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Trial Transcript 07 29 2014
Trial Transcript 07 29 2014
Trial Transcript 07 29 2014
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Plaintiff,
No.
VS.
ANNABEL ME LONGO ,
Defendant.
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08 CR 10502-01
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2014.
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APPEARANCES:
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MS.
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JENNIFER BONJEAN,
on behalf of the Defendant.
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OPENING STATEMENTS
By Ms.
By Ms.
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WITNESSES
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Shahna Voita
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Detective William Martin
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Carol Spizzirri
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Jury Trial
Mary Ellen Kusibab
CSR License No.:
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By Ms.
By Ms.
Bonj ean . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Zarkos . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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(Whereupon,
presence of the
please.
MS.
Annabel Melongo.
THE COURT:
jury.)
ZARKOS:
Zarkos -- Z- a-r-k-o-s.
MS.
DASGUPTA:
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MS .
BONJEAN:
Good morning,
Your Honor.
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the defendant,
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THE COURT:
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on behalf of
Annabel Melongo.
And Ms.
Good morning,
Melongo is here.
everybody.
We had spent a
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indicated that
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the circumstance.
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make a
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won't permit .
arguing - -
discussing the
I
have,
I
I
suppose I
can call
before I
do?
MS.
ZARKOS:
Your Honor,
ruling,
Downed system;
had a
chance to speak
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in the e-mai l
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system.
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THE COURT:
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don't
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that down.
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MS.
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THE COURT:
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Ms.
downed system.
ZARKOS:
but I
No problem.
Do you want to say anything further,
Zarkos?
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MS.
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record,
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5th.
ZARKOS:
No.
May 1st;
the
THE COURT:
MS.
So on May 1st,
the
ZARKOS:
THE COURT:
MS.
BONJEAN:
Yes,
Ms.
Your Honor.
Bonjean?
And,
again,
in
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troubling me,
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State.
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quite honestly.
I'm
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i t ' s important to
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Ms.
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believed Ms.
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was -- in fact,
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Spizzirri
We also know,
Your Honor,
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Ms.
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That
because I
that
Spizzirri,
from her
huh,
jury,
the jury
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That's implausible.
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sense wh atsoever.
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If
On its face,
it makes no
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perspective.
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Ms.
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Unfortunately,
surely we
you know,
hasn ' t
Ms .
Spizzirri
THE COURT:
I mean,
statements,
prior
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impeachment for.
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Ms.
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financial purpose.
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discussing,
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MS .
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correct?
BONJEAN:
Yes,
Your Honor.
That's right,
correct .
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THE COURT:
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Thank you.
commented on it.
appreciated it then,
And I
I think
challenging.
Obviously,
as I discussed yesterday ,
the allegations
limine,
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organization.
Certainly,
I guess
an issue
not to mention,
suppose,
presuming for
Spizzirri did,
the question of
whether Ms.
But,
in fact,
engage in any
protect Ms.
Spizzirri
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Ms.
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Ms.
Melongo.
Now,
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I certainly am not
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falsely.
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But the
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A motive
while not
primary,
which is whether or
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appropriate.
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this manner.
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So I
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moment - -
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contributions.
organization,
vis - a-vis,
any
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government agencies.
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Ms.
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her.
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Spizzirri,
Now,
Spizzirri
They can go on
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II,
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the reason I
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allegation by Ms.
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Melongo
and
But
computer could,
fact,
didn't.
did or didn't;
fact
in fact,
Melongo.
And,
in point of
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Ms.
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turn,
Spizzirri,
Melongo,
in
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Ms.
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it is.
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that Ms.
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But I
don't believe
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and II,
if the defense is
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MS.
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THE COURT:
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defense will
if the defense
sword.
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Now,
BONJEAN:
Yes,
indeed,
If you do it,
it is.
you can't complain
BONJEAN:
Never would.
Fully understand,
Judge.
THE COURT:
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is my fault,
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MS.
which
BONJEAN:
Your Honor,
I have one
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question/concern.
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This morning,
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Presumably,
would be coming in
assume,
through,
addressed,
ZARKOS:
MS.
BONJEAN:
Ms.
Counsel?
Your Honor,
is a
would
MS.
But I
their expert.
don't know if
suspect.
And I
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intend to offer.
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that this,
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account.
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examination
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Now,
in fact,
I
is Ms.
chain
So before the
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meet.
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express a
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witnesses.
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loss how
ZARKOS:
But --
that.
Counsel;
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MS.
BONJEAN:
MS.
ZARKOS :
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MS.
BONJEAN:
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Yes.
This,
But
as well?
MS.
ZARKOS:
Correct.
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be the officer.
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Two
it came from.
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we are prepared to do
MS.
BONJEAN:
I don't know.
That will
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MS .
ZARKOS:
wh i ch,
bel i eve,
It's People's
is going to be
BONJEAN:
And,
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Your Honor,
would have
THE COURT:
but I
was
I
just handed
apologize.
argument.
foundation,
not laid.
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MS.
I mean,
foundation is laid.
BONJEAN:
THE COURT:
always
If they can't,
it's
Understood.
I
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thereafter.
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The reason I
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foundation for
it.
they
If they don't,
I
and I
have no different
in a proper manner,
introduction,
MS.
in my estimation.
So I'd just
BONJEAN:
No,
Your Honor.
believe the
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So
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THE COURT:
There will be a
joint motion to
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exclude witnesses.
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the proceedings;
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them in,
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swearing
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doing
lunch
will make a
else's.
Any reason not to proceed,
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MS.
THE COURT:
MS.
THE COURT:
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That's my fault,
No,
ZARKOS:
State?
Your Honor.
Defense?
BONJEAN:
No,
Your Honor.
THE SHERIFF:
Thank you.
please.
All rise.
(Whereupon,
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not anyone
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presence of the
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THE COURT:
jury.)
good afternoon,
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everybody.
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want
folks .
(Jurors sworn.)
THE COURT:
First,
Thank you.
thank you,
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my fault.
of Ms.
this hereafter.
Melongo.
could
wish to
can that I
apologize.
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to commence.
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deliberations.
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person
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programs.
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material.
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radio or television
For example,
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Such programs,
reports
Your verdict
do not
case,
or friends,
even if unrelated to
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this case,
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Lawyers,
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conducted.
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by the attorneys.
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presented.
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evidence is in,
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will
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court,
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in the
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As
Thereafter,
evidence will be
indicated yesterday,
after the
And i t is at
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evidence by me.
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exceptions to that,
such.
If there are
during trial.
your convenience.
any time.
that is
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entirely up to you.
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or the other.
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appropriate time,
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do not let
You
juror has
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leave for
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destroyed.
As I
those notes
indicated yesterday,
folks,
sit
please do so.
If as
indicated
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yesterday,
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break and I
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be regarding breaks,
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you.
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notes -- say,
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I ' l l see
excuse me,
try to
Judge,
need a break,
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admissible evidence.
When I
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sustained,
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Those
sustain an objection,
and you will
question or answer.
At this time,
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State,
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statement?
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MS.
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THE COURT:
DASGUPTA:
Yes,
Ms.
Judge.
Dasgupta,
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OPENING STATEMENT
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BY THE PEOPLE:
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It is a
MS.
DASGUPTA:
you're
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today.
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this century.
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window or a door,
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papers,
electronics.
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jewelry,
Nowadays,
their computer,
the presence,
can alter,
MS.
line of
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remove,
BONJEAN:
bank accounts.
They
They
delete information.
Objection,
Your Honor.
This
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THE COURT:
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MS.
Overruled.
DASGUPTA:
This
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Carol Spizzirri.
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passwords ,
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computer.
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Ms.
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took one.
This defendant,
The
within days of
specifically,
Spizzirri's
She accessed
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and she
And she
She forwarded
it to herself.
e-mail,
Save-A-Life Foundation.
authority to do so.
she changed
they obtained a
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laptop.
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address,
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of Save-A-Life employees'
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and passwords.
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Carol Spizzirri's,
Again,
days
Found in her
information -- usernames
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She
account.
Spizzirri's e - mail
Ms.
We're
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that she
you
Thank you.
THE COURT:
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and
Ms.
Thank you,
Bonjean,
Ms.
Dasgupta.
opening statement?
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MS.
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THE COURT:
BONJEAN:
do,
Your Honor.
You may.
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OPENING STATEMENT
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BY THE DEFENDANT:
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MS.
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gentlemen .
BONJEAN:
Thank you.
Good afternoon,
ladies and
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Ms.
right of me.
Melongo,
and I
represent
to pro v e at trial.
evidence.
Theories.
They're not
They have
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deliver.
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case here.
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And it
Now,
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opening statement,
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so disgruntled.
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She
That's what
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e-mails.
things.
improper,
Hum.
It should
A burglar steals
They're telling
There's not
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gentlemen.
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serious offense.
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THE COURT:
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Sustained.
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serious,
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Sustained.
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ladies and
An offense,
MS.
serious or not
BONJEAN:
Yes,
Ms.
Bonjean.
Your Honor.
Thank you.
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and
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client ' s
Ms.
Ms.
laptop,
Spizzirri.
Melongo.
First of all,
based on allegations of
Ms.
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things.
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question about it .
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Ms.
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information,
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said,
to passwords,
My client
all of those
There's no
that he destroyed
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MS.
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THE COURT:
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MS.
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you are
they confiscated my
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DASGUPTA:
BONJEAN:
Objection.
Overruled.
If you don ' t
hire me permanentl y ,
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And you're
gentlemen,
ladies and
False allegations
Well,
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They
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didn't do that.
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what
have
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wild assumptions.
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quite honestly,
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And,
yet,
they have no
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And,
you're
someone
MS.
ZARKOS:
MS.
BONJEAN:
Objection.
-- is guilty or not guilty of
THE COURT:
MS.
You're entitled
Overruled.
BONJEAN:
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based on,
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oh,
Now,
know
ladies and
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gentlemen.
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why.
