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c Cll t TO\I ar l'D ellrv o!: bl'iJtQ"1n; J.n all "'"t coealwe,
8 1. ftoot 1 cornet.
J D Jou watehod and ke;t track ot lt, dltnt you?
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11 II.. Jou flew with tho a1J)J)ie !.n pluew load" ;,J.th vuno "'"'
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U Q, lnd you tock tho .. __. 40itll to coou ltl ca , 4141>'t
'l'hato right.
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11 Ilea and t .on 1--" ep the o1rph.no in Coota Ilea with 4<>Je,
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And yoa flow thot Oote Cra. Coota wlth tho
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t g. Z't ftl year btllie.C, .aant. Mr . that you

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IIR. IXloti&MIII %t 'I &l l:'e&l!y beeh 1&14. II lUll tiiU
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J7 tlHo i .. OM. !'ha o!ojiCtJ.Oft wU1 M O'la.....,1e4. I'll fU'alt bt .
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21 tz'wtlt. of ... tta:r1 :n.tllar 01>ly tOO' tl\11 odtnMe 1 1tata
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12 Q. (ly llr. MUH .. o) "- you U n baclc in >1\h tU HJpph
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2& t ... jury t o ln!4ent ...,4 that thh :h a ccmtJ.nunq
2! U..t. 1t' l not t.or t-he truth ot th.e M.ttar er tecl only
1 ha t th w! tnu o l>e Uev ell
2 ,-u very wll. 11 J un4ro't .. It, tll. .t
3 lfl\a.t t. k-l'n9, tthat the w1 t nus Mll eved. '1:\tther 1 . wa.1
t true ot ftot, that' f not the 1s1aa. The qveltian 1 dl4
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6 .a. rtollt. a no .. ill Spo.nlth by
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a g, cay ltr . Nill1a> x don't need to ha ve ny ..,oluntacrlng.
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MR. GIAI1M1 ludge , excu1e ae. I k a voir 4Jre
11 QtlOft ot the witn?
12 7HII COUI!To Barely.
13 ORlBlM: 9Jr, do you blleve that tho balance of
lf nwar that you wer tht wa cgt of! W\ . L
15 of til . .. ,..., to U.e l ut llr' . liUliau uk<ld 1'0'1?
I' nil WU'IIIISS t It b to clarUy that X aa olvlng
17 erlonal and that X dcm't .. nt to b,
18 a1 tor tb11 cae, he 1 aklng if % helie.
19 'I'll CODII'ro Proc .. ll .
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'tt. 4otm t.o COl t & .tea 1.0 4ellver t.l\aae 9Ul"' t.n4
weapon Wll to halp the Contra l that torract7
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12 A, I l oo.4od lt.
13 Q, lou lO&ded it your u lC?
15 D. Do you know tbe location oC tbe airport whre yoy lan4ed
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18 Q. Do you know who owned that
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2' Q. lhen you flv to Cota RJea, 4l4 an
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Ci4 you ever le&ve fro irport other tban ort
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7 other &lrportl ln llcriG 4ld you to f ly
1J c!OIIIln wlth Q'Un and. a.un1Uon tor thl Co-ntn. eotta l:l.Jc:a?
I MR. GIIAJIAMo Ol>1ec:tion to the tor of tho
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11 TAl COUI!' t x tt.ke it. tllat t e etm.ieally c:orrec t .
12 Iou 009ht to l ay a little pro4icate on that.
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14 a.l.rplA._t\e loe.4ed. with Q'Ufll al\1111. J t. wa yov )elle!,
15 Mr. tbat the lt .. were going to go to the
16 COfttr., correct?
17 .1. . that rloht.
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6 Q. hr tl\et"e roeketa?
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14 uybody that ldentitie4 th .. oolv .. to you u a. Cootn lea.4er?
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ao Q, J.n4 who ...... you wlth?
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J vant to oay or to provide naaao etallo.
4 MR. WILLilMS I the court plaaoa, tbe queotlon
S aun48. 't'ha "ltn !lao o.bjected ooltho11t the
govarnaent oaylng anything. I would aok that tl\e oo!tnaoo ba
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10 aiLLIIUIS o I aote for oth.r naaoo, and Joe o&ld
11 ha dlCn't want to anoar.
12 KR. CllBAMo l can only - ay raeollaetlon or the
13 tate of the va he aake4 ,s. tar a he tot
1' na .. J than witne 41d aa:e 4 voluntarf
15 % don't know what to to or What to do until
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18 llr. AUU&III, so we :re all attune L to it.
