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Indiefilmchat.com: Trout Grass has developed a very passionate following
?
over the past couple of years. Why do you think these films have been so well
received?
WHAT IS
Trout Grass
Andy Royer: Well, I’d like to think that Trout Grass has been so well received
because it is the Best Film Ever. Other than that I imagine the film is well
received because it doing the job of a film; it is presenting an evocative story,
one which many people, anglers in particular, can relate to. I think people also
AN INTERVIEW WITH like a film with a slow pace and wonderful cinematography.
“TROUT GRASS” DIRECTOR, Indiefilmchat.com: What was you background and career prior to producing Trout
Grass?
ANDY ROYER
A.R.: I was just a lowly bamboo guy, supplying bamboo poles to fly-rod
makers around the world. Film projects have been very small and none so
meaningful as Trout Grass.
tROut GRASS
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Genre: Fishing/Outdoors you for producing a film like this? How about ways where it might have made the
Synopsis: expert craftsmen demon process more difficult?
strate how to transform bamboo into A.R.: It made it easier because since I worked with bamboo and makers of fly-
split-cane fly rods in this documentary. rods I knew what I was talking about and I was able to get great talent to help
make the film. It made it more difficult because I didn’t know what in the hell I
“Reminiscent Of the understated elegance was doing when it came to producing a film.
Of A River Runs through It!”
– Chicago tribune ImageIndiefilmchat.com: What was your motivation for creating Trout Grass?
“One Of the Best Films About Fishing I have A.R.: I always heard that producers of fly-fishing documentaries were very
ever Seen!”– Globalflyfisher.com popular with the ladies.
It actually started off as a smaller film. I sell bamboo to people that build
“this is an entertaining, informative and bamboo fly-rods to people around the world and over and over again I get
thoughtful film that deserves to be seen!” questions about why a piece of bamboo has this kind of a mark or that kind of
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all at once to show them first-hand answers to their invigorates folks so much as it is the pursuit of a Indiefilmchat.com: Western film festivals seem to have
questions. I wanted some way to show these people wild animal. Here we have one that is exceedingly a much more open minded criteria for accepting films
exactly what the bamboo went through before it particular (in some cases) about where it hangs than East or West Coast festivals. Can you talk about
made its way to their shops. After taking famed rod out and what it eats and for an angler to succeed your experience with some of these festivals and how
maker Glenn Brackett to China in 2000 we decided in hooking in to one of these natural beauties they you think they helped Trout Grass?
that the story of the process of bamboo in China must learn what the fish is eating and present a
could actually work as a small film and it grew from hand-made replica in a way that the fish in question A.R.: I guess first I’ve got to say that I’m not sure of
there. will attempt to eat it. In short, to be good, an angler the difference between “Western film festivals” and
must imitate nature and to do that, he or she must “West Coast festivals” unless we’re referring to film
Indiefilmchat.com: How did you finance the production
immerse themselves in the natural world; it’s damn festivals for “Westerns”.
of Trout Grass?
hard to catch a trout in a Hummer. Real fishing The small festival circuit we did with Trout Grass
A.R.: I’ve got two more years until the statute of brings us, by default, into the real world. It is, as was great fun. We started in Jackson Hole which
limitations runs out and then I can tell you all about it. most genuine spiritual pursuits are, a tech-free, low was a good meeting point for our crew which
cost way to elevate our spirits. migrated from WA, AZ, CO and WY. We entered the
As what seems to be normal for most small, film into dozens of festivals and it ran in probably
Indiefilmchat.com: Independent filmmakers often have
independent films, I started with my own money 20. We were just tickled with the idea that anyone
a hard time identifying who their audience might be.
