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Mony men ore iust one skill owoy from hoving the kind of interoctions with
women thot they wont. Jocob wos on exomple of this. Thirty-four yeors
old,

successfi.rl

in his business, fit ond o shor;c dresser, he didn't understrcnd

why he wosn't more


some

successful with women. He noticed thot his

of whom were sloppier, fotter ond

friends-

less finonciolly successful-

seemed to be oble trc get women, but somehow he couldn't. He could tolk

tc women but olwoys ended up "iust friends." h wos discouroging.

Jocob thought he wqs miles ond miles owoy from his gool of being successful with women; in focf, he wosn'l. He hod iust obout every skill he

needed to succeed with women ond o lot more, but he didn't know how

to tolk to women so they felt he wos "romontic moteriol." Thot wos the
one skill he wos missing. Once we tought him the bosic Flirting Moves

ond the skills of tolking to women, his level of success with them rose
dromoiicolly.

You moy hove

wondered

if

o similor problem. Secretly, like Jocob, you moy hove

there wos something wrong with you. You moy hove

thought thot there's something obout you thot you couldn't see but thot
women could which drove them owoy. Or, like Jocob, you moy feor thot
you hove some bosic flow *rot continuolly

sets

you up lo be "iust friends"

wilh women.

The good news is thot nothing could be further from the hulh. Sure,

you've got problems. Eveqybody does. But os you've probobly seen,

plcnty of men with more problems thon you succeed with women. The

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con creote romontic connections

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you'll leorn obout whot it tokes to initiote interqctions with

women. You'll leorn obout the imporlonce of "interrupting" women ond

being oble to redirect their ottenlion toword you. Mosl men foil ot this
When you're one skill owoy from being o good seducer,you're like o cor

with one flot tire. A cor with one flot tire drives os though it hos something seriously wrong with it. lt's impossible to control, the ride is rough,
ond chonces ore you'll never gel where you wont to go in it. Driving it,

you'd be likely to conclude thot it hos serious, serious problems.

becouse

fiey don't know whot lo do once they hove o womon's otten-

tion; don't worry, we'll cover thot, too. You'll olso leorn qbout opportunities ond the surprising lruth thot not toking opportunilies with women

con noturolly leod to toking them, if you do it our woy. You'll leorn obout
curiosity ond how you con top inlo your noturol curiosity with o womqn
to eosily creote slress-free conversotions in which you both experience o

Once you reolize thot the problem is o flot tire, though, you see thot iust

reql connection with eqch other.

becouse the problem wos noticeoble didn't necessorily meon thot it wos

fotol. By fixing the


how to do

it-you

flot-o

simple l0-minute procedure once you know

tronsform the entire cor ond con gel where you wont

to go eosily.

ln Chopbr

2,you'll leorn obout the Hi Progrom, which

is the perfoct ploce

to sicrt building your skills in tolking to women. You'll olso leorn woys

increose your sense of vitolity ond excitement with women, including


simple woys to moke the sound of your voice something

When Jocob leorned thot the flot tire in his doting system wos his inobility to tolk

trc

women improved instontly. He hod the missing piece ond wos qble to
seduce women.

women

enioy heoring.

However, only knowing whot to soy to women is not enough. You must

olso understond the "inner gome" of tolking to women, or you won't be


oble to get yourself to toke oction with them. ln Chopter 3, you'll leorn

how
Your problems, loo, moy not be os big os you thought.

A simple

set of

new skills moy moke oll the difference. lf you've ever leorned ony skill
then you con leorn how to tolk to women; you've simply never been
tought how before. l/s like leorning ony new procedure. Once you mos-

fie

fiol

women in o woy thot mode them think romontic thoughts

obout him, he wos oble to correcl the problem ond his interoctions with

ter

irc

bosics, the rest seems eosy. This book will teoch you whot you

need to know

trc

overcome your tendencies toword being defensive with women

ond opologizing for your inlerest in them, os well os woys of communi-

coting with women thot don't require worrying or strotegizing. ln


Chopter

4, yov'll

enhonce your grosp

of the inner gome of tolking to

women by leorning once ond for oll how to overcome the feor of being

rciected by women. You'll olso leorn how

to hondle ponic oround

womon so you con use the skills in this book, even if you gel nervous.

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ln Chopter 5, you'll leorn how lo leveroge the hidden seduciive power

whol she's possionote obout. Deepening ollows q womon to open up to

of the simple queslion "Whofs the story behind thot?" You'll olso leorn

you right owoy in o woy she moy nol open up to mony people in her

the three time-fromes of on interoction with o womon so you'll olwoys

life. You'll leorn how to use Deepening to odmire o womon's possions,

know how much you need to risk with o womon ol ony given momenl.

which mony other people moy never see, lhus creoting o deep connection between you. You'll reod numerous octuol tronscripts of us hoving

ln Chopter 6, you'll leorn obout the Romontic Moves thot ore o criticol

Deepening Conversolions with reol women olongside our comments on

port of tolking seduclively wilh women. You'll leorn obout looking inio o

these exomples, so you con leorn how to opply this skill in your own li[e.

womon's eyes "too long," checking out her body so she feels complimented, winking

ot her ond more. You'll leorn how o mqn who does

ln Chopters

l0 ond 't I , you'll ieorn obout

osking Romontic Questions

ond conducting Romontic Conversotions. You'll leorn how to

osk

womon, ond you'll leorn why o womon lends to put o mon who mokes

Romontic Questions in woys thot don't seem corny or intrusive but

$ol

these Romontic Moves olmost never ends

up "iust friends" with

these moves into the potentiol lover cotegory

in her mind. You'll olso

move lhe conversolion in

romontic direction. You'll reod numerous

leorn the Goodbye lntroduction, which is o simple, powerful, romontic

octuol tronscripts of us osking Romonlic Questions ond conducting

ond incredibly low-risk woy lo infoduce yourself to beoutiful women.

Romonlic Conversolions. Our comments on these exomples will help you

leorn to proctice these skills when you flirt ond go on dotes.

ln Chopter 7, yov'll leorn the specifics of Situotionol Fli*ing. You moy


hove noticed lhot men who ore successfi.rlwith women ore often good ot

ln Choptrer 12, you'll leorn obout toking tolking further: moving from o

ioking oround with women. They ore oble to kid with women obout dif-

flirting conversolion to getting o womon's phone number ond emoil

brenl ospects of he situotions thot they find themselves in or obout obiects

oddress to setting up o dote. You'll olso leorn importont secrets obout

in the immedioie environment. This is Situotionol Fli*ing. ln Choflrer 7,

going for the first

kiss.

you'll leorn the specific sleps of ioking oround with women ond wcys of

will hove on entire tool-

creoting romonlic, flirutious running iokes. You'll see specific exomples of

By the time you're through with this book, you

Situotionol Flirting ond leorn how tc do it yourself with the women you

box for tolking lo women in romonlic, flirtotious ond fun woys. These

encounler.

skills ore specific ond they ore leqrnqble. With procfice, you will be oble

use them successfully.

ln Chopters 8 ond 9, you'll leorn how to use the incredibly powerful


romonlic conversotion tool colled Deepening. Deepening is o converso-

tionol mode thot ollows you to get into o womqn's world ond find out

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Extroverted communicoicrs odore being the center

of ottention.

They

oren'l necessorily scored to tolk to women, but they often don'l know whot
trc soy. They

There ore two types of communicotors. You must figure out which type

often think thot the woy trc seduce o womon is trc turn up the

volume of their personolity. This is whot the introverted communicotor

of communicotor you ore, becouse eoch type must proctice ond use the

needs trc

skills in this book differently.

do-but for the extroverted

communicoicr; il's o reol mistrrke.

lf you're on exlroverled communicolor, ky listening more, tolking more


solty ond chilling out. Don't try so hord. ln short, the exlroverted com-

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worry obout toning himself down.

Most of our studenls, ond most of lhe men who ore ottrocled lo our work,

ore inlroverled communicotors. These ore men who cotegorize themselves os shy. They hove

As you reod this book, keep in mind which type of communicotor you

o hord time tolking with women ond ore more

likely to end up o wollflower thon the

lih of the porty. These

ore. This will influence your decisions obout how oggressively you

men often

use

this moteriol.

hove no clue qbout whot to soy lo women ond need lo slort very slowly, toking one smoll slep ot o lime ond building from there.

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The primoqy chollenge for the introverled communicotor is leorning to


express himself. He needs

percenl. He needs

lo intensify ond escolote his signols by 500

ic focus on tolking more loudly, moking more

We ore olso the quthors of the book How lo Succeed wilh Women.Thql

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book provides o slep-by-step opprooch to finding, meeting, doting ond

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The extroverted communicotor tends to be enthusiostic, silly ond fun.


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tolk to women, but if you're willing to slort ot the beginning ond do the

work involved, over time you'll succeed. Unfodunotel, mony of us think


thot

fie

best woy to

go obout leorning is to skip the first slep, or even

the first few steps, ond to go directly lo "lhe good stuff." Building o firm

foundotion in the first few simple steps of tolking to women will help dromoiicolly once you stort opplying those steps to the more complex skills
we will present loter in this book.

A bod seducer-let's coll him Bob-hos trouble becouse he hosn't mqstered the bosics. lf you ore like Bob, you wont to ovoid soying hi to
women, ond you only wont to osk the one fool-proof (ond mythicol)
seduction question thot

will moke ony womon strip ond hove sex with

you in 30 seconds or less. lf you ore like Bob, you expect to overcome
25 yeors of shyness ond foilure with women ofter reoding five poges of
this book.

We wish we could teoch you thot one question thot would get ony
womon to foll in love wifh you ond hove sex with you in 30 seconds or
less. We wish we could help you overcome feor ond shyness oher reod-

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ing five poges of this book*butwe con'i. We con, however, teoch you

The some goes for "Just go tolk to her." We've oll been given this lome

o series of progressive steps you con use to leorn to tolk

women. We

odvice, but most of us hove no clue whot fo tolk to o womqn obout. The

con teoch you questions, opprooches ond conversotionol modes thot will

o$er doy, o shockingly beoutiful young womon we know wos wonder-

help you be seducilve-but you must be willing to stort ot the beginning.

ing oloud to us why our books, oudio courses ond other moteriol ore

Once ogoin: lf you wont fic become good ot tolking ic women*thot is, if

necessory ot oll.

you wont to leorn how

trc

trc

tolk to women seductively-you hwe trc stort ot

'All you hove to do is go up to people ond tolk ond

iust

be yourself," she told us. "lt olwoys works for me!" As she soid this, her

full breosts rose ond fellwith eoch breoth ond her beoutiful blonde hoir

the beginning.

swoyed os she moved her heod.


Seducing women by tolking to them is

o process. The first step of thot

process is onswering the question "How do you get thot initiol conloct

We olso know o mon who is o model in o lorge city. When we go out

with o womon?" Aftrer we hove onswered thot question, we will go on to

with him, we're olwoys omozed*hol women opprooch him ond give

leorn woys of tolking with her, woys of flirting with her ond woys of con-

him their phone numbers. He olso likes to tell us his "secrel": "Just be

strucling ond conducling romonlic, seductive conversotions. Get

yourself qnd tolk

trc

women! lt's reolly not o big deql!"

reody-this plone's obout to toke off.


Obviously, both these people moke most of us wont to vomit with roge.
You don't hove to work hord ot leorning how to tolk to the opposile sex

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lrite, useless odvice like "Just be yourselP' or "Just go tolk to

her!" This kind of odvice is worse thon useless becouse it offers nothing

cific skills to leorn, which ore much more effective thon "Just be yourselP'

ond "Just go tolk lo her."

specific to do yet leoves you feeling bod obout yourself for not following

it. Sure, being yourself is o good thing, but how should you do thot with

Our work hos olwoys been obout breoking complex sociql interoctions

women? More specificolly, which port of yourself should you be? We oll

infic teochoble steps so lhose who employ our methods con succeed. Our

weor mony hots in our lives. When you opprooch o womon, should you

ctudents hove discovered

be the self you ore ot work? The self you ore ot church? The self you ore

when they've leorned lo use this moteriol. We'll stort smoll, so thot no

ot o strip club? We oll need lo cultivote the romontic ports of ourselves-

mqller how shy you hove been, no motler how shut down you've been,

the ports thot ore noturolly fun ond seducfive, but iusl soying you should

no motter how mony problems you've hod with women, you will be oble

do so is nol enough. lf iust being yourself hod worked, you wouldn't be

b bke

reoding this book. "Just be yourselP' is pretty worthless odvica.

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We remember how hord it wos to tolk to women ond how much couroge

When we soy thot you should be selFexpressed, this olso meons thot you

it took for us to lronsform our skills ond our obilities. We remember how

must find your own woy with the moteriol in this book. None of our

we wished we hod help in figuring out whqt to do, ond we remember

books or oudio courses ore designed to be o set of rules lo box you in.

how we hod to stort with very smoll steps before we could move on to

We oll hove different opprooches with this moleriol-even we, Ron Louis

longer conversotions. We hod to figure out tolking to women firough

ond Dovid Copelond, hove very different opprooches from one onoth-

triol ond error. At first we constontly foiled. We were eoch os uncom-

er. We ogree on the fundomentols bui we opprooch them differently.

fortoble ond owkword when tolking to women os ony guy we've ever
met. We foiled more often thon you've foiled, ond we mode fools out of

The moin commonolity omong oll effective seducers is thot eoch

time-but we stuck with it ond tronsformed our dot-

embroces his unique opprooch ond style. The best woy for you to com-

ing lives. We mention this not to tool our own horns but to give you

municote with women is to find your unique style. Otherwise you'll seem

hope. No motler where you ore in your life, no motler how little experi-

foke qnd feel qwkwqrd when tolking lo women.

ourselves time ofter

ence you hove with women, there is hope. You con leorn to seduce

o second ond look ol the opposite of selFexpression:

women. You con leorn how to tolk to women. And you con hove the suc-

l-e/s digress for

cess you wonl.

withholding, feeling bottled up ond unoble to tolk to women. We've

bund thot men ore most upset, frustroted ond ploin ol' nuts when they
oren't self-expressed. Not getting loid doesn't drive guys nuts; o guy con

go months without getting loid. Whot drives men nuts is nol interocting

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lhc gome. Whot drives men nuls is hoving the desire to moke conlocl

You con'l be on effective seducer unless you feel self-expressed oround

women.

A mon who is self-expressed hos chorocter. By thot we

wilh women ond not doing onything obout it.

meon

thot he's on individuolwho follows his own poth. He feels confideni mok-

ing decisions obout where he wonts to toke his life. He embroces fie

Avoiding the risks of life drives men crozy-not foiling or being reiect-

woys in which he is similor to os well os ihe woys in which he is differ-

rd, When you're engoged in life, toking

enl from others. He is oble to be himself without being overly concerned

womon, women will find you ottroclive. Whot foils every time, however,

obod how women will respond-ond he's not tqying to control or fix

lr rioying on the sidelines of life feeling bottled up ond depressed.

women. He is outhentic ond honest. He doesn'l squelch himself, suppress


himself or hide from life.

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ln o certoin sense/ you ore interrupting women on o deeper ond deeper level with every stoge of o seduclion. You inlerrupt her when you first

Your first tosk on the poth to becoming o seducer is lo underslond ond

soy hi to her. You inlerrupt her on increosingly deeper levels when you

occepl thot you, the mon, ore going to hove to interrupt women in order

tolk for the first lime, when you osk for her number ond emoil oddress,

to get their ottention ond stort o conversolion.

when you hove Romontic Conversotions, when you osk her for ond conduct the first dote, when you go for the first kiss ond so on. You ore

Le/s exomine the word "intrerruption." h's o horsh word. Most of us osso-

olwoys interrupting her ond initioting something deeper. The burden of

ciole interrupting people with being rude, obnoxious or disrespectful.

initioting ond interrupting women will be on your shoulders until you

For mony of us, this is especiolly true regording interrupting women.

die. The tools in this book will help you corry thot lood. ln foct, they con

When we soy interruplion, we don't meqn to imply being rude or

turn this burden into o boon for you

obnoxious ot oll. We use the word inlerruption, though, becouse it com-

oreo of your life.

not iusl with women but with every

municoles o horsh truth obout tolking to women: when you first interoct

with o womon, you will probobly hove lo do something specific to direct


her otlenlion owoy from whotever else is going on in her life ond toword

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you. You ore going to hove to toke some oclion-though os you will see
it doesn't hove to be o big oction-to get her ottention. There's forcefulness oboul the

word interruption thot describes the energy you will need

Sometimes o mon

will osk us, '!Vhy should I risk reiection? lsn'l this the

oge of equolity? Why don't women initiote with me, ond interrupt me?"

to do this.

You know, it/s funny-women tolk

o lot obout how men don't feel

As you hove no doubt noticed, women ore usuolly not thinking obout

enough. They comploin thoi men oren't more sensilive ond bemoon how

you. They ore off in their own world, on their own vector, in their own

oll thot "mole privilege" ond "mole power" hove mode men shut down

flow. Hot women ore not likely to come up to you ond soy, "Hey, yov

emotionolly. Well, you know the truth os well os we do. Men's egos

look like on interesting guy. lwould love to hove o conversolion with you

oren'l o mess becouse men ore so oll-powerful or becouse men live lives

ond then seduce you." Therefore, if you ore going to interoct with

of

women, your first tosk is to get their ottention. And you get their otten-

becouse they don't hove ony tools for hondling relection, ond they hove

tion by interrupting fiem.

tc throw their ego in the sewer every lime they opprooch-ond

complete ond totol privilege qnd eose. Men's egos ore

bcing reiected

by-o

o mess

womon. So of course men oren'l going to be emo-

tionolly sensitive. Constonl reiection mokes you wont to be o little


cmotionolly sensitive, right? Whot on oslonishing surprise.

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leorn o little obout o few core concepls: the numbers gome, opporluni-

foir. Thot's why. They don't wonl to throw their egos in the sewer, ond

lies not token, ond giving ond receiving risks.

they don't hove io becouse they're women. They ore ollowed to demond

equolity os much os they wont ond still leove oll the risking of initiotion
to you (ot leost in the eorly ports of doting).

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We suggest thot you occepl thot this is the woy it is qnd thot insteod of

As you leorn to interrupt ond initiote with women, you must remember

being upset obout it, you reolize thot this octuolly gives you o certoin

rhot oll your interoctions with women bosicolly boil down lo o numbers

kind of power. lf you hove to do oll the interrupting ond initioting, you

gome. A certoin omounl of the time you will succeed; the resl of the time

gei to soy when you will opprooch o womon. You get to soy when you

you won't. The greot thing is thot if you hove enough interocfions, your

will osk her ouf you get to soy when you will fli* with her. Once you

success is oll but qssured.

stort seeing thot hoving to do oll the initioting ond hoving to toke oll the

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lfs like the insuronce solesmon who knows thot he needs to moke 75

risks gives you the power to go ofter whot you wonl, lhe fqct fhot women

don't hove to initiote with men will not bother you so much.

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Okoy, our little men's rights speech is over. We ogree thot you hove

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cold colls to get one oppointment ond thot it trckes four oppointments to
get one sole. Therefore, he knows thqt he needs to moke 300 cold colls,

give or toke, lo get one sole. He knows ifs o numbers gome ond thot oll

every right to be mod obout this stote of offoirs-but stoying mod does-

he hos to do is to continue moking those colls. Eventuolly the numbers

n't work. lt won't get you the girl. The good news is thqt when you know

willwork in his fovor ond he'll mqke o sole. With women, it might toke

how

trc

toke the proper risks with women, one step ot o time, you don't

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interruplions to get one conversotion, 10 conversotions to gel one

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hove to shut down your emotions ond become on unfeeling ierk in order

phone number qnd

lo initiqte with women. And once you know how to do it, you'll be qble

becouse eqch "foiled" interoction brings you closer trc success.

numbers to get one dote. This is good to know

to go ofter the women you wont with o lot more freedom thon most
women feel they hove lo go ofter the men they desire.

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wilh Women, we wrote time ond ogoin fiot doting

ir o numbers gqme. We're soying it ogoin now. l/s empowering to know


Your obility to initiote with ond interrupt women is criticol. Everything in

thot doting is o numbers gome becouse knowing thot will help keep you

this book is built on thot skill. Successful seducers understond the stoges

going ficword your eventuol success. Every time on interruption or initi-

of seduction ond ore willing lo stort ot the beginning. Before we give you

otion with o womon doesn't work, remind yourself thot

specific woys to stort inlerrupting women, it

will be helpful for you to

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The key difference between successful seducers ond unsuccessful ones is

o numbers gome ond

ties but don'l yet hqve the obility to trrke them. lf you ollow yourself to let

keep going no

thot be okoy, in time you simply find yourself storting to toke those oppor-

motler whot. Unsuccessful seducers whine to their friends, hide in their

tunities thot life presents to you. Howeve4 if you beot yourself up for not

bedrooms or feel upset ond give up opprooching women entirely. Troin

trcking opportunities, this sequence is disrupted. Beoting yourself up for not

yourself to see thqt opprooching women is o numbers gome.

toking opporlunities iust mokes it horder to see ond trcke them in the future.

thot the successful ones know il's

People who troin group focilitotors know thot this is true. At first, students

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moy hwe no ideo ot oll obout how to leod o certoin type of process in

o group; they simply wotch in owe qs other people leod. ln time, they
Men olten feel bod obout themselves when they see on opportunity to

stort to understond how to leod but they don't quite know the process

opprooch or tolk to o womon ond they don't toke it. They don't toke the

well enough to step oul ond octuolly leod; they wotch from the sidelines,

opportunity becouse they ore scored or upset or becouse they simply

full of good ideos obout how they would leod o process but not quite

don't know whot to soy. This leods to missed opportunities ond plenty of

reody to toke chorge themselves. lf they ollow this to hoppen without

good old-foshioned self-criticism. "l wos such on idiot not to tolk to her,"

beoting up on themselves, in time they simply nolice thot they ore step-

hese guys will soy tc themselves. 'Whot o moron I om. I con't believe how

ping out ond leoding*ond nothing speciol needs to hoppen for thot to

stupid I wos not to tolk to her. lt wos o perfe'ct opportunity. She wos so hot.

occur. lf they beot lhemselves up, however, they stoll the entire leorning

l'll probobly never gel on opportunity like thot ogoin, ond I blew itl"

process ond moke it horder to toke oction when the time comes.