19 o. (fill llr. llllliamo) Do l(011 re all the 1\&aa of ooaebod.y
20 eallec Octav1ano?
21 ORlHlMo OQjaction b ed on relevance.
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MR. OaHlM Objection b&aa6 on r.lnabee an4 a.l ao
ko..s em 103.
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M . GRJ.Ri.M 1 lef ore b re_. pend , u.y l n a
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2 jury o<cuoe4 tho proceedloqo
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15 oC that notlln, I can un4vou.n4 tllo COIITt hu dre&IIJ
16 thoy can got I nto thoae. But ln of tho
I B go to any pot-.tlal 4ofonoo that I lf 90109 to
19 go to tho oro41bllltv ot the then I would ouggoot
20 tll&t it I rrelevant to 90 Into tho baooo ot J114lYidu&l l tllat
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l tbat to be part your Your ob,otion
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5 lrrlevnt . l ut fro111 t.he tnQc. Lnt or teat:ing t he vltt11t"ta'
6 I waa o!v1no th 4ttn o ltl1u4 1n
7 U.t re.p:r4. It it lJ\\ )lvel O.ft'iJI01 nq
l t1.011 an<l oueh wouU j1opudb I , l ' 11 ouotal.n the ob1 ctJon
9 111 nferenc to the, nt.e , quote, ot tbe <tt\u
lD Cil oupposo4lt prtoant at thio ting
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12 MR. u.ntES1 t'->o T . .a, tour Bonor I we:r
lJ dbelo1ed br both Mr. Morl lfln.( Mr . Blet1nn O.fore senator
1t t:e:r1"tty ' a l 1onv t.l tM :k. nd 1t vu a -t.t.c of
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15 'l'lll CODR'l't All ri9ht. talking lbout thooo
1? two na. lre t a l tinv t wo tb&t th witne
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I' kl. HliN!So no. the he just reve.lel,
2.0 !81 COOH 1 &ell, it h a already rvld tbe:a,. 1t '
2l on the racor4 and that'r I undertt&ll vere tal kln;
22 about ne . Whatever D&ee he h teetif1a4
2J tht'l n the record,
ll Klft&t c of t l\aae 1011%' Rono%,. t hat
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IJ MR. GIWWolt M3t objection war 403, Whlcl\ oayo 1
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11 QOing to bo that the defendant Mao operating tor the ClA
l8 oC that nature, ro thlo cou14 only go to
It f811: COOUJ XI t hio lnV<>OtigatiOII buolneal
20 we ' n t&llting h It aft ongoi ng lnvortl pUo" bo.o
21 anythlnq ao the 4elondant In thlo caoo?
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:U &!lythl'nQ that r In ot that oworn otu ..... t. tiM! otutf
2& tllay ro getting lnto hu nothing to do vi th tM 4etendant.
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5 4rog trafficking, or porhapo ln anoth.r area ot tratfl.ctlnv
e 1\ia proee=Uon or Ll>Y i .. u,.l.ty 1n reterenc:o to 1t.
' It ooaa rolevanea in r.;..r4, but 1C the
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U 41racUll or 1n4Jr ecUy U.l'ect t of the or ii>llrPOZ'ted
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15 the , l ut tl\&t pr.d.lc&te han' t boen laU, Al\4
ll tl\e C:ourt 1t1u 1n4lcatd. I t t hoy want to vwt 11\to tta he
19 flying uae, V&l lie flylnq d7ago, I can uMirttan4 Uat tllllf
20 _,t to get hto that . But U... C:t. n4 U.e Contra
1a onllf a belle( that he hol4 in hlo al.n4, even
22 tle t o the iury that It only goeo to hlo bolJef , io
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MJt. O'MIILill And o are the n ..... , tour I OltOr.
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MR, O'MIILXAo Atteapt t> Jotpeuh l>y eMt.-.IDiio
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itt going to have to obut it by of tho tht
9 I liM to t\1%'11 tM.t \hln9 over tho othn 4a>y, which io Mt the
10 COurt's hult. I gw<l. to&<> that i n Uqllt of avol4!.119
11 aJpellate Ju, bt Vbether or not lt eoe out in
a court certainly on90l.ng inveouvat1ono.
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16 tHE COUI2 J Do you r ... pree.nt that t\a will conf ..ll"a
17 that tact?
