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Central Intelligence
Agoicy
WashingiDTi,
D,C, 20505
5 July 2001
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Reference: F-2001-01033
your 24 April 2001 Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request for records on
Project Chatter,
This document, "Joint Hearing Before the Select Committee on Intelligence and the Subcommittee on Health and Scientific Research of the Committee on Human Resources US Senate," totals 171 pages. However, because fees would be minimal, and as an act of administrative discretion, we have determined that no fees will be charged for this request.
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CONTENTS
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tulh p c dftntU rri?u'priilnc i'r'*i>*'<:iU f"r pxinri* friTiMx," ninircn-'il K jiKi* juv'-pn' Tii*'T'nticri fiii'l HiiiUii! Ip'^rini: n*i"Jnfi'd niUi vjiri^n^* rPM;irili nr-Ocrt*. niid a pn'i'iirih imT'r<t-rr nmlrihiHi'in liv riA f" :* vriv/iTp Jn-rirnth-n. H<wpipr. thp T>ftn't|:il tyi"-'> nf jiiivir|i"> iin liidi'i^ hr\y*\ f.ir rhi' nioct \^!\t\. PiUiPt I-ppii ouIliii'Hl fn oioup i'Sl-'Mf IT fiHTnTly d'Mrilpd in whnt \v:is nrpvinii'-ly A\nilriMp t" f^lA in HiP wfly i'f diN'imiPninfion nnd wu^ Miii[dird h\ TIA fi. Spii,itr iTive-iticnlorn.
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tliniUKh arrUDC^mf^m - xvjtii HpeclilIsi* in unr\-r>ities, jiharmarnMiial Jmujsps, hosjiliijlv ^rnif wrifl fpcli'ral InMJtut|i>riv ;inil prhnle rf^p;irrji urFnin2:irji>i)-> |ip. T. U And th^ tun rhai \Ut T^bnU".i} SiTvl''*' I>ivisiciii iif c'lA h:ii) irjltiLj(i-d ]+l ^utiproirt-Ts rflatfd to tb^ control
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liuNifin iH'iinviiir iK'lxvt^n 1!i'>:i-1!K(^t t| in i. The releviinf i^^-rinn nf a ]!rtT lns|HH'(.ir <;*'1i>t!i1 rfi-'^rf tm III*- Te'lmifal S^rrIce l>ivi^ion v.a'-^ also imult nvAlluii|f> I" rlje rjjifp.li r<oiniiittp- stnff. TJ*ai report disi u<^se>
for buiiian s:^'>^?(mH]r btm) ui^nrllirHln^ ii>eMjiid> of omupjiiuiintit'n (]i. 2*^1 dis' Tt'Oiiirij: uud di>aliljiit' iiiHleh-iK vbkli can be roT^rtly adiuLtii'^fer^ r]it ^i]-2(fJj ; Miidif^ r>ii ijini:ii jun-^' atJn us ajiiillwl Ik ci'Vprt opt>rFjkPf'ifir fuuiTiu^ iiipi]i:iiii>nis fnr r^cjinli i*rr'riii*d "ixihidt' of ition* [p. 0:^1 CIA fli|i^ :K^1'L''>:a. -2itr,\ resj-nn-h iK'iu;: dniif npi ^K'^ ikrjiH-koiiI j mulerJll. Alitiljr>l
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iirnjt^t and. viecondlT. a MTid insTiiuii>'n<i veiw \'Ti'uUi-.\ivi.\ hi llif MKl arr Don* In pi>^<-Lldy lUJiT^^jr^r cDiiirH-niinn U\ CJA in n privut^ iiisiltiilion. pn4>vi|i>n if ihi' nniiit^ of iK'i rii)iif;i>\t>niiiieiir rt>s4*arrli4Tv and aRsLsraniij who ar** ldcniErip>l in tlip m-ntprfil uiuitTJjl dnnlini: nith Hip 14U KUbproJects^ TbDRines uf >i) in>\\t\n\*'Hti wljprv wurk uas dune nr witJi nljirh fbes i*>ide ware
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renpan'b foundations or rhpniij-nl jt pbEinnnf^fiitk-al iiUiiwnif*^ Jiinl lb*- ttk^. 12 bn^plInN it cWnU-^ In addiiiini (n thi^-i*' nss-K'lnrM wirh uni^ersif it-sin and 3 iienul innlliulloup. Wbile tbe IdpniiTip^ of f^fiijie cr tljp<^p i^i'i'lt- and ln<t1ii]l]ou<: wnrf knimn prprlouslj. tbe diM'iner.T i-f the new id^nTitit^J ftibN liniir kninile'lcp **t MKILTKA. follow* Tli*- fiu'i> ns tliev i*r(aii to lb** ii*ssiNf imi'roinT <iniributlon are ai Oiip pri>ji-i-t involves a rrtntriUiiiiiin of |.'17-\fMio lo n Intildiuc fund nf a prlraie uuHliriir insliiutiiin. Tbf fiirr Ihnr a (-onrrlbiirinn vu^ mudf wa? prerlously knmvn: Indif^ il wn^ mfuMi^ned in a l!*ri7 hisii^tiir Gentral fepoM on tbe Terbnii-fll Svnir^ Phi'iion nf CJA. |frtinpm iiortlfns of which had l*en reviewed hT ibe Chnnh Cfinimitiif vtnft. The newly diw*vered ttiBterUl. boweT^r. nnikt"i it clenr ThJir tlil* eonlrJhntloii was niBdi- thriHieJi ftn Iniermediarv. which miidr U Bp|e.Tr to lie a prlvnie dcnniiiiji. A* a private rtonaeion, ibe eontributlon waK fhen mnirhed ly ft^prul fmul^. The Instilutioii w* not mode aware of Ibe conrurriKl frn- siAiTCf of Ibe riH. ThU jirojwl was ipiirxved by Ibe then IX'J, and Counsel wbo In by (~IA'k top manuc*'in*"nt ni the time, including rbe then General wnic nn nplniim supporting tbe lett-ililj of the rontributiin. tht Tbi' HH^iitlr dif*nn"rHl d<'cnmen(s ri\e\'i prenter In^ifbl Into tbe eoiie of nnuitfint dnic l*tinc Imt enntrHmle Utile ninre tbnn lli:it. We now have colcarrlwJ on hJl>rn(inc Inf^rniati'in tbnt oonie of rbp iinwining rtmc teHtinc wa^ Identified that in iBrtfelion-p- in Sun Kninris.-.. nnd New York *"il}, and we bnve oj^ki*I lo the preTiou^ly Ihrr.- individiiJils wt-rp involved in tbi* nndeptakinir a* took place re]-<>riPil onp |fr*on. MV rIh. know nnw tbnt mi.hh' nnwittinp t^tiur on criniinn! sesnol p^Tebopnilis confined ot a Sfnl^ boKplial and thai, addihonalwiib rei-enrch to Iv. n-'inb Hii^ ib-nf nn ji kno. k-ont i-r "K" dmc In imrallel ilf\i"l'ii iJiiin kiUer*^ for roncer pntirni-. ThiM'. rhen nrt- Ihi- prinriiKil fitidinc- IdeHllfitHl lo rtnle in our review of tbe recMM-reil inntPrinl. A* noipil wirlipr. wp l^lifve Ibi' detnil on Ihp IdenUtieP of rispnnlier'' and InMitnllput tnvolvwl in riA"" [Nnnop^bip nf dmiT'^ and leri.nMderable probbJivif.r:il ni'Klifl*-ntlnn Ik a new eleniPiit nnd nnp wIiIpIi iw.tfe^ n nol nware of A^euej b>jn. M*^t of the |ie*tple and in*(nniii<^n* imcdved nrp in^lituTi^io -.lrf.iiv<r<lilp W'r Kbciuhl r^rtninb Bs^unn" thnt lb- rfspiifber'- and in tbe ^^Jii'h oonperrHe^l ivltb TIA nn h wlUiMi: bii'>i> nrtM In pxl fnith and purpoMbobpf ibar tbPT ^vpre nidinc their cnv#Ttnnent in n WSiinnite nnd proi-r rf*':inlH'rs nnd InHitution^ to 1 |Hji,vt' wi- 111! Iinve a nu'nil oMii::Uinn iip tlie-^j^.ilP<T them from an> unjust ifl('*l enilMrri^^-mp^ir or dnnuiup t^ rbeir repufntions whirh ri'vpli^ii.iri of ib-'ir Idmiilip^ nntbt l-rin^ In nddiliun, I have a lepnl obli-iii-m midiT Ihp Vrivncv Art n*>t !< pnbli' ly diM-bi-r tbr names of the Individii:il re^:irt;..-rv wlOiout their eon^^ent. Thi^ U e^jiepinlly tnie. of ooiir*., for
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TXSTIMONY OF ADM, STANSFIELD TUllNEH. DIRECTOK OF CENTRAL IMTEILIGENCE, ACCOMPANIED BY FRAMK LAUBINGER. OmCE OP TECHinCAL SERVICES: AI BEODY. OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL: ERNEST HAYERFIELD. OFFICE OF GENERAL COUNSEL AND GEORGE L, CARY, LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
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t]w ]('Piiftrk^ Ifxinv its all tlmt tln^ ('vc^nfc nlifHii wlicl wt niv Wi-f to tulk are 12- fo24-ypAi>ol(l. Tfn'v in t|rm!iy ivpn'si-jii tlir^rnrrml nf^tivilir-H o;;_m>lj^i<^nf ilip rontm] JnU-ni;^>in-t- Al^'>i '-vVkh-Ai wr nrr JhK' to <1o i> tn '/ivc you 71 fHo iiiformjition thnt \V4 noxv Jiavr npitl wliirji wo Hi'l ijoi ]irpvioii-lv liavo oi> n -nlii**.-! knnwii
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took iilarp JTi minute n^o. niih tlio fonnirrrpifr of |}ir then nirmorof rrnfinl TnlpHi?rnn^r n'lil nmlPT Jhr =nprrvi*:ion nf tli Dip^-.-Por of tlu^ Offof Trrluural SfTVL-e-H tli:it snpfTu^orl Projiif MKl'LTIfA.
=priiM. firvf 1^,-inisr of tln' ilo^ijiiriion 107:!. rj^ di'tr^ilrd hy Sc-n:ifor K-'pnioHv n
of
ninti-rinl
peoplo wa?: also fiiun-sr iH'ruuM- most nf tl.r \\1i'.1iikI Uri* inv<ilM-i| ill yx.:', \n Un'A in l^i^ iii-livity liu-i rrriMul fnini tlir A;;*'n<'y. 1 wnnl] fijiil.ci a<lil lljut 1 Oiiiik tlip jn.iH-riMl was si>nrw' in ]Kirt U-rMM-c it vii-. ilic jinirli.-r al lljal linn' not t< kw'}' d^'laili'd
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tlir ajjeiii'v f:ir)i-il lo
s<^:iTile^.
nrjiover the^e paiiirular dorntoenls in 107-1. in thi' pivfc'-es* *f alirin|itinj; to diMrov ihoni. 1\ piniilarly fnilod III lo-aTe thi-m in n*7". in rr-.pmi'H" in tlu' (^loirth romniiTlr<- hrannp^. I am iriM>nalK |HT^nadel il^if their is no evidonrr of ny attempt fo eo]i,-i-:it (liis oniti't ImI dllliiij; llie r;rliiT poar-!ies. Mojvovcr. a& we will iH-iiij-s as Mc pnh'04'd, 1 do not iH'lieve the notorial itself is such that
In snn^
MORI DocID:
163357
10
iliin-
vvoulflKn ninlivf'on
h't
ii>o
CIA
in
-jil,lif>li]
llus.hannf;
Irvafrd mnlcrial. It i- iiiii>nrtnni li iTiimuilM^r \vli:ii | Imvi' jiie:( iK>U"ii, ihut tlipsp Mdfrs Hi;rf xverr ^lisi'iivort^'J WH- tin;iTifi- folfJrr^. Tin- luilk of tlir- mn'rrinl in Hu'Tm r-otisi-^l- uf fi|ipr(iv!l'^ fur thi- n*lv:in''i' nf f^lu*l^. vonrl^rr*.. and jirrijiirjliij;:- and >^\ti-h. lun-r ui \\]\\ih t^u Mnt vt'vy inffirninhvf nc to
xWi^i
tin- n:tiin' <if llic ni'l ivilir>* tlj^il l!iry
t'l-t
Nr\(,
wiovr U'
Ih'^ iiJtMn"
nf
riT^^nth
won*
Ri)>]ort
iii^r,
C)cr!>ioiiiil
proj-
Jjnwrvrr. tl)f' rf'r'\vr<'i? iiiiilfrjfil d'KS nof iiiiliuif ovmhII Pt!ni< rPiv>Hs nr other ilnniJiKTits ri'ljuiiii; fit ofwtaliriij;^ coij^iiJi^tnTioj*-, fr to tin- piopri'^?: on v:ii um> Mil*i>Jnioi't^. tlii'Uj:li sinin- ilHUnnnoTi of tin* nMivitir* rOTitfjnflr*'
In
ci-jjrinl.
plipli^-l t]^H^';.l|>[|^!^
fn*jM niii*'tf>tiTf:i\
thrcf rnti-^rfirir- of proji^rt=, FirM. tlirn- nrc 140 y}K\ J^TIiA pnltpiojins. jjjjtnv of \v)i^'|i ApiH'nr (o Ijnv** some oonTic"* \U'\i \\t\\\ ivMiUiJi ititii lii'li:i\ ioriil niodijiriiiion. drufr inMnii'-itioii rtkI
nr*' intii:ld>
Tlirrc
/idiMinisfMJnj,' drtii:- ^iir-rcptiiiorisly, A'rinid, tJu-ir nrr two *H\<- of ini^'rHsHicoiipniirrs/hirludin;: n\\d\\ report^ nrjil firmn-'isil fitntciruiH>. fmrji inti'rmfdinry fimdinjr inMinin^ms ij*vd to ''c>nri';il s|>onsoT>ljJj of vmioii^i rosi^arrh projrrts,
frytlriiT, "r
MKTJ.THA
riA
Fiiijilly, {]u'u-
niv
:v.i
jidilitionnl siiKpfojpctv
nnd
loxijis. oi'jijjy I'loM'Jy n-l^ti'd ointtrr. 1\ * Iinvr fitti^nipfi'd to pionjv tlio nrtivilio^i rovorod bv the ^uhproji'i'is hihi i-niri;**ri,.K ijndrr do^rriptiv*' h'-ndliip^. In hrond oittHne. at li-ii'^f. thi,-^ pn-M^T^ts ihr ^oidi'tifF: of thop^ filp^. The followinp 15 ratr^'uiir-i ,ir'<. tirfr ni;r- Ur dn idrd tliP--^ JIUO.
H^
hmr
of Iwliiiviornl dniir^ nod nlrohol, ^A itliTfi lilt-, thrn :ir(^ 17 propd> proKulHy not involving hninan tostinff, Tli'ir nrr 14 ^nlipnijint^ di'tiniti-h hivoUini: IrMinc on hninnn v'^liinh'f'rs. Tlnrc" ,'(n' i:'p"h;iT>iiiT*ji pmhnhlv iiK'hjdiiL2-t<-*:tson hiiiuao
i^ii^si, r*'<ir:irrli itihi iljc ifl"rrf>.
S*i'oiMh llirir i- r<"^-irrh oo hypiiosi- oiidil ^nhj^rojM (Ml. Tomlviiij: hy]iMi-i- :iii<1 dintr-: in I'OiuhiTintiiin.
Tliii'"!. tlirn-
-.
inrhidin;:
r-r
of choniif^aK
f<'jrMi,
111
four ^^nhiMoj'**'* on
iiiii^,
l]ir ji^^imtIs
of
ii^fnl
dii*;;'
I'ovcit ojiorni
for
i)i-l:in>'r, \]u-
*mn
[>ti(ion^ ih'livoiy
of
nine proji^'U
rl/.niL'*-
lio
stodifs of
human
hohnvior, sloop
Hod
J^'liavioiid
ilinin^r
psvrhnthcrnpv.
Sixth, f lirii" ni>" proicits *iti liht:iry yraii'hr- at*!-? at(rnilnnt= at ppmiTvn- uui] infornftt jon:d r'lnfrrrrjri--- on hi'l>nviori)l nio(lTfifntioni:. SiAijiiii, th*"Tv an' 'i^ pr<j*i'ts nu nioti* atioii;iI sUidii'S. studies of d(fi"i(*t-;, sft'*:*TiH'n('^ of U'liiiviiif and trnininn' tfvhniqiros, KiirhUi-lhi'rr nn- Ihn'i- ^nh|H"ir(t^ oo |folyi:ranh rrsonrfh. Nifrtli. thor<' t\v<- thvrr ^irh|)roKr't- nu funding' iiiorhnni'^nis for K r J/ri; A\ ('xti'mal i^s*'!ir*h lul hit '\c$.
U
rewBiHi on driips. (oxins, rad Tenlli tlirre are fix siil.pmjrrls on of rx-.tir pa.hop.ns iid the bioIoeicls ill hunm.. tis....'. i>r..vMon drlivrry systems^ rapaftlitv to inoorporat.. ll.ein in .-ff.-.tivr nmture s.ibj.i-ojiots on aclivities whose Elcven'il) ihrro are thm-
'"^;:mrniI^'r";llT-J-'^
^
t>-
on
nl
Fort
St^h
IW lirli.
outlined in lio.>k
of the
3fi!>.
tl,r
Army
..olopual np.n.s
Tlmteenlh. tl.Av are Mnpl.- M.b|.ro,..rl. ,n ^"''''.^"^jVn.lirof f..r offensive "^ Of el.<-tro>l.o<k. harassment techniqnes "'>f'/ I sprays and aero^ls. and four extrasensory perception. pa prt.i>ello,I
of the 7'"P;.*>''^ Kourternth. on. oi two M.hproi.cls . eaH, """""'s: enerp> stor^ pronp.np rescar< h : controllinp the artn.t.e. of stimulus and rwponse in ap. nn.l transfer in orpaiiir systems; an.l
^f
IMirih^iT are three snl.projects rBiirelejl Mot^JT^^^otV lal-or.tory druc was a.me on them havinp to d- .th 'f^.^'Y' F^^ research on biolopically active searoli on brain foncussioii. and
"Fm.l]?v.
disrnvered material add= a.hlre" how mnch this newly to tW Chnreh to what lias previously Wen reported '^'^-fh "f Tl'*- >"swer s basi^ Senator Kenne.lv's SulH.mnnit.ee on Health. to of activities 'n^\"ded in calh- addition.! detail. The prii.cipnl tyi^-s part been oV*''"^<r '.','" thrs.. <l.-uments li.ve for the n.o^t !>' " extent penerally d-s-riW.! in what xvas I"^V,">f J'"'''!^'^ to the t", the CIA way of documrntntion and whiHi was j'upplied by Scnnto invest ipa tors. , ^j loftrt i .x. records for the T>enod of 1960 financial dishnrsement For example, sui.projrrls had b<:f" to m.i for 76 of these 14!> '^"^t^^^> ,!jf
""now!
let
mc
Office of
SSimiMco
the 1?M Inspector General made arailable to both the f]!""'-'' ^^'"";''7 in electroshock and harass^ and the Sul^ommittee on Health mentions unwitt.np 1 .S. nt.zcn.. me.it subslanccs. covert testiup on arranpcments with for new materials throuph ^^^'l''^'; 'S^^^^^'"^? the fact that the Technical .^'V? "" J and nniversities. and human B.ibprojects related to the control of had initiated CIA
Finance
at nvesti^raton..
CIA and
xver^
made
available to the
Church
For example,
MKI-LTRA
tWarch
''^
U4
'^FoSWance
re.mrt was that report
and d.sahl.nc ma^ orthodox mctho.^ of communication, discred.tinp niap.c.ans arts can 1- covertlv adniinistei-ed. studies on y'riS which other similar topics. n anplicil to covert r,-ratim,-. and Th- mo,t siLM.ifi.ant ue^v da., that has bcou '^'^"^"irJ^."^'?'?institnlions who participated the nam^ of rps.-arri,er.. and
also, the relevant section of a IP." I"^?It'*^tS"and and made availnhlr 1o the Church committee staff, """ fll^ ?'"' discusses the techniq.ies for human
^^^'
12
hy
iUi-
i'l.\
I**
]7T}\iif'-
HE*;NMiiioM.
^Vr
liiil
iiir'
ititn
ni
thr pop<<sIJjoBo
wlm
niiU
:iiy
]iii'iiiit[(-il
in thi' ii'ifni'UMl
ii<'!ilni;:
with
140
ulij'li
llu'-i'
projj.
wen-
uJlilmri^iJ.
of
>'>nj''
of
tlifs**
knoun
'i'lii'
|>U'vJ"u>h.
fnrf.
fJir tii^i'ijvri v
of
wfw
our
In
'^ojitni-iifioii
II-
i-onniKnti'm of
'J'jn-
>;:17ri."WJn
Jiiir
fNtnl
ii>ji
of
ii
pri\:Mf
iih-iltriil
iTi-Mtnrioii.
(ii'Ticrul
nil 'in
ill
M/(Mnr>lH'll
ihi'
I'TtT
tl,.'
|ii'|H-r"ioi
tlic 'IVilniii'nl
Srrvico
sii|*iTvis.'il
Mliri/n;A. ami
CJniMh
irvirvii'ii
h\
}]\f
lir
n\\\]\
iWnwM-A
W.I- limit'
*-lenr fli:U
it
t]i}<
t-ittttit\njt\'.n
jn'jii- ii. tn'
;i
f)iroM_'li
nji-
the poMtrilnjf ioij w;i- tluii iM:Mrlu-il liv Fi"l<';H fuiuK, TJii- in^titiiiion wji> not niridi' jn\!in- fil l)tr tnrc nv of lUv ;rifr. pirijcit wflc fipprovrfl 1^' iIji- iIm"]] ])ii'ihu rf ('-nil';il Iiili-ll Jtr*'!**^*' nrifl roiH^Mnvd jri ly
r'*
)>Tivjni' ijMT];iMi*n,
A-
Jvjjf^ iJoTj^rion.
TM^
riA>
info
toji hi:oi:iL'^iiiiii
Ojrfninji
'J ill'
iiirlmini:: \Utlfi'
thon
<irin'r:\l
Conn^K-K
who wi^fo nn
Miji["Hnii:
ii'i'.jitIv
K-L':iliy tf flic
roTitnhutiofi.
kXtu-s Ic^lilii;,
ili-.'*iviTi"(l
hnf rotiirih^iti' lull*' jiMjfi* th:ni rli;n. AA'*' now {loh.ivr ''ormliorntin:: infornintfon thnt Mniir of ij]i- iinwiKin^' ^hw^ iv^Mu^ \\n> rorrinl mit in T^-}iut is known
in
Tfi.'
of fho
inH'Mit:*!)'!' tnnli(''ii\\
ji-
w:ifc^
hon-^- in Sun
ih^Tt
Fr-rin^'i^i-o
mid
in
N**w
\*n-U
uiu]
wi-
)i,'jvr
ifli^tjlifiid
vol\rJ in
thi'- iiTi-Ioi'liikiii;:.
wlim-Jit
^r
or*lv <inr pi'T'Min. AVi' irNn kiiow nou thill Mnir nn^vittinc 'pm inp look pTn-^o on rriniiii:l >-\n;t! p-y.'liop;itli- ronfin.'il nt n Stjitt' lion^piinh nnd tlinf n<Mition:i)l> n'Miii.h wiis iJmH' ou n kno.'kou( or tlru;: in pjirnUol witli
to /h^vfjoji p;iinknh'r> for r;in''Oi' pnfirnt". 'riir-r. tliiMi. nii^ thr piiii.ipal fiiiilinff^ iilontifiril In thU^ in our rrvn-\v of fill- rci'ovi-n-il niiti'i iiil. A*; noTii( cmlior, \\<- ItrYH-w tUc dofjiil tm tho idrntin^'s of re,<f?n-IiT- nml inslimrion^ involvi'd lu TT ^ s|Hin<ui^ln|. of Avw'j mnl i*fi;n ionil nuwlifii'iition ii^-Ji-nrrh is now ft oh-ninK nrid oiio vhh-li pm'- ^i coii-;ifhH|';j;,hp proMom. Mo-f of tlir pooph' Nud in-tihiiJoMv jmolvrd i'ri' nol nwrnr* of CIA ^|>nn-oi>hin. slumld j'orininlv n^-inm" tli;i1 ihi- v<'>-**nr*"hvrs :ind instilntiuns wiiirli '-onpi'iiiri'd witli <'I A on :i witliii*; lui'^i- nrtod in injod fnitli nnd in fljp InOi^f tli^T thfv wprr Jiidhi;: lln^ir novinoncnl in n h'iritiTiinJr niid proj*r |i>n']KW|H,
n'H':M>')i
Wr
lirli.vf
tlijit
<
nil lifivc
niid
insiimhon- to ptotm
MORI DocID:
163357
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nr ilamn"!' to
tlji^ir
of
tlioir rlcntitif-^
thi^
iukUt
Pnvjicy
ArV
no(
I*)
nnim- of
'Jlii-
i*i
e<|M**-iallv Ir^n'.
rt'^^'ftn-nors
and
instilu-
lijiwittiri^' jiHili''i|Knn- in
TIA
sj^nicoretl ftrtivitin=.
Mi>
hol]j
till'
CliniTfiijiTi, 1 .^<il:uul\ ^fi-o^uv/A> (lu- ri-ilit aiul tli^' Si'iiiii-' Srlfc'i'i Coinniiiti'f' mi IntclHprncc mul tlir
SihiiU' S)ilK-oiT)niitt^i* nil Hnilrli jithI S.-i'nlifi<' licsi'nrrh 1o inveptipatp Mm- rirrujn-rrnirr- of tlii'H- nrJivitii--^ in wlmlfvcr dolnil ymi oonsidei' of tlip doniniontam'"-('.->tiT\\ I mil pv'ivi.liii;: yonr rinjuniiin* \vii!i jill tlii lioji. ini'luilin;: oil of iln^ nnnvs. un n cht^^\i\v{\ l>n*-is. T liopt^ ihnt will fn< ilitatr vonr invfti;:fttioTi whili^siill proiirtin;: tlip irjdividiials
I^'i
im
MKIXTKA
('lA
i^
tvent^ arr 12 to 2i
vrHv^ in
r-idirr
flik
pa-K and
nf^sinc
yon
tli-it
in
no wny enpaped
in
Tuntioi,
\\f HTv mnkinjf nvnilal-k' if. IIjc Atlornoy Gmoral ivhatever Miijii'iijils Iio nsav il**oin n*<-<'^>:iry to niiv invostipntion^i fhnt ho may
wiftihcornn-ittiiii;1*'-tin;.'of (Iriiff^todny. Finnllv. I am working r]*>-*-}y wjUj lUf Attornry fionpr:*! on tbis
^lirl toinidirlnki-.
Brvond
woikin;rwi(h
1}io
Attorney
evidence-
(ieni'nil In (Irtrnnhu^Vlirllicr
ff>
\>
pi^a^^tirnM*'
fiom
tins
n*w
niny hnvc bcrn administnvil ninvittiiifrly. No ^nc It nnnH^- ?nr pnrt of tlirsr rerord^. IVe have \\n\ iili-nTifii'd ilir indivithinl- lo wlioni dm;:- werr ndministpred, btit wr uif tiyinjr now to ih"t*'riiiino if tlini- an* ndrqnnte rlues to lead to
hlrntifv iinv of \\w
to
pnwn^
whom dm^-
<c-
idcniirnntion. nnd if ^o }io\v l>psi lo ^-o nlvonl fnlfillinj: tlie Goveinihrnr"* ro^jjon-iliilili''^ iti l}ii<. iiiiiniT. >It. ri)oinnmi. ft= we pirwH'd wiili tlint pi-orrs^ of ftttemptinp to iil<nfifv thi' inrlividirjil- nnil tlien ilHt^rmininp whnt is onr proi-^r rp-[.oh-^iMlity to thi'in. 1 \\\]] krvp Ik.iIi of thes^^ rnrnniitteop fully adflirir
vi-i'il. 1
fliJinkyniKtii".
SrniUor
spiril
Imh
vi:,
Yonr
announee to tlir roiiiiniHt'*^ \hn\ in onh-r lo pivi^ every menilK^r an opportunity to pnrTiripatf in tliis Iiejirinp, tJml we ^wmld set a time limit of 10 minutes
of roo)H*riitinii
inui-h nppn'^inti-d. 1
would
like to
Senator, Aihninil Turner. |ileas( ^ive this eonntiitiee tlje poiie^is of MKT'L TKA- Wlio or what roniinittoe or ronuni-'ion or ap^^ncY was i-esponsi|ier
hle
it
fnp-
dii^iiniioT
?
up
thi< pi'nndio<e
i> tin- r!lif)mile
nnd
or
sinister profert,
and why
vva?
nern-^-in-y
AV)i:*t
in^tificiifion
for
*=nrli n
pmjert
y\n- tlir^ Vi-esident of IIm- Tnili-il Srnte- nwnre of tlii-? Ailniiral TnivK!?. Mr. Cliiiiiinun, 1 nni sn\n*z to a^k Mr, Bividy OTI v\i:ht, wlio \^ n lon^-tiim- menil>i'r of tin- ("*1A to addi-es*^ thnt in mori- ilehnl, I IwlieM' evervthinj thni wr knn*\ nltont the cf-iie>i= wn
nuA
mv
Omnh
i-iHiimiltei-
nnd
is
i-onliiined in tliat
mn-
lerinl Bii'^ienlly- it was n riA-inifiatei! proin't. It stnrted out of a eoiieern of onr J>pinir taken ndviintaci' of hy otlier powers who wonld n-e dni^^ a:.':nnsl onr per-nmnd. ;ni*l it wa- :i|>nn)veil in tlie Affenrv. T have asked the question von inst asked nir, nnd have been rt^^sured that there is no ovidi'iire within tlie AL'i'ni-y of iin\ invtOvenient at hicher
erlielnns.
the Wliite Ilon-ir. for TnctnTec\ or s|x>eifie approval. That does not sa^' there wnF^not.hnt we have no surJi evidence.
4"K
14
Mr.
I4r**cly,
tlicT, [jlf'n^c?
y\v. }U\i*t*\.
Mr,
I'lciirniun,
wii<'I
niM
to that,
it
c
Ji
:<l
f*r
inn'. Il
ii
|irtijri1.
:iT)il
u<
vn^
|ii'oji ii
(lr>i*:pircl
in nffeiiipt to lounlornrl
what
tlicr tlifiiiplu to
1m^
HiirMt ly our rrniuii'.* of o^inij (lii*;:* :i^Mij*t n*, Mo.-^t of wWai iIm' wr kno\\ ^hoNt it i= in iIk^ SoTinH' Cliimli i-ohijiiitipc ivj>ort. Si'ir:iti>r fxjji V*-. AVtTi' lln' in^lliori/nl iMi-iulN'r'' of t]tv ("oii^rre^s ]h:iil( :\\:inMtf tiit^ [Jroji-rt |}iioii<;li ihr hud^iinry |jrfK'<'sji?
u -ri
liiij-
S'ii:iioi'
n\\-.\y
Ixorvi:,
'J*i
Arr yon
'iii;:pi'-tiTitr tJint
it
from
I*M^Ml^ll1 of llir
riitril
St nit-?
Aihiiitiil
<li-tii 1'
*Hii' \v;i\
No. sij-. AVr an* ajHy finyirii: iliiit wi' Imw no pvitl*f oilnr ns fo wlirtlii-r ilir ( '"ii':ri'7'S i^ji* infontipd
pati'if)c"d
of 1!m^ p:nli<ijl:ii |iro7('rt, TImto ar** iir rPconKlo jinlifnti'. Sru.iTor Ini-i VK. Adiiiira) TnTTiri\ (ijv Vdii |H*r**onHllv
licrujil
bv
riowlv *!i'>ro\*n''l inf<"nNjiTinn intijiNoi:ill\ kr|ii nv^Eiv from t Ik- Sriial*>of iIm- Vnilnl Sinl*'?^? A*liiiirji( T\ i:\Kr. 1 Ijiiv*- iir wnv fo provr tlmL Pir. Thnt it
inM">f
i*;:ii icj;i
iUni
tlii*
whs not
my
con-
viii jrni
from
('viTyllii)i;:
1 :,
1 liiivi- si-i-n
of
it.
SotjrtTor !\ii<
Now.
tlirit
thrso dorinikonts
Marrli of tlii- vt'nr, nuA \*i\\ wrrr notifipd jri .hil\ itf ])i\^ V'viT. nr -liiiu* nf rlii"- yrnr, mid tlu' f-'irnniitH'o wa*; iiotitiiil in -liil\ Can yon f<'ll ii- wh\ iIk* l>in'ifor of Ccolral Tntrllic'noo wii- hoiifiitl itt*iuxh'- nfhT il*^ initnil (li>i-o\i'iy. wliy tln' dolay? Ailruir;*' Ti jjnm:, Yi-s. sir. AM fhi- stnrtr*! witli n^viTiil Fn'fdnin of liifoT million Art rr*|nrvr^, nn<J Mr. T-!inlinpi'T on my ]rU wns tlio in*Iis i<lii;il V lio to<ili if upon liiin^Of to pni'-'iie tli'^^c rf'<|iir<t= with preat ilili;rrTi<v, ritni tjni pi'iinis'-ion to jfo to tlit- Itrtii^'il lIi'<-or<K P^ntpr. and tlirTi n*ruir tin- (h't'if^ion I'l h>t>k not only nndi^r what wonld 1* thr ?xpnii'.T -nhjcrt fili>. Imf throN*;!) ovny filr ith whii}i tlip hraiirli that. ion'lih'i''l tills typ4- of artivity ha*l nnv roiTOfival'l*- ronn<*^tioTn Vi'iy hiTr in ^Inrrli. ]- t|iscovrre<l ihc**^ M'vi^n l>oxr>. Hi- arranjrrd to liav*" i]\i-\\\ sli!]*[u'(l from tho Itftiri'il I^mthiK Cantor to A\'ashinffWrit' iuihjilK ilir-i-oHTi^*}
.
'-\
(on.
nirly Ajril, llr ailvin-d his n]|n]iri:il(' ?ini*rrior-, who askod him liow lonir hr tlifni^^lkt it wonld t;ikr }iim to ifo i!irfin;;h tlir**^ and sitoph thrni a]>pE'opriote!v, clear ihi'ni for Krii'itinji of Inforinjition Ai't n*lrn<-r. Thvrv n\*\ wc nriijiinilly iM iiintitHh .VKhj pn^ro^; hf^ro. now think
til I'Hi
]nioli|njin*'i>.
Thev
arriv<'il in
Wr
tlnil
wa- un
it
onili'iv>tipniilion. anil
it
He
ilavs or into th.' iiiiddk- of Slay to do tli;ir. Ih" wa-' toht in prfh**i'<K and a^ In* did ^o \]wrv wa- iiothinp ini'-ow-ird ill thv Ih'^nnnin;: of tlir-f* 14!* raM*-; tliat fl]*^K*nri"i| pnrtiriip>tiriiali'd
t:ik'
-iTi
wcinM
^Umi
larly startliri:r 'r partimiarly aildiltvi* to tin- kiiowlrdiji* that had alrraily hrrji ;:i\rn to tin- (^Inuih i-ominitn-f, ^<nn^' ilotaiK. hnt ho major rrM'hil io]i<^. Uv and lii- n^Mriatf- ]>i'f"'i*'th'd with ddilK*ratcpio>>Jmt not a prpat SinM' of iiiiff^nrv. 1*hi*rr wrrt* offn-r intt'rfrrin"- n<'liviiii'- that rnmo and di'Jiiandi-d lii^ tinu' ;i1^o. 1h- \va> not a Mr to |Mit liHi }H'r<-pn1 i^f hir: tiriir- on il, anil tla-ri' did nit a[>piMr to hr i^an^r fui.'H'at ni>Ii hrrr. wi^rr hvin;; t< 1m' iv*jifm^*\*' to t\\r Kri'i'ihun of Information Act roijni'-^l wUImji thi- limil:^ ui uwy inanjMnM'i and onr priorities.
ii
Wr
15
In
1i^
i-.ir\y
June, honi'ici
ili:t1rlv
]ii-
ih^.rtyfV'-i]
twn
lU
lU-
1o
llir f ijiiilJTi;:
>iiZ>^t]kriT jjil
l)ii-
rn-^t
if
iriilt/A-il
111'
\m
jii'i
itiNi
1
111'
Ii.-i'l
lu-w iiifornutlioM,
iiHti)i>Ii:iti']v it'jkfirti'il
Jii<- I'l
nof jfv tin* Ijiuyi'i*' of (hi' pHii' iij^l ] ll'r>l<*!il Ijf I liffUniMl fiJII A'l lVijni'*l(T lllJit Wr would IjiUT MlK^tHinr:ril ni'x^ ]ii:ili-riu1 ainl iIihII i( wriuhl 1h- foilhi-oniin;: n^ ntpidly Bs po**jlilt'. jirul lli<^ Hco]|i| \\i\- lo iliiti 11 j(*rjnOKni(tiiii u|i tin* chain f Inn in"lir;ii*iMn*' Iji'lJrf iJm! wc .Klioirli? n'ltlf v flip Sojr;ilv Srli'cf Com'l\\it
jiiri^
n'H"
wri'- ici
of
of
f li*'
rljiivarU'iflt Ipast
of Un'M' U\fi
lii
Hrtinioit'*.
l-'llli
of Jinn',
had
f^'lii'liin
Sium- ijUr-iioTi wat}iri)ML'li lOi <>f llii-, **n ijijit wJuMi w<> notify tin- y^-uati- S**lf*<'t CfJJiimiticr wo df^ noi notify fiftlf of tIh' iiij|w>Tiiint n'lpvotioo* nn*l not thf*
jil"mT
oHi'i' hiilf^ Ti'"
lini^on ofli'i" anil ftt fhr]\ n>k*'il *if Jnin: Jljivr you ponr
in nnv wav to l-o nil ;uiy t^ipii'. ffi\r tlw .T]ii'r:iniih'coii jHjy tojMf' of I win;: I'ecalritrant. rrJnriniiL or li-ivjii;: lo 1i:jm' yon t\n\ii tliijifr> oiil of itii', nnd inv suh(jnliiiJiTi's. tnn^li tn jijy iilcu-'nTf, had t^a^h A>k''d. Jinvc von i^collv pono
lii^T
tliin;:
wjuii.
