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When the next bomb goes off in London, blame the judges Telegraph Blogs
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Con Coughlin is the Telegraph's Defence Editor and a world-renowned expert on global security and terrorism issues. He is the author of several critically acclaimed books. His new book, Khomeini's Ghost, is published by Macmillan. He appears regularly on radio and television in Britain and America.
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When the next bomb goes off in London, blame the judges
By Con Coughlin Defence Last updated: February 10th, 2010 144 Comments Comment on this article
Binyam Mohamed says he was tortured in Pakistan Photo: AP Why don't our judges just come clean and sign up with the Taliban? Every time they are asked to choose between the defence of the realm, or upholding the rights of some Islamic militant who claims his human rights have been violated, the judges invariably find in favour of the latter. Whether it is holding suspected terrorists so that thorough investigations of their activities can be carried out, or pandering to civil rights campaigners such as the odious Clive Stafford-Smith, the judical establishment never misses an opportunity to undermine the government's efforts to protect us from harm. Perhaps it's because me lerned friends are too grand to travel by public transport, but the only reason I can think of to explain their egregious behaviour is that they somehow feel immune from the threat posed by Islamist terror groups. Even when the security services have raised the current terror threat level to "severe", the judges are more interested in bending over backwards to accommodate deeply unsympathetic characters like Binyam Mohamed than paying proper attention to the nation's security needs. Poor Binyam claims he was tortured after he was caught "back-packing" in Afghanistan. Of course no one in the judiciary pays the slightest bit of notice when Binyam insists that he had travelled to Afghanistan simply to help out with some charity work, rather than, as our intelligence and security services suspect, to assist the Taliban and al-Qaeda with their plots to blow up the West. They are only interested that, once he had been safely removed from the battlefield, his human rights might somehow have been violated. The document that has now been released by the Foreign Office relates that Binyam was subjected to sleep deprivation, rather than the more lurid claims his lawyers have made about him having his testicles slashed with razors. Poor
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diddums. When I travel to Afghanistan with the Army we live on three hours sleep a night, but no one complains about sleep deprivation. We just get on with it. But there is a serious point to today's disgraceful ruling by the High Court. Our national security depends heavily on our intelligence-sharing cooperation with the U.S., and it is thanks to the intel provided by the CIA and other U.S. intelligence agencies that we have managed to avoid a repeat of the July 7 bombings. But if the Americans, alarmed at the willingness of our judges to humiliate them in public, decide to scale down the level of cooperation, our national security will undoubtedly be placed in jeopardy. Certainly, if another al-Qaeda bomb goes off in London, the judges will be as much to blame as Osama bin Laden.
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alegitbritcit 02/22/2010 04:30 AM
Where does this self destructive streak come from that always seem to infect labour governments? Weak politicians,treasonous behaviour,weak judges so out of touch with normal society,liberal lefties undermining the UK every chance it gets.Laws from here and the EU designed to undermine and weaken us,at the same time protect the rights of terrorists,criminals and every deviant Why does Labour always,always,always promote the rights of minorities be it ethnics,homosexuals,lesbians,muslims,illegal immigrants,phony asylum seekers, in fact anyone except the rights of the majority the way a democracy should work? We are at war ,torture is acceptable to obtain info to safeguard the country and it's citizens,that is the real world we live in not Walt Disney's.Why in God's name are we interested in some ignorant,deluded terrorist who is not even British?For God's sake he went to Asia with the intention of killing British soldiers he has no rights end of argument. This is why is Britain is in the mess it is. Recommend Report
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the law actually means in prctice - one of the important functions which judges serve - can be monitored. It is a complex, expensive, protracted procedure to challenge a single ruling, and when it is done the outcome is a highly specific ruling of limited application. European judges are in a somewhat different position, which is precisely why French judges, for example, can decide that no benefits are payable without 3 years' tax payment, German and Dutch legislators can introduce restrictions on East European immigrants, or Spanish judges can render British expats homeless by the byzantine workings of their planning system, or tell non-Spanish speakers to go away and learn Spanish, or at least provide an interpreter at their own expense, if they expect to be seen by a doctor. Why, in fact, do we have such huge levels of immigration? Partly political manipulation on a breath-taking level, of course, but why do immigrants take such risks to cross the Channel? The answer, in one word - BENEFITS. In another word or words, A LEGAL SYSTEM WHICH FAVOURS THEM UNFAIRLY AND FEARS TO SEEK TO MAKE THEM OBEY IT. We don't, in fact, need to make them ipso facto illegal or seek to deport them in tens of thousands. Given the numbers who appear to have no recognisable nationality, or come from countries which have no recognisable legal system and/or have no reservations about not wanting them back, this would quite likely result in a fruitless game of cross-Channel ping-pong as they were shuttled to and fro in small, but locally unmanageable, numbers. The answer