then branched out to close friends, less close Trout Grass appeals to a much wider audience than would actually choose to go sit in a dark room for
friends and eventually started asking people who the traditional fishing dvd. Did you think that would an hour to watch our production. And while it did
had never met me for money. We had some luck be the case when you began the project? not result in fame, fortune or great debaucherous
because a few wonderful people believed in our parties until 6 AM it did afford us an opportunity to
ability to make a special film. There is an “interest A.R.: I think most people recognize that the building travel a bit and to meet some awesome folks. We
group” for just about every activity known to man. of a fly-rod (as well fly-fishing itself) is little more also got to learn a bit about how the process works
With fly-fishing we happened to find people across than a ways to a means. This is not a film about and even won a few awards. I think all of this and
the country who loved the sport and wanted to see building a rod or catching fish. It is a film about any exposure in general helped get our film out to
something like this get done. involving ourselves with something we love and the public and brought a little more attention to it
Indiefilmchat.com: Can you share what you find so using that pursuit as a way to enrich our lives. I bit by bit.
fascinating about trout? think that that idea plays out across the spectrum.
Indiefilmchat.com: What was the best complement you
But no, we had no idea that we’d end up with an
remember getting about Trout Grass?
A.R.: I don’t think it has so much to do with the evocative film at the beginning. When we started I
actual fish. As our narrator and fly-fisherman didn’t envision a film that would be viewed by any A.R.: I was blown away the first time someone
David Duncan states, “We’re trying to get lost out more than a few hundred “bamboo nuts” in their called me to tell me that they had watched the
there. We’re trying to catch a ride our souls can shops in the dead of winter. film on DVD. I expressed surprise. Then they told
ride forever.” It isn’t the fish that fascinates and continued to the next page
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me they watched it something like three times. I couldn’t imagine someone the ability to create a great film, which takes hundreds of hours while not
getting so much from a film that they would watch it more than once or making money. That’s hard. Our current project is focused on the passing of
twice. I still think that is a pretty cool generic complement for any filmmaker. human lives and how that event is celebrated or marked by our loved ones.
Specifically? Just last January I was back in China and there was a man from We all seem so dang scared of dying in this country, so much so that we
Germany making the trip with me to visit the bamboo forests. He stopped at hardly speak of it and we often don’t know how to act when we are losing a
one point while we were walking through a small village and said, “Yes, it is loved one. I’d like to show some options.
exactly like this in the film!”
Indiefilmchat.com: What advice would you offer for aspiring non fiction
Indiefilmchat.com: What was the most fun you had while producing the film? filmmakers?
A.R.: A tie between watching our cameraman, Ed George and how he worked A.R.: Just freaking GO FOR IT! No one will believe in your dream becoming a
while filming. Once that guy gets behind his viewfinder the rest of the world reality unless YOU make it happen. As long as you keep pushing, it will keep
is lost to him. I watched him fall into rivers and walk straight into posts as happening.
he tried to catch his shots. He really put himself into harms way to get what
he wanted. It was also great fun trading barbs with our main writer David
Duncan who is a humorous and fine writer and human being. We spent several
sessions going over our script and recordings. That was a real pleasure.
Indiefilmchat.com: What was the most challenging thing that happened while
producing Trout Grass?
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A.R.: Challenging grown professionals in their work and not accepting efforts • The Trout Grass website gene Film Festival, Winner Best
Feature: ellensburg Film Festival,
that I didn’t think worked for the film. I had two professional musicians spend • Clips from the movie Official Selection: telluride
five days creating music for the film that I didn’t want to use a lick of. I had Mountain Film Festival
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want that particular piece of work in the final film. It is very humbling to reject
these hard-working and skilled artists.
Indiefilmchat.com: Can you describe what you’re working on now?
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A.R.: I’ve started two other projects that have dissolved and I’m still balancing
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chance to talk to the creator of the DVD series, Ozzie Ozefovich.
Interview With Indiefilmchat.com: The Underwater World Of Trout series has developed a very
passionate following over the past couple of years. Why do you think these films
Ozzie Ozefovich, Creator of have been so well received?