There ore lots of times in life when beoting up on yourself to get your-

Once you breok the link between seeing on opportunity ond feeling bod

o good ideo. There ore lots of times when it

obout not toking it, you cqn breok the hold thot this cycle hos over you.

works. Unbrtunotely, this is not one of those times. When you don't toke

Wc suggest thot you let yourself go through o phose of purposely not

on opportunity with o womon ond then punish yourself for not toking it,

toking opportunities with women. Just observe them ond let yourself feel

you lusl ottoch o lot of poin to the whole ideo of toking opportunities to

good obout yourself even when you oren't toking them. Soy lo yourself,

tolk to women. This mokes you less likely to tolk to o womon the next

'l'm oble to see opportunifies, ond

time on opporfunify comes up/ nol more.

opporfunities loter." ln time, your nervous

self to behove better is

thot/s

on importont step. l'll toke

systrem

will be so used to spot-

llng opportunities thot it will be much eosier to trrke them.


There's o sequence in the woy most men treot opportunities with women.
First, you don'l see opporfunities ot oll. h seems like there ore no women

Sroing opportunities to interruptwomen is o little like slowing down reol-

on his plonet for you

lly, Wc hod o studenl who wos on experi in the field of stock troding.

trc interoct

with. Second, you stort to see opporfuni-

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He wos oble to see ond toke odvontoge of finonciol opportunities thot

with. They ore ofroid thot if they toke o risk, the womon will be upset,

just seemed to flosh by too quickly for us to see or understond whot wos

offended or emotionolly domoged in some woy.

hoppening. He hod o completely different relotionship with morkets thon

we did. To us, the stock morkels ore iust one big mess; we con't

see

For ihese men, the opporent onswer to both of these problems

is

opportunities in them. Becouse of his yeors of experience wotching the

decreosing risk ond increosing control over their interoctions with

morkel, this guy wos oble to slow things down. He told us thot he did

women. They stort looking for the foolproof, olwoys-completely-in-con-

this by not beoting himself up when he missed opportunities. This is whot

trol, no-risk system for seducing women. Like o bod solesmon who seeks

you must do too.

thot "mogic close" thot will force o customer to buy, buy,buy, o guy who

con't risk with women will look for psychologicol tools thot con force o
womon to be ottrocted to him. He'll buy pig-pheromone colognes, hop-

0rurils

ing the scent will owoken o womon's inner vixen. He'll ploy "subliminol

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seduclion" oudiotopes for her, hoping it will somehow creote chemistqy

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hwe

between them.

Or he'll tqy to leorn hypnosis, hoping to use it to bom-

deep, romontic ond seductive conversotions with women. But lc wield these

boozle o womon into toking her ponts off. He does oll this in on ottempt

tools effectMely you musl underslrcnd the noture of risking with women.

ic eliminote oll risk with o womon ond to estoblish in its ploce complete
conhol over qll of his interoctions with her.

Doing ony of the things we tolk obout in this book will require toking

oll risk with o

some risk. Most men ore exlremely overse to risking with women; they

There ore severol problems with this. First, eliminoting

live their lives trying to ovoid it. Mony men who oren'l successful with

womon ond estoblishing complete control over your interoctions with her

women ore committed to eliminqting risk with women; tho/s their unsuc-

doesn't work. ln foct, il's the opposite of whot works with women. Think

cessful strotegy for.success.

obout how you feel when you're wilh someone who's committed to complebly controlling your interoction with him ond the outcome of thot inter-

Men ore obsessed with not risking with women moinly for two reosons.

oction: you con't get owoy fost enough. Well, thof's exoctly how women

Firsl, they don't wont to be hurt by o risk gone wrong. lt totolly sucks to

belwih o mon who's

toke some big risk with o \ /omon only to be shot down in one of the

oction ond forcing o cerloin outcome. (solesmen ore sometimes like this.)

olmost infinite number of woys women hove of shooting down men.

h doesn't motler how good

Second, men-especiolly shy

men-wont to eliminote risk with \/omen

becouse they ore ofroid thot they will somehow hurt the womon they risk

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committed to eliminoting risk, controlling the inter-

pre-scripted rop you come up with; i/s

Fooky for o womon to be with o guy who is trying to conhol

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Second, most men get discouroged with me$ods of seducing women in

which the monlrq seems lo be "control, iontrol, control." Men wonl to


be oble to express themselves ond creote successful, seductive interoctions

wifi

women. As one mon told us,

"lf I wonted to hide behind

'foke self,' fien I might os well go to o proslitule." lf you wont onything


deep or spontoneous with women, eliminoting qll risk ond controlling
everything is not the woy to get it.

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Mony men think thot when they toke o risk with o womon they ore some-

how toking something from her, but the iruth is this: when you toke on
oppropriofie risk with o womon you ore giving something to her. Your
risk with her creotes o spoce for her fo toke o risk bock with you, which

builds trust, sofety ond ottroclion with you. lf you don't ioke o risk with
her there's no spoce for her to risk with you, qnd she con't hove o relo-

At the some time, it olso doesn'l work to "iust do

if'-to

toke huge risks

tionship with you, even if she wonis one.

with women oll of the time. We used to know o guy whose life's philosophy wos "Go for lhe roor." This meont thot every time he sow something scoqy or risky, he hod to do it-becouse if he didn't, os he put it,
he "wosn'f reolly living his life." We think this is ridiculous, ond the trou-

ble it creoted in his life bocks us up on thot. Just becouse you con toke

o huge risk with o womon doesn't meqn thot you should.

Think of it this woy: often o guy will woit oround for o womon to risk

with him before he risks with her. He wonts her to soy hi, he wonts her
trc osk

him out, he wonts her to go for the first kiss. But why should o

womon do something you oren't willing to do? Remember, most of the


lime q womon is looking to you to set the poce ond feel for your inter-

oction. lf you toke q smoll risk with her, she will see on opening to do
Just os risking becouse you con isn'l the onswer, letting go of qll control

in your inleroctions with women is probobly o bod ideo trco. Letting go


of guiding or directing conversqlion in ony woy will oll too often gel you
onother femole "triend," ond we've qll hod quite enough of thot.

lf eliminoting risk entirely ond controlling every'hing doesn't work with


women, ond toking oll the risks you con ond letting go of oll control
doesn't work, whol does? The onswer is thot you must loke risks, but you

musl toke them

in o

sensible, oppropriote ond orderly foshion.

Surprisingly ond porodoxicolly, you octuolly provide more of o sense of

both sofety ond excitement to women when you toke intelligent ond
oppropriote risks with lhem one step ol o lime. Tho/s whot creotes both
chemistry ond trust.

lhe some wiih you. lf you toke no risks ot oll, try to keep conlrol of every-

thing ond work lo force o certoin outcome with her, she will do the some
with

you-ond itwon't

be the outcome you wont. She will be controlling

ond defensive, ond her gool will be to get owoy from you.

Ar o generol rule, women will only risk os much os you do, if thot much.
When you toke on oppropriole risk with o womon, it octuolly provides
on opening for her to be self-expressed ond hove fun with you. This

is

whot we meon when we soy thot you must provide risks for women.
Whcn you toke on oppropriote risk with o womon, you give her the
opportunity trc risk bock with you. Thot's providing

risk, ond it's the

foundotion for creoting chemistqy ond trust with women.

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When the two of you toke o smoll risk together-for instonce, you moy

lf you risk too much loo fosl, you ore trying to live in the house before it

provide o risk by winking qt her ond she moy risk smiling

little

is built, ond trouble will come if ony problems occur. At the some time,

trust is built between you. You con then build on thot trusl to provide o

if you don't risk ot oll, you never even build o foundotion for o relotion-

slightly lorger risk. For instonce, you moy provide o risk by osking her

ship, much less the four wolls ond roof. The level of risk you should toke

'Whofs the story behind lhot?" obout her neckloce, ond she moy toke

is reloted to how much of this house you hove built. lf you hove o lot of

o risk by telling you obout how she got it on o trip to Centrol Americo.

trust built up from toking mony risks together you con proceed lo some

When thot risk hos gone well, there is even more trust between you. You

bigger risks. lf you don't hove o lol of trust built up you need to toke

con then provide the next lorger risk ond she con risk bock. ln lime, o

smoller risks.

bock-o

sense of trust ond sofety develops.

lfs importont to underscore thot trust is built over lime ond thot chemistry

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of

excitement ond

ond ottroction ore not the some os trust. A mon who doesn't hove much

chemistry between you. The two of you ore constontly in the process of

hcility or experience with risk will trust o womon woy too fost. He'll trusl

being "on the edge" with eoch other, constontly reveoling o little more

hcr utterly ond completely with his entire heort the moment he experi-

of yourselves with every risk, olwoys trusting ond risking o little more

onces ony chemistry with her. Thofs

Simultoneously, this process creotes

sense

o reolly bod ideo.

eoch time. Thot process is where excitement ond chemistry come from.

o lot of oilroclion comes from. And thot is o

Wc hod one student who wos doting o women whom he wos cerloin

process you con leorn how to monoge without being conlrolling, trying

wq3 "fhe one" ofter only one dote. He wos hoving tremendous success

to eliminote risk or ottempting to force on oulcome.

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Thot process is where

her os he meosured it: she seemed to like him, it wos very exciting

ond delightful to be with her ond they were hoving omozing sex togeth-

rr, He iumped in deep, reolly opening his heort lo her in o motler of


doyr, totolly risking himself emotionolly. After oll, whot could possibly go

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Building o relotionship with o womon is o lot like building o house in which

your intimocy ond connection con live. You build thot house one brick ol o

Wrll, plenty could go wrong ond plenty did go v/rong. After o couple of

time. Every lime you fiake o risk ond she trckes one bock ond it works, you

vrtkr,

put onolher brick in the wolls of the house. After o while you've built four

qnd rtrcrted blowing off their dotes. Finolly she told him, "l like you, but

wolls of trust thot con contnin the relotionship you hwe with her.

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this "perfect womon" disoppeored. She rorely returned his colls

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devostoted, heodbroken ond even more ofroid

On the up side, most women ore incredibly ottrocted to o mon who con

of toking risks with

sey,

women thon he hod been before.

"l reolly like you, ond I wont

us to toke the time

to leorn to reolly

trust eoch olher so we con truly open up ond be intimqte. I wont to toke

things slowly ond build o connection \ /e con trust." Soying this sort of
When you meet o hot womon with whom you hove greof chemislry, yovr

thing tends to moke o womon feel reolly sofe wifi you ond desire you

tendency might be to toke big emotionol risks with her os quickly os you

oll the more. After oll, you oren't just trying to get os much sex out of

con. Thot is o big mistoke. h's insone to risk your entire heort right owoy.

her os you con, like oll those other guys. She likes this; therefore, she

fust over time. lf you risk too

wonls lo hove sex with you. A mon slowing things down ond risking with

Toke smoll risks one ot o time ond build

much too quickly you'll hove your heort sploftered oll over the povement,

her one step ot o time con be on incredible ophrodisioc to o womon.

ond you'll hove short, possionole offoirs thot end with you being heortbroken qnd olone.

Slowing down o romontic relotionship with o womon you ore oftrocted


to might suck, bul il doesn'l suck os much os I ) hoving o short offoir thot

Thot hoppens when you iump in too deep too fost, ond you do thot when

ends in heortbreok or 2) being so ofrqid of heortbreok thot you devel-

you misfoke chemistqy for truslworthiness. Just becouse you hove chem-

op o mossive feor of toking ony risks with women.

istry with o womon doesn't meon she won't floke out on you. lt doesn't
meon she won't hove emotionol problems thot will couse her to leove. lt

doesn'l meon you con counl on her. But when you hove greot chemistry

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with o womon, you're oll too likely to think thot it meons you con count
on her, ond you'll end up risking too much with

her.

Le/s look ot how to provide risks for women. Mosl nice guys do not toke

enough risks qnd they do not provide enough risks for women, so

sloily ond build trust with o womon before you give

women hove loo few opportunities to toke risks bock. How do you pro-

her your heort fully. ln other words, you must risk slowly, over time, in

vide risks lo o womon? You provide risks by toking risks. Thofs impor-

the woy we will show you. lf you ore going trc foll in love with o womon

lonl, so lefs soy it ogoin: You provide risks by toking risks.

The solution is trc go

you ore reolly ottrocted lo, you need to toke risks one slep ol o lime to
find out if you con lrust her. You need to know if she's o psycho who's

It helps t'c think of risk os o currency thot you exchonge with o womon.

go nuls ond toke off on you, breoking your heort. You con only

You put up o penny ond she puts up o penny. You put up o dollor, she

going

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find this out by risking the proper omount ot the proper tempo.

puts up o dollor. You put up tren dollors, she puts up len dollors. You're

o<chonging these quontities. The exchonge con gel bigger os you leorn

from eoch other thot it will be o foir exchonge, on exchonge you con

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Dollor R.isks. The dollqr

put up o hundred dollors. But if she puts up o penny bock, you know

risks ore lorger, but if the penny risks went

well, why not move on? Complimenting o womon is o dollor risk, os

is

you con tqke the risk to put up o nickel. lf she gives you o nickel bock,

osking o question we'll teoch you, 'lVho/s the story behind rhot?" The

you con then put up o dime.

Goodbye lntroduclion, which you'll leorn,

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o dollor risk, os is Situotionol

Flirting, Deepening ond osking Romontic Questions. These risks oll proLet's give some specific exomples now of the kinds

ot different levels: penny

of risks you con toke

risks, dollor risks ond

$10 dollor

vide her with the opportunity to risk more by shoring more obout herself

risks.

with you. So she storts to risk liking you, which meons she could get hurt.

l"Greet," we heor you soying-"now lolking wilh women is like bonk-

These risks ore whot generote the excilement in

o relotionship.

ing ond investing." Who would've known?)


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Oollqr R.isks. Asking for her

number ond emqil oddress, setting

lo women is like. Successful


finonciol risks; most of fie time they

dote, touching her, going for the first kiss ond being even more sexuol

leorn how fo do thqt by toking smoll risks ond moving up to lorger ones

ore oll bigger risks. These risks ond oll the risks thot leod up lo her shor-

os they gei better ot it. As o resuh, they get better returns thon do peo-

ing her life with you, even if only for o little while. She slorts to risk thot

ple who never invest their money, who never firke ony risks with it ond

you might chonge her life in woys she did not plon on.

Bizorrely, though, thot is whot tolking


investors leorn

lo toke intelligent

up o dote, showing up for the dole, doing somelhing together on the

who leove it in the bonk eorning interest ot three percent or less. By


leorning obout intelligent risk, successful inveslors ore oble to leveroge

This is on exciting process for both of you. And with eoch new risk you

lheir ossets, toking the risks thot deliver the best returns.

evoluote how it went before toking the next one. lf o smoll risk did not
pon oul, don't go on to toke o bigger risk. lnsteod, you might wonl to

Penny Risks.

You con think of the first risks you toke with o

the interruptions thol ollowyou to speokwith

her-os penny

womon-

toke o smoller risk ond see if thot works. This is oll o motter of risking

risks. Soying

step by step.

hi is o penny risk. So is moking eye contocl, winking ot her, smiling ot


her, checking out her body ond the other Flirting Moves. Eoch one of

lfs importont for you to reolize the risks you provide when deoling with

o risk with o womon ond gives her the oppor-

women. Eoch risk offers o spoce for mogic to hoppen between the two

tunity to risk bock with you by being responsive in some woy. lf she does

of you, ond it's o gift thot you os o mon provide. You're not perpetroF

respond with o risk of her own, you ore in business ond con move on lo

ing evil or hurting someone else; you're providing thot excitement thot

the dollor risks.

women need so much.

these smoll octions tokes

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Everything we will teoch you in this book is to some degree

you slop being in conhol of the interocfion. When you osk o womon
questions obout herself, suddenly you're nol in control of whot she might

o risk you

soy. As we've soid, most guys come to us wonting

will hove lo toke with women. By knowing thot ond by being oble to tqke

They're looking for

those risks one step ot o lime, you will hove the power to creole excite-

menl ond trust in your inleroctions with women.

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o line or rouline.

o structure they con impose on on interoction thot

will keep them in control ond get her romonticolly interested. But when

Of course, some of

you loke the risk of not knowing whot is going to hoppen, ond surren-

those risks won't work out, but we'll teoch you how to hondle reiection

der to the choos of interoctions ond conversotions with women, you're

too. ll/s oll port of leorning how to tolk to women.

more likely to connect with them ond more likely to come ocross os fun
ond ottroclive.

As you use the tools in this book, your monlro should not be "control, con-

hol, conhol." Thot will only get you intrr trouble. Your monlro should be
You con stort the process of letting out your curiosity by osking \ /omen

"risk, risk, risk." lntelligent risks, token step by step. By using these tools

questions ond simultoneously letting go of ony oufcome. Let go of trying

to risk being romontic rother thon to conhol the interoction, you will be

to get into her ponls ond getting her number (for o second) ond iust see

oble to mqnqge the orderly unfolding of o relotionship. lt moy be shortterm, il moy be long term. lt moy be deeply intimote, it moy be purely

if it feels different. We're not soying thot trying to get info her ponts is o

sexuol. But there will be o reol connection-ond you won't hove to sell

bod thing ot

oll-we're

iust soying thqt when you concentrotre on getting

into her ponts os your sole oulcome ifs very difflcult to moinloin o con-

yourself out to get it.

versotion ond therefore hord to get into her ponls.

You never know where q conversotion is going to go

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if you've got to stoy in control ond reslroin your own curiosity ond never

An importont ospect of self-expression is curiosity.

osk o queslion you don't olreody know the onswer tc you'll never be suc-

h's similor to enthusi-

osm: you've goi lo use it or lose it. Once you've repressed your curiosi-

cessful. Most men lusl give up becouse not knowing where on interoc-

ty long enough, it tokes time to gel it bock.

tion is going is iust too scory.


Another odvontoge of leorning to be curious is thot i/s not the leost bit

Mony of us were tought os children not lo osk questions, to ovoid being

monipulotive or scom-oriented. When you toke risks with women ond

loo curious. We qll know the expression "curiosity killed the cot." Asking

they risk with you, reol intimocy con develop.

questions ond being curious were often soid to couse trouble.

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conversotion with

experimenting with being curious it will become o lot eosier.

course/ you shouldn't insult women either. lf you osk o womon "How did

compliment. lnsteod, you con osk questions. Of

you get your hoir so ugly?" or "How did you get so slupid?," you oren'l

going to go onyraAere good. We include these only for comic relief.

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When you first meet o womon it usuolly mokes sense lo slort with o simple question.

We're now going tc explore how to osk women questions. This is not
rocket science. So mony men feel like they need trc know the right things
to soy to o womon. The truth is thot you don't need speciolized esoteric

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Le/s look ot the different kinds of questions you con osk. There qre ini-

Mony of our students moke the error of moking siotements rother thon

tiol questions, the first questions you osk someone. Then there ore fol-

osking questions. For exomple, o student recently told us thot he'd osked

low-up queslions, which follow up on the response to your first question.

o womon o question the other doy. Here's how he described it: 'lVe

Pretty simple so for, right? You got it. The bosic sequence is you osk o

question, she responds ond you osk onolher question.

lt

were qt o concert ond I soid to her, 'The floor sure is sticky."'Well, tho/s

s olmost like

not

hoving o reol live conversotion where you ore opening your mouth ond

o queslion, ond thot doesn't offer much of on opening for her to

respond. You need to osk questions thot evoke o response from her, not

tolking! One question leods to onother ond before you know it women

simply mqke slotemenls.

ore reveoling themselves to you. They ore risking themselves to you ond
you ore risking with them by osking questions ond reveqling yourself.

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sure like the bond," Louis ond Copelond would come to your house ond

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obout her. You must leqrn the difference. This point seems simple, bul
mony guys mess it up. You need to osk her something thot will engoge

l/s greot to compliment women, but most of our students find it intimidoF
ing

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her in o bock-ond-forth conversotion, noi spew your opinions obout life.

compliment o womon right owoy. Luckily, you don'f hove to strcrl o

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At firsl, o womon won'l be interested in you or your opinions. lnsteod,

things we qll wonder obout when we tolk to women. Don't even tqy to

she'll be inlerested in tolking obout herself. This meons thol your focus

suppress fiose thoughls. We're iust soying thot none of those questions

should be osking questions thot let her do iust thot. Rother thon tolking

will fly. Just remember thot you risk foce slops, explosive forms of vio-

oboul your fovorite color, osk her whol her fovorite color is. Rother thon

lence, sexless nights ond trouble if you moke overtly sexuol comments.

roving obout the greot new CD you iust brought, osk her whot sort of
music she likes. Rqther thon tolking obout your fovorite seoson, osk her

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breoth between questions ond listen to her response/ so q womqn won't

When you're interocting wiih o womon ond osking questions you ore

hel os if you're grilling her.

not ollowed to osk "Do you come here often?" You ore olso prohibited

moke sure you woid.bombording her with ropid-fire questions. Some

from osking obout the weolher. Those two questions ore so clichgd thot

men will keep osking o womon '1/Vhy? Why? Why?" or borroge her with

you will come ocross os o totol boneheod. The lost thing you ore for-

questions until she flips out. Tho/s onother woy trc hove her feel like she's

bidden from osking is'nVhofs your sign?" These oll sound too much like

locked in on inlerrogoiion room with you. lf you osk one question ot o time

lines ond come ocross os boring ond stupid. The good news is thot there

ond go ol o slow, reloxed poce, lhe conversotion will foel nofurol ond eosy

ore countless good, simple questions. Once you get your curiosity cir-

trc susficin.

Put

owoy the interrogotion-room spotlight ond

cuitry going, you won'l hove o problem osking them.

When some guys ore excited they feel pumped up. While being ener-

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questions too quickly ond nol ollow women enough time to respond. Just
remember to slow down, give her time to respond, odd

You might find yourself wondering, "Gee, ore lhose breost implonts?

o few oppre-

ciotive comments ond you'll be fine.