18 MR. 4RIJI.lMJ Y, eiJ. tte 1 01)8> ot the teople Wao
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2.D 't'BI COilll'l'o If 011t of the heuir.q of tho 11111 ho ' 11
21 conf:l.l'11 tht, bo wJ. ll not be >equa..S. to p.-ovUe tlloo lllaao,'
22 if lt'o an qogolog lnvootigatlon. So we'll ttart beck 1n
23 Uo\4 t.,. lnuteo outoldo tt>e of the an6 you ..,
lt voir 4Sr th that tUbjeet, Mr. orha . of
zs courae, .. tve 1hey will be ble to inQuir
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1 thoUfht t hlo ..... l>.lq en wupono o111<J <lul &11<1 1.1\0.t ""91
! eo .. back wltll tho approval. Ao ala that.
c So to tpoe1f1<olly W)o t ho "'' 1! lto
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2 of defen counael wwld be, I th1M that eovera t he
l nature of the volr 41re, and tha 90vernent renew 1t1
4 objec:t:!on. Fur-ther-f. lt: 4et,. eounael inczlll-r'el into :epec:1!:lc
S .. at1nQ or ne cr th1n; oe that I won' t know
he' bo aotinp antil J hoar it, alld Crankly it ho
1 &llrt about a eet1fll9 at. pc1tlc pbc:a, a,y
8 w1th t he onqolng 111vot1;at1on would not 1uch
' tbat J wou.l d tuov Who vat a.atinv, ana 2
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11 TKI t'OmtTr Sall, wa can t. nU<:ipat.e wht CZ\IIIItiant
voln.o to l:le &kc.t fro hr , b\lt i.n retcren.ce to t.he nc
13 that jGtt t4 tor, t he reaaoftt of the
1' iavttig tion ror tho fort hor reaoon that tho Court hal
1! boo11 o4v1oo4 that thio ongolno tnvooti ootion nor the ftaa .. o[
lC thou peop1e involved have &D.Vtlll.n<l t.o de wlt'll til alleged
17 aru9 trafficking alltgatiODo &114 Olld a11aged
18 of the t hl cte, the Mill
tt not bl to reveal thoe n
20 Oot tl\a jiU"y .,,d ht 1 procMG.
%1 a . lllJ,t&NSI Your IIOJ'Or, I "'01ill4 like to lnq\lh' o
22 I d.o11't tuopo.oo on yO\Ir nl1nq, but are you aay1nv tl>at I
2.l Mill bOt be ablo t.o 9 0 int.o tllh Mitft HS" I 4r1IO
2f act1vlt1 .. ?
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' MR. lllLLn!IS o !lith penl.odon of Court?
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'll'l COlJUr Mr. IIUUu1, !n anlrer to your qll .. tiOII,
t tbe 11 it can be gcif1c 1e the wltn wlll 10 answer
7 abollt ny 1uch activity not. 11'1volv1ng 9ovrnMrt 11m.c:t1oa, Wt
8 at to qovenaont oanctl. em it o hould A'K i lr V_,II%U
9 Q. (By llr. HHaaa) Dl.4 you Kite any tdtt an pl.., troa
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16 MI. OJI&ti&Mt T'O\D' SCWIOI', I vould aak t.bat t-he w1tn-
17 - r Ol>b 1o U that h a put ot an ongoinq
18 l nveotivotlon that tho )e a4vioe4 that ha a&y aoke an
19 .. eqt t o the Caurt,
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22 onvoift9 .lnvootlvotion at tkio t.lae, he Qeed not r ov.al t hat
2l &rUc"lar ...... . lf not pan ol a n cmooho iow .. tloaUoa,
2' th.r hal no to rovaa11ng the of th
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13 that you f 'ew a plane loa4e4 wi th weopcn to Cota lica
11 ld.tll 1 pU<t >thr than t he one callell RlPJII.o?
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Li Q. Dl4 you ely that flight to Coot& aloe?
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how aany lll1on of doll Lrl that you were
payinv ewer tllooe pecpl e ?
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Mr. Wi l li& .. ) know to? ra aorry, 4o he
1f know?
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Q. Bov ant all11cno ot !ollar o dl( t ol l tha jury t hat
topo?
aillion dollar a .
&. The Dnlted Btate , Panaa, Costa Rica .
we r. talk1n.g abollt - ... you're u .ltt.n; about '83, ''141, .,85,
A, ... ra t altlng about ' $1. ' 83 1 not 1nelude4 in that.
fe , but l 414 nDt 4el1var acney 1n '86.
Q. For the year in '81 aD4 '85, how aafty tle
.S.Hvc aone y to PQpo an Oct.avi&no?
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2 Q. Rby you th., illiofta of 4oll&r to
3 two aan, OetavLano an4 Popo?
e A. t w. ordered deliver lt to thea.
