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Relationship Between Loop

And Cast
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Soon S. Lee
This slide presentation accompanies the article Loop
DynamicsThe Legacy Of A Definition in The Loop,
September issue, 2013.
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Casting stroke begins at the start and ends
when fly line launches.
Stop launches fly line and ends when rod tip
halts.
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Casting Stroke & Stop
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The Cast


The cast can be divided into three parts:
Casting stroke: governs profile of the upper
leg.
Stop: governs loop size and shape.
Post stop: Rod tip vibration governs
profile of the lower leg.
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Relationship Between Loop
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The relationship between loop and cast may be
appreciated from different perspectives.
In the next five slides each loop may be explained
by how its casting stroke and stop are
executed.
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Tight loop has casting stroke with SLP for its straight
upper leg, and an abrupt/brisk stop for its narrow loop
size.

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Tight loop
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Open loop has casting stroke with an ascending SLP for
its dome-shaped upper leg and a lengthy extended stop
for its large loop size.
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Open loop
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Wide loop has casting stroke with SLP for its straight
upper leg, and a gradual stop for its wide loop size.
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Wide loop
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Tailing loop has casting stroke with dipping tip path for its
tailing upper leg and usually a brisk stop.
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Tailing loop
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Non-loop is not a true loop: it has casting stroke with pure
convex rod tip path. Fly line cartwheels off rod tip path. There
is no energized straight upper leg.
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Non-loop
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The same five slides appear next but with traditional
teachings added.
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Tight loop has casting stroke with SLP for its straight
upper leg, and an abrupt/brisk stop for its narrow loop
size.

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Traditional teaching attributes tight loop to SLP
alone, reasoning that rod tip movement after line
launch is insignificant.
Tight loop
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Open loop has casting stroke with an ascending SLP for
its dome-shaped upper leg and a lengthy extended stop
for its large loop size.
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Traditional teaching attributes open loop to convex tip path.
Open loop
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Wide loop has casting stroke with SLP for its straight
upper leg, and a gradual stop for its wide loop size.
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Traditional teaching attributes wide loop also to convex tip
path. The difference between open loop and wide loop is
not appreciated.
Wide loop
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Tailing loop has casting stroke with dipping tip path for its
tailing upper leg and usually a brisk stop.
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Traditional teaching: concave, dipping tip path.
Tailing loop
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Non-loop is not a true loop: it has casting stroke with pure
convex rod tip path. Fly line cartwheels off without regard to
stop. There is no energized straight upper leg.
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In traditional teaching, no casting stroke is made at all
because no loop is thrown.
Non-loop
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Relationship Between Loop
And Cast
From the opposite perspective we can ask
ourselves what loop is produced when we
execute a certain casting stroke and stop.
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What loop has casting stroke with SLP and
an abrupt/brisk stop?

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What loop has casting stroke with SLP and
an abrupt/brisk stop?

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Tight loop
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What loop has casting stroke with
ascending SLP and an extended stop?
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What loop has casting stroke with
ascending SLP and an extended stop?
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Open loop
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What loop has casting stroke with SLP and
a gradual stop?
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What loop has casting stroke with SLP and
a gradual stop?
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Wide loop
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What loop has casting stroke with dipping
tip path?
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What loop has casting stroke with dipping
tip path?
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Tailing loop
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What loop has casting stroke with pure
convex rod tip path?
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What loop has casting stroke with pure
convex rod tip path?
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Non-loop
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Relationship Between Loop
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The same five slides appear next but with traditional
teachings added.
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What loop has casting stroke with SLP and
an abrupt/brisk stop?

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Tight loop
Traditional teaching: What loop has casting stroke
with SLP?
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What loop has casting stroke with
ascending SLP and an extended stop?
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Open loop
Traditional teaching: What loop has casting stroke
with convex tip path?
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What loop has casting stroke with SLP and
a gradual stop?
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Wide loop
Traditional teaching: What loop has casting
stroke with convex tip path?
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What loop has casting stroke with dipping,
concave tip path?
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Tailing loop
Traditional teaching: What loop has concave tip
path?
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What loop has casting stroke with pure
convex rod tip path?
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Non-loop
Traditional teaching: What loop has no casting
stroke!?
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Relationship Between Loop
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Some common questions from students
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Student: How do I get to throw a tight loop?
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Student: How do I get to throw a tight loop?
Answer:
1. Casting stroke with SLP.
2. A brisk stop.
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Student: How do I make my tight loop wider
but still keep the straight upper leg?
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Student: How do I make my tight loop wider
but still keep the straight upper leg?
Answer:
1. To throw a wide loop, maintain your casting
stroke with SLP.
2. Make a gradual stop by rotating the rod tip
away from SLP before halting the rod.
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Student: How do I make my wide loop
narrower, into a tight loop?
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Student: How do I make my wide loop
narrower, into a tight loop?
Answer:
1. Your wide loop already demonstrates a
straight upper leg;
2. All you need to do is to change your gradual
stop into a brisk stop.
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Student: How do I make my tight loop even
narrower?
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Student: How do I make my tight loop even
narrower?
Answer:
1. Maintain your casting stroke with SLP.
2. Manipulate rod tip during stop so that rod tip
has smaller counter-flex.
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Student: How do I make a very large loop?
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Student: How do I make a very large loop?
Answer:
1. Start casting stroke with an ascending SLP.
2. Follow with an extended stop to produce an
open loop.
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Student: I am throwing an open loop.
How do I get to throw a true loop?
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Student: I am throwing an open loop.
How do I get to throw a true loop?
Answer:
If you direct your line carry with more force
toward the target the loop may merge to
become wide loop.
If you learn to apply a brisk stop the wide
loop may merge into tight loop.
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Student: Help me with my tailing loop!
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Student: Help me with my tailing loop!

Answer:
You need to throw a straight upper leg.
You need to develop SLP with your casting
stroke.
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Student: What is SLP?
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Student: What is SLP?
Answer:
SLP refers to Straight Line Path of the rod tip
during casting stroke. There are two
necessities.
Rod tip must travel straight on the horizontal
plane. We accomplish this with straight rod
tracking.
Rod tip must travel straight on the vertical
plane. We accomplish this with smooth
acceleration.
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Student: Will SLP alone produce for me a
tight loop?
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Student: Will SLP alone produce for me a
tight loop?
Answer:
Ah, we go back to the beginning. SLP only
promises a straight upper leg. To throw a tight
loop you need
1. Casting stroke with SLP
2. A brisk stop.
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The End
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The End
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