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data,
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not -- maybe -- I
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clear.
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Forwarding an
She did
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But
e-mail to herself.
It might be something,
tampering.
alter anything.
And I
She forwarded an
prosecutor used.
e-mails.
Listen;
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overreaching.
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a determination o f
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to;
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unfortunately,
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But I
This is
will not,
are unable
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this case.
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Thank you.
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An d
THE COURT:
Thank you,
Ms.
Bonjean.
I'm going to give
THE SHERIFF:
THE COURT:
believe.
It's here.
At least one thing is going well.
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THE SHERIFF:
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All rise.
(Whereupon,
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presence of the
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THE COURT:
Thank you,
jury.)
everybody.
You can be
seated.
A real quick point before we adjourn,
did take the liberty of engendering a
the objection because I
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punishment,
response to
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the
jury,
this case.
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5
the I PI
lunch?
MS.
THE COURT:
BONJEAN:
No,
Your Honor.
(Lunch break)
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in fact,
THE COURT:
the
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MS.
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THE COURT:
BONJEAN:
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Bring the
(Whereupon,
Your Honor.
jury out.
the following proceedings
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presence of the
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THE COURT:
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jury.)
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MS.
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THE COURT:
DASGUPTA:
Miss.
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moment.
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THE CLERK:
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THE COURT:
Ms.
Gupta,
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SHAHNA VOITA,
State of Illinois,
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MS.
DASGUPTA:
In a loud ,
clear voice,
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Shahna,
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In Minnesota .
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V-o-i-t-a.
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Since 2007.
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work?
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General's Office.
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Yes,
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it is.
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analyst there?
Since 2002.
THE COURT:
I'm sorry,
Ms.
Voita.
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please.
THE WITNESS:
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THE COURT:
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Yes,
if you would,
sir.
Thank you.
I'm sorry,
BY MS.
ask
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Can I
Ms.
Dasgupta.
Go ahead.
DASGUPTA:
You said you worked in the High-Tech
Crimes Bureau?
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That's correct.
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As a
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there?
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Yes.
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Before that,
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General's Office?
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that evidence.
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was.
In that position,
special training?
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did.
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FBI,
corporations,
the
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training.
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In your career,
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hundreds.
would say
From when I
Office in Illinois.
but
Again,
July of 2006,
did you
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did.
investigating.
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seize
forensic
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It was.
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home?
don't recall.
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think it was
Palatine,
perhaps.
Here in Illinois?
Correct.
did.
there?
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do.
DASGUPTA:
So indicated.
DASGUPTA:
When you got to the scene,
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yes.
Detective
Martin?
Yes,
it was.
how many
they were?
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those computers?
A
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it was found,
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policies.
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the laptop,
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they were
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Pi.
I did.
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time you took them from the home until you got
Yes,
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they were.
to your office?
A
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room?
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I'm sorry;
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And how - -
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did.
evidence room,
A
don't understand.
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Crime Bureau.
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At some point,
computers again?
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It was a
did.
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as when I
forensic analysis on
did.
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electronic evidence,
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evidence.
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used.
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a copy.
And that we
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MS.
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THE COURT:
DASGUPTA:
May I
Yes.
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2 was
BY MS.
DASGUPTA:
2.
Can
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analysis.
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It
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was done.
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analysis?
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Correct.
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court today?
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I did.
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is the CD in
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It appears to be.
yes.
MS.
Yes.
DASGUPTA:
At this time,
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evidence.
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THE COURT:
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MS.
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THE COURT:
No objection,
Your Honor.
It will be permitted.
(Peop le's Exhibit No.
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2 be admitted into
Any objection?
BONJEAN:
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2 was
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this from a
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MS.
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THE WITNESS:
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evidence seized.
Was
DASGUPTA:
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THE COURT:
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MS.
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THE COURT:
Yes.
DASGUPTA:
Yes.
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D were
2A -
MS.
DASGUPTA:
marked 2A through D.
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THE COURT:
would
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edification,
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MS.
DASGUPTA:
Yes.
published,
you mean
And I
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THE COURT:
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MS.
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THE COURT:
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MS.
BONJEAN:
BONJEAN:
Anything objection?
No,
Your Honor.
It will be permitted.
Your Honor,
do have one
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quickly.
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THE COURT:
Sure.
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(Whereupon,
BONJEAN:
Your Honor,
don't have an
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material substantively.
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it's
For example,
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-- to
if
THE COURT:
this,
what you're
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MS.
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THE COURT:
BONJEAN:
Yes,
yes,
2A?
I'm sorry.
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inbox -- I
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suppose it is an inbox.
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MS.
BONJEAN:
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MS.
ZARKOS:
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Your Honor,
Looks like
correct?
Yes.
It's a folder within a computer,
yes.
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THE COURT:
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that it lists,
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sent?
pardon
time.
communicated,
That's my question.
MS.
It seems to be a computer.
such as
BONJEAN:
rather than a
apologize.
beg your
how is it hearsay?
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MS.
DASGUPTA:
Judge,
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sent this
(inaudible).
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DASGUPTA:
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BONJEAN:
Okay.
And I
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2014.
MS.
DASGUPTA:
I 'm
actual.
MS.
THE COURT:
BONJEAN:
Okay,
I
f i ne.
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number of uses .
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somehow,
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this,
13
wouldn't be hearsay.
14
15
hearsay purpose,
16
at that point.
17
It could be usable as a
MS.
record
BONJEAN:
and this
18
19
e-mail;
20
MS.
DASGUPTA:
21
MS.
BONJEAN:
is that right?
It was in her sent box.
In Annabel's sent box.
22
23
this?
24
MS.
ZARKOS:
Yes.
49
And
just like
MS.
DASGUPTA:
MS.
BONJEAN:
THE COURT:
we're talking
offense ,
MS.
ZARKOS:
THE COURT:
11
MS.
that's fine.
(Sidebar concluded.)
THE COURT:
14
Ms.
Dasgupta,
go ahead.
15
16
does work;
17
am I
Go ahead,
MS.
DASGUPTA:
20
THE COURT:
21
you may,
but
correct?
If
e v erybody's monitor
correct?
19
Ms.
Dasgupta.
Thank you.
May I
have the
Absolutely.
22
23
monitor?
24
but
Correct.
BONJEAN:
12
18
correct?
10
13
50
is
THE COURT:
UNIDENTIFIED JUROR:
can't
read it.
UNIDENTIFIED JUROR:
read.
( Brief pause .)
THE COURT:
Go ahead,
MS.
DASGUPTA:
Ms.
Dasgupta.
10
have marked as
11
12
BY MS.
It is now on
DASGUPTA:
13
Shahna,
14
Yes.
15
16
17
18
19
the
jury is seeing?
A
20
personal folder,
21
22
23
24
Where was
this found?
A
51
3
4
laptop.
Q
her laptop?
A
MS.
9
10
folder.
BY MS.
Q
12
THE COURT:
14
Your Honor.
DASGUPTA:
11
13
Objection,
BONJEAN:
Objection,
Your Honor;
speculative .
BY THE WITNESS:
A
15
16
an Internet browser.
17
for instance,
18
convenience,
19
20
them again,
21
BY MS.
22
23
24
or Firefox,
Safari,
DASGUPTA:
Now,
is that right?
52
no.
Yes.
file.
MS.
THE COURT:
10
BONJEAN:
Objection,
know who
Your Honor.
Ms.
Dasgupta.
11
12
BY MS.
13
14
15
16
BONJEAN:
Your Honor,
the objection --
DASGUPTA:
18
THE COURT:
19
MS.
BONJEAN:
That question I
Your Honor,
got.
if she's
Go ahead.
just asking
20
21
fine.
22
24
DASGUPTA:
17
23
just
that's
THE COURT:
Overruled.
53
MS.
THE COURT:
BONJEAN:
3
question.
BY THE WITNESS:
Melongo Annabel.
BY MS.
Voita.
DASGUPTA:
Scrolling down,
10
this before,
11
list o f
12
Ms.
Go ahead,
Very good.
And if you
13
14
15
there's a
folder here.
So i t ' s
two
16
17
one and,
18
19
20
21
22
forward,
RE,
quick
23
24
pronounce it.
54
e-mail address,
was,
Monday,
8
9
10
forward,
CSpizzirri@SALF.org.
RE,
May 1st ,
May 1st,
downed system.
2006.
The subject
2006.
list of
11
12
address.
13
14
15
Exhibit 2B,
16
17
which is People's
I'm not
18
19
shows it.
20
21
This was
22
23
24
don't
know if that
Yes.
55
laptop.
found?
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
file
And,
again ,
Melongo Annabel.
Q
12
13
14
Annabel,
as the name;
15
is Melongo Annabel@yahoo.com.
Melongo,
16
17
It is sent to an SGholar@SALF.org,
18
DNeal@SALF.org,
19
RBarnes@SALF.org,
20
and BrianSalerno@True-Consult.com.
21
22
23
24
Where,
DStolerow@SALF . org,
VDavis@SALF.org,
if at all,
Staff@SALF.org
e-mail address.
56
is there another
at the bottom.
When,
typically ,
typically,
10
is
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
MS.
BONJEAN:
Overruled.
THE COURT:
BY THE WITNESS:
A
information.
19
the top.
20
Typically,
It says,
21
MS.
22
Your Honor.
24
Your
Honor -- unusual.
18
23
date,
from,
in my experience,
BONJEAN:
THE COURT:
subject,
to.
Overruled.
57
1
2
Go ahead,
Ms.
Voita.
BY THE WITNESS:
The date ,
from,
subject,
from,
to .
top here .
sent,
subject.
There's a
MS.
THE COURT:
10
BY MS.
11
12
14
"sent:",
DASGUPTA:
Can I
Here it shows,
no date,
there's no
Yes.
DASGUPTA:
a message is
13
There 1 s
to typically is
forwarded?
header,
15
16
17
18
altered?
19
20
MS.
a
THE COURT:
BY MS.
23
24
Objection,
Your Honor.