6 A George Moral
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U .t. . Cocaine ,
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21 1 . hll , Y"" n aoklno Jl J t!l&t u... fou """t
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l f l , fhat'> right.
15 Q, i tbat
17 Q, .... it a en front to yo\&r ltnowt.ll.qe?
18 &. I f.OII 't know wbother it to the CIA or not.
20 tlylnq do., tb.,.. wl.tb eapono an4 br1ngino baelt <:<co.J.ne7
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lUI . .n.Ll.\JII t leo
ftootato it if you Mou14, Mr . Nilli .. o.
Kr, Mi llion) Old t hi o hove a role in your

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l you ,to b4 involved with tho Cil?
l A, lt 6i4 In op;nlon.
4 Q, ln4 wlul t wu lto -- to yo>I.IZ' t11ow1edvo what .... itt
5 PIU'POoo?
6 OIABlM, Object ao to rolevanco, lnqulrln9 l11to
7 e.-etuc 1notuc:u of ccm4'oct unrohteG t o tl\e 1ft41"t ""t
I uodor Rule 608,
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If Q. you would on tho a i rplanoo in exchanve
IS for
we f ly back wlth cocolno but DOt with
11 container tull ot cocaine.
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22 u Pllnt.a lrtau 1t1 any way hvolved in druq tr&Uic:lcll>ll?
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26 Q. In what way i l i t involved?
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2 rru1t lo tha .Vnlted &tat
3 g . Whre we:re thue l te11 l o&.-dt4? t" ""'-\ C01l1'11'\ry, C011ta
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llOW "ll flivl\tl do you . n co.li p&rticlpat.J nv in
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l3 C:OC-&1M at th .... t.lae.
lf Q. Bow &ny tllqht 414 you part icipate i n
16 coea1M to tl\t 11111 to<l ta\.co vii.Ue you vere toor ldng vi tl\
16 people you believo4 were affiliated wltb tl\e etl an4
n t011trao7
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Q. woul4 b tha avaraqe .aount ot dzuO on eacb ot
UO.Oae t-r lpt?
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an vuqe, Mtw., tl\t'ee and. tour kilo.
D:ld y-o-u rctl'Ye fa l patport -- 1 t.Mrawn.
23 toQ 416 recelv tl p&taportl fro. oetavJano and
l& ropo on oce&Jont dSdnt you?
25 .1. '!'hat.' conect,
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5 oe year.
7 & '!ll Ill cll.cln t b& ve nosu.
8 Q. llao thero a natlonauw lor theu paoaporta?
10 g. Did they heva pJ.etur .. an4 ""'U)'thi.J>g on th .. ?
u a . 'lo, they 414 not 1> ......
12 o . thi l t a pa.rty wh.eu you were ; ive n "tl\e1e !U.cart.9UAn
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wore full w1th tP, of entry xlt rzoa
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14 lot. of cU_. f _ferent eoul'ltr-let , bu.t they 414 !lot have naae or
a pleture on th ...
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l oll'"" oure o l tllat?
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V.., well. ln4 did they o .. bo provl.t. you with puoporta
lJ ln tht co1141Hcm t or Oeo>"9e MorU.eo oro! a..,rv- .. '
t They .. re 4el1vere4 directly to tb ...
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Mr. W1lllo .. ) I have placed bofore you woo
6 fv.rn1olled to by tile Stato Go,...., .. llt, 1lll&\ purporto
7 to be a ncorn otu .. .,t 9iven l>y you h M1uJ., P,lorld em
I !lluo4alf, rnrllllrlt Stll, 1990, I've t...,eo 1t to on
J pave sa. 1 will ook you, oir, if at tho bottoa of P&fe
10 beoionil\9 at liM 20 1t you ,..... olltod t'hio queothn a n4 y01.1
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CODITt I don't hav copy o! that May
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You \.tnc1e':-Jtand wha.t l t t ayt7
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I Mlll &lk you j f you th1t queation, line 20.
' "One t Uon: . Clhen d ld Octavla.n<a a net Popo 9 lve. yov. a
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' ".IJ'IIwe.ra In .. p..rt.u. a. h:t.'I D party 1n Gte-orv'
1 and tncy proa l oe4 ond hlo wlfe and Y wlte ana
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' picture and and at prtY they vve th&
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asked you, l t l recall, vlth ro<Jard to Soclal
41rGt exaa1natlon to Mr . crahaa that haa &
an4 a soelal 'ecurity nwaber to in th n
of ro.ayo. Do you r eelL klnq ltat .. ent?
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"hat ..at )'O'Ur SocJl Secur.t t 1 uuab-tft',. if re-c:all7
o, I don' t ratall
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