The Underwater World
Ozzie Ozefovich: The films are well received for several reasons. First, they
of Trout Series are unique in that they open up the whole new world of life beneath fast
and turbulent water where scuba divers and their cameras cannot hold their
position to shoot. No one has ever obtained film of trout behavior when
they are in their natural habitat — moving, feeding, fighting and reproducing.
the underwater World of trout : Also, the camera does not scare the trout, so they behave as if the camera is
• Volume 1: Discovery not there. The colors of the trout, their environment and the magnification
• Volume 2: Feeding Lies obtained by the camera are astounding to many viewers. The films open
a beautiful and magnificent window on a world few have ever seen and
Label: Lifesize Entertainment therefore are of interest to more than just anglers.
Genre: Fishing/Outdoors
IFC: You had a rather unique journey to become an independent filmmaker. What
“Ozefovich has opened a whole new world was you background and career prior to conceiving these films?
to us…It is nothing short of amazing!”
–Newark Star Ledger Ozzie: I joined the Navy at the age of 18, serving as an electrician’s mate
for four years. Most of that time was spent at sea on destroyers and I never
“No matter what your expertise, regretted it for a minute. My 39 year career in instrumentation and control
these dvds are fascinating” systems in the power generation industry had me working with water all the
—Dvdtalk.com time. Generating stations use a tremendous amount of water for cooling
purposes. Part of my responsibility involved the operation of the systems
“the Most Important trout video to date!” controlling the discharge water returning to the river. It had to be free of
—ed Jaworowski pollutants and below the thermal limits that would have a
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serious impact on fish and other aquatic life During my time in the Navy, I always had a 35mm IFC: What was your motivation for creating The
forms whose cycle would eventually affect us. So I still camera and an 8mm movie projector in my Underwater World Of Trout dvds?
thought about the health of fish every day. possession for shooting military, fishing and other
miscellaneous footage. In the succeeding years, Ozzie: After the first year with my new under-
The last 16 years of my power generation career I graduated to Super 8, then 8mm video. It was water camera, I did some rough editing and
were spent in training course development and worth all the time and effort required to splice tape brought a VHS tape to the director’s meeting of
as an educator in the corporate field. I am sure and assemble all the shots into coherent scenes. I my Trout Unlimited chapter. Well, my “hobby” was
that my work could never have evolved into film have footage of my family taken 50 years ago.. about to turn into something bigger. I traveled
making without this teaching experience. to other chapters around the state giving video
presentations with a rented video projector. I then
Many years ago, I joined Trout Unlimited started spending the big bucks and traveled with
whose mission is to conserve, protect my own audio system - eight foot screen, high
and restore our coldwater fisheries end SVHS VCR and projector. I purchased
and their watersheds. As a an Apple computer and I was on my
director, I am involved in many way to enlightening my peers to this
projects including the Trout newly found exploration of a trout’s
in the Classroom program. world. Creating a dvd was the next
It is an environmental step. Don’t laugh now, but if you’ve
education program in which seen my dvds, and the quality of
students in grades K-12, the photography, I can tell you they
following a TU curriculum, were created with iMovie 2 and 3 and an
raise brook trout from their egg analog Hi 8 underwater camera.
state to parr over a period of seven
months and then release the trout into IFC: Can you relate what you find so fascinating
a state-approved watershed. about trout?
IFC: Can you think of any ways that your background Since I shoot, write and edit all my videos, it has been Ozzie: They are fascinating because they are
prepared you for producing these films? How about so perfectly made for their environment — sleek,
difficult - and indeed a struggle - to keep up with the
ways where it might have made the process more efficient, beautiful and surprising. Surprising
continuously changing technology. Non - linear editing
difficult? because they always find new ways to show me
has made things easier, but with this latest technology
Ozzie: As I mentioned, I‘ve always worked on or comes the associated learning curve. Learning to use something more fascinating about their
with water. Combine that with my passion for the new computer technology competes with the time life underwater.