21
22
BONJEAN:
Q
2D.
That's
in the case.
Sustained.
DASGUPTA:
I'm going to move on to Exhibit 2C and
Shahna ,
58
though.
Yes.
They appear to be ,
yes.
page 13.
It continues on to 14,
with 13.
No.
10
23,
Next to No.
Can
11
12
13
14
drive
15
drive .
16
on the C drive ,
17
18
19
20
21
Microsoft.
22
typed URLs.
23
24
"C:"
is the C
typically,
Hard disk
on a hard
Under that is
59
And then
17.
typed URLs .
What
Typed URLs is a
www.CNN.com,
well?
10
11
Q
page 14,
14
Typed URLs,
later
http,
No.
16
This is
17
18
19
http://mail.SALF.org,
20
22
when you
15
21
that number - -
12
13
that's a URL.
It is the web
is the URL o r
For clarification,
the
stands for?
23
24
Moving on to No.
60
24,
1
2
this is the
infor mation .
Microsoft,
provider.
Unde r
It was
There's registr y
10
11
www.SALF.org/2095/webmail.
under
Data,
12
13
14
again,
15
16
17
Carol@SALF.org:Hermann.
18
19
20
21
22
this is,
once
Specifically,
the,
It says
":Herman",
typically
information.
Q
23
24
61
word,
what does
2
3
Q
colon?
Now,
correct.
http/staffmail.SALF.org
10
Correct,
(sic),
that's something
11
12
password?
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
The
20
at No.
21
to be?
I
18,
This is kind of
set up .
Starting
22
Number 18?
23
Yes.
24
Once again,
62
the
Drive 1;
registry information.
to the end,
8
9
10
11
12
the
Yes.
ftp://70.142.251.
242/document.
Q
do you
13
It is an IP address.
14
15
related to?
16
17
MS.
This IP address,
BONJEAN:
Objection,
believe,
belonged --
Your Honor.
That's
18
19
20
21
THE COURT:
Overruled.
BY THE WITNESS:
22
23
MS.
24
THE COURT:
BONJEAN:
Objection;
Sustained.
63
Your Honor .
BY MS.
DASGUPTA:
MS.
objection.
5
6
7
8
THE COURT:
BY MS.
Objection,
Your Honor.
Overruled.
DASGUPTA:
IP address
Yes.
10
11
12
MS.
was told --
BONJEAN:
13
told.
14
matter asserted,
15
16
Same
Objection,
Your Honor;
was
THE COURT:
and therefore,
is rank hearsay.
jury out.
17
18
(Whereupon,
folks.
19
20
presence of the
21
THE COURT:
jury.)
22
23
because I
24
64
bottom of No.
MS.
THE COURT:
18.
ZARKOS:
Right.
How is it not hearsay if she's
MS.
URL in ,
Save-A-Life Foundation.
MS.
witness,
DASGUPTA:
BONJEAN:
MS.
11
THE COURT:
13
DASGUPTA:
First of all,
MS.
Your Honor --
10
12
DASGUPTA:
14
15
16
THE COURT:
17
MS.
DASGUPTA:
18
would go to that.
19
20
21
22
23
24
MS.
ZARKOS:
Instead of typing,
Th e URL,
it
www.SALF.org,
and it would go to
Save-A-Life.
THE COURT :
order to testify?
MS.
DASGUPTA:
65
do it,
THE COURT:
consider it a proffer.
BY MS.
8
9
10
11
12
if she didn't
I mean,
We'll
DASGUPTA:
At the time that you investigated this,
No,
no.
13
THE WITNESS:
14
THE COURT:
15
THE WITNESS:
Right.
Who told you something?
I believe,
if I
recall correctly,
16
17
Save-A-Life.
18
THE COURT:
19
THE WITNESS:
20
where it belonged.
21
THE COURT:
22
23
24
is that correct?
66
It was a
3
4
THE COURT:
that's SALF?
MS.
BONJEAN:
that.
THE COURT:
MS.
THE COURT:
DASGUPTA:
Is someone going
don't believe --
10
11
12
MS.
ZARKOS:
When the -- I
regardless
13
14
15
16
17
THE COURT:
18
MS.
19
THE COURT:
20
MS.
21
THE COURT:
ZARKOS:
ZARKOS:
listed there,
it belonged to Save-A-Life.
if
The
yes.
22
objection.
23
because I
24
67
MS.
THE COURT:
It's an IP address.
BONJEAN:
again.
that is to
10
MS.
11
objection.
12
13
14
that.
15
Detective Martin,
16
17
18
19
did.
20
21
22
23
24
they're saying --
BONJEAN:
Your Honor,
I maintain my
I mean,
I mean,
they
68
MS.
We're
In belongs to Save-A-Life.
ZARKOS:
for Save-A-Life.
51
6
MS.
BONJEAN:
ZARKOS:
entries.
91
saying anything
10
MS.
11
THE COURT:
12
MS.
I'm not
That's not --
BONJEAN:
One at a time.
ZARKOS:
13
141
15
16
MS.
BONJEAN:
And I
We're
17
mean,
18
19
20
offering it then.
21
221
23
241
MS.
ZARKOS:
Well,
if
its
BONJEAN:
69
admit evidence.
MS.
THE COURT:
ZARKOS:
don't believe --
What does it
show?
MS.
ZARKOS:
10
That's it.
11
MS.
12
that are --
13
MS.
14
THE COURT:
15
MS.
16
DASGUPTA:
ZARKOS:
Judge,
If you go -One at a
ZARKOS:
time.
apologize,
Right now,
right now
Corne on.
Your Honor.
17
goes forward,
18
now,
19
20
But right
MS.
BONJEAN:
Your Honor,
don't
22
23
regarding this.
THE COURT:
but I
21
24
If she
know what
So if we could resolve.
How is it not hearsay?
70
1
2
MS.
Save-A-Life Foundation?
3
4
ZARKOS:
Yes.
THE COURT:
MS.
DASGUPTA:
Judge,
computer,
go for a
get.
she didn't
just
10
11
12
her report.
13
MS.
BONJEAN:
Again,
14
15
16
show.
17
still don't
MS.
DASGUPTA:
Judge,
18
19
information.
20
21
22
at the IP address.
23
THE COURT:
24
but I'm
71
that on Ms.
address?
3
4
THE WITNESS:
THE COURT:
Yes,
So therefore,
Ms.
10
sir.
in your estimation,
MS.
DASGUPTA:
correct?
Right .
established that --
11
THE COURT:
12
MS.
13
though,
14
DASGUPTA:
15
MS.
ZARKOS:
16
MS.
BONJEAN:
In the e-mail,
But,
This is
it says,
Your Honor,
just
SALF. org.
that's
17
18
19
very different.
20
21
22
23
computer is.
24
a server -- or where a
72
you know,
explanations.
of different.
And I
6
7
MS.
DASGUPTF.:
this computer,
MS.
don't
Well,
know exactly --
don't
f ound in
BONJEAN:
And I
that as well.
substantively,
10
objection.
11
12
13
14
15
But nonetheless ,
16
jury,
17
matter asserted.
18
You know,
19
20
called anybody.
21
22
which is debatable.
THE COURT:
Ms.
Vo ita,
23
THE WITNESS:
24
THE COURT:
Yes,
correct?
believe so.
73
4
5
THE WITNESS:
THE COURT:
believe that I
Objection sustained.
Al l
jury out.
rise.
(Whereupon,
10
11
don ' t
6
7
Ms.
12
your examination.
13
BY MS.
14
15
MS.
Dasgupta,
DASGUPTA:
I
DASGUPTA:
16
back-tracking a
17
BY MS.
apologize,
Judge;
18.
I'm
little bit.
DASGUPTA:
18
19
20
address.
21
to the
22
23
number.
24
CNN.com.
Internet i s
74
IP or Internet
not CNN.com;
once again,
it to CNN.com.
For No.
Yes.
But for,
it is a string of numbers.
three letters.
18,
they shorten
there are
10
FTP.
11
12
13
14
15
16
another.
17
18
No.
19
Does a
20
21
Yes .
22
23
24
with a
A
75
19,
is that a
similar entry?
Yes.
No.
18?
Yes,
it is.
file transfer protocol
entry?
Yes,
10
11
12
it is.
again,
13
trying to initiate a
14
15
computer,
18,
which is
16
17
18
19
20
21
the bottom
22
23
24
76
"/document"?
MS.
BONJEAN:
Objection,
Your Honor.
At this
point,
5
6
7
8
THE COURT:
BY MS.
Q
Overruled.
don't
Overruled.
DASGUPTA:
Going down to Entry No.
21,
number,
Number 21,
once again,
is the case
10
11
12
typed URL.
13
14
administrator of the
registry information,
can you
15
16
17
Yes.
18
19
"Go To My PC"
is a
commercially-available
20
21
computers.
22
23
24
access to another
It can.
77
is?
No.
MS.
THE COURT:
MS.
BY MS.
DASGUPTA:
Yes.
DASGUPTA:
have a
May I
DASGUPTA:
When a computer is turned on,
11
12
13
16
THE COURT:
19
20
BY MS.
23
24
BONJEAN:
Objection,
Your Honor.
Ove rruled.
BY THE WITNESS:
18
22
dates and
21
there are
15
17
how is the
10
14
seat.
access?
I'm sorry;
DASGUPTA:
Somebody logs into an e-mail account.
To clarify,
78
like ,
a web-based
Is
e-mail?
if at all,
MS.
BONJEAN:
Objection,
Your Honor.
9
10
THE COURT:
BY MS.
how,
This is
also -- the
don't
know that
DASGUPTA:
If you access somebody's e-mail -- an
11
12
ways,
if at all,
13
MS.
14
THE COURT:
15
MS.
16
17
few
BONJEAN:
Objection;
hypothetical --
Overruled.
BONJEAN:
-- substantive.
BY THE WITNESS:
A
18
19
BY MS.
typicall y
DASGUPTA:
20
21
That ' s
22
23
to another person,
24
is th at e-mail changed?
