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Hackford, Plato's Phaedrus
Hackford, Plato's Phaedrus
by a man of generous and humane character, pecs but that hypothesis is not Socrates's own: his own (and
Nie Joved or had once loved another such as himself: suppose he g's) slew, to be developed later Inthe dialogue, is shat rue fs,
ugh based on physical desire, transcends it, and hence oterip?
Treard we saying that for some trifling cause lovers conceive biter Sears based on
ened and a spict of malice and injury towards their loved ones er oe ee Tat yaoi eoeoalyunderionl
aaa he be sure to think that we had been brougat up among the iby dates mechs agus Miceli; wee
eof the people andhad never seen a ease of noble love? Wouldnt Bono pues te ups hae bre eee Deoeenen
las) hee topic further by a second speech of his own
(ego) That was nop it em, gut wat Phas expe and
haps not quite what the seader expects: instead of a discussion
then ut of reapect for him, and in awe of Love himsel eet) we are to havea third algcoune Why that anti
Thou like wo wash the bitter taste ost of my mouth with a draught BBB ones daneant ree orien surprised,
rae eonoaesand my advice ro Lis is that he should 1 Apel ene eg tetany ed fgg aoe re
aac in eling us Hat, other things being equal, favour shoul Rover bern presi Reece he
recorded tothe lover rater than tothe non-lover. Tyyarenewed allusion 1 hs fonds fot hoyos im 4 pmage wh
Oh Rest assured, that will be done. When you have delivered ¥P. Friedlnder (Di in a passage which is
encomium of the lover, I shall most certainly make Lysies Sou hslndee (Die Pltotchen Schrifin p 44) thnks this shows hat
cn Sy bran ayer S20 cond ech “nmaglably and to Pen Sel od
: hsan indication that ‘auch her wieder dee Kampf
"Soe. 'm sure of that, s0 long as you continue to be the man ork und Phil oder de Katsofrwiachen sophitichen
he utterly refuse to accept our vilification of Love?
Ph. Indeed, Socrates, he well might.
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the may think of it in theory. oe
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+ Lysia will not be able to resist Phaedeus,
hhetose endures.54 PHAEDRUS
doubtless intended by Plato to recall once more the Symposium, where
the whole series of speeches including of course his own) sprang from
Phaedrus’s suggestion.
“The mention of Simmiss a8 the one man who excelled Phacdrs in
fondness for discourses may be an allusion to the Phaedo, where his
determination to thrash out the subject under discussion to the bitter
fend is forcibly expressed (85): but of course it may well be that in
Socratic and Platonic circles the giAohoyla of Simmias was proverbial,
“The mention by Socratss at this point of his ‘divine sign’ is dramati—
cally admirable, for he is zbout to make a volte-face, and this is ahappy
means of making, him do co in a dramatically convincing way. It
should be noticed that here, as in pol. 31 (he locus elassicus for the
Sign) its function is exclusively inhibitory, 2s against Xenophon's
account (9 ‘atrod 18 Boiséov tour’) ipoonuaivay &re Blot
Nal & uh Clon sroulv, Mem. 1v, viii; 1). Yet the action of the Sign
fs here only formally irhibitory: it forbids him to depart without
making an atonement, but ia effect it commands him to make one.
T do not think that the introduction of the Sign here has any deeper
significance; and in particular I cannot accept Robin’s suggestion that
the inspiration which Socrates has acknowledged earlier, the inspiration
of the local deities, s hereby repudiated and replaced by another and.
2 higher one.’ Nowhere do we find Socrates regarding himself a8
inspired by the Sign, inthe sense of being possessed by the deity from
‘whom it emanated; and on the other hand, the renewed mention of the
Nymphs and Pan ar 263 and, even more, the final prayer to “Pan and
the other gods of this place" (2798) surely make it impossible to believe
that their inspiration comes ‘from below’ and is abandoned at this
point.