Mr>
("IiuiTJnjU).
i*-
flirniiirli ifii-r
s.(*iHi
jiiipe^ rnon*-}!
to
know
?
t}iit
we nre
not
^inf
to
nnr<nrr
a l>n]ijh"ih*'ll
dowji at tfn'Imflom
fln' J^\U.
jilrtnil
nnTiliril ir)c afr**?' lis ri'virw of it 1 of it. 1 lf;.Mn riM'lin;: into ii. ] n^kod fhr Mime iJr-ohin;; qne>tion iliriTily. 1 iln-n notified -nfirrioi-, ninl on (In- l'(li dolivered
kmw
tin- pror(>x i^nrltod niv do]nity. on thf 7t1j ^f -Inly, whicli i* tltp firit
He
my
to yon jMV
aii'
[.fti-r lotrinir
work;nl^ m:iiiy
Irllin;:
iieopir,
von know lli;it we had tin-., and wp Jinvp Iw^n many honi- sini-o thf-n, to sure thnt what wc
>ou today
1
dot''-
jn<'hjili^
!jk<'
all
for lii?: ililiL'-'TM-i' and i-XiH^niM", !"til wn^ Thi' diliL^i-nic the n-Milt of the Freediiii of lnf-.nnritii>Ti \*-t or foirld tlii^ dili;r<'n<'e hiivi^ lorii rxrrcisfd din Oii: thi' < 1nn\h iH-jirin;:^ ? Why wa'- il not exrn-Wd ? Adtnirat Tijim ii. 'Jln-ti' 1^ no ijnp-l i'm tfiat i!ieoroliral!y thi= dilit'l'ii o I'oiil'l h\)\v liei>i exni'iM'd at any tJTni', nnil ii may wpH Ik* that tin- KiiTiliir.i of Information An ha^ nmdo ns more awniT of thU. WiiidJ viMi >|h"ak f<n- yonr-(dt. llUaM^
Ijinliiii-^'cr
S.n;"hi- Iv'-rir.
wimhl
to I'timmond
Mr.
Ml,
noii]i
I,\x'in^*:r.lc. 1
a-"
it-
S<'nnior,
tit
dili;jence
5^0
inia::ine tlic pres^-nre'; imdor oi^ dill n1 ihe time or;r:Mii/:jhoM nA In^' In r-o'^]KiiMK uliirh 1 tliink llie CI on of In- (*hni'i h i'omniirirr In a? ii;j-. th* hid way* of thr Hoor I wen- fnll of 1h)\i- fmtji onr rl'l-lnd^ i-rnU'i. K\'ery ho.\ that anyoin^ thon::lrr iniild |Mi^<ihh roniain anyihin;.- wji^ railed ti]> for si-nrelt. Il \\u^ line itf a franii'- i^tlorl lo i'<nu|d>
rhtiron^'hne:^:^.
If y*u
r:Mi
am
thr pri'-^nrr of ihai -itnalioii e"<d- 1owjk nnd yon fan stnil liHikin:: at thinir- iv*ti'rojn nalh yon air a] it lo Hnd ihini'*^ thflt yon wonMn't niidi-r tin- licat nf rra*h ]iro;;i:nn.:ind thai i^ \vhal ha|>|>en('d
\\\\ri\
.
:i
hetr.
l\**l M- J'hank von M^ry nm<h. Senator Kerniedv? Srimlor l\l.^^rl^^ Admiial 'rnrm^i, Ihi-* i> Jiri enormously di-^Trrs'^' ( *oni:i'e^- and In thr Anierli'an ih;i rrporl Uiat von ;:i\e tnthe Ann'rii-an |H'<|ile lodiiv. (nanlrd, it ha]^]"'ned many \eai> a;ro. linl wlirtt vt arc
.*^riiai(*T
.
MORI DocID:
163357
Ifi
.hv.-, ul.H, t.K.k pJn-,. in (lie cnunfrv tli.il rtM.,lw<l tl. (,.. t-M.. li i,r,.| fh- .oiTMi.tKm ..f mrniv of our oiif-Miiri.lrti- i-(.m:ii.1i ,vij-r> u, ij.,- ,. iiiv.iili ('lA fi.n.U. wiipro 'onie <.r i.iir i..|. iv-.r:MvI,.-,> n.- ni.wit. !;..)>ii.vr.Iv.',} in rp^iiroh Eimns..rc,; 1.V III,- A-.'Pi.v ii> wl.ii), tl-i l,;i,l no Iciiowl,.,!-,. of til,. I'ack;.l-.put
;i^
p.Ilv
nlU-a'
IS n,.
v;t^ ,lotH- i(li Anifii.iiii liii/cns wIki wi-rr roninl'telv ..(ik(,..,f,;: ill Ivrr.i- of ti.kiii- Viiii..u> dni-s. nn.l liu-rr niv ptrlmps ''"' "f Aiii,ij..:mj: m1> iut ""> ' wnikiii-'jiniiiinl triin"oii 11)0 Pn<t
..f
it
Mii.l,
ronMnrwo^lrnnM wlMwnvyivHMhi,p^,wiiJ,nnt)u-kinrK*fp}n-i^^
nii'l |ir.'Iit>li;rMiil ihw-.iizi- tl^jii
r^nvf.il .It-tiul, nthf il i< si^'in[i,-m*t an^ fU'Vi-ro iiuIi'iMl. ilii not I kiir^v i-miU l.r tUmv in n l* (Jriinirrnlif <*oiinfrv thnt \v(nij.l 1h- iMiw nlirh lit <t\vjj fijirjif in- rli;ut ^0- rvaUv t]nne
muiy
nni
1-.-
rauM-.I.
whM
om
n>i.l j*>
wo|i)il hki^
(!oiji(^
wn>i> of yonr
own ooiuvni
nlHiitt
tlits !vjf
of
nffivifv-nii'l J"\v
ity
vou iva<-MuivHij
of
ri-suriiffl ilij>
Cuih^r ajmI tUv inprwhfhiiUif: siip|>f^n, nlivjc^iisly. of ihp, t '^-u^'if'--.. tmthr J)ii- M^t of fivninisiaiKV.-^. I tlid Jiol t'lt iiiitrh of n frrli>i;: ii) ic-viow inp vour Ptn1oN>(>nt horolhis nioniint: of iIm- liiiu] of nMmnx-iirtH tr tlii^ lyp'r of |)nct flclhjtv wiiidi T tliini; thi' Aiiirri.'jui peop^^ wouLI roTlninlv iK]ilon' Biul ivhich I
rM'>:i*li-iil
with
t^.- f<iiifiilcTiri-
;,'ivi-
u-i \\hi\\
iilriis
ijiirFT
it
ion, ftiiiUlsn
cannot linppen
totally nl)}inrreiit to nif to think nf M-iTi;: ji ImniitTi U"in;:;i^!i ;:iiin<M pi^iiml in iuiy wny jciiimHizni;: ill- Hfr un-1 hi-- luTilil). n>i jonHd how irirjit Hn- (nn-r, I am not
.\ihi\'\r.x]
TyusYM.
Sfi\itU4}- Kc-rnTi-Oy,
hnr
T
ti'
p;j-- ]n(l;:ii/"ni
on n\
prfjli'ir->'>rs. In1
run
n'^-niT
von that
itic^
of niy rfinttinpl^lion
inTi'MJ;:rnrc^
n;:!'/!*]!--^
ttf t\f\\\
Ihi^
CIA
:tnt
ft'
-honM
that nntloflake.
to
ili'^nn-
taking' ainl liaxr t;ikin whal 1 1m li.-vo tlijii -lull tUini'- jjTi* n^t i'fnilin>iin:;linia\.
(
S-nrUor K^.^^^*>.
Ai}niirjtl It n^fi;.
thci-o UT.'
iln^' n-i^'^^K'^innJltli^M^rl.
iij 1
rjuM \nn
u-)]
n- a InHi'
Jtit
:jl.ont th:}! ?
fmu'
ii-k.--!
fur n ^ih'ri^J
iliat i^,
rrp^m
mo
iini-Iy,
wr
hin
rnllv.l
in1rlli::rn* r
-
fllirr ronJiliii**'-
tlir n- ari
had
a -in-riaJ
nu'i'k nijiih'
lliaf
"p
iJ)*'
^"^
llir
nnan(ln^ri/.r*l
ntnitinn
maUriaK
at fhv
CJA.
-n-h
h;iM'
tjMiL
an arinai
niafrrraU pn-rni
linvo
i-'*n'<h\|ni>-oiih'T-thrit tliaf -li;ill rmt hrlhiMa-r. Ht'Miiul fh:ii. 1 |i:n,> io ii'T\ in hniri' nn-^-nrp on niv -otw,. of ronv manii :in.| dir.-iilnn f>f ihr pi-upl- an- ihrir knnu Ir.li.-^' fif thr aintnde
1
)\u\> jn-1
<-\pic-M',ltuyoN in ihi" M-^rar.l. Snjn.t'Kr'wrjn. } ihuAi fU:it \^ ^^ly rin Ai}r*iirMl T\ u\i:t:. Tiiimk \nii,-.ir,
1
i-n-hil.t,
liiink
ii
i-^
inipmiaiK
liial
17
VoM know,
tivifips dfini*
^';ri*iTiiah"
Tuiirli
of
till-
iv-('nr<1 wlii.li
i^^
our arra of
iiilrrp^f
that
bv
ilic
A^'l^^ v,
nm
way
I'lTi.
douf
lnh>
*if
Mc-nlal Ui'nltli.nllii'i
h\ii
]
mlnitio,
incnn.
tltnl
is*oim'
*^tln^r fjin'-f
loi
of
froiihlf, wlioi'e
r^j ihc :i-U >ou s|M'<'ifi*ulIy, on llir folluwuf* of MKl'LTRA. arc iJjpvi' now 1 think you \\u\*- nn-wwi-iL bnt ] \Minl t't pft n riijiipUlp nnvwfv ulioiil any c.\|*i inx'ntntiori- xh;tt n\v \mAu'^ <lonf on htniian bein^:*. Avljc'tlior if i'- dm;:- <>r lH"li!vioi;i nItriiUion* or |>ntlcin* or any Mi[>poir. ('itlirr (liivrHy or iinlfr'-^ily. Kctu;: jnoi idril }i\ t]iv Aj^rrif y in Irpni^of !inv PXjirnnirntjU ion on linnnit lH'in':>.
AiJniii':il
Ti
nvr.i:.
Tli
UJjf^-. \vitt]>>;jor unw jfiifii:. Iw-hi^TooiiM-tiM liTInil \v ^ ^ Scniiror KKNVKnv, All Tiplii.<'i l in;;MjiHioi (t^riiiTlTrvotly
t
-'H'
i'
on ImjiMTt
?
mean.
Ailnni:il 'rrT;\r(;-<*iU"in^inini>
Strjiiioi
Tinii
wuv
^n]'|uir'i**l,
K IN %>:>!,
la ri'H'jiii'J/
11"!
inir (\ninhi(l"i"
All hn^
rij;Jii.
lloiv
;jl>i]r
tin-
M-i-n
p^v^ic*^u^;:^r-\^
nMoirn'.'H
i'l*
:\rv
of hrhnvjor. For
ronlinniilly involve*! in wlmt we rail npins^inr*^ wi- nrr trying to f-ontinnally ini-
a-M^*^ u-|ii>ilioi a jirrMin I- ]\hi^ ill uni. 'r)jj- t!#h- lu'i in Veil vr tiny tJuujMTini: with lln' indivifinjil IkhU. 'Jhi- i)ni>Tvr* -Inclyin;; H'loril*. of iiPo|ik'"> Iwlinvior nndor fHtfVrt'ht ''iTv-nnr-r:nrr(\s. txut] h-i on, l<nl it \> no* an cxjwrimontaJ thinp, H:i\<' I iIi'-,rilH\l that inrmuii'ly. A!?
prcvy our
yon know.
Ml,
it
i-liniilril fi^liifiM*
arra-?
Vo-; ii ihn-^ tuH in^'o^e attpniptinff to ino<Iify beliivior. It only invohi- -tnil>ni;r hi*li:n ior rmnlitioji-, In1 noi Irvjnp to a.^tJAi'ly rnoilify it. a- wn-^ orn- nf thv nbjiv(i\v- of AIKTLTKA/ Si'iioior Ki:>;\rr>Y, Wi-lh wi- :>rr >i":iriv on tinir, hnt 1 Am inlri^stntl in till- othri' urc;!'* !H'siiji-^ |ol_\;:n|)h wlu'ir yon nri' iloin;: it, Mnvlw Vim ran cithi^r ri'-|"inl nrw or>nhnnl it for |]V mtohK jf von wonlij do rJiat. WonM yon providi- tliai foi'ilir uvoi.i?
'J^n;\i:r:.
I
A-hnicn
[Thcnuni'iiiilon iiMiliolo^rii^al
a->->'->Mnv]i(-
fi>l!ow>:l
I's>rlnp|n;:itn3 n'^M'^'^mi'uK iin- |'rf.triinM i\^ ii s^rvin- (c n1h-l>t^ lit th( ni*ranioi^ ilini'tnriir wU.. n-cTiin nud i,f tiiiiLilh- ucf-i.T^ Kxiv^i f.,r |ioiinl.> Ijivolvi'd II) innniiii: .-inirv-. ijn^ *.iiijr.r* .^f tu*- .^,-.>,i-nj^ -jr,. f,irfii:rj imtM-nfth TJii-
iii:i>.rily .rf
J>rr<-iT
ihf \*oTk
in ^li.iu^
)*
^ijiff if Jrnijii'*!
ivvr'hnh-cJsli
nontP nf
la^Jirr't.
Ki'ii.^
1y>l
'
wliirh
).>!
ncXanUy u
disfllis.-il I^Tr|)ulMj;iriJ
*^Nhif<-trl
r-.
tpsi
..,..,,.,! ,,n
ludivid^Hils
l*iiiff
;rjWNJ
.hn^v
r*Ji.*>i.;.J
hi\r:f^^iin^t,t ..r
\\t,vu n|i,T:i[]iii.' "..u.lrri.iii. jin- Kii.n lU-.ii u Uuf^tf-Tn*,. iiitervi^-w ik iu>l jM.-^'^iUNTill' |K,^^lh,^.^i^r ih:i> fjn :ni iiKhr.'.r n^*^v,n.rut. n^iuK j|>> MMirr* m:it*Ti:Llx t|.'x.Tij.tiMi,- nt rlu- '^Lili.i.Hi l..^ iliiTv iJXerv.^uj* with
JiWiilt
T'-rnir,*
ftJm kin>w
MORI DocID:
163357
18
TJir wvti^ j^ d<>iiv l-\ it |-.iir >if ir;jmk'ii 4:r;j]jJi4ih>i;isls. Aj(jlMi b} a Muall iiiiiiiInT uf JiJiii^uri'Uit'ur Tttljhi'jiih', 'Mn'* isrinTiiUj n-^jinrf at leuBl Mi'aiirtiuf]il-> ure UJJjf of about a'|ia;:i- ot liijJiil rillr'ii s(n|i1 !> Ibi- ^M^Je au il.ll.rtul wniiii:; rtiiir;ii UTl^ill-^> and Uw>i' ;in- tburied uuU furujihtnJ lu Uj
Jo^jciil ;i:-M'>-iL<i hr
t
'J
ln'
iP'jn h*luj;i?'i*
aUi"
liir
;:ivi-
iTHiiM's
tij
jt'itc hifl*'j:K'ul
ii-^i's^-iuviir
li*
gruui> of
CAclt witlj
till?
truiJiiui:
'I'iif
nmrM'.
iu'-lru' i">r
i^iudeiii.
11 i> iLip'TtJiiJi In reilfrufi' ihnt iihvi'li'^Iojjkal assi-sMut'JUs urr only a iwrvit* U' 1h%- olmTUJJiitJs iiibt-vr^. Ill IL^ liuul jiJiul>al^, it In llti- rt^iHMi->ttiiUl> iff tbiu|4>riLlJiiJih ottiriT lit diiiJt liow u jioKTiliuI Uhfi'Nl Kliuiih) U- up^iruucUed. ur Iv
Tlir kind of tliiJig ^m- art iiitin-MiiJ in is, what will niuii^Hti.' u iitaii lt> betuun- an a^iil of Uli' Inili'Li States in a ditiicult siluutioii. W'v haw to U< fanulinr wjtJt thai kiiul oi actituiiina] itri>on!jo (hat \\i- ^aii cxpi^cl fnmi ^>eiplc wi- up]'tou< )i tu foj one rta>ou or uji"ilifr iM-ruhir (nir i>pJ('^, but 1 wilJ U- Ixiipj^y ly bubinii a very
Adiun^] TvHvtR.
spi't:itic
listing of t^le^e.
Sciiiiti/r
KtN>tiy.
followup>,
<.ould
AVoiiliI
ill
tJjr
lonniiiMrf?
In
tJu
tlio
MKSKAKCIL
us
uJ:&o
CillCKWlT,
you
givi
OFXKN,
involve
oxperinicntntijm,
hinnan
Senator
KrwKin.
Iniein;5riiee O'lnniittee, the rrh'vant, 1 iin'iiu. tiu> heultli a^iiect?. obviously, aid the researdi we are inli^resn d iTi *
sir.
Senator Kf^NVKPY.
'Will
you
V>e
will
l^n for th*' niaferjal i-efrrr'd to.] SennH"- K>;xnki>v. Thimk yf>u. 1 nm rutnifu^ mit <>f tiuje, Dn you = niprtn the e\teu-ioi of the profreljnu of lunnau sidijeets le:;i^latinTl *>i'!ihly on that t'. ineludi' the CIA and ihr DOU? Von r*.nuui nird fa
Se(* p.
MORI DocID:
163357
19
before,
posed legifilntion. sir. It is not my rol? in tin* adiiiinisfratton lo be the supporler of it or the endorser of it. Senator Kenn-eht, A*i n porsonn! nmtti-n sinre yon havr rpviewed tlieso snl*jec'f^, wonli] yon ronniKnf ? I knnw it i> uia\U unusual but you cnn undt^rstnnd vhni we are altoinptinp to do.
and I anj hopeful we cni> pet that on the calendar eirlj in Sepi ember, and ihat is onr strong inleii-sl. Adiiiirai Ti-rxer- Tho CIA rei1inly has no olijertion fo that pro-
Admiral Tcrneb. Ye?:, sir. St^nntor KrvvEnv, Fron) vour own exprnrnre
can understand the value of
-fu*^! filially,
it.
in tiie
apenrv tou
te^tiinonv now with this ndditionnl information, it seem*^ quite apparent to mo tlmf vou rnn reron^tniri in Ter\' rarefiil detnil this whole pT-ojrrt in tenn of thr rrsponsiMe CI \ ofhnnis for the propram. Von }nve so indicated in vour testimony. >ow with th^- additional inforniition. and the peoplrl that hav*. been revealed tlie exnmmation of th^ df^ftiments. it seems to be prettv olrar that vou can track that whohproffr^m in ven careful detail. Hml I would hope, you know, ihai vou would want to pet to the bottom of It, as the Conp:res^ docj= as wiOI. I will come back to that in mv next
in
yonrown
round.
Thank you
was m fact ifiven to the Church rominittee staff to see? Admiral Ti rnf.r. The answer to vour question is ''Ves,*' The informatiiui that a contribution had been made was made available, to the best of my knowlod^. Senator SdivKiKO, Only certain sections of the re|>oit were made nvflilabli". The rriK)rt had fo be reviewed out at I^anplev it was not reviewed here, and cojiies w*-i-e not (jiven to %\^ }oi-e. 1 jst want vou to carefully coiiFider what you are savinp, because the onlv record we have lire the noie> that ilie siaff took on anvtlun" tliat was of
;
Senator Ixm IT. Senator S<'hwpiker? Snnator SrHWKTKKii, TJiank you, Mr. Chainnan. Adnnnjl Turner, I would like f o pi> b^n k to vour teptimonv on naire 12. ivlietv yon dtscu^s the contribution to tfie huihlinnfund of a private medical mstitution. Vou statr, "ludej^d. it wn-^ nicntioned in a IpM Tnsp^rfor (Irncrai i-ei>ort on the Technical Sen ice Division of * lA. jH-rlmfnl poition^ of whirli had l>i'pn n^viewrd bv the Church committiT staff/" I would !ik- to hnve yon con-kler tliiv que^inon verv canfnm, ] sined as a member of thr oripinul Ciuirch committed. 31y stflflir dirl a lot of the work that yon are referring to here. He niadu not*'> on the lOV iTpon. Mv fjuesiion to vou is, are vou sayinff that the 'Section that spi'cificnliy drlin.'atos an iniprojXT contribiilion
sipiiifiinnee.
Admiral Tir.ver. My nnderstandinp was that Mr. Maxwell iras shown the relevant portion of this rejiort that disclosed that the contrdmtion had Iven made. Senator SnnvEiKKR, To follow this up further, I'd like to sav that *^*'"^/'"^ff ^^^^ serious fliiw in the wav that the IG rei>ort was T handled anil the Church committee was limited. I am not making any accusiiimns, but becauf^' of limited arcess to the ivport, we have a situ
20
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Ad.mral. that c .sc.1 constn>c:i grant n-M.lu-a i., tl.e u^' of F.-a,.n.l on oo,- ojrn for .Ik^m; sort- of ^x,.e.,n,en,s
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on n p>o,i
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CIA
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thn. t.m.;
tbc ainn..b-s nt tb.t tun.-, so T^'hethrr pro.n.,1 or not. 1 io not enonpb of a ,1... ,.,..,.l vvi.- on -Io-hI bp;.l to nii- if it lianH^nc^l l.wv.r ... I..- ^".v. but it ..ni.iiily wonl.l o.ciir , tn.l:ivii-!i verv.|in-lionnb!cai'livity. , .,! , , on nn.l ".iw.iK.u. Wrll. 1 tbn.k tboM- of Hs who worked <;,^u,y S. oilw bo^i.itnl con=ininiion a^ft,i,cn,b.i lb.' llill-ltiiHoii A.1 ami "-onbl bar.- n rnllier .bIT.-rrnt opmion on '^i^liin.r b."- ov..,- lb.- vf;ii-. Conpr.--^ ill |.(i"nip In" - to provide hostlu- I.-m' ii>t.-ni or obii'-rt of for pn.j.'.'l Hion.'y. Tb.'s,- fnn.l<. wfirnl intended
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d^iiivli rmnii.itlH-.
.
roi.M )*i^t \^. T think. cfniid^ were rinulc. 1 <li>iri liiiiik ai^v of tliis M^.j^^ or ill*- rn.nt.lunff the hoi^wort^ im.I If* UH'.l 1. .on.l>iil clnip rxioriiMCiit-. Thoy Nnu, llh' {]\ Ibrn j.nt morr innm^v iiilo n fmiidnfion Thnt wn? Tiiiiil hospital, w> mii.hh'ti)iMVH;M^li (-ri Uii' ('lAV }>h!ilf>upivo^i-illy in tlmi ^x;.^ not M^<^d foi^ Wi- t-rriiiinlv tIkti-. Imt tlu- i.ioni-v
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\MTiMini i*sl on ; woivdh^v m>l t they erp. Adininil TrnNKi;. A\> .io not l.av,- pn-itn.' rvidi>nro ihnt
i-Mlnly woul.l
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%vh^ u>c<L ilifrivinr i^ iJmiI om-sixtli fjf flu; si>in-o on, hnt il.m- 1= no furlnnl f>vi. flMii rM.r7iTi..'Utr.f ii.T. ^li^ !<".. n.l s" or wlmt ucnt on ii. a.n.v of wl,=.t ^^^lll -m ^ n n'Mih of ll,:n ,niytiirnt it ihdn t hai>i)en. fluii It.i^iiiiiil.It NjiH iiii-inp:. li Knotllmi S-n:.!oT St MWLiKri:. ,\<lmii:il Tumi-r. one otlirr-
X.Tn.in.l
TnixKi:. Sir,
fl..-
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iv ^iivm-
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viHi! oil ihM i>oint ? vloriinipnt'. Sji:roi S. inu-iKKK, 1 iniikr>luo(l tlm( lo tl.** np-nry ^^ tJml oiiP-sixTh of tm- lanht> oil i]m' :i"iv,i^iriii if \y- v\\^]\ri\]\- MuH-d revi,uh\ \h- li-i-r.:ii'tl for CIA lis.' niul irm.lr nvaikbU- for t lA
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vim
fjiiiolijii-
My. ItLMin. St^iul.M. .1^1 n-.'nll.voTinnM'ijrlit tiimofoin-sixnij^nl iinv Torsional iill liii^ todu
niv no
Mil-4'.(iuriT
m that tlirrr ip h
.
wilh
Ijlaimin;;.
mn*Thoro
i^iunr- a> lo
wliiit
S']i:Hi)iS.'n\v}:iKKi^ A.liiiiniVniniriJ inul in the >rw ^ ork involved mi tiv ilint |.ui of ilii- Hii.^ of MKlJ-TIiA oxiKiinuntti-M J-SP Mirr:Mi^i'oii'iil virl, tin- Fnl.-nil llnivao of Nnivoli-j.^ tt in ln> in Nt'w "^ ork and San n i^titioii-^lv nil unwilling iiiiif Fnin.i,r<,/Si.iu,- of iliv snl'irH^ U-.jniu' violonllv ill and vtkiv Jio=wore i>itidi/,t'd. 1 wondii if von wonM in-r l.iiofly dr^nlK* wlial we
doinjrllionnnd Low
Adn.init Ti mnkil
Irnrni^d
il
n-morit w^ throuph
s-if*-
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nimiinn tU'
liow
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my
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from
siifi
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mw
ditiun>'ritnl ion
thi^
lorntion
whirh thr
lMniM'> \v*Tr
inn
liv tlio
CIA
ihm- iTidividiiiiU win* wt^n- xi-^.-'i^ii-il with \\\- know stMiirlhin;: hIkh*! tUv ronst nirt ion work
thrni
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ihrro wm'rnnTisirt^ for ihi^. Hi-yond rhnt. ii'o nrc pretty dnnMiip infiTenri^:- :r- to ihr rhin;:-thiil wrni on a= to what you
Wrlh
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22
Senator Sciiwokkr. If you happened to be
o1
Ihe
it,
-wn: made, as we uiKleT>EaTid it, in bai>, ft cetera, an<l then l)ie people may have been inviieil to tJjest- safe Ijouscs, Ti>ere really isn't any indication as to
ihf
fac'i xhixX
contact*;
t}n> irHik
A^tniiral Tlrni:k, arr trying to be ver\ precise nithyou, sir, and not draw ju) inft-ivinv lieiv. Then' arc G ras^^s if t]ji">^^ ]4^> whtre wc hriM' enaupli evidenec in this new documentation to substantiate that
AW
invtthcs these safe hon^e*-. Tiiorc mv other case& where it is ambiguous as in whether the t^'ttin^' WHS witting' or voluntary, Tiiere aiv others where it was clearly
thei-e war;
tJjal
Of
mean^
these case- wljrrr it j^ ninhi^nous involved drinking of any kind. Tiiere are casr- in junal institution^ when* it is not cJciir whether the prisoner wa^ '/wi-n it rhoi'T or not, I don't know that he wasn't given a cJioice. Init I don'i i^o-itivt'ly know thsit he was, and I classify that at an
a)]
is
np, Senator.
TunH"i\ yon stated in your testimony that yon are convjnij'd therr w/>s no .Tttenipt toroncea) this n*eenih' disiovered doeumenlatjcjii dnnn;: 11h' enrhrr searclies. Did yon qnition the individuals coninifi'd witli f ho earlirr -^nreh Ijefore yon made that jn<]<:rnent ? Ad?iiir.d Tnivrii. Yrs: 1 haven't- I donVtJunk. fptcMioned ever^btxly who looki'd in tln> files or is still nn onr pnvroll who looket! in till- (ili'K b;ii k in l!iTr)J>nf Mr. Lanhinpev on my left istlieWst authority on thi-. nirrl I hnvo pone over it witli him in some detail, Srn;itor H-nnry*iTr)v. Rnt you have inquired, yon think, snffirientlv to as'iiii'*' Yoinsi'U that there w^it no intmt on t!fe pnrt of any person to**oncoid the<j^ I'eford*^ from the previons committer? Adinirnl Tiunfr. I am per^undrd of That both by my finestioning of peujdo and hy the eircnmstnnce^ and tike way in which these dorumnit- wore filed, hy the fact which I did not and shonld hnvp mentiojiod in my tesliiMony, that thi-^ were not the oifieinl filps. The ones that wr Idivc rrreivcil nr i-etricvi'd wen* cojiies of file? that wrre work*iTijr file'^ that youiclK>i1y had nsed, and therefore were slipped into a diffi-n nl Irtnfiori, nnd npain T say to yon, sir. T can't imagine their deliU'ndely f'Onc-ealin;: these partindar fih-s and revcalinir the other
thjn:r^(!iM/-l'
tli:t
tliry
did tv^eal in
thjit
107-'. T don't
ihi^-catc rmt
)>n>vid-d,
damning
the niotivr for that, eornp;( red ivith the overall niateriaj
s***-
th:il
wa-
Senator lTi'hnrr>Ti.N. Js this the kind of oprration thai if it wen^ f^ontinnin^'n^'"' or if flif^n* were anvtlirnff -iniilar to it.thaf von i^onld fori eompidlid to rrpoii to the ronmiittri* on Tnielliijenref
^W^
sir.
Von nuMn.
if 1
di-<'ovrr4^d that
some-
urre
i.'^nn;;
on wflhmit
my
thr n'*|iiin'u>rnt to
23
ScTiatoi Hi in.i>:sTiN. Hil if i( wi^*' t'^iu;: <m wiJh yonr knowledge, woiilJ vciTirt^pon ittc*theroi(nutU'e?In--iiiiu'>ou would. i^owii on with Ad^nnu! 1 inNKif. V^-s, AWH, it wotild not kiK\vleilp"J'tullnH>ivtlcalK-f}n-iui>wor i-^yn^,sir. Stiuior Hti>/nj>i>*N. ^Vell, then, "}jur st]^t:''>tions would you have agencies? What iks we divj^f djnrter> for thr vjirinus inleHi^ronce pi<visii]i would voii sug^'vsl io proliilni xWi- kiud of activity from
my
Uking pliKC^
liiu-d
WoM
vou
sup^-isi thnt
it
ougU
stntutory ciimtej' SL^rtinf: out tlie pii'>>iliJf oiKTiTtiojt of t]je viiriods ap'iieie>? Admiral Tuknlb. I tliiiik tlmt ccrtninly is sometJiing we must consider as \\\^ loiik at the lepi>latinu for rlmrUrs. J am not on the face of it opposed lo it. 1 think wc wouM have to look at th<' particular wording as we are goin;: to have to dcnl witli the whoh' charter issue as to exactly liow preei-io you want to be in delineating restraints and curb- on the intelhpence activities. Senator Hi'Di>LJ-ST<^N\ In the case of sensitive type operations, which this certainly whs, which miglit l>e ii<w'^ nn (oilny. is the oversipht activitv of the apencv inoi^ intensive now tlian it was at tliat time? Admiral TiRvra. Mucli more so. I mean, J have briefed you. sir, have the Intelnnd the conmiittee on our sensitive operations. lipence Ovei-siirht Board. AVe have a procrdure in the National Seriiritv Council for approval of very sensitive operations, I think the nmoiint of spotlight focused on tliesi- activities is many, manyfold whnt it was ill tlie^- 12 to 24 years ago. Senator Tli'ni>T,r.^T<tN. How about the record keeping? Admiral TniNEn. Yes; I can't imagine anvone having the gall to think tlmt he can just hlithelv de^^froy records today witli all of the nttent ioij th^it ha*- come to this, and certainly we are emphasizing that
in
Ji
We
Senator lIiiau^rs-n-N. Admiral. I was particularly infere^^ted in the nctiviiy that took plaee at the T'.S. Public Heallli Service Hospital at LexingUni. Ky.. in wliich a Dr. JTarri* Ishell conducted exi>erinients fiu |'H*o]ilo who were pre-umaldy patients there. Tliere was n narcotics inMitutiiiu. 1 take it. nuil l>r, iftlell was. acconling to the New York Tiriiec story, carrying nn a secret series of con'e*'|>ondence with an individual at Ihr agency by the name of Ray. Have you identified who
thiit
person
i=?
Aditjiral TiTtN'Zft. Sir, I find m\-self in a difht-nlt poifion here at a pnhlir hearing to confirm or deny thes*' names in view of my legal respoiisihilili<^"i under the Privacv A<*t nol to di'-rlo5i> the names of individuals here. Senator Hi niiTTTov. I nm jn^^t a^^kinc you if yon have identified the ]ierson referred to in that article as Kay, 1 am not asking yon who he was. 1 iust want to know if vou know ^^ho he is. Adufciral TrRNEii. No, 1 am ioiry. was this IVr-n-v or I^-a-y? in Senator Hi m>LKSTOx. It is lisl<".l in tJie news nrtirle as finniations. Admiral TtrxKH. No. sir, we ha>'c not identified him. Senator HvTa>i,r>-niN. So von have no knowledirc of whether or not he iss'ill a menilH^r of vonr staff oi rounoeicd with the Agency in
Ray.
to identify
him?
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[Pause.]
Thank
yoii.
Mr.
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nifiiiii,aii.
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Sonafor Ivoi
Sector
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tfic-
Sciininr AVji)lop
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Mr
Cli^iirmnn.
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I^oJ^ijiff ,lf>\>n
inairjrinji^ :nt il doi-M.'f i. nnvf]iin;r vrrv .=iin==trr Bl>ouf tJj.iK Smdi<-^ of hnman bolmvior nntT sl^^op iv^^jprl*. lil.mrv .warrlj<- Votv thonthiii^ 111 thou- M-ay niT still of inlcn^st, arr tlirv noi, \o tbr prore->=, of intoni^oiu'o pi^thoriiif:?
lli*^
thmi^h
of
s/imt*
nf thcw- IT ntr^iM*:
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hnvp
not
it
mt
dninir or
T.vf>nlil
do
mvolvMiTiMKrLTRAJnit
t^'srititrof |>t'Oi*lo
wli.-n
wiHi
ih'i*;^. tJiiit
^^onio^'totJir
nflirr
tliiiiiTii.
vrtlnntorr pnti^rfs? I t^wn^\. T nin not trrinETto put you nu tli^ spot fo'-ny ^hftln^r it 19^ pouxunn, hni 1 nn-aw. it isnm in unroniiiinn tl<iTiir> i^ h. in t)if ]iriw*T/i *^f tlu' T'nitfl Stafr.c for \hf Pnl'li' lT.'filt)i ^irvirr lo ronduci vario- kinil'^ of oxivyijttoMl^ with vm^^iJir'- atuK s.ty. ijinlxmi t-imrns? 1 kn^w in Arizoiin tliry h.ivr
t^irli
So^HTlru- WAi.T.or.
y,\on
done
so,
Adrnirnl TiTvrn, Afv imi1rr=tnn'!Jiiir i^ ^r^U of tlmi i^ nutlr^ri70il. but T flm not of tlir opinion lh:it tJii^i i n^l tbo rTA*- bii-inp^^. jind thnt if wr^ nopfl Min>o jnforninlion in tlinf ontriror\-, J ^noM pn^fnto ^^^ In tTip otlu-r nii>i''i'ri;ilo inilTinvit jr*; of ll^f fia> ('vnnjrni nMf\ n^k tlirni 111 iT'^i il for iw T-*lln'rth:in toin nnv wnv Si'n:it"T \M.iii\ XViTl. yon kniiw. voii li:ivo libr.irv sfnnlio^ ^m} nt-
tornl:initlic luilk
:if
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njilii*ti:i| ^-nniii'ii*.
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wanti'*] to nfk
von
if
of
cin'-i'
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wri-o in
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by
nn;r)'' ntit
do rm, A
b'^'lntii.Tt*"
kitid^ of tliinc- tliat tbr Vri-i*l<'nf voiild T*ot h:t\c Ix-f^n bnrrifrd
tliir^tr--
nnv wny
l]n- H-J
of
tbi"
typr- of
I=n'i tbnt
prob;*bly tho
A'lriiini]
St'ri:?J"r
ihA in fn-i apf>-:ir in tbo TH TT|>ort. i= tbrn' niiv M'f>-on tf* supjio-r f}i,it rbi' Vrp-idojjt did not kjioM- nf tliifi pri>ii'i1 ? Y(i)i -!ii,l thriT w,n- no irji-ioji tn -npp<wr tbnT })r dvb bi?t Irt nkr ri'voTM' tliiil. I- tlirn- any n-M-nn to -iipposo Wxni tboy did not ?
yv.
Ami
if
it
Aibiiival
Truxrn, No.
IVi-IT
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rninmf iTnn-jinr^ von ov Jiipcnlly jiivvbndv mub-iinkiT^c iirojVn^ nf tbc mripnitudr of dollars brr** niul in^t nut tiio^Mu;: nU.iit JL niir informing your sii]>prior tbat
T
Sonntor AVvij.or,
von know.
ju=t
MORI DocID;
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t!K':-c
rnlBiii
iloiii^
of
i1
o|Jl>car in
thr
w";ir
1^,.
.o ^n-s.
.n., .1.
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of know,.
it,
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nm
y.m to sooon^-pnoss
but
"XhliVaf-l^
\vc vif'w
ii
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'vri.. 1 .. sorry.
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Yonr
,n..tion i.
wo.
,l.i.
vita,?
D.d
vital
\<iiniral
Ti
HVK.iE.
hiirli tl.nl
Wau.t.
of tinn;:
bark and do tiiHt 1>.- of ns.; lo vou to know :i-:nTi. Inil Thi rrrtinn if wouKl sonK^ono hnd [o ^inpprn to one of vo^ir n-f^nt^ av'^mniiij:
t^li^'^
Y^-, ^ii\ I '' '"H' lli<^y *'*! 1>' JiJ^'^i" * )"^* ^*^" prnm-MrdtiM-oxf^-mivt^hirtiirli. Jtnt tW kimK of iiifo hnt.on niT villi i^'^P^^f
'
mo
hib hlooilsirpaiik or
tnrd
(o
modify
hi^^
or other rcnu'd if we nilijirlod to by sp or imthinps tint our apfnt5= or otliei-s. conM npont>, proper iiM. of dr i;:s liv otlji-j pr.wer- ii^MiM'^t i.nr in-nple or are Senator W.mj.op. AVo tlieie? J don't a*k you lo iinnio them, but _ tliere snch sernm^? ,,_ ,^ ^ _ t}iore are. I would have to Admiral Ti rnfh, I don't know of thorn if
\dmiral Ti
i^nkk. Al-^ohit^'h, mid von know, ^\o would tlionpht fliore won tliinf:-^ likt- Trnlh penim=
W very ron-
i-erord.
I
f=ir.
Smator AVALi-nr.
[The material
would nppiv'inte
Ihnl.
i-efeired to follows:]
iMiii^Uiknic r.,l f imM'.-i.|,bIwM^.I ciKTij.^i. li;^ Jit liiii^'- l^- snU^tiriMrtl f-r Jum*-^ |ir.Kli itii^Il n-'ijH*Mjljiliii; iTHiUirv in ibp Im lirf [l;"t ilin-*! iiH-ih-nN pr:ir rvjiiip'b- of "llnr^l ^h-trrk^ SlH^li**!!" wnrin;: in l>v<r nin..n:.li". a crM> j.l.':i-:(iiiiT r. -it n'Diforirtl-b \m lUo '^JinU' "li i> f lii*!iJi fi,i-^ hv fhi' jp-^H *>iiri Imnfiiiff ni }><^\>\tor in a im.ct dfvirni e,\f> i|j:iri n. t-o :il"ir in Ihr rul'l'inj:
mnnft nooa U'f ,'fr,itivf^ nidfi ti> liil*rr.niriitxi \-^ ir'>KnM> np olfl n^ fmu, uit ij.'iM.i*T:iHM- sinin.^ iiir1 n^ ii^r^.-^rfnl (I* hi^: l,> nMniEL iiifnnum In Hi.- ^liiiiiK <r VoU.v iiiv,-^ ic:nr.-iL ii.n.:ilM'i<^ I*' vh^^r'riJt j.h> li^rMum^ itjilli
Till- KTBrrli
Mr
Ut
mi
from nc-cuTil
in-rj-'U^. drut'"
h biHi nr-
rtuuit^
MORI DocID:
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Planp 3 in thfi puj-rrhlilrtc "irork'^ Mi^. It tar hiM only a few EainiitM, bat run Ik* nlPurtwl hj- further hIi"^ Jnjeoiinn iT JruK. Th* i3>unl rrartk-e I* to l>Hnjr Ihe Ktihii^ri qulclclr fo SU^p II ii>d to roudncr lhf> Interview Sh be pftwei backlnTothesedanrpBUgeoD tbeiraj tofuUc^DSCJOUtiUns.
