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T1 B24 Various Interrogation Reports FDR - 4-2-98 FBI Investigation - Source
T1 B24 Various Interrogation Reports FDR - 4-2-98 FBI Investigation - Source
T1 B24 Various Interrogation Reports FDR - 4-2-98 FBI Investigation - Source
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'FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
Date of transcription 5/ ^ 5 / 9 8
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it and iis contents are not to he distributed outside your agency.
SNY101-0119
FD-3021 (Rev. 10-6-95)
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RIDA was a United States citizen who went to Afghanistan from the
United States and at one time saw ABU RIDA with a blue colored
passport which the Source beleived to be a United States
passport. The Source believes that ABU RIDA was trained as an '
engineer. The Source further advised that ABU RIDA speaks
Arabic, Chinese, Farsi and English. The Source advised that ABU
RIDA knew both WADI EL-HAGE and TAKER and that this relationship
may have originated in the United States.
The Source advised that during the Afghan war, ABU RIDA
was a very high ranking member in OSAMA BIN LADIN's group and
when AL-QAIDA was formed, he (ABU RIDA) was on the SHURA COUNCIL.
While on the SHURA COUNCIL, ABU RIDA represented both AL-QAIDA
and the ABU MUSAB AL-SURI GROUP. The Source advised that ABU
RIDA recruited his best friend, DR. MUBARAK AL-DURI, into AL-
QAIDA. The Source advised that AL-DURI is from Iraq and that he
(AL-DURI) managed BIN LADIN's AL-SAMAL AL-MUBARAKA COMPANY.
SNY101-0120
FD-302t (Rev. 10-6-95)
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to set up in Sudan, the NIF wanted BIN LADIN to help the NIF
build roads, ie. Damazien and Kormuk, and to help train the NIF's
POPULAR DEFENSE FORCES (PDF). According to the Source, BIN LADIN
and AL-QAIDA received what they wanted - a good environment to
export Jihad.
SNY101-0121
FD-3021 (Rev. 10-6-95)
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to set up in Sudan, the NIF wanted BIN LADiN to help the NIF
build roads, ie. Damazien and Kormuk, and to help train the NIF's
POPULAR DEFENSE FORCES (PDF). According to the Source, BIN LADIN
and AL-QAIDA received what they wanted - a good environment to
export Jihad.
SNY101-0122
FD-3021 (Rev. 10-6-95)
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SNY101-0123
FD-302a (Rev. 10-6-9S)
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The Source advised that ABU RIDA also had a very good
relationship with SHEIKH AL-NOMANI, the Iranian religious
official responsible for the Horn of Africa who resides in
Khartoum.
The Source advised that ABU RIDA told him (Source) that
he (ABU RIDA) and OSAMA MARGHANI 'tried to purchase uranium and
were hustled out of $100,000.
SNY101-0124
FD-3021 (Rev. 10-6-95)
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SNY101-0125
FD-302a (Rev. 10-6-95)
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to the terms. The Source advised that he and AL-FADL then went
to MOBURK's office and advised him that the deal was going well
and that they ::eeded to see the uranium. MOBURK told AL-FADL .
that they can see the uranium at 10:00 AM the following day. The
Source advised that he was told by AL-FADL to meet at another
location in the Khartoum Market on JAMBORIA STREET. The Source
advised that'he and ABU RIDA met AL-FADL and BASHEER (LNU) at the
Khartoum Market. The Source advised that BASHEER was a Sudanese
male who lived in Greece and was involved in shipping. The
Source advised that BASHEER then drove them all through the BARI
section to the BETALMAL section of Omdurman to a house. The
Source advised that the four of them went into a house ~and met
three unknown individuals, one of which brought in a bag
containing a cylinder which was shown to them. The Source
advised that the four of them left and that he (Source) and AL-
FADL drove ABU RIDA back to his office. The Source advised that
a few days later he went to s'ee ABU RIDA to get an update.
During this meeting, ABU RIDA told the Source that everything is
fine and that he (ABU RIDA) would be strictly dealing with AL-
FADL from this point on. The Source advised that a few days
later, ABU RIDA gave him a $10,000 USD commission for his
efforts. The Source advised that he never found out if ABU RIDA
and AL-FADL ever bought the uranium. The Source further advised
that ABU RIDA always told the Source not to tell anyone about the
uranium deal and the $10,000 USD commission, especially MOHAMED
AL-NALFI SULIEMAN.
SNY101-0126
FD-3021 (Rev. 10-6-95)
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SNY101-0127
FD-3021 (Rev. 10-6-95)
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SNY101-0128