How do they stond up so well?" Thofs obviously not o question you're

going to wont to osk. We probobly don'l hove to tell you this, but we
wonled to double- ond quodruple-check.

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We're not suggesting thot you ovoid thinking obout sex or ovoid won-

"Do you like ort?" 'Whot sorts of orl do you like?" Con you tell rhe dif-

dering obout q womon's breqsts or whot she's like in bed. Those ore

brence between fiose two questions?

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DAVID: So Ron, do you like ort?


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This moy come os o shock lo you, bul our experience shows thot mony

women ore nol the slightest bit receptive lo ony'hing we soy. lfs imporYes.

tont therefore to remember thot when o womon is meon to you or unreThot cleorly doesn't build much of o conversoiion. Le/s try it ogoin.

sponsive, i/s not

o personol ottock on you. We oll hove to deol with

unfriendly women ot one poinl or onother.

DAVID: Ron, whot kind of ort do you like?


Remember,

RON: l'm o big Jockson Pollock fon. I like his huge obstroct

ifs not your foult she wos unfriendly, ond you did nothing

wrong by opprooching her. When o womon is unfriendly, the best thing


to do is lo move on to the next one. lfls pointless to woste your time ond

pointings.

DAVID: Whot else do you like obout his work?

RON: I love seeing fhe movies of him sploshing huge cons of point
onto convoses. l'm olso interested in how he lived his life.

energy tolking lo women who qre unreceplive. ln foct, it con domoge

your self-esteem to hohg oround women who treot you like crop. Next
time o womon is meon to you, remind yourself thol there ore other
women out there who'd be hoppy to tolk to you ond would oppreciote

your initioting with them-ond then move on.

DAVID: So hove you seen his work in person?

RON: Yes, l've been lo severol exhibits of his work in New York.

A yes-or-no question iust doesn't cut it.


For inslonce, "Do you like the bond?" is o problem. A woy to toke thot

So you see where this con go.

question out of the yes-or-no reolm is to osk

'lVhot do you like obout

the bond?" or "How to do you like the bond?" Stort poying otlention fic

the questions you osk women. Moke sure you ovoid putting them in o

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sfudents get upset when they musler lhe couroge to osk o womon o ques-

tion ond then, rother thon onswering their question, the womon
responds by tolking obout o wholly different topic. Remember, when you

form thot will hqve lhem onswer yes or no.

osk o womon o question ond she responds with ony commenl ot oll, it's

good news. Your focus should be on getting o conversotion going.

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For exomple. imogine you're osking to

o womon in the liquor store

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obout wine ond she storts lolking obout o movie she iust sow. Don't soy,

"Hey, I osked you oboul wine-iusl onswer the question, lody!"

The

SITUATION: You're ot o concert, listening to the music ond stonding

point is thol you wont lo be engoging with her, ond it reolly doesn'l mot-

nexi to on ottroctive womon. Whot do you do? Here's the sequence we

ter whot you tolk qbout. The foct thot you ore octuolly hoving on inter-

recommend you stort employing when tolking lo women:

oction with her is good news. Hoving her open her mouth ond tolk to

you is os good os it will get ot first.

First, breothe deep into your body. Mony men breofi shollowly, ond
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high in their chests-this reolly doesn't leove you feeling powerful-for


lhot, you need to breothe more deeply. We coll this "breofiing into your

bolls." When we soy this, we meon toke o deep breoth, ond imogine
thot feeling going oll the woy down to the core of your body, oll the woy

For us, curiosity ofien shows up os o smoll flicker in our minds thof we must

down into your bolls. lt moy sound silly, but ifs been our observotion thot

poy close ottention trc. lf you don't poy ottention when you feel curious

it mokes o big difference.

obout something, your infieresl fodes. At this strrge of the gome you're
retroining yourself ond creoting new hqbits

trc let

your curiosity out. At first,

Second, osk yourself whot you could be curious obout with this womon.

occessing your curiosity might bel owhvord ond clumsy, but itwill gel eos-

ier over time.

Third, listen lo the response you gel.

Asking o queslion of o womon ond listening to your curiosity doesn'l


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need to be

o big deol. lt doesn't

require you to find complicoted or

unusuol topics to explore. ln the following exomples you'll see how


we've loken incredibly mundone situotions ond creoted simple questions

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"So, whot do you think of the bond?" When she onswers, "They're

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greol," run through the sequence ogoin:

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to osk women. After reoding through these exomples ond doing some
experimentolion on your own, this will be o lot eosier for you.

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Breqthe into your bolls.


Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout in her response.
Listen to lhe onswer.

Ask your follow-up queslion.

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"Hove you seen this bond before?" She might onswer, "No, I hoven't

SITUATION: You're in line wqiting

seen them before." So you then repeot lhe sequence:

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buy something in o grocery store

ond you're stonding nexl to o womon. You wont to tqlk

her. Whot do

you do?
Breothe into your bolls.
Ask yourself whot you could be curious qbout in her response.

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Listen to the onswer.

Ask your follow-up question.

For exomple,

Breothe into your bolls.


Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout with this womon.
Lislen lo lhe onswer.

Ask your initiol question.

'lVhot do you think of lhem?" or 'The boss ploye/s got

reolly wild hoir. Whot do you think obout it?"

For exomple, you might soy, 'Thot's on interesting pin

thd you're weor-

ing. Whofs the story behind it?"


See how simple this con be? Once you reolize thot you don't hove to put

yourself on the line ond show off, tolking to women becomes o lot eqs-

She might soy, "Oh, I got this in Nepol."

ier. Whqfls importonl is for you to osk questions thot moke her impressed

with herself-qnd when you focus on osking questions thot moke her

So you go through the sequence ogoin:

impressed with herself, your life will be much eosier.

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Breofie inlo your bolls.


Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout in response to whot
she soid.

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Toke o second ond listen to the onswer.

Ask your follow-up question.

You might soy, "Nepol, how interesting. Do you like to trovel?" or


"Nepol, thofs reolly on interesling ploce. Whot were you doing there?"

From there you moy find yourself creoting o conversotion with her!

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SITUATION: You're in line woiting to buy something ond you're stond-

SITUATION: You ore in o bookstore next lo o womon reoding o book.

ing next lo o womon with o new cell phone honging on o clip from her

Go through the sequence:

purse. So whot do you do? Go through lhe sequence:

o
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.

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.
.
.

Breothe into your bolls.


Ask yourself whot you could be curious qbout with lhis womqn.
Lislen to the onswer.

Breothe into your bolls.

Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout with this womon.
Toke

o second ond listen to the onswer.

Ask your initiol question.

Ask your initiol question.


You might soy, 'Thol book looks reolly interesting. Whot do you think of

it so for?" She might respond, 'Well, i/s pretty good."

"l see you hqve one of those new cell phones, how do you like it?" She
responds, "ll's greol, it gets much better signol thon the other one I hod."

Run through the sequence ogoin:


Repeot the sequence:

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Breothe into your bolls.


Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout in her response.
Toke o second ond listen to lhe onswer.

Breothe into your bolls.


Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout in her response.
Toke

o second ond listen to the onswer.

Ask your follow-up question.

Ask your follow-up question.


You might respond, "So, whot do you like obout the book?" or "ls thol

You might soy,

outhor good? Hove you reod o$er books by thot outhor?" or 'lVhol

'lVhot hoppened to your old phone? Did it breok? Or

hove you been reoding lotely?" or "ls there onything you con recom-

did you find there were ports of town where it didn't work?"

mend to me?" Those ore the kinds of questions thqt stort o conversotion.
These ore not very personol queslions, but you con see how these con

leod to deeper conversotions. You con olso see how simple ond nolurol
they ore.

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here, whot wos ihe best doy working here?" or 'lVhofs the coolest thing

you've seen while working here?"

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Or you might hove osked, "Do you drink o lot of coffee while working

the hot womon behind the counter.

here? I bet there's o lot of lemptotion."


Stort by running through the sequence:
She might hove onswered, "l con't drink coffee onymore, ond I used to

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love it."

Breothe into your bolls.


Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout with this womon.

Run through the sequence:

Toke o second qnd listen to lhe onswer.

Ask your initiol question.

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For exomple, 'Xou must see oll sorfs of stuff working here. Whot's the
most unusuol thing you've seen while working here?"

She might respond with something like

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Ask yourself whot jiou could be curious obout in her response.
Tqke o second ond listen trc the onswer.

Ask your follow-up question.

'A gry come in here once ond


You might soy,

cups of coffee ond dronk them oll within eight minutes." So

'lVhot do you drink now insteod?" or 'lVhy did you stop

drinking it?"

whot do you soy next?

One thing to notice here is ihol once ogoin fiese ore simple questions.

You go through the sequence ogoin:

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self. You don't need to try to be impressive yourself. She doesn't core

Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout in her response.

thot you dronk 25 cups of cofhe one doy ond how cool you ore for

Toke o second ond listen to lhe onswer.

being o speed freok. She's interested in herself. Remember to focus on

Ask your followrup question.

drowing her out with your questions, not on showing off.

You might soy something like

'lVhot would hove hoppened if you hod

dronk thot much coffee?" or "lI thot wos your weirdest doy working

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SITUATION: You're ot the gym. After you finish o workoul, o womon

SITUATION: You ore woiling to be seoted ot o coB. A womon

wolks up ond prepores to use the some mochine you were on. So whql

stonding next lo you who looks like the type of womon you'd like to be

do you do? Run through the sequence:

tolking to. You notice thd there is o lot of unusuol ort on the woll. So

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you run through the sequence:

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Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout with this womon.
Toke o second ond listen to the onswer.

Ask your initiol queslion.

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Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout with this womon.
Toke o second ond listen to the onswer.

Ask your initiol question.

Perhops you soy something simple like '!Vhot's your fovorite mochine
here?" She responds,

"l love doing bicep curls. Thofs my fovorite."

You might sey, "Hi,whot do you think obout oll this ort?" She might
respond, "h/s not my style, but I guess i/s okoy."

So you go through the sequence ogoin:

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Breothe into your bolls.


Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout in her response.
Toke o second ond listen to the onswer.

Ask your follow-up question.

You might osk,

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Breothe into your bolls.


Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout in her response.
Tqke o second ond listen to ihe onswer.

Ask your follow-up question.

is it qbout the bicep curl thot you like?"


You might respond,

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see thot they con be. Just simple curiosity*not tqying to impress ony-

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SITUATION: You're ot o liquor store looking for tequilo. An otiroctive

ing on you. You see her ond wont io tolk to her. So you slort by running

womon working there qsks if she con help you. You run through the

through the process:

Process:

Breothe into your bolls.

Breothe into your bolls.

Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout with this womon.

Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout with lhis womon.

Toke o second ond listen to the qnswer.

Toke o second ond listen lo the onswer.

Ask your initiol question.

Ask your initiol question.

You soy something like

menu?" She responds,

You might soy, "l'm looking for some good tequilo. Whot kind do you

Vhot's your fovorite food, even if it/s not on the

"l love o reolly good steok."

like?" She might respond by telling you the brond she likes. You con then

run through the process ogoin:


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Breothe into your bolls.


Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout in her response.
Toke o second ond listen to the onswer.

Breothe into your bolls.

Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout in her response.


Toke o second ond listen to the onswer.

Ask your follow-up question.

Ask your follow-up question.


So you might come up with the question 'nVhot do you like obout it?,"

'!Vho/s

which would be o perfect next question. You could olso osk, 'Which

the best reslouront you've ever been Io?" or 'lVhofs your fworile

ploce serves the best tequilo or morgoritos in town?" This could build

You might respond, "So whot is the best steok you ever hod?" or

restouront in lown?"

or'lVhofs your fovorite ploce in town for steok?"

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We strongly recommend you proctice being curious

see o cute womon stocking videos. You decide to trclk to her. Here's whol

women. A gome thoi we like to ploy (though we don't tell other people

you do:

\ /e ore ploying it!) is seeing how long we con go in o conversotion with-

oul reveoling onything obout

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ourselves.

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both men ond

ln the gome, you're only

ollowed to osk questions of onother person.

Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout with this womon.

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Ask your initiol question.

We were recently listening to o speech given by morketing guru Joy


Abroms. He wos tolking obout the power of questions ond the power of
listening. Abroms told o slory obout o time he wos troveling cross-coun-

You might osk her, 'Whot is your fovorite new releose?" or

'lVhofs

the

try ond met o guy on on oirplone. Abroms storting osking the guy ques-

best movie you've seen recently?" She'll probobly onswer the question

tions obout himself. They tolked for hours-neorly the whole trip. At the

ond mention o newly releosed movie, so you run through the process

end of the conversotion, the mon lurned to Abroms ond soid, 'You ore

ogoin:

the most interesting guy l've ever mel." Abroms commenled fiot the
ironic port wos thot he (Abroms) did not soy onything obout himself; he

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iust kept osking questions.

Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout in her response.


Toke o second ond listen to the onswer.

We mention this story lo show how people will bond with you ond feel

Ask your follow-up question.

comfortoble with you when you give them the gift of osking questions.
When you provide women on opportunity

trc

tolk ond express themselves,

'lVhot did you like obout thol movie?" or "ls thot the kind

they will not only feel bonded to you but they will olso feel oppreciotive

of movie you normolly like?" or 'lVhot kind of movies do you tend to

lhot someone listrened to them. They moy not consciously reolize thot you

rent?" This will get her telling you obout herself. Then you con osk her

only listened lo them ond only osked questions without shoring much

more questions. Over time, these sorts of conversolions con gel much

obout yourself. Still, os in Abroms's story they will be conscious of feel-

more intimote ond personol.

ing closer to you.

You respond,

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We osk o lot of women if they've ever been on o dote with o guy who

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iust tolked obout himself, never shutting up or osking her onything. They

oll soy yes. They mention thol i/s rore for o mon to be o good listener.
As porf of your curiosity skills, toke the time to listen to how women

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onswer your queslions.

Good news: you ore now free of hoving to generote mogicol converso-

ilt pt'0graln I uffilt[u

You've leorned obout the importonce of interrupting ond initioting inter-

tion lo impress o womon. Better news: you ore now free lo osk questions,
lisien to the responses ond osk more queslions.

octions

wifi women.

Here's o simple woy to stort putting thot knowledge

into oction, storting todoy.

Lel's tolk specificolly

obout how you interrupt women ond redirect their

otlention toword you. Mony men think thot whot they reolly need is o
greot opening line. Guys often osk us, 'Whot ore the opening lines thot
women like?"

Here ore some opening lines we know women don't like, jusi for your
omusemenl:

"Hey boby, let's do breokfost tomorrow-sholl I coll you or nudge


you?"

"Hi, my nome is Dovid. Remember il, becouse you'll be screoming


it loter tonight!"
"Hey boby, ore you weoring your spoce underweor tonight?
Becouse your oss is out of this world!"

"Hey se4y, how would you like to ioin me in doing some moth?
Le/s odd you ond me, subhoct our clothes, divide your legs ond

then muhiply!"

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Getting into the hqblt of soying hi to women is on importont first step in

mother thot I would coll her when I found the girl of my dreoms."

hoving longer conversotions with women, conversolions thot leod to

"Congrotulolionsl You've been voted most beoutiful girl in this

seduction ond sex. Therefore, leorning to soy hi is your first tosk in inter-

room. The grond prize is o night with me!"

rupting ond initioting with women.

"Hey boby, is your dod o boker? Couse you sure hove greol bunsl"
This is obvious but importont fo note: soying hi to o womon estoblishes

We ore getting nouseoled.

o precedent of communicotion thot con work to your odvontoge. After


you soy hi to o womon, il's noturolto continue tolking with

Lefs be obsolutely crystol cleor: we ore nol suggesting you use these

her-but it'd

be weird to tolk if you hodn't soid hi. Therefore, soying hi is your first

lines. We include them to drow your ottention to the bosic problem with

step toword seduction ond sex.

opening lines: no motter how cute, sexy or obnoxious your opening line
is, ofter you've used it, you ore still foce to foce with o womon. When

For inslonce, hove you ever been in o sifuotion where, if you'd only soid

you use some opening line, she either loughs, snorts or throws o drink

hi to o womon right owoy, it would hove been oppropriote to tolk to her

in your foce. Then you still hqve to come up with something to soy next.

lf

onything, cutresy opening lines moke

it

loier on? Perhops it hoppened while you were woiting in line. You got in

horder to connecl with o

line ond you noticed o very pretty girl in front of you, but you didn't soy

womon, becouse so often they ore stupid lines thol piss women off.

hi to her when you first sow her os you got into the line. You were in
your own world or you were

The University of Chicogo did o study of opening lines (your tox dollors

trco

ofroid to soy hi or you didn't wont to

interrupt her or you used whotever your stondord excuse is for not inler-

ot work!) ond found thot "Hi" is the mosl effective opening line with o

rupting ond initioting with women. You stood in line next to this beouti-

womon. "Hi" is followed in effectiveness by "Do you like the bond?" (But

ful womon for o little while ond you reolized thot you wonted to tolk to

only if there's o bond ploying-try to keep thot in mind.)

her-perhops you even thought of something the two of you could converse

The bottom line is ihere is no opening line thot con keep you from hov-

obout-but by then you couldn't, becouse it would hove seemed

weird to stort iolking to her ofbr ignoring her for so long. lf only you

ing lo generote o conversotion with o womon, so you might os well use

hod soid hi when you first got into line you would hove hod some prece-

hi-ot

dent of ocknowledging eoch other's existence, ond it would hove been

leost it won'i piss her off. Of course, you'll still hove the problem

of needing to generote o conversotion with her, but we'll get to thot.

much eosier to trolk more loler.

First, lefs tolk obout thot best of oll opening lines, the word "hi."

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You've probobly hod thot kind of thing hoppen. We hove, too. Such sod,

ond write it on o piece of poper or on index cord. Corry thot cord with

lost opportunities ore the result of not setting o precedent of being o guy

you ond keep trock of how mony women you octuolly soy hi to os you

who tolks to women. They're the result of not soying hi.

go firough your doy.

lf you ore going to leorn to tolk to women ond implement whot you leorn

This moy seem silly, but it's importont. lf you don't hove on ideo of how

qnd become good ot it, you hove to be oble to toke scory octions ond

mqny women you soid hi to, il,s very eosy to get stopped ond stoy

boil them down into steps thot ore so smoll thot they ore noi scory ony

stopped. lf you keep trock, you con look ot your index cord ond soy,

more or ore iust scolf enough thot you con still do them. The Hi Progrom

'Wow, I soid I would soy hi to l0 women o doy ond I soid hi

is o greot woy to do thot.

women yesterdoy ond two todoy." Then you con look through this section

tro

zero

ogoin, figure out whot your problem is ond correct it. lf you don,t keep
The Hi Progrom is reolly simple: you decide how mony womon you ore

going to soy hi to eoch doy ond you do it. Suppose you decide to soy

trock,

i/ll

be eosier to delude yourself, overlook hends ond blow the power

of the entire progrom.

hi to I0 women o doy. Loter on, while you're wolking down the streel,
you see

I0 women ond you

soy hi to them. You go to the moll, you see

10 women, you soy hi to them.

On the olher hond, keeping trock olso helps you feel good obout whot
you've occomplished. Especiolly if you've been o shy guy, looking ot
your cord ond seeing you soid hi to 32 women todoy con feel pretty

When you follow the Hi Progrom, you become the kind of guy who iust

good.

lt's

worfh doing.

noturolly finds himself soying hi io women, so when you're in thot line

fn" women you sqy hi to don,t hove to heor you soy

you hove olreody sqid hi to thot cute girl in front of you ond you con

2.

eosily move on lo some other conversotionol sequence.

hi. At this point, the importont thing

is thot you open your mouth ond

soy hi. Whofs not importont ot this luncture is whether women heor you.
So open your mouth ond soy hi whether you think she con heor you or

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not. The women you soy hi to con be wolking in the other direction or
even weoring heodphones. lt doesn't mqfier. Just soy hi.

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Decide how mony women you ore going to soy hi to

eoch doy ond keep trqck of how you do. Mony of our sludents
soy they will soy hi to I 0 or 20 women o doy for five or six doys o week.

A lot of guys soy, 'Vell, oll the women I sow this week-oll of them, I00
percent-were weoring heodphones qnd were Rollerbloding the ofier

Decide how mony women you will soy hi to for how mony doys o week

woy or for some olher reoson wouldn't hove heord me, so I didn,t soy

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hi." Well, thofls gorboge. These guys didn't soy hi becouse they were
scored, ond they used o womon's inobility trc heor them os on excuse for

things like

not following the progrom. Open your mouth ond soy hi. lt doesn't mot-

tioting wilh women. You might wonl to keep o iournol obout it, perhops

ter if she heors you or not.

writing, "l om the mon becouse I soid hi to 25 women todoy. I con

om the mon!" Find something

lo celebrote obout the progress you ore moking in interrupting ond ini-

see

fhot I reolly om breoking out of my shell, ond tho/s greof." Or you con

3. Soy hi to ony womqn you see. Tho/s right, ony womon. She
con be old, fot, disobled-it doesn't motter. Remember, this is obout

get your body involved: moke some little motion, like shoking your fist
powerfully while soying, 'Yes! I soid hil"

building your initiotion muscle so you con interrupl women ond redirect
their ottention, no motter how briefly, toword you. At this point, it cqn be

We're omozed by the extenl to which the men we work with resist feel-

with ony womon ot oll; it doesn'l motier.

ing good obout the smoll steps ond smoll octions they toke wilh women,

bul il's importont thot you do so. Most men hove o hord time celebrot-

ing ony occomplishment thot isn't on ordeol. Thot won't work with

{- C"l.btote thqt you did it. Often we tolk with o guy who would
only let himself feel good obout himself if he monoged to convince o

women. Women like to be oround men who feel good obout themselves,

trciclly unottoinoble, uninterested supermodel whom he met on the sfeet

so it mokes sense to reword yourself ond feel good obout toking this first

to sleep with him in 15 minutes or less. Then ond only then would he

slep in tolking to women: soying hi to them.

ollow himself to hel good obout whot he occomplished with women.