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study fat
fans j>r^1u<1(Ht Kpricut-^ RTslemstlc IPQ^t Bs piilill^hnl opn}y) of the itoleTitialLtl^s of dnifr^ for I'nferroffathiM Ixiuis A. Gnt(/4rbRlk, urTyiti( their ntti- In In format imi-np^kinp loTerTlt'\vs,[l3J ril*-N ]3fi refereiJ0*K: hat only rwi. foucli ui-on the eTstrarlinn nf l(it*iri(rfii*"e InfMniintiiiii. aiul on** of thes roht-lndt's m(*re1y thai Ruwiati lech"
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D. P, Mnrris In whlrh Intravenous aodJum as belpfut In deiw^tinc m^Unpeivo.IlSJ TIh' subjerts, oldiM'-, were Ql first MillHi, iieentlvlntir. and nnnprodtirtive under amyt^tL hnt as the Interrl^w iirort^ded Ihey revealed t be fart of and ratiM-*: fnr ihelr malLngeririe. Ciuallj lb* Interviexvn turut^l uji a neurotic or pyoboTJr liasU for <be dfi^fptlon. The other ttvci eonfrw^^ion Ptudie*. mor' relevnne to the highly apeclalIt^l. unlduebed arra i-f drups In Intettlffencr ItilerrxiEntLMn. d^Herrc more detailed
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review, Ger'ionantT virtorofT 121 mnduciedamytat InterviewR with 17 neurop^yehtatrie [latleiifs. M'liUers ho had charprK airalnM them, at Tllton General Hofpiial Fort nil. FlrsT they were Intrnlewed without amyial hy a psycblairlst, who neither Ijrnorjnc nor irtres^lnit their ^dtuation ait prisoners or aufli^rti under wnitiny, irrjrwl ifh nf tli^ni fn diwrinu hi^ iiiri\a\ and f*milv haok^rniind bl" anny career and Wf version of the cbanres i>endinc apnmst him. The pntient*: were toirt only a few minutes in ndvnhre that narc^oanalvsis would r>e perf.iniifHi. Tlie d<irr<ir wps considerate, hur |K)flive and forthright. He indicated that they had no cNilce but to futtkniit to the prorednre Their ailltudea
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vaned from
from tbernjK'utir narcoannlysii* tn sf-veral ways: the aellinc the ty|ie of jiaiienis. and the kind of truth" soncht Al>i'i, the i>'nl>>H-ia were kejit in twilicht (*on*irunne*is louder than uMinl. Tbi'* stwte pruveil ricbeitt Jn yiel.l of artmis-LmK prejmtiHnl ti. the ^'ii^Ject. lu It hi^ H|.-erh was tbirk nminrilinc. ami dlHconn'^tiid. bnl his discretion was marked^ rednrt^l. This valnnble intem-eation periiril. lasiinj: .mly tlve ii ten minuti-s a nme, rould be reiniTu*-.'d by lnje<'tini ni'ire nniylal and poitini: the jKilieiil lnu-U ii* sleeft. Tin- inlerr-i|:ntinn ie<'lini^}m- vnriHl fnmi niM' li vut^- nncmlin!: ti 1Ht'kBroin(d inf-nnntlMj] Qlnnit the |inticnt. the serl"n*m'ss i.f \Uv Hnri;i'w. t\. jwrienft^ aTritndi- under njirftwiv ntnl his rapjmn wjib Ihc d-ttur SimiHiniK* it wn-^ nj<f*rnl lo preiend. ns ibe piilleni cre\\ m"te fully einisrimi^. tbni ht- li:kd alreiidx confessed dunnc the Bmm-stli- i-eTiinl of ibe inlerr"CMt|.>n. and U. urue him. whiii- his jiiemnry and ii-nse of Mir'pnH-riknn wrre still liininnL t.. rnntinne to eliOi'imie The derails of Khat he hiut 'nlrejidy rte*rrlU-d." WUvu it was obvious that a snhje<'t wns withh-'ldinc the truth, hi-^ rteni^iU were i|uii-kiy pas^eil over and ipnnreii. and till- ke> <i'i^" i.-n^^ wonM !- reft-nh-il in u new aiijtr.mi h. S.-vemI piitv^Hjii-. reveab-d fiinia^ii-^. fenrv. and ilelu*i.ins ai*i-roarliJnc dellrinni " '' "f w-hirh .nnid riTidily l*e di'^tlnt'ui^bftl fr^ni ri'alit>. lint si^nu-tjnies tliere
himself the chare.'** itt-nttin;: apainsf him befi.re lieiii;^ rjn."<itinnHl nl-mt them If he did this ii: a %'" fnily eonw^iuini Mate. Li provi^l nion effti>iiv* tr a>ik him tn "tjilk fliH.iit thai laivr am] to Inten-ofie a topir ilmi wnuld diminish xnRpirion diia,Unc the Interrocatkon on bij* rrlniinnl a^tiviir nutH be uns Itaik in the
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nmjui'stl^nlni! compliance to doinnrislit refusal. Kuril pntieht ^\a^ broufrhi to conijitete narconiK and j^'rmltled to fcJeep As he Ijecnnie nenii'-i^nwions iind roiild I* MhnnlRle<l tn penk. he wns held in this *!&*' with addllliiuat amyif^I while the qnesrionine pnKi^-dwl lit- wa^ iiueniionHl flri^l alKiiif innocu.ioK umiti*r' frotn hi*: tiarkKronnrt thnt he hnd dixriis^ed l*fore m^lvlnc lh druc Whenever posvihle. be i\ns niuin|mtfiiri] int^ l.nndiiff ui
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rr iln* e\;iniin^T disnn^-nisli Tnitli fnon fnuTii^v i-\it'pi hy referoihiT wmrt^'s. <HH- suhjeit i-Iaimeil t.. hnvi- n child ihat did not eiisl.
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n Hi'irfaUipr whn hitd Ix-^n ffpcifl t ^csr. ani! 7^1 nnmhi-r c-Kufr^sf^fl irr iffiriii iivjriNC J)i u rtA'l'vTy wbi'Ji iii Ttri b^ ba<l ddIj imrrli:i<+<l pm<1^ fniii Hie iiuriici]<]ii>. T<'S(im*my nmi-prnhic ilf^ tnd ippclflc Ilii'T*s w!is iMitTU*iTxiitrfli> atn! *f*fii nmrnnli'litry tirtatiM*- 'f Tlit* roilePl'K low of Miij->*'i>'*p. His vi-niciri ill riUnp ikJiiupr^ niic) ^v#nt; iirnvHl i|ueTtiml>lp. B*onii^i- iif his i-iii]fi]<<Uiu alH'iil bcIudI *v^uik anO wliitr hi' Ihimirhi nr fvorfKl titt} liai<p<^i<t^. thp fiatifur ut rimps majuic^l to rv>]t'^-;i1 flif irirMj U'linlPniifmally, A:^ TJi** *HJ*iHOi M'vivfKl, lif wuK] lrt'i>ni*- aii^an- ihni hi* was bi^lni; QUPftiion^ ahi>iir Ills MftTHs nml. dein'iifijEiif ajmii hfs jifT-uJiiJiUi>\ his fptir of i|isr'iv^r>\ or
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f'T iNininiJl^'^l i'\|'rriMpnlj*I Minli'^" *>f drnu rPii-lioit. no* only f*> i\^i>rvs^n\t^ riKf< [n kUnkiibiiti*- nnd [o nlnbilEurj<lo^ of tli-|ir^<^^nt<. ptiniuZiitiis. and
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24. TVTltnn, K, U".. ft K^M'^Ut. <'. J. P*iliiilvrs Ttn-n pluiriiiMmli>Ey Ki']iriiir fnitn Thr Mflii-fi} r tirmn '*/ \iii-fh Uiifiifit W. B. S^unrft-rv
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Rpiintor lV.<i,i,ir. If ihry iv, I woul*l nfi?inno ihni vou wfnild sti^l Irv (o find from oifhrr t!ioir<i or -oinHo*ly oUrV information liow to prnioolour|>oni^li' fi-iktii tliat kiiul of irlivity.
AdTniral TmsFjt.
Vpfi,
Senntor
T\'.m,lop-
iiiiirliH
Thnnk
34
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A<^iniml
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ini:
il:i(v
Tmnon
Ifiii;:
i)-^
tnwfJr>' Bftivitios
werr tak-
Inl^'li'd tlu^ni
iK-fon- vfiui' waf'Ji, anrl 1 think you liavp correctly abliorrojiL biu not only wcro thcv'flMiorrcnt, it f^ems
to nif tlifv woiv rntlii^i- I'UTi^flc], nhlntoMri^}l rxjprriiMcnt- Cfmf don't sooiii \n Iinvp l)pi'(i hnn<IIoci in ik ven- M-iontifiint loa*-t from the
waw
thr end
Admiral TiRxm Yr?, I am, and I al^ lave a srnsp of confidence that wr aiv linntinn; ourselves to lltp area^ whore we need to be involved n?: oppoM'd In ni'ea^ whn-e wc ca?i rely on others. S<'n:itfr Ciiaft:}:- 1 ai>i ronvi?ired of Ihntfrom your I'eport. I jutf do hojir that you Ii,n\e tM'o|*]e wlio an* ti.nined in not only hnndlinc this tvpc of exi>erimoiu,lnit in prej^nrinc the proper report and drawing Mil' proper diita tvoui tlie rejiort^. You an- convinced that you have
*i
tJii^tyitcof peopN-;
AihrnnilTcfiM-.n, Yes.
Si"Ti:itor ("n.^ry
>:.
sir.
doinp all it can in cooperation with other hramin-r^of the (lovernment to fan aliout t rack inp down the identity of tho*^ wlio weiv ill some way ndvei'sely atTr-^ted. and =ee what can be iloue to fullilt the povcmn>ent'^ re>:pon^iluhtier^ in that respect. I mipht add thnt J ronniicnd you in ihnt, and I liope \ou wjU pursue it
viporou^ly.
interested in wn^ the finrtl tf^Piimony hei-o. which T l>elicve aiT very important, and
pe*'ond point 1
The
am
State wa^ invoh-^rl in the^* proc^edinps, and it is nnrlrar oxarily wli.it did fnke plarr, s<j 1 havr !>oth a |>anwljinl interest in tlii^ :i]u\ i\ national intp)e-f a^ ^vell. j>nd ] do hop' \i>u wiH prt<> on witli it. It involvi-. nf>i only you, 1 appivrintr, but al-^oHKW and ixrbo]>- hf Attorney General.
lio^pital in
1
my
Thank yoii.sir, lAV wilk Senator Ci WKK, Thank vou. Thank vou.Mr. Chairman.
AdniiiTjl Tii*yi:TL
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Si'iuitor iN^iiYi.. Tluink vou ^rrv nnch. Adrniral TurTit-r. MKl'LTb'A suhpmi-Ti
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on
VXA,
rtnd tlii(
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of
MKTLTKA,
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thf
JiriTii.r
of
Vnlr:^
lutrlliirf^U'-r
wrote to
the tei'hnical
had of KSl' nn an unw inin;^' ha^i* ui l>r. Frank ( )1miu, who hiter comnntled suii'idi Now, till' hidiv idnaU rriii*i>:rd wi-r*- die ^wuw indi\ idual'* wfio win' p^sjujn'^ihh' for lhi^ suhproji^-t -1. invoU iup I'xnctly thi' ^nnc pracirf^. Kvrn thonpb t)n'Si' indn idnuls wvw i'Uail\ a wan- of the dunp*'r^ of surreptitious adunni*Iralif>n and ind Ivi-u orif ii-i^eil hv the l>i rector
.
stutT ofti-iiiU <ritt(t/.iup their jndpmi'nt itocnu'ie parti'-ipau-d in iUt e\JieT'inii'?n invnlvjn;^' t\w adnuuii^f ration
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35
of Crnlnil
Iti(rlU|r''n*-c. sijl|jr<ijirt
'*,
^viis
to dfn-niin-Til*. ii cfiniiuiicii foi n nuni^fr of years. Ctui yini |irnviilr tl^^ colninitliT nitli n*\\ i-xpliiiiiilioTi of Jiow such
Ill fjiiT. iirrnriliJi;;
i
Atljuii-.ii
S(ii:(or
ihr Ipchru'-iil service?; cniriedon subpifijcct -Jj^tiU uji lIn*('IA liiyn>]W Ailnjinil TrJixxir- I am sorry- Arr Vini askinp. ar*^ lliey lodny? SviKilor Imhyk. \\'^.
who
\*h\ura} TrNXHR, No. ?-ir. Soniiiiir IxoiYi:, Wliat woulil you ih' if you rritirized offirialp of the ifM'jinif'ul servings Pt;itf niifi tln'y oonnniu'd to airry on ^xiwrinientatjon fo] n ?iiimlter of yvars ? Ashijinil TriixxK. I woulti do two iliui:>, sir, Om* is, I would \w sinv nt flu- U^pniuMp tliut 1 was exjih^-i* vi?oiii:ft tiiat tbey km^w that 1 diilij'i Mni>T tljjit 111 J' rontiiiiiril i\uy wJii'ii' l)H^ ju) two. if 1 found it
U'iii^ I'Onrinm'-il. I would roll Mimr li'Hd>. Si^iator Jnoi ^^:. CoTild you provide this romMiifff with informntjou lis tft whctlipr tht^ individjiji)? iinoUed lind thpir Jjpjids roll^-d ?
Adiuii'Hl
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I ilou't
U'lii^Mi*
ilinv
i^
any
but
windoiiM<M!u*rk il^aL SV |J. 17(1 foj- (irrn^Tial Il'foiird !".] Si jiaior 1n<h Yi:. As y<iu know. S-uiifiir lludinc^tou and his suboomuiiftvi' iiri' diTply ihvuhc'd in (lir iliTiftitj^ n{ rhar1<*r? and piidflinef for ihr ijh'Hip'iri" <-ojiu]iutiiiy. AVi* will li' UM*fliup ^ith thf l'i"'sid*'nt
I
toiinnrow.
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think,
it
fl
husir
1h*
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(an
on-iir iipiiu
Admire] Tikneu.
rime'
in the
Wi' ntv
fifti('^,
Jill
think
wi>uld
be-
uiucli moil' cons^'iou^ of x\n-?n- issue? thiin \ve were haik s*oiid. U-oausi' vt- hnvp nieh thoroiicli oversipht piof^e-
chnr:^. 1 canirof
tod;*y without
inju^ini- ihat this kirjd of artivity could takr plnrp sonu- nLeniU>r of ihr itself i>ynas?inp nie, if I were
CIA
anthohzinfr fills, and wrilinjr to the Jiitilli^'cniv Oversi^lif BoArd, and blow i]iptl]p\vhjM Iron this kind of nclivify. I nni also doin^ njy vcrv Ix'st, sir, (o encournpe an oi>pnnes= with mvsolf nuil a free fouuitunirafion in tlie Ap'iicy. so (Jiai ] am the ftne whfk finds fhrso thin;:? if they should happen. The frt is fhftt we must ki'fpyou iiud your coiiunittee and now tht- new commit rpe in the House inf<nned of /mr sensitive activities, 1 think all of tlw-sc add up to n deprreof scrutiny such that thiskin<1 of extensive and fluprant activity could not hap]>eu to^liiy without it coming to the attention of tlie proper ituthoritie:^ to stop it. Seunlor Inovyk. Rad aspect of the pi-ojeet was that it naturally iuvolveil (lu> peojdo who unwirtinirly or wittinplv pot involved in ex|ierimentatioN- I would nppiv i:Lle it if you wonid j-eport l>ack to tliis eonnnitli-e in 'A monllis on whjit the Apeucy has done to notify thc'^' individusd- aiu^ tlu*sr institutions, ami fui-tlifrniore. to notify u^ as to wlint st''|j- lune Nen lnk"U to identify ^irtin^s. and if identified, wlml you have done to ftS':ist thetn. niouctiuily or otherwise,
MHTLTRA
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f<.iilil
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p\|n'n'"*'Ml> ilfi?n-oii ll*ri, riT<l wljHlji'tllri'v TC(^iv ^v in ]?/;,' ur umvining, v<i(iiin,-*T or muniilimh'i'f, nncl wlmt liiis iMrn tin- ivmiIt in rnrh cast\
I i}iiril< rlirir \v*u]<l lr
iT^trrestiup.
Srn:it(n
y^i'UuUii
IvnrvK.
Si'imloi'
Knnn-'h
Ky.xsyity. TUnnk you. iTis yonr inu-ut'iou fo notify tlK* inilivjOiiM^s w]u> ]uivf lnN'n Hir snlijt'ris of tl^- n-^:iV'l^ is thai ri;;hi. A<iuiintl Tiirnor-? I in von int<*n(J to notify tJif*^' imlividnnl?? A'linin*! Trh\Kir. Yes. S-niihn- KksntjiV- If yon r:ni identify tli^-n^, \i>n JTitmrl to noiifv
Mi*'in<
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Yf5. JN'nniiO- K>NNKnv. An<l you ]nlen>) lo notify ihi' nniversitiis or n*st>!ri fi I'l-nti'j*' US wi'H t A^lriiinil Trif>KE{. S'n:itnr. I niti torn on thut- T urnli-rvtan^l yoniojH'jMniT stHtrnn-ni. I put iny-rlf in thr popjiion of tljp |>vrM*lmf of onr of (hoM- niuvpi>itii's U'(V sny. ]f In- wen- wifiin^ if iiii^ nnivi'r=i(y Inn) lK-;ii witling of tlii"^ iniiviiy will* u,. !<- li* necoF^ to nl) thnl information to^lav- If hf won- nof wittin;:, 1 wojulor if Tlu> pro(*i"P- of informing Inni rni^Hit jnif lii^ iii^^TifinionV ivpnintion in niort' j^^opniily t]iun Wtin-r t)ifiii )ri*u\i t]ir wny thi-y jiir tod;iy. nor knowing, J jfnlly
n>;r-F.
il(n"t
A<1inrra1
Ti
k}iovv
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njniiii's lu'rc.
K>:NVK('V-W<'n,tlio ]>m>Ii1oiii is, nU von Inivo !oHi>i'Hpirk np tlio npWipMi>rr- t}ut\ run sc** (he.-Hp nnivrr-rlio> inrntion*^!. In ninry inFit nnii-. I think you ;\v\- pnttinir lln- univi-r-ify projiUri nn pxlrnorcliiijuy iii-^!i(lv;in(n;_n\ wlirn- lluTi' i- n t'oiuplrio etiiuim- of inliiiini^trntion. nn.l tlit-y niuy for mu- Tfjtstm ov niioi))(*r not Utwt* infonnntion that ilu'v nil' ninUr -u-pi<'ion. Thnv is iiniurnilo: Ihorr i? rnnior- I oflnnot \it']y hnt In-lii^vo tljnt it uill jn-f -rot sinpiircil nil over tJio iiow*:imj>pr in spile itf u]) l]tv sr^ennty Ptrp* lh:ti linvr lw>en f wken,
<;
SomU oi'
si^cin^tonu' llnif tlifiso nuiversitii-. ^bonlcj (m* enlitU-il tot 1ml inforni:tiin, so fljaf tlir ono^ with oMii^r rnliiiiuislriHion^ onn n^lnpt pixir*'tlim-'* to pron-** |Jh>A' nnivcrsitje-'. TJ:e jjnjiortanri' of pn^^orvinp llir inil4-)K'nil*niT of -rmr ivsenrrli nivH" nnd tin- i'ojnnuniilic<ii<*onisto nie to U^ n Yi'iy fmulinnoritnl kiihl of (|tn'-fion nJ^ont tlie piTilodion of the
II
of onr nitive]>ilirs ;^^^l] i>ur i-e?-ravi'h r**nier-. Ailniiral Tiijnkk. Yon an* >ayiii;: \}vM yon fepl that if we identify tln^io f>riMit('lytn tlujiwi-hi'-. \\i' rnn U'nvfil thcui in nn n^lofpr.ite wny to
intt't'riiy
lJn> will JhjiI ton njnre pulili^' di-elosnri'f There ni'^ lot> of Ifie Ml \\]ut iiEi^i" not iK't'n iili'ntitie*! jinhln-ly (it tlii^ i>ointSi'Tiiittn-K^wKov, 1 fliink t)ie niiivei>itt(*s tlieins^JvessliOuld l>enotifierl. I tliiiik llie)i tin' nni\eiviiir- inn take wlintever stei>s in terms of their ^'itin;: up tlir pr*H'ednre:; ti^ protit't iLeii- own kimts <f inle^rrJty in terni-i of ilie futrjTv, 1 ^Mnilil rertainly lnjM> that tliry wonld feel
rovei'tJn' risk
I
lint
llnjl
Hum- t^nOil niak^ a |inMJr cuninirnt or n pidilir staiement on it. i liunk it i^ iif ;:*'nernl j>nMii' intm-sf- patli^^nlaTly f'ntlie i)eoji}e thnt ore involveil in Tlo-e iiniversili*-'. to lji\** >nmv kimi of ;nvinvne^- of Trlietltei- tlsry wi-re u-^-A or weiv not n^nl and Jiow tljoy wei'p nsrd. jnil>lir 1 tlonli Ihev iwv enlilli-d to it. nn-l ipiilr frankly, if llnne ioffiriijl or nn'oflirinl of tJii- nni\er->ii\ thai yon jiotify nnd he wants
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MORI DocID: 163357
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for
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Jiis
tli<'-r
it
rrnsoii- not to Ijavr it }if Ion wlio ill lop-(i-ei'lirloii or l<i\vci r should not h\\\c llie inforniniioT u> wi-ll.
own i^aHimlnr
pnMio,
Unw
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t
wonM
nl-o iiidin.t(' tini^f-rsity i>eo]>le nt not Ix' put onl ill tlu- no^^>p:M '- ='^<1 i' 1'^^'^ '**^ some of it is wron;:. an exiinordiiisn V disitdvinituire, and of <f.nr^ Mm.j- univriEily fficj;d whic^h is thr fnrt of ti.e maft-'r, ni.d I Ibink tln^y k """>( js ronsnvin-. wHl, it i^n-t so. i? n 1"! .Urh'ivnl tl.T. if
von wonld TM.tjfv llu^ imivrrHfios and then witl to Wn- \mhhr. 1 cnn"l nmmve fliat tlnt^ inforniatjon
Im-ik-
tlml
Ap'nry
iisi-lf. 1
llimk
tliat
i
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wuh wlinl von are ^nyinp. Ailn.iral JviisyM. 1 ii:ivr *riViil -vini-^.tl^y inMitul ion lieniiis*- tli<^ involvement T^as I Imn' aln^dv notitivd one l^rotert them^lvec ad extensive that 1 tlionjrlit they i^nlly nr.-d.M to whoever wny wil help all of the 1 am most flnxion< to An ihi^ in in this, and the neonle \v1jo ivere nerliuiis ninvittin^r pnrtK ipaiits wlM yon suffpe^led, cnltv I will hnve is, I enn t <iniie d<>, I think. extent and nature of that I mny not be able to toll nn institution of the
mm-
itsi^nrticination.
thtni 1o the bost of your inSenator Kv-wPY. or an foimnlion. nnd it .^ms to inr th.M ,iiNt lHTaii>e the uiuvemty for clatsifvinp individnnl i- poinir to In- i'iiibnrn--<'d i> not ji mison 1 tn*!in. I obvion-ly speak as an t\w inf-^rmnti^n. So. 1 \\'*n].\ li.pi (h:il that i-^ an incredible di^MTvire to iIl<U^ idufll S<-jia(or, bnt 1 f.4'1 di^eivirr to the intec-rity of the innoreni individiud^ nnd. 1 ibnik. n nonlird, to Ih> able to develop prothi' univri-inr^ nuW-^ rhi-v nnyonr own inf^titotion and cedure^ von niv drvMopiri^r with Jv;r:^ld^ io universities we are tVyin;! to in ieini> <.f lU- Con-ii-, I eiliiinly fli*^
^V*!!.
von rnn
toll
an-entith'-d to tlie*^:iine.
Adinirid IrnvKa. \i>. Not all of rln ^ , of eoniso. wire unwittinp, Srnntoi KK\MJv.Tb:irMiLdiT, , , ^i M-niv of \Ur\n w*tv wiltin;:. and tlioreforr they \.bnind Tirnikperfertly enn take all tbo^e pnTJinlionai v >(eps on ihvir own, bnt 1 am when oivn l.> doiiijr tlii-.. 1 nin onlv intrr^-sf..! in diun;: it in a way that of the idrntifvinjr n nniverilv it will not Irud tolhi> imblir ib^losure
1
inilividu:iK.
\cliniral
will -** if w,' cno d.-visr a way of notifvinj: mnke their thcH- ii]'^titinion> on a |niv:itv b:M- -^ thai thi-y ran tb**n lePl s*>rvrd by th-'ir annonncottii decision wlH-Hier thrii r*initiv^ it in^'il pnblirU- nr thrir :itlt'iopiin;r i"^ iii:nul!im
wbnm
am
iof
TrKM:K.
Sci.
wr
uv
y'>iu 1
wondn. WU-M
if
*i - t ron-'ii^ncv. Mr, at tbw time i? tlint ! i>c'w.iod Adndnd TriiNKii, iiotjti^^d tlo l""!';!!;"' vvc.nl.! br doin- ^1 di-si'iw lo ib.-^- nmvn'siHr''^ if 1 KivvrnY, IWurld von meet wrtli ^nine iiiuveVFilv offirinis
Mv
S.-ti:l.iv
pi-e^^iva\\mv view^ are or ^^Uthi'v tln^v fe.^l thm the Wtier served ornotr tion of the inlemitvof tho nnivcisinr- wmdd Ik^ f nm. Mn;i1h lariri-. private, and 1 think thnt would Ik- ns,^f id to find om
and a^k
^^]u^t
Ihrv vn-w tbr inlirnty-^ presidents Admiral 1"i hnku. Fine. 1 will pbom- ^evend nnivei-itv (In-, and ask t^Mbiv who inv niv friemU an.l wh.. mv m>( invohed would U'. tln-ni wJijjt ibi'v think lb^e^n^til'^
how
38
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rijlif.
1
Von
lot
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is
k
I
nny
(rrrnt
i.i 111
ill
Tuy iiotif\
JTT;: tlu-
S*-u:il<jrK>vvfj.v. '^'i'-. I'iii' Tut \vnulil ivuinin lli;ii th^ iiislitulioirs ^n-diliHity avokM U' U-H*'!- -n v<-,1 if iIm- iiiMinni'Hi'- I'M'-iilonr wqu- io
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it
iMiil til*'
Hhivf'isiiy in.lH:jli'(! tli,i it *ii*i ivit |i:iMi.i|^i*' in that if tl' nnivrr-ii V wi-tp To ilnn- il jtml lljr Au'f*i"v savs
ii]'
liiiit
flijii
only
u;n
t||:iT
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In
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chibM''.
wnuM
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inn\
civil
ii'v
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/
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prrM^i'viiiion of tin* inlcijiify of fhr ijniv4"i>jtii*-. J-i'T u\'\ if 1 foiiVJ. iiik on tln' <)tK-ii<jn of tlic ii-t'?- of tlu'-i* pafp jjon-i's. u> I nncl'TMiirnt froTu infnnn-'ihon tluti wn^ |irovicl<i| to us in llii- c'onr-c of onr iRst i-onnniTiM-. tin- (i-sTin;: of variondm;:*; on in<livi.in:iN hnpjH'ju'it a! ;i)l soiijl Ifv4'l>. h\i;]t uml htw, il )ni|i|>t-nc<l on
iln"
in hTJii-
of
n:i(iw ATNt'iintn- and nKooTi fon'i::h n^^ion!^J^, Tli:if i*- wh:U 1 ujiderstan.l wjt-ilii'nuniivof llir projd iiMlf. Now. ] mu jn.-il Monrfrrini: w]jpi)ii'r iliOM't^*^N ivoi'onmilnHpd af the l\v,i ^^h'jition- on thi' j^mm ,t,i\^i nmT Tl*' wrsl i-oasl \\hir]i w.-rt- known H'* y!if<' Imn-c-. To yont' knowlcfl;:*-. i< thai lorrivt ? Ailniin^l Ti i;\n;. Vr-. S't^-ifoj- KrxMHv. I) tPrnj- of tln^ rr%4-nMi in tin- pnniruJar propi jnn.
til**
\oii,l !?ir
1 iin^
^jifi--
fiiitKi'^kortitnl
on
tlnTii-^l rowsi
and
rflTi-
west
rojisT
? 1
U-licvi*
i:,
.oru'-'t
on
t)i:it,
A'lniir:i|
'IrnM
Tftijt
of
(lonily
-i*l<"i'ii'(i
SrnuioT Kkwjjiv.
uvo
11101*0-?
Ailninal Txi:n>i:/1'u
Si'U;>Toj-
Ih-t
of onr
Ur(ovli'd;r<^ tb**n'
w^rvonlj- two
Ki:\\).n^, 'W.-IT. Jmw ifo wp inforpn-f nnnloniTy >f!iTto(l* AOiiiir:l T riiM t:. Wi'l). n- i.pjHwil tn |irift*>nr*^ i[i n pri^um vjio worr
S<'n:toi-
li<wnjnny jnoph'\M*rr
Ailinit:il
V
Si't*:i.Tni
uI>jT"\ini!Uph
Adnjiral Ti'Kxn;. ] ii^kr.l iIt.h jjUf-lion tlj** iilljt>r dnv. nnd wo JTftt lioifi havi ai^i'in-i'ntty wi' an> very wtA). riUirr tl^Ti^ wpro no ivrnnU ki'jit of x]w :ii-Hui1 nnrnU'r- nn^l ^V|h- of |h'o[-Ii" ir>?*'tl ur (lu\v
S*n:itov Srlnvi-ikri. ftn:itnr S^ll^v^.n^^;l^ Thjjnk yon, ^Ii\ Clinirniiin, A<tiniiji1 TurntT. 1 would likf to ifnhr Imck to (In- e\|orinionts whirh may linvr Iw-f-n *-niuhhti'<l ^t ihr bn-piiaJ r^^prinvli fat'ilitirF winrli tinlu'lpi-d lo finnni'i'. li \v;iin"T rl**nr 10 nn- fn>ni yonr prr*vioi]^ an-wi-rs ^vli:ii kind of work wjj> donr f iiori-. 1 jr:if Itor von arf iin-
CIA
iv*in vinii- n'nmrk?*, yet 1 titid in xho CIA doonnu'tihitifn' wliirJi y^ui hsw^ ^^npi'lir'd n-, n Tivt di-^oriliini: sonir of the Mdvintft;ri'^ \hv A'^nu-y lio|>rd Toi:nin. It -;iy-ch'iiv cin dial. i<^^. ia
s
OiM' sixfli nf
he-
nvw
hi>spifnl
whit will
l*e
a*;iUaI>lp to thp
MORI DocID: 163357
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prcSwctp Kill * t^.tiii-l^tt-fy detiiftr>Ii'; ir) FiilT |tr.T*wioDal c<ver wtlJ be proT-id^ for Ml' I't MirrO IpJpm In'iuii-nl i"ii.ii]'0#e'' nf tlir f*Jjpj|)irnl Divi'-i/tji jrfp Human
;
I
1
cliD^ijI rroidrfitm^
Tt
I4-
ivailaliJe
under controlti^
li
f
-'rin>
pn-t> liriir
iculiir
\\ ill;:.
lipv|!iviiti'ins,
wUax llicy iiili-mK-d to i]<i in that pnrI J^k'-ji'i it ta you Wliv vv<ntli[ you jjo to mk-Ii pliWioiat*' |ri Imy jiiiit of flio \vi(i;r, liiiiip ihr** of your own pert*> iin'
'.
pciiiLc]
F
ilii'M',
^ivr
n covrr, nnl ffivt^ iIk'hl ncr^-^s to jjnlients? jro to ^-jK^Ii (niiihic firul ("xpniT-f* to nnnn^''p nil tliat, if
ilu-rji
wcn'u't |0;otiuiiir to
i'\[K'riiiK'rit
on
jxxrplt- in
rJic*
Jio^pilat
A^liniijl Tm{\k, ] njrnv willi yoij I'Ni p''h'<^nt, sir. TJioh' \v**re rlc:uly Mjr tnlfiri ioji-. I }i!i\*' tio f'vjilrnii- tljnt 1! wjj^ i-itrrinil onT ii> Ihiit wjiy. 1 orii ioi trying: to ) clrffm-iv*^. Spnnfr. 1 only trying U> lu' nlis(^liiTrly pj'rTJM' h\-rv.
am
>
SrEiwKjKKC. \\\-\]. xhi-n. n= fo tin- nnfiin- of vrhut ^Ta- donr' fhi'rv, tilt InH jjuni^njpli on liji- ^nmp pni'i- of tin* doriinn^iit snys. "TJr fmulin^-. of i1k ln>spitii] nn'! the aMlity to conrfiict confroljo<l o\}>.'rijm'niiti<iii- un'Jrr ^^nfo cliniinl rontlition? iisinc mal^rials with whiili any apriny coniit-rtion must l)o ronipl^Hy <lpiiiH}]e will augment an<I coih|)oio(-nr oiLor pro^niins t^cently token over by TSS. siuli rt*;," niui rJieii thrn'- aTiotht-r <1pl<>tlon. Nr>\'\ tin- HOI J- followintr ''^urli flft" Jinvp l*ppn fleletpd. That is still
Si^rijiinr
wlion thi> tlo^^nrnpnt whs sanitized jnnl n']''ii-i'J. It M-rnis to In- ih;jt wlj.itever vrn^ tM^tt^l r'lfzhx there would Civt' yau a prnity poi**? 'O^e as to wh-M they were doin^- since it says tJiaT }h*- jK'tivitii^- wonlil "an^iurnt aj^d ronipJeinrnt otlicr propninis" }*nJriljiIii'n hy Tt^>^, S<i. 1 havt^ tt^uhh' nncjcr-ianiling why you don't know wiuH \\a- lontmi/iliitrd. Just tin- fmi that similar pi-ofrnms are ref^irJ to in tlo doimupnt. thrtuph whiit th<y are is still deleted. shouM ejiiihlk- \'<i\i tiJ (hvrk it out. You rould hrtik at what wvut on in the Hinilar i>ropram5i mentioned followiu;: iln' "^ui'h h^" in i\w rhi^s^itipd v^^r^ion 01 thi- do^-uuient.
rh*-sitir^d. oi- at \fust It \vn6 n-nrovpil
Ailuiinil Ti
i:\t:i:.
Srujihir.
U:\vt'
not
s;ii*l
that
WH^
AVe
d<i
not
thciv-
SiMviikKr;- lV}iy did yon di-Vto thnt ivferenre? "Why h tlirit ttid rl-riti*'il, that piU^ii^ulMr projrt't of whjjtevn- it is ^ _\(huirrd Tx ^^>:J^ ) Attui kn<u l}ji^ pari imhu *'!(sr. UV will lift you il>'' **\nri !ini'r 10 tli:n niif and infiutu you al^nu it, hut ii is fpiir*' prol>:ilii*' ihal l!jiit oUut tjim- J- nnn'hurt* h* Thi> in I hi wpIL i>o! nnSi'iui'or
nOninl, hut thai t!i:il wjis a piojvrt tlial [Tlie material refenpd to follows:]
Contniori'pn
*'t
still ih'SiTvps
to
Ik*
ehissJHed.
h-'C"" i" 10.17 and rh<* Anne?; wn^ ilMlir,.Uvl ih Miinl. yXtU. of iii^ ..ri^njl |l^OP^l^ <"cmclintPtl at tJi^in^'dirtii *'U]} "\iv iiiviihiiii: liniiuUL It^-Htiii;: tmf rui n (likir spiLii nul-^n3UfiK
ih*'
Cnnuan Auw\
J.-,
^rft^
MKM,THA
ji.
M;inli
tliKir
V.^'At
S\,\.],T.-)t-n
r,-in
rr-ii^
n*.V>
liwiri.
rlMi-^
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ih-.\X
fmir >i"ar> *lUTiU nL't. ,if ili- Miri]*riVi t nniUl liJk^*- Ih>*'II n|H"(if In Ibp iMnimii Ajiij<\, H<mi-vtT. thiTP is no rt'fi'rfjiii* to Ihp GiTiHJiii Adhph or a |H" Aniirs" hi Suhiiri'Vc-i ^r* i.jijht^. iieiUitr l^ rih-re iin> mpuUim at tlip ftul*Th'
AiUlMprinnm^ to
AiiiH\
LUiUt-:il
J*.
t'll
r4m)ilpuf.' i'lA f li*H:irJ <'<>U*itni tlon of Ihp GorinaiL 'nriiHrri.fl iu S>\\.irt.}f*rt X "f MKl'LTIfA UprHUly di^i.vprpd aiarprifll Tlijif l*r. itt^t'liirkliT nMHiiitii'il hi* ri^t^in'h f'T ii|fp|- jiiiil aiiiii^a'tr'ii'-'
lif..4biH iriL'
iiiicl.T
ri'p.if^-T
MKSKAltrir
ihi}><ssiMtt4>
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Ann
MORI DOCID;
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40
SrimNir SruMKiurn.
AVnpiiii-^rl
t
T t}jfnk tlint
il'ii>o
jit
ifi*'' <i^
tljt'
CIA
finsn^.
Hn>
irnli-'Jiiion
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1])^
n-i'nj*!^
ti'j
iiltjiiijjitly
um'iI
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iriii>
or
iniiiiilly
pationt? in
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d'H'^u'i
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it>
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it
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or
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in tljai
iiiiir^-riiil
rrfi'nvcl hi.