"That Socrates should compare his recantation to the famous
Palinode of Stesichorus, in which that poet had adopted the legend of
the phantom Helen, so well known to us from the play of Euripides, is
very natural, one might almost say inevitable” There is, howevet
nother sort of palinode, or apparent retraction, on the part Of
Socrates which demands some comment. In the Symposium he had
firmly denied, through the mouth of Diotima, that Eros isa god: he:
is only a Sain, a being intermediate between gods and men,
therewith a mediator and messenger between them (202-2), But nox
is divinity i aserted vith no less emphasis: t 8° tow, Somep of
+ Robin, ps mmiv: *Clest Tadmonition démonique quia vraiment permis 8
soot ee tnt de son poss ex done itil dee
see i ome coupe supiicaive dans le développement du dialogue: 8 506
Itong vi dan iar en bias dea ee sy "vient ea
14 shove) Me R. L. Howland (C.Q. xxx p. 154) dete
Fy Aalicous sor, to Taocrates's Hele
* Hlre again
1 covert allusion,
EROS IN syMposruM 5
tars, 6055 11 Belov 6 "Epes (2422). The question is, why did Pl
cove to approach the exposition of his own view of Eros from two
{iiferent standpoints? Why does he stare (or rather make Socrates-
‘Diotima start) in the Symposium by denying that Erosis a god? Only,
T think, because he feels that to call him a god is to obscure what he
‘anf bring ot namely dat loving” is eentally the soul's efor
qo satisfy a-want, t0 attain to the eternal possession of the good and the
[eStaful ‘The ‘daemonie” or intermediate nature of Eros is simply the
mythical way of expressing that to love is to make a progress from
‘ant tsfcdon fom misery ols, rom ignorance ro knowledge
Tn the Phaedrus, however, Plato does not start from the conception
of a progress—though that conception is fully present at a later stage
fof Socrates's second speech—but (as we are about to find) from that of
‘possession, the divine madness by which the lover is seized. That being,
£0, he must necessatily postulate a personal deity as its source. Hence
he naturally makes Socrates here accept the common belief that Eros
is Gs fh 7 Ottov.*
‘The discrepancy, then, between the two dialogues may fairly be said
tobe due to the fact that in order to bring out two complementary (not
contradictory) aspects of love it seemed natural to Plato to employ two
diferent, pronications of i the “aemon’ with his fonction as
intermediary, and the god filing his worshipper with his own super-
uma eupee-ratonal powsc = ee aatiees
sot, the end of the section (2430) Phaedrus remarks that, when
Sout a elvere his encomium onthe love, he wil have 8 make
ys wt nother speech othe same purport, This serves ro remind
sof what we have noted befor, that Phaedrusis concerned not with
uh bu with keto That Lysis (or anyone ele) should mainain
ems to Phaedrus perfectly in order: all that
matters is the eloquence. Po
seb pt ral oon cn en ere
qitemye cm men ech ro
ong Rtn Se nay ee
‘conception has served its purpose, and is in effect dropped.vu
243F-245C SOCRATES BEGINS HIS SECOND SPEECH,
‘THREE TYPES OF DIVINE MADNESS
in. sion to his resolve to sing a palinode, Socrates declares that whereas
ete speech was the fee fF Phaedrus, this will be the work of
‘Stesichorus. The thesis of Lysias was a ‘false tale’, since it assumed that
‘madness is in all cases an evil. In reality it may be a divine boon. There
‘are three types of divine madness, (1) that of divination or prophecy, such
cas belongs to the priestess a: Delphi: this muse be distinguished from the
ferior practice of rational augury, and etymology helps us to maintain
the distinction; (2) that which heals she sick by means of purifications and
rites revealed to a frenzied shee (3) poetical frenzy, which gives rise to
Fe Pe ae ht lve tr afart pee dina madust ond
to that end we must discern the nature of soul, both human and divine,
243% Soe. Now you must uncerstand, fair boy, that whereas the preceding
42 discourse was by Phaedrus son of Pythoces, of Myrrinous, that which
1 shall now pronounce is by Stesichorus, son of Euphemus, of Himera.t
then ie how it must run:
7 MAFaleis the ial’ dat wen lovers at hand favour ought rather 1
be accorded to one who does not love, on the ground that the former
is mad, and the latter sound of mind. That would be ight ifit were an
invariable truth that madaess is an evil: but in reality, the greatest
blessings come by way of madness, indeed of madness that is heaven
sent. Te-was when they were mad that the prophetess at Delphi and
the priestesses at Dodona achieved so much for which both states and
individuals in Greece are thankful: when sane they did lite or nothing.
‘As for the Sibyl and others who by the power of inspired prophecy
have so often foretold the future to so many, and guided them aright,
need not duvell on what is obvious to everyone. Ye it is in place tO
appeal tothe fact thae madness was accounted no shame nor disgrace
by the men of old who gave things their names: otherwise they would
«-Thonpon na etd apc Heme fori repr al
oonneeat ge ase ae ater el wl
ser nas man Deb a oe a pe
oe ieee fors wai i
Peake
TYPES OF DIVINE MADNESS 57
nothave connected that greatest of arts, whereby the futures discerned,
‘with this very word ‘madness’, and named it accordingly. No, it was
because they held madness to be a valuable gift, when due to divine