You musl do this. So mony of our students will soy things like

'lVell,

We,ve soid it before ond we'll soy it ogoin: thot kind of ottitude is o mis-

wos wolking down the street ond I soid hi to 20 women in five minutes

tqke. lf you ore leorning to tolk to ond seduce women, you must ollow

ond it wos eos, so therefore it doesn't count." Or they soy, 'Yeoh, I soid

yourself to feel good ond to celebrqte eoch step in the process of getting

hi to t 0 women, but they were oll old or ugly, so it doesn't count." They

loid. Beoting yoursell up ond feeling bqd will not help becouse o guy

discredit their work before they even see the positive effucts of it.

who is reolly down on himself is inherently unollroclive to women. So


reword yourself; proise yourself for soying hi. h will help stort you on

Mony men who hove o hord time trrlking lo women ore often cought in

your woy to becoming o moster ot tolking to women.

this trop: i/s either got trc be troo hord, ond thus they con't do it, or i/s too

eosy, so it doesn't count. h/s os if they hoven't sufbred enough to ollow

lf you try lo proctice the Hi Progrom but put down your effort ond success iust becouse you oren't getting loid yet, you

themselves to foel good obout whot they did. Don't moke this mistoke.

will only impede your

own process. Let yourself feel good obout toking oction. Tell yourself

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out loud. Some men

ore stopped by the ideo of soying

hi to women they don't know. They stort to soy hi ond they choke up.

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Actuolly, such chokes hoppen to everyone now ond then. You oPen your

women. Woiting oround

mou$ to soy hi ond nothing comes out. lfs emborrossing, but there it is.

you'll never soy hi becouse the perfect momenl never comes. you hqve lo

br

the perfect moment fic soy hi guorontees thol

moke thot moment hoppen by interrupting her flow ond creoting it.
lf you hove trouble soying hi to women, proclice soying hi out loud olone

in the comfort ond privocy of your own home or cor. Just soy hi over ond

Mosl conloclwith women is not going to hoppen unless you moke it hop-

over in o cleor, powerful voice. This will get your body used to soying hi

pen. You need your interruption muscle to be strong so you con creote

ond moke it eosy ond noturol to do. Soon you'll be oble to do it without

thot contoct. This is criticol. Remember, you olone ore responsible for

thinking obout if, which is whot you need when you get foce lo fqce

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o beoutiful womon. You'll be oble to soy hi to women on the street,

interrupting women ond initioting contoct wifh them. you hove to do it.

in

f.

bookstores, of closses or onywhere else you meet them.

O,tty soying hi ro women who mqke eye contocr with


you. This is o very common problem men hove with the Hi progrom.
Guys soy to us, 'You guys told me to soy hi to I O women o doy ond

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thought thot would be reolly eosy, but then no womon mode eye contocr

with me, so I couldn't soy hi to ony of them."


Our experience hos shown us thot men ore very inventive in screwing
up the Hi Progrom. Here ore

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these ond ovoid them ond you

mosl populor trops guys foll into. Leorn

Listen: if you ore going through life woiting for women to moke eye

will be fine.

contoct with you before you soy hi, you ore woiling for women lo initi-

ole with you before you will interoct with them. You ore trying to ovoid

l. Oisquolifyirg oll women.

You con screw up the Hi Progrom by

interrupting \ /omen, qnd how well hos thot been working in your life?

disquolifying every womon os o condidote for o hi. Usuolly it works like

Not very well. The terrible truth: you must soy hi to women even if they

this: o guy refuses to soy hi lo most women becouse they ore not hot

oren't looking ot you. Women ore rorely going to moke eye contocl with

enough. He then refuses to soy hi to lhe resl becouse they ore so hot thot

you before you soy hi. They ore going to ovoid contoct becouse thot

he's intimidoted. The solution is lo remember this: your iob is to soy hi

whol women ore progrommed to do. Soy hi onywoy.

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to something femole qnd humqn. Thofs oll.

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2. Woiting for the "perlecl momenl."
o perfect moment ic soy hi. You iust hove
you're going to hove

trc

upset by women's responses. you,ll get oll

sorts of

The truth is there's never

responses when you soy hi. Some will be worm, some not. One of the ben-

do it. lf you con't iust soy hi,

efits of the Hi Progrom is you stort to leqrn thot her response doesn'l mot-

reolly hord time generoting conversotions with

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girl stonding in the gym's foyer looking ot o poster on the woll. As


I went

by her I soid, "Hi!"

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l/s worth risking this kind of response becouse hi


con orso work for you.
we hove hod mony more experiences where
iust soying hi hos initiored

wonderful, seductive conversotions with women. you


iust need to
remember thot everybody who proctices the Hi progrom
occosionoily

She storted in shock ond turned toword me, horrified. She looked

completely terrified, which is slronge, os I hoppen to know thot

gets o weird response, ond so willyou.

om nol thot scory-looking o guy. But this is port of being the kind

$. Refusing ro roke ony risks.

of guy who soys hi, who goes for whot he wonts without shome or
opology. Some women ore reolly in their own world of feor ond

being unwilling to toke risks. Mony men worrr obout


whqt other peopre
will think ond oren'r wilting to risk rhqr peopte mighrhink
poorly

upset. lt hos nothing to do with you, ond lhere's obsolutely nothing

becouse they soy hi to women.

Men olso kill rhe Hi progrom by

of rhem

you con do obout it. lf I hodn't stortled her, something else would
hove. So I did whot you hove to do in those situotions: I reminded
myself thot doting is o numbers gome, thot this kind of response
hoppens occosionolly ond thot it wos obout her, nol me. Then

wenl on with my doy ond didnt think obout it ony more.

For instonce, you moy feel like you ore risking


fiot eveqyone wiil see
whot you ore doing, everyone will know you ore trying
to be o seducer
ond everyone will point ot you ond rough or throw rocks
ot you or whoF
ever' However, if yov ore going to initiote with women
ond get them into
bed, you're going to hove to toke these risks-ond
more like them.

RON: Here's onolher exomple of the weird kind of response you might
get when you soy hi. The oiher doy, I wos wolking in o neorby

woods ond I soid hi to o womon who wos olso wolking there. Her
response? She turned ond ron owoy from

me-ond I om not thot

scoqy-looking either. lt wos this beoutiful noture oreo; I smiled ond

For now, simply know this: interrupfing women


feers risky becouse it is
risky. By following our odvice, you'il leorn how
to toke smorr risks wifi

women ond groduolly move into bigger risks over


time. The smoll risk of
soying hi is the perfect ploce to stort.

soid hi ond she iust looked incredibly upset.

We ore here lc lell you thot i/s time tn stcp worqying obout women's respons-

0. Deciding the Hi progrom is so simple thor you don,t


need lo do it. A lot of our students soy, ,lVell, soying hi to
women
is

es, ven if they ore like the ones dehiled obove. ll's fime lrc get post this ideo

thot you ore going lrc shofier o womon's enlire personolity iust by soying hi.
Some women, becouse of their own problems, lheir own histoqy ond their

ovrn lives, will get o little spooked when you soy hi. lt doesn'l motter. lf you
hodn't spooked her, something else would hove. Tho/s her, not you.

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reolly eosy so it con't reolly be effective. r meon, r


courd do thot right
now." We olwoys respond, ',ekoy, greot. lf ifs so
eosy, soy

hi ro

lo

women
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doy rar
for tne
the nexf
next week."
week.,, lnevitobly
Inevitobry lhey
rhey come
come bock
bock the next
week ond tell us, 'Wow, it wos o lot scorier
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thon

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guy who hod not hod sex in o couple of yeors ot leost, wos o greol
exomple of this. We gove him the ossignmenl of soying hi to

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do more, iust stort by soying

hi to o few women o doy or even one o doy. Thot will stqrt to develop

doy?" He soid, "No, I didn't soy hi to

o doy. I soid hi lo more thon 300 women in

is by soying hi.

lf you don't feel like you hove the guts

When we tolked to him the next week, we osked, "How'd it go? Did you
women

tolk to women successfully, ond the best woy to get thot muscle stronger

women

o doy ond sent him on his woy.

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him to meet, converse with ond seduce women. Strengthening your

The results of the Hi Progrom con be omozing. One of our studenls, o

soy hi to

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women

your iniliotion muscle, ond thot will stort you on your woy to powerfully
ond reliobly tolking to women.

lost seven doys. I went

to the beoch ond I soid hi to every womon I sow. lwent to the moll ond

I soid hi to every womon I sow. Wherever I wenl, I soid hi to every


womon I sow. I soid hi to 50, 60, even o hundred women o doy. I soid
hi to hot women, ugly women, old women, young women-qll of them."
He hod done greot work, ond he felt reolly good obout it.

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Men who hove hod bod experiences with women usuolly develop hobits

thot moke it horder to connect wilh women. For inslonce, they never
develop the hobit of expressing their virolity ond their physicol energy.

Toking such mossive oction hod positive results. He got his interruption

ond initiotion muscle so slrong thqt he wos empowered to boldly ond


powerfully toke the next steps in tolking to women os we tought them to

ln foct, they ore often unoble to proiect ony form of excitemenl or "up
vibe" oboul onything. These men hove repressed the ports of themselves
thot disploy vitolity when interocting wiih others.

him. He become oble to toke opportunities os ihey presented themselves

ond gove himself o bios for oclion with women thot over time got him
sex with o number of women ond eventuolly o girlfriend'

We're going tc discuss two types of vitolity: physicolvitolity ond vocol excitement. We'll show you how trr hqve more physicol vitolity ond vocol orcite-

menl in your lifu. Both will help you become more powerfulwith women.

Obviously, soying hi by itself wosn't enough, but

he point

is this: he

never would hove succeeded without leorning lo soy it. He got himself

to the point where he could initiote eosily, ond thot mode it possible for

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proiect

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Women ore looking for someone who hos vitolity, possion ond energy.

tolking obout odding hond ond body movements for emphosis onry. you
shouldn't wove your orms oround looking insone.

Put onother woy, do you come ocross os o guy who gets loid or os o guy

o befier ideo how ro use your body to emphosize whot you're

who is poinfully shy ond hord to tolk to?

To get

One woy to hove more vitolity is to oct with more urgency oround

tolking obout, wqtch lote-nighr-w tolk-show hosts ond comedions. TV


performers ore good speokers becouse they're subtle ond groceful
ond

women. Mony men treot life like o reheorsol. There's no energy or com-

use their body in o very noturolwoy. These people ore skilled


or odding

milmenl behind whol $ey do. They oct like they con woit oround brever before toking oction. As o result, they oppeor to be wishy-woshy ond

body movements lo emphosize the humor in their monologues. studying


these performers should give you on ideo how to integrote your
body

they hove o flot offect. These men olso tend to come ocross os boring

into your own speoking style.

ond predictoble. lf you foll into this cotegory don'l worry. We'll teoch
you methods of bringing more vitolity to your life. lt's o skill thot you cqn

Moke Eye contccr.

moster if you work on developing il over time.

ing yourself to moke eye conroct with women. when you enter o room,
do you sweep rhe room moking brief eye confoct wirh women or do you

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Look over your life ond situotions in which you were interocting with

women. Did you hove o sense of urgency when tolking with them or
were you flot ond wishy-woshy? Our hope is thot this book will inspire

Port of developing o physicor presence is troin-

look ot the floor ond tqy to hide? Most shy men ovoid eye contocr
no
motter whot.

one of the components of hoving o physicol presence

is

moking eye contrrcr with women os well os men. rfs importont thot you
leorn to be seen by people ond feel comforroble being looked or.

when

you opprooch o womon, ir's cruciol thot you feel comfortoble looking
ot
her ond moking eye con'cct when you speok. Otherwise, you,ll
come

ocross os wishy-woshy ond uninterested.

you to stort toking more risks with women ond feel more confident lo
toke on life ot

much higher level thot you've ever felt comfortoble

doing before. Here qre five things thot will help you do iust thot.

You might find moking eye contoct scory. lf so, you,re not olone.
Mony
men find eye contoct intimidoting. We recommend thor you proctice
this

Use Your Body

for

skill os often os you

Emphosis. When you use your honds ond

body os you speok, you'll come ocross os more possionole ond power-

con-on the troin, wolking down the srreet, ony-

where there ore women. over fime you'll feel more comfortoble.

ful. Don't go loo for, though, by pretending to hove on epileptic fil; we're

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Donce ond Jump Around. Anoher thing you cqn stort doing
five minutes eoch
owoy is to put on o donceoble song ond spend ol leort
oround lo the music' Mony men who ore
doy doncing ond

iumping

to get excited
intimidoted by women don,t give themselves permission
They tend to
obout ony'hing or to feel physicolly excited obout onything'

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When you're vocolly excited, you speok with o voriety of vocol lones;
you don't iust tolk in o monotone ond soy the some thing over ond over.
lf there oren't mony speed chonges or volume chonges in your speoking

by doncing to
stoy colm ond flot. Troin yourself to be more spontoneous

style, you come ocross os deod. When you opprooch o womon ond ore

o song eveqy doy'

boring ond flot, she'll likely wont lo ovoid tolking to you. The reoson
most guys tolk quietly is becouse they're scored of interrupting or upset-

let Yourself Screom.

lfs importont to let go ond moke some noise

ond screom loudly' l/s


occosionolly. You mighr wont lo go into your cor

ting women. One woy to feel more confidenl is to leorn to speok from
your bolls.

up or colm down
imporlont thot you leorn to express yourself ond omp
more excited is by
depending on fie situotion. One woy to leorn lo be

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Work Out. Working oul on o regulor

bosis is onother woy lo chorge

or run' you in turn


up your body. When you feel greot ofter o workout

We first tolked oboui speoking from your bolls in chopter

l.

lt sounds

slronge, but il's very effective. We've oll hod moments when we felt
strong ond confident ond mode no opologies for whot wos coming out

other people in
proiect virolity io the women you inleroct with ond the
it helps with siress
life. Working out is importont, not only becouse

of our mouths. We've oll hod momenfs when we've soid something ond

it increoses your
reliel ond keeps you in good shope but olso becouse
form of oerobic
physicol presence when you're with women' Find o

tened. lf you go bock ond think obout how it felt to speok powerfully,

your

exercise you enioY ond do il often'

These five suggestions

it felt like it iust come out of our core ond people iust stopped ond lis-

you'll find thot it come from your guts or oll the woy down from your
bolls. Most likely it wos os if on energy come up from thot port of your

will help you develop physicol presence ond power

self-expressed
with women. All of these exercises will help you be more
women. Remember,
ond will help you come ocross os more ottrqctive trc
while you do them ond stop when it sficps being fun'

hove fun

body ond out your mouth. We're going to teoch you how to reproduce
thot experience ot will.

Men who feel intimidoted oround tolking to women cut off their life ener-

gy ond their vitolity. When you speok from your bolls you feel more con-

fident becou3e you hove your life energy supporting you. When you
hove vitolity ond confidence, tolking to women is much eosier.

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The ideo of speoking from your bolls or your guls is not thot unusuol.

in touch with their power. They ore used to ovoiding their


bolls ond gurs
when they feel scqred. You con troin yourself, however, to focus
on this
oreo; over time, il will greotly enhonce your self-confidence.

We know thot peok performers in sports ond other fields incorporote this
concept into their success sirotegies. They get reolly grounded in their
guls or their bolls; they feel o conneclion to thot oreo, they breothe into

it ond they get psyched up. Peok performers use this proctice to moke
themselves feel strong, confident ond powerful before they
speech

Breothing is on importont ospect of leorning to speok from your


bolls. rt
olwoys sounds silly when someone tells you to breothe; if we weren,t

go into o

breothing, we'd be deod, obviously. But you con breothe deep


down

or importont situolion.

inside of yourself ond imogine the oir going

deeply-or you con breothe

This is on owkword thing to discuss; the notion of coming from your bolls

shollowly. when men feet intimidoted, they usuoily breothe


shollowly.

is so foreign thot our only connection to tolking obout it is to ossociote it

Breothing deeply helps you relox. Spend

with mqsfurbotion. We wont you to stort ossocioting speoking from your

breothing deeply into your novel ond below, ond feering the power
thot
comes from fiot port of your body.

bolls with hoving the power to help you get whot you wont wilh women,

o few minutes eoch

doy

not with something to feel emborrossed oboul or hide from.

ing the energy qround your nwd ond your bolls. We're not tolking

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thot energy, sense your bolls, ond then breothe into it. Next, feel your

Just os you need physicol vitolity, you olso need to proiect


vocol excire-

Here's how you con use this energy. Stort by closing your eyes ond sens-

ment. Here ore o few proctices to experiment with thot will enhonce
your
vocol copocity.

breoth circulote down io your guts ond bolls ond then come bock up.
The more comfortoble ond fomilior you become with thot energy, the
more confident you will feel with women. The more fomilior you ore with

'

dence when you ore tolking to women. This simple proctice con be done

lmogine thor there's on excirement merer inside of you. When


the
meler is of len, you ore bursting with excitemenl; zero equols

onytime, onywhere.

being deod. Mosr of the time shy men ore oround one or rwo on

thot energy, the eosier it will be to occess thot sense of colm qnd confi-

the excitemenr meter. They don't

ltt

os if they ore cut off below their

necks. They don't feel powerful ond insteod ovoid being grounded ond

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let things

gel out of control, so they don,l get more excited. One woy for
you to ger more excited is to put yourself in fronr of o mirror
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When they first stort working with us, mosl of our students tend to speok

from their heods or their throot.

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to 10 you con get. Try this for 30 seconds b o

minule ond see how it feels to hove the excilemenl circulole

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You now know The Hi Progrom, ond how to implement it in your life. We

more excited obout something thon you normolly would be. You

invile you to decide to srort using The Hi progrom todoy. chose how
mony women you ore going to soy hi to eoch doy, ond stort doing if.

con go into this one step ot o time; you don't hove lo peg it or 10

Keep trock. see whot comes up to block you, get firough those brocks,

right owoy. lf you're normolly ot one or two, let yourself go to four

ond celebrote your successes. The Hi progrom is the foundotion for rok-

or five, then groduolly roise the bor. This might seem crozy to you.

ing the next steps with women we will teoch you in upcoming chopters.

Spend time with onother person ond toke ot leost o minute lo gel

ln foct, it is silly, ond when you're excited you risk looking silly.
When you're in the flow of being excited, however, ifs ottroctive to

You olso now know obout creoting ond increosing physicol ond vocol

women. You con get owoy with o lot more when you're excited

vitolity. Both of these foctors will be importont in you future obilities ro

oboul something thon you con when you're dull ond boring.

converse seductively with women.

People wont lo be oround excited people. lf you're willing to occept

your own enthusiosm obout things, which might be silly, other people will olso be okoy with it. lf you're willing to occept those silly
ports of yourself, o womqn will know thot you will olso occept her
silly ond owkword ports.

Act excited obout mundone things. You con choose to be excited


obout life or you con choose to be deod. You con hide in your
house, be ofroid to tqlk lo onyone ond be ofroid to show your
interest in ony'hing, but this will only keep you further owoy lrom

women. The olternotive: gel engoged in life ond toke the risks to
let yourself engoge wilh women. We're giving you permission to
let yourself show your enlhusiosm.

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There is on inner gome of tolking to women. lt's oll obout groppling with
yourself ond deoling with your feors ot eveqy stoge of opprooching ond

tolking to women.

You might soy

fiol

there is o wor in your heod. There's o bottleground

inside you. Perhops there is o port of you thot wonts to tolk to women

while onother port is scored to deoth of reiection. One port of you wonts
relotionships with women; onother port only wonls shorl-term sex. One

port of you feels shong ond confident; onother port of you feels scored
ond intimidoted.

Lel's spend some lime looking ot the internol struggles reloted to seduc-

tion ond offering some tips on how to hondle the inevitoble internol
problems thot come up when opprooching women.

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The other side of being defensive is being protective. Whot ore you pro-

tecting yourself from when you're tolking to women? Usuolly you ore
protecting yourself from reiection or from looking like o moron, or else

you're simply tqying too hord to look good. Unfortunotely there is noth-

Defunding, opologizing ond prctecting yourself.

When tolk-

ing you con do but toke risks wiih women. You olwoys risk looking stu-

ing to women, mony men feel os if they hove to defend themselves. They

pid, being vulneroble ond being owkword. Approoching women

immediotely ossume thot every'hing o womon soys is o personol ottock.

inherently risky ond vulneroble. You hove to decide to live with it.

is

These men oct os if women ore oul to get them, out to humiliole them,

ond the only fhing they con do to reroliote is be prepored for on

Another common trop is opologizing for your sexuol inleresl. Shy men

inevitoble ottock.

feel os though opprooching women is wrong. They think thot if they


show romontic or sexuol intreresl il in some woy hurts o womon. These

When Bob fhe bod seducer tolks to women he is conslontly on guord


ond wondering when she will ottock him. He stores ot her with on ongry

men think they ore so powerful thot they con ruin ony womon's doy
merely by commenting thot she is beoutiful or showing ony interest.

expression. When o womon osks him o personol queslion he tokes on o


defensive tone ond soys, 'tVhot do you meon by fhot?" or

'lVhy do you

think thofs your business?" Bob is so wropped up in his poronoio $ot


he is unoble to hove o conversqtion with o womon'

Strotegizing.

There ore concrete skills you con leorn to help you suc-

ceed with women. ll/s smort to study seduction moferiols;

stud this book

ond our other products ond leorn os much obout yourself, women,
romonce ond sexuolity os possible. Studying, however,

Toking o defensive posiiion when you're tolking lo women does not


work. When you toke on o defensive position ond ossume o womon is

ottocking you, being oggressive

is oll obout

preporotion. Once you're hoving on ocfuol conversotion with o womon/


oll the rules chonge.

or trying to horm you, you seem

uncomforioble, meon ond nosty. You need to be open when you're tolking fo women. When you're focused on defending yourself or opolo-

Once you're in on octuol conversotion with o womqn ifs best to try to

gizing for your sexuol interesl you connot listen to o womon ond connol
hove fun with her. When you're with o womqn, look for times when

ent moment you need lo give up qny strotegy thot you moy hove.

you're defending ond protecting yourself ond times when you oren't'

forget obout forcing on oulcome; relox ond hove fun. To be in the pres-

There ore o few reosons why strotegizing does nol work:

Whofs the difference? Whot ore the internol triggers?