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|.ri>jrriI r
|>niiirn)Hi
iinolvrEl f\|K-i']nii>Tiianoi7
on
tcr-
liHXMi.
nii-M\J
Ww
first
pari
f^f
vour cjuoMion,
sir. I
an
S^'hjih*!- S<
linvt* ariv
ill
in
\W
rlnr fr^rn oUirr dotuini'TiN tJiiil Hu'**!' Mm'K f'f i"\|n^Tirni'nt^ wf^i'^- at sonir p*iinl lioin;; diint* sfj|iicw!i<Ti". (|TM-tto[i i-, i^ Ui^'jf nny iuiUrjitjon tli:it i'Hn*'rr |ntiriifs or frrrtiinrdh iM jMifrTM- wi^vf \'\\w\\\\\i-\\\^A with in tlii- wiii;;^
ilr>
Von
;m kn<^\\
My
ihn> np|>.'jir lliriv rouji^riion lrr-. ^^ir. SetniiDr Si Hwrntni. Thi- olhcr qm^Hioii ] IkhI i*'I:H*>- U\ \\\\> iJrvv^Jnj.iuriii nf xHiH-fliii];! vvlurli \\\%^ \w^\\ rallinl \\\k^ ]n^rfi'r| roncu^siou. A Mi'ii'^ of A)M'riTu*'TiN tounnl fluit v\\\\ wrir ili**'rilh'*l in tlic CIA iJ^i'iiriM-n'-, 1 uomlrr if voir Wfnild \\\?x wW w^ \\\y.\\ yoijj iiii(i{'i>tnmlin;: of jHrfiTi rojiru^tiion J-=. Ailniirnl TiiiNhii. I-^ thnt in iijy toMimojiy, Fir. or in soinn other
il
i.-;
Ailijiirn)
TrKMj\
Ye-,
(I'H'nuM'ui
SiMjifoi
S. ir^vKiKiJi. SuK|wojr*'f
;-J,
MKrLTRA.
winch invohof*
r\:njMij:niiiri
tu rjm--** hr:riti 'nn!w^'i<)n'' \\\\<\ wnwwi'Wx h\ 11-in^' n-rjipr)ri< or jioinnl wnvf'p U\ lifrik*' in^ivi*bi.'>l<^ ^^'itl^o^^t pninp wnrinjj;; \\\m\ witJiom Waving' any oh^ir physirnl infirk-^. Sninpom^
iiv}iiir'|Hr*
il
of
fhihlh'ii
pfirt
"prfrr'i
iiiTiiU'-'-iiHi"
iiiayU'
t?in!
wns
|HK*iii' lin'tiM\
on the
if
\
nf
riiir ^tjiff
riilher thnii
your
vnn<Jpr
j'on
oouM
jn-t tr]l w^ vc\\\\X hrain roiiru"i'>ion expfrirreTit?- v^i'xc^ nhorjf \*\n\\r\\y TiKWi?, TIwt^ ;^]prK No. M, wa- rm**fl.-it. ami
novnr
oin. Si'iuMor S'liwKiKrii- "WrlL ] Ho le^i(Me Jhr firM yenr of iho urojorl in JfC". \\\\^ rjn rri'il oul hy ihe Oftii f of \rtv:il Ki-M-nnh, inTonlin;: to the informal ioTi ih:u yon >it)>|i1in1 uF-TlieClA so<!n- to itH\ e hren jmrrjirrii'il
lii:ii
n-roMl- co on
^v!^s
ti>
>ny
(INH
mill
CIAV
fln
roh'. dis^-overed
\\iis
:i
<"nvi-i\
then
^IK^I.TI^\
Iinve ;rivcn
\\\
V.K^\\. .\s:iiin,
it
Tiv^
So,
nns
not i)i-;;i'eomp
41
s
n year or t\vo- somt^tuxly was inv<->ii;!;itnj;: ihi' ii''hJiM'no!i of I>niri romus>^iiiiis uilli sim^cihI blackjnrl^-, Miinni \\jivr.>, j\m\ o\h^v nn'iln"U aa drlailnl in tlic backup
Kix]t t]aK
i>Ti
Jii>]jin^iii!y
tny Of
I*^n^t
iifVM fiimlrd hy ijif'irmjnlfih for the n'coid f^r yon us tf whetluT thMv was ever any counn^tinn horc and if ^a what the not^n-of the work wa??[Til"' luntn iai referred to fon<nv> :]
Mr.
I^iiliiiic^r
Rvniljihlc to tuc is tliat this projprt waf> th('<~lA.hM( I will d iubl''-rln'ck that and furnisli the
<lnfii
pomvted
ilitrlnp
\h^
has pot a ratt^ stensalioBaJ projiosal in tlierp, In iiTii^s of ihv ^<*rk that tb^j pr*>i*iH*" to do. and y"" n'^kod atmut (bf |itv(>os^1 nua I vjilil. iu fac, ir itas n*'*<'r firr^flwl oi^lf^r MKlKTHA N-m, J ovrrlcK>krilat lt^.1^1. niy Hn'iNorj' did ni serve jiie mrrwll^- wlirn T wui thnnich that flli- fold<*r io srt- i.iK* iiieiiK^nniduui daii^l .Irtaunrv lo. IIKW. whirh makes i( ignite clear n*: a iimii^r or fact, that tliat proposal wqs baaed uit prior irork tbai uas funded hy
-M !
W.
Jt
thf
.\peiM'3\
Si'imtnr SiiiwKiKEii.
By
whttl?
Mt. 1,A^BI^M:^
did n"i hiipi->h
ar*;iie.l iif
siHriitf*
By
}>#
wtt
in their
file
Wder.
It
in Djy head wh*ii 1 fe*tifil. Sfu:Li<ir Si n^^KiKEK I ibiiik 1 inifht havf rend
ih* fUi.t-
with
it
,v<m, I>^caiis4>
Think
(here, 1 did read ihal to you. So, did >iU]t]ily it l<i n^ lliiTf^ \-i 111! arpuiiiohl nlxiur Ihal Infonitilfimi. -Mr I.Ai Br^<;^:K. iVrbnp* 1 ant ^nrt f>r headsrr'^n;:. mypelf, oid in my own t^^h I arij rt-:ii]]j>c inxler Tht- VT.TKA projtH'L thai if il hnd l>^rn fmidetl under llJItA. ji wimld hflvp IkhI fi jiroj-ct niimlx^ and Ideiitifivd os uch. The rhiuc rhnf Thn-H ini* vh^ Ihnr \1 wa-- fnjide<l. iijifuireiin> onisidc of atij MKn.TIlA jiriiviTy nnil ii undrr the nrtrmal rnnfrartinp jirrire^s, *i that it wns nnt Lur|iiJ<-<i in MKVJ^TKA as any \sork clune iin-h^r ihnf fntidjiii: nnilirelta. Tilt' lilt' fipM^r thai yttit atrd I htt^v. n^ilji Ji^rp. niakiw jf r|Mli' rlrar, hri\M"rr. Uijit a yi'urs work was d*ne thrinifth navy fimrtinir s navy funOint" niiih-iiii'-ni nil which tin* proiHiK,-!! wns iKi-'i'd tha( ulttmniely ramp inro fh<MKri/ntA itnit'PUJii. That iu4v>nd pro|-*aI vras nevrr fimd/rt. So, there mi^ i-i>nflirj nnd 1. ii*r'onalIy, 1 think, intrndnewl a litlle hit of confintirin in that in liiy Tf^liinmiy. s**na(-p s* imv*jk#:r. Weil, do yon npree or nor wrree xrllh IWD'p BtflltieDi ht'n- rhni evrn TJiioijrh fh* initial r^indiu^- was navy. i\ was really a conduil for
)}}f1icaiiriM
rl;aT
wav
fiind'-il
^u
wm
haw
(he I'lA?
Mr
Lai
^tM3fji. I
think that
Ik rorreot.
Sfn-itni- SrirvKiKFit.
Ye^;
kiFou ht>w
ii'-'K
if
^^rllt ti^ttu
wmdd np|m'rin*e t}int, I would lik*' tn ON H to CIA nftrin yej*t. S>tnrli*Hlv min\r
I
ii
Iriui-fn-.
nuA
to liud^x
ittin)
tlii- :in
MKfLTKA
t<i
ji
"-oli-
Tfirn-
h;ii\
to ! soiiir
it
'H*iri
'vmlinmmill
t)i!(t
of rrvN-w
tliaf
h'd
drii.-ion to
t<**iiij;;.
hkj.kotiL
iii:L\liiitNM atiitn^j^ifi.
ycn^ w<'iv liiffU'>rrd in ^^tiidv ntid Sniiitiir. if 1 ntuy try tf" ^iiy ji ivw won]'avfiil;iliU'
was
on thai,
to os iov
iii-ioi'ii<iiK
lliiliriHi^d thill
1o
rsl
wild
\\n> w \moy-k-X tioiu^ rsirrioil he ellVrly; of hr;nii roiu'Ux-ioti. Tiic (*IA dcv('lii|n'd :ui irUi'Vj-onsi<?4*f-i-.|
ihm'
in llwt. niuf
f|j>idn:! il.
tin-jidnntid n-tilu-ij. iho i> ineivh .1 fiindin;: iiivih:ini-uia id;ii-i* thoy ^< for njoi>ry In do ^lU'li thin;,";, hnt lin'iv t- im e\ iilencp thil 1 JiJiww of tiiat t]iat projni wjis evrr fnndeih
MHTLTKA
42
S<>ii:Mni Si'invi iKKir. ^\t*^\. I niti onnfii^^.h l^omii'^o wluili otluT .[Mr^h- fpuni !i iW>'MiMriil tliiU %vi- hiWi' sc^TK
Irrt-i'il
\
how
a;riiin is nti-
von
lijnc re-
-Tiiii-Jii'il ti MJ*:
i-^
r.il|.^viMi;
111*' rpcliiii'-nl
prc>pnss
mode umhr
uu
ri^ijv
:
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>ij"-rinlin-.l
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d.-^*'lMiio.l
<.Mnin
;.r>
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d}uamic- ilafn
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l-Tvli
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fl'l"i'i"i
f^r a flJuU-fiUed
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1
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iririliiiiilv M-riii-
in earlier in refovrin;: to tlocuan- .i.iolinp froiii a proiwfeal iiiri.t- iml lK.f<.n. u^. l.iit 1 briicv.- voii refci rni2 -a.i.ii-oTi.. to llic Apcii'v t'. fiiii.I tl.H wtiik. Blul !.. IS
I
Mr
mv
piittinj;
tl.<-
sfiim- )>o?ition
wrie
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n lot of ttun;:<.ik. 'Hi.' pa-t .ivk "-...iM iii.vo piiroi.ii.a'sc.l lik.lhai.l.m CIA wa, ii.it iiiv.ilve.lwillithat ]>a-r Oof >oin AVl.iil .lo v-.u m<-ni.. Admiral, on
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HS to liow 10 slip the mickey mlvi-ri-^ ln-rc t<. roiiimciU. Senator, ll ..- M.rrcptitioii.
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of i-.\p*'iiiin"mniioii?
MORI DocID:
163357
\-
43
A(l(nir;il
TiKVEn. Yes
rJjantHrr
fjjvit*
I think tln-iT
is.
hnve nof
Mvn
think
in Ihis series
tlie
>
of
ilcHiiiiHriUitiiJij evjilrirrc
nf
project
it
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n (h'fon-ivc lo nn
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mu]
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w J'"
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ArfjiiiiiilTi'HNKR. Tlint isniy nnilpi^tandin^, Yefi. sir, Si'jiahM' Tfii^ni.FSTi'X, Ta tht^re nnv imlirntion thai knowlpd^je c^iTi^^d a^ a rrsnlt of tlnso exix^riiiiPiifP has be*'n useful or is beinp ajjplied in nnv wnv tct jiu**t'nT oi>c*rations? Mi\Ilii'nv, S<>ri.Tf"r. 1 anniot surr if thnrp is any l>0(!y of knowledpr. pn-iit ih'jil of whnt thorp \va>., 1 pailipr, was lU-^lJoved in 197:1. I wo)ili| lik<*lfidi"fi'rtoFrnnklioiP. Dovoiiknntt of any? Ml: )-AiiiiV(=EB, I know of nodnicrs or anytliin;! like that developed wnd'j- (J(is piojzTMti thixt ever rparh'd I'peraiiniial usp or arr in use
lodav.
Senator HiTnLT:sToN, So appareiitly any information that v^as pathpred wns n]>pnrpntly iis<*Ipss and not worth continuing, not worth fiutlierih'vetopnient on tlip part of the AffpnovMr. L.\i'nT\fiETi. 1 am iMviu^ditfKijlry lira riurvnur questions. SpnatoI'III'I>rn,^>To^^ 1 ran hnrdly hparnnsolf. AdnornlTiRNFii. I think the answer to vonr question i that we have nn pvidencp of proat nsefnhn's- on this, and yet I llunk we should
renipmlK-r
Senator 1 1 TT>nLF<Tov.lVelh is it amirate tosny tljat this experimentation pnwhired few uM^ful rpsiilis or hal litllr application at all to the oiiprnlioniicif till' A;:pucv or anyiwidy oIr' n^ far as \ve know? AdrnrnT Tihnfh, I tliink tluit i^ ha-iraHv correct. At the tame time. T ironld point oni that w** had two riA pri^^onorc in China and one in the Soviet Vnkm at tlii^ tinn-. and we were conrerned as to what kinds of thinp- niipljt 1h done to them, l>nt I am not sayinp that Sennlr Hrimi.KSToN. Havr you dctoiird any sipn thnt anv other nation is eontiimiup or h-.t'^ in ihf pa-f condnrtcd ex|>erinient?i similar to
thisor\vitlMi?^innhtro)>jertivp? Admiral Tibxf-h. 1 am not prepared to answer that one off the top of mvhpad. ht. luii I will ^jet it toyou. IThc uifttpriiil nfernd to follows:]
^
>nf<*rmrtrif*n nn the tesliiu: of drupi* io Tpnr>j iip^^ Wc oerfl!':i"nntly fimilrl review ttir^lp^i re?-earf"h fnri'it'i i-^uniri*"" S^nnr on /tiFiiPiM|ji> uiu\ |jhrifNm*-PitiraW in mimrt-iiiin wltli imiKUc lifulili nrnl i-ivil Oefi'iiM' i^^%<">irbHri(*.. Fcir a ft-ys- years ln-citjiiinc in \i*^*.' > nitsesstHi forerpj
niaifU.TiTj
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fp'H'jirrli
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1*11
We
nf iir-fo-dntp
LSI*
tniiirr
mitfliJ
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ennreni tbai Mich ffaiTi*Jl Acp'^v antl nrher V.R fierwnnH. ltf*>rcnflti'*n already |<wu ipnvii!M if> reieTjint CotnmHfeen. In this
l*H'nuTi^ of
;
I'Fnjwt
ARTirilOKK
nn'nsjftMrtUy l.iok<wJ ni forr'isni hmnnh eip^riJiienfflUoji w** i-r li'ilitiiii:* oh This smi.iwi And no roilertlon miiilrpmenr?^ liihk: ncn Mimiii:UiHT ftrr iit'r ImJirer j*rrvpil. A** 001*11 ij'r jjfer#;i jji Ibi'' nreji linx dni|>)w*i1 off and hiijUor i*riiiriiv nrrn*^ need ntrenti'-ii, ap hnif ^irninlly nn |irpi*eiiT eorera^e \vi)h riiP- pns^ii!.!.' esrp|tion of oji oci-n^ji-piinl M-niiiiiiic nf Uio nternlurr for a M^^ciflr vr"LT:iru Tn tlie J-e^r nf nnr krmwlwlffp nn othpr unit Jo th*' InteUteenre i'ojnnnnih> ip irnckitij: ihis subjoPi now
fur]}
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MORI DocID:
163357
44
Srn,ifcT Ihn>i>LKST*>N. You Hon't know Mljetlicr any of vour a^ntfi Hiivi\|jciv in \\w \\kn\K\ have bent ^^iihiivtc^l to aiiv kind ik mocedurc
likcthi>?
Adijuviil
***-p;irrh
ill
'
vos.
man
pfetly skHchy, the information we have, Sna^or UnHii.Ksn.N-. Do yon krifiw of any other orfzftnization in this ronniiy or ny institution \\\aX has PondnVted r.\ton<iive research on unwittiii;: individuals nd through unwitting; instiintion''? Adniinil Trn\rK. AVeJI, I have read fonietldn^ in the newspapers nlninJ ihi-. hut 1 hrne not faniiliari^-ed myself ^lith it in ?pe<'ificfi. Senator Hrni>i.>ni\. Ii is not a normal mode of operation for huIt is
Adiniral Tt rnfr.
rescMTvh.
i^^
it?
sir. 1
am
not,
drew that inference pnrtly in nncwer to my f]uej^tinn that you knew of no (rutlj serum. ^Inyl>p that j- a misnomer, but *;nrt'ly Www nrr Tvlaxmit-^ thiU muke ton^Mn> ]ofl^^^ tlian lliey would
T
Sennfor AVatt/ip.
othorwise
that true? .Xdinir.il TrHN'VJi. Ye^. Si-nator AVxru^r. S<i 1 think it ip fair to &ay. too, that the experienr^e of iiifiny Anerir-nn piisonei-5: of war in (lie Kotvnn conflict wonld indii-ate that there are l)ehavior modifiefltion pnteedure:^ in use by foniini powers of a fnirly advanced de;rree of so]dustieation. Achnirnl Tttinfk. Yes.sir. Si^rjato) \VAi.j,rr. Affain. T will jnsf po back and say I thiuk this mu-^t hnve leen pjirl of the motivation. T don't think yon wonld have
Ik-. Tsii't
nnniioiu'd Canlinal Mind-/entv hnd yon (linu^rht hi> liehavior was nonnal t thf' time or had anyl>ody else. So, I would juM acain Ny T think it is n little bit peft]x^;:oatiinr, I don't think the object of this heiniuq is in nnv way to Iny hlnine on (ho^ pn^^ed or tho?^ desd or oth'Twi-r. )iut T think it i-^ a Httlr hit sraj>riroatitifr to sav thV '* st'j|ip,'d with the dii'ertors of the CIA or the DCT's of the time. AIw> I think it i^; a IWtle hit senpe^ontinp to say they didn't even know it. hnt thnt it was some lower erhelon netinc alone. T think thi< wa* n l>ehnvicir i>nltern that was prevalent in those ypjn-v, and I think the ohieet le--ou is t?ial we linve diseovi^red- we think an'1 we hojK*. thronLdi ycww a^.i^uran'^e't find other arfivities of thi' Conirnss. nieans of nvojilin;: fntnre ineidents of tliat kind. T thank yon^Ntr. riiainnnu.
Senator 7\nrTK. .Senator ThHfee? SemitnrCnAKKr. Koqnrstions, Senator Imh yk. Senator Kennedy.
Question.
45
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overall a^.'^ni. Mr. iiuitliili. ]i:j* iniLii:iti.| ;i fu/^^^y |jvjiin>y jtlxiTif iJiis wijolo an-a. Up hii- fi-Trfif'J td'foTi' fill- InTrUi^j.Miv ("iHiirdilU'O. \ot lie wasi n-sponsil.]. fcii lii.^ wiKU' pii::Kini. J'jicn, i}ie J*iri(lo- Juid iiHliralml thr <[e.-rrn'-iifirf "f tin- vatinns maU'riiiU oml uiifaiiiiliai'ity with the
hii^ ii^ri il<-ii'iiMsI for- J \i.'M>.
The
pmii'ii.
Nn\yoJi
ijiMiiiiitj.n
iTjni" iinlriat*-Ll in
a^^^ni> on \>;\-:v tiif r\\.. inliJii niun\ i\'^K ni" wliit'li \o!i linvt' nnmv<T<'il at tbr boMom of il. -Aitil yoM >;iy. tin- i:ini*'* if (*I.\ offii iiil<. wlio ii)*]frnv('(l or nioiniorec!
tlir viii'iiin- jiMijcir-,
Iprvi
youi'U'i-tiiuoTiy to<hy that Miere are two U of your irr-liinony. yon inrticate*! theif
\<,u
Mik
jiltout
111-
iwu
ad<iitic.niil
agents in your-
in^onv.
xAojiilfrin;: if
inteju? to inter-view those a^renfs \v|i:n i- U'liii: i^onr. I sniiposi. HrM of alL slkf>ii1dii't
y^m
prujrc-r iiiifiiairrr
knou
\x\uit
tit-i
wiisIm
ifi;<lorie
Onr
tiihl
wr
hiive been
an
In
names
at this |K>int,
We
arr
-till [>nrio\viji;:
We haven't
know
1
idenli-
U^cn
<'l
einj>7*y*v>. an^l
wo
'livn't
^rhether
it?
wrre
fnl.'ir ninoi'-,
-S'liJiior
IvrNMov. Vou
that d"wii. n=
understand
A'huinil Tih\i:j:,
^"i*>. sir.
Senaror K>:nmi>v. Yon an- tnn-kini' that down, and yon Jiave every intontimi of ijMt^rs i"\vin^ t)iiw jwoplo lo find on! whatever yon ean nlont til"' |iri>irrarti and |roii"*t t A*tnoT;il ']'i ij\n;. M_\ onl^ hi-^itarion heie is wht^lht-r 1 will do thi^
orlJU'-'uMii-e
Sc'inilor'
1 k|nirtnn'rii, ll
Iw.wiJiT.
win U-
piirsit>'d,
thon;rh,
understand?
Adniiral
Admiral Tiknkk, [Nod- in tln^ nflirinativr.] Senaior Kvvnkhv. K it phnrsihU' that tl^e <liiv'>tor of the projiram would not inidi'rslnnd or kno^^ ah<.nt the detail- of thr proprani? Is il plnn^ihh' that I*i'. fionhi'h wonhl iKt under^laiid the fnM ranjiP
of aetintiesin those ]>ar1indar safr hounds?
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46
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Ti
M:ii, l>'t
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il
is
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Tikn. Not
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fcniiw.iinfii'tl fin tifct
11 ij>
,
M\
is.
you
with S^n.iK.r KrvNKi.T. \Vi.v v-nl-lt.-l ymi fi.lk y.m Inv.. ,- inf.Miu.ti,.., nl.n.it ilu^ ,.r.;t"-^'>". It
of cn-i.liTi.M.\d.niti.l
lum
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nn.l fin.l o
inKTvM
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On
wl,o
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In
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of
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RS to I I'"- ';""^^.;,'^"t...t.-<I An...H.:M.s ... otlKT. !,o wrr.. m.u itM,.t:ly cmut.A int.^r...... RUn.t tl. CIA n.nmnj: .mmM.Hln^ .i,l..,:>l,l..
how
7 l>:n-. in
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vi.win^r
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in..Tr..r"i"L' l-l'l'-.
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S..n....r
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ont
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I,... M.lk.-.l
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vo.i I.a\.'
n|.
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to
had th s nn-*T .
\
with
Innral
'
in ^^ ""-I'"" Ti- ivn-o., h. :.- not uit..rv..-^d "v ^f 'l'" *^I-^ iW:. l....n.,- wu^ that h.. I.n.l l.-f. th^ r.-'P
Tvunkk.
r.j
"-"'f ny try.nj.' to .nfi,.n^ inv...ti;:Mor- tl,.! lU. CIA =.< in s..n. oil,,. l-fnir tin- ..o.nmittc.-. If tlipso ,i, nn.l inflm-.i.... hi- t<-stin...nv '^ ;., oM.v....n. .- -'':' '"^''vv*-;-;'';.^; mlnr H ..nylliiui: lu-ir in tins n^^^ I. nii.l -.-M if he 'in niic. Gotlli. mfofn,nt.on_
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nnyihin^- m tl.^ Inve to 1* ron...TW<l nl>oii p.vf ihoM- s-unnu-Ps to Inn-t ko- how yon ra.,
lOT.". 'v.-., t.lk.-.l
Xn
,;a
to ih. pnnni.al p.-r-on that vn wrrr .l..s.oyo| IT. .> of th.. ,..-o^na,n. ...1 Ih- n-onls w i,.- "l an:., no. pioL-n-m. and tl,.- .V'-...T ha;!. t1.al va- rmnnnt' ihnrw in:.trrial. , , lilkrH lohiii. in.T tl... .li-vi-lnprni-iit of hi.nvohed. vn: Onr onl .om....-., h.-i-.. i- ih^ i.rn|n^^l.r1 T. \Hn iho Ju-t... Deparfnonl on i..lo thi< ml wo,k with
l.av...,-t
^in-r
Un.
r\v!ll
!i!L.
47
who,
if fitlirr
of ns.
not lo prfjiulk'c any Jppnl rigiils IH-ar ij) nnv way to Iw inii>ror>cr. Srti.tJoi' Kt:xxj.iiy. ^V^1^, do T un^lorsinnd yon havr not contacted the Tlij^licr jK'pjiitjjK'iif nlmnt iht- pjirlirnljir c!t^e siiico the development of UiP^ i^t'^v nii\lcri;il ahoiu (rottlioh? Aihijii;ji Trifxr.n. No! about GottlJeJv.sperificatly.'We have contacted
arna^inpto mo, I mean, can you underptiiiid the difli^-nliy tlint any of ii? un^rht have in tcrn^of roniprehcndin;: th;u wlicn you develop a whole new serie- of mnterinl^ that are on ihv from pn;^r of every new^paif r in ihf country and arc on evrrv lelevi-^i<?j, 1 ii/*Mn. thjH niHni<i s*jniPiJnn;r- I'Uf ii dne^ nnf mean nearJv as
it i^
iltt<'^':^t
that
we have
un-
witting .\nicntun=, and every sinph^ <h>cumont that the fitaff reviews Jin> yU\ fJnitliebV nniiic on i1 nnd von enmr np to tell up that wp don*t hjnr to wnny jun mon^ wiJmvr iSje-i' other final facts, and Mr. Gottlieb hn> no! lccn tatkiul xo'.
Adirnml Tikxrk,
finiil
fn^'ts.
am
Sir. I nm noi sayinpthat the?* are in any way the sayinx: thew' art' ail the fa'^fs we have available/
have no! talked to the person who was in charffp of the prograiiL so w hat kind of value or what kind of weight cnpi wf plve Jl ? Adniinil TrrvFR. We are hapm to talk to him. I think'the iasne here apain i^ one of propriely and how to ffo abonl this. "U'e have not. I l>plic^e. enoiipli new information abonl Gottlieb*? panicipalion here to 5ipnl thai I>is interview would l>e that much more revealinp than wlin! wa- revealf^d in ] flTj. ScnaN^r Kkvnfj.v. The importiinre of if, I think- from our point of view. i=. he wonld know tlie dniir> that were administered, tlie volnine of dni;r- how it was administcj-ed, and in terms of vour abililv to follow np to protecr thes.- people and their health, to the estenf that It c:in iN'donc. tlnit "pj>oniniil y i:>bcinplost. J want to tni on to ^lome other-, but will vou fh^r- U5 the assurance \h-.v ym wjlj iTiA alu.hl of (;oi!lii I> oi thiW vou will talk to Attorney GeuenH Jirll mi'l tiilk wjlh Gottlieb?
Sonntor Kt^nkdy,
And you
Thi'M'iirhrrtttOMp-ut- Jul veihevtnlkedio them? Adniinil Tikmi:. IVe don'i kjiow who tliev aiv.
sir.
We
are
tninp
(otriiek ilouti a fid mm- wfirib^-r ilje^- nani"-^ cnn l*e rebvUed toanvliodv, .Siiatiir Kk\>kj.v. That i-> underactive Jnve^iiipjuion bv tinAjrencv* .\dmiral'J"ii:\Ki:, Ye^.sir. Seiinfor Kk.NSKov. And von biivi' the intention of talkinp lo
IM'i^l.le when von bk'it!elhcm.T<thHl ron-ect ^ Ailnnnd TrirxFu, Y^^, ^ir, nndrr the >ame circumstances .Senator KKNVTr-v. .\nd vou hint' people working on it
?
those
a.*
Gottlieb.
Atliiiirul Ti'K.\r-i:.
Ye^,
sir.
MORI DocID:
163357
4S
S*Ti:tf>t
KiNVKnv. Wirl)
thos'
re;:iinU Ut tlio nftivilir*- fhnt (ook plrirp in 1 iMiilcj-sl:niil fmiii till" irionl-, (wo-wny iiurrors
A'lii>ir:il 'l'ri;\M(,
\v>,
sir.
Wv
Ii;ivi
Ti*tttyi]- fliJit
roii^^^n-NH ioii
was
dour
SriiiH")' Kjnx?:i'Y.
Aiidjirjil TviiSKir. ]
Si!in(oi
I '
U'lirM^
iImiI
was
in flic (*]nnvli
ivi-onh bnt I
Ki
\Nj:itY.
Ami
w^u^
n<lili<L
H9>
uTiilir^hnnK lit li'ti-t, to tlir <irii- in Sjhi Kiaiiri^i'u. in iIh- In'^liiWinK wliJF'li air Kn'n-h 'an'Ciiii ilan-rir, flora] pirtun-. <lra|K'i >\ iiulinlin^r iu^!allaiiin of Ij('<1j*h>]|| ]niiioi>. f Inei' frarm-d ToiiIoum' Lauth'i' prjsl' rcil l"tliirt]ii riirpp^ with Mark silk TiiaU, nml n luinihi'v of otlur tains ;niil ri'inrilin;:' er[ijipin'iii. iU)il tliPti a S4'rirs nf <l'if-iiriii'Ti1'- "liioJi \\-*-if pni\ulfil tn tin- lonntiitlri' wMrli imlicati' .i wjclc prolifi^'ialioTi of iliff'ii^nl ra-li for ?1(H1. ;ritu'iiillv in iIk' ^K^i ranp- over any |irrjn*l of inn* (Hi tlir pail iniljir *"lirt'k-i. ,\ni ^h^ iinrnrt nir Mookr*! onl. ns fi> tin- ]K'i-uii wlm i> rpfciviTiir it. i'a';}] for unilt'n-ovi-T n;:pnt-, njiojnt-
in;:
r^\pi'ii-o,->.
it
is ila-liod
nut.
tin'
and
tlijil
Ira^t
wjlli
Ht'*'nl
"cijUrd
l<i til''
\V]ia( t:ni vnii (i'!l n* lli:ji ii )ni;r]il >ii;:i:(-l (n you nl"iiit vliat iochiii'iur?! wi'ip iMin:* ii-pcl liv lh' Al'^'iu'v in ti-i'ni'; of rt'a<'liinjr tlint sort Win;: rvidrntly riitir-od of l>ro:iiMa-i'd ir^'"i'P ^^ Anifrii Mn- tliai for fr-tin^' in trrni- of fhni:- anil ollii^fs? T>o yon draw any kind of fOTidnFJon aWiiM wliiit rni;:lil l^av.- U-rn jroin;: on mil llirrr in tbosp
wrw
snf** Jioii-o=
Admiral Ti
Sp]i[itnr
knki;-
No,
sir.
[dnc*ral l:in;rhti-r.]
nlsn nn cnorrnoncl^ ^rriiin-i >iili'. And Uiai i-iliai at Va^t flu'trc']iin*inr^ whicli nrr u-^i-l i/r wi-ii' nsi-d in trrni- of Ii'-IJti;:. nnd tryin;: ii* hiul ont oxa^tlv Tin* ian;:i" of drii;:'- n^^i'il aiul Hn- iiiiinU'ro of pi'oplr invohrd nnd r\a*'lly whai thai npi^vatuMi \\:i- al->nt. as wrll a- llu^ ron-tnnt i-oitoratioTi of till' n>'i' if *an:dl -inn- r>f <a-h ai iiri'Cnilat- inlrr^aN. A variety oi <|itr*'irnt fnliniiTiir^ wt-u- I'niplovi'il Iml (hrn* i^ nn awfnl lot of d<H-nnn*nrai ion put 1 in;: l]h*sr mail it* 1f>;^"11n'r. Wii.'if \oTi look at tIm' far-1 tlia' il i> a hi^Knl rnnpr pojuilation tlmt
Ki nnkhy.
Tfirn-
i-
li;:Jif sidr
to
it,
tint
thrrr
is
tr-^'d in tln^M- twr* uri^a^. with tin- kind of c^?h sU|ithtit iM'r*' ii-rd in ihi*. paynn'Tii ni**i'Tiani*nj'- and d*'r*>ralioTis nnil nil nf ihr n-t, wi' nw not ahk* fo pni a i^ottoin lin' oti it but onr thinp i^ for snrr, and Hint i*-. Gottlich know*. That i*= onr tiling for ^iirc, ly^ciwi^f hi^ nanir iipfn-ni- on jn-^t rd*oiit cvny onr of tln-r doriniont-. And it \-. I think, wvy iinporJaiit (o find '>ii1 ^hal lii* nndrr-taiidin;:
lia^ lHTii'l(-.n-d,
if=
of
ill*'
Admiral TniMi;.
Pi^ni'vi". Si'nahir
\t
i->
W'
th(>
KixxvnT. Tlin(%
>ali-fai'ioj\.
and
lull \<-i\
and
jn-f H-cni*-
49
ftiul llii"
now
dih-innrnnuirin
fll
\m\v thf
tltat,
<-)u'fks
tlijjf
rifiH
momrtrandn
and he
diil
not
i\ic\i\rtr-i\ii\;i
\\ \\\v
\n^ iuHiii
tm
K. I
woul*] Hkp
;ii- iK-juinfr, ]
mlntiin] aivl liU ?1aff for IxOii vf Oh^ tvrorA s)ln^M s]ioiv thni this
*'
fliarik tl.o
iiu
^nf lu'lrl r Htc Ttvjiic-t nf i1k Apnurv fihj) flir sdniirnl. liflil iN-rnn?^ vri- Mi^ish'cl i}>on if. It wns n voliinii-rr offorl
It
wns
on the
uf thr Air*'iirv. I tinnk lln' re<'otxl slimilii ftltn indiralp thiit Adiiiii'iU Tunifi' Ijh- fir\v!iiilinl lo U'\> r-onuninf^ a rlfls->ifio<l file including ftU of ili<' njitrn- of tlif iiJsrjiiit;on> and Mic [wrsons invohed a^ the
l>nrt
*honltl al-o indirijii' tJint iln^ lieannp is jn^l onp stej\ involved in thr rommincfV invi-**! j;r!irion of dni;: ahnsi'. Jiisf as yi'i^ have haH irnifli
1
\vi>rk in jr-iir*^
i((ijiil
ovrr
ilti1
hjnta
pufT,...
like-
jMcihlciii". htit
uoidd
ihi^ roniniiti','c ha^^ hnH the n'*ord to show that yon have
fi,(.
MafTof
ihc on;:nin;_' inv*M iiTiii ion, wr Imd intended to call upon niunx dn/rn- of oiliij>. o\|H>rimentni>, or thoH^ officials in charpe, and onr- of rhfi-c Will ln' 1*1. <ioltTh'l'. In Hirinkiiif: yon, 1 woM)i\ like to say tJiis in t]ip Amerir^n people. tli;it wlijTi iu- lnn<' rxp^rK'nrTcJ thi^^ n^orninfr in thi. rommit(t*e room i- noT lirir^L' dMpIir;Ui-d in any otfn-rronjniilter room in any other pail of ifu- worhL 1 d*'nlt likjii \vi\ nniilk (inr A;;<'nrv and onr inteliipenee (Mrinniifiiry |jii< Nvn nndiT hiu''h cnlii-ipni ami iia- lieen subjerted to nni -li \\]fu-i-. u\ iur.uy (-'> jn.'itiiio^l. hut rlii^ i^ tJje mOft open society dun 1 ^:^u I In irk nf. Vfty f\:\ui\')t\ in iht'iti Jlrifjnn tlien- niT al>ouI -^ix piojdi' mIio n?!' ii":irr itf tlii idrnnty of iho ni:in in rlinri."' of inteili;r<n'*'- In oiliri lOLMuvJi-. ^iiuilur ii-nilinon-- rxi-t. Heif in the I'nited
jiart (if
Sinti--. wi' \\u\ iiu\\-
A-
know
i)ii-.
wj(}i hiiii,
<nih
:t-
Adrniiitl Tnnu't'. we Inive liad ojvn hearinps TJrf .'onfimaMon Jif'srinp^ wrro all open.
flir
Vnitetl States wil) debate a resohitwn* f ' .h'-'idr njKkTi wiirilirr wr slionhl rli^^hi'^e the amonnts and ftind* i"';n;: n^-d for 'nunw-nnivTli;;.!!!-." ;ind niiTionnl inn^Hici^mi'. I would lioj^c thiif in jne-i^ntiniTtliivis-uetothr pnblic, the media irilj take note th:M th-' Aff^p^v ^'"* f-oo|M'iiitcd and will continue to. Tlie abn=r ihni wr hinr hMMJid f"nn tin-, nionnn^: is one T hope will nevor Itajipen i\'j:\m. bnl winhnit *'ciii.t:nJT ovor>ifflit on thr part rf the E:K<vntiv? Ofll.'r, on tlir piiii i^f thr Conprev^, it eonld hnppen a;?nin. It is importanf thcri'fnrr t)t;if wi- continnf in (hi- ovor-;itrhl :ietirity. ^n.^ury n^MJn, Adiiiir-iil. I tlnnik yon vety mnrli forjielpinff ns. T\> will i-onlinne lo viA) ti]ttiu yon for yoni- nsij^rnnrr. iionld like to sdhnjil to yf>n .-^'Vi-ral i^ni'-lion- thai iJjr inrnd.^T^ and staff have pir]v.m-'\. \Vo ho]M- yoi will limk tfu'ni over rarefiillv and prepare responM-i foj' fill* rerord. ^^ir.
In frw
w*'kv.
Uh' Smsito of
We
S^-nrtforKrwn^v. Mi\ rimirrunn ? S^iomtor IvoriK. V.V-, sir? Senntor KKv\-rp>v. I. loo. wnnt to thntd; AdnnrnI Tnrner for his i-p^pnTisivrtiO". T l^av.' hrnT niri'dnir- with him in tho rommifteps and nlMi i-oiiversn(ions. tele]>lioni- fOnvei-Rnf inns, and private meefinps, and
5()
fc t^i Ik* cxlmiifly ros|>oT.sivc*. end it is I Iinv.- fnun-l Inni i-Tsoiinllv !ii-:Hlmp ihi- AKency viTv .U\h' uh ,-hiUi^U'ji- liirli lir Ti:i- .i..q,hi] in
AM' i>Min-^-1 In. 1 Ihnik 11m- Ii.lc-ni-.-TKT < hMnip, -o w*- look forward ci'.i:il n-n..nHl>il!Mr^ ill tln-> inrji of lluyM^ i1 MnviO. to.NukiM;,^M(l. vo.iUM'xi"-iifiri-Hi.ll.,Tfli;i1 ^u- r-.^u
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nnd vonr
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IK 1 nn. not suit yon omphnsiipd ^. II ,iMi Ih i^i>i lr> ^l.ow tliiit A*lmirol Tnnier iln. tikimH., Lmi 1 lliihk fir rnniO on-lii wlien th<- n^w ii.f-.itiii.rnn Srl<'.J CoTiinjittf.' OM hi^ own inirinliw
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Siniifoi
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innrli.
v.
\vr^'!!<nil<l iio
'
like In
:Ln.l
Mr.
IMiilip
-Tolin
Mr'T;!.Mii,:u
Mr. <SiniTi-ri,
^vi^
von
and
tnU
the
^xl.olrlnMluniilnoMnM^lMil
^'^^ 1 l'i.
thi' lrutli.5^>ht-lj>
Mr. <;iMM
^Ir.
(
yonr^U.
aivl
Ki svKi.v Itcfoiv we -laH in. wo ImH a (hiH wilno^^. Mr. tc^Mify. trnvelrd (o \\ n^h. ('fi;iirni;jti. M^ Pit^tininr. wlh> |.bniu'd to nv* lUly^with in.'tm^-lir liM- ill IVn^l.ioLli'M, :in.l ^v:^^ ronti^-'li-^l soMiHi.in--ho .-nUt'd ^hl intrnnof, of i.-iifvin- ll.i^ hic^nunL'. And nnd indi.iih^d !iiH lio wnnt.-d to prt a ronnwl
''Sm!i
n-^
l.iU
tlii^
DinniioL'
U'ffnr
^rl^
wonld
pir.
Mr.
ym
,,--*>
time
wlioo
at the
*
Mr. rton-iMN.Ov.^r 1" vi-nT-^ ii;:o. K-iMVK. And yon yvvrr nnjdoyod S.-hiitro-
nt
^
the
MKri;n;\ wM^moj^mtion? ,-^.. Tliru wnv so)n. MKl LTRA > Mr. <^n.i.M>v.