79
how
3
4
If I
MS.
DASGUPTA:
THE COURT:
10
MS.
11
THE COURT:
12
13
May I
typically,
the
have a moment?
Yes.
DASGUPTA:
Thank you.
Cross-examination?
MS.
BONJEAN:
Yes.
14
CROSS-EXAMINATION
15
BY MS.
16
send an
BONJEAN:
I'm sorry.
but I
Could you -- I
17
maiden name,
18
19
Voita.
20
Ms.
don't
Voita,
know your
21
entries here,
22
23
everything.
24
And
completely understand
80
this occurred,
correct?
no,
do not.
you
correct
about today?
The entries
report?
10
11
12
Correct.
13
And,
in fact,
correct?
14
Ms.
15
Save-A-Life Foundation,
16
Correct.
17
Right.
Now,
correct?
18
19
20
right?
21
Correct.
22
23
24
That's right,
81
ma'am.
Now,
I want -- now,
THE COURT:
MS.
BY MS.
10
Correct.
You're talking about 2A,
BONJEAN:
just so
correct ?
Yes.
BONJEAN:
There's nothing that says forward,
though,
right?
11
Correct.
12
In fact,
13
right
oftentimes,
an e-mail says,
forwarded e-mail?
14
Correct.
15
Or FWD,
16
Correct.
17
18
Correct.
19
And,
right?
in fact,
20
not
21
Carol Spizzirri,
22
23
to these people;
24
That's right.
82
know.
it says,
experience.
In fact,
We don't
forwarded e-mail.
At least that's my
That's typical,
you,
client;
correct.
do
10
11
yes.
12
13
14
That's correct.
15
16
a dm in is tr at or ,
is n ' t
that right ,
17
18
19
20
e-mail address,
21
22
23
24
suppose,
although
right?
THE COURT:
This is 2A,
correct?
83
MS.
BY MS.
3
4
MS.
That's correct.
BY MS.
DASGUPTA:
Objection.
BONJEAN:
Just to point out,
10
here,
11
On this viewing,
12
Now,
131
could go get an
Yes.
BONJEAN:
71
BONJEAN:
right?
no,
Spizzirri's PC?
14
No.
15
16
No.
17
181
say,
hey,
19
PC.
20
21
going?
22
we have a
don't
copy or we have Ms .
Spizzirri's
23
24
to analyze it.
84
but I
No.
like,
No.
In fact,
10
11
third-party servers?
13
not June?
14
17
right,
I'd
July;
right?
19
MS.
22
June,
have to look.
THE COURT:
21
right?
18
20
laptop,
But correct.
Q
16
Melongo' s
12
15
BY MS.
BONJEAN:
BONJEAN:
Can you just take a look at this and tell
23
MS.
ZARKOS:
24
MS.
BONJEAN:
85
I'm not
2
3
THE COURT:
BY THE WITNESS:
BY MS.
BONJEAN:
it
10
believe so,
correct?
yes.
date or a
time about
11
12
correct?
13
Correct.
14
15
software,
16
Correct.
17
Go To My PC,
correct?
18
19
that right?
isn't
20
That's correct.
21
22
23
student,
THE COURT:
Sustained.
24
86
what is --
1
2
BY MS.
BONJEAN:
PC from school,
7
8
MS.
BONJEAN:
Thank you.
Your Honor.
Thank you.
Redirect?
12
MS.
13
THE COURT:
DASGUPTA:
Briefly.
Please.
14
REDIRECT EXAMINATION
15
BY MS.
17
right,
11
16
she would
10
DASGUPTA:
correct?
18
Correct.
19
20
Correct.
21
22
accessed?
23
Her ..
24
Ms.
Spizzirri?
87
analyzed?
Correct.
computers?
Correct.
on Exhibit 2B.
removed
forward,
the letters,
FWD?
10
Yes.
11
I want to go to 2A.
12
13
entries,
FWD,
correct?
14
Yes.
15
16
Typically,
17
yes,
that means,
18
from a CSpizzirri@SALF.org,
19
2006,
forward?
forward.
correct?
20
21
22
23
24
THE COURT:
correct.
correct?
Correct.
I'm sorry.
88
again,
Ms.
BY MS.
DASGUPTA:
3
4
Dasgupta.
May 1st,
2006,
correct?
Correct.
the defendant,
Not that
10
MS.
11
THE COURT:
12
DASGUPTA:
Thank you.
Recross?
13
MS.
BONJEAN:
Yes,
Your Honor.
14
RECROSS-EXAMINATION
15
BY MS.
16
BONJEAN:
17
Ms.
18
else;
19
Correct.
20
21
in her home,
22
friends
if anybody
children,
parents,
-- right?
23
Correct.
24
89
Melongo,
Spizzirri forwarded
correct?
Correct.
That's true,
right?
well,
you
forwarded e-mail.
right?
typically it
10
11
12
13
And
isn't
that right?
14
Correct.
15
16
17
18
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MS.
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THE COURT:
22
23
24
ZARKOS:
Objection.
I
BON JEAN:
Well,
90
had a
Melongo's computer.
Spizzirri's computer;
Correct .
And wh o m
Melongo's computer?
10
Spizzirri's PC,
right?
11
Correct.
12
13
ser v er?
14
Her who?
15
Her server.
16
Correct.
17
for
instance,
18
19
Foundation;
20
No,
21
22
23
24
MS.
to
ZARKOS:
Objection.
91
right?
such
THE COURT:
MS.
31
4
Basis.
ZARKOS:
Conjecture.
asking again.
BY MS.
BONJEAN:
providers?
Yes.
10
111
12
131
possible.
14
15
Correct.
16
171
and timestamps?
18
Yes.
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201
that right?
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MS.
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THE COURT:
231
24
it's
BY MS.
Q
DASGUPTA:
Objection;
isn't
Overruled.
BONJEAN:
I
said,
92
you can
account;
Correct.
Correct.
MS.
BONJEAN:
I
THE COURT:
MS.
10
11
Re-redirect?
DASGUPTA:
THE COURT:
excused.
12
Thank you.
No,
Your Honor.
Thank you,
Ms.
Voita.
You're
13
(No responses.)
14
THE COURT:
State,
15
Sir,
16
if you would.
17
up,
18
After you've
19
stepped
please raise
20
THE CLERK:
21
THE COURT:
Ms.
Zarkos,
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24
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State of Illinois,
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MS.
duly sworn,
ZARKOS:
Officer,
10
11
12
Twenty-nine.
13
14
Detective Division.
15
16
Officer?
Officer?
17
Ten years.
18
19
Yes;
20
21
financial crimes,
gang
crimes.
Q
22
assigned to a
23
Save-A-Life?
24
cyber crimes,
Yes,
case involving a
was.
94
2006,
were you
company known as
Computer tampering.
2006?
Palatine,
10
Yes,
11
12
Yes,
13
14
15
did.
Apartment 3A,
Illinois.
it was.
Officer?
it was.
16
Police Department,
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18
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Annabel Melongo.
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do.
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MS.
3
4
5
6
7
ZARKOS:
Annabel Melongo?
So indicated.
ZARKOS:
Was the defendant present at the time you
Yes,
10
Yes,
11
12
she was.
she did.
search of
13
Yes,
14
15
defendant?
did.
conversation with the
16
Yes,
17
18
19
20
21
22
Yes,
23
24
did.
she was.
Miranda rights?
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Yes,
she did.
Save-A-Life server .
7
8
up to two weeks.
Q
10
Yes.
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12
13
14
15
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there?
A
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21
it was.
18
19
Yes,
3 was
ZARKOS:
I'm showing you what has been marked as
22
MS.
23
THE COURT:
ZARKOS:
3,
May I
Yes.
24
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Your Honor?
BY MS.
2
3
4
Q
the
ZARKOS:
Can you tell the ladies and gentlemen of
It's a
passwords.
today?
Yes,
10
11
12
13
14
have.
bedroom
15
Yes,
16
17
the
ma'am.
name is
18
Carol Spizzirri.
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20
21
Herman.
22
23
H-e-r -- m,
24
Nancy.
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as in Mary -- a
-- n,
as
in
ZARKOS:
MS.
THE COURT:
BY MS.
approach,
May I
Your Honor?
Yes.
ZARKOS:
Yes,
What is that?
do.
labeled,
10
11
Perry Medic;
S-A - L-F
2006 ?
12
Yes,
13
did.
14
search warrant,
15
16
17
Yes,
18
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she did.
web
21
Officer,
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Yes,
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24
do.
99
1
2
3
Save-A-Life Foundation.
Yes,
6
7
8
10
11
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13
she did.
e-mail.
account.
Q
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15
16
Yes,
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18
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21
she did.
Melongo Annabel@yahoo.com.
MS.
ZARKOS:
Your Honor,
apologize.
have
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THE COURT:
23
MS.
24
THE COURT:
ZARKOS:
approach,
Absolutely.
1 00
Your Honor?
MS.
THE COURT:
ZARKOS:
All rise.
THE COURT:
witness stand.
Detective,
10
MS.
11
THE COURT:
12
MS.
13
THE COURT:
14
THE SHERIFF:
ZARKOS:
We are,
Ms.
BONJEAN:
15
folks?
Your Honor.
Bonjean?
Yes,
Your Honor.
jury.
All rise.
(Wh ereupon,
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17
18
19
THE COURT:
Ms.
21
examination.
22
BY MS.
24
everybody.
You can be
seated.
20
23
Thanks,
Zarkos,
ZARKOS:
Detective Martin,
101
Yes.
Yes,
It appears to be an e-mail.
have.
10
Melongo,
Annabel,
11
12
SGholar@SALF.org;
( sic ) at the same;
13
DSolaro
14
VD a v is at the same;
15
Brian.Salerno@True-Consults.com.
16 1
language,
18
19
22
17
the next
"from",
past the,
and then a
hey,
Carol,
from?
hyperlink of CSpizzirri@SALF.org.