The experience of being with women chonges from moment lo

momont, to ony rtrotegy you employ will not be opplicoble to the

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ineviioble curvebolls women will throw ol you' How con you
o strotegy for q situotion thol hos no predictobility? You con't'

Strotegizing mokes you blind to openings' When you ore tolking


inito women lhere ore subtle openings to osk for phone numbers'
tiote different types of conversotions, go lor the first kiss, ond
not
more. When you're focused solely on your strotegy you will

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qn octuol fight he uses evefihing he's ever leorned during his troining.
He uses the blocks, the kicks, the punches ond more.

But to do thot, during the octuol fight he must give up ony strotegy ond

ony skill he's leorned ond be ovvore of the other fighter. He must be open

to responding to onything thot hoppens. lf he's focused on showing off,

be in on
see the openings for moving things further' You need to

strotegizing or expecling the other fighter to fight o porticulor woy he's

odd Zenlike stote of being immersed in the situolion yet detoched


solely
enough to see when to osk for her phone number' lf you ore

in for o rude owokening. The momenl he storts thinking he understonds


how fhe fight will go he'll likely get his oss kicked. The moment he storts

o kick or o punch, the other fighter will do something

focused on o slrotegy you'll miss the openings'

expecting

Fun
Strotegizing is not fun' Why do we keep tolking obout fun?
flow
men lurn women on. When you're hoving fun you're in the

pletely different ond knock him out. With women you need to let go of

ond when you're miseroble ond struggling you ore not ottroctive'
When you focus on o strotegy ond work hord to seduce women'

com-

ony strotegy ond skill you've leorned ond be open lo whotever hoppens.

When you con be owore, presenl ond open, tolking to women will be
fluid ond fun.

like
you toke oll the fun out of ir ond moke tolking to women feel

work. Relox ond find woys to enioy the experience'


is
Strotegizing mqkes you come ocross os o freok' A mon who
focused on o sirolegy comes ocross os owkword ond uncomfortTelemorketers ore olwoys irying to use cule lines ond stupid

oble.

qs time
questions lo engoge you ond they olwoys come ocross
slrolwosters. Sqlesmen who hove on ogendo or ore using o soles

egy come ocross os creepy. When you ore focused on o slrotegy


or using o technique you roo will come ocross os superficiol ond
creepy.

Monipuloring.

Do you wont to leorn o surefire method for feeling like

o ierk? Do you wont to find o woy to feel guilty, crummy obout yourself
ond regretful? Monipuloling women is one woy you con creole o situotion where you feel like o totol ierk.

We've worked with thousonds of men, ond the number one concern lhey
hove in seducing women is thot they wont to dote ond hove sex without

being

o lerk. Men tell

us thot when they monipulote ond lie lo women

they feel terrible. They feel guilty ond depressed. Men tell us thot even
when monipulotion works the cost is nol worth it. The ultimole cost for

his kicks,
Think obout how o mortiol ortist goes into o fight. He works on

monipuloting women is your self-esteem. Fortunotely, you don'f need to

mushis punches, his blocks ond more. He works for yeors developing
During
cles ond strengih, procticing in the doio with his fellow students.

monipulote. You con build reol connections, using the tools in this book.

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Lefs get honest here. Hqrsh truths thot you must foce:

er then you need to stop looking for cerlointy. lf you ore seorching for o
seduction method thot is bosed on certointy ond stobility you will foil

Some of our students meet women who hove boyfriends ond they

every time. Tolking lo women is qll obout uncertointy ond unpredictobil-

will not occept the foct thot the womon is olreody token.

ity. Tolking lo women is like iumping off

o high diving boord. So whol

Some of our students keep colling o womon even ofter o few dotes

or

hove gone bodly. They foil to occept the foct thot the womon is not

do you do? You con either climb bock down or decide not

trc iump

you con muster up the couroge lo go for it. lf you iump there ore o few

interested in them.

seconds in which you ore folling through the oir, which hels scory exhil-

Some of our students keep colling women even ofter o few dotes

oroting ond intense.

hove gone bodly. They foil to occept thot they don,t like the

womon!
Tolking to women is like iumping off o diving boord. At first there is no

We oll meet women we find ottroctive who hove no interest in

woy of knowing how things will go. You don't know if she's got o
bofriend, if you're her type, if you'll offend her with o comment or if

The vost moiority of women you tolk to ore not interested in you.

us.

To hove o chonce

l/s importont to see the truth ond occept focts. When you hold on to folse

ot success, however, you need to iump ond go for it ond understond thot

hopes ond lie to yourself i/s hord to succeed with women. poin con be

you hove no clue qbout whether you'll succeed or foil. We oll get scored

o greoi motivotor.

when we first opprooch o womon. We oll feel nervous ond uncertoin

befter to feel the poin of foilure ond loneliness, fhon it is to lie to your-

ond doubt our skills. You con still go for it, though. Your iob is to feel the

self. The poin con become on olly, not something to resisi. When you,re

feor ond still do it onyrroyl

oble to be honest it's much eqsier to come up with on qction plon ond

you'll toke her home thot night ond hove sex with her.

h/s

our belief thot ifls better to be honest ond reol, ifs

get bock into the gome of doting.

Resisting the truth. Mony of our students hove o hord time focing
the horsh reolities of doting women. Most men wonl o sonitized version

Forcing qn outcome. As men, one woy we succeed in life is by forc-

of doting women; they wont the version without the risk of poin ond
humiliotion. Guess whot? Tho/s not reol. Most women on this plonet ore

ing outcomes. lf you're o compufer progrommer, for instonce, through


sheer hord work, discipline qnd drive you con occomplish neorly ony-

not the slightest bit interested in doting you. So whot? You're only look-

thing ond complete ony proiect. lf you're o doctor or on ocodemic you

ing for the hondful of women who ore.

con push yourself ond struggle through medicol school or struggle


through your Ph.D. fiesis process. You con push yourself ot ony
iob to
work overtime, do odditionol studying, toke on odditionol responsibilities ond occomplilh firrks you never thought you could.

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oi work. when it

Mony men use fie theropist ploy to otlempt

trc

become lovers with women.

work qlone
comes to seducing women hord work is importont, but hord

The ploy usuolly works this woy: o guy is o friend with o womon he wonts

will not bring you success. You con conFol o lot of oukomes ot work.
you cqn,l control women. You connol conhol oulcomes with women.

to dote. He thinks thot if she opens up irc him emotionolly then it will like-

her on'
None of us knows whot o porticulor womon wonts, whot furns
issue of
whot she,s looking for in o mon. so you connol opprooch the

will wont tc dote him. Then,

problems'
how to seduce women in the some woy you would your work

lying.

With women il's oll on experiment. You show up, run some communico-

lo gel sex. We ore wholly ogoinst lying to women ond do not in onywoy

tion experiments like Deepening Questions ond Romontic Questions,


if
ond see whot the response is like. lf she's oPen you do some more'

encouroge you to lie. We wont you to cultivote the skills to creote relo-

ly leod ic sex. He thinks thot if he con solve her emotionol problems


trc his

she

surprise, things pon out difhrently.

Some doting "experts" encouroge men to lie to women os o woy

tionships wilh women you con feel good oboul, nol regret.

she's unreceptive You move on.

Whot does lying soy obout you? Lying soys thot you ore the kind of guy

hove

who connot gel women by being honest. You connot get women unless

up ond do
sex wiih you or be in the mood to mqke out"You con show

you pretend you're someone else. You cqnnol get women if you ore iust
you. Lying leods to o lock of self-respect ond to regret.

This is olso true when going on dotes. You connot force o womon

your best to creote o romontic mood. Then ogoin, you con do everything
line is
perfectly ond she still might not be turned on by you. The bottom

Lying might work in the short term, but ultimotely ifs veqy costly. Whot if

twofold:

you end up reolly liking o womon ond wont to pursue o relotionship with
a

You connoi control ouicomes with women'

her? Then she finds you out you lied to her ond she's no longer inlerest-

You con only show up ond do your best'

ed. Whot if you forget obout the lies you told ond o womon cotches you
in one of your lies? How is thot going to go over? Whot if the word gets

You connol force outcomes with women' Do not even lry'

oround thol you're o lior?

Trying to solve q womon's problems

The bottom line is thoi lying is unnecessory ond tends to couse more

blow your
is suicide. You might os well iust put o gun to your heod ond
in you i[
broins out if you think o womon will be romonticolly interested

problems thon i/s worth. lnsteod, we recommend you cultivote internol

Trying to solve her problems.

you solve her problems.

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pore yourself to orher men. This book ond this progrom ore
into your life'
ond you olone. ll's obout whot you con do to get women
students
We oll hove different experiences qnd skills. Whol most of our

women,
do is look qt the bod boys, ond the men who ore with the hofiesl

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to other men is not useful. Who/s useful is constructing o plon of oction

fhot improves your skills.

Beoting up on yourself. One

key difference between successful

seducers ond unsuccessful seducers is thot the most successful seducers

ond feel ieolous ond depressed. Our studenls soy things like:

products.) No motter where you ore in lhe process, comporing yourself

don't beot themselves up. lnsteod, they constontly focus on the woys in

Other men ore rich ond con therefore eosily get women'
Other men live in o city with more hot women per copito'

which they ore successful with women.

women'
Other men hove o iob thot is more conducive to meeting
eosier
Other men ore younger thon I om ond therefore hove on

Doting women is o long-term proiect, qnd os with oll long-term proiects

big sleps forword; sometimes, smoll steps bockword. Along the woy
you
there will be upset, poin, horsh reolity, scory moments, fun ond
ioy.

time.
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Other men qre toller.

Other men ore in betier physicol shope'

Other men ore iust nolurols.

the gool is smoll incrementol progress over time. somerimes there will be

need to develop on internol opprooch trc see the positive steps you toke

with women. ln the confusing, long odyssey of doting women, you need

to constontly look ot the movement ond steps you've loken ond con-

other
All of these excuses ore trops. There is nothing you con do oboui

stontly compliment ond reword yourself for your own progress.

men; oll you con do is chonge yourself'


You con either look ot eoch interoction with women qnd kick yourself for

oll the lucky


Rother thon focusing on whot olher men ore doing ond
inexperienced
breoks they hove, whot con you do? Moybe you're veqy

the woys you blew it or you con celebrote the foct thot you octuolly did

women. lf
with women ond to you i|/s o huge siretch iust to soy hi to
from
thofs hord for you then srort by soying hi ond build your skills

life for mony of our students. They moke o proctice out of feeling guilty

somefiing. Unfortunotely, beoting up on yourself hos become o woy of

for ony opportunities they didnt toke with women, errors they mode

qnd need to slort experimenlthere. Other men feel more comfortoble


men
ing with the o&onced conversoiionol modes in this book' Some

while tolking to women ond opportunities to osk for phone numbers they

Mostery
moy feel clueless obout doting women ond wonl to buy The
for
course becouse they need o comprehensive progrom

do correctly. When you con see the things you've done correctly ond the

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woys you've pushed yourself in new directions, if will enhonce your self-

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Perhops your eventuol gool is trc go trc bors ond trrlk to women, but ot the

lf beoting up on yourself worked we'd tell you'

momenl you're terrified of doing so. lnstreod, you con stort tonighl by

going to bookstores ond soying hi to

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women. lf you're home on the

i/s importonl to develop lis-

couch, see if you con get motivoted io toke one smoll sirep toword tolking

soys
iening skills. when you ore oble to lisien corefully lo whot o womon
likes ond
you leorn importonl informotion obout her. You leorn whot she

lo women by leoving your house. Moybe you'll lust go to the coffee shop

Not lisfening.

To be on effective seducer

ond smile ot o bw women. Tho/s o much bigger step thon stoying ot

she's possiondislikes. You leqrn whot she considers romontic ond whot
inlo more seducote obouf. You olso leorn how to move the conversotion

home.

ideos ond
tive depths. These detoils ore useful in coming up with dote
olso in creoting more ropport between ihe two of you'

Scomming women.

Remember the line from the movie Body Heat

obout the perfect crime?

'A

'perfect crime.' lf you're

o genius, you con think of 50 of them. And

hundred things con go wrong with every

obout
All too often men don't listen to women becouse they're thinking

you're not o genius." Do guys who use tronsporent scoms lo gel women

to osk. Deol
the next step in o seduclion or moybe iust the nexl question
q
will
your internoldiolog when you ore tolking to womon ond you

ocfuolly think women ore dumb enough to foll for them? We know o hot

with

young bisexuol femqle who spends o lot of time online. She soys ifs not
shocking thot men

be oble to poy otlention to her.

iry to scom on her online-its iust shocking how

tronsporenl these scoms usuolly ore.

Being on the couch qnd wishing you wene our flirting wirh
women. h's eosy lo sit on he couch ol home wonting to interoct with

The bottom line is this: most of the time when you think you're getting owoy

wonl to go
women. We oll get frustroted ond depressed ond iust do not
woy to get
out ond proctice our seduction skills. But there is no olher

with something, you're octuolly being incredibly obvious. This mokes peo-

They ore
women. They ore not going to porochub into your bockyord'
They ore not
not going to suddenly knock on your door ond beg for sex'

wont.

beg
going chose you down the sireet ond then toke off their shirt ond
you to feel them up then ond there' lt iust oin't gonnq hoppen'

Mony of us leorned eorly on in life rhot the only woy to get oheod is to

ple-especiolly women-hob you ond not wont

trc give

you whot you

scom people. h/s either be o scom ortist or get nothing ot

oll-or,

even

worse, be screwed by eveqybody else scomming you. The problem with

get up' leove the


Here's how we recommend you chonge this pottern:

this is thot while scomming moy get some results occosionolly, ir costs

house ond go onyaAere other thon home'

you your self-respect ond selFesteem os o mon. Scomming is whot o guy


does when he's looking for o quick fix for life's problems, ond quick fixes

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Beniomin Fronklin once soid, "lf roscols knew the pleosure of virtue, they

ing some lome pickup line or rouline on o womon ond hoving her throw

would become virtuous out of sheer roscoliry." When you work fie fun-

her drink in his foce? How does o guy feel obout himself when he spends

domentols ond build connecrions with people-whot Fronklin might coll

$50 on pheromone cologne ond it hos no effed on women?

being virluous-you reolly con get whot you wonl.

Often guys with o scom orientqtion think thot ifs olmost o duty to toke
os much os they con from people. lf you give them on inch, they try to

Not qsking for the number or stepping up the seduction.


seize opporlunities when they ore in front of you! opporrunities ore

tqke o mile. lf they con get o mile, they go for even more. lf you ore like

there for one reoson: for you fo toke them. yes ir's true, if you foil to toke

this, women you lry to scom on will sense it ond ovoid you. Businesses

opportunities life will not end, ond you shouldn't beot yourself up. At the

yov

lry to

scom

will cotch you. scoms ore hord on your

self-respect.

some fime, the world of tolking ro women is oll obout creoting bigger

to
Even when they work, they reinforce the ideo thot you hove to scom

ond bigger openings to risk toking things to rhe next level. perhops you

get by in life, ond thot hos o psychologicol cost'

wont to tolk to o womon ond you risk tolking to her; the next risk is osking her out. Push yourself to toke the next risk. push yourself to go for it.

Men ore fomous for confusing kindness for blindness. Just becouse o
womon is nice doesn'l meon she won't hit bock if you try irr scom on her.

When on opportunity shows up, go for it, rother thon regret not going
for it loter.

The belief thqt you con or should toke people for oll you con gel ultimotely

does not work with women or for getting the life you wonl. lf you wont
something from someone, you've gol lo moke on effort to build o mutu-

olly beneficiol connection. You must creote positive flirting conversotions


thot give women good feelings ond moke them wonl to see you ogoin'

Only rrying one opprooch or experimenting with one


technique or niche. lf you use only one technique in this book, you
will foil. successful seduction

is built on o foundotion of experimentotion.

You never know with ony degree of certointy whot will eventuolly work.
You need lo experiment

wifi online doting,

meeting women in bors, try-

Whot's reolly needed is to get out of the entire scom orientqtion. A

ing mony different niches ond constontly being on the lookout for new

seducer who isn't o scom ortist underslonds thot poying the price is whot

ploces to find women. You must try o voriety of different opprooches.

o mon iust wonls to know whot the price is. He isn't


trying to pull o fosf one. This shows up with women in leorning how to
moke o reol, humon, romontic connection, even if your gool is o shorl-

leffing your onger ond frusfrqlion qt women


lhrough in your communicqrion.

term sexuol relotionshiP.

out in the world risking ond tolking ro women. h con be stressful, scory

ifls oll obout. Such

come

lt con be very frustroting to be

ond downright oggrovoting. lr's very frustroting to wolk down the street

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fruslrotionThe solution is to creote spoces where you con let out your

hoving chorocter. Women wont o mon who is interesting ond interested.

spqces where there ore no women oround'

You need to find your edge, the ports of yourself thot ore unique.
Women wonl

us do' you need


lf you ore o guy who gets frustroted eosily, ond mony of
mon
to find outlets for thot frustrotion' lf you come ocross os on ongry

most likely
to women they will not only be turned off by you, they will
find you intimidoting ond wont to ovoid you. You need to understond
lf you
your frustrolion enough to see when it's coming out with women'
o nice guy you moy come ocross os orrogont ond meon'

ore

mon with possion ond energy. Look ot how you con

express yourself with women ond show your chorocfer.

Hqve fun.

Fun ollrocts more fun. Depression oilrocts more depression;

feor otirocts more feor. women wont to be oround fun men. one reqson comedions get women, even though mony comedions ore not por-

ticulorly otfroctive, is becouse they ore fun to be oround. women find


men who moke them lough or ore fun to be oround sexy ond

Here's how you come con come ocross os ongry lo women:

exciting-

in o$er words, potentiol lovers. For mony women ployfulness, fun ond
sexiness ore linked. Hove fun ond moke every interoction fr-rn for both of

Seeming snotty

Seeming iudgmentol

Seeming dismissive

Give up how it hos to look. When

Seeming like you ore lecturing people

you need to give up your ideos of how o conversotion or interoction

Soying things thot seem like roundoboui woys of telling people

should look. You never know whot will hoppen. Moybe you end up tolk-

to shui up

ing to o womon ot o concert ond you get her number but don't bring her

Joking oround in woys thot seem condescending or potronizing

home. Moybe o womon seems reolly into you but never colls you bock.

Being sorcostic in woys ihot seem meon

you.

you,re deoling with women

Moybe she's only interested in you os friend ond not o lover. you will not

find this out unless you give up your preconceived notions of how ir

women ond
This does not meon you hove to wolk on eggshells oround
respectfully ond
oct like you ore Mr. Hoppy oll the time' lt meons you oct

should look, ond find out whot reolly is there. you hove no clue whot the

do not come ocross os o meon guy.

or her interest level, oll you con do is show up ond go with the flow.

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good becouse you con coll him for support bounce ideos off of him.

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moke things os seductive os possible. But if you ore too focused on get-

ting o number/emoil oddress or hoving on inleroclion look o porticulor

Hwing someone you con blk b obout women on o regulor bosis

woy you will miss the direction she wonts things to go. You will miss the

ful in stoying motivoted, pushing yourself ond overcoming trouble. you

cues she's giving you ond openings lo toke the interoclion deeper.

will olso leorn o lot obout yourself by being o buddy ro onother mon in

is

very help-

helping him dote women.


h's o porodox. At one

pointyou need to give up ony ottochment ond ony

focus on whof things need to look like. At the other you need to try to

Focus on your gools ond keep your

push things inlo more romontic spoces. Be cognizont of both of these

ond soying hi to women. You need to come up

opprooches qnd do your best lo stoy in behveen both.

This meons you hove gools, both shorr ond long-rerm. This meons you

word to yourself obout opprooching

wifi o seduction

plon.

come up with o strotegy to proctice tolking to women. perhops you com-

Cut off communicotion qnd ovoid people ond situotions


thot moke you uncomfortoble. Sometimes you need to cut o dote
short ond leove.

A mon who hos selFrespect does nol stoy in situotions

where he feels condescended to, obligoted to poy for things thot don't

mit to soying hi to

l0

women per doy, procticing the Romontic Moves o

few limes per week ond hoving qt leost two Deepening conversotions
(oll of which you will leorn loter in this book). Whotever your gools
ore

you need to push yourself to keep your word.

feel right or offended or otherwise mode uncomfortoble by o womon'


unsuccessful seducers don't toke

fieir

promises seriously ond blow off

Once ogoin we're not tolking obout being rude or meon, bul sometimes

occomplishing their gools. successful seducers keep their word no mot-

dotes ore not going well ond even feel reolly bod. We're giving you per-

ter whot. lf they promise to tolk to o cerroin number of women eoch doy

mission to leove these situolions ond go somewhere else. You do not need

or week, they do it.

to subiect yourself to women ond situolions thot feel bod. You will likely
end up folking to ond doting women who you're not into being oround.

Moke ir inro o gqme.

ln those situolions the best tqctic is to leove when there's on opportunity

emotionol components to deoling with women; yes, ir feels like your ego

trc

do

Tolking to women is o gome. yes, there ore

is on the line oftentimes, but ir's only o gome. lfs not reor. lt's not o mor-

so.

ter of life ond deoth. There ore no reol consequences.

Stoy in communicqtion wirh friends qnd buddies. One of the


best woys to increose your skills with women is to hove o buddy you con

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fun ond enioying the gome? You con stort trocking your progress, doing

Be experimentol. You never know whot will work for you until you
try it. Port of being experimentol is trying new things. Be open to trying

things iusr for the hell of it, checking things oul knowing i/s not thot seri-

new things rother fhon dismissing them beforehond. Being experimentol

ous ond creoting your own rules.

meons you reolize thot you need to go through

o bunch of

interqctions

bebre one works so you might os well rry o bunch of stuff in rhe meontime.