I
in
oprrnhon
*v.
iliii' 1
w:|-H
thiTC.
51
you a former emInoi ii, Anrt Mr. John Gittinger, are Scnnlor
Inttlligonce ployc-e of tlic C>tral
Agency*
TESTIMONY or
WHH
ISTELUGEHCZ AOEBCY
.,,
still
an employw*
Sena?ori;;orTE''were you
member of
the
Agency
at
the time
committee. to welcome both of you to the S^na or you the project engineer ^; coSld surt with Mr. Gold.nan. AVen.
but
didn't
know
its
operation.
ym
unwittiiit:
proSd
pra.r>
clarified document hei^ that was ^'enB^or n'rv^Nrnv: Well, we have a monitor of the pr^ bv the Apcncy that lists your name ...
and
would n^eciate
I
Mr. GnuiMAN.
if
take a took at that ^'s'Tnltor KFNXi-.nY. -Well, would you r?Hr.Go)diiiniiin>i*rtedthedorunient.j states is correct. Mr. G01J.MAN. This document as it
tj. However,
""WnntnrKrN-NFnv.That document
is
correct?
first
Mr
Go,j>MAX. As far as
I see
on the
""'s^tor KEVNrnY. Well, could I pet it back, pleaw. ThM would indicate that >'"" '^*'"' " ?'"'.'"^^J ^'''" P'^*^"iV^ the moneys to Morgan Mr. GouiMAN. I was in charpe of disbursinp
Hall-
^ &rS.15::x:^^^HnSl^Swl.o.
, ,
name was
listed at the
top
that he
.he person
who was
in charpe out
^^"";;;';J!L\TSitL7noknowledpenordidTseekknowl^^^^^^^
actually
MORI DocID;
163357
52
wilh tin- niomys a ceipt- tl.nt c^i. wi-rt' liinif.l in balaivcd no illepal nii. all rjpl|l. 1 \n-iy wa^ pai.l ont 1f> He tl.iil everylhinp wn-^ delernLii.e i.y tlie reeeipis an.! eash. Sse of fiiiKls as far as vfr culd A;.'encv d..cuin<-nl indif^tes S.>t3t'>r Kf:sM:iv. So even lh..upti llie
ti.
I
Mr
Gdidmvn.
was collpctin;; 1
hail tn
Ik-
sure tlmt
were
th:il \v.
lli;.l
i,oilienb.i-
few monitors of for San Franei>ro and i.r..-i-:i.ii l.irl. yon mentione.l you .les. ribe.i yonr rrsiKinsil.ility only as a earner
one of
tlie
of
seoinp mil ^ ; (i.iM.MvN. I tnilil >av us ii disl.m>er or earryinir Ml TI.eiv wa- wiihin ti.at--l lliMi il.e n,..i,..v. e... li..M.li.,l pn-iKTly. eoujnnction will, nil.er d.nri kii.nv wii:it-- di>ne or wjial he di.l .to in
.
iii.in.'V.i-llinl
wreel?
^Senai.ii Kknnkmv.
'
Were yon
Mr nnLLMAN.
us in
fiiriiislied
responnhle f<.r tiirninc over the eherk to hini. propnin. itvflf Si, Mot- Kkx\vi>v. And wlml did y.ii kn.-^v of the wa> ,"''" \U. (;..ii.M.^N. The oiiK tliiiij: 1 knew of the i>ioj:nu.. didn I intriins ofroreii.ls and that son of thinp. 1
I wfls
dnlL'"<'t'-<'n''eiinnvM'If inthat.
wrote, and III let you exiiriiine rather sul^tanlive reMew ifs ;. eh.-Mli.d d<^iin.i.i.1 hill von wrote a ahoiit the exiMiunem^. the of 111.' in..L-ii.n, in >hiv of 1%;1. lalkintr roveit and renli-tie fiel.l trial?, fa- tiuil .hiiii th.il hml ("-n rolh-eied. talked nl^.it the fHe<alwnt iIk' nierSMiv of tho-e pailieidai-nnd vanmis delivery tivee== of 111.' various prtiprnms. the effieieney of
still
H-
pv-iei..-
Tli:it dot-ii'i
Mr
<;..i.j.i..\\.
Well,
i-endthi-1 would
woiihl refiv-h my nii'iiiory. if i eon Id af -titiunly apee will, whiitever is ^I'l there, if it
if \..n
1
-ound 1o
who
i-
onl>-
You've iim trvim- l-.c:ither what yonr roh- wn-. n1-iut yon knew nl.ont a in.li.nln.l fii-i r.f nil lii:it voii didn'i know now we tind out that you're the enener for inf.- l,on=.- ill N.' Y-.rl; ^'" l-"inn.-iseo. \\ e find out now Ih.' iv-..inv,-- a- "ell i.nd ih-' (.""' '" were di..r. Yini're li'-lifyin;:thiil yon only \niil-s->ua-:ii tint ihi jii-t one do-'unn-nl. and th.re are ninny th.' ef.uii-r and (iv w.' have with yonr name oih.r- lh;i( talk ;iliiii ili.' sni.stiinee of that proKTaiii role yon were on il and 1 am jusl Iryin;: to find out exa.'tly what
S.n;i'inrKT vm:my.
;
Ci
am Th.' nnlv thin^i I ean tell yon ahont thi- and I w lo was drawiuc eonu.lel.lv on niv memory i- that this individual and eei^o.-l r.l then, ''("-k <> in rliarL-e out itieir' e.,i.di..-led th-H- thini.'s Ain know- wa- that le the \..,n<v. 1 didn't iiarli.ipale in anv of them. that wei-e dmie an.l lold of the fiirni-lii-d nil' will, n'.rii.l- f',r thing''
Mr'ni.mMiN.
work
Mr.
MMAV. Y<-.
il
t.lls
reeeiptf. lliat .lo.nmrnt eover- more llian what they liad eondii. le.l work out
of
it
not
'
2.
.,.
Ki
V vTv.
W,dl. von
<inlt.'
it
s a rla--ifi.;d
. , doenmenl.
ai,d
,l"n^ kn.,
why.
frankly, hut
il
53
mPinomnHnmf on is^ sipnod to the of tho-p iin-fTniiis an-l voui nnni'' inv.ml.vint' to n^viov fm ,is now *l.nl is in -c il. I .>. nnl inlP.v-ir.l if . woi-o Irft Mitlithc rl,..mHit.lmt I tliink it wul.lW imfoilnni.l*courier of re-.or,-es jv jni * a opinio,, tli.it nil v..n won- ^f- a tlmt talk- HboiiUh- snb^tnnce j!,ouM.T-t wirh yonr i.;.nie on il. sifn.r.1. ,c inim-sl.-.] ni is ll,e snl.stnnrf. of tl.e rr<..'ran, An<l wliat wi^-ro of .e tiiBt uerr ),rov.<le^ bv n.o.'rani. Wc- hav the n-oont do^nl,nt^
t-
Al'.^t..v. lii.l,
do
iTidi.-a,.-
tliHt
v....
wp;t
nt
Inifl
inhco.
''
M"'?S,n\lAv'l
Mr.
yon ran
the proprnm
tJint
in
New Vork ?
Si.;it.i
to
fnnetion with repard to ^ew Senaior Kt.nnv-i>y. Did you ever po to San Kroneispn?
,
i ork.
spent in charpe! Senator KiNNrin. Dirt yo" mwt witli the , Ml. GOLTMAS. Yes. . ,ii.;e ,. , , Kf.nxflv. Antl why did yon meet with h.m? Senator receipt, and '""P^ ''V' ""^ Mr. GoLPMAN. To di^e,... <om<- of the ere nnieed tn.e ext*nditnre? and to find mit tlici-e t<, liinl oiil if thes.ripht for the work that was being if everylliiTlp wii. poinp nlonp all
heinp
SPTntnrKrvvFi'Y. What work was l>einp flonel ihmps and vrhtever wa. Ml "'.MM X. No. the .^,.".ls nf the.to hi.t he did port to do,,', know ho he reported
d.m.-.
I
""seS KFNNKnv.
^
Yni. travel out there to find on, work i. being the'>^^\'Y ZZ^. done, and wliat does he tell you, that thnfs 1-einp
"Klnl^lle told
poinp
n.e that the work that they be very alonp. propn-s^inp .atisfartorily. but to
yon what the ^ork whs? yon. Senator I """<>' "". iH- verv frnnh wh th.>se '^^A^j^ m^i ilicr the things that hap,-ned ha.-k in <> 10 >''> for over J,">from the eomp.m from the Apeney ""J I was jnst alKnit the time when 'J Pven farther hiirfc- Ihnn that, and thai But he didn't
tell
V"
yon have
it
there, then
know Dr.
Gottlieb'
MORI DocID:
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M
Senator Kennetv.
How
Mr. CioiJ>MAN\
He
did you know Dr. Gottliebl had been head of the division when I was
re-
Scnaior KrANEnv. Did you talk to him about these programs? Did voii haw nin tiling: to do with liiio duri^;: this pcriotl of time! Ml. (ioLriMAV. 1 didn't liavi- aiiytliiii^' to do wjMi him until I would
&tv|>rciliMM\ in the sixHi's.
Senator Kcnnedv. And can you tell hirn thrn? Mr. G<nj>MAN. Jn=^t whnf vnu see there on the papers. Senator Kennedy. Well, that is the request for the money and he approves it. Mr. G*>iJ>MAN, That is the request for money and he approves it, and 1 am quite sure thnt I probablv disciiwed with him whethrr the work was EOing nlonp all ripht. whether his reports were beinp turned were pojng in. niid wheihor liv was snlif^fie<l with the way things and did he hnve any complaints about the way other people were rcniipstinp him, hut f did not enpipe myself in anything he was doinp. Senator Kennju^v. IVelU did you get the impression that Gottlieb knew whnt was goinp on Mr, Goi.nMAN.I didn't ask. Senntor Kevnkpv. ]*nt you told him that your impression that what wn>j:oini:onevm lliouph'vou didn't know what was goinp on, was goin^' on w(^ll,l iTiiess? fLrtUirhier.l Mr. (iiU.iMA\. 3 told Gottlieb what you saw tn there w-Rt thnt the thinps appeared lo be poinp along all right. I was repeating and parrolin;: hsuk tlie word*^ ihnt were ffiven to nie whilt- I wbs there. Senator Kennedy. What was the money being spent for, do you
to
do with
know?
Mr. Goldman. No: I
ean't reeall that, sir.
Senator Kennedy. Would you remember if we told you it was red curtains and can-can pictures Mr Goldman. No. sir. Senator Kennett, Flora! pictures and the rest> Mr. Gou-MAN. No, pir. Senator KENNX^Y. Recorders. Mr. GoLPMAV. No, sir. Senator KENVEnT. Eecorders and two-way mirrors, Mr. Goldman, Wait, hold on. You're slipping a word in there now. Senator Kennfdy. But you would have authorized those fund?, would vou not. since you were the Mr. GoijiMAN. Did vou say two-way mirrors t Senator Kennfj>t. Yes. Mr. Goi,DMAN. 1\^ere? Senator Kknxki>y. Tn the safe houses. Mr, GoiJ>MAN.Wlierel Senator Ke\nfj>v. San Francisco, Mr Oo!,nMAK. No. Senafnr KENXEnr. How about New York! Mr Goi.nMAN, Yes. Senator KrvNEnv. You remember now that you approved etpenditures for
New York?
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Mr. GoiJiMAN. Yes. *i What werpthow>pxpeiidituresfor? Senator Kknnei.v. over for the use Mr. (i..u.>iAN. Tliat a. n tnn.sfcr of monev of Narx^tics. It was for an apartment in Xew York by the Bureau
"'Sc'niuir
"^tr'&nrNoonlinp
oM.r than
know
that
.t
had been
'
-d
a.
'^"^.^^.^^^-^J;* individtmls who thej were Uuroau of Nftrrotkv to pushing dope, but sellim.re^lcd in with reprd 1o puf-hinp dope not tiling. ini! narcotics and that son of many responsibilities and SoniLior Kjvnei'v. Well. I am sure you had does indicale that you were project ilV a lonp time iip'.. but the Ap.'n.y
you went out toreSciialor KKN-\F.t>Y. Your own testimony indicates to find out whether thev were being vi;- the exprn.llluro. of fnnd^ vou came back and talked to the project director,
about Golliirb. to pive "him a propn-ss re(>ort ' there.
.
i-Hv used
tliat
Mr
complete blank
in
terms of
itserf.
"
nor did did not po out there to rt-view the projects review what I fad ob^rved come hack ana talk .ith Mr.Go.ttiehand I thev~tha IS. Other P"/*\?' '^Apeney term-- of onv projects that in 1 simply reported back those thinf^ n i"ht have in operation there. earned > were told to me bv the individual out there who-and I in front -h"i have l.ackVnd thev ^re -contained in the report that you
vTtSinM'v.'l
rhen,
report that and PrO)^'^And IJ^on thml' propram^"^"'"'"r^i^^S^T Yr.n' t thfnk live report on the particular pro]ect-th.s is * nnvone who wasn't familiar with the .PT^J^ll'^'V^on the substance of it withont kno*""? at^nn-could write a report remember and recollect. it.\ow, that's mine. Maybe you can't
,w.n
Et
down in there i,, /^i"?; t^l-jj ''"Mr''G'^;:;;7AV. no: everything 1 put was any a< told while 1 was out (here.and if tberv "5l"P 'V^^"^"" reallj can tell you 1 ]U,M don t remember that. 1 lion involved in there I
time-a lot of time his '^"^{the time-that was some year. apo. At the ""^^ rec^'f ' paVii since then and I have made quite sut^ that if 1 J* have some P;P^'7"l>r at all. I would do it. If vou recall that is so, 1 can do that, but I can t tify whether yes. this is so or
"f,"lVS
"
just certified
up
likf*
to potoDrGittinpfr.
s*rv^
^.
with the
A^ncyf
66
Mr. GiTTJViiTin. Twnilv-sa v(^:rs. Spnafor Kk\nfj*\- Exf'w>^ iip? Mr. Gm^JNiJKK. Twj^niy-si:^ _v*'ars. Sorirtlor Kr.NMiuv. Tw(*iity-six ycar^.
Au'}
tlia(
movrt] info
iW
Kf.nsf.hv.
And
diiJ
you know
inforiii
Siiliiey
Gottlieb?
Mr.
{cX>
(iI7Tik*;f,r.
Yo-^fin
Si^nnlor Kkn'nui^y,
And
did he
you
iinohin;: LSI>? Mr-(irrn\<ini:. Yps. sir, Sfjial<ir KK\Nri>Y, It i? my undei-shutdliif; thnt nprf ftl-oAwnro ni S4>]iH- of llie drup tcstin;; pi-ojci^'is ooudiU'H-d on unwiniuf: suijoots <^u thi' wr^t roy>'l jj-'in^ \)n' lijin-aii of XHn-ot <> [ioupl<' jn tljeoiHTBtjoii.
yn
I"' llint
triu'^
lienr yoii.
Mr,
^ep^^?
(iiiTiXiiKii.
Sorry.
tliose
I can't rpntf*ndier for siire nmoli of the ot}ji'>^. AVhiU isihi'-ul'Staiireof iij,nrihui>nn.cannnhi>. i^tJi:ii npht.fhal rail \tc drlivod'd l>y otlu-rtlinu ^ninkini;?
Mr,
<iiiTiviii;u. I,SI>.
And
di^rnion of fliat ; ye*^. S<'uari>r Kkwkfo. And wa-^ lieroin alM>uspd ? Mr. GiTTiNCF.u. Ilei-iiin \i^i\ U\ Cl\ ? /^m.nfor Kknnki*y. No. Jji the wfst coast operation. Mr. (iiTTiN^iKH, Ai^M)ln(ply not, Senntnr Kknxkim. No-. to your kuowledpp. how ivrre tJe drr^^rs ndnuui'^lfTed totii*'innvitlin;:nh;ieets? Mr. (iittj\*;kk, 1 h:<vrnTidinM-f knowledge.
^me
Senator KvNNKi^T.Wliy did yoii cotothrsafehouiac?? Mr. GiTTixcKif. liVn verv ronjpheated Mory. Juvf in jn*:tifirafion of
raino up just ijuy In^fore yesterdjiy. 1 hnw not rrjilly enou;:li tiiite to ;rpt it all Mrnichtem>d in luy minrh -n I raniMe'
myself.
tiii>
had
tiine
and
lell \\< in
your own
wonN. We've
Mr.
jM-rjiiil
(
^it sonu-liine
liere,
iiTTiMiKii.
M\
n-'-pou'^ilhililies
of
liiiki'
tlial
y<nr
weiv
which woulii
relnlod to drn^rs at nil, | was a ]5Jyi'liohjrisi cluir^'d wiiii thr rejipon^ihihty of try in;: to devi"lo(> * luuih lufiinuiilion a'> I could on vfirioii?i rulturi's, oviTsi^a> tullutv^. anthro]>o^>^ii'id ly]e djiia. if you follow wjjnt I mean. 1 wa- :iKi>rnffa;,^'il in tryiit^ to uorkout ways and nicnn? of !i.-<r-^)n<ri>eofilrnni| tnidcr^landini: |n*oph', 1 ori^rinaUy liennne involved in thi^ lhn>u::h working on Chine^i* fiillni'i'. and over a s-'ries of tiim- 1 wjk inh-oilu^-ed Jo the prohlcu) of hrninwn-Iiinjr. wlnih is lln' thin;: (hut realh wn^ the nio-t cou4]n-llin'i thin-r in rehiiion^liip lo tins, and lieeninr rharirrd witli tle re^pon^^ihili!y of tryinpr t*> find out a Ihih- hit alut iuiermcution (echniqups-
57
onjprfliinf:>, wo (Iccid^-d or I d**ftdfd that one of the best sonrcc-i(if Hid rmifutioti io('liiii<jij(> wouM tx^fryin': to locate and interai]j'iip
And
view nnd lK'(t>nie intohti? widi exiH-rirnreirponrr interrojratorf in the rnuntry mid PXjH'rienml |-<>j>le who Um\ irni pniftical knowledjrc
of iiUrrripytioji, Tlie
i-en^'-n
foMhis
* *
co!U iiiivd nftrr tlu' exjM'rii'nip of llir uMt of ('i)inu. lliHi it wBfi i1m> tecljui^in*- of tlir ini<'rTopjitor- tjjftt were rai-inp tiu' indiviihialslo nnkf ronfrs-ioi!>* Hmi su fonii in rcliuioii^liip 1f> thi>, rnlluT than nnv kind of dnij^'piup onil so fonli. So we wen* vpry mnrh interested in inl4vn>palJon tiT'lmi'tues, and tins Jed to me lieiii;: intrMiHTd lo tl>p ^'eiii in \Uv we<l cojim, nn<] I l>e^>-A]) lo talk to
liliii
I'
in (nnnt*crion
wiih
Seiintor KFxvwr. OK- Nort% (Jial i,* t]u- affi'iu that ran the teMs on the AVptt coa^t nn tlir lunviftui^ i>#*n|de, ThalV wlien- you come iiK eorrerl ? Mr. (Simvcrn. If I iinder-ifnnd would you pbv Hint tpain f ScniUiU- Krvxn^v. The name Mor^nii "lIiiU )ifl> been that is the nnnn' thnt hfil>PcnTiped, Ml (irms<!r-R, Yes, SinntorKT.\NO*Y. Andtimt iFtheapcnt thai yoHmet witli.
.
Mr.
M)'.
(iiTriNi;t:ic.
Thnl
i^ri^rht.
at
SriiinrnKv:\NKiv.
S']j:i!iir
the safe
hoiij-e,
(ijmvcFTi. Ves-sii\
K3:\NM>y.'\Vi]on dill you nipr? within the r^afehnnso? Mr, (iiTTiMira, Thi- i- the pnrt that is hiivd for me lo ^y, and 1 am snrrv lliflt i liitve Uk Id contu^-tinTJ witji sonn' work fhiil we Ttere
doiiii^, \vr ni"''th"il (o h.-ivi' wiiiir inff^rritaiion
habits Morpon IhiU |ir<n i'h'il iuforrtiiuil*i for n^c to talk to in <'OJtneelion with the sex hnhit that 1 wris iiitensted in tryJMfr to find information. Pnrinp one period vf time the safr h'ri^\ u*i far n^ I vn- concerne^K wa= nsed for jn-t thi'H- pnrti-'idiu' tyjw of interviews. And I didn't 5oe the red
on
?=pxnal
curtains:.
H"W many
diffeti-nt
Mr
GmjMiKTi.
liuie-.
any eertainfy on
that.
Four or iyw
Senator
ins; ah**nl
]\Ki\\
^fr, fiiTiiMiKi;,
Over yon renieniher now, the jveriorl wonhl have nr)y invojvenjent in thr-;
nlON( a
-1-
that
is
year i>eriod which is the only time that 1 know ariythin;: al"Oiit what yoti aiv talkinj: about here today. Senator Krssinv, Did Ahiriran Hall juiiko the orranp^^niput? for lh*' proetilnti'sin meet with you? Mr. finTi\<^Kft. yps.Mr, S(*naliir Kt.xnkoy. Did the inlorvipws ihaf you had have tTiythinp to do with drup-* Mr, fiiTTiNrFp. ^Velh n^ T tried to exphiiu enrlier when thi- wa l-ein:: diMu-seii ii IjIiIp hit Wforehand, ns\i'm 1 think it is prplty hard fr>r niO'^t pi'ople now to recognize Iinw lilth- Ihep' wa'^ known al>out drufjs at the irnod of lime that we are lalkiuj; al>out, bocanse tlic
io VM\\.
it's
So
or
Ti
MORI DocID:
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dnjp
on. Cns"'qiirntly, those of iif w Ii*i li:<i] rvriy n'r-iiuh-il'^lity iu thi^ un-Ji w^^v inr^-n tr*l iii trviuc to tr*'t a- )niii li nif*irtii:tn<Mi n- wivouM uti tlu- tiiilK'ulnnv, ilu- ^ubi-uluirc di-ij;: ^'t<.ii|i-, ;nii) uliviouwiy tin- Hun-jiti of Narcdtir.^ n-pre^'ntod a Tiiruii- cf A'nu'^ \\i\r-. ( 'onM'i jui'jif fy. (iflni ty|n-> (if ihin*:^ tliai Titers iuvolvr.l iu <H^i'ii-siiii^- u! tlmi linu" ^\oiiKl li;T\i' in i|i> Willi ilii' ^jiJcriiroiihJ n-i- of dni^"i. Wjn'ii J nin talkiii;: jibfiu! llii> ] nui tulkin^' ^U^ouf
ii'^t'
or
tin-
Inff^r
lljt-
f-ilk\V!iy-
ill
trims uf
innvitiin*:
iim' i>f
|)0i>plc il^ot
>Mi-iiilkiii;r Tn (i;ni"!n)> jpifnnijiiTmrj nlw*ijt ifiJMtikl on nirt' itj-hnm-p i1ji"\ miti" :iMr fo 1**11 ijH' nlw^ni ihi^ir um-. nivl in mo-1 <'h^h tlji^
1
wouM
l:ir;ri)\
urn out
>v;j^
ir
tiiai
sort ratijtT
n-latlvclv liHlf \iift'it\i:iiviu. )H-)\v\t- ]\ fir iiof. :ii Ihnt timi'. in h'Trii- of x]w iujjoirs n-ji'-nun- lli:n |M'<i|>U" Wi-w liavin;: to drii^:^. 'l"lionf<ii'c, (litM- ]x-<*i>!r
1i
nKu
vny
mn*
iiitrn-PM'd
ln-i-aii-*'
wv
}j;nl
know
Sn;ii.r Kr.wK.n^. Ar U-n^i \tni puiWu^t] nv am I cin-ri'il in n--iniiin;r ilmi \<n ;::tlMrril \\iy ii(ipn>Mun iliai ihv ino-ninu-> iii!\t ynu h:ii1 !alk<-*l n. wm- ;iM,- ut slip till- ilrn;.'.- lo jKujpTi' ns J n)nli't>tjniii ii. iJiil you foiih ;in> iiiipi'*'*-iftn on tJmi ^ >fr. (JirriMiu:. I r<'il;iinly <liil J^ot fr>nn tho jniprfs^ion lh;ir tliry <\if\ lh\^ ii- :i rulr nr .S^n;jlni'KK^\F)v.llnt llioy lunl ihi- knnwlril;54\ Mr. tin*n\<:i:it. TIhv InuI the krj<-M-l('il;:<' or sonn- nf rlipni hnd hrtJ knowlnl^Tf. of ilii^l^'iii-^'dfino. Itnr iipuTMiKir tnnu'il out.ii wu^ liirjr<^ly in ilji> ftTiM of kiioikoin <lT"op-i. S*nnrnr J\F\vi:nv. Ijinikiui: im'-k now ilJil you fonn any iin]>i'i^^?^iou nhfiiu liow till" Ap'iiiy w>ni'hi;iny H'stin;: tiu> In-omJ -inM"Trnnuf M>rial cln=*;i'^ in tiii'sr -:if,' Ijoo^p-f A\"itli ilir lai";:^' ih-lmr-jil of cash in
Mnall ijniuuii
ji'-, ?^l<i^
klmls of
i-UilHtrsitc <Joroiiition>
ami
fWfiAvjiy nJrroi- in ilir U-ih'oo).> nnil ijll \\w n'^t. i> flji-n- :iny oni'-tion in yonr owji ruinil w l]:i wn> jjoinj.' on in tlir >jifr iioii?<*'?-, or llir trrhniijni^-. rliiii
wrrr
U^iTi:;
J
o^n! lo
if
a'liuiTU^^n'V
Ih'h- ilni;:'-
Mr.
hit'l
(in-riNrfihrr.
lirnl
an-wcr
lint: f|np>tio?>,
f-jr.
liml ;il*-oliift0v
no
no kooH
i*"(ijfc |}i:ri
in ilir
nowitrin^
tinin
ji
ljr;:c'
mmtlior of
it
this. I
11
whs
in
K\ v*;ii>.
I
^^\n (iotrliH)
\vr
;;i>
it
wouM
was
know,
^\<nilil hi-
n<u
^fr, <iTTi\*;i:i;.
Kknnkov. C'nnM
:iiii!
into thr
Jlnmnn
Koii]o;;v
Fonmln-
how
in-irnmeni inU'iins
of ihr *np|K*n
Mr.
Si"n;jror
ih^-rrilH'
ir
it
lo ii*?
t'*i>nhl
:in'l
it
yon
(losrnlw*
fnnrtioni>il
hr>wii w^rkiMl?
Mr.
tliirik
(iJTTivcKr:,
i''
how
r\oh'Oil,
wlmh
iinporhinl SrhiU'ij Kr:\M:r'V, Snn'. >fr fitniv<iKi;. Tin- Socirty for thr Invest ijnt ion of Iluninn E^olopy. >ci-r:Jh-.l. w:i- artuii^y u 1 am confuwul hrn- now a? lo whcihor
MORI DocID:
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Senator Keskedt. Well, we're not inlerested in names or institutions, so we prefer that \ou do not. That hns to be worked out in arrajipenients between AJmira] Tiimi-r and tbe individuals and the
insniutionf. h\u ttVn' irvt'^i'oMed in w]iai xhv Foundation really
funrtioiii^il
it
awl whut
il--
jJuriKiM- was;,
it
_i
underlakc research in the g^-n^ral an'a of iln* b<'bavioral sti*"i]i<-s, ]t dffinitt'Iy had almost no f'Kiij.<tr iiilerest in. wiy, druii-rrlnicd iy|>e of artivitifii except in a very luinor iray, ln'<'aNM' il w;j> JHr^oly Sfi u\i to anenjpt to pain a certain auionni of infi>rination and lo fund projects which were ])sytholopicaK sooitjh^pinil, an(hrojKlofricat in character. It wat estabhshed in tht' priiM- of a jX'TJocl of tinu' ihnt a lot of u- whn an- in it wi>h we could doii ovirapiin, but we wefvijilcrenle'J in tryiuptoiret topetliera panel of the most ivprer-entatiw hipUJevrl UOiavioiul scientists we could to overnCT and help in terms of drveloj>inf the Society for the Investi^lion of Unman Ecohipy lyiw of propraru, TJo Apency in effect provided the money. They did not direct the projecrs. Now^ the fact of the matter is- there are a lot of innocent peo>li\ (iiTTiNrtV-iL
pRialili^licil to
AVrlK
wa^
who received Hic Society for the Investipation of Human Ecology money which I know for a fflct they were never asked to do an^thinp for tfce CIA but they did pet throuph this indirectly. They ^ad no
ple
knowledge thflt they were petting CIA money^ Senator KenvedV, Over what period of time did this take placet Mr. GiTTiNriER. As far a? I was concerned, it was the perioa of time endinp in lf*(>l. I believe the Human Ecolop\" fund finally phased out
was not involved in thi?=nha?iinp out. Senator KtNVEnv, Can you pive the ranpe of the different sort of individual projects of the univ4rsifie- in whirh it was active? Mr. GiTTJNOER. Well, it would have as many as I am very fiuzy on njy memori' on the nnmlvr of projoct?^. It is o^^er 10- 20. 30. Senator Kenxkhy. After it made the prant^, what was the illationship of the Apenry with the results of the studiesf The Foundation acquired the money to make the prantp from the Apency. and then it made the pranlr to these various research proprams. Mr. GrmNnFin. Yes. sir.
in l^-". but I
Sena(or KrNyfioT,
And
Mn
Senator Kfvxkdv. Then whnt follow-up was there to that, sir! ifr. Girnxfux. "Wrll. in every- senf^- nf the word, the orpaniAtion wns nm exnrfly like any other foundation, and it earned with it the same thinp in ferm= of nial^inp rertain thnf the people that thev had ffiven money to Tisrd it for the purpose f'>r which it had heen printed, thnt they had nrce=*: to any of the reports; thnt they had put out. but there W4*re no strini; attached to anyl>ody. There wa?in't any reason tliev couldn't publish ^'MthinsTth^f thev niit out. Senator Kr-Nxmr. WI>at (tort of hudEret are we talkinc about here! Mr. GrrnxflKK. T hone<rtlv do not remember. T would j^uesF we are talking in the realm of about $l.'>0,f>00 a vear, but don*t hold me to that,
MORI DocID:
163357
60 Senator Kexnedt. What is your viw about such fiindinp as a professional pejson, in terms of compromising the jnlcgritv of a universily.
nr?
"WVII, obviously, sir. insofar as
todav there is no mieslionaboiitit. Iwillhflvetosavat thetimrlhat wr wire doinp this there \rfm quite an entirely different kind of an altitude, and I do know for a fact that we moved to ^art towards phapin? out the Society for the Tnvesti<jation of Human Eeolop- and the Humnn Erotop>' F;iTid for the very TCiiwnthnt we werebepinnin? forecopni/e that it wnp movinc into nn nren but thi^ would be eompromised. Senator KFVxmv. Well, that js oommendabir, both vonr attitude and tlir reftsons for it, btit dnrinff that period of limo it still was involved in behavior research pmpram^. asl nnderstand it, Mr OiTTivfiKR- Ye?:, Fir. On its own, in ronnection with this, it partjripated npnin, nnd these a^min wero not CTA-diree!ed projects, biit thecr were nil thmir^ whirh wonM theoretienllv contribute to the jrenfrnl knowledge at the time where the thinff? like the studv nf the Hnnffarian refncees obvinntly. the Miidv of the Hiinparian fefii^reeF
Mr. GiTTiNOFR.
who
r-ame to thi^ roiinfri after tho Hiin^rinn revolt wns a ver\- n?efnl exerrji^e to try to iret infnrmntJon about the personality characterisfict of the rommunict= nnd po forth. Senator Kkv-nfov. Were there other foimdntjons that werv doinp
similnrkind^of work? Mr. GiTTiNCFH. Not to mv knowledge. sirSenator KrvNFPV. You believe Mr. Hi-rnNvirK. Yon n^enn. CIA. other CIA? Senator Kfxnf.ov- Rijrht.
^fr. GiT-TivoFR. 'U'ell, ansivor i* in the i^nse that T otlier fonntlitinn'^, no. ThiT*^ were, of course, other
my
riA
know of no
foundations
doinc^ifuilarkiiKlsof vork in thoTnited StnteF. Son.itor KrvvKov. ITnve you heard of the Ppveholoiriral Assefs-
menls
Mr
Senator Kpssfov. Wlint was that? Vnml function did that hare? Mr. Gn-nvrpKR. Now, this wim briti^iui: u^ np to n different era. I bclievo the fnnrtinnc of that ori:aiii7ation have nothing whafcoever to do with the thinps that are boinfr talked about here while T was a?^orintril with it. Senator Kkvvfov. Ffithrrfhan pettinff into the work, if was another fouTidatiou. was it not? It wa*: luiother foundation supported bv the
Apr-ney?
>rr. OrTT'vorff. Whr>t. the Pcvcholopieal Ai=!5essment
?
Senator Ki:\VKnY. Ye=. Mr. GimvoT:!!. Xo. sir. it wnsnof. Senator KrvvKor, It did not ^ret anv support
at
a]l
from the
a buFiness
it
was
MKn.TRA
Senator Kf-nneov. It was a business but it cot support from the Ai'enry? Mr. GiTT7voFn, It pot mnnev from it. but it definitely was not in or in anv wav assoeiale<l with tins.
'
MORI DocID:
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61
wnnt tu tlmnk yon for your helpful lei?timoiiy, 5Ir. Gittln^n: If if no! ^n^-_v lo pti bock into thr past. I think you hfivp bron \evy fnir in vor rh:>rnrterization5, and I think
riL''"'.
nre different stfindai^s nowfrmn wliat they were 2fVKirsapo.nnd I think voii have responded very fnirly and completely <o the inf|Niries. and 1 think with a (jwd deoj of feelin;: iilx>ut it. ^011 niv a |>eiwin who i= obviously aftinipliiii: to serve the oountrv's inlereM, so I want to thnnk you verv much for your statement and for your helpful timeline??. Mr, GiTTixcKii, Thnnk you. Fir,
tJint tJi<>ro
^-
it
is (|irilo
BppmprialpK inJiontoJ
Senator 1n<*i'vk. Senator Cas*'? Senator Cask. TJinnk yon, Mr. Chairmnn. 1 nm Porn- that 1 had another commitfeo that I Jmd to romple(t the hearing vith this morning l>efore 1 ;roI here. I shall reod the (esiimony with verv preat interest, and I appreciate your testimony n^J have heard il. 1 wonld like to comment just on one iKunr.and that is, it relates to a story in the pre^s yesterday about pan of this pi-oirrani involvinju' llie fundinp of a prant at a forcj^ university. I woul<i hke to elivit fnnu vou a commi^nt as to the additional s<>nsif]vity and diffirulty tliat thai practice' involves from your stnndi>oini as a scientist, as well as a citizen, if vou wilh Mr. CirnNoKic. I will say )l was afler the fiirt thinkiup. It was utter stupiHiiy the way tiiinp. worked out to have u^l some of this money ouui.Jt' the Viuui] Slatr< wlnn jt was VJ\ monev, 1 nm enter-oricanv Stat*' in my kno.vlo.I^'r luul I don't eh.in, a mmpllte knowledce alt thV way arri>^_-. of l)ie hrmj:tn ci-olof.-y funcMon^, but to nv knowledge, and thi< is nnfnnunaT< tJirvi' penph^ did not know that thev were cettinc moury frf^J^, (}\^ ^rid thry uen not askrd lo conirihute anvthinc to ' ^
,
lA
n^ Piich.
SeuPTorCASK. It wouhl ) iniensriiic to tn to examine this bv m- tir Hnn- around und thinkiui: wh:H we" would think if thi* turnhappi-neH from a forii^'U ofti- uil ap-uc v (o our own universitv, TJiank vou "
y}i\
i
liairmjin.
'
'
Senator Sc}nveiker Sennir^r SrnwTiKV.R. Thank vou. Mr. Chnirman. ^^^^"\'^':'(>'>" ^'<^M tell us what your traininp and orl '.",ir i"l'''''i' e(tn<'aiioiial
.
Srn,anr
Iv.. I vf^
Jmi-k^rround if?
Goi^MAx. I have already piven a bioc-rnphv for the record Scrudor SrnwnKvn. ] havi^ not hvu it. IVI*.. luis K it da^ified Me may have it f,|r t... re. ord, hut may I ask you it ? brieflv describe to >ourtramm;r smd barkirround for .i^nnw? J hot>e it i no
Dr.
SfVret
tohi thai by your stnff ,>e,.|>h-. but J have no objection to tcllinp vou. J am a n-snh-ut from renri^ybania. M.ulhweM Pennsylvania. Lanra.jer rnui^ty, I weni to Slale. and T an^ Jn niitrition. >cnn(or Sriiwi:TKKPi. In what ?
Vnm
Dr. GoijiM
w.
Nntriiifui.
tufriT^ the( lA in
'^f-n^KiK^ii.
Were you
"'^^
in
eharpe of a
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vourpnst rapai'ilv?
sect ion
or sepment of ^
'*"T^
one
was
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Senntor ScM\vr,iKFR,
tioii lliitl yoti )iruLl('(l
'.
What was
(iiiJ>MAN.Toprf>vidi'Fi]ppnn fortlir other pnrfF of the division. Senator SriiwKiKKii. Who-e in tlie fhnin of command would ti*al put you in rrlntionfo l>r (ionlieh? Dr. (iinj>MAN, I'retly fnidown fhc ]jnr.