Q
Is there a date?
Yes;
1s t,
2006,
at 6:04 p.m.
23
Is there a
24
No,
"to" there?
there is no t.
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May
had
Carol Spizzirri;
is that correct?
Correct.
7
8
9
10
Yahoo account.
Q
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18
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ZARKOS:
I'm going to show you what's been marked
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MS.
BONJEAN:
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MS.
ZARKOS:
22
THE COURT:
23
MS.
24
5 was
5.
Objection,
objection.
BONJEAN:
Well,
103
element,
it for.
basis.
the jury.
MS.
THE COURT:
10
11
Sure.
BONJEAN:
here soon,
Here.
THE COURT:
Hopefully,
Kelly.
folks.
THE SHERIFF:
12
All rise.
(Where upon,
13
14
15
THE COURT:
16
Detective.
17
everybody.
18
Ms.
19
MS.
Zarkos,
ZARKOS:
what is this?
20
21
from him.
22
23
THE COURT:
24
MS.
ZARKOS:
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Today,
discovery.
MS.
THE COURT:
BONJEAN:
Your Honor,
Hang on.
MS.
THE COURT:
ZARKOS:
get this?
MS.
Yes.
BONJEAN:
Well,
Your Honor,
I've seen
10
this
11
12
larger thread.
13
14
again,
if you notice,
received.
15
received it.
But,
16
of her exhibits,
17
19
And so
Furthermore,
18
THE COURT:
I asked Ms.
so
20
MS.
BONJEAN:
21
t o,
22
expert.
23
as an expert,
24
Your Honor.
In fact,
either.
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qualified as an expert.
9
10
appears to be -- am I
And I
This
11
MS.
ZARKOS:
12
THE COURT:
Correct.
As opposed to the e - mail that you
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14
15
Carol,
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17
18
19
MS.
BONJEAN:
20
THE COURT:
21
22
it is the same.
MS.
ZARKOS:
24
MS.
BONJEAN:
Moreover -No;
23
hey,
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can,
because
That's fine,
but --
THE COURT:
No.
MS.
BONJEAN:
Well,
Just
10
11
12
document.
13
THE COURT:
because
14
15
16
MS.
BONJEAN:
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18
19
wasn't.
20
THE COURT:
21
MS.
jury
that's true.
It
just
BONJEAN:
22
Honor,
23
24
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One
3
4
My point is,
THE COURT:
MS.
to the
jury.
BONJEAN:
jury.
But I
THE COURT:
No,
it wasn't,
going to be discussed.
BONJEAN:
Fair enough,
Your Honor.
and
I'm
10
11
Ms.
12
13
the jury,
MS.
15
using that.
16
MS .
18
19
20
did ask
have an opportunity
14
17
But I
DASGUPTA:
ZARKOS:
There's an objection.
ZARKOS:
What's the
jury?
21
22
23
24
THE COURT:
this one,
Well,
That's it .
108
MS.
Your Honor.
3
4
ZARKOS:
THE COURT:
printed here.
MS.
THE COURT:
ZARKOS:
Yes.
The one --
format --
MS.
THE COURT:
ZARKOS:
10
yesterday?
11
MS.
ZARKOS:
Correct.
-- than the one you showed me
It is.
12
time.
13
14
time.
15
MS.
BONJEAN:
17
I wi ll ask -- I
19
20
21
22
MS.
time
And an IP address.
MS.
Apparently,
16
18
used yesterday,
BONJEAN:
Yes.
But,
He subpoenaed Yahoo .
Your Honor,
he can't
23
24
109
He's not an
reports.
3
4
THE COURT:
showed me yesterday
MS.
THE COURT:
And my client
BONJEAN:
10
one.
Fair enough?
Fair enough?
BON JEAN:
11
MS.
12
THE COURT:
don't want to
resolve the
Your Honor.
13
was in a
14
15
16
in this case,
17
18
which,
guess,
Well,
correct?
19
MS.
20
THE COURT:
ZARKOS:
21
time on it,
22
MS.
23
THE COURT:
24
MS.
Correct.
And it has the time - -
2B has the
correct?
ZARKOS:
ZARKOS:
Correct.
So what would be the purpose of 5?
The purpose of 5 also has the IP
110
Melongo
That's it.
MS.
think I
BONJEAN:
Exactly,
Your Honor.
THE COURT:
And on 5,
think the
Ms.
10
11
Melongo?
MS.
ZARKOS:
BONJEAN:
Melongo's IP address.
12
13
Martin.
14
MS.
ZARKOS:
address.
16
her IP.
17
records.
18
21
records?
THE COURT:
is Ms.
Schiller -- or
20
MS.
23
have Yahoo.
ZARKOS:
THE COURT:
Melongo.
Melongo's IP address,
22
24
not Mr.
15
19
don't
No;
according to their
We do not
111
know this
MS.
is Ms.
ZARKOS:
belongs to Ms.
THE COURT:
MS.
THE COURT:
MS.
10
11
Melongo's
IP address.
You're
Melongo's --
ZARKOS:
ZARKOS:
An admission.
Admission by Yahoo,
apparently.
Yes.
How would that not be hearsay?
I
Because he doesn't
BONJEAN:
That's i t .
12
13
14
15
MS.
16
THE COURT:
17
MS.
ZARKOS:
18
MS.
BONJEAN:
19
MS.
ZARKOS:
20
THE COURT:
21
MS.
ZARKOS:
BON JEAN:
That goes to
Yahoo
One at a
I
time.
apologize.
The only --
He subpoenaed
Finish up.
The only purpose to get that
22
to this
23
24
cannot say.
jury,
that
which he
112
which is why I
testify.
going to go by,
10
don't think I
can -- I
I
have plenty of
11
MS.
ZARKOS:
He subpoenaed Yahoo,
asking for
12
13
account.
14
to say is,
15
16
this
17
18
is what I
received back,
want him
this is
IP address is there.
19
All
Melongo.
may I
That's
have all
20
21
22
23
24
MS.
BONJEAN:
the Court,
And,
Your Honor,
that's not -- I
113
if I
could show
My client has
entirely true.
me that this is a
response.
It says,
reference,
10
11
Well --
12
MS.
ZARKOS:
13
MS.
BONJEAN:
subpoenaed Yahoo,
don't
know what
No one from
That's all
No.
14
15
16
17
it possibly serve?
18
THE COURT:
19
MS.
20
THE COURT:
And
ZARKOS:
No.
I
21
foundation,
22
some documents,
23
story.
24
End of
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these
MS.
THE COURT:
10
that ,
ZARKOS:
MS.
12
THE COURT:
Correct.
But Yahoo's not corning in to say
ZARKOS:
No,
they're not.
13
document,
14
15
second place,
MS.
17
THE COURT:
18
MS.
ZARKOS:
ZARKOS:
19
Yahoo.
20
your ruling.
MS.
That's correct.
Okay.
Just that he received this from
That's all.
BONJEAN:
Your Honor,
I'm sorry.
22
approach?
23
place -- in the
correct?
16
24
Correct?
are they?
11
21
as some
When I
And i t does
115
May I
i t ' s hard
for me,
things.
Your Honor,
But
THE COURT:
MS .
BONJEAN:
MS.
ZARKOS:
gotten.
7
8
9
Officer,
MS.
BONJEAN:
Judge,
pursuant to subpoena.
10
11
12
13
14
i t ' s not.
15
MS.
16
THE COURT:
ZARKOS:
That was
The
jury is eating
17
their snacks.
18
offer of proof,
19
questions.
20
21
there.
22
23
24
know that.
In the nature of an
believe I
few more
Go ahead.
ZARKOS:
On that document I
116
Officer,
Yes,
did.
Melongo's e-mail?
Yes,
10
did.
8
9
received a
IP
11
THE COURT:
Why don't
12
13
Ms.
14
15
BY MS.
16
Bonjean had,
third
ZARKOS:
Here ' s
five-page document.
Did you
17
18
that?
19
20
THE COURT:
21
MS.
22
THE COURT:
23
five-minute break,
24
No,
did not.
So you're withdrawing your exhibit?
ZARKOS:
117
We'll take a
Detective.
THE SHERIFF:
(Whereupon,
81
THE COURT:
111
12
Ms.
MS.
Zarkos,
ZARKOS:
Thank you.
THE COURT:
Ms.
MS.
Bonjean,
Yes,
BONJEAN:
do.
15
CROSS-EXAMINATION
16
BY MS.
17
You may be
Detective Martin.
13
14
everybody.
seated.
10
Thank you,
Mr.
BONJEAN:
Martin,
18
19
correct?
20
Yes,
do.
21
22j
23
24
1 18
passwords,
but I
4
5
6
7
10
11
correct?
I would assume so ,
BONJEAN:
May I
Your
Honor?
THE COURT:
BY MS.
Yes.
BONJEAN:
(Continuing.)
3.
12
Yes.
13
14
15
correct?
Melongo's home,
16
Correct.
17
18
made,
right?
19
No.
20
21
22
Correct.
23
And Ms.
24
right?
119
Okay.
Now,
yes.
correct?
Correct.
9
10
11
in reference to.
12
13
14
Q
server.
15
Correct.
16
Okay.
17
in Colorado,
though;
18
19
believe so,
yes.
20
21
22
23
24
No.
That's
120
Correct.
Now,
3
4
don't
No,
10
And,
11
to Ms.
12
it analyzed?
correct?
we were not.
in fact,
Spizzirri' s
Mr.
Martin,
13
No,
14
we did not.
15
16
examined?
17
No,
18
19
providers
20
21
22
MS.
BY MS.
we did not.
BONJEAN:
Or strike that.
BONJEAN:
(Continuing.)
23
24
from them?
121
We requested it;
we
Yes.
spoke to a manager,
believe,
not
10
11
Well,
But
spoke to him,
correct?
Correct.
13
16
providers;
17
19
20
23
24
Not on that,
no.
question.
