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Understanding Deflection
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Hi,
Please see attached model of a portal frame where I am trying to carry out a deflection check on le
hand post. while using CAN 1 command, Staad reads the nodal deflection at top of the column
(694.2mm) and divides by 10mm (8000mm (post height) / 800 (DEFF parameter)) to get a UR. Now f
the same post, using CAN 0 parameter it gives me a UR of 11.4. I am not sure how Staad calculates
that!?
For CAN 0 case, I have split member in to various segments and the UR (max) now is 11.4
(corresponding to a deflection of 110.4mm!) for member 5, with relative displacements for node 6
being (523.72 -491.74 ~32mm). I still can not obtain 110.4 deflection even while subtracting N6 or N
deflections from that at top of the post.
Please suggest!!
Structure1.std

xyz111

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Shany
In Staad, the deflection check is carried by:
Ratio = DFF / dff
where dff = Length of the member / actual displacement
and Dff = user defined ( 800 in this case )
The actual deflection of the members are calculated from the line connecting the DJ1 and DJ2
node. (please see Deflection pic attached) . For these particular members, you have defined
node 1as DJ1 and node 1 as DJ2.
The actual deflection is the local deflection of the entire beam between node 1 and 1. This
means you need to create a physical beam between node 1 and node 2, and find the local
deflection of this beam .
Now the actual deflection is calculated as : x2 + y 2 + z 2
where x , y and z are the local deflection of the beam .
So, the actual deflection is : 02 + 113.5792 + 02 = 113.579
Dff = 8000/113/578 = 70.435 ( length of entire beam is 8m)
Hence ratio = DFF/dff = 800/70.435 = 11.4

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Thanks.

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