J)r.
juFt like to ask you a few t\yw-t ioii^, \\\. iippn-t'iafe v<iur fr:!nkne'><i nuil camlor with tl^r'.-oniiinih'4'. nud *\o n\T)J>:i' ihi^ is a verv diffUuh rtn^a. to pri into. J n'vt
<;ifiini:ci-. I
S*')):Moi
SrnwuijiKK, Mr.
wouM
am
qu]\v chavfiu
hnusi*-
U\umuUfv-ih.\\ wpiv liii-^cd pnrJier First, ^verp tljo safe we wttv tii!kii;: alonl lirre isi-d on or^a-^ijon bv \hv pi-osiitutes
I
Jtnvenol the^li;;rhtcst j^lea. St^n:tor S<imvi:iki:i;. \Vrif the pro-tiiute" um^U in nnv fli'nj-hJimr>ilrn^- furoiiM^rviilion purpo.io=i*
n-Mv
way
to slip
lieen i D position (o in
know
the
toeiiher
Mr, fSnTiNcvR, M:iy I sov, priibahh not, anri mav 1 ninfce an niide tor.M^lairi n hiOv h\i of tlis/]lrn<ic.sir'? Soimtor SrMWKiKi:ii. Mr, Gittin^rer, a moment flfro you moniioned hrniinwi-hmjr lei innn>cs, nsono an-n that yon had, 1 tztn^s^. done -onie wiJTk in, Ut>\v Wiinhl vou rh,Tnirteri/P (hr sintr of the nrt of hrainw^^^liitic: (cujjiy? \Vho Iins the me^j exjx-iiisr in this (iehh and wJ,o is or i>no( doinjjit in itTUisof oniPicovoiniuents? l>uriTiir t)e Koreair \\r\r th*'T'(> ^va,^ n hn of serious di.sriission nliout
hnnnwji^ni^;,'
intMi'-^h-'J
iTi
nni
Mr.
on
lindiii:rT*Mi wh;>i flu- MaTi-'of the art is toiiny. nsyon 5*0 it. (it r-iT\(;n:. of i-onrsi'. tUt-n- hfi^ U*en a frront deal of work
WcU.
cnn tell yon that a^ fur a^ 1 kTifw, liy I'M'.]. VM'rj. h wiis at least proven to niy sati-.furtinn ihal hrjiinwiisliinj;. m rsiUfih is somr kind of an c^oferir device
tlii-.
ji
irn-M
iIimI
of
c'ot*i[vivoiTy. J
niTnd;dU'rinr kind'- uf rnuditions and so forth wt^re TJst-.l. diil mil c\jf .viii ihoiiirh *TIk* Miinrhiuinn Pandidnte" as a niovi" ii"all\ Hi II- h;*. k a luitL' umc, U^rariM- it miidr soruetluM;: inip^K>il.ii- hok phui-ihlr. Ik* yon folhiw whnt I mean Bui hy inC-2 nnd ]flr.:', Ihr ppTUTJil idra (hsii we wrrr nhir it* eonie Up wiili is that hraijiw:t-lnTjjr wu-i lar<rid\ a proi-e---; of isiihitiTiL' hnmnn boinc. keopinp hitri nnt of rnnla'-t, putlin*: hrni nnih-r lon^r stn'ss in ndntionship to
i!rij;;> i*r
'.
wlu-jv
.\
inlerrii'wiuiT
rhan^r MliI
nnd iT^inroL-m ioti, and that thev eould produ^'e anv \viy wiihorji having to nwrt to any kip*d of esoteric
tin*;
from
siv a raptive prisoner either po on telrvisi^n, in a pliolf^'raph. ny nt a piv>- i-onfej-en* e? In olhrr wnrtt.-, aiv t)u*n* errtain sitrn* that yon hnve leanird 10 nvoind7-o froni vour teohniral hri-'k;ri<iiirid. to tell wlivn hniinwji>hin;: ha ocruni'd ? Or is that verv
when we
diff^-nlllodo?
think if is pfsihh-now in terms of lorfikin^' at n pirtnn- of sonirN^ily vvho hn^been in enemv hands for a loii^r nerind of tiiKi, f^nn p*! sonie pret(v pond ideasioif what kind of eiirnfiislanres ho hns been under, if that is what vou mean.
1
Mr,
fiiTTiNr^KK. It is djfljrult
lodo.
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63
Sonntor S* hweikfh. That is nU I hare, Spnafor iNorvii. T}iank vou very miKh.
ifr.
IVfori' n*ljoiiniin;r llf^ )(^nnnff'R. I \\o\M like to havp tJie ircoH sliow rfin( lt-, (itilJnian and Mr. (littinprr have voluiilarilv cooperated
-witli tJn- ronijiiittcc
volijjjtjirily.
ami
I
appearthis morning
realize tJinr thi^^-xporinire mny hnvc boen an unhappy mu- and po*:sihly a painful onr, TJierefore. we thank you vcrv much for piiniiipjieififrihis morninp, also realize that tlie circuinstances of tljat finic (liflVml verv J\\\^r\i from this dav, and possihiv the national attitude, tin* national [xjlilicat otnnide" condoned tliii tvpe of
(ieiitleinni,
We
hove noi asked von to come here as prrsons who hare eomniiiteil crimen- but rathrr in lo|)e that you can assist us in Fitudyinp
a<r jvity. Sr>. \vp
t}n>i
proMt-na so thnt it will not ^Hrnr onVe apain. In that spirit wc thiink yon for your partieipatioTi and we look forward 4o working wirh you furtiier in this case.
murh. Senator J\knnVj>y. Mr. Chairupan, I would like also to thank the witnewes. The^e are diffi< ult matters^ and I think all of us are very
yoii ver\-
Thank
pratefjd.
that thouph it m,ny not always s*oni that wnv. what we are f rviiip lo do is to proli thv pi^-r oud look at tl^- |olirie-of the ptif^i lo aff* ct ihe fnture. I think our eiupha=:is reidly jf^ on thr future, not ihe past, but it is important tliiU wf' learn from thr past a^^ we fornuilate policies and lepislation for thr fNfiiM', T hoj>e that all of the witnrjwt^* who did come before us vo!intnrdy ihis ui<iniin|r, iTuhidiup Admiral Tnnirr respect the fact that wi' nre qnestionin;r the past to learn fll>oni the future, 1 think it should lie looked at in that Ji^jJit. Senator Kr,NNr,nv. T think that is the -spirit in which wp have hid these hearinc'^. If sienis to lue that fwm Imth these witnessef^ ind other's, OolilJeli knows the ioforujation and can l>ei resj>ond. and we are poinpto make every effort in the Seiiaie Health Committee to ptt 5fr. noftlieh to appear, and we obviously lo<k fniward to cooperatmg: with Senntor Inouye and th^ other memlier- of the committee in pettinp th** final chajUer written on this, but we want to thank vou ven-
SniatorSniwnKEP.
know
TnridiforyouraplKMrani'o?iere, Senator Ixoryj:, The liejirinp will stauil recess, subject to the tall of the Chair. flVhereujwnn. at }2:\2 p.m.. the hearinp was recessed- subject to the call of ihe Choir.]
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pubh=lied appendix to
>L*nare ^ole-'i Comnuttee s rei>ort. 1 Jns secthe programs, tlieir tion of the repoM will discuE: th^ rationale for has monitoring and controK and liiu the Comn^itiec's investigation
ilie
among
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prnate inabout their relations with otlier government agencie:, and BtJtuiionsandindividuais.chemiFears that countries hostile to the United States 'twould use Americas allies Jed cal and biological agents against Americans or techto the d<'veU'pii>en! of a defensive progrojn de^igni-d to discover counteract niques for American intelligence agencies to detect and chemical and biological ajrenis. The defensive onentation soon became secondary as tlic pos-^ibU- use of ihes*" agent:? to obtain information fronuorWin contml over, enemy agents became apparent. Research and devtlopineni programs to find niaiei'ials which could in the late iy4t5 and Ix' used lo alter human beh:ivior wciv initiated
.
The=e esperimrn1;tl pmgramF onginany nuluded testing ruhnin:ited in tests of druiis involving wining human subjens. and were deunwitting, nonvohiniecr human subject:*. The^e testr
enrK
IDoO^.
u-ing or biological signed to determine the potential rtferts of chemical that they agents when used opcraiioiijlly again?t individuals unaware had received a drug. l *l The testing programs wore considered highly sensitive oy ttie inwithin the telligence agencies administering them- Few people, even evidence that either agencies, kne^r of the programs and there is no of them. Ihe the executive branch or Congrcr^s were ever informed in highlv companmented nature of these programs mav be explained the part tv an observation made bv the CIA Inspector General that, knowledge that the Agency is engaging in unethical and illicit activiInteniceart Senate Re^oluiioa 21 directs the S^aote Select Comiaiitee on
*.j in.T "<3> Whether fljTfncles within the inteUijoncp commuoitr condaetefl Illegal domestic activUies iSectionScn aad i2)): commnniir coopcr"(b* Tbe extent to which ajeacles within Ibe iDtriliseDce
:
Activities to iDTealiEitc a
number
of iesu^s
Intel-
^{d> The
Section 2 (Ti and ni>) . , * _i i^ ot Americao ctdof existing laws to ttfeguard the rigbli adequacy
l>r
The procrams **Ue dola?!? of^tbese proprams may never knnwn. d.KTumeDtacion T^ere bicbly eiisted for Whar wert^
eomrBrimenTPd.
Few
reenrd^
kn^t.
littli^
tbe
CIA 'I
principal program
in 19*3.
386
would hnvc seriou? repercussions in political end diplomatic circles and Mould be dotrimontaj to tJic accompUsliineni of its missions.''' Tiit ix?5o;tich and development program, and particularly the coties
>^
of t^o Americans " can be attributed to tirL=e programs; other participant? in the testing pro^i-auis may stilJ suffer from the residual ef^
fe^'ts.
vort tearing progiain-, PcstJlcd in mas;:ic nbridgmcms of the rights of Auicncnn citizens, sometimes with tj.i^ic consequences. TJie de^iths
WJiiJe some conii-olled testing of tljese substances might be defcndtJ, thu nature of the l^sts, their scale, and the fact thai ihcy were contmui^i for >tars after the danger of surreptitious administration of L^D to unwitting individuals was knowiij demonstrate a fundamcniaJ Ui5rcg:trd for tlit value of human life. TJa- Select Committee s investigation of tlie testing and use of chemical and biological agents also raise serious questions about the adequatv of command and conirol procedures within the Central Intelligence Agency and military intelligence, and about the relationships among the intelligence a^ncies. other governmental agencies, and private insi irut jon-^ and individuals. The CIA s normal adininistrative controls were waived for programs involving chemical and biological tn project. fhcir security. According to the agentF head of the Audit Branch -n the ClA. thes*> waivers produced "gross administrative failures." They pr^ , -led ihe CIA's internal review mechanisms (the Ofik^e of General Ci/..i5ch the Inspector General, and the Audit Staff) fron* adefinrtU 1> suprrvisinp the projrram>. In general, the waivers had the paradoxiciil effvt of i>ro\idJnp lesf resirieiivr administrative controls and les-^ effmive internal review for controveijsiai and higlily
governing normal Agonev activities. Tle security of the programs was protected not onlv by waivers of norm:il iidnniiistrative cnntrol?. but also hv a liigli Se'-Tf^v of companmentntion within the CIA. This compartmenlation excluded the CIA s Medical Staff from the principal research and testhjg program employing chemical and biological agents. It also may have led to agencv policymakers receiving differing and inconsiMcnt resronscs when they posed questions to the CIA compnneni involved,
Juri^^iction.il uncertainty within the CIA was matched bv juris^ dirtional conflin among the various intelligence nirencies. spirit of cooperation an<I reciptrx-al exchanges of infonnation which initiallr
'
Mililarv testers withheld inlormatjon from the CIA, ignorinj: fugircstions for coordination from Their superiors. The CIA simihrly l.uM to provide infortnation to the niilifikr> on the CI.\ s testing program. This failure to cooperate was eonspiruously manifested in an aneinpt by the Army to conceal
di^iapi>e;ired.
rharueterized
tlip
programs
of rJrrubterT ColJ^p*^ ind brart fniUiTr fnlhiwins an intntrrnnu* InjfctioTi Of a synUiftic menlmp d*r|vtlr^ FhJir a *Ti^Jor! of fet* /Y^nrtueT*^ hr New Ynrk Snte r*.rchiafrtc In^Hfui^ undpr onirnrt Wi hy thp VS. Armr Cliemicni Cot\^ Th* Commitrf*'s Inv^MiMtiia inTn(lni;:lr>^nnc t"v r.g imeni^ea.T -ip^reie* feeii^ednn thp testinp of LSD. hMrev^r. tbe ci^cimifTw^ did riv*ice i rorv of tbe V.S. Aruir In*i>-Tfir Geaer^il's R^T'^rt. h'juoit fQ r>cti^'*r 3075, OH thp events ftort cireuiD^raDrt't ef Bliuer's doQih ln^ cl*ath * dirt'ctlj ttributaWe to Zht idmimitriClOQ of me iraibeiie me-icnlinf derh'ativp.
p.
n7.
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their overseas testing profiram. which included surreptitious tdminisJration of LSD, from tlie CIA- Learning of the Army's program, the A^CLicy 5urre|>litiou5ly attempted to obtain details of it. TikO-^Iccision to institute one of the Army's I*SD fieJd testing projects had l>?eiibaf^d,at Ica^t in part, on the finding that no long-t^rm residual effects had ever rcsuJled from the drufrs administration. The CIA's failure to inform the Armj^ of a death which resulted from the surreptitiousadministrationofL^D to unwitting Americans, may well hft\"e resulted in the institution of an unnecessary' and potentially lethal
^.
propram. "Die development, testing, and use of ch- "Ncal and biological agents by intelligence agencies raises serious questions about the relationship between the intcUifrcnce community and forei^pn governments, other agencies of l>je Federal Government, and other insTiiutions and indu-iduats. The questions raised range from the lepiiimacy of American complicity in actions abroad which violate Americnn and foreign lawi to the po^ible compromise of the integrity of public and private institutions used as cover by intelligence agencies.
A,
The
PocR.uf& I.wtsticatid
Project Project
that began in the fall of 1S>47- Responding to repoHs of "amazing results" achiexed by the Soviets in using "trutli rlru^'s/' thi* program focused on the idenfification and ic-nng of. >uch dru;:^ for use in interrogations and in the recruitmei;-of agejn-. Tlie research included laboratory psperiments on anim.ils and nun: , ^ubjeotF involving Anahij.*:''S aphtfUc. scopolamine, and rnescaline i-, >rder to determine their speech -inducing qualities. Overseas experiments were conducted as part of the project. The project expanded substantiallv during the Korean War. and ended shortly after the war, in 1953/
2.
Navy program
Project
BLVEBIRD/ARTICBORE
CIA's major proprams involving the use of chemical and biological agents. Project BLUEBIRD, was approved bv
earliest of the
The
discovering means of conditioning personnel to pre\-ent unauthorized extraction of information from them bv known means* (b) investigating the posisibility of control of an indivadual by application of special imeVrogation techniques, (c) memory- enhancement, and (d) establishing defensive means for preventing hostile control of Agency personnel/ As a result of interrogation-! conducted overseas during the proiect. arother goal was addedthe evaluation of offensive uses of unconvenT:..nal interrogation teclmiquos, incluilin^; hvpno^is and drugs. In ^^^^"^^ ^^^ renamed ARTICliOKE. Project ARTI'-^iy??5P.''^ S^**? mcluded m-house expcriujents on interrognfion techniques, conducted '-under medical and security controls which would ensure
(a)
CHOKE
2mri
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^^ ^^'^
Cottiaiittee,
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that no dama;rr wrs done to individuals who volunteer for ihe experimrru.-i."' Oven-^ca: inTorropitioEs utilizing a combination of sodium
ppniotljiil
and lijj.nob^js aflt^i phvsicol and nsvchiatriceiaminationsof Ihr sulMiTts were also part of AKTICHOKE, Tho Ofiir<- of .^iontific In<**llipenc* (0,^J }, which studied scientific
adviinrcsby hostile powers, iniliajlv Jed BLUEBIRD/ARTICHOKE efforts. III ]fl::?. overaU responsililiiv for ARTICHOKE was transUrrt'<\ from OSI to (he Inspection ai}d Security Office (lASO), pf*dolr^s^^ 10 the present Office of S^ecuriiy. The CIA's Technical Servie.'s :ii>d MnJi. ;,1 Si;ifT?i wire 1o be caltpd upon as needed: OSl vould n-tain li;uwin fuTiriion wiih other government ajrencies.' The change in Ir^nderfhip i\ttm an iniellipenee unit to an operating unit apparenilv rcHi'Ltod n rhanpe in emplinsis; from the study of actions by hnfhh- powrr? to th*> U5C, both for offensive and defensive purposes, of ?pi-ial inirrrogfttion tech ni<jue& primarily hypnosis and truth
s<'riinis.
Rrpre^ntntives from each A^rencT unit involved in ARTICHOKE met ahnixf nKsnlhly lo discuss their pro^rress- These discussions incliid'-d tl^e pUniinns (if overseas interrogations* as well as funher e,\|irr iii}i'n':ihoj| in the V.S. Infnnnntior aMut project ARTICHOKE after the fall of 1953
lunintains that the project en.i.-d in 1956. but evidence ^M^-^cM- that Office f>f SecnrilY and Office of >Iedical Sen-ices use of "special interro^anon" techniques continued for several years thereafter.
IS scriTvo,
Tin-
OlA
MKXAOMr MKXAOMT WHS another major CIA pro-rram in this area. In 1967, the CJA suminarizpd the pur|x>ses of MKXAOMl
3.
(a) To provide for a covert support base to meet clandestine operational re<]uiremems. (b) To stockpile severely incapacitatinp and lethal materials for the sjwcific use of [Technical Sen-ices Division], (c) To maintain jn operational readiness special and unique itenjs for the di&^mination of biological and chemical ma-
TSD
terials.
(d> To pronde for the required surveillance, tej^injr, uppradinp, and evaluation of materials and items in order to a^^Tire absence of defpcts and complete predictabilitv of resuh- to be expected under opemlional conditions.*' VndcT aT\ ^{rreemem reached ^ith the Armv in 195i>, the Snecial Operation?:^ Division (SOD) at Fort Detrick Vas to assist CIA in developinp, (esting:, and niainlainlng biological agents and delivery
'Mr-DMtnnilnm ttfm En>*Tf TTHr. O/Dn/P !*> tb A*riuni Depotr (In^piTMrti) and ^ift'UTifjl andChipf nf thn Mt^liral Siaff, S'^S^S. 'MomnraniliiTu fmm H. ^Inr-^hftt] Chi^rtti-nlT. A^^iMant Dire^rnr. Sri^ntlfle IntM'
Ujrenf*, tn the Dernil.v PinvTmr/PlnTi*
"I'r^crp':* Hi'i.npT. Pr-^jf-rr
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t
M<*mrninrtiim frnm Phipf. TSD/Bi^lncirfll Brinrh to Chief. Fijndiiic n:p^tK**i. pr*1 Ac^*iT^nH*h"*nt^ '* trt/^/AT o 1
Uon
of
MKNAOMI
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Sst^ms.
use.
this Agreement, CIA flcauired the knowled^, skill, and cililies oJ the Army to develop biological weapons suited for CIA
Bt
develo|>ed dnri^ coated with biolojpcal agents and pills containing several diiVrent biological agentft which could remain potent for weeks or niontlis. also develoifd a sneci&l giin for firing darls coated with a chemical which could allow CIA agents to incapacitate a guard dog, enter an installation srcictly, and return the dog to consciousness when leaving. scientists were unnble to develop a siniiiar incapncitant for human*;. alwi physKalJy tranEferred to CIA personnel biologi<al agent- in "bulk"* form, and delivery devices, including some containing biological agents. In addition lo the CIAs interest in biological weapons for use agninst humans, it also asked to study use of biological agents against crops and animals. In its 1967 memorandum, the CIA stated:
SOD
SOD
SOD
SOD
SOD
Three methods and systems for carrying out a covert attack against crops and causing severe cmp k>=s have been developed antl evaluated under field condition?. This was accomplished in anticipation of a requirement which was later developed but was subsequently scrubU;d just prior to putting into action.**
President Nixon renounced ilie use of any form of Ijjological weapons that kill or incapariiaie and onlrri'd the di>|w>al of existing stocks of bacteriological weapojis. OnKcbruarv 14. 1070, the President clarified the eiievif of his enijicr order and indicated that toxinschemicals that an- not living organisms hut are produred bv living organisms were conf^idered biological weajions suhjpct lo hi<= previous directive and were to be destroyed. Although instructed to relinquish control of material held for the CIA by SOT), n CIA scientist acquired approximatply 11 grams of shpllfi^h toxin from personnel at Fort Detrick which were stored in a littleusrd CIA laboratorv where it went undetected for five years.**
2ft. l?r.p.
MKyAOMI
was terminated
in 1070,
On November
SOD
4^
MKVLTRA
MKt J-TRA
was the principal CIA program involving the research and devrlopmrnt of cliemical and biological agents. It was '*concernod with the roscrtrcl* and dcvplo|micnt of chemical, biological/and
radii)logi.nl
ations tocontrol
in clandestine oper-
In January 107,1, records weie destroyed bv Technical ServhTs Division Tier-onru-l ac-tiiir on ihc verbal ordiVs of Dr. Sitlnev Gt^tTlieh. Chief of TSD. Di. Gotilirh h-.i^ lestiticd, and former Director IIcfni?> has confirmed, that in otdi in** thr record- desToved. Dr. Gonhch WPS carrying out tJie verbid oid*'r of tlirn DCI Helms. MKl LTKA l)egan with a projuiejl from the Apsistani Deputv DjHTtor for Plans. Richard JI. [jjis. to the DCL outlining a special
i
MKKLTKA
^ Ibid.
p. 2.
Sdort ^ MtujoraniJum Committer, !>/lfl/7.-. Hearinrs. Vo. 1, from the CJA lD*m"ctor General to
J^rnatf
70
390
for hichlv sensitive CIA research and develoDmcMt |.rnj<.rts (l.ni *l,idi(.<J the u-* of hiolopiral and chemical materials nil crni-: human Ix-liavior. The projerts 111 involved:
fiiT.'
Wnn nitrhanism
>r^.
develop a capabilifv in the covert use of biolo-^'iijil :.nd chonij.-itl mnirrinU. Thi-: .u-.\i irvolvfs the productioii of various phy!:iol<i;:in.l condiiiims which could support prrsi'jil or fiinirc rlnnilcslin^ operations. Asidp from the offei.-^Mo l>oIe,H jal. tlio deiclopTuent of a comprehensive capal>.lilv lu thi- field of covert chemical and biolo-icnl warfare {:^M^ ll^ a ilioroiij:Ii knowlcdj-e of the enemvs theoretical
R(vi,-arch to
p..i.-iilinl.
i^lif.
rh.is
wmMinp
iiii-lii
niijiii's
not as Me are."
u> tn d.-fc,id ourselves a^ainsf a foe BF reslraii.ed in the use of these tech-
M-ii>]nvi(^
n.
13. ir>53 alone the Il.lm^. Tiin of tlif raii.,iirile for Ihc eWabli^hmenf of this spe^inJ fiindHs extreme s--n^ilivi(v. The Inspector General's '';"!>--;iL.Y2f s,,,v..v of I,Ti;.V in yj,::; ,ed the foIJowinpreasons for this
Iiiu - pt.,|.o^.d
MKI'LTRA
AlM)r
mw ""
MKt
'
orcn-ioii in
'',."^!'"."
.
nmiipulnlion of humnn behavior is conpMir,..i l,v ni;i: . nitl.oniit-. in nicdicini' nnd related fields I.. U piof,-.^!.,. ,;i ,ini-fhi.,il. theipf..fe the reputation of |iM>r.-M..nl p:,n w,p:,nis ii, ih<MKn.Tn.V.pro;iram are on
11,
l,:-,Tnvh
'^ic
u>.ip:irilv.
VlKn.TKA
liiili'i'il
c.
III till-
iiri:riri;ilc)i;incr.
pl,;w. of the i,..tinc of products "'"' '"'^'^''^ f !?= <-i'i"-"- in ieopardv. ' ;,"V.'r ^'r t (J. 1 II >Ji.-.h-^<h,-iiicof .-..tiiea=iwisof activ. >tv could indi(|r serin-i, advcr-e rciiction in V.S. public opniion n.^ ,.II n. slimuhl.- offensive and d..fe,i.sive
fii.:.l
MKIXTRA
>mrLTI{\
Hi
Un> held
action
,.,.
flie
iir,-
i,:,n
O,..,.
'-addilional avenues to jhe con,,.,l f ,,,:, lvh,.,vior" c,v dcsi^-nnted as HT propri" e fo^ nne. ,:r.,,,,n undyrthcAlKl-LTKA ch^mcr T].esc inc^ K^^^^^^^^ ?'''^ ?^ P'vcI,o]o,,v p..ychiatrv. sociolo.^-. h ; ';;:i.";'""T
Ihc i.-u.ve.,r
of
ih,
pr.>;:niin.
manv
The
;
'
iv-.M,-.'!, :,,i
,i,.vrIopmci,i
of materials
t.^
Ik. use,!
"i u hm'^n.
,"%""'"'^'7' "^
t':;.
'"'
'''"''=
for nlferin"
volnnt.in-
in ..rivcr>iiies.
phannaccmical
house.-%
''"'""l institutions,
MORI DocID:
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391
rations. Tlie anniinl pranfs of furds to these specialists were mftde vivUr osten^ihk n-sonri-li foun.)n(ioii auspices, (hereby concenlinir the inteiiist from tlio spc'ai(=t'E institution The next pl.n^- of the propram involved phvsicians, toxicoloi'isis and other sperialists in mental, narcotics, and peneral hospitals, and in prison.-;, t ttlizinp the products and find in f^ of the ba.^' n-rarch phase, they condi.rlod intensive tests on human subiecLs One of the fim studies was conducted by the \ational Institute of -Mcnra Il.ahh. Tins stitdv was intend.-<l to test various drugs inrlndin- ],allii,ir,<,-ens. at the Addiction Research Center in Lexiufn..ii. K,.,iri.,kv. The I>-xini'u,n I{e]ibililaiion Center." a.s it was tl.e.i call..!, wa-s a prison for dm;.addicts serving sentences fur
tlAs
MKI'LTRA
"
NIMH
dnic
wen- vnlut.tcrr prisoners who. after takiu" a brief pliysiraleN:uiniialnjn and sijruiut'njrenera! consent form, were adminisleird haMurinop.nic dnips. A a reward for participation in the pro::rani. fJic ad.Ii.'i* were provi.lod with the dnie of their addiction ""'' '*/,"-'; "'^"''"l^ '"'f' i" the nr^p,-am! Tk c T'"; The final pli.as. of L.s]) ,psr,np involve,! surremitious administration to iinniitinff nonvohinleer sithie.is in norma! life settin"<= bv undercover odirers of tJie Rntraii of Xnrcolics acfin" for the CI K The ralionalo for such testing as "(hat lestinir of materi'ais under accepiod scirntifi.- MTK-oduiT-s fails to disclose the full pattern of reactions and attnliiiiions that mav occur in ojierational situations"" Accoidiii-r to lb,. CIA. the advantajre of the relationship with the '
Til,. Tesi
M.l.iecis
MkTLTRA
mi'iiil-r- of siisiwi-i irintiiiat eJeNicnIs from the JHui|-;ni of Nii[v.,;i,il ],:,;; ,,|,r:iiivd res'dtc of oi.f^ral ional value throii-ii the ti-sr>. tl ofl.fr ha >.,J. ffi,
whom
hioh
eff.rfh;
wx of the
a->}d'
?oir
tjot.r.
,-,> ./ fon.-f,... h of Qrfat i!g,.;fra,.cr and tf/^/o.'/ h.,y h, ; ,[,,.>, if ,.,. o r>tr:,fv of !<fh-;,iuah u-;th;n TMsrcittgorioi. Knlplla.si^added.] '*
.-1
, |
A
"js.,1
sp.ci.Tl
pr.--.dnr,..
des^-iMled
.MKDFl.TA. wns
....!,
f*nriv as
materials were n numlnr of oer-asions. Hecau^c MkTLTH.V record* weif " "= "ii't"*.|,I,. tn re.-on=' nu-i the oi.cnitinnal use of i,,;'',?;^'; maleiial.. hv the CIA overseas: it has Iwen dclrnnined ,1 .1 nial tl.e .!=, of ih.M. nhilenaK abroad lw;r;ni ju 1?:.:!. and possihU
of
MKn.TI.'A
es'alilished (o
tnaleii.-.ls al-.o -d
on
i"-t",
a=
intrrro-ntion.. hut \'\u.\ y\\\\nAT\ mnli-ri?i]^ \\i-\^ ^\<rt utrrl fnr }nr':inirnl Hr^-n'.Ijrin;5, oralis;,! J, TL;-|>nTi.n^('s.AiVimnTLMi>nTUi^pei^r,rnrn Nrrvrv of ihr T<'Hinr:l Snvirrs l)ivi^ioi f*f f},,- 01 \ in lO'iT^nii i]i^I..rt](m ivlnrit Av\ nnr .liH-oxvr rlir >rKrLTK nrojoof involvinc \. ti>c- ^nrrr|> rKion> niliiniuM ration of to unwiriinp, iionvoluniprr
^I^'^-V''Vr'^''V;'l?^'^ Mi\\
'^'"'*'^^'>
^^
^^
<>
LSD
*/tirf.pp, 11-12,
72
392
developed six dru^ for openUion&l use tnd tliey hod been used in six diflerent operations on KtotBl of thirty-three subjfvts." By 19G''l the number of opermtions tnd subjects had insubjects
creaseil su1>5(entially.
In the spring of 1663, durinp a wide-ranpin^ Inspector General survey of the leclmJcnl Services Division, a meniber of the Inspector GeiH^rals staff, John Vanct^, leanied about MKl'LTRA and about tin- projpcl involving the surreptitious administration of l^SD to unwitting, nonvoluntary human subjects. As a resulr of the discovert' and the Inspector Gcneralfi subsoqurnt report, this testing was hahe^ and much tiphtcr administrative controls wrrr inipo^ied on the prog:ranL According: lo the CIA, the project was decjvasod sipnificantly eacl* budget year until its complete termination in tlic late 1960s.
hy the Arnty Tliere were three major phases in the Army's testinpof LSR In the first- L.SD wa* adminislored to mori.- than LCMJO American soldiers who
5-
TAr Tcsttng of
LSD
volunteered to be subjeris in chemical warfare experiments. In the second phase. Material Testinp Progrnm lT2f>, Dj volunteers received LSI) in clinical eiprnmenls de&i^med to evaluate potential inti'lli^i^nce uses of Ihc dnip. In thc third phase. Projects THIRD a)id DKRIIV HAT, IC unwitiinp nonvohinteer subjects were interi'oguted ofier receiving LSI) as part of opei-ational field
EA
CHANCK
tests.
B,
J.
The Ratlonah forthf Testing ProgramJi Thp late 1940s and early IPjOs were marked bv concern over
the throat no^d by thr aclivitics of the Soviet TniniK tlie People's Rrpublic oi China, and other Conmiuni<it bloc countries, t'nitcd States concern over the u?!rof chemiral and binlopiral apentsby these powers was acute. The belief that hostile powers had used chemical and biolexical apentsin interropaiions. brainwashinp, and in attacks designed lo hara^:^, disable, or kill Allied personnel created considerable pressure for a '"defensive" program to investigate chemical and biobpical apfuts Fo that the intellipence community could understand the mechanisms by which tliese substances worke<] and how their effects could bt*defealrdJ' Of particular concern was the dnip LSD. The CIA had received reports that lite Soviet Union was enpaped in intensive efforts to produce LSD: and that the Soviet Vnion had attempted to purchase the ^orlds supply of the chemicnl. As one CIA officer who was deeply involved in work with *his drup described the climate of the times: "[It] is awfully hard in this day and api' to reproduce how friphteninp all of lliisirasto us at the time, particularly after the drup scene has become as widespread and as knowledpeabh'* in this country as it did. I3ur we wen- lit L'liilly terrified, because tli is was the oite material that we
IT
20J. Jn the OfflM* of S^Turirv of the riA fttfi'*^' r ilir '"urp^nry of i\\if dJ^mverj of Inliniiiiies and mfHiml MjjiI iiould |Prmir .^ur ji^ryDnnpl, In tli** fvpiif ijf tbfir captun- tT rht* *Tieni>. to resist or dotrat eneiuj' Inierroiatlon "
|i 11
/frirf,
1ft".
TUw-^ an
'tl!Bi-<'r
393
hi5i"'t
^''^''"^''^ oricitotion
1*
MORI DocID:
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rpcofmizpd ihv^ rff^Tls of 1>I> to unwiuingindividiiiil? wiihiji llic Uniied StuU-^. ifi"_- prujcui contijiuod."' As the l)q>uTy iJirpcior for PJanp, Ricliard Hi-lni^, vvroic liie Dejuity Dirtctor ofVontral Inlolli^pm-t during; disi-ussions which Jed lo liit cessation of unwilling testing
Altliou;:!i thf
CIA
"While 1 share your uneasiness and disUste for any pro^VMn wliicii it'nda to inlrudr upi>n an individuars private
legal j>r<.ro;:atiM's>, I Uliivt ir is m'ce=i;rv tJiat ihc A^i'iicy nimntain a i_'ejitn*l vo\ki in this activity, keep current oi enemy eapiLhiliclcs the nionipulalion of iiurnan beliavior, and niajutiiin an olU-nsive eapahihiy,-^
and
Thori' wrrr no a! t lui] n t tn secure approval for the most controversial aspiMt* of ilieM' propiams from the executive brancli or Congi^ss. Thi' n:ttun? and extent of the pio^'ranis were clowly held seciTis: even iKl McCone was not hrii-fed on all the details of the pro;;iarn inuntil 196J. It was ^ohinc thf snrreptitious administration of diTiiii-d niiperjjtive thai tliese proprams be concealed fi"om the American peopli". As the t'lA'^ Inj'iH-cior Gi-neral wrote in HOT:
LSD
Precautions must be taken not only to protect operations fnmi ea;pO'>ur(* to enciuy forces but also to conceal these activuics frfpm the Aim^rican public in pcnt^ral. The knowledge
Ajfi'ucy Js en;:a;rinir in unethical and illic'ii activities would havi' serious report-ii^sions in |>oliii<^al and diplomatic circles aiul wmiKl U* del rt menial to Ijjt' acroniplislinkent
tliat tlie
of
2.
it- niiztfion.'*
Thi D.ath of Dr. Fmnk OUor\ Thr most ii!j;:ir re-ult of ihe festinc of LSP bv the CIA wa*^ ihe dpiUh nf 1 Jr. Frank (Hmhi, a civil i;in emf^lovrp of X\\\- Army, who died oil NovtinU'r J7, H*'*:;. Hi- de^itli foll<iwnl )ns part icipjit ion in a CIA expi*iimont wiili \j^\\. A> ]>ail of this experiment. <>N<ui unwjtlinply reiciv*Ml a|>]iro\iTiiLn<ly "i* iiiirropratn^ of LSI > in a ^\\\^^ of Coinireini lie ilnink oTi Nii\i'nilH*r Jl*. Vy.*.\. 1hr dru;: had U^n phi-nl in tlie iKJttle by a CIA oftirrr, J>r\ Kol-Tt Lnshhri>ok, as part of an exiicnmcnt \\y- \\x\\\ \\\\ Sidm'_\ G^l^he^ pt-rforiunl at a uu-itin;: of Army and
V\\
s.'ifnti^t^.
SJionly
ng >in iiTid
afti'r thi-^
si'hi/nphrrnia. A<'i*orijpanied b\ 1 *r. I^;rhlinK>k. OKon soiipht l'^> ]ii:itji'- ;i>7*i-nni'r in Nvw ^"ork City fmin a physirian, 1)k Harold Ahr;ujiM-rj. wbo-i^ n'M';urh on h:ul Urn fuiidt-i! iml'itirtly by thr CIA, W?iilr ill Xrw Voik for trcatin'^iu. (>i=ion frll to \\\% death fp.hj XI tvi.tlisrorvwin.lcjw \\\ (h.> SiatlrT'H.itrl.
LSH
J
\
the dE=' n**ion^ wMrh |*^ to th** ffrminnrlnn of itip uti'N'ittinc te-'TjiiL" rlir lU'l' Oini'Hl d-'un \\w ojifjkTi nf linUinc *tnrl] ff^t* niTlmi Uii- t'R. onO i''>jiTiiiijim: xWxw n^ro^nl di tiiip Ihr fnri Hinr Ww Tpihiiii'.'i! SiTvir-ff* Pidrliirinc
Tv^n
h:i[l
r.-ii:i,-l
T*'\\'
in
"niiikiiii:
i\\\
irT'r.tiFini*
niiriJ.r
i
i*r
f">Triini
jiritiMrmN witrinp Of
t
n'lr
iu
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viT>
>''ii'-iTin'
:n'rn
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395
assigned to the special Oi)enilion5 Division (SOD) of the U.S. Army Biological Center at Camp Detrlck, Maryland. Tiii^ Division tiad three primary" functions:
a.
Bathground,
Olson, an expert
in aerobiology
who was
(1) assessing the vulnerability of American installations to biological o-ttack (2) developing techniques for offensive use of biological
weapons; and
(3) biological research for the
CI A."=
Professionally, Olson was well respected by his colleagues in both the Army and ihc CIA. Colonel Vincciit Huwet, Olson's immediate superior at Hil' tiini- of hi^ diuth. wfia in almost diiily contact with Olron. According; to Colonel Hmvot *'As a professional man his ability was oul^tiUidi^g." Colonul Kuwet stated that '^during the peiio<l prior to the e\i>erin>cfH ... I noticed nothing which woulcl lead mv to "believe that he was of un*iound mind." " Dr. Lash' broolc, who had monthly conlaots with Olson from early 1^52 until thi- time of his death, staled publicly that before Olson received LSD, 'Sis far as I know, he was piTfectly normal." " Thi* assessment is in direct contradiction to certain statements evaluating Olsons emotional stability made in CIA internal memoranda written after Olson's death. b. Thi: Ejinfinii tit, On Noveniber 18. 19j3, a proup of ten scientists from the CIA ami Camp IX'trick otteniled a semi-annual review and analysis conferenci- at a cabin located at Deep Creek Lake, Maryland. TJiree of the paMicipanis were from the ClA 6 Technical Services Staff. The Detrick representatives wen' all from the Special Operations Division. Acconling to one CIA official, the Special Operations Division participants "a^neeil that an unwitting experiment would be desirable." '^ This account directly conliadicts Vincent Ruwets recollection. Ruwet recalls no such dif^i'ussion- and has asserted that he would remember any such <li^cussiorl Wause the participants would have si i-enuouFly objectefl to te>iinc on unwitting subjects- '^ In May. VXCK, Richard Helm?, .Vs^istant DDP. held a staff meepnp which the Chief of Technical St^rviccs Staff nltended. At this meeting Holms "Jndicateii that the ilni;: [LSD] was dynamite an<l that he shonlil be advisej at all times when it was intended to use it."" In afldiiion, the theji DDP, Frank Wisner, sent a memorandum to TSS statinp the requirement that the DDI' [K-rsonally approve the use of LSD. Gottlieb went ahead with the ex|K?rimcnt," securing the ap: . . . . .
SOD
'MefDonndum
p.?.
of Col. Vlnreoi
Ruwet. To
Whom
It
Buwet Memorindua], p 3
'Joseph
B. Trea*tfr. A>K- Ynrl rmr*. 7/lP/7f>. p. I, Mptnornrnlum fur the R#Mv>r<f frojii T.Tman Klrkp;alrirk.
.
IT/l/M. p
1.
..
..
r.
liL^in-clnrGeri^nl Iiiury, I2'iv:^, /''^rf. Pr Gotr]'ih hne ie*:fifi<'4l ttiof he drw* nftt rMiM-mtt^r Hfher the meerinp with IJflnis Ti-'t Thi" Wi>ner mi-nioranduiil- (GotTlieh. ]0/l,\'75, p. 16
I
7G
396
proval of his Jmniodialc snixrvisor. Neither thp Chi**f of
the
DnP
TSS
nor Ol&on
Accordinp in Gottlieb-** a "very small dom" of LSI) was placed in ft bonk' of Coiiititau which was scr\f^ afur diniior on Tliuredav, NovenibtT H*. The drup was pliici^il in tlji- liqueur bv Robert LgshKbrook. All but two of the SOI> panicipanis rec^ivtd L*SD. One did not drink; tin; otiicr had a heart condition,'' Al^out twenty minutes after they fiiiL:^]ied tlieir Coinlreau. Goilhvb iiifonnej the other parthey h:\Oi reioived l**^!). Dr. Gndlieli stated that "up to the lime of the experiment " he observed nothing: unusual in Ol^onV Whjvior,^"' Ojkv the esprriment was underway. Gottlieb recalled that nhe drug had a definite effect on the^Toup to the point that tliey wen- boisterous and Jau^hinp and ihev could not continue the meeting or engapp in sensible coneersation,^' Tlie meeiin;* continued until about 1:00 a.m., when the participants retired for the evening. Gottlieb recalled that Olson, among others, complained of "wakefulness" during the nicht-" According to Gottlieb on Friday morninp *'aside from sontc evic^nce of fniipie, I observed nothing unu-ual in [Olson's] actions, conversation, or general behavior."" Kuwct recalls that Olson '^appeared to be aritated" at breakfast, but that he "did not consider ihi^ to be abnornml under the
tit'ip;int->lhiif
circunijtanres."
r.