21
22
isn't
that right?
15
18
And I
12
14
but
BONJEAN:
Well,
122
THE COURT:
subpoenas.
BY MS.
4
5
BONJEAN:
Well,
Yes,
Okay.
they did.
And you saw the search warrant for
my client's house,
though,
right?
Yes,
10
11
providers,
we did.
correct,
right?
12
yes.
13
14
Correct.
15
Now,
16
17
is that right?
18
That's correct.
19
20
Melongo
2006,
correct?
21
Yes.
22
23
No,
24
we did not.
123
effect?
No,
we did not.
No,
did not.
Yes.
10
11
right?
12
Correct.
13
14
January 17th,
15
16
17
18
19
2007.
was
yes,
you
take an oath,
right?
20
Correct.
21
Took an oath,
22
but,
today?
23
Uh-huh.
24
124
Correct.
answers.
THE COURT:
MS.
page 7.
What page?
BONJEAN:
MS.
ZARKOS:
10
MS.
BONJEAN:
11
THE COURT:
12
your sake,
13
asking about.
14
15
16
Is there a
question pending,
She's
just referencing,
for
Go ahead.
BY MS.
Q
BONJEAN:
Okay.
17
time.
18
19
20
Correct.
21
22
Correct.
23
Now,
24
Counsel?
125
"Question:
At any point,
did you
allegations?
Answer :
Question:
Yes,
Melongo talk to
Answer:
Question:
I did.
Yes,
she did.
10
Answer:
11
12
13
by another employer?"
14
That's correct.
15
Or employee, my apologies.
16
17
18
19
201
Correct?
A
Correct.
22
Now,
24
I don't
21
231
yes.
sorry;
January of 2007.
You also gave testimony again under oath
126
in May of 2008;
MS.
line 6.
MS.
ZARKOS:
MS.
BONJEAN:
7
8
9
BY MS.
Q
Yes.
BONJEAN:
BONJEAN:
You also gave testimony before the Grand
right?
10
11
12
"Question:
Ms.
16
"Answer:
17
Question:
Yes,
did.
Did Ms.
20
Question:
22
d i d you confront
19
21
At any point,
15
18
yes.
13
14
believe so,
Melongo say
23
24
company.
127
Question:
account?
Answer:
Question:
Yes.
And did she also indicate to
10
11
yes."
12
Yes.
13
Now,
14
15
16
17
herself,
18
19
MS.
20
did you?
Apparently not.
BONJEAN:
THE COURT:
22
MS.
24
Your
Honor?
21
23
If I
BONJEAN:
If I
Thanks.
128
Your Honor;
1
2
3
BY MS.
BONJEAN:
Detective Martin,
with a
Correct.
9
A
Yes,
11
And,
in fact,
MS.
14
THE COURT:
ZARKOS:
15
17
18
19
do.
Comcast responded to that
13
16
Melongo's in Palatine.
10
12
it
Objection.
Sustained .
It's hearsay.
MS .
BY MS.
BONJEAN:
understand.
BON JEAN:
Comcast?
20
Yes,
21
22
THE COURT:
23
MS.
we did.
ZARKOS:
Sustained.
Objection.
24
12 9
11
2
31
BY MS.
BONJEAN:
Well,
those materials,
And,
sir,
THE COURT:
MS.
10
11
12
13
Two,
ZARKOS:
we're on 4.
mark i t as an exhibit.
MS.
BONJEAN:
but
15
MS.
BONJEAN:
16
Defendant's 2.
17
19
guess.
thought.
Actually,
THE COURT:
14
181
marked for
BY MS.
2 was
identification. )
BON JEAN:
Sir,
20
as Defendant's Exhibit 2.
211
document?
22
Yes,
23
241
do.
130
4
5
2A and 2B
BONJEAN:
7
8
by you,
correct?
10
No.
11
12
Correct.
13
Okay.
14
15
16
Sir,
I'm sorry.
Sustained,
sustained.
BY THE WITNESS:
17
18
THE COURT:
No.
19
way what I
20
minute ago.
21
MS.
Sustained.
BONJEAN:
22
Well,
I'd ask
23
MS.
24
THE COURT:
BONJEAN:
Very well .
Let's move on.
131
11
2
BY MS.
BONJEAN:
Now,
Mr.
Martin,
31
was Ms.
materials,
nature?
Melongo's
10
was a
111
they were,
12
131
like,
or I'm sorry.
correct,
search
significant amount .
but it
though.
Melongo's home?
14
That's correct.
15
161
17
Correct.
18
correct?
19
20
drive,
right?
21
No.
22
23
No.
24
132
correct?
No.
drive there?
No,
we did not.
of that,
right?
No,
we did not.
10
MS.
11
THE COURT:
12
MS.
BONJEAN:
Any redirect?
ZARKOS:
Briefly,
Your Honor.
13
REDIRECT EXAMINATION
14
BY MS.
15
16
Officer,
on July 20th,
ZARKOS:
you served your search warrant
2006;
17
Correct.
18
And Ms.
i s that correct?
19
20
21
Did
22
date,
23
24
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April?
It was in April some time.
believe so.
That's correct.
correct?
The list,
On July 20th,
is that
yes.
approximately two-and-a-half
10
11
Foundation?
12
13
MS.
14
THE COURT:
15
MS.
16
THE COURT:
17
excused.
Correct.
ZARKOS:
Thank you.
Recross?
BONJEAN:
Nothing,
Thank you,
Your Honor.
Detective.
You're
18
State,
19
if you would,
Miss.
20
21
22
hand.
23
24
if you would,
Step
134
please.
THE COURT:
MS.
Ms.
ZARKOS:
Zarkos,
Thank you,
State of Illinois,
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MS.
10
Ma'am,
ZARKOS:
11
12
13
C-a-r-o-1 -- J
14
15
16
-- Spizzirri
S-p-i-z-z - i - r - r-i.
Q
were you
employed then?
17
Yes,
18
19
Save-A-Life Foundation.
20
21
was.
ma'am?
Foundation?
22
23
24
Yes,
do.
135
Annabel Melongo?
Yes,
MS.
10
11
12
do.
Annabel Melongo?
So indicated.
ZARKOS:
Ms.
Spizzirri,
13
14
e-mail account?
15
Yes,
16
17
did.
acc ount?
18
Yes,
19
20
did.
account name?
21
22
23
H-e-r-m-a-n -- Herman.
24
136
ma'am?
1
2
5
6
did not.
marked for
BY MS.
1 was
identification.)
ZARKOS:
this document?
1.
Ma'am,
do you recognize
10
What is it?
11
12
13
do.
14
Yes,
15
16
17
18
19
20
it was.
i t was prepared?
A
It was stored in ou r
accounting locked
cabinet.
Q
Was it a
21
Yes,
22
23
24
it was.
Yes,
it would be.
137
3
4
Melongo,
630 --
That's okay.
Go ahead.
BY MS.
8
9
Annabel.
THE COURT:
Employee Name,
ZARKOS:
10
11
termination of employment?
12
Yes,
13
it did.
14
27th,
15
16
17
THE COURT:
18
Ms.
Yes,
I 'm sorry.
Zarkos?
19
MS.
20
THE COURT:
21
it did.
BY MS.
ZARKOS:
April 27th,
2006.
Thank you.
ZARKOS:
22
23
24
138
2006?
Melongo and
As of April 27th,
2006,
Foundation's computers?
It is.
passwords --
Yes.
Yes,
10
11
MS.
13
ZARKOS:
bit so Ms.
12
it does.
I'm going to turn this a little
THE COURT:
14
UNIDENTIFIED JURORS:
15
THE COURT:
16
MS.
ZARKOS:
17
working.
18
BY MS.
No.
ZARKOS:
19
20
No.
21
22
23
Ms.
Spizzirri,
24
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"from",
can you
"from",
in
11
2
31
4
51
Okay .
Melongo,
Annabel;
Melongo Annabel@yahoo.com.
Q
"to",
is there a
list
of people --
Yes.
And
91
company,
Brian Serno
(sic),
True Consulting.
10
11
No,
12
131
14
"to",
I'm not.
Annabel Melongo?
A
Not to my computer,
151
by others .
16
17
e-mail,
18
"from",
there?
no.
was notified
"from",
that
is there a word,
19
Yes,
20
21
221
list?
it is.
Or are you
referring underneath?
23
Underneath.
24
Oh,
okay .
It says,
140
cs
or CSpizzirri@SALF.org.
May 1st at
It's,
6:04 p.m.
return,
downed system.
responded to -- it says,
"RE";
Brian Serno
that's a
(sic) .
10
Yes,
11
12
Yes.
13
14
No.
15
16
ma'am?
it is.
the defendant?
17
18
19
To Brian Serno
20
21
True Consulting.
Annabel Melongo?
22
No.
23
Did you,
24
(sic),
at any time,
141
MS.
THE COURT:
MS .
THE COURT:
ZARKOS:
Thank you .
Anything further,
ZARKOS:
Ms.
Bonjean,
CROSS-EXAMINATION
BY MS.
Ms .
Zarkos?
I'm sorry.
No.
Ms.
BONJEAN :
Spizzirri,
10
11
12
Yes,
13
14
that Ms.
do.
15
16
says,
17
18
19
20
of employment.
21
windows,
22
23
24
It says,
No.
2,
it has,
company-owned i terns,
passwords.
Number 2 is passwords,
verified,
It
computer
yes .
yes,
142
passwords.
document or file,
I'm sorry;
8
9
when Ms.
don't understand.
Melongo left?
At that time,
10
she left,
11
12
no.
To my knowledge,
Sass - -
14
at
no.
13
15
16
He was a consultant.
17
consulting --
18
19
left?
20
I'm sorry.
21
22
don't remember.
the password?
23
They
24
Would an e-mail --
143
Ms.
THE COURT:
Bonjean,
next question.
4
5
6
MS.
BY MS.
BONJEAN:
Okay.
BONJEAN:
changed?
10
11
April -- March
12
13
14
time.