is to copy the French, Spanish and others - no benefits, no nothing, without proper documentation at point of departure. A proper policy of putting illegals straight back on the next flight or boat to their point of departure, at that carriers' expense. A proper policy of enforcing the doctrine that it is not, in fact, legal to marry for the specific purpose of gaining entry, or more correctly that such marriages are not valid for that purpose; and simce, for example, 70% of Pakistani immigrants marry and import wives from Pakistan, the implementation of this shouldn't pose too many intellectual challenges. All these things are perfectly legal once you break away from the doctrine that the Human Rights Act is both paramount over all other legislation and capable of almost infinitely elastic interpretation. This is precisely why it is so lax and ambiguously worded, of course. There is a significant section of the British judiciary who hand down rulings which go far beyond anything required by EU law. This is precisely because they have been placed there by politicians, because they can be relied on to do so. Cherie Blair is a particularly odious example of this, but she is far from alone. I will now propose that our salvation will, in fact, come from the combination of the fringe parties and Europe - insofar as it comes from anywhere at all. I don't share the delusions of the half-dozen or so UKIP posters, and their sock puppets, on here. However the nationalist minority parties are another matter. There is a good deal of bickering about whether parties such as the BNP are in fact, parties of the Left or Right. This is essentially irrelevant, since they do not have any serious prospect of forming a government. the Europeans understand the roots and branches of fascism better than we do, from hard experience. There are people walking the streets of any European city with direct experience of the day-to-day working of such societies. All major European countries have been through the cataclysmic destruction and reconstruction of their political and social structures within living memory, some more than once. This has involved the recognition and containment of hard-line nationalism, at a time when the British have been allowed to retreat into nostalgia, xenophobia and insularity - a very British characteristic, also evident in their trans-Atlantic cultural descendants. This has been achieved by the incorporation of nationalism into public life. I don't
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actually much care for Geert Winders (sp?), but he has a specific point and is an integral part of Dutch political life. The French had Jean-Marie Le Pen. Like them or not, and in some respects they give me the impression of turning into something out of a Hammer Horror film at full moon, the BNP are about the only available channel by which such pressure can be brought onto the next incumbents. The Lib Dems won't do it; they are too deluded about being 'part of the process', kingmakers in a hung parliament rather than stooges to be used and abused by NuLab if necessary. However there would seem to be every prospect by which a case could be brought, in Europe, once Lisbon is in force, to the effect that British law as held by judges in the UK is not valid and the French, or Spanish, precedents are in fact the determining case. Who will do this? The BNP, if anyone. Unlike UKIP they don't have any delusions about forming a government, and they certainly don't have any goodwill for the "multi-culti project". They are now part of the Ero Parliament, with the funding and resources that brings. Our political system is now broken beyond repair in its major essentials. The pressing need is to get rid of NuLab, but the damage has been caused over 30 years by both sides. ConLite isn't the answer, and the LibDems are irrelevancies who have had their chance, and muffed it. We now need PR, on the basis that neither main party can be trusted to reform itself, either under FPTP or by whatever gerrymandering of the electoral system they seek to embrace. We need, in fact, the very system which we were once instrumental in establishing in Europe, precisely to prevent the return of the elective dictatorships pursuing ideological programmes with no reference to the wishes of the indigenous electorate, manipulating the judiciary and transhipping entire ethnic populations across continents for party political purposes. The snag is, of course, that it took the total devastation of continental Europe to provide the opportunity. We have stood on the fringes of Europe, in it but not OF it, for too long. It is long past time that we got to grips properly with then issue, because as things stand we will indeed become a backwater, isolated and exploited; well, even more than we already are.
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group. A slightly more worrying illegality took place when our prime minister decided to invade Iraq and contribute to the deaths of 1.2 million Iraqis. "Then there is the completely insane introduction of Sharia law into our country, which has at a stroke undone several hundred years of emancipation of women, and further, pretty much legalised the right of Muslim men to beat their wives and daughters, so long as they dont mark their faces, that is." or, put another way... Vermin like the Mohamed used to be properly interrogated and then shot in the back while trying to escape, or better, wrapped in a pigskin and buried alive. Time we returned to the old ways. (Catweazle) You have now revealed yourself to be a dim-witted xenophobe, Catweazle.
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policies put our civilian population in peril. no, mr coughlin, maybe we wont blame the judges when the next bomb goes off in london, maybe wel blame those who may have obtained false information through torture
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Human rights people, what about my human rights?. Born and bred here, 71yrs old, live in a north west city frightend to go out at night. We are OVER RUN with immigrants!.
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