*"
Tnafm' t\t. The following Monday. November l*3, Olson was waiting for Ruwet when he came in to work at 7:-^) a,m. For the
T/t<
and family attempted to reassure him' and help hiri^ '*=^nap out" of what appeared to hr a serious depression. On Tne?^day, Olson again came to Kuwrt and. aflir an liour lon;^ connext
(hiys Olson's friends
CHniipl t*?hfli(I Uiat "fiten the infnrm.iiion we kn^w up to tbis time. aiHl Na^od on a I*t of mir oi\n wlf ndmini'irratjrtn. we ih/iucht li wis m Tairljbenipn *uliani^ in lerms ^-f I'oiiNtinl harm." This i^ in omiBiit ii"t only with Mr, IIfLnl^' if.-i1t'mt*Dt ImiI qUii uiih ojai'TJitJ ubirlj hud \ytrvu tiupiiUiil lu tUe Tfdmlcat Ker^i'P'; SiufT. In one I.mc m^-miirjuilmi] on rurrent resfjnh wiTh nhicb
two
Dr.
ws
LSD
lleeoh^r de^rrn*eil ihe doTLiri-rs iriTalveO with Furh manner "Thi' fteotod ren*nn lo dnulu Professor Rothland oiiiii" whi'ii ] rui^eil Tlie gueMiOu as lo an> arcident.* whltli hoU men from tbe um- flf L;^|>-1!;( lie s;jid in very iM**ith> wiy, iK^oe/ kv li turned out thi<^ nn>tver e<>uUl In" ealU-d orerly positive, fur later on in t\w eveninc I wo;* di'^''U>>inc rhe mairrr witl* Ir W, A, SrnhJ- Jr.. a |'*yehlatn*t in BleuIera'T* Oinir in Znnrh where I hod ennt- at R-^ihlund* InnMenre, Stohl, when aske^l fhr h.inie qiie^ijoii, re[ilLed. 'j^^S and added ^[oniaiieou>ly. 'there in a ca*te Profohrir R'^niKind knnns al-'iui. Jn Geneva a ^tllnla]| phyMciaii whi> bad L>een sultjf*-t til de|>ro<^irin Xn 9mj\w exieni f'vik LRP-l*" in an esi*erinieDt and became Sfvfpi"]y diid huddi-nly di^re-'^^ed and oomiulrted unindr three week* later. Whilf ilie oniitipri ion i^ no( dt-liiiiie. rmuiutni knnuJed;:!' of Ihi^ (vntld linrdly bale nll-.wfd rhe p-iwiTiv** sJati'meni R*fihhind iieriiiJUeU himself. Thi-* rae is a uanUriL- tn U! to avoid enfiii:mc >uhji-i-r>^ nh^t nre de]>reKs>^l. or nh<* \va\'- L-ev^u MjI'itTT iiP doi-ri^^ion."" Pr <i..iilleh lestifieil ihar he had nn rei cdleciti'ii of either the ri'|iin or that iwniiiilar w-ciion nf W. iSidnej Gililipt te>fim(m\ 10 Kf/T:.. |i 7S.> "-Mpm-^randum of Sheffield Edwjrd-* fnr the record, 11/2^/5^. p. 2.
su|>niied fo Ts>I.
Hfnry
rewarcb
in a prophetif
^iimnmry ^. T.i;*. 7,V p. 3 ^'noUlifhMenionniduna. 12'T/M \'. 'Kdrtftrd,'i ineiiu^nndnm. ll'lJN r3. p 3. f^^iFTheb niem'ifanduni. l2'T/rfc3. |i 3.
"^
Iihl'rHHik
isfafT
i;.
*^
Ruwei
Eueniur'^ndunJ.
p. 3^
it
397
versation, it deMrable.'^
was decided
tliat
l>r-
Olson was
Ruwel then calJe^l Lashbrook and informed him that "Dr. Olson was in serious trouble Dndneedpd immeiliote professional attention." ' Lashbrook aprei-d to make appropriate ai ranfrements and told Ruwet (o bnng Olson to Washington. I>.C. Ruwet and Olson procwded to nashjjipton to meet with Lashbrook, and the three left for New York at about 2:30 p.m. to meet with Dr, Harold Abramson, At that tune Dr. Abramson was an allerpisi and immunolocist practioin^' medicine m New York City. He held no degree in psvchiatry, but ^aii ai-.Hiaicd
by the CIA.
nnnh.b
lU.'-os.^^
the
resvHicb projects supported indirectly and Dr. I-ashbrook both followed his work closelv
wuh
e;irl^
-Since Ol^w.n needled m.^diml Jielp. thev turned to as the doctor closest to Washington who was experivlie
CIA,
riiUMiJratMjj^ wuli Abr:inison. Thev spent Thursdav ni^ht in a I-o7iir U\-.n^^\ ho(fI ;uid lln' ncxt niorninp returned lo t>ie cilv with Ahram^on. In furthi-r dis-^u.-sions wiih Ahranwm- if was acreed that t:)l>on f^hniild be phirtd under rpi:uljr p5\chiatric care at an " inMjimjrn clo-iT lo his hon-r
fi^r
Ruwpt^ I^ishl.nrf-k.nnd 01s<>n remniiied in New York fortwodavsof consultafjonp wjib Ahnimson. On Thursday, November 56, 1953 the three fli u bnck lo M'H>hini:fon so tliai OI?on muld speuil ThanksMrinir with hi^ fjuuily. En mutt- from the airpon Olson lold Ruwet thai he waj= f>lr:iid to face liis family. After a Icnprhv discussion, it wa^ denifed (jjat Ol.snn and I.nshlirn->k ould return lo New York. And that Ruuet w-iuld ^'o t<> Fn-d.'ri;k to piiihiiii thfSi- events to Mr- Olson * L:i^-hhrr.,,k imJ OImiii flru bark to N.' York the same ihiv, acain
TJn /'v'M- Recau^- they rouM not obtain air transportation for a reiuni tr:p r>r, Friday nipht. Lasl.hrook and Olson made reservations for >:itiird:iy rnoinin- and clicked into the Sta(Kr Hotel. Between ho t,n,r tliPy chcrki^i in and IOmK* p.n^; ihey watched television, MMted the r.>. ki^iiMounpi^ whrrv each had two martinis, and dinner Accon inp to f^.h .n.>k. lUson -wa. cheerful and appeared to enjov the ei^tenainnunt. f?v *aj]K^an^d no lonper p^irticuVin- depn^sfid, and almost the Dr. OUon I knew prior to the experiment."" After A\\\\wi' I^Tshhn^k and Olron wnti hed televij^irm for about an hnur. and at 11 mKL CH^on su^^rps.od that thev po In bed. savinp that ,'^^/*'"-I'*".^./*'l'>:*I ni"l conlLnfed than he }ad sin-e [thevl came n Nrw -^ j.rk. Oj^on tlx n Irfr h call with the hotel otH'r^.tor'tn wake ^em in the inorniniT. At approximntelv 2^<s a.m. Saiurdav. November :.^. J,^shb^ook was awakened by a lond "crash of plass/" In his ^f^>^^^l "Vv that 01^>n "had crashed ihroiiph ''r^X'T:^ }'' 7\}Ta ""Vwmdnw t)ie rJosi ft blind and theclos-d window and he fell lo his death irom thf W indow of our room on the lOrh fli.ior."<
d.
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l-.i.^h6ro<li
Han>lU
p 2
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lmnrd:airly after findjjip ihat Olson had leapt to his death, Lashbniok it'lcj^Iioned (iottlii-K M Jus homr aid informed him of Xhf incident.'* Gottlieb called Ruwef and informed liim of Olsons death at approximately 2 ;4r> a.m." Lflshbrook then cnlled the hotel desk and reported the incident to the operator there. I^shbrook called Abranison and informed him of the occurrence. Abram=on told Ijashbrook he "wanted to be kept out of the thinp completelv/' but later chanppd his mind and jiyreed to assist Lashbrook.*^ Shortly thereafter. i)nifi>rmed police officers and some hotel emEloyeescanje tn Lasj|})rook's r^fom. Iishl>rook toM the police be didn't now why Olson Imtl committed suicide, but he did know thai Olson
>^
"suffered from ulcers." " e. Th* Aftet-m^th. Following Dr. 01son> death, the CIA made a su^tantial etfort to ensure tliat his family received death benefits, but di*l not notify the Olsons of the circumstances surrounding his demise. The Apency nlso made considerable elforts to prevent the death liein<! connected with the CIA. an*! supplied complete cover for Lathht-ook so that his association witlj the CiA would remain a secret. After Dr. Olson's iV'iwh the CJA conducird an internal investigation of the incident. As i>ail of his resj*onsibilitie> in this invpsti^'atioii, (he ficuenil Omnsel wrote the Insi>erior (lejieral. statinp:
nnt hrti>py with what seem? (o be a very casual attitude on tlje part of TSS ri-j>n-scntiitive^ to tin- way tliis rx|>erinjrnt was romlmlrd jind the renjark? thai fhi^'is just one of ihi- risks runnin;; with scirntitic exiH^imontiition. I do not
Tm
eliminate the need for taking risk?, hit I dn lielieve, especially when human health or life is at slake, that at least the prudent, reasonnhle measures whirh vKw taken to mininjizetlie risk must Iw taken and faihjn' (o do so was culpable nefflipcncr. The actions of ibr various individuals concerned aftereffects of the exiwrimejif on Dr. Olson i>erame manifest also revtaled the failure to obs<'rve normal and reasonable
precautions.'^*
a result of the investigation DTI AUen Dulles sent a personal 1 etter to the Chief of Technical Operations of Hip Technical Services St.-jtT who had approved the vxi>erim<'nl crilicitinp him for "poor i>[ciir,iTent ... in authorizin:: t)' use of this dru*ron sin^h no unwjttirr/r baMs and wiihout nroxinnUt' me[h,'al .'ia f.'pnn rd^." '"^ Dulles al*io sent , a letter to Dr. f^nttlieb. Chief of tlje Cheuiiral Division of the Technical -Services Staff, rriticizinc ^\m for recnnimendin^ the *Mnwtinp apphcalioit of the dni;r" in that the nroi>o.-.al "diH not pive sufficient emphasis for medical collaboration and for the proin-r consideration of the riphisof the individual to wljoni if was beinir adminisrere<l.'"
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As
T\\
,
"HiiwPT
3.
r^^
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3.
VM>-iimrntic1iim from thoGAripral ronn-iel tothr Tnvfierliir G^ntral, ^/^/54. M<'m'.rjM"liin^ frmi. fH"! i Thiif, T#v*tini.-ti Ol^emf i-.Jis. l^yi. 2'12'W. ^Mi'innrntntimi from UC\ %o Rjj^ii'v G'trrljH-. 2'12 '"4.
,
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leUere v^re hand carrieil 1o the individuals to be read and returned, Allliouirli tlio li'lti-r-s wen- criti'-al. a nut*- fi-oni the Deputy Director of Central Intelli;,'e]icf to Mr. Ht^lni> instructed Jiim to inform Iho individuRls that "Tliesc arc not I'epnniands and no personnel file nolniion an- being made,'" Tlius, altJiough the Rockpfrllcr C<nimission has characterized them as such, these nofos wpi'e explicitly jioi rejiriniands. Nor did participation in the events whirli led to Dr. ()I>oirs dciith liave any ;i|"parenl effri't on the advanoeninit wiihin tin- C"J A of tin- individuals involved.
:
Thf
The
SuiTepftf^'outi Adtnhi/.--fr/7f,'oi' of LSl> to Unwiftifi^ XonVofunteir Subjrcftt by ffi( CIA Afftr the Death of Dr.
Human
Ohon
Thr death of Dr.
staniTi.
It
Ol.son could
l>e
ri*^k&
thai
lo
lie
beni<rn.
death of l)i'. Olsor^ the dan^t j> f tlie sum^ptitions administnition of I^^D wei-e clear, yet the CIA continued or initiiited-' a project involving the surreptitious ndminiitnition of LSD to nonyohmieer Ijuniiin suhjecisT Thi^ pro;:rani cxikjrmI ninnrroup individuals in tlje I'iiiied Stale? to the risk of deatli or seriouji injury without their jnf<frnied conpent, without jiiedii-.'il >n|iervi?ion. and without necessary follow. np to drfinnine any lon;r'ter'm elfrrts. Prior 10 ilie Ol^on exjH^nnietit. the Dire;'tor of Centrnl Intelligence had nijMovc-cl MKILTKA, a resrarch program desipned to develop a "Ciipabilily in the eoveil use of bioloL-ii'iil and cliemiral agent iii;it.rials " In the pn>|>osal desrrilinp Mr, Helm?, then ADDP, wrote the I director that
llie
After
MKTLTRA
development of a chemical material wliirh cau-nes a ^ev^r^ihle non>loxic al*errant mental state, Ihe ^pi-i i(i4' naiiiT-e of whicli ran Ik' reasonably well predirred for eiiefi individual This mnierin] could potentiallv aid in d]-rrpditiii;r individu:i]>. eliririn-: information, and implantinp suggesiion.^ and <nher form- of menial control" On Fehrunrv 12, ln,^^, the Dinrior of the Central Intelligence Ai'iiiry wrote TSS offirial^ criti-'izijig tlicni for '^poor judgment" in "dminisienng I>D on "an unwitting ba-=is and without pn.ximale medi>:il safeguards" to Dr. i^\>i^u and fui the l:uk of "proiier consideratjt.ri of the npht^ of ilu- jmlividnal to whom it was being adminj&tered"*OJi thesiune day, ihe 1 n.-^jiivt or General irviewed a reiwrt on ^nl^projen Numl-er 3 of MKlLTIiA, in which the same TS?; Oflir. j> who hnd juM reieiverl letters from tlie Djreeior ireu- quoted as stui][ig tliat one of the purposes of Subproject Nnndx^r 3 was lo
tht^
wc*
intend to investigate
told rhr Committee that ihr proj.-rl l-rp 'n in lf:a U-d III Dr. OUon'i d^ath waf iinrt of the nnjtTr
Ml Ri-pnrt. whieh d<-^ri^i-d Iht iroJ<TT iurotviDp the (iiirr^ptllious amlnittrnrinn of LSD, pTnced tli^ pmjcrr I*<*pfi(iinc In 3**-V. Oth^r CJA documenr> revel tLat it was io l*^tptire ns earlv a* T^lTuarj VX^ Thr CIA ba*
19(1-1
Thr
-'Xi>*rioient
which
|^M'niorniidiim frnni AI>I>I' ir^'tii^ f^^ In" J |>iiUr>. 4 '3'^. tol- .^, p 2 Mru."r/>n.liirii fr-mi Ih'J io SirU,-.v fJmilji'h. ::/lJ '54 ; auj m.^morandum from
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questioned after ^observe the beliavior of un^rittin^^ pennons being that Subproject having been given a drug/'" Tl.ere is no evidence Numl^r 3 was terminated even though these officers wereion of LbD ^^^fl^ surreptitious ftdministra calh a^var^ of the dangers of the medical and^henece&sitv of oblaininpinformedconsenf and pn>VKhnn which showed safriruorJs, Suturoject Numl-er 3, in fact, used methods tlie safety and even less concern tlian did the OI-SON experiment for the project secuniv of the participants. Yet the evidence indicates continued until 1063.*' , , , . u* ^*i--. conducting the test might make projert. the individual In tinselected at random in a bar. initial contact wiili a prospective subject He would then invite the person to a ^^safdiouse where the test drug food. CIA perwas adininisttrvd to the subject iluouph dnnk or in test, or observe sonncl micht debrief the individual conductmg the an adjoining recorder the test by using a one-way mirror and tape
,
>'
obviouslv not obtained from any of the subjects. obviouslv, no me^lical prescreening. In a<KlUion the were not miahhed scientihc tosts wer-e conducted by individuals who hand either to a<lmmobser\>rs. There were no medical peisonnel on no follow-up was con istcr tlic dr^p> or to obsene their elTecls, and ducted on t lie test subjects. As t lit? Insi>e' tor General noted in 1963: is A sipnificant limitation on Uie effectiveness of such testingreobs'rvation of the infeasibilitv of perfonniii^: scientific not (iiialific^I suh,^. The [indinduuls t'ondurtinp the te^] are besruntific observers. Their subjects are seldom accessible yond the first hours of the test. The testni? mav l>c useful in surface perfecting deliverv techniques, and in idenufvinjr
t\tis
in a
of
the (est subject ha? become ill for of instances hours or davs, incliidinp hospit^ilization in at least one case. and the api-nt could only follow up by guarded inquiry afierlhete^ subjeii^s reiuni to nonunl life. Possible SJCkne^s effects and attendant economic loss arc iiUinvnt coiitint-enl of ilie testing." ftifel PanidoNicallv. premier care seems to have been tjikon for the In spveral foivipi natioiiLils against whom LSD wa^ nsed ahroiid.
numUr
performed pnor
to the use of
LM>,
Chief, TnPiK-crion
and
Rcvle^v. oo
MKULTHA.
V."3.
Melanin AcVordiai! to tbe ICs *Dner la lf3, phj MKri.TRA could benifld^avAilal'leinanf-mertPhcr-
;w"
a^^Uted
-rilb
r.T*rnrioiil
fiamliiaiion of xi^ftM^i^i UM* nf LSP thread took Ibp piitl(.n ttiat "no i-hj^iml TSS trained personnel A pbjslis rniuired prior to admiDistroiioB of ILSD] by
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Moreover, the admiiustration
was marked by constant obseragainst vation maxle possible because the material was being used
l)roa<l
prisoncra of foreign intelligence or security organizations. FmaUy, int*rroca*ions abroad, local physicians during certain of the were on call, though these physicians had had no experience with LSD and would not be trfd tli at* hallucinogens had been administered.** The CIAs project involving ihe surreptitious administration of to untitling human subjects in the United States was finally hahed in 19U3. as a result of its discovery dunnp the course of an Wh^n liwpt^oloi- General survey of the Technit^al Services Division. the Inspeiioi Geneitl leuriie<l of tliu project, he sp<^e to the Deputy Director for Plans, who agreed thai the Director should be briefed. made it clear that the DCI and his Deputy were pejierally The He indicated, however, that he was not familiar with sun' it was necessiiry to brief the DDCl at that point. On Mav 24, ll0:Mhe DI >r advised the Inspector General that he had briefed the Director on tl^c MKI'LTKA program and in particular had covered the question of the surreptitious administration of founwittinp Imniau suljjects. According to the Inspector General, the DDPsiiid that "the Director indicated no disagreement and therefore
LSU
LSD
DDP
MKfLTKA,
LSD
draft report on
MKl LTKA
was
prepared bv tlio lii^penor (ieneral who recommended the termination of the surreptitious administ rut ion project. The project was suspended
ItisimtIof GoJieial's rejMjrt, On December 17, 19Ca, IVptiiy Director for Plans Helm? wrote a who V it ht he lntj>ei'tor General and tiie Executive memr> to the Diieotor-Coni}Hroller hud op|osod the coveit testing. He noted two jfts|H*rts of Ih.' problem: <1) *"foi over a decade the Claiulesiine Senice?i ha? had the mi&^ion of maintaining a capability for influencing luiman Iwhavior:" and ^2) 'nesnng arrangements in furthei-ance of this mission >!jotild l>ea5o|erationally rcalisMi: and yet as controllable
t
DDCL
that tlie individuals niu:*l be "unwitting'' as this was "tlie only reuliMic nietho*! of maintaining the capability* considering the intended o|>orational use of materials to influence human behavior a? the operarional targets will certainly be unwitting. Sh<iild rhesul'jectsnf the testing noi lie unwilling. lie program would
as poi^ihle."
Helms arguvd
and should be adnjlni^terwl onlr ri.imlTintifni . , Jiiid i'* efT.'ii." <NJpdi'|..v i^r 111 (he jtr*.n.T .if jt vlivvi-uin " h" t^ad utiidipd if raiiitiim frpm .l;im^ AiicU-loii, Tbi.-f, r.iuntpriiHHIii;riirH SiafT to Chief of Oi-tiinlrs*
|ri-i'efl'd
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::.
with rbe
of
Hipriijtl
ItrPiik^rmji wliirli
would
^ , ^. hnfn- thar ibej ivfudd miWe s diaftmeis U- useful in discn-ditinF Ibe iBditidual Tvbo
lv
Wii* llf stihJH't cf I hi' riA inii-n'^l, " M*-iji.ir.iiidnm fcr Ihi' Rrt'.^rd jroiiumt
Mip
In-^i^ii^ior
General, Vl5/o3, p
'Jbut.,p.2.
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]f orir ^rraiits the vnlidiiy of the tnissioit of luninlnitiinf; this unusual r!i|*;iiilily and tlK- iuK'es?:ii> for uiiwiltiii^ testing. tljciL- Jbonly tlirri rhe qm-stioii of how best to do it. Obviously, tlu' tt'Stiijji }iould be conduct t-d in such n manner &s to permit tilt* o|i|>ort(jiiitv to observe thi- results of the t dm ini strati on on the tiirifct. tt also ^oes witliout s:iyinfr that whatever testin;; urranp incnt we adopt mu>t afToid mn^tiniuin safeguards for the jiroli'CtioiL of tliv A^ciK-y's role in tliii^ activity, us wi.n OS minimizing the possihiliiy of physical or emotional daiiiafie to the individual tested."
tn the Director of Central Ijitellii^cnce in June, nK>4, IIiImi> a^-niin nii-eil the is^ne of unwii(in;z te-Jtinp. At thai time Gfnpnil Carter, then actinp DCl, approved several chants in the t>rr^'raTn propoi^ed by Mr. Helms a? a result of neprotiafions boMvetn tin- Insj*otor General and the D1->P. In a handwritten noip. however, Diivctor Carter adde*l that "unwitting testing will be * siihjei't to a st'panite decision." No spr'cific decision was made then or soon after Tlie testing had been hnJred and, arrnrdinp to M'alter Elder, E\ecutive Assistant to DCI M-Cone. the DCI was not inrlined to take the positive step of auf hfirizinp a resiimpf ion of the testing. At least throuph the summer, the HTfV did not pnss tJie issue. On November 9, l&W, the raised tlie issue apnin in a memo to the PCI, calUnp the Director's atientinn to wliot he drscrilied as "several otlier indications c^nrine the past yenr of an apparent Soviet appressiveness in the field ot covertly administered chemicals which are, to say the least, inexplicable and dislurhinp."'*' Hflms noted that because of tlie puspen'^ion of covert test inp> the \:en(y's ''positive oi>eratif>nal capahilily to use drups is diminishinp owin;: to n lark of iralistic testinp. With iitcreasinp knowledge of the stateof theart- we are less capable of stay inp up with Soviet ndvanees in this (i*ld, Tlii^ in fum n'?iull5 in a wanijip capability on our pait to restrain nthni-*: in tht* infellipence community (such a*= the Department nf I)efens4' from pui-suinp oTe rat ions in this area."" Hehns attributed thf cessation of the unwitlinp testinp to the hiph risk of embarmssinent to the Apenry ns well as the "moral problem/' He noli'd thai no belter cnvert situation had been devised than that wliich had been used^ and that "^wc have no answer to the moral
In nr'ther
mrmo
MKCLTHA
DDP
issue,"
Ib'hiis asked for either resiunpi inn of the testinp project or its definitive cancnllation. He arpuod th,Tt the status quo of a research and de^elopn-rnt prnprain witliont a n-alistir testinp proprani was cansinp tlie AL't-ii'v to live "with tlie illusion of a raiMuility which is becoming
minimal and furthermore is expensive," '*(>m-ea^ain no fomial action was taken m response to the Ilehns* request.
from DDP HHqis lo DDCI Carter, lZ'lT/fi3. ^Ii^aii.riiinJinufromDUrHeJmsionCl. ii/0/W,|j. 3.
Menif^rtinflun)
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the oarly l&50s until its termination in 1963, thi'piopjamof surn-iuil ions mlminisl rat ion of I>il) to uiiwiitinp nonvolunteer human subjects <1rmonsIrates a failure of the CJA's leadership to pay adequate attention to the rights of individuals and to provide effi'f^tive guidance lo CIA employees. Though it was known that the testing was dan;rrrous, the lives of subjects wci-e placed in jeopardy and thrir rights trpre ignored durinj: the ten vears of testinp winch followed I>r- Olson's diath. Althou^rh it was clear that the lows of the I nitedStaic:^ wi-reU-iiig vi<lateil.lJie testing continued. 'WJiile the individuals invoivt^d irt xUv Olioji expirimenl were admonished by the Director. >it tiie same time they were also told that thev were not being reiirinianded and that their *'bad jud^rnienl'" would not be made pan of tht-ir personnel records. Wlien the covert ternting project wcsterniinored in r.Ki:s, none of the individual? involve*! were sub eel to any dj^vipHnury action.
irs bepinniiiff in
i
From
4>
the Ti^tl-ng
CIA
Sele.1 Committi^e found 7iuniprous failures in the monitoring and control of the testing itnd use of chpinicjil and luologiral agents ^illiin the (TA.'* An nnjilysi'^ of the fuilurcscan Ix' divided into four sections: (a) the waiver of normal re^rji^-nion> or requirements(b) the problems in anih.^nzjtion proivdun-s: (cl the failure of internal review mediinn=m'^FU''h as ihoOffi.-f of General Coiins*d. the Inswctor (lem'ral.cin.Mhe Au.ln StiiTf: und (d) the effect of compartmeniation and competjMoii within the TIA.
The
JJuvrtorof
.
.
of Admihiftrnfirr Cohfro?*.Thp infernal control^ w'jtljin any ;grjicy rest on: (!) clear and coherent reguhitions- ('>) clear liies of u.tthoriiy: and (ri) clear rewards f.r tho^e who conduct tl.em^ht-:; ni ;iri-ord wiiji agejiiv regulations and understan<hl.lp and immediate ^anrijon^ against (ho-<^ who do not. In the case of the testingand u^e of cl.rmical and biologl.al ugcuL-. norm:iI CIA administrative controls weiv waived. The destruction of the rifcument<on the largest CIA i>mgram in thisai-ea cnnstifuted a prominent example of the waiver of nnnnal Agein'v pnNvdures hy the Director ,wT^V- l'**'""'*^^^'-^ ^^'^'"^^ destri^yed in cjirK ]f7;i at the oVdi-r of then I>( I Jurl.jrd Hilnis. According to Helms, Dr. Sidnev Oottlieb. then
o.
The Wtin-tr
TSD:
were destroyed- And 1 also Ik^Hcvp part of the reason for our thinking this was advisable was there had been n-lationships with <>uisidej-s in government agencie^^i and other organizations aibd that thes.' would \v sensitive in thi^ kin<l of a thing hut that smce the program was over and finislnd and done with, ^v^' thought we wmdd just get rid of the files as
came to me and said tha( he was retiring and that I was retiring and he thought ir would l>e a goort ulca if Ihe^ filp^
.
lo
"^J!*'""r, -*'^i
wmca
ruli-s,
?'^ -^ in-frurrs thr rormitti to imin^ rhe >itPfi! &ia^-; in^eirit-eno- utfcncips nre fforempd br EvecuUv# Or^^r-^ or repilatlonji pithpr pubL>Lfd ur seirer"
:
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I njtf^d
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404
^'s;>W 11 be^subjt to
Oi*^*" follow-up or
you
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P.'.vem of
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405
lions
Ollf r Affonry piwrcJiire^. i.t, the forwarding of documents in Fuppon of in\oiresflnd rhe provision for ropilar aiiHil piwedures
'.'*
A^n Dulles r,rrnSMJT'i''xiJ't'^- noUnp thai security '^''r" approved MKl LTRA, considcralions pircluded handling the project throuph usual contractual acwmpnts
^"^
^'^'
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^^
aud^r the books of contrariors in the CIA ha <f been unable to verify ih*' use of Airenry irrunfs bv .i contrarior. Another nmi had failed to establish controls and sn ft^irna nis whirJi would asSUIT j>)oprr nccoiinlabihiy" in iiw- of ^vPijunent funds with the result thnt "funds Jiavp l>een used for pnrp**^^ not coniemplated bv ^''''' ^^^'^*^^ "^'"'^ ronfrnrf relat i^n.Mup/' ' Tlie entire ^I'S^TM^^t^" AJKl arian-rnicnt was condeinned fr.r bavin;: ndniinistrative lines wJiich were UTiclenn overly pennii=sive coi^lmU, and irrespon' sihjt' supervision.
TenvearslatorinvestJcationsofMKrLTl^\Lvbotluhe'lns^^^ Oenerol and (he Audit SufT noted substantial deficiencies ^hich resulted fi-om thp waivers. Because TST) had nor re?^rv*^d the richt to
MKTLTKA.
LTRA
'
The head of
the Audit Brjinch noltd that inspertions and auditsled u 5 to sev >1KT^LTI!A aR frvqueutlv liiivin;; provided a device to<^>cape noinuil adniii.isdalivr 'controls for research thai IS not esprruilly s*'n>kive. as bavin;: alIo\><>d practices that prodii'i' ;:ro?:s adujinistrative failuivs. as having perniiftod ilit^eMahli^hniNit f>f s|wml relalion-^liips with unrvliablo or;::nn/;.!iru^ on ail unsurrptable basis, and as havinp CrodiiFrd' '^11 ?it lrns( one occasion, a cavnlii-r treatment of a r>n;i ndicf>mractin;:oipanization.
,i,ni
n need for special mechanisms for handhrip-seiiMtive proierts. tlie Chief of the Audit Hranch wrote that -bcHh rh^j terms of refen nee and the ground rules for handling suib sperial j^rojoc ts should Iw spelled out in advance so chat diver si*iM from ni.rn>ril .hanncls <W-i not mean abandonment of controls ^pe^lnl jum. dur. s m:i\ Ik- nc^es&irv to ensure the securitv of hiphU sensitive oi>emtions. To |>revent the erosif^n of normal iniernal control mcf^hani*:nis. Mirh waiver,'^ shmild not be extended to less sensitive operations. Mnnover, only those rejulations which would endanger secnnty shouM be waivi>d; to waive refnilations cenerallv would result in hiphly sensitive and controversial projects having looser i^tli.r than strnhr administrative controls. >IKNAOMT, the Fort Orh ilk CTA project for r^^^arch and development of chemical and biofoprcal ap^nt-, provides another exiimple where efforts to protect the se. iirny of a-enry ftcdvlies nverwhehned administrative No written records nf the transfer of npents such as antlirax controls. or shelN nsh toxin wen' kept, "Woiuse of the sensitivitv of the area and the desire to ke ep any possible use of materials like this recordless." '* The
While admiftincv
there
may
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APPP HHm*
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m-'mnriindiim nucef^ti^ that admrniMrnflve exelmlnns. be<'na!te of the imj^irrnnep of rnrh (leci^inn'^. *hmiM iTirr^ rh# penmnnt npprOTal of th^ IVmirT nirpf-r^.r nt rnnrrnT lnt**IUi>nrv r> nn Imliriihuil raw Unsj^. Pnt*nf ciA r>o)ici ii^th.ii only thr D^I cnrt niitliorb,r cirTBin exemplinn*i from r^jrtilaifoD* S.rljii.v Gtnilivl. teMinn^ny. lO/J^A^, H^-arin?^. Vol. 1. p. 51
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before the Conamitli-c, authorization throuph lack of agreement
is
even more pj'cviilent iTiseiisilive situations,'* The unauthorized retention of sliellfislj lo\in b^- Dr, Nathan Gordon and his subordinates, in violation of a Presidential Directive, may have resuh4?d from the failureof the Director to issue written instruct ions to Agency ofTicinls. TJie retention was not authorized by senior officials in t)it Agency. The Dirt-rior, Mr. Helms, hau instructed Mr Karnmessines. the "Dcj) ty Director of PJahs, and Dr, (iottlieh^ the Chief of
Tecluiical Servjc^^^ Division, to relinquish control to the Amiy of any chcniica] or biolo^rical ai-pnls U^inp retained for the CIA at Fort Detrick. Dr. Gottlieb pas^'d this instnjciion on to Dr. Gordon, Wliile orders may he disre^ardrd in any orpinization. one of the reasons that Dr. Gordon used to defend the rclenl ron was the fact that he Jiad not received rt-riften i)isl ructions forltiddin^ it.*' In some situntions the existence of written instructions did not prevent unautliorized art ions. Ac.coi-dinp to an n vest ig:at ion bv the CIAs InsiH'Ctor General officers had been infor^^d orally that i/r, Ilajii^ \\^',\s to be ""advised at all limes" when was to be used. In addition hnd reteived a memo advising the staff thai was not to be tifcd witliout the permission of the DDP, Frank Wisner. The experinient involving Dr. 0]s4>n wont ahead without notification of either Mr. Wir^ner or Mr. Helms. Tlie absence of clear and immediate punishment for that a^t must undercut the force of other inleiTial instructions and re;:u^iiions. One last issue musi In* raised about authorization procedures within the Apency. Chemical ajrents wert used abroad until 1P59 for discrediting' or dis^ihlin-: o|>.^mti'>ns, or for the purpose of interrogations with the apj^roval of the Chief of O|)eration*i of the DDP. Later the approval of thp Deputy Dirertor for Plans was required for such operations. Althonph the medical staff sought to be part of the apijroval proccs:; for these Oj>eralions. they were excluded because, as the nspccior General wrote in 1057
i
T^D
TSD
LSD
LSD
Operational
DD, P
deienninations are the resiKinsibility of the and it is he who should advise the DCl in these
respects, just as it is he who is responsible for the results. It is completely unrealistic to consider assi^minp to the Cliief, Medical St:iK. (what, in effect, would l>e authority over clundivsiine oi^eration;;.)'"
Given the rxpertiso and traininf; of phvsicians, participation of the Medical Stall mipht w**!! have been u^i^fuh
Questions about auFfmrizJition also exist
in rejjard to lliosr ajrcncies
the CLV, For instance, the project involving the surreptitious administration of L.'<D to unwitlinc non-volun(oer human Eubiects was conducted in coordination with tne Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drujis. Thei-e is some question as to the Conunissioner of Narcotics' knowledge about the project,
assistcil
which
th? j^t^tr^n^ of hrin^np forward dpj-rrirtion of orri'PU<> \>j riif .*p-in y Jn cetiinc OMiporol (hroupli the ahM>nce of disj^rprnipnt :!'. a r*inimrn *inr re^pipiiil*i. -Jt n*i not unriinminn. . Tin* mor* sen<ii(ive
Mr.
rhi' r*n'jiH(
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88
408
the Inspector Genenil noted that tho head of the hnd i)ccn hrii-ftii b1h*ii( llie pniifirt, but iUc Ki d rc|>ort did not indicate tJie Jevtl of detail provjdea to him. l>r Gottlieb t^srified that **I rcijicjiiber mopling Anslinpor and had the general feeTJng that he wiis a.ware."'" Another CIA o(hcr did not recall anv discussion of t.^lingon unwitting subjects wjicn he and Dr, GottJieb'met with Commi'^ioner Anslineer In a mejnoranduni for the record in If'GT Dr. Gottlieb stated that Jlnrrv Gionlnno. wlia reilired Mr. An5liM;!cr, told Dr. Gottlieb that whrn Jie l*ci'ajtK' Coninus^ioiier he wus "only generally bricfod on tlie annngcrjientb, irave it his general WcSEing, and said hi- didn't want to know Uip details/" The same meniornrulum slates, howcier, that there \\ti\- Si'M-ra] f'oinnu'iiis which indicated lo l^r. Gnttlirb that Sir. Giord:ino was awnre of the siibstauco of the projctt. It is pos.^ible that thi' Commissioner provided a general authonz.'ttion for the arrangenitjtt wirliout undvrstunding wli^it it entailed or considering its propriety. A reluctance lo seek detailed information from the CIA, and tlie CIA's hesitancy to volunteer itj has been found in a number of instances during the Sel*Ht Committee's investigations. This problem is nt>i confined to liic excvutive branch but has olso marked congressional relationships with the Agency, c. Inftr/ioJ /iVivV^r. The waiver of regulations and the absence of doainjcntiition niiike it difficult to determine )iow who authorized \viiicfiartivitie5. More imi>ortantly, they made internal Agency review n*eclinnisnis mut'h l(^ss elTectivi-y Controversi:*! and hiplilv sensitive projeri? wliich fhould have been subject to the njost rigijrous"insi>ection Jucfceil effective intorn;il review. Given the role of ihe General Counsel and his reaction to the surrepiitions adminis-tration of to Di. Olsoji, it would have seenied liki'ly that he would be asked about the Jepalitv or nropi ietv of any subM-quent projects involving such administration. This was not done. iW dill not learn about this testing until the lI*To's. Xor was the General CpunsePs opinion sought on otiur MKCLTIIA projects, tliouch these had born characterized bv the Insix^ctor General in the I'SbT
In
l&C:^,
BXDD
Mr
LSD
Kenorl on TSI)a,=i '-unethical and illicit."-' Tliere is no mention in the report of the
survrv of
Inspector General's TSI>of tiie projet-t involving: tlie snrreptidcius administration of I>lK That projrct wasappareritlvnot brought to the attention of tin- srirvvy team. Tlie Inspeilor wjio (liscovrj-ed it durinjr the IG's 1^6^ survey of TSD recalls coming upon evidence of it inadvertently,
lO'iT
MKl'LTRA
In
19G3 sitated
^^*^^^^^ d.H'i.in.-nls jiiKHified fJint malntnin eiartlnc rwi, "7\T5,";"' JR-^ cM^irir> ]]] nn duinc h.m*vrr. bns rur^u^ a i.l>i v' ^J>1.' |OK.->i,h>- r.r m.nJnujiii <l<hinMil.Ttion in k^riiiiiL- wiih Ihp tiich M-n-^itivhT of ^.'mp OT liP i,roji<-f< S'ymu flU^ n*re found to present a tfaf-onabW c^niiiiHe r^^.nl nMiKhnc mosi ^f^nsirivp mnttt^r^. while oth^r- uith iMrallel oJ-jmivf*'^ conr.-jjn^
TPP TSU
Jittip
or no data nt
atl,
m^nT^'T.^^T*^''"^ "i""^ njpor HT\a fl^ml rontrolji." " CJA. Int^vctoT GMirrars
T)h- lark of r.i.-isT,^nt reftinU iirwIiNM ^i- nf r*.utiLP '**^*^ ^"^""^^ "f QiiMrioni ^nvtmiii^ manac<^
report on
TSD,
IWjT, p. 217.