15
16
17
no,
Sorry.
and I
She
it
couldn't verify
Well,
Ms.
back to that.
18
April.
But I
Spizzirri,
Can you
19
20
21
22
23
Well,
24
your e-mails,
144
According to this --
Ma' am,
of the exhibit.
temps
My employees
9
10
didn't
right?
my employees.
The
right?
11
Uh-huh.
12
13
right?
14
15
Right.
16
Uh-huh.
17
19
Uh-huh.
20
18
21
yes.
it?
right?
22
23
24
sent to herself?
145
MS.
I don't understand.
ZARKOS:
Counsel,
that she --
THE COURT:
MS.
THE COURT:
BY MS.
Is that an objection?
ZARKOS:
Objection,
Your Honor.
Sustained.
BONJEAN:
10
11
Ms.
12
Melongo?
A
13
14
received it.
15
If
never
Ma'am,
16
17
permission --
Melongo
18
Right.
19
20
e-mail to herself,
right?
21
Right.
22
23
24
account,
146
right?
Yes.
account
THE COURT:
MS.
THE COURT:
ZARKOS:
Sustained,
sustained.
Objection.
Sustained AS to the form of the
question.
"sent e-mail"
MS.
BY MS.
10
ZARKOS:
Objection.
BONJEAN:
Do you have and can you pr ov ide a copy o f
11
12
13
14
15
MS.
16
TH E COURT:
17
BY MS.
I'm sorry.
ZARKOS:
19
THE COURT:
21
22
23
24
Objection,
Your Honor.
Overruled.
BON JEAN:
18
20
Yes?
Ov erruled.
BON JEAN:
And you claim that you did not send this
Right.
147
herself,
THE COURT:
of things there.
MS.
THE COURT:
it up.
BY MS.
10
BONJEAN:
Well . . .
It's a compound question.
Break
BONJEAN:
Ms.
correct?
11
did it?
correct,
Spizzirri?
12
Right.
13
14
15
16
but,
right?
yes.
to compose e-mails?
17
Right.
18
19
e-mails?
20
True.
21
22
your account,
23
24
148
Like a copy?
Or
2
3
4
attachments?
Q
Ma'am,
to somebody?
A
Like,
Sure.
Ok ay,
if I
it wou ld say,
Q
that's correct.
"RE".
Right.
That's return.
10
11
e-mail box,
right?
12
True.
13
was
14
asking.
15
16
17
18
19
No.
Now,
on that point,
20
even realize,
21
correct,
22
Uh-huh.
23
Ma'am,
24
letter
149
MS.
THE COURT:
Your Honor,
ZARKOS:
objection.
(Whereupon,
10
Let me
jury.)
ZARKOS:
11
12
THE COURT:
don't
is.
This
Is this the
13
14
this witness?
15
MS.
16
THE COURT:
BONJEAN:
Yes.
All right.
And it states on
17
Monday,
18
on Monday,
19
20
21
22
that
BONJEAN:
23
24
150
transpired;
by omission.
MS.
ZARKOS:
that to her,
sent it to her.
MS.
BONJEAN:
ZARKOS:
10
MS.
BONJEAN:
Where?
Ms.
MS.
ZARKOS:
14
clear.
16
19
She was
THE COURT:
State has to
17
18
it on May 1st.
13
15
(Sidebar concluded.)
BY MS .
Q
BONJEAN:
Ms.
Spizzirri,
20
21
22
23
24
Melongo
12
11
So
Melongo terminated
151
don't remember.
about
Maybe.
5
6
7
8
9
BONJEAN:
Okay.
11
MS.
14
BY MS.
BONJEAN:
I'm
Is that Defendant's 3?
Defendant's 3.
BONJEAN:
the record?
15
16
Attorney,
17
18
Spizzirri,
Sure.
THE COURT:
13
10
12
3 was
That was a
Dick Devine.
It's a
to Dick Devine,
19
Uh-huh.
20
21
22
see that.
23
24
paragraph.
152
THE COURT:
loud.
recollection.
BY THE WITNESS:
I do.
BY MS.
10
BONJEAN:
Ma'am,
11
12
13
No.
Melongo left?
because
14
he
15
Mr.
16
this date -- I
And
17
So,
18
19
it,
20
21
8th,
22
it
24
8th,
Well,
ma'am,
you said?
A
23
ma'am --
Yeah.
153
he changed it on May
a week after she left.
Well --
Because I
THE COURT:
4
5
6
BY MS.
Q
Sustained.
BONJEAN:
Ma'am,
MS.
ZARKOS:
MS.
BONJEAN:
MS.
ZARKOS:
10
MS.
BONJEAN:
11
THE COURT:
13
BY MS.
Q
paragraph 2.
12
Objection -I
Your Honor.
BON JEAN:
Part of your policy at Save-A-Life
14
15
the
correct?
16
Not necessarily.
17
18
19
No,
20
21
No.
22
23
24
no.
Yes.
154
MS.
ZARKOS:
THE COURT:
5
6
Your Honor.
Overruled.
Go ahead.
BY THE WITNESS:
Objection,
BY MS.
BONJEAN:
Ma' am,
10
question.
11
12
In my computer?
13
Yes,
14
Sure.
15
16
passwords,
17
18
19
20
it.
correct.
them anymore?
21
MS.
ZARKOS:
22
MS.
BONJEAN:
23
My personal computer?
Objection,
Your Honor.
24
155
BY THE WITNESS:
Excuse me.
Annabel signed --
BY MS.
BONJEAN:
Ma'am,
Do you
MS.
admonish --
BONJEAN:
THE COURT:
Judge,
10
11
12
apparently,
13
14
BY MS.
15
BONJEAN:
Now,
Ms.
Spizzirri,
have a couple
16
17
Ms.
18
person;
Melongo.
Ms.
19
He's a temp.
20
In fact,
21
22
that was a
23
organization?
24
And,
replacement or a
correct,
and
temp placement
156
replace him.
temp to
Uh-huh.
Melong o ,
correct?
Yes.
10
hired?
11
I'm sorry,
12
13
That I
14
15
16
17
18
maybe.
Q
Several months,
don't.
No,
no.
the passwords.
What it was,
he wouldn't gi v e up
He changed
19
He,
20
21
22
23
24
too,
In fact,
according to you,
he threatened
ZARKOS:
Objection.
157
1
2
Sustained.
BY MS.
Sustained.
THE COURT:
don't
Well,
Ms.
Spizzirri,
according to you,
tampered with y o ur
person who,
passwords and --
9
10
11
12
13
No,
Okay.
Well,
did you ha v e
any understanding
ZARKOS:
Objection.
scope.
THE COURT:
15
MS.
16
Honor.
17
BY MS.
19
He wouldn't
14
18
BONJEAN:
Sustained.
Sustained.
BONJEAN:
BON JEAN:
And,
in fact,
Ms.
20
Yes.
21
22
Your
performance;
correct?
Mel o ng o 's
23
24
believe so.
158
communications to people.
her performance?
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
12
Okay.
And,
in fact,
13
14
16
17
18
19
20
isn't
that right?
11
15
isn't
that right?
10
helpful;
you don't
Melongo;
she did.
know who
you just
correct?
didn't even
receive it.
Q
Right.
forward it,
A
You don't
no.
21
Who did a
22
was told.
I mean,
they traced
footprint?
23
24
he -- he traced it.
159
And - -
the
And that
He traced it?
Yes.
6
7
Well,
but,
yes.
Like I
True Consulting.
10
11
12
said,
don't know
13
14
it to me on May 8th,
15
particular time,
16
17
18
19
time,
20
21
22
when,
23
24
in fact
because at this
And I
you know,
And,
He presented
didn't find
And so by that
And I
don't
Ms.
Spizzirri,
160
A
anyhow.
5
6
somewhere?
At my home.
10
Okay.
11
Uh-huh.
12
Now,
right?
13
not,
according to you - -
according to you,
14
15
subject matter,
downed system,
You did
you
believe,
the
to Ms.
Melongo,
right?
16
Correct.
17
18
19
her,
can you?
A
20
anybody else,
21
response to our - -
nor would
22
My question is,
23
24
understand.
161
you
to her,
5
6
7
according to you,
I'm sorry.
I'm really -- I
Q
Now,
you
can you?
You
if it wasn't you?
10
MS.
11
THE COURT:
12
13
ZARKOS:
Objection.
Overruled.
BY THE WITNESS:
I would say that she was -- when she was
14
terminated,
15
BY MS.
16
BONJEAN:
17
e-mails.
18
19
right?
right,
20
to work,
21
e-mails,
we had no nothing.
22
23
24
e-mails.
162
we had no
that;
We
No.
Ma'am,
10
do
you?
Foundation;
11
Yes,
12
13
Uh-huh.
14
It was closed,
15
16
17
Yes.
18
19
ma' am.
correct?
records?
yes.
20
Oh,
21
22
and reports,
correct?
23
Yes.
24
163
Illinois
Attorney General --
THE COURT:
MS.
THE COURT:
Sustained,
BONJEAN:
I
that.
abided by.
MS.
THE COURT:
10
11
BON JEAN:
but not to
Okay,
Your Honor,
but
Let's go.
MS.
BONJEAN:
12
13
THE COURT:
understand.
but I
at sidebar,
15
16
MS.
17
THE COURT:
18
MS.
19
THE COURT:
will.
BONJEAN:
want to follow
--
No problem,
Your Honor.
Yes,
do.
Great.
(Whereupon,
21
23
which I
24
objection.
Thank you.
BONJEAN:
20
14
22
sustained.
Your Honor --
sustained,
forbade
jury. )
After a
164
MS.
THE COURT:
BONJEAN:
I
I
said -- I
MS.
THE COURT:
MS.
BONJEAN:
Okay.
That's it.
BONJEAN:
Okay.
10
THE COURT:
11
12
13
14
MS.
BONJEAN:
specifically stated
a specific agency.
