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393 Presentation Final
393 Presentation Final
393 Presentation Final
V. GILL
Were
gonna
sue yo
u!!
Arshika Chandranath
Jessica Fortier
BUS 393 | Commercial Law
AGENDA
BRIEF OVERVIEW
Summary of Events (TIMEline)
Original case and judgment
Appeal case
Appellants arguments
Judges Decision
Our opinion
Discussion
Appeal case
Appellant: Avtar Gill
Respondent: Royal bank of canada
Brief overview
Jaginder Singh Gill
Customer)of)RBC)branch)near)
Mission))
He)was)a)successful)owner)of)a)berry)
farm))
No)formal)schooling)in)English))
Avtar Gill
Son)of)Jaginder))
Sophis@cated)business)man))
Worked)as)a)loan)interviewer)for)a)
credit)union))
Managed)his)fathers)berry)farm))
Procient)in)English))
RBC)originally)was)suing)Gill)for)defaul@ng)on)a)guarantee)
RBC)won)the)original)case,)Gill)appealed)it))
Summary of events
February,)1981)
Sept.)23,)1982)
Avtar)sought)to)
borrow)$87,000)
from)RBC))
April)15,)1981)
)Avtar)and)his)wife)
signed)a)promissory)
note)and)executed)
a)mortgage)against)
the)property))
RBC))made)formal)
demand)for)
payment)from)Avtar)
and)Jaginder)
April)15,)1981)
Jaginder)
accompanied)
Avtar)to)the)bank)
and)signed)the)
guarantee)
June)2,)1984)
Jaginder)passed)
away)
Summary of events
January)15,)1988)
Dec.)4,)1984)
Appeal)case)took)
place)
RBC)launched)a)pe@@on)
against)Avtar)
October)9,)1986)
Original)caseQQ)
Royal)Bank)of)
Canada)v.)Gill)
ORIGINAL CASE
ROYAL BANK OF CANADA
v. GILL
October 9th, 1986
Plaintiff
RBC
Defendant
Avtar GIll
Original case
Judges Decision :
allow the claim against the estate. Gill found responsible.
Judges reasoning:
There)was)no)misrepresentaAon)
on)behalf)of)the)bank))
Avtar)and)Jaginder)acted)carelessly))
Non)est)factum)defence)was)invalid))
I#do#not#consider#that#
the#father#acted#
reasonably#in#signing#
[the]#document"
Appeal CASE
ROYAL BANK OF CANADA
v. GILL
January 15th, 1988
appellant
Avtar Gill
Respondent
RBC
Appellants arguments
Judge erred in law in:
1.
2.
3.
Judge:
There was abundant evidence of
carelessness on the part of the
appellants.
Judges reasoning:
Jaginder)and)Avtar)did)not)act)as)a)reasonable)person)would)have.)
Jaginder)was)careless)in)failing)to)ask)for)an)explana@on)of)the)document.)
Avtars)experience)as)a)loan)interviewer)for)a)credit)union)suggests)he)is)a)
reasonable)expert,)thus,)should)have)known)beTer.))
Judge:
Or#requested#by#me,#yeah.##
GILL :
Or#requested#by#you?#
Q:
##and#she#said,#your#dad#has#to#sign#it.#I#said,#Here,#sign#it,#and#
we#were#out#of#the#bank#in#less#than#ve#minutes.#No#copies#of#
any#forms#were#given#to#my#dad#at#that#Bme#or#to#myself.#
GILL :
1.
2.
The)signer)of)the)agreement)was)not)careless)in)signing.)
)
)
A)radical)dierence)between)the)document)which)was)signed)and)
what)the)signer)thought)he)was)signing.))
Judge:
Defence is Not available
#I#do#not#think#the#evidence#supports#the#inference#that#the#father#thought#
he#was#signing#something#fundamentally#dierent#from#a#guarantee.#
Jaginder))knew)that)it)was)a)document)of)business)
signicance)for)the)benet)of)his)son.)
)
Avtar)told)him)he)had)to)sign.)
)
Jaginder)willingly)accompanied)Avtar)to)the)bank.)
Judges decision
1. We were not careless in executing the guarantee.
The bank was careless in the execution of the
2. guarantee.
3. Non Est Factum Defence is available.
judge 1:
)I)think)the)[original])judge)was)right)and)I)would)dismiss)the)appeal.)
Judge 2:
I)agree.)
Judge 3:
I)agree.)
Our opinion
We)agreed)with)both)the)original)judgment)and)the)appeal)
judgment.)
)
Jaginder)and)Avtar)were)careless.)
)
Bank)was)not)careless.)
)
Non)est)factum)defence)does)not)hold)up.)
)
Discussion questions
Q:
Q:
How can banks prevent this type of issue when dealing with
non-English speaking customers?
Q:
Given the facts in the case, who do you think is more at fault:
Avtar or jaginder?