89
409
rather than
its
^ ^ i the General Coiuisel and the Inspector General, the prinThus both improper actions, cipal inlenml mechanisms for tlje control of possiblyhei) the project were eicludeJ from r*pular reviews of the projiLt, was discovered the EiLtcutive Dire dor- Comptroller voiced strong opposition to it: it is possible that the project would have been lenrnnateJin 1957 if it had been called to hib attention when he then sened
sensnivepr-ojetl.'^
.v
us Iiispecloi'Gcnerul. , , serves an internal review function The Audit SiatT, which also through the exaniinaiion of Ageiicv eipenditnres, also encountered was first LTUA. When suLsi;rniial difli-.Jtv wiih
-
MKl
MK ULTRA
as well as the diffii^ultv in deiectinp them. The head of the Audit prot-^duivs a^ "having allowed Braiicii charaotcriied ihe MKL'LI practices that prodiK-ed gross adminisiralive failiiri'S." including a lock of contiol^ witliin outside conlrautors wliich would "assure proper accountabilitv in use uf govi-mment funds." It olso dimiiiifihpd the CJAs capaciu lo verifv ihi- accouniin^'s provided bv outside firms. d. VoiHi/tirt tn<nt<JtUln. arid Juri^JictioJujI Confict llVAm the and A<i<:7\'Cy.\^ has been noted, the leMing and use of chemical bibl'>picyl a;:i^nl- ^>a^ treatt-d as a hiplily sensitive activity within the CIA. Thi^ availed in a hipli A^iin^ of coinpurtnientation. At the same liniu substaniial jurisdictional conflict existed wiihin the Agency between the Tecljiical Svrvicf- Divi>i*3n, and the Oftii'e of Medical Services and ihr Otlive of Si vurit v. This coni|mrtnientation and jurisdictional conflict may well have led to dui^licarion of eiTori within the CIA and to Agency policymaker's beinp deprived of usi'ful information. Committee and then Durin;: tfjc earlv ISX's fiiM iJie the ARTiClIOKK 0nmiittee were instituted to bring together repiVM-ntiitives of the Aponcy components wlii<'ii hud a legitimate intercut in ihi' area of ihe alteration of luiman Whavion By 1937 both these
KA
BM'KHIRD
comniitteci; liad fallen iiiti* disusi'. No information wont to tlie Technical Services Division (a comjumcnt sup|>osedlv represented on the
AKTJCHOKK
operations being curjducied hv llie Oflice of Security and the Office of Medical Sernces. The Tfchnicnl Services Division which wa^ providing support lo the Clandestine Sirvia*s in Ww u)<- of chemical and biological agents, but provided little or no information toeither the Office of Security or the tliese proOffice of Medioal Services, As one TSD officer involved grams testified: ''Ahliongh we wei-e ac^juainted, we certainly didn't slinre esperience^.""
Committee)
al*f>ut
AHTK HOlvE
eomplPtf *ftpr ttae Ii)sr*ecior came up^n It the IC did do! perform <tt an eilenBlt* MtTff of TSD (nvesricanon of H- ll was di^eorered at the nd rl. * JnsjiHclor was In the i>roc*s of W\%\r- tranaferred to anotbcr post within Ihr Ac^'ncv, '^T^Ut\M,T\r of CIA offlc*^. 11/21/75, p.
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,=(annMl iiep:itiyf impact on policymaking' in ihc Apencv. As the Depuii- ( liL-r of (he roiml.TiiHenit-,'nc.Staff notp.1 in l<i:,S. to the dilT,-,i.,,t iK)s,lion. tuktn l)y TSS. tl.o Office of Sccurilv. atxt the Office ol Alcilical S-rvices on the iiso of clieiiiicnl or biological a"ents. it was
dm
poyible
thill 111*.
bioli.;.ncal
^^^^'^''"O" relevsi.l to its use." Even a committee set up bv the in 13..>s lo nileiripi to rationalize A;ri-ncv policy did not have access to reconis of lestin-r Hn<i use. This as du,.. in'part. toeicessive compnr1iiieni;ition. an.] jiiriwiictioiiul conflict.
individuHl who authorized the use of alchemical or aprni could I* presented i|h 'iiicomploic facts upon which
M."!!? iJIH
C. (-ovtnT TrsTiN.; ON Hi M.^v Siwrt-Ts in MiLiTAny Intxlligevce *'"'';.' Ti>TiN-r, I>k,-;r.m EA IT:*?, Th.^ikct T'lVt XV- V ANi> ( HANdK. rBo.iK(-rl)EHV
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THIRD
EA
for
lT:?r- is
the
<le^ij.nialr.r u^-.l in
the
(I.SD). InierM armiM-d at the Army-Mhemica! U'nrfnre I^N.Mtories bv open literattnv on the nmiKiinl efle.ls of the compound." The positive intellio.v and coimiei inlelhp.'cr polrntia! envi^oiicl for compounds like J>1). nnri yiisp^rte.I Soviet inrere-i in sch materials."" su|Von..d the ilevplopnicni of an Amrriran milit:irv cnpnbililv and resulted in ex(.^nmonr. conduced jointty l.y the T.S. Army Intcllipencc Board and *^
.liethyh.mi.)..
ly-n-icn.r
Army dnip
collectively ai= "MateriJ Testinp Propram ''- '"''P'-''f;';t.;"f p^l'^-i'larinterfST conducted as part of these ex,*rm>,.nt-. -1 JIIUI, and "DKliUy HAT", the admn.iy.aMnn of to unii,inp subjects in Euroi^. and the
"1 j-y.'^
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potential intelligence
u^s
EA
LSD
iHAXCK-
invoS
fill
J ^1(^1
involved the ea.lv ph;i-es of drup tesi'inp. In tiie VrmVs esis a. wh .ho.-e of the CIA. individual riphts were also suU^d^ n.iied to i.ni I. mil s.'.uniy,-on-tdeMii ions; informed con^nt and f..lto>vup exiimm;ili..ii> of subjects were uepleeied in efforts to mainiaiti the Hvive.v oftiie tests. > Uhilly. the comniami and .'outro! problem^ which e.v,M,p.,.t I'l tl>eCIA-spn.pr.ms are iir.ialtWedb'-., lack of clear """"""'-" "" "''I PuiK-r^ision 111 the Army's jiropiam^
he
n.-);.
ivspe.is. the Artuy-s te.tinp proprums duplicated l^Sfiirch hi.h ,a,I;.lre;H!yl.,-<.comh.eredl..i rhe (TA. Thev c^minlv
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Scope of Testing
BetAveen IW-S anrl lOSR researcli was initiated by thp Armv Chemical Corj.s (o evaluaic thp pot^rtia! for as a chemical waVfare incapaciiatmp agent. In the course of this researx^h. LSD iras odministered to moi-e Minn l.OrtI Anieiican volimteei-s wlio then participated In a series of tests designed to ascertain the effects of tlip drup on their ". r L ?, ^'""^"?" s soMiei-s. With the exception of one wt of tests a ton ilrapL'- tliose and siihscqiient lalwraion" experiments to evalu-
-I
LSD
ate eheniicai warf^ir.- potential were condiicf.-d at tTie U iirl;ti-e LaUtiiitories. Kdprnood. Sranland.
Armv Chemical
new scries of lalH^raiorv tei,ts were initiated at Ed"eood These cxpenmntts were conducled as the initial phase of Material Tt,np Progi^nj EA 1 720 to evalnate the intelligence
In
in;.>
;.
LM), and
tests,
1.
As
LSD LSD
social
tlie
participatinp;
2.
was administered surreptitiouslv at a simulated reception to volunteer subjects who "were unaware of
was administered
to volunteers
who were
quently polygraphed: and 3. LSD was administered to volunteers wlio were then confined to "isolation chambers".
subse-
fiimi .ViiLni-l to Nov..,Ml.er of VM- .<.-u-ii ^iil.ieets Wfiv inrei n>.-iled mnler Kliny .11 of h.,n, ere f,vi/. national" either sl^l pi'.ri<l of .IpmIui- in imivoti.s or iin|:li.al,d in f..rei"M intent.'cncc o|M-r,iiHm-. I|- p.ir-t.o.,-.>f i|,i-...v.>nd >rt
rurtnred experiments were desipned to evahiaie the vtliditv of the trailitional wciirilv training all s.il.jwts had undergone in the face of unconventional, drug enhanced, inierrwations At the <^nc)i,>ion of the ralHiralor^- test phase of Material Testing Program EA I.l'D ,n inf.O. tJie Army Assistant Chief of Staff for ]nt.-ll.g.-iuv (A( >I) authorized oiM-rational field testing of LSD Tlie nri hrtil le-i;; iv.-ie coii.liicfcd in Enr<.].r bv an Ainiv Si-crinl me l,.am (Sl'T) dining the i^-riod fiom'Mav to .\ug,!.i of PmI%1 Tl,ey<. t.sls w..,,. known as Project CllAXCK a.i,l iiMoIved eleven sepaiair nil..] lo-ation* nf ten snl.j.cts. None of tlie s.ibims were voliinicen^ .nnd n..ne were aware that thev were to receive '*"" ''"''if'"'- n ^"*'' soldier implicate.l in the theft of ;^ .: ; cb^Mheil 'iocmneiiis. were alleged to I* foreign intelligi^nce sources or agents. lA Jul,- (nierrogations of the-K^ in-lividiial* were niilv moderately suM'ts^ful. al Icnst one suhject (the T.S. soldL^r) eNhibited >yiiij.t..ji,< nf ^(.vej,. p:ii-inoia hil.- under the infliiciicf nf the drii" 111,. .-.e.-<.n,t .!en,.s ol fi..ld lP>ts. Pn.je.t DKKIt^' HAT. **ere conducted by nn Arn.y SJ'T in the Far l-^ist during the iM-riod
St
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TUMID
HAT.
of .-xivt uii.iil- ^^a<(ocnI l.-l a. .I,lio,i:i) d:.t,i nn ihi- iXiliiv of I>D i (icld inlrrro.Mi lns. and '"''"'"''' "".V diir.-ient .-11, ..t^ the .ling n.igliT have on "Orientals."
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.
Inad4:qua(eCooTdiruUionA7nongl7UeUigenceAgricitM On Oclober 15, 1959, the U.S. Army InUlJigencc Center prepared
conditions.'" It
tests
was on the
were lafer conducted. Afler noting that the Chemical Warfare Laboratories be^n experimenls with LbD on humans in 1955 and had administered the drug to over 1,000 volunteers, the "background'' section of the study concluded:
Jijere lias not been a single case of residual ill effect. Study of Iho prolific scientific literature on LSD-25 and personal
communication between US Army Chemical Corps personnel and other researchers in this field have failed to disclose aij authenticated instance of irreversible change being produced in normal humans by the drug."* This conclusion was reached despite an awareness that ther were inherent mHlcal dangers in such experimentation. In the body of this
&inie study
it is
noted that
a potentially dangerous dru^, whose pharmaceutical actions are not fully undi-rstood and there hus been cited the possibilitv of the ronfinuance of a chemically induced psychosis in' chronic form, particularly if a latent schizophrenic were ft subject, with consef^iient claim or representation against the IJ.S.
is
EA
1729
Government.^^* attempt was made 1o minimize potential medical haiards by careful selection of snhjecis prior to field tests. Rejecting evidence that the drug might be haznrdous, the study continued:
possible permanent damage caused bv 17''>9 IS an unproven hvpothosi<i based on the characteristic effect of the matenol. While the added stress of a real situation may increase the probability of permanent adverse effect, the resulting rixXr tJt ^^frned to br nUght hy the mediral re9tnrrh pentonnfT of tht ChemirtrJ JVarf^rr L/ihor{7t<nir.9, To prevent even such a slight risk, the proposed plan for field experimentation calls for overt, if pofssiWe, or contrivedthrougli ruse, if necessary, phvsiral and mental examination of nnv real situation subject prior to employment of the subject."*
An
The claim of
EA
ing
wliirh could be vety dniir the Army was proposing to field test. The t'SATNTC staff, hoivovpi iTjis aprarentlv unaware of the circumstances
T>r.
six years after one denth had occnrrvd attributed, at least in part, to the rffects of the
OUon's death,
Tliis lack of
knowledge
js
surroundindicative of the
10/15/W.
p. 4.
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rp
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94
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^fi'nor
7, lOriH, tlio
Aijhv AssiMiinT
ft
Clii*^f
(A{SI.
npi>!irriitly
Geruiiil AVillcnis)
1
of
pi-opos*^il '|kcr;irion;il
n^r uf
|ii'ij*m'|
ha*! noi
lh>{n
Kit I
fo
!'
:ii]>l till'
CIA-
III*
i**
iju'i'iul
as sny in::
|LSI>1 slionlil h*' n^A on li;rlu^r tv|*rs of non-r.S. Miljjri'i-" ill ni\i.-j \uniU "FrJlJlVl^/' }h- huVunioi] tlii- rotiltl 1k' ;<voniplislnMl if tlir <'IA wrrn bion^lit in. Tjjr sunim:M'V of iIk* It: iilijiir invi-.irnl Uy ;l M jJoiMcIioa ^k\ fotitinnpp "Of pniticiil:ir note ir^ tjjur A<'SI i\\*\ iiof iliiiTi rooi-ihiiiiiion with I'lA ntnl fho FIJI bnl only nioiiTifrn>il il fot ron^iilrr-arioh by tho plannei^." ''"
\xoirli
anylliiriij
ii
liputonnnl colonrls anil MajoiMi'lLO\sk\ \ut\ 111 ilisiii'^s JnTr*rn;:rniy roo]>rjation with CIA nnd FBI, Tlu' ;:rou|i (vij|x,.||<n, w:is lo poslponi* eftinis (ouar*! f^oonliniilioii:
Ja. Col. .Imofr^tn roniinoiunl that bcfoic \\r rooi-<1iiif\tf with
tuo
CIA
our
\\\t<
Ui- >[iniilil
h;nr
nii-rir;iiii>n
iMi-:;non
-A-^wrA
and (CI hy
inr>|>os;i!
f
lir iorjf"Ti"i'S.^"*
of
havi*
f>*-i'n
ii'i
vIimm'iI iblli-n-ntly
innii'i i'^*:n v.
and iUo
iv^i^^
lh*"ioH.'Kes
nii;;lit
iKivr \tfiu
M'i'ih
i. Snht/iJ'ii.it'fu>
07 I I'ltiriiffitt}
I*/tjht'i to Xtittoti"!
Seritr/ty ConBuf-
as ni:inv of ifio^r oxpijiinmis nmv ha\T Itcon nnnwc?wirv. th(^ nMim.' uf iiiH> o|MMatiorjaI tosfs ( |>oly?i:i|jh-a^siFrcil intoiTo;:ation> of ih'ij;;;:*'*! (<) ivilrcTs a h:i>i(* ihart';raiil for ihr fuinlamental Mi-l
-Tti-it
hninan
The
CHANCK
an Anicrinin nn exantplc of
.hilril ^-ptt^ni-
Tlu
1h-i
1 111'
-lii[i
*, li>"iL
li'>r'H :is
onuf -
iIh-
fuUi*" s
confosse*! lo fhrft of tlii->-<jiiril ilihuiiK-nts. <^)nvt-n(iiri:it nii*fho<l> had fuilrd lo a^iTilain whpthrr *"5|'iona;M' inn*nf was involved, si^roifninU iirw iidnn^'iiin by snhje'i llial hi' (old a frllow soldiri' of the \\\--U \\]\\\v lir Mill had fhi' *l"<"niiu*nis in his |>0'-st'v;ioii wjis oht:dned dnririL: the 1720 interM;iation nloiiL^ i1h ollin-
[Th** sulvii-rl]
was
T.S,
snhiit^r
who had
EA
vuiiafions of Snbjivl's
ml.
The
infen-o;-;iTion
resnhs
\\a'\^
deemed hv
"*
Ihut
lU/ft'OO.
|>
r
6''fil.
,1
"Si'T
Triji R<-Trl-
Oi^raUoii
THlRP CHANCE.
5.
"
MORI DocID:
163357
95
415
TJie subject appari-iitlj reartod vciy stionplv lo tl.c dru-, nnd tl,c l"od.tivc, fls difficult. Tl.e trip report
Til is case deii.onstrnted the abilily to interrogate a subject profilabJj tluoufhout a highlj sustained and aiinosi mcapacitat i-eacdon lo 1729. (1)
wSE-"*"'
my
EA
* slionntobeeffective. (4) Tlie need for preplanned precautions against extreme ""^me paranniac reaction to EA 17:i9 was indicated
ease tliat where sub'"'^"'^^'^ itenoeation prior to irio"^""^ ""ff'''*^ r. the 17:^9 episode and has persisted in a version leJeaied y inc ronvenuonal interrogation, adJiei'ence to (he sime ver.
stressed stale was indicated. tI"!'.'" "i" " ""S^'J {J) I Jie uscfuJness of cnii.h.jing as a duress factor the deyio.- of inviting Iho siibje.is atlentioji to his 1720uiHueiioed stale nnd thn-ati-ning lo extend tliis state indotiinlely even to a i>enn.inent condition of insanity, or to briiij. 11 to a eii a, tj,^ discretion of tiie interrogators was
^^\fj
EA
EK
(5) It
was brought
(o niiention hy
thil^
rf EA
dm
no.
son
q|,.
]n:.y
however extreme thM^aC not necessarih be evidence of truth but merely the ^
under EA
I7|;9 influence,
of trad^iontl me? is no evidence that pliysical violen " or .ortuiv were e,ployed in connection with this cal and psycliologioal techniques were used in tlieTHlRWHiVrF "^'^'' the suUcts- sltered mental state, and" ma.f nTJ'irT ' '"'"""" ''"^'''^'' ^'"'"^'^ "" ''^- meth^Kls in hiT"ip '
rog.it.on techntques. 1\ hile t]iere ^;M?' IV'r' '"'^"T^'^/Y'^"*^'?"^^
inteSl/ph
repo.;
,29 aJnunisii-ation. sustained conventional imortoEA I7:i9 interrogation, deprivation of evocation, sustained isolation prior ir'Fi i-?.^'^'''-' to l.^I^ administration, hot-cold piwh. d.i.e^ pitches", verbal degradation switches in apand bodily di^'*' ^'"""""^^ ""^'"^ * ^"''J<^"'s life or nJental li^alth!"1
S
-'^
EA
EA
.
.
oftl.edrugwnsconipfeledatlo:t,-.tl,.itino;niup:
w" given 6 mi' ogran.s of ].<!) per tilogrnni of bod' weight, flie admi niftr.Mon '"""'""str.Mion
hi!= pulse Wcanie threadv pluced in a sniiir i>siiion. He b..gaM groanin- ith expiration and became seniicniiiatose.'" p "
Ks.
Army's
DEHUV H ?T teMs
ri'-hts oc-
At
lliiO.
He w.
'"
ini,i
PI'
17-lK.
I.
Caw
#1. 9/20/B2.
MORI DocID:
163357
96 416
Tni xho ne\K 2P minutes, the suhjert I'emained senncomalisc. At II4, i-espoijses to painful stiinnli were sliplitly improved.
At
11
.^ri, lit*
vvnslicliH'd t(nsittiiip|X)?^itif>n,
At 1200,
lie
in<J
position. At li?12.he wosiiDorp alert andoWetosit npT^ithhelp. At 1220. SnlijoM was assisted totliP interropntiontnMe. At 12^0, he bc;riui inoaniiLg he wanted to die and usually j;;norrd nur>lins. Rarrly Jie stated '*lie didn't know." At \2:>\\ his pliasir alertness persisted. He freqnmilv refrK'MM^l lii-ejvs with eyelid a-vsislnnce. Ho frequently tlirew hi-'hestdhail; with eve.-: closed. At i:i:iO, he nas slightly more aleit. He was foi-ced-wnlked for becnnie : niiTMiti's, lie phy*!iVnlly wonld rooivrate imtil he shocUy a^niiu ( sweat in;:, thi-endy pulse, pale).'"
Vnv
same con-
interro^tion yielded no relevant answers, j^ix hniir> after rereivin;: the drup. the subject l>e^an giving relevant answers to questions. Eiiiht and one-half hours after the
dition,
roniinned
attempts at
iuiii;tl do-.:*;:!',
the subject
was
tinned
for 5(*ven(een
niiTiistered.
There was some i>syrholopical and medical screening of the indieidu.iU iisied within the Vnited States, in Enroi>e, and in
A-in, T!ie pro|>*^l for the field P3t|*erimentrttif>n in fact railed for sueh ex.nminntjoiis. Tlie faet of j>n'S4Teeuinff did tioi eHminnIr the ri-^k of iujury; tle avnilalnlity of medieal staff did, however, Jimit iuiury and uiiiv wpH liave prevented tlie deatli of one ornioro of the suijeets. A- the medical rorp^ member of the team which surreptitiously fidininistcn^d t lie LSI* noted. ''one subject ...did collapse after till" intoi M>;;:ition n)id the presence of the niedicnl offieer was not only of value to the subjiit but to the in(erro;:aliou lenm who were thu^ "^ ns-ured lliat an niinefe^^iirv nntownrd xesnll waiild not ocrur." In the Oetol>er If*. l!>.%l>/rSAlNT(* staff study- nionil and le^ral riujifii ntion> of coven admini'^tT-ation of T^^D in field conditions were considered.
Intclli^enec thai the basic a (enet of AiTM'rie:ni pfiiiriple of (he dipiity and welfare of the inIt
wns always
Army
dividual will not l>e violiiled, ... A more nKtindons T-e*:ard for the prohihitiun niniipi>t violence or diirc'^s is taken in pnu'tiec when llie ^us|n>el is a VS ritizen or ally as afjainst an rtctuni or |>olential enenu\ in peace as a;;;uii^l war. and in ivhpt-cl to thi' nature of the crime. ... In inielIi;rrTii*e, the stnke- involved and the inti'rests of national si'curity may permit a more toli-innt interpi-etatioii of moral-ethical values, , Any claim hut not le^ial limits, throu;:h uei-essiTy.
. .
'"'ii'"!..
^"
mo
3.
1,
97
417
ajraiiist
ITi^O
Government for illept^d injury- due to EA must be leprally shown lo have been du to the mnteri&L
tlp
VS
Proji^r secnrity oi>d ap|>rnprinle operation.il techniques can protect the fact of employment of lT;iO."*
EA
_f
the basis of this evahintion, the st rly concluded that in view of "ihe stakes involved and the interests ofnational security," the proposed plan for field te^if inpshoukl be approved. The surreptitious administration of dru^ to unwitting: subjects by the Army raises serious constitutional and lepnl issues. The consideration piven tho^p jpeues by the Army was wholly insufficient. The charactor of the AnnyV volunteer test inp proprnm'and (he possibility that dru;:s wei-o j^imj^ly substituted for other forms of vinlence or duress in field inlerm^rations raises serious doubts as to whetJ^er national seruriiy imiieraiives were pmprrlv interpreted. The '^conj*nt" forms whiclj eacli An^erican volunteer sipned prior to the adjninistrution of I-SI) are a case in pojuu These forms contained no mention of the medical and psycho lopica I risks inliei'ent in such testing, nor do they mention the nature of the psychotrophic drug to be administered:
Tlie f^uenil nature of the experiments in which I have voliuteetT^l. Iiave been explained to me from the standpoint of j'f-^sible li,i::.Md5 lomy nenlth. /( m vriderfitandhn? that the tX|)eritni ;- are so designed, based on the results of aniinals and \-.^ vious human experimentation, th'it the anticip/rfed n.^vh^ xt-tif justify the performatuc of fhc ex]>erimttit. 1 understaiul further that experiments will be so conduced as to avoid nil iinnere^sarv phvsical an<1 medical suffering and injury, and that / inll he at lihcrty to request that ffu-iT/irriwitifs be tct^ihwtttl at any time if in mv opinion 1 hiivc reached the physical or mental state where con-
On
m^
tinuation nf the experijnents becomes undesimble, / rrtogi'ize that in the pursuit of certain experiments transitory discomfort ntay orcvr. 1 recognize, also, that under these circuni=tances, / mu*it refy -upon the jtkiU and irtBdom of the physician aupnii^ing thr eTpcn'm^nt to institute whatever medirnl or sur^ncai measures are indicated. fEmnhasis addrdO *"
forms
specific discussion of the nature of in raises serious douhisas to their vaH<liiy. "nmlerstand-
I^D
An
that tfie anticiitated results will justify ihe performance of tfic ex|ieriment" without full knowledge of the nature of the experiment is an innonipleti- "understaiuling/" Similarly, tlie nature of the experiment limited the ability of both the subject to request its request it ^^ termination and the experimenter to implement such a request. Fiiinllv, the euphi>inisiic characteiization of "Iransitorv discomfort*" and thi- agreement to *'n'ly on the skill and wisdom of the jdivsiciau*' combine t ronci^al inlierent ri^k^ in the experimentation and'mnv be viewed iis disolving the ex|>eriinentcr of i>erM>nal respoiksihilily' for daiJKjgiug afterf ffert5. In suminary. a ^'volunteer" program in which suhjiTis are not fully informed of potential hazards to their persons IS "volunteer" in name onl w
ml'^*^'^'^*"'^*'"**^' "MUerial
.^nmplp Toluai^PF conpnt fcrm.
Twiirii;
Procrom
EA
1729," 10/J5/5d, p. 2.
MORI DocID:
163357
98
418
This problem was compounded by the security stfctements signed by each voJunteer befoi-e he paiticipated in the testing. As part of this stoteineiit, potential subjecU agieed tliat ihey would
not divulge or make available infornnation reJated to U.S. Army intelligence Center interest or participation in the Department of the Army Medical Research Volunteer Program to any individual, nation, organization, business, association, or other group or entity, not officially authorized to receive such information. I understand thai anv action contrary to the provisions of this statement will render me liable to punisJiment under the provisions of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.*"
p
my
provisions, a volunteer expcriencine aftereffects of the lest mi^t have been unable to seek immediate medical assistance. This disrepird for the well-being of subjects drug testing is inexcusable. Further, the absence oi any comprehensive long-term medical assistance for the subjects of these experiments is not only unscientific ; it is also unprofessional
Under these
Lack of Xormal Aut?u>rixatwn OTid Supervision It is apparent from documents supplied to the Committee that the Army^s testing programs often operated under informal and nonrou^
4.
tine authorization. Potentially dangerous operations such is these testing programs are the very projects ichich ought to be subject to the closest internal scrutiny at the highest levels of the military command structure. There are numerous examples of inadequate review, partial consideration, and incomplete approval in the administration of these programs. When the first Army prograin to use on American soldiers in ''field stations" was authorized in May ll'a,'^, the Army violated its
LSD
own
procedures in obtaining approval. Under Army Chief of Staff MemorandiiMk 38J, such proj>osals were to be peisonally approved by the Secretary of (ho Anny. Ahliough tlie plan was submitted to him on April iiO, IOjG, the Sitreiary issued no wrillen authorization for the project, and there is no evidence that he either reviewed or npprov*'cl the plan. I-#ss limn a month later, the Anny Chief of StatT
a menioranduin autliorizin^ the tests."" ^Subsciiuejii testing of I^^T) iinfler Material Tej^ting Pi-ognm 17-2^ ojterated generally under thi= nuthorlr.ntioii. Whpn the plans for i)iis testing weiv originnlly disru^sed in onrlv 105^ by ofticiul>^ of the Anny Inii-IIi;;cnce Center at Fort HohibinI and rejuTsenlatives of the (^heniionl WarfL-iiT Centi^r nt Kdgruood Ar^ei;il, nn informal proi>os;jI was forniuhxted. Tliis pit^jwwal was Bulin\ifleil to the Medical Kiw^iiirh Dii-eolorale at Kd;:^wood hy tht- Pit'sidont of thp Annv Inissueil
EA
on June H, JD-'iH. TliVrr is no evidmcc ihiit thepLin w;ift appiu^cd at nnv level higher thnn the Prp^idciil of the Intclligriu'p Hoard or (he Commanding (lenernl of Kdgowood. l*hf approval at Kdp'wood appeal's to have been j^siu'J hy the (^oniniandor s Adjutant. Thv MediiMl ]{i'>4\ii'rh I-!iloriitorir-^ did not submit thf plan to
telligiMico Rojii-d
S^urilT
|t
Sfatprtifnl.
rheniW?
IW.
99
419
the
in
ostensibly covered
May
The
CHANXE
were apparently approved by the Army Assistant Chief of Staff for Intelligence (General WilJems) on December 7 1960.'~ This verbal approval came in the course of a briefing on previous drug programs and on the planned field experimentation. There is no record of written approval being issued by the ACS! to authorize these specific projects until January 1961. and there is no record of any specific knowledge or approval by the Secre<
tarj'
DERBY HAT)
LSD (THIRD
of the
Army.
<
Febninry 4, 1963, Major General C, F. Leonard, Army ACSI, for\iai-ded a copy of the THIRD CHANCE Trip Report to Army Chief of Staff, Genernl Earl AVheeler. ^" Wheeler had apparently requested a copy on February 2. The report was routed through a General Hamlett. "While this report included background on the origins of the LSD tests, it appears that General Wheeler may only have read the conclusion and I'ecommendations,"' The office memorandum nccompanyinc the Trip Report bears Wheeler 5 initials,'" 5. Termination of Tenting
April 10, 1963, a briefing was held in the ACSI's office on the results of Projects THIRD and Both SPTs concluded that more field testing was required before LSD could be utilized as an integral aid to counterintelligence interrogations. During the presentation of the results. General Leonard (Deputy ACSI) directed that no further field testing be undertaken."' After this meeting the ACSI sent a letter to the Commanding General of the Army Combat Developments Command (CDC) requesting that he review THIRD and and ''make a net evaluaticm concerning the adoption of EA 1729 for future use as an efff'Ctive and profitJibJe aid in counterintelligence mteiTopitions." *>' On the same dav the ACSI requested that the CDC Commander revise regulation FM 30-17 to read in part
On
On
CHANCE
DERBY HAT
DERBY HAT
HAT
CHAXCE
DERBY
in no instance will drugs be used as an aid to interrogations in counterintelligence or security operations without
, .
prior permission of the Department of the Army. Requests tousedrupsasan investigative aid will be forwarded through inleni;:.'nce chniinels to the OACSI, DA, for approval. , , Mcdic^tl research has established that information obtained through tlp use of these drugs is unreliable and invalid. _ _ It is considered that [Army] approval must be a prerequisite for use of such drugs because, of the moral, legal, medical and political problems inherent in their use for intelligence purposes.'"
.
DA
pp 135. 137. I3fi. ""Mehovsky Fact Sheet, I2/I/flO. ^''"'^'">**tum from l^nnard to i"
"' /6id..
SGS
ihiii.
mrmornndiiiHror tlirrwv^ril. S/12/C3. Xv^'^ ^ lamakl mtiuttronUurn for the record. 7/IC/63.
tbifl
100
420
of this rp^uloiioii marked the effective (erJMinatjoiL of titOdroslingof I>SJ)l>y t}i<^ Amiv. Thp official t*nuiiatir>u d^ic of these listing proirrajns is rather unHcar, but a Jal^r ACril memo indicjites thai it nay Jiave occumd boiileinber of l&CX On the 19(J of that month a mMlifig was held bctwt^en JJr Van Sims (Edgewood Arsenal), Major Clovis (Chemical Kesearch Laboratoj7), and ACSI rcinissenmives (General DcholmaiKi Colonel Schmidt). "As a result of this confpi^nce a determijiiitioii was made ro suspend the projfrum and any furtlier activity pemlJiig a more profit^Je and suitable use,"' "
Till* Milr^f'ejurnt iuloition
1>.
AND COMPITITJO-X AhONG THE IntELLICENLE CoM" MCMTv Agencies and Between Tjuj^e Acjfvcies and Otheh JNDMIIHALS and iNSTlTmONS
CtK^rKK-^TIi.N
hiUlHgtnce Commuttity Keblionships among intelligence communitv agencies in this area vaned considerably over lime, ranging f lom full coopcintjon to intense and uiisleful competition. The early period was marked bv a hich de-fce of r^.pcrnnoM among thp ag*>nrie5 of the intelligence conimuinvolving chemical wns shared with the and tlu'C lA. Hut the spirit of coo|>eration did not continue. The fnjlure hy the mihtaiy (o share information apparently breached the spirif^ifnot the letter, of conu>ands from above. As noted al>ove, tjic Army Asaistnnf Chief of Staff for Intelligence n''"P"^f^operationnl testing of KSJ under Pj-oject T^?j%oTw'ir4 l)^*; h, and IJIlKJJ < IL\N( expi^esa-d concirn that the project had not been cooidmnted with FJ*I and CIA. IVspite this request, no coordjiiMion was achieved between the Armv and cither of tJiesc agencies. Jfnd surh cooivration lieen foilhcoming, this projert mav have been
njtv.
Within
tU
and
tm
ff.on;:h tlie military donunaii-d nseiirch hiologii>aJ agruls, iUe inform^uion devclojied
The comjHiition !>ctflpen the ngi'iuies in (his area i-enrhed bizarre levels. A miirtary offii-ertold a CIA repi-esenlalive in coufidcn*^ about
of I,SI) in Knroj)e under I'roject THIRD and the CIA prnnij.tiv attempted to lejirn suri-eplitiouslv the njilurn and cxteiii of (he pnignun. At ronghlv the same time Mr, Jliljii>iir;.'ii<'d tothr I>lK*l thai the unwitting te^ting pro;:i am sljouhl Ijerontiumd^RSit contrilmird to the CJA's capahilitv in the nrea nnd thus nlhnved lh<> CIA "to ivslriiin others in the intelligence comnumitv (stirh as the IVpartmout of Ufensc) fitmi j>ursuin;: operations." " The .MKNAOMl pr<^gram was also marked hv n failure to shai-e
f\^i r 'i''^'^ C ltA>t
^'''^ testing
nif.jrm.ation.
The Army
Fohts
(tlic j>rinci|Ml
customci of the
than ntfempting to coordinate their efforts promulgated different re<|iiin-mrnis nhiih vari<il only slighily. Tlus opp;wentlv resulted in some dn|iltrnti'>n of etfort. In order to insui-c the seciirilv of CIA nj>eratir>irs, the Agenry would reqiu-ft materials from SOI) foi ojx'raliojinl iw* without fuHv or aivnniieiv describing the operational reqnirerncnt'^, This fvsulieil in limitations on SOD's abilitv to assist
th.
CIA
rather
(MA.
from ihe OIU*
"M-nntfjincliiiii
n> ihp
IKT
n^
fH.
)>.
2.
MORI DocID;
163357
101
421
S.
TIk- siiKjcrts of iho CTA't^ oi>cnitional tt'stinjr of chnnical and biologiral ip^nts aliix)ad were p^ncrally being lield for inlorroealion by foivign inti'llis< m-t* o\ Sfcuriiy orgunizalions. Ahlioupli inlorniation ab*nii iho use of drnp^ was generally withlield from those organizalion'<, cooperation wiUi tlnui neceftsarily jeopardized the security of CIA JnioieFt in tlieso lnfllerinl^. Cooi>erntion also placed \\\v American CSoveinnK'nt in a position of complicity in actions whicli violated the laws of the riiriiis of the subjecrs, and which may have violated the country in which the experiment'^ took place. Cooperation letwetn the intelligence agencies and orjranizations in foivipn eonntrie:^ was not limited to relationship- willi the intelligence
research was or inN-rnal security orgnnizations. Some conducted abroad. \Vhile this is, in itself, not a questionable practice, evade it is important that such res<*arch abroad not 1)0 undertaken to AiiH'rican laws. That this was a possibility is suggested by an ARTIinemorandujh in which it is noted thai working with the seiintisis of a foreign country '*inight !* very advantageous" since
MKVLTRA
CHOKK
thai government '*|>ermitit'd certinn activitio'i which were not permitted by the United Stales governnient (i.e., experiments on anthrax,
etc,),"*^'
3. TIi'^
/Mal'Oiis?t^ps Rftxr^iH thr InteUlgencr Community Agencies ati^t Othi r Agmn'is of the CS, Goverumettt
Certain V.S, government aprncies actively assisted the efforts of intrlligiii'-e agnncips in this ari-a. One form of assistance was to providi- 'Vovf'r" for research coutrarts let by intelligence agencies, in ordrr to ili-ginso intelligence community interest in chemical and
biologif'al agrnts.
Oifier form-- of assistance raise more serious questions. Although th** fJA's projirt involving the surreptitious' administration of wa-- eombjoled hy Iluronu of Narcoiics personnel, there was no open conn<H*tioji Utwi-en the Hurean ]ier>onnel and ihr Agency. The Bureau w a- ^*r\ ing as a "eui-ont" in onlf r to make it tlifhcult to trace Agoncy participation. The cut -out arrangnmrnt, however, reduced the CIA s ahilily to control the program. Thr Agency could not control the pnMV'S by whicli suLiiH'is weiv sili-ctrd and I'ldtivated. and couhl not regirl:iTe follow-up after the testing, Moreover, as the CIA's Insixsrtor (trinMiil noli*d "tb*^ haiulliug of test subjerts in the last analysis rests Willi thf [liuT-eau of Nareotirs] agent working alone. Suppression of kuowk'dgi' of critical rf'sults from the lop CIA management is an inheivnt risk in these o[>eintion*." ^^' The arrangement also made it impotsihh' for the Agonry to In* certain that the decision to end the woubl In* honored by the Bureau surn-piiriou> ndriiiniMration of
L^D
LSD
[lersoniiel.
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AccordJn;: to tlic ln|vr-tor General, the MKl'I-TRA testing pro. . jrrams wcrv '\Mjnducted niidrr accepted scientific procedures whrrc h.'iilili iwrruits, test snhjet-ts are voluntary participants in the pro^riams.""* T!ift wn? clearly not true jn the project involvinjr the surn-ptiiioiK administration of 1-ST). which wa= marked by a compiHe lack of screen i[i;:. medical supervision, opi>ort unity to observe, or medical or psvrliolop<^al follow-up. The inlellipncr npcmles allowed individual researchers to desicn their proji'ct. Kxi-erinients sponsore<l by thes*' researclicre (which inrludfd one whrre naivotics addirti^ weiv S4'nt 1o I/^xin;rton, Kentucky, who were rewarded wiih (he din^: of their addiction in return for partiripation in experiment- with l^'^Dl call into question the decision by the ai;*nrie= not to H\ puididii^es for the experiment 5. Thr MKVl-THA rescarcli an*! developmenl pro^'tain raises other ijnestioiis, aswidl. It is not clear whei her individuals in prisons, menial. narcotics and peneral ho>pil;ils can provide "informed consent", to partiripation in c\|H"rinH'nl> sm h a< these, Tlierr is donbt n to whether unwitti)!-: of ihr ultituatc sponsor of rescairh institutions should Usn^ done in their facilities. The nnlnrc of the arrangements al^o made it ini|>ossible for tJie inlivt<hials who were not awure of tbe s|>onsoi of the research to exercisi' any choice alH>ni tbcir participation based on ibe fiponsorin-r or;r:<ni''!ii<'>"' Allhou-jh ffrealer i>rccaulions aic now l*eiu! taken in research condncfi^d on Ix'haif of the iutellifrence community ai-enries, the dilennna of clasfiifii-ation i-emnins. These a^rencies obvion-ily wi^heil to conceal thi'ir intrresi In roil a in fornts of i-esearrb it* order to avoid Minuilatinp intojTst in the snnii* arens by ho^lilo povernnu^nts. In some cases today contractoi-s or resenrchers wish to conceal tlieir connection with these
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Because the ne niterial on hand Is prlrnirily of a financial rtature. It does not present a complete picture of the field of druo ewHntal1or, activity but It does provide mre detail than was previously available to us. For exa>ple. the foHo-ing types of
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Some of the persons chosen for expertiwntation were drug addicts or alcoholics.
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