I
I
didn't
was quite
15
THE COURT:
16
Let's go.
(S idebar concluded.)
17
18
THE COURT:
BY MS.
19
BONJEAN:
Ms.
Spizzirri,
20
21
22
23
the
24
165
levels.
Ms.
THE COURT:
Spizzirri,
or no?
7
8
THE WITNESS:
12
13
not to my knowledge.
Yes
Are
No.
Yes or no;
you've answered
the question.
10
11
No,
BONJEAN:
please.
Your Honor.
BONJEAN:
Ms.
Spizzirri,
14
15
16
No,
17
And,
18
never
ma'am,
no.
No.
19
We started,
20
21
Yes.
22
23
MS.
24
THE COURT:
ZARKOS:
Objection.
Overruled.
166
11
BY MS.
BONJEAN:
The basis of that lawsuit was based on
your computers;
without going
we had lost.
10
111
out of court,
13
MS.
14
THE COURT:
15
MS.
wages -- what
Yes.
BONJEAN:
One second,
Your Honor.
BONJEAN:
16
sidebar before I
17
Ms.
Your Honor,
can we have a
quick
Spizzirri?
THE COURT:
19
Sure.
(Whereupon,
20
21
MS.
22
23
MS.
24 1
because
the lawsuit?
12
18
basically,
BONJEAN:
BONJEAN:
jury . )
(Inaudib le ).
What?
167
request
financial
records.
not true.
3
4
THE COURT:
MS.
THE COURT:
BONJEAN:
MS.
BONJEAN:
11
MS.
12
THE COURT:
13
BONJEAN:
MS.
15
THE COURT:
16
MS.
BONJEAN:
BONJEAN:
22
Nothing more.
I'm just curious.
Your Honor,
18
21
14
20
19
I'm sorry?
10
17
we have?
which is
(Sidebar concluded.)
BY MS.
Q
BONJEAN:
Ms.
Spizzirri,
charitable foundation?
A
23
24
168
and
from you;
Well,
down,
they do.
Okay.
10
THE COURT:
No;
Defendant's 3
12
14
Defendant's 4;
11
13
records
4 was
BONJEAN:
15
16
of that letter,
17
18
19
20
do.
auditor.
Q
financial
21
22
23
As a nonprofit,
24
year.
169
Yes,
absolutely.
to-date.
MS.
THE COURT:
BONJEAN:
Your Honor.
Thank you.
Redirect examination?
MS.
ZARKOS:
Very briefly,
Your Honor.
REDIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MS.
10
Ms.
ZARKOS:
Spizzirri,
11
12
is that correct?
13
Yes,
14
15
ma' am.
16
Absolutely not.
17
18
19
Consulting.
20
21
( sic ) fr om True
Ms.
Ma'am,
2006?
22
Uh-huh.
23
24
calendar?
170
It was a Thursday.
4:00,
would say,
about
Uh-huh;
27th;
is that correct?
Right.
10
Therefore,
11
28,
29,
12
is that correct?
A
14
MS.
15
THE COURT:
16
MS.
17
THE COURT:
18
MS.
19
THE COURT:
21
22
23
excused.
counting forward --
13
20
May 1st,
Yes,
ma'am.
ZARKOS:
ZARKOS:
BONJEAN:
Thank you.
Anything further,
No,
Ms.
Zarkos?
Your Honor.
Recross?
No,
Your Honor.
Thank you,
Ms.
Spizzirri.
You're
another break.
THE SHERIFF:
jury,
you get
24
171
jury.
(Whereupon,
4
5
THE COURT:
everybody.
You may be
seated.
State,
MS.
THE COURT:
Thank you,
ZARKOS:
we do not,
Your Honor.
10
presented?
11
MS.
12
THE COURT:
13
MS.
ZARKOS:
ZARKOS:
Yes,
14
15
through A through 2
16
and Exhibit 4.
17
THE COURT:
18
MS.
ZARKOS:
Your Honor.
1,
What was
Four,
Exhibit 3
4 again?
Your Honor,
is the --
19
20
Melongo's bedroom.
21
THE COURT:
22
MS.
23
24
ZARKOS:
Annabel
Your Honor.
Employee
passwords.
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those,
MS.
Ms.
Bonj ean?
BONJEAN:
No objection.
THE COURT:
MS.
BONJEAN:
jury or is that
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motion.
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we're
No objection.
State rests?
Yes,
Ms.
BONJEAN:
THE COURT:
notes,
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Your Honor.
Bonjean?
Yes,
Your Honor.
do have a
Please.
BONJEAN:
Your Honor.
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but I
don't
know if
BY THE DEFENDANT:
MS.
BONJEAN:
Your Honor,
yes,
we would move
indictment,
1st,
in Schiller Park,
2006,
e-mails.
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herself.
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Now,
Illinois,
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apparently,
first
computer e-mail
forwarded to Ms.
and foremost,
Melongo by
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of Count III,
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has
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intent.
for Ms.
The
Melongo to be guilty
altered.
But our
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as to change.
Now,
The Webster's
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offense.
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well,
maybe when it
got forwarded,
you know,
that Ms.
being altered.
but that
timestamp.
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the State
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As a
result,
to the State,
And this,
knowing alteration.
She has to
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Spizzirri's
computer,
Spizzirri's computer,
which
they have
computer.
expert witness,
expert,
Spizzirri's
Their
can't say
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that Ms.
Spizzirri's e-mail
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account.
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just testified,
I don't know,
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available;
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Certainly the
didn't do it,
Melongo.
Spizzirri herself
don't know,
know
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which it wasn't.
case.
a hunch.
They simply
It is merely
Your Honor,
And,
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that Martin,
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e-mail server.
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indictment alleges.
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it up,
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Well,
of course,
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So Martin is saying,
with,
again,
no,
she
nothing to back
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No.
even do that.
They didn't
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and say,
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their burden,
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well,
she could
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proposing here.
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change.
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written by Ms.
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according to them,
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And,
Melongo
i t ' s inherently
forwarded.
quite honestly,
it wasn't forwarded.
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We don't know.
THE COURT:
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State,
Thank you,
Ms.
Ms.
There's
just
Bonjean.
Zarkos or Ms.
Dasgupta,
do you
wish to respond?
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ZARKOS:
Your Honor,
in light of the
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e-mail itself.
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to herself.
2006,
As counsel said,
the alteration.
And it says,
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We have the
it speaks for
she forwarded
forwarded to me and I
and on.
to a consultant,
e-mail.
not to Ms.
Ms.
Spizzirri
Melongo.
That top
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no other explanation.
Spizzirri's password.
including
Hermann
And
on Monday,
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May 1st,
2006.
She was
There's
testimony of Ms.
Spizzirri.
of the officer.
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BONJEAN:
Your Honor,
if I
could respond
just briefly.
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not yet.
ZARKOS:
The alteration,
Your Honor,
is
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forwarded to me.
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other people.
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she
we're saying
THE COURT:
Taking the
closing arguments.
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apparently,
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list.
It's not
She accesses a
She gets the
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ZARKOS:
Correct.
According to the res gestae in the
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e-mail server,
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e -mail account.
And
Spizzirri,
she
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Spizzirri's
MS.
THE COURT:
Ms.
Misappropriated.
How does that alter
ZARKOS:
ZARKOS:
the
computer program.
e-mail is data;
THE COURT:
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but your
Your theory,
going
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gets added,
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May 1,
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maybe Ms.
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Spizzirri's account,
it's
when,
in point of fact,
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ZARKOS:
or
correct?
Correct.
So your theory,
then,
is that the
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Spizzirri' s computer,
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sent to Ms.
Melongo?
Correct.
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computer.
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MS.
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damage,
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computer?
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don't believe I
have to prove
THE COURT:
mean,
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ZARKOS:
No.
Does it prevent Ms.
Spizzirri or
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intended or anticipated?
MS.
ZARKOS:
THE COURT:
MS.
No.
It's not a
BONJEAN:
loaded question.
Your Honor,
if i t was done,
THE COURT:
Spizzirri's account.
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correct,
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MS.
which has
Melongo,
Well,
certainly,
correct?
that is one of
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our theories.
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herself,
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know.
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It doesn't exist.
forwarded,
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Let
So we
We don't
which easily
or FW.
Like,
It
guess
But
this does
THE COURT:
MS.
ZARKOS:
No.
RULING
Anything?
THE COURT:
And as I
indicated yesterday,
interesting case,
ably
Interesting
There were
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which
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matter,
for that
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three,
quote,
State's case.
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nonmoving party,
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a reasonable doubt.
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to
some
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read,
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language.
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or data.
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Melongo
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apparently,
Ms.
showing that
Melongo's,
had an
2006.
Actually
Spizzirri but
evincing,
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impression of Ms.
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days earlier.
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fact,
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Spizzirri.
Motivated,
perhaps,
according to the
that,
in point of
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behalf.
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at this juncture.
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could conclude,
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Bonjean on Ms.
Melongo's
in my estimation,
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that Ms.
Melongo
any
Certainly the
The
that.
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altered,
deleted or removed.
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In determining
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Class B misdemeanor.
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program or data.
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causing it to be
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accessed,
the
You
it's a
or a
computer program,
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thus evincing a
that by virtue of
program is,
thereafter,
damaged,
altered,
anticipated.
deleted or removed;
destroyed or
that is to say,
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was,
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accessing it,
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Ms.
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program,
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program,
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forwarded to Ms.
Spizzirri,
thereafter
Melongo
showing that in
Melongo or to whomever,
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but
Ms.
Melongo,
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it doesn't appear to me
additional data.
delete anything.
in paragraph 3,
deletion or removal,
It may add
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program is manipulated,
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affected it,
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originally anticipated.
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do not fault or
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argument,
computer tampering.
Anything further?
Court is adjourned.
Thank you,
everyb ody .
(Jury dismissed.)
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STATE OF ILLINOIS
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an Official
County,
Division,
Illinois,
County Department,
that I,
Criminal
reported in
thereafter,
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