Dqnce in the conversolion. Hove you hod the experience where


you were folking fo someone ond time iust seemed to stqnd still ond the

Perdops you check out "speed doting" or you onswer o personol


od, lusilrc

next thing you knew hours hod possed? ln those moments you were in

check it out. Moybe you check out

the flow, you were doncing in the conversotion. You were open ond free

women, or q yogo closs-onything our of the norm. The most successful

ond iusr reolly synched up with the other person. So how do you replicote thd experience? There is no cleor poth to doing it every doy or ol

seducers ore olwoys trying out nav things, coming up

will.

Just be open to doncing in o conversotion lodoy. The gool is to hove

o new

ploce where you might meet

wifi nal

opprooch-

es, checking out neur sociol opporfunities ond experimenting with nov
opprooches.

fluidity in your communicolion.


your gut. You need to storilrusting yourself when you inieroct with
women. We soy thot when you,re qttrqcted to o womon ond feel some
Trust

Hqve self-respect.

The problem with domoging your self-respect to

pursue o womon is thot it is selFreinforcing: the more your betroy your

own self-respect ond grovel to o

womon, the more likely you ore to

spork between the two of you, trust

fiot.

Trust your intuition with women.

Trust your gut when deoling with women

violote your self-respect with o womon, it orouses her contempl for you,

in oll phoses of seduction.


when o situqtion doesn't feel right get out of it. tf you meet o womon
ond something obout the interqction feels off, trust thot feeling. Trust

ond she will treot you even worse. lf you stoy oround for thot, she'll hurt

yourself.

betroy yourself ogoin the next lime. To moke motters worse, when you

you even more. You'll be left wondering why you-such o nice, understonding

will

guy-ore cought

up with o womon who treqts you so bodly. lt

oll be becouse you sold your self-respect for sex, which is o bod deol

ond olmost never octuolly gels you the girl.

Add urgency. one of the differences between

successfur ond unsuc-

cessful seducers is thot successful ones hove urgency in their seducrions.


successfr-rl seducers hove o gutsy quolity obout their lives where
they ploy

full-out ond reolize thot this could be their one ond only opportunity to
This doesn'i meon you should be meon lo o womon, go crozy or do ony-

seduce

thing else thot would domoge your self-respect. You iust hove to decide

quickly ond deliberotrely. You oct swiftly ond cut to the chqse. you go for
il. You iump in, You byposs the doubts ond the excuses ond
do it.

where the line is ond live with it intelligently.

o porticulor womon.

Urgency meons you go for il, you move

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This is not o proctice life; this is the reol thing' Adding
il' you osk
you osk her oul, you opprooch her rother thon worry obout
you get oul
for her number, you moke the cqll rother thon procrostinote,

life with
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rother thon to follow her commitment. Another woy ro soy this is to soy
thql women ore, on the whole, more committed to doing whot their emo-

tions fell them

fion they ore to keeping their word. Don'r

ler rhis drive

you crozy. h/s not bod, iust different from the woy you qre.

Women wont to be free to chonge lheir minds.

Women wont
to be oble to chonge their minds os much os they wont whenever they

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wont for whotever reoson ihey wont or for no reoson ot oll. This moy

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seem crozy

or illogicol toyou, but remember-she's following her feel-

hey
We've noticed thot mony of our students ore frustroted becouse
in the some
expect women trc oct the woy men do, ond to be motivoted

ings, not her verbol commitments.

o[ the rules
woy men ore. To help correct lhis, we've put trcgether this list

Women use hints snd innuendoes to tell you whot they


wonl. When you interoct with women, don,l expect them to be direct

ofwomen.

with you obout whot they wont. Once ogoin,

fiis

isn,t being screwed-

women who ore


These rules ore generolizotions; you will, of course, find

up, it's lust o difference in the woys men ond women do things. This

line is' your


exceptions to oll o[ lhem. Don't worry obout it' The boftom
os though these
interoctions with women will go more eosily if you oct

meqns thot when you osk women whot they wont you should provide o

rules ore lrue.

menu of options rother thon expecting them to generote ideos.

Women wonl life

fo be on unending dote. Women wont

not iust screwed-

things fo be romontic. ln some woys they prefer on emotionol roller-

os if they
up or illogicol men. They ore women' lf you relote to women
oct
screwed-up men, you'll olwoys be trying to moke women

coosler to o smooth ride. Another woy to soy this is to soy thoi women

Women qre nol ecrewed'uP men' Women ore


were iust

the woy you wish they would

hove o wide emotionol ronge ond wont lo express ii fully.

oct-thot is, the woy you would oct'

Women cqn be surprisingly meon. Mony

men who,ve gone

men ore

through o divorce hove found out how surprisingly meon women con

likely to
more likely to hove integrity to their word, women ore more

be. ln some woys this is becouse women ore more invested in the con-

feelings tell
hove integrity to their feelings. This meqns thqt i[ o womon's
do, such os
her to do something thot is controry to whot she soid she'd

cept of foirness thon men ore. while you don't expect life to be foir ond

Women hcrve o different inregrity fiom men' While

showing up for

o dole, she's likely to do whot her feelings tell her to

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don't think obout it much, the women in your life very well mighr. So if

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you feel shqfted, you might not do much obout it'..but if o womon feels
shofted, often she feels il's only foir lor her lo even lhe score ond toke
revenge.

Women wqnl whot they wont when lhey wonl it becquse

they wont it.

Asking o womon why she wonts somelhing-or, even

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worse, why she doesn't-is olwoys o mistoke. She wonts it becouse she
wonts il. Which, when you think obout it, is bosicolly true for you too.
Give her the spoce lo wonl whot she wonts when she wonts it becouse

By this poinf, you moy hove storted The Hi progrom.


lf you hove, how is

if it doesn't moke sense to

it going, interrupting women by soying hi ro them? Is it hord


or eosy?
Are you toking opportunities or not? Are you storting to see

she wqnts it qnd don't let it drive You crazY

you.

rhot there

ore o lot of women oround you oll the time whom you
usuolly tune out
ond ignore? Are you seeing opportunities ond purposefully
not toking
them? Or ore you one of those guys who soys, ,lV'ell,

soying hi to

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lf you ore reolly going to effectively use ihe tools in this book, you hwe

ic

women is going to be reolly eosy. rn focr, ir's so eosy thot


fomorrow."

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pur it off till

hove o sense of how trc hondle the "inner gome" of tolking lo women, os
well os the skill-bosed "ouler gome" of tolking

trc

them. You hqve to be oble

to hondle rhe chollenges provided by your own

issues with women, ond

your own foors. ln this chopter you hove storted lhol process. ln the next
chopter; you'll leorn how to hondle foor of reiection ond ponic. Once you

Not soying hi ond not interrupting women becouse ir's roo


eosy is o foirly stondord scom. Just reolize thot soying hi moy be more
inrimidoting
thon you thought. Accept thot foct, stop moking excuses
ond go ond soy
hi to some women.

hove those hondled, you'll be in o greot ploce for beginning to tolk to


women.

lnterrupiing women by soying hi, osking her

o queslion or using ony


other method will hove or leosr one cerroin consequence: some
percentoge of the time you will experience reiection. This probobly
doesn,t
come os such o huge shock, does it? you were probobly
thinking obout
it before this poinr '!V'oit o minute-if I soy hi ro women
ond interrupt
them, thoy'll shoot me down!" rnterrupting women, while
ir does leod to
success, will olso inevitobly leod to some reiection. lt
could be poinfull

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The problem with ovoiding poin by never inlerocting with women is thot

Romontic conversorions; sometimes you'll experience reiection there rrco.

you end up with o life in which you ore depressed ond lonely ond (por-

At every stap-getting her number; osking her out, going for thot first kiss,

odoxicolly) end up feeling reiecied oll the time ony,rroyl So it mokes

oll of

sense

lo leorn how to hondle reiection so you con minimize or

obliterote ihe impoct

even

ii hos on you ond thus interocf more freely with

it-you will

sometimes experience reiection. Knowing how fic hondle

it ond how tc keep moving forword, even in the foce of foor of reiecrion,
is criticol.

women. This choptrer will give you concrete octions ond steps you con
toke to deol with reiection powerfully. This trcol for hondling reiection

is

Becouse seduction is o numbers gome/ you'll wont to move firough


o lot

simple but it hos dromoticolly chonged our lives. Being oble to hondle

of women lo get to fhe eventuol yeses

reiection is the oil thqt lubricotes our system for tolking lo women. You
must leorn how to use it.

through those nos, those relections, os quickly ond efficienrry os you con
while keeping your spirits high. since we developed this rool, we,ve

Leorning to tolk to ond seduce women is o process, ond eoch step of thot

been oble to lough in the foce of reiecrion (ot leost some of the time),
deol with it ond move on without ir being o big problem (olmost oll of

process you risk reiection. When you interrupl women ond soy hi, you

the time). You must be oble to do this, too.

fiot you wont. you'll wonilo move

risk reiection. When you flirt wilh women, you risk reiection. When you
conduct Romonlic Conversotions, you risk reiection. When you osk for o

womon's phone number qnd emoil oddress, you risk reiection' When

you osk o womon for o Priming Dote, you risk reiection. When you go
on o Priming Dole, you risk reiection. When you go for q first kiss, you

we moke o lot of oppeoronces on rodio ond TV coll-in shows qnd we


receive emoil from o loi of men. The number one question we ger is
"How do I hondle reiecfion?" Here,s how you con do it the woy thot top
seducers do.

risk reiection. When you go for more, you risk reiection. Every step of
the woy, you ore risking reiection with women.

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When you first stort interrupting ond soying hi lo women, you ore like-

Le/s compore how men who consistently

ly to feel s1cpped by the women who reiect your interruptions. ln lime, you

tion with how relection is hondled by men who succeed

ly to be rejected

will get through

hot ond get into conversotions with women.

You will try

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the Fli*ing Moves; somelimes they'llwork, olher times they'll be reiected.


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First, let's toke o look ot how guys who foil with women hondle reiection

of oll of her friends iust ro tqlk obout the houmo thot Bob put
her

ond the feor of reiection. When Bob the bod seducer is reiected by o

through. He imogines thot his reputorion, such os it


wos, is ruined. He
tells himself fhor now "everyone will knov/' he wos
rrying to be o seduc-

womon, the first thing he does is moke thot womon into his "one-ond-

only hope" of ever hoving sex ogoin. He does this by ideolizing her:
"She wos so

prefi

er-ond

it's oll becouse he bungled things so bodly.

ond I never get to meet women like her. She hod the

whole pockoge-greot body, owesome tils, broins, o successful coreer.


She reolly could hove been 'the one'!"

And then Bob wonders why it tokes him four months to get
up rhe nerve
to opprooch onother womon, ond why torking ro women
is so incredibly hord.

The second thing Bob does is decide thot her reiection of him is his fqult.

He'll tell himself, "She reiected me becouse l'm so ugly ond l'm stupid.

Whol mokes me think l'd be ottroctive lo o womon like her, onywoy? l'm

sure, this is on exrreme exomple. But the weird thing is thot


ifs not oll
thqt unusuol. We've known mony men who do this-ond

nol otlroctive. All I om is o piece of shit. I know thot. Plus, whot I soid to

themselves on

her wos incredibly stupid. I reolly hondled it wrong. I reolly freqked her

eifher of us osked o womon our ond she soid no, or if


either of us tried

out. I should iust crowl bock into my hole ond die. l'll never succeed with

to kiss o womon ond she soid, ,,Oh, I only like you os friend,,,
o
we,d
go inio the whole "l suck, she wos so prefl;y', routine. We,d
moke her our

women. Why do I olwoys hove such bod luck with women? I suck."

But

woit-there's morel After evisceroting himself in step two, Bob, ond

unsuccessful seducers like him, tokes onolher key step loword using this

reiection to keep himself from ever toking

worse!-ro
o regulor bosis. Heck, we even used to be such guys. lf

one-ond-only hope, then soy, "rf only r were more onroctive


or luckier or
smorter or riche/' or whorever... Then we'd dwell in
the poin for doys
ond use lhot "foilure" ro moke ir even horder to opprooch
women ogoin.

o risk with o womon ogoin:

of it. Thot's right, ofter moking the womon inio

Just the other doy we irrlked to o guy who hod this problem.
He told us

"the perfect womon" ond moking the reiection completely his own foult

obout how he went bollroom-doncing o month ogo ond


o womon there
reiectred him. This wos o month ogo ond he wos
stirr recreoring the poin
of il, over ond over, on o doily bosis. He con,t even opprooch other

he wollows in the poin

ond coming up with on explonotion for the reiection thot is os poinful os


he con devise, brilliont Bob dwells in thol poin.

women becouse he's too busy reliving the poin of thot


one reiection.
He reploys the experience of being reiected over ond over, giving him-

You've probobly done this too.

self o new dose of emotionol poin every time he relives it. He imogines

the look on her foce when she reiected him ond thinks how upset she

People noturolly think thot they need ro know they


con survive whorever

musl hove been. He tells himself thot she no doubt convened o meeting

life might throw ot them. so in order to be sofe, when


o womon reiects
o mon, poil of him wonts to moke thot relection os bod os

possible so

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thot he knows he con survive il no motter how bod it gets. People coto-

they con only feel oll thot poin. once you'reoble to reverse thot process

strophize reiection ond moke it much worse thon it is to see if they con

ond hove experiences of being reiected thor oren'r upsetting, it will be


much eosier to iniliote more with women-ond to hove more success.

moke iilhrough. You ore probobly doing the some thing when you tqy
to moke sure you con survive the worsl possible explonotion obout why
o womon moy hove reiected you.

Now lel's look of reiection firough the eyes of q successful seducer.

Cotostrophizing probobly comes noturolly to humon beings. Think obout

When q successful seducer like Bruce encounrers reiection, he olso fol-

it. Which of our oncestors were more likely to survive-the ones who

lows o three-step process, olbeit o different one from Bob's. when Bruce

never worried obout ony'hing or the ones who worried constontly obout

encounlers reiection, the first thing he does is remind himself thot doting

things thot could go wrong ond who mode sure they were reody for ony

is

bod thing thoi might come olong? Obviously, the oncestors who worried

hope. sfotisticolly, whotever you do with o womon is probobry going to

obout possible future problems hod on edge on those who never worried.

foil onywoy becouse thot's iust life. He soys this to himself: "Greqr. Thofs
one more no I don't hove lo heor on my woy lo on inevitoble yes.,,

The some principle does not hold true when it comes to reiection. Those

second, Bruce comes up with on explonorion of her reiection thot does

who put themselves through the poin of reiection over ond over don'l

not moke it his fouh. specificolly, he creores on explonotion for the reiec-

men who don't think obout reiection. li's unneces-

tion thot is becouse of he4 not becouse of him. He moy soy to himself,
"She must be o lesbion" or "She must be ill,, or ,,Moybe her dog
iust

hove on edge on

fie

sory ond it doesn't help the slightest bit in getting you whot you wont

wifi women. ht

like Mork Twoin soid: "l've suffered mony horrible mis-

fortunes, mosl of which never hoppened'" You don't need lo hove o life

o numbers gome ond thot in no wqy is this womon his one-ond-only

died." lt doesn't motter whor it is os long os

ir,s somerhing thot his broin

con lotch on to thot isn't cotostrophic ond thot doesn,t involve him.

of horrible misfortunes thot never hoppened. Jusl becquse you con moke
something bod emotionolly doesn'f meet lhot you should. You ore not

Lefs spend q few moments tolking obour this strep becouse it is so impor-

obligofed to do so iust to prove thot you con survive it. Knowing this will

tont ond so hord for

help o lot in the oreo of reiection.

explonotion is horribly negotive ond poinful doesn't meon you ore

o lot of fie

men we work with. Just becouse on

required by low to believe ir. The truth is you hove no clue why she reiect-

One of the moin reosons thot tolking to women is so difficult for most
men is thot $ey've creoted so much emolionol poin -thonks to their woy

ed you. Moybe she wqs in o hurry. Moybe her cot died. Moybe she does-

of hondling reiection-thot when they think obout risking with women

worsi possible explonotion. Moke up something positive! lt reolly is


iust
os likely to be true or 3ome horrible explonotion tho/s oll obout you.

n't speok English. You don't know, ond it doesn'f serve you to believe the

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Guys so often think thot they ore oll-knowing ond omnipotent. But the

You musl not moke this mistoke. you must come up with
on explonotion

truth is you ore not the center of o womon's universe; she is the center of

for the reiection fhot is not obout you. Let's soy thor ogoin: you must
come up with on explonotion fhot is not obout you. Moke it her
prob-

her universe. The reosons why she does things ore more likely to be
obout her thon obout you. Bul it's incredibly common for o guy ttc think
thot o womon's world is obout him. He'll tell himself,

"l know why she

lem. Moke it

problem with the environment. rt doesn,t motter- just


moke it o problem thot hos nothing to do with you.

didn't soy hi bock. She could tell thot l'm o bod guy, thot I iust wont to
get in her ponts ond l'm only interesled in sex." Meonwhile, the guy isn't

importont enough to the womon for her to spend her processing cycles

on oll these detoils obout him. She's iust trying to moke it through the
doy, she hos incredible cromps, her feet hurt, she's mod ot her boss or
wholever.

lmogine you soid hi to the womon ot the grocery srore. she


didn,r soy
hi bock. Whot ore some explonotions thot hove nothing to do
with you?
"She iust got stobbed wifh o pencil in her leg.,, ,,She,s suffering
from

omnesio." "She iusl got out of the hospitol.,, ,,She,s been here since
5
o.m. ond is exhousted." ,,She,s hoving her period.,, lt doesn,f motier.
come up with some explonotion. one thot works reolly well is

"oh,

Believe it or not, the womon who reiected you does hove o life outside

guess she's just reolly in her own world." Usuolly i/s true.
Usuolly women

of you. And thot life is much more likely to be the reoson thot she reiecF

ore iust cought up in their own world-ofrer oll, everyone

is.

ed you thon is her obility ond inclinotion to see into your soul ond divine

whot o scummy guy you ore. She's iust not thot interested in you. She
hos problems of her own.

Now

the third ond finol step. Afler Bruce reminds himself thot doting
is o numbers gome ond fiol she wosn'r his one-ond-only
hope

ond ofter

he comes up with on explonotion for her behovior thot hos


nothing to

DAVID: l'm thinking obout o time o few yeors ogo when I thought I wos

do with him, he redirects his focus toword something empowering.

reiected by o womon. I soid hi to her ond mode some olher remork

ond she iust trotolly blew me off. She ignored me complebly ond

once ogoin, you ore not required by low to dweil in your suffering
ond
experience the poin of reiection over ond over ogoin
becouse you

wolked owoy. I wos left thinking thot I must hove done something

iusr

wrong. I felt like o trchl wodhless bum. I mentioned fiis incident to o


friend of hers who osked me, 'lVere you on her left?" I soid yes,
wos. He soid,

'Vell,

con. smort seducers think obout something else-onything else. pick


up
q newspoper; listen to the rodio, go wotch
W, go on o wolk, go flirt with

she's very hord of heoring in generol ond con't

qnother

womon-do something, but do it insrontoneousry, ond

your-

self get into doing it. The longer you woir, rhe more likely it is
you will

when l'm tolking to her." lt turned out she hqdn't heord me! The

dwell in your poin. You've gof to keep moving.

"reiection" hod nothing to do with me ot oll. I thought, '!Vhy didn't

come up with thot explonotion?"

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heor in her left eor ot oll. I olwoys moke sure to be on her right

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One greol ottention-redirecting question is 'lVhot do I wont to do right

You probobly know

now?" Often this question will help refocus the energy of the reiection

impervious to reiection. When you're ot o bor with him, you


notice thot
nothing stops him. After he,s reiected by o womon, he,ll soy trc
,,Oh

into some octivity thqt is useful to you. One mon we know wos fli*ing
online with o womon whom he hod previously hod sex with ond whom

o guy who does oil this outomoticoily. He seems


you,

he wos hoping to get into bed with ogoin. At one point in their lnstont

well, she threw o drink in my foce-r guess [m on to the next


one. Ho
hol" You've probobly wondered how he did it. weil, this is how. He

Messoge conversotion, she storted telling him obout this new guy she

remembers ir's o numbers gome ond

hod met ond obout how he hod come over for o night of hot sex the

thoilhd rejecfion wos iust one more


no he didn't hove trc heor ogoin on his woy to the inevitoble yes.
He
mokes the reiection her problem ond then redirects his oilenrion
by moving on to fhe nextwomon (or onything else). Thus he evenruolly

evening before.

succeeds.

Noturolly, he felt reiected. So first he reminded himself thot doting is o


numbers gome ond thot this womon wos not his one-qnd-only hope.
Second, he mode the reiection her problem by exploining to himself thot

Remember thot you hove to do oll three steps; you con't just
do the one
you like the best. Lefs go over rhese three sreps one more rime

she wos o very unsloble olcoholic (which wos true| ond wos probobly

give you some more exomples:

ond then

drunk right then. Third, he redirected his ottention by osking himself,

'

'lVhot do lwont to do right now?"


He reolized thot he wonted lo stop tolking to this womon ond onswer
some personols ods. So tho/s whot he did. He wos oble to use the ener-

gy of the reiection to odvonce his whole

seduction system, ond it

worked. He stopped thinking obout the reiection ond got into thinking

obout new opportunities with women.

The importont thing is thot you redirect your ottention to something spe-

Remind yourself thor doting is o numbers gome ond thor this

womon wqs not your one-ond-only hope for sex. Remember thot
this is one more no on the woy to the inevitoble yes.

creote on explonotion for the rejection thot hos nothing to do with


you. Moke it o problem with her or o problem wirh the environmenl but not o problem with you.
Redirect your ottention. Find something else ro think obout
or do.

Ask yourself, 'lVhot do I wont to do right now?,, to give yourself


ideos for things you con use the energy from the reiection
to do.

cific. l/s not enough to tell yourself, "Don'l think qbout lhe reieclion"
wifiout putting some other octivity into its ploce. You need to think obout
something specific or you'll iust end up thinking obout the reieclion you

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Now let's look ot some exomples of Ron ond Dovid cooching eoch other
os eoch pretendr trc hove some trouble with rhis process.