fishing and you get a pretty engaged guy. I need to spend in the streams and rivers shooting my
wily subjects, the trout. Since the age of 6 when I caught my first brook
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trout on a worm, I developed a passion for trout IFC: Your films were some of the first to use IFC: What was the best complement you remember
and their exciting world. I was fascinated by any underwater photography in what were ostensibly getting about The Underwater World Of Trout series?
body of water, stream or brook, even the little “fishing videos.” Now that other producers are
rivulets that form after a heavy rain. To this day using some of the same techniques, do you ever Ozzie: If I may, I’d like to mention two categories of
while driving, I must slow down at every bridge, feel like people are copying you? compliments. The first is from guides that use my
large or small, either to take a quick peek out the videos as training aids in their classes for teaching
Ozzie: No, others may try to copy my technique potential guides. The other category is feedback
window or pull over and try to picture where those
and I’m not at all concerned about that. Like me, from anglers and hard core fly fishers.
spotted beauties lay.
only after spending years of filming the
It amazes me that during periods of extreme As an example, two retired priests in their eighties
the east, are swimming, living jewels that told me they wish this knowledge was
need our protection, and I am committed available to them 60 years ago.
to that end. They added “Every time we watch
IFC: Because of your approach to the the video we learn something
subject matter, The Underwater new!”. My hat size is always
World Of Trout Series appeals increasing, but I don‘t mind.
to a much wider audience than
the traditional fishing dvd. Did IFC: What was the most fun you
you think that would be the case had while producing these films?
when you began the project?
Ozzie: I don‘t know if I can
Ozzie: Yes, because no other call any of it just fun, but funny
“fishing dvds” focus primarily on things have happened. There
trout behaviors shot almost entirely in the have been some occasions where I
trout’s underwater world. In addition, I think was shooting in an area where hikers or
my videos besides being called fly fishing or just anglers would try to engage me whether I was
fishing dvds, can be classified in the documentary on the stream bank hiding or in the water. That,
/ instructional category. My aim is to explore how of course, would ruin any chances of a good shoot
underwater world of trout will anyone be able to because the trout would be scared off. What I see is
trout feed, spawn and behave in the wild. provide a unique and valuable interpretation of the what I get since trout don‘t pose for me and there‘s
In this way, all anglers from rank beginners to trout’s behavior. There are no staged shots, these no such thing as a retake. I did get a few laughs
seasoned veterans hone their fishing skills and trout are in their natural environment. when I put a sign on my back reading ”Stay back
also gain a new appreciation of trout and their 50 feet.”
surroundings.
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IFC: What was the most challenging thing that happened while producing these
content. The primary issue is the constant struggle against the weather. The
films?
24-hour weather forecast helps, but not if you have plans to film longer than
Ozzie: When I set an objective to shoot easily spooked trout feeding in clear, a day. Camouflaging yourself and your equipment al all times is a must - but
slowly moving water, or wild trout spawning in a few inches of water, the not during hunting season, so check the hunting compendiums where you
challenge is to get myself and my camera equipment into position without intend to work. Finally, I’d advise that you do not quit your day job -- and pack
spooking the trout. This sometimes entails building a blind with available some cash away before you start!
materials or crawling on my belly through brush, grass and mud, to get my
camera into the water near the fish.
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searching for another opportunity before the available light fades away. trout as has never been done before!”
IFC: Can you describe what you‘re working on now? — Global Fly Fisher
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has been a work in progress for a few years while I add new scenes to make
a point or replace prior shots with better ones. I expect this DVD to be
available by late spring 2009. A synopsis can be found on my website: www.
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Brook Trout. It will show the class where the trout eggs came from and
what happens to the trout after their release. It explains the life cycle of
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IFC: What advice would you offer for aspiring non fiction filmmakers?
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Ozzie: If your intentions are to be a wildlife photographer, whether above Trout Unlimited
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