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DAVID: Greot. How obout fhe fiird step, which is redirecting your

DAVID: So, whot hoppened?

ottention? Did you find yourself iust noturolly going over it ogoin

RON: I wos eoting lunch ond I went up to this womon behind the
counter who wos reolly hot. I soid, "Hi, my nome is Ron, how ore

you doing?" And she iust turned owoy ond she didnt tolk to me.

ond ogoin in your heod?

RON: Yeoh, I did ot first. So I decided to chonge my focus instonto-

neously-to reod the poper, eot o bogel-to do whotever there

She iust wenl ond did something else.

wos to put my ottention on. I inierrupted the bod feeling os quickly

DAVID: Did you tell yourself thot i/s o numbers gome?

os possible.

RON: Right, I could hove done thot. I could soy to myself, "Hey, doling is o numbers gome. lt's not like there oren't 20 women in this
ploce right now. I gol upset becouse this one didn't work

out-l

don't need to do thot. Also, thofs iust one more reieclion I don't

Do you get whot we're tolking obout here? This reolly is obout leorning

q "menlol move." This is not


iust something theoreticol. This

is something

octuol thot cqn dromoticolly chonge your life.

hove to experience ogoin on ihe woy lo the inevitoble yes."

DAVID: Whol wos the first thing thd you did? Did you blome yourself
or whot?

RON: So, tell me whot hoppened.

RON: I thought, well, ieez, she's so hot, why isn't she tolking to me? I
must hqve blown it in some woy. Did I soy the wrong thing? Am I

DAVID: I went on o dote with this girl. She wos reol pretty; I reolly
liked her. We hod onother dote plonned, but she sent me on emoil
soying she's still reolly in love with her ex-bofriend ond she,s

o ierk? Whot hoppened?


DAVID: So there's o woy in which you blomed yourself ond mode the
reoson for the reiection obout you' Whol ore some of the reosons

why she might hove totolly blown you off thot hove nothing to do
with you? Just generote some of lhose'

gone bock to him ond they ore living together ogoin ond she
doesn't wont to go out with me ofter oll. She soid she hoped we

could still be friends.

RON: Hmm, nothing cruel obout thot, eh? So first of oll-whot wos
the first thing thot you did?

DAVID: I thought, "God, you know, thot wos such o pretty girl ond we

RON: Well, obviously she wqs working, so perhops she hod some
work to do. Thot might hove been one possibility. Or perhops

she

went on thot dote ond the dote went so well ond she hod so much

wos in o hurry or moybe she's not supposed to tolk to customers.

cleovoge ond I loved her hoir ond there reolly oren,f thot mony

Or she moy nol hove felt very good-it wqs the oft'ernoon, moybe

women who reolly ore thot pretty."

she wos

Now let's wotch Ron cooch Dovid through the reiection process.

tired-or perhops she wos

iust in her own world.

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RON: So you storied beoting up on yourself.

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DAVID: Yeoh, like she wos lhot "one-ond-only hope."

DAVID: so, dwelling on it. yeoh-mooning ond rhinking


obout it over

RON: So, you foiled lo remember thot il's o numbers gome. Whot

ond over ond telling oll my friends obour this horribre rejection...

obout the next step? Whol hoppened next?

But whot I could hove done wos soy, ,,Greot, whot


do I wont to

DAVID: I could hove soid, "Of course! Stotisticolly, tho/s gonno hop-

focus on right now? How con I toke some of the energy


l,ve got

pen o certoin omount of time. Thofs the kind of thing thot hoppens

in seducing. Thot's one more no I don't hove lo heor on the woy to


yes. I gol pretty for with her, lefls see who/s next."

right now ond put if to

use?,,

RON: So long os you redirect your energy in some woy.


DAVID: Yeoh, just doing this I feel much befier, more energized.

RON: Whot did you moke il meon? Whot wos your inlerpretolion?
Why did she send you this emoil?

You need to retroin yourself to hondle reiection properly.

we hove done
this to the point where it is outomotic. When we ger reiecred,
our broins

DAVID: Well, tho/s becouse she couldn't even beor to see my foce.
l'm so hideous thot I drove her bock to her ex-bofriend! I knew

immediotely respond bmouse we hove been working


on it for yeors.

this would hoppen! This olwoys hoppens to mel Why does this
sort of thing olwoys hoppen to me? Why don't women like me?

l'm iust not lovoble. l'll never hove the girl I wont! All I con hove

is

fot women! I suck!

RON: Okoy, okoy-eveqybody is feeling sick now! Now chonge the


interpretotion. Whot would be some olher reqsons why she did
thot?

DAVID: Well, she's reolly mixed up right now. Moybe she is reolly in
love with her ex-bofriend. Thot doesn't hove onything to do with

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DAVID: one rhing fiorwe hove found ro be incredibly helpful
in deoling with the inevitobility of o certrrin omounr of reiection
is pufting o
percentoge likelihood on onything thot moy hoppen.
Soy Ron is get_

go out for o dote ond I soy, ,Whot do you think the


odds ore thot you ore going to hove sex with her tonight?,,
ond he
ting reody

trc

me. Whot om I going to do, go knock him off or something?

soys, "Oh, 20 or 30 percenf or something like thot.


Or soy you,re

Moybe she is reolly confused. And you know whot? She wosn't

going out on o priming Dote ond osk yourself, ,Whot do


you think
qre
the odds
thot she,s going to show up?,,

thot hot! h/s not like there oren't hundreds ond thousonds of
women oround who ore thot hol ond hotter! She's not thot hot o

The onswer might be

something like

'Oh, I give it obout Z0

percent.,,

commodity.

RON: Okoy, cool. So the third port of

il-did

you dwell on it?

For some reoson/ putting percentoges on things seems


ro creote some
kind of "reolily conversqlion,, oround them. you might soy, ,,Greol,

theret o womon ocross the bor. There's o five percenr probobility


thot

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could end up hoving sex with her tonight. Thot's one in

20-oll

I need is

20 her ond l'm golden!" lt mokes il eosier to opprooch o womon ond


less of o problem if things don't work out. Hey, there wos o five percent

chonce; no big deol thot it didn't work out. And o couse for celebrotion
when it doesl

Percentoges ond probobilities ore onother woy to boil your interoction

with o womon down to something tongible. So insteod of it being this


whole big scory ihing, you soy,'lVell, look*there's

o l0

percent

chonce it will go. No big deol."

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The best woy to become expert ot hondring
reiection is to procrice the
reiection process. lf you ore doing the Hi progrom
(you ore doing the Hi

Progrom, oren't you?), it will give you o loborotory


in which to experi_
ment with the reiecfion process. When women
don,t

soy hi bock or when


they scowl or give you ony orher response
thot you consider o reiection,

proctice the releciion process. Firsf, remind


yourself thot ifs o numbers
gome ond thot this is one more no you
don't hove to heqr ogoin on your
woy to the eventuol yes. second, come up with on
expronotion for
the

DAVID: Yep, with thot girl lwos telling you obout, I gove it o 50-50
chonce thot she would go bock to her ex-boyfriend, becouse of the

woy thot she wos tolking obout him. Tho/s whot occurred. Those ore
the numbers. Thofs

fie gome.

lt mokes the trcsk of reloting trc women

eosier.

if the interoction doesn't work out. They think,

"Greot, I hove o 90 percent chonce with thot womon ocross the bor."
Well, you olmosl never hqve o 90 percenl chonce with o womon. You
musl mqke o more reolistic probobility stotement.

We use this tool in every oreq of our lives. Whot ore the odds of

us geF

ting fhis new book deol? Soy we think i/s 40 percent. lf so, oll we need
is

tion, perhops by osking yourself, ,Whot do


I wont to do righr now?,,
Here ore some tips for leorning the process:

wrire il down.

Very often guys storl oul overly optimistic obout their chonces, so they're

even more devostoted

reiection thot hos to do with her, nor you.


And third, redirect your oren-

o little more thon possible deols ond ir'll be likely thotwe'll hove o deol

going. This is something for you to ploy oround with. lt moy be useful

rt reolly herps if you write down the reiection


process

os you do it. The reoson

i/s imporicnilo write it down is thor doing it in


your heod is deceptive, especiolly ot first. lt/s
eosy fo do o sloppy ond
incomplete iob if you ore
iust thinking your woy through fhe three-srrep
process. You will think you hove done the
process, but you octuoily wiil

not hove-you will hove thought obout doing


it, which your mind wiil
misinterpret os hoving octuolly gone through
the process for reor. Writing
down the reiection process gets it out of the reolm
of the obstrod ond inro
the reolm of the reol.

You moy wont to corry oround o pen ond


some poper so thot you con

for you to ossign probobilities to things iust to moke different oreos of


your life cleorer ond more like o gome.

grob o minute or lwo ond write down the process


os you go through
your doy. some of our studenrs do rhe process
in their heods during the

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doy ond then spend five minutes in the evening writing down ond clor-

friends, do the fhree-step process. You need to proctice ond hove it be

ifying whot they did in their heods eorlier. Some men set oside o couple

so ingroined in your mind thot you


iust do it ony rime you need ro. This
will keep you going ond keep you from getting stuck, ond thot is olt thor

of minutes twice o doy to write down fieir processes.

motlers.

After you've written it down o number of times, you won't need to wrile

ir unfil you get nesults. oftentimes if you use the reiection

it down so much onymore, olthough we still write it down on occosions

Do

when reiections seem to get to us more thon they ought to.

process thoroughly you will feel completely better. sometimes you'll feel

90 percent better or even only 50 percent better. Thor's oll okoy-i/s


Prqctice befiore you moke the opprooch. Of course, you don't

moving in the right direciion, ond thots whqfs importont.

hove to woit to experience reiection lo use this process. You con olso use

feor of rejection trying to slop you. Tell yourself, "lf this doesn't go the

Whot is not occeptoble is doing the reiection process ond feeling zero
percent, one percent or lwo percent betier. you oren't done with the

woy I wont il to, I simply hove lo remember thot doting is o numbers

process until you feel substontiolly better ond hove some energy to move

gome ond thot this will be one more no on the woy to my eventuol yes.
So even if she soys no lo me, this interoction will get me closer lo my

on to something else. lf you find you don't feel better, go through the
process ogoin. Remind yourself thot doting is o numbers gome; reolly

gool. Also, if she reiects me, it will probobly be becouse she is in her

feel how you've iust heord one more no thor you'll never need to heor

own world or hos o heodoche todoy or something like thot. lf she does-

ogoin. come up with new, more compelling reosons thot moke the reiec-

n'i work out, l'll go tolk to thot other womon over there. Piece of coke,

l'm reody to go!" This will prime your broin qnd put the interoction in

tion her problem, not yours. Find something thot you reolly wqnt to do
ond thot engoges your focus. And keep doing this until you feel some

perspective. So whot if it doesn't work? Eventuolly one {ond more) will.

emotionol movement. Until thot hoppens, you reolly oren't finished with

it when you ore thinking obout opprooching o womqn ond you feel the

the reiection process.

Do ir doily. As with ony skill, it is much eosier to mosler

hondling

reieclion if you proclice the three-step process on o doily bosis. lf you


soy hi to o womon ond she ignores you, do the three-step process. lf you

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fli* with o \ /omon ond il doesn't go well, do the three-step process. lf


you osk o womon out for coffee ond she soys no, do the three-step

The only circumstonce under which you will not need ro moster the reiec-

process. lf you go for the first kiss qnd she soys she iust wonls to be

lion process is if you ore nor getting reiected-ond if you ore nor geiling
reiected you ore not doing enough interruptions ond initiorions wirh
women ond you orc much less likely to succeed with them.

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Thot's so imporlont we'll soy

it ogoin: getting reiected is o good sign

becouse it meons thot you ore toking oction with women, toking risks

ond doing whot you hove to to creole obundont relotionships with


women in your life. Remember our student who soid hi to more thon 300
women in o week in his ultimotely successful quest to get sex ond o girlfriend? He soys,

"l

mode use of the rejection tools on o doily bosis. lt

in the flow, rother thon something thot rokes them out of the gome.
we've heord rumors thot hockey god Gordie Howe would puke in the
locker room before every gome. He would be overcome with onxiety,
but he leorned how to feel the feor ond go for it onyvoy. our hope is
thot you loo con leorn how ro honsform your feor ond use it to your
odvontoge.

kept me olive os I went through lots of women till I found whot I wos
looking for." These tools con help you too.

Lefs get reol: if there's one thing thor generotrss ponic, i/s going
up to

women ond tolking to fiem. one of

fie

hordesf things to do is to initi-

ote inleroction with o womon in o ploce like o bor or the street when you

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You need to leorn how to hondle the inevitoble onxiety ond feor thot

her.

Feor hits eoch mon differently. Feor occurs on o spectrum, from


onticipotoqy feor like butterflies in your stomoch ond slight nervousness to

comes up when you opprooch ond tolk lo women. Experiencing feor in

ollout ponic ond totol terror. We've worked with men on oll points of the

these situotions is very common, so we're going to teoch you some bosic

spectrum. The tools in this section ore for men who hove

skills to overcome ponic ond onxiety.

mib or smoll
omounts of ponic. lf you suffer from oll-out ponic ottocks with women,

Mony of us mistokenly think there ore men out $ere who ore seduclion

you need to look deeper, perhops fo onti-onxiety medicotion or theropy.


We ore not theropists or doctors, ond hondling ponic is not our oreo of

mosters who never experience ony feor ond con go up to ony womon

expertise' We con tell you thot if you hove ponic ottocks there is help.

ot ony time ond seduce them. The truth is thot we oll get scored ond feor-

we've hod mony students overcome extreme onxiety with women by

ful when opprooching women. We often get scored when opprooching

combining theropy, medicotion ond our moteriols.

women for the first time, qnd so do oll of our studenls. The point is to

leorn how to hondle onxiety ond ponic ond opprooch women even

Here ore o few tools for you to leorn ond proctice. The more you con

when you feel nervous.

proctice them when you'reolone in q womon-free environment, the


eosier it will be to use them when you,re obout to opprooch o womon.

Mony top othletes experience feor ond nervousness before going into o

big gome, but they've leorned lo use feor to their odvontoge. They've

Breothing. Men ore

leorned to use the feor os o molivolor, os somelhing thot helps tham gci

or whon they do breothe they toke shollow breoths. proctice breothing

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deeply. Deep breothing is the fundomentol skill in overcoming ponic

fiing thot

Recolling q time you fult powerful ond confidenr.

This will

chonges is his

offect your posture ond breothing, ond your overoll sense of confidence

breothing. lt becomes shollow ond increoses in speed, ond oll of o sud-

with women. stort by recolling o time when you reolly hod bolls, when
you feorlessly went for something ond produced on extroordinory result.

becouse when

person gets tense the first

den his body shifts into fight-or-flight mode. When you breothe ropidly

ond shollowly, your broin is olso offected; you think less cleorly ond
enter o spirol thot leods to more ponic. The trick is lo stort deep breoth-

ing before you get neryous oround women ond to continue deep breothing when you opproqch women.

When you recoll o fime you felt powerful, you don,t hove to drow on o
situotion where you felt powerful with women. lr could be o footboll
gome/ o roce you won/ when you osked for o roise, o greot speech you
gove or ony moment of victory in your life. lt's o woy to boost your con-

Here's how you

do ih proctice breothing slowly ond fully into your

obdomen. We recommend you breothe in ond count to four ond then

o few minutes of

fidence. lfs o woy for you lo tell yourself, ,yes, l,ve got bolls, l,ve done
stuff thot is omozing, I con do this-no question obout it, no doubt.,,

deeply, you should be much colmer. Proctice this on o doily bosis so thot

We've oll hod momenls where we,ve performed beyond whot we


thought our copobilifies were. And you, yes, you, hove hod rhose

you con slow down your breoth ot will.

momenls too.

Visuolizing. Sto* by closing your

eyes ond breothe deeply for five or

lf you toke o few seconds trc recoll o time you were powerful, you'il

bd

seconds. Next, imogine o reloxing scene. Moybe you imogine you're

lot more powerful when you opprooch o womon. Remember

lhose

breqthe out while counting to four. After

l0

breothing

in bed or on the beoch; moybe it/s your boyhood home or your fovorite
nolure

spot-it doesn't reolly

motter.

All thot motters is thot it onchors o

moments ond use your post success to fuel your confidence with women
trcdoy.

feeling of colm, sofety ond reloxqtion. lt sounds silly, we reolize, but it

Strefching. When you feel shessed ond

octuolly works.

tense, your body in rurn trens-

es up. Affer you hove done some deep breothing ond visuorized success,

Visuolizing o colm scene iust before you go up ond tolk to o womon

is

ifs olso useful to srretch your body to help it relox. stond up ond toke o

very usefi,'l in getting yourself into o reloxed, ployful mode. The cool porl

few minutes to stretch your body from heod to toe. Breothe os you do it.

is thot you con use the some reloxing scene over ond over ogoin, which

The next time you're stressed ond wonr to opprooch o womon/ go into

will help you stoy colm. You con keep recolling lhot scene eoch time you

o corner or go outside ond stretch for o few minules.

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Ghonging your thoughts. lf you ore like

most guys, the moment

visuolizing someone you trust.

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you moy find it colming fo pic-

before you ore going to trclk to o womon your thoughts get ugly-reol

fure someone you trust ond imogine them offering you suppod ond

ugly. You ihink obout oll your post foilures, oll the woys in which you

encourogement. Think of Ron Louis ond Dovid copelond. We ore on


your teom. We ore here to encouroge you.

suck, oll the reosons you're o foilure with women. ln the foce of oll thot

self-flogellotion, who con be successful? Troin yourself to think obout


something pleosont, even fun, when you're oround women. Think obout

visuolize onybody who hos been o supportive figure in your life. Who

food, sporls, sex/ your fovorite movie, whotever. When you hel stressed

ore the supportive figures in your life now? who ore your best friends?

ond nervous, thinking obout something you enioy will help perk you uP

lmogine they ore there behind you, on your teom, encouroging you to
go up ond tqlk to thot womon you,re scored to tolk to.

so you con hove fun.

Nol roking your thoughts so seriously. We oll think crozy stuff


sometimes. But iust becouse you hove o thought one moment doesn'l

You con even imogine thot someone like John Trovolto (in his role in the

meon you ore going lo hove it the next. We heor thot people who med-

is supporting you. Just imogine they ore there behind you

itote for yeors ond yeors often comment thot they get io o ploce where

"Come on, you con do it, you con do it. We hove totol foith in you!,, This

they stop toking their thoughts, feelings ond body sensolions seriously.

lechnique works very well in building up your confidence.

movie Gef shortyl, o rock sto4 someone you odmire or o politicol figure
soying,

They reolize thot ot every moment there ore new thoughts ond sensotions possing through their body, ond thot's iust life.

Toking q wqlk.

Leove wherever you ore ond wolk oround the block

for o few minutes. While you're out, do some deep breorhing ond enioy
The experience of meditqlors suggests thot we ore olwoys in o stote of

the fresh oir. And while you're wolking, think obour someone you enioy

flux. One momenl we might be foeling extreme leor ond the next
moment the feor will turn into something difhrent. You ore olwoys

being oround or on experience thot is pleosont. you moy wonr ro wolk


veqy briskly to chonge your internol sfote ond get your blood pumping.

chonging, so one woy to be reloxed is to think, "l'm nol going to hove

Toking o wolk con be reolly useful in chonging your internol store, cleor-

this ponic thought for more thon o minute or lwo; then it will chonge.

ing your heod ond colming you down enough to opprooch the womon

Remind yourself thot your thoughts ond body sensotions ore nol reol ond

you reolly wont to opprooch

don't need to dictote your behovior.


We olso recommend thor you get oerobic exercise of leost rhree rimes o
week. Men who tend

trc

hwe ponic ond onxiety con greotly decreose their

shess level by regulorly getting moderote omounrs of oerobic exercise.

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Leorning tqi chi or yogq.

Leorning some toi chi, chi kung or yogo

postures con help you remoin colm. Mony students hove reported thot

leorning toi chi or yogo is greotly useful in leorning to stoy colm. You

con pick up books on these types of exercise or toke courses. Since toi
chi, chi kung ond yogo tend to be meditotive, students often find they
con use the skills to stoy colm in their doily lives, porticulorly in stressful

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Drinking heovily.

Just kidding. You con try this mefiod, but it will

usuolly bockfire. Perhops you'll colm down, but you might olso become

As we've soid before, there is o srep-by-srep sequence


of events in
seducing o womon. As you reorn ihe skiils for frirting
ond torking
to

o belligerent jerk. You need to gouge how often ond how much you

women ond proctice them with women, you'll probobly


find it helpful to

drink so thot you con feel confident qnd orticulote ond think cleorly

remember the phoses of seducing o womon.

when you're oround women.


The first phose
There ore o lot of other things thot you con do to relox. These ore iust o

few thot should be helpful. lf there ore proclices you use to decreose

of seducing o womon is getting yourserf reody. you

olwoys need to be getfing your mind creor ond determining


if onything
is stopping you. lf there,s o post reiection stopping

your onxiety, keep doing them. lf you heor of ofier exercises, definitely

you, you must get


over it (see the previous two chopters). you musr ger
your mind creor;

try them. The point is lo find proctices you con toke on to remoin colm

remember ond celebrote your posr victories


ond get yourself into o peok

ond relqxed when you tolk to women.

performonce srqre. You must be reody for possibre


reiecrion, ond hove
hondled your ponic' Wherher you're on o coffee
dote, obou*o soy hi
lo o womon or going for o first kiss, you ore orwoys
going to be botiling
yourself ond your own frome of mind. Thots phose
one.

Feeling tense ond ofrqid is perfectly normol, but hoving tools to overcome your feor is whot's most importont. Proclice o few of lhese moves

before opprooching women ond your confidence will greotly improve.


The second phose of seducing o womon is
inrerrupting her ond gefiing
Ponic ond onxiety is something thot con be controlled. lf you suffer from

this problem, no motter where you qre on the ponic speclrum, lhere
hope.

is

her ottention. You must initiorre wirh women, ond it


tokes guts to do thot.
It tokes gurs ro initiote the first kiss. lt tokes guts to
initiote getting her
phone number ond emoil oddress. rt tokes guts
rrc initiote everything.

And

thofs your iob. Never foil to remember thot ir's your


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Before we get into the specific tolking ond flirting skills, there ore o few

is when you ore hoving o conneciion with somebody in which she feels

generol concepts we should cover: the three time fromes of on interqc-

like you underslond her, she feels like she understonds you ond you iust

tion wifh o womon, leoving her wonting more ond other foctors in how

will help you

you oppeor to o womon.

sees you os o

potentiol romonlic portner. This involves light sensuolity.

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Finolly, the fifth phose is getting inlo more "heovy''sexuol stuff. You storF

lf you ore going to succeed in tolking to o womon, you need to know

ed by getting yourself reody, interrupting her, developing ropport ond

iust how urgent the situotion with her is. Every mon hos hod o wonder-

moking her see you os o romontic possibility. Now you ore initioting thol

ful womon wolk out of his life forever becouse he wosn't conscious of

nexi foroy inlo sexuol contoct.

how urgenl it wos to toke o risk with her right then. Understrrnding the

hove

nice conversotionol flow. The skills in this book

occomplish this.

The fourth phose introduces

o physicol connection. She

three time fromes of on interoction will help keep thot from hoppening.

Although this book focuses on tolking lo women, for more informotion


on doting you con reod How to Succeed wilh Women ond visit our web

You only hqve q few minutes. ln this situotion you only hove o

site of www. howtosucceedwithwomen.com'

few minules, or moybe iust o few seconds, to moke contocr. you ore on
o troin or in o line ond this is your one-ond-only chonce. you soy hi to

During o typicol interoction with o womon, you ore going to go through

her ond it leods to o conversotion. You hove to get her number or emoil

stoges one through five over ond over ogoin. You ore olwoys going to

oddress right then. lf you blow it, she is going to be gone-lirerolly. ln

come bock to your stote of mind ond getting yourself prepped. You ore

this situotion you hove to cut to the chose quickly. you hove to risk o lot

olwoys interrupting her on o deeper ond deeper level.

to get her phone number or emoil oddress or ilrs oll over.

But these phoses con olso hoppen out

of sequence. You ore conslontly

one of our students told

us obout being in one of these situqtions recently

going in os deep os you con go ond then bockpedoling. You go in ond

while in line ot the post office. There wos o pretfy girl who wos olso in line

you ore holding honds ond you stop holding honds then you go bock

who mode eye contrcct with him severol fimes. He soid hi ond they storted

into the interruption phose. You might be moking out ond oll of o sud-

trc

chot, but her furn come up ot the counrer ond she wos drown owoy.

den find yourself bock in the ropport-building phose. A dote is unpredictoble. You hove to let thot flow hoppen.

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Alter she finished her business ond wos leoving, he got out of line ond

You con olso look ot this os

followed her inlo the lobby. "Excuse me," he soid, "but I iust got ihe

loke more risk when you osk for the number of o womon you ore in line
with thon you do to get her number when you see o womon twice o

strong feeling thot I ought to soy hi lo you. I know il seems slronge, but

I iust hod this feeling obout you. Could I hove your emoil oddress, ond

o risk specrrum. For insronce, you hove ro

week in your oerobics closs.

perhops we could get logefier somelime?" He hod o brief window of


opportunity ond he needed to toke o big risk, so he took it. lf he hodn't,
she would hove been out of his life forever.

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You hqve q fuw hours.

l/s best to leove o womon wonting more. Thot meqns ifs beiter if your
conversotions with her ore shod.

This is o situotion like on oll-doy seminor,

o porty or o work-reloted octivity where you know the womon you ore
interested in is going to be oround for

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o little while. You don't hove to

risk it oll right owoy; you con offord to woit, to toke smoll risks with her
over o few hours rother thon toking o reolly big risk oll ot once.

Thofs not how mosr guys flirt wirh women. wirh most guys, if on interoction with o womon is going well, they push it ond keep tolking until
something bod hoppens. only when rhere's o problem or bod feeling

You hove days, weeks or longer.

This is the woitress you con go

bock ond see over ond over or lhe womon in your oerobics closs who
olwoys works out ol
much more

5 p.m. on Tuesdoys ond

with the womon do they sfop. Thot meons they olwoys monoge ro end
their interoctions with women on sour notes. Thofs bod.

Thursdoys. You con risk

sloily with these women ond build o conneclion over lime.

Knowing these three lime fromes helps you know how much you must

These guys think, '!V'ow, this is going greot. Therefore, l,m not going
to

try to get her number qnd close the deol, r'm


iusr going to keep rorking.,,
T
Or they think, V'ow this is going greot. Therefore, l,m not going to

risk ond how quickly you must do so. lf you ore putting gosoline into

come bock ond tqlk to her more loter; l'm going to stoy here qnd be

your cor ond the womon of the nexl cor is otlroctive qnd you wont to

omozed thot i/s going well until she inevitobly gets bored. when she
gets bored I will get tense ond then when r get tense I will mess evelrthing up ond she will finolly soy, ,Oh, I hove to leove.,,,

tolk to her then you hod better risk o lot right then, becouse she is obout

to disoppeor from your life. On the other hond, if thot some womon
shows up ot on eight-week closs you ore toking, you don't hove lo risk

big right owoy by going for her phone number or emoil oddress.

You

con risk big if you wont, but you cqn olso toke smoller risks ond seduce
her over time.

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tro

leove while things

so

you con feel your voice originoting from deeper in your body rother
thon exclusively from your throot ond heod. This will give your voice

ore going well. ond leqve her wonting more.

Your

Proctice breothing from deeper in your body. Breothe more deeply ond
let your stomoch go in ond out os you do. Then toke o deep breoth

fli*ing interoctions need to be long enough to give her o pleosur-

more resononce ond moke il for more ofiroctive to listen to.

oble experience qnd leove her wonting to see you ogoin. lf i/s going
well, don't breok the rules-get out of there on o high note so she's left

Adiusr your tempo. Over the next doy or

wonling more of you, nol tired of you ond wonting

owore of the speed ot which you tolk. some men tork so quickly thot

less.

so, let yourself become

they're exhousfing for women to listen to. lf you tend to ,,speed rop,, peoThot is olso o woy to keep yourself empowered. lf you stop your flirting

ple, you need to proctice slowing down. lf you notice yourself tolking

interoctions wilh women while they qre still fun, you con be hoppy oboul

reolly quickly, pouse ond toke o deep breoth. sometimes blinking slow-

how well it wenl.

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By the some token, we've worked with some men who tolk so

ponderously thot it's hypnotic-ond exceptionolly

sroily ond

boring-ro listen to

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o little more onimoted in your speoking. Breothing more deeply will help

As you stort using the iechniques in his book, you'll noturolly begin to

find yourself in conversotions with women. Lel's go over o few pointers

with this, qs will ollowing yourself ro express more of your exciremenr


when you ore tolking to people. proctice sounding more excited when

obout sounding ond looking good.

you tolk with people ond see how it feels.

Breqthe more deeply.

Mqke eye contocf.

As we mentioned before, mony men breothe

into ond speok from their upper chests ond throots. This gives their voic-

es

nosol sound ond

it

mokes them sound tense when they tolk io

women.

the floor, you ore going to be unottrocrive to women.

while your inter-

oction with o womon should not be o storing conrest, do mointoin some


eye contocl with her.

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'tVhofs the story behind thot?" is obout noticing the detoils of

ond we've gone over some other fundomentols/ we con stort teoching

womon's oppeoronce ond moking those deroils topics of conversotion.

you the specific flirting skills.


This is eosy to do if you understond women's reloiionship to detoils. The
There ore two greot things obout these flirting skills. First, they fit togeth-

world of v/omen is in the detoils. she works hord on the detoils of her

er reolly well. Once you understond ond stort to use these skills, you'll

oppeoronce. Noticing fhose detoils ond complimenting her on them

see how you con flow from one lo onother ond reolly hove

o romontic,

is

extremely seductive, ond ifls something you con eosily leorn to do in

fun, flirtotious, genuine, nonmonipulotive interoction with o womon.

your conversotions with

Second, these skills ore eminently leornoble. You con leorn the bosics

Noticing ond ocknowledging detoils obour o womon seporotes you from

quickly, proctice them, review your progress ond get good ot them. They

other men. Mosl men don't see detoils, or if they do, they don,t comment

oren'l mogic; you don'l hove to be superchorismolic mon or o noturolly

on lhem. Noticing detoils sets you oport from the crowd. lt mokes you

gifted hypnotist to use them. These skills, olong with the skills for inter-

more otlroctive.

her.

rupting ond initioting with women, will help you creote romonlic con-

'Who/s the story behind thot?" is o simple question ro osk ofter you,ve

nections with women.

soid hi ond noticed some detoil of o womon's presentotion. lf you,ve gotThere ore five

fli*ing skills thot you will leorn from this book:

ten qt oll good ot soying hi, using this skill is eosy. ,lVhot,s the story
behind fiot?" is on excellenl question to osk o womon: ilrs open-ended

Asking 'lVhot's the story behind thot?"

ond it gives her o chonce to tolk obout something thot might be impor-

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Siluotidnql Fli*ing

Deepening

lf o womon is weoring on inreresting-looking ring or eorrings or if she

Romontic Questions ond Romontic Conversqlions

hos on interesting briefcose or pin-bosicolly, if there,s ony'hing obout


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her to which she moy hove poid speciol ottention-you

con soy,

We'll deol with the first flirting skill right now ond cover the others in

thofls o very interesling pin" (or whotever).

loter chopters.

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Almost every womon hos o detrcil obout her obout which you could osk

thot?" She soid, "Oh, I got this on my hip to lndio.,, I bllowed up:

'lVhot's the story behind thot?" You might soy, 'Thot looks like on inter-

"Oh wow, o trip

esting book you're reoding. Whofls the strcry behind lhot?" or "l see you're

who likes to lrovel?" She soid, 'Yeoh, it wos on omozing experi-

corrying tJne Rader mogozine. Thot looks interesting-who/s the story

ence," ond we eosily got intc o conversotion obout trweling ond

behind fhot?" or "l hoven't seen o loptcp compufier like thot before. Who/s

her trip to lndio.

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lndio? Thofs reolly interesting. Are you someone

the stcry behind fiot?" lt is o greot woy to open up olmost qny converso-

We'll show you more detoiled exomples of how to sustoin ond deepen

tion.

the conversotions

thot'lVhofs

the story behlnd fiot?" will stort. For now,

We con heor you soying, "But osking lVhot's the story behind thot

oll you hove to worry obout is soying hi, noticing o detoil ond geiling

mogozine you ore reoding' doesn't moke sensel" You're right-ond thot

one simple question out of your mouth: 'lVhofs the story behind thqt?,,

lock of "sense" is port of the power of the question. h's very open, so
she's free to interpret il ony woy she wonls, ond thot might leod to some-

thing interesting. At the worst, she'll osk you, 'lVhot do you meon?" ond
you con osk o follow-up queslion such os 'lVhot is it obout thot mogozine thot you like?" or "Are there ony orticles in it thot porticulorly interested you?"

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You con screw up ony flirting skill, ond 'Whofs the story behind thot?,,
is no different.

Of course, ifs better to notice detoils obout physicol oppeoronce lhot ore
more meoningful to her thon her loptop or the mogozine she is corry-

As we mentioned before, 'lVho/s the story behind lhot?., is o very open-

ing, but there moy not olwoys be something like thot ovoiloble. lf so, il's

ended question. Thot meons

fine to go for something mundone.

'lVhot's the story behind thot neckloce?" she ctln onswer by tolking

it doesn't limit her onswer. lf you

osk,

obout how she got it in lndio or how she mode it herself or how it olwoys

RON: Asking 'lVho/s the story behind thot?" con work reolly well. For
inslonce, I wos tolking

trc

this womon in line ot o coffee shop. She

reminds her of her first dog or whotever she wonts. The question does-

nt

limit the ronge of her onswer, which is good.

wos right in front of me, so I soid hi ond she soid hi bock. I noficed
she hod on this lndion brocelet with oll these morkings on it, so

But

if you osk the question

incorrectly, you

will

limit her possible

soid to her; 'tVow, thot is o reolly interesting brocelet thot you hove

onswers, which is bod. See if you con spot the errors in the following

on. I hoven'l seen onything like thot bebre. Who/s the strcqy behind

lwo exomples.

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ihe story behind thot?" ond it totolly didn't work. We osked him to tell

ln lhe second exomple, the mon soid, "Thots o reolly inferesling scorf
you're weoring. ls thot o fomily heirloom?,, Once ogoin, he limited her

"Okoy,l wos in the elevotor ot work with

possible onswers, ond in lhis cose, he forced o conversotionol direction

us whot hoppened. He soid,

,lVhots the
stoqy behind

this womon ond I sow thot she hod on o reolly interesling pin, so I soid

thot wos upsetting to her.

thoP" she could hove tolked obout whot she wonted to tolk obout ond
things would hove worked out much better.

her, 'Oh, thofs on inleresting pin. Where did you get it?' And she

soid, 'Oh, I got it qt q siore.' Thot wos the end of the conversotion-it

lf he hod

osked,

didn't go onywhere ol oll."


There's o greot sequence sforfing to build here. Hi con leod very notu-

Another cooching client sow o womon who wqs weoring o reolly inter-

rolly to

esting scorf. He soid to her, 'lV'ow, tho/s o reolly interesling scorf you're

ing skills.

weoring. ls thot o fomily heirloom?" She gosped ond soid, "Oh god,
hope

not-l

'who/s

the stoqy behind fhof?" ond rhor leods into the other flirt-

hote my fomily." End of conversotion. He didn't get her

number, or onything else from her.

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Did you spot the errors? Both of these men osked the question in woys

'lVhott

thot limited the onswers the women could give. The first guy soid, "Thofs

tion. lt gels most women to open up immediotely ond tell you intimote

on interesling pin. Where did you get it?" Well, there's o very simple

detoils obout themselves. After they've told you these detoils, ir's horder

onswer to thot question: "l got it ol o store." The question limited the kind

for them to think of you os o ierk; ofter oll, if you were o


ierk, why would
they open up so much to you?

of onswer she con give; she could only tolk obout where she obtoined

the story behind thot?" is on immensely powerful flirting ques-

it, which wos probobly boring for both her ond the mon.

On the other hond, soying, 'Thofs on interesting pin, whofs the story

when you're tolking ro o womon, be it o solesgirl behind o countrer or


o womon ot o porty, check to see if she's weoring onything thot looks

behind lhot?" is very open. She con onswer with olmost onything thot

unusuol or personol. lt might be

inierests her. She could soy, "l got it in New Zeolond" or "l gol it ot he

or o brocelet. When you see it, osk her, 'nVho/s the story behind thot?,,

moll" or "l got it for myself with my Christmos money." lt leoves her with

ll's o powerful conversolion storler. o

on incredibly wide ronge of possible onswers, which mokes it eosier for


you lo osk follow-up questions: "Do you like to trovel?" or 'lVhot obout it
mode you bvy t?"

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We're obout to teoch you seven Romontic Moves (olso colled Flirting
Moves) to memorize ond implement in your life. When you implement
these moves while tolking to women your success rote

will

increose

greotly. lf you conduct Romontic Conversotions ond don't integrote these


moves, you'll likely stoy sfuck in the dreoded friend zone. So ifs time to

get seductive ond leorn the Romontic Moves.

The moin reoson some men get stuck in the friend zone is becouse they

don't know how to show fteir romontic interesl. Other men get stuck in
the friend zone becouse they're ofroid of being reiected. Men in both
cotegories con leorn the Romontic Moves, use them without risking their
heorts ond souls, ond finolly stop coming ocross os perpetuol friends.

lf you're like o lot of our students, you've looked ot the bod boys who
get women ond decided you weren't going be like them. You probobly

decided thot

if getting women

meont you'd hove

to lie, monipulote

women or qct like o ierk, you would iust give up doting.

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There is good news, however: you don't need to be o ierk to gel women,
though you con leqrn some things from the bod boys. The bod boys ore

willing to show their romontic inlerest right owoy ond risk rejection. The

bod boys ore willing to be upfront with their sexuol inlerest. You con
leorn lo be up front ond show your romontic interesl to women in woys
thot ollow them to feel opprecioted ond respected. We'll show you how.

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You musl leorn oll seven of the moves ond proctice them. When unsuccessfi-rl seducers

find thot o few Romontic Moves ore difficult or scory

they give up. Gropple with yourself ond overcome ony resistonce you
hove lo procticing ond integroting the Romontic Moves into your doting
life.

When you meet o womon for the first time, i/s cruciol thot she knows
yov're o romqntic possibility. lf she sees you os only o friend, it's hord to
become her lover. We believe thol women decide within three minutes

of meeting o mqn if he's o potentiol lover or not. lf you send cleor signols

fiot you're only intrerested in being friends (by not doing

the

Romontic Moves), you'll blow your chonces of something more intimote

developing loter.

or lwo Romontic Moves. lf you only use one or two moves when you flirt

wilh women you will not be

successfi.rl. You

will nol send enough cleor,

strong signols obout your inlerest. When you meet o womon for the first

time, you need lo do ot leost four of the Romontic Moves so you send o
cleor signol thot you ore romonticolly interested.

Men oflen think thot the Romontic Moves do not opply if o womon

is

extremely ottroctive. You follow the some rules when deoling with hot
women os you do with olhers. Show your romonlic interest right owoy

with ollwomen.

h/s importont for you

Another pitfoll to which unsuccessful seducers succumb is only using one

look into her eyes "loo long."

Looking into o womon's eyes,,too

long" creoles o momenl of intimocy between you ond her. ln holding eye
contoct, you're creoling

o little moment in which

she recognizes thot

you're romonticolly interested in her. A friend would ovoid eye contoct

to fomiliorize yourself with oll of the Romontic

Moves. Find the ones thot ore toughest for you ond keep procticing them

ond be more cqulious, but you're no longer iust o friend. You ore stepping into the potentiol lover cotegory ond creoting moments of infimocy
by moking eye contoct with

her.

until they feel noturol. Hopefully some of them will be eosy for you. lf so,
keep procticing them ond refining your skills. After o while, when you/re

fomilior with oll seven moves , yov'll find yourself effo*lessly integroting
them into your flirting ond your conversotions with women.

It

Here's how to do

il

At some point while you're speoking, or during o

conversotionol lull, hold eye contoct for iust o beot too long, iust until ifs

o little uncomfortoble.

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ting cought looking. Looking info o womon's eyes too long will greotly
enhonce your seductive presence.

slqres too long ond too deeply. He lenses up his body, leons in close to

her foce ond stores ot her long ond hord. The key to looking into o

Moke decisions quickly ond eosily.

womon's eyes "loo long" is to ovoid turning it into o big deol. Look into

qcross os confident, strong, powerful. lndecisive men come ocross


os

her eyes for o beot too long-iust long enough to creote o speciol

scored, intimidoted, ofroid to be themselves. How do you wqnt to come

momenl.

ocross

lf you're o guy who tends to ovoid eye conioct ond store ot the floor, you

When you're with o womon, moke decisions quickly ond eosily. lf you,re

need to proctice looking into women's eyes when you trrlk. Hoving o dif-

on o dote ond you con sil in one corner of the coffee shop or the other,

ficult time moking ond holding eye contoct is o very common problem,

choose quickly. lf you're ordering wine ot o bor, decide quickly. lf you,re

but there is help. The cure is to stort looking women directly in ihe eye

selecting

for o few seconds ond then wolking owoy.

meel for o dote. pick quickly. When you're out with q womon, she needs

trc

Men who ore decisive come

women?

o movie to wofch, do so quickly. lf you,re picking o ploce

to

to see thotyou're o decisive mon. This doesn't meon you lurn into o deciYou con develop new skills wifh women, like tolking ond mointrcining eye

sion Nozi ond never osk for her inpur. lt does meqn, howevel thot when

contoct, by hoining your nervous system in smoll doses lo do uncomforF

lhere ore times for quick decisions during o dote you oct decisively.

oble things ond experiment with new behoviors. When you proclice
shetching yourself in new woys, you will eventuolly become desensitized

Wink. Winking

ond fuel comfortrrble being with women. lf you're willing to stort smoll

o lost ort. Most men don,t wink ot women. Why ore


we recommending it? Becouse winking ql women is seductive, simple,

ond build your confidence slowly over time, you'll evenluolly overcome

fun ond infimote. Friends don't wink ot eoch other; potenriol lovers do.

is

your feors ond be successful. lf you hove o hqrd time looking o womon

in the eyes when you tolk, stort procticing todoy. Over the next few

Here's how to do it:

monlhs you will feel more confident ond comforlrble initioling ond hold-

ing eye conloct.

Lefs go over how to look into o womon's eyes "loo long" once ogoin.

It iust tokes o second ond is very eosy. lt helps to smile ofter you wink to

Look into her eyes ond hold eye contoct iust o wee bit too long so you

moke the inleroction feel wormer. You con wink ot ony point in o con-

get into the intimocy zone. Proctice holding eye conloct ond proctice get-

versolion with o womon. Moybe you're tolking to her ond you,re both

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loughing obout something ond you give her o little wink. Moybe you're

Check out her body. Checking out o womon's body does not meon

looking ot o womon ocross o room ond you give her o wink. Winking

you slore ot her cleovoge for hours ond hours (even though we oll love

o little intimole momenl between you ond her. The key to success

lo see greot cleovoge). This does not meon you drop some chonge on

in winking ol o womon is to be subtle ond moke sure the wink is o quick

the ground ond try to look up her skirt while you're picking up the coins

shored moment between the two of you, not o long uncomfodoble ordeol.

thot fell in front of her. This meons you check our her body in o respect-

creotes

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There's o porodox obout mony women. On lhe one hond, they're offend-

lf you contorl your foce ond look like on oxe murderer while blink-

ed when you store ond check out their bodies too long. On rhe other

ing both of your eyes ot ropid speed, you will not come ocross os

hond, they work out oll the time so they con hove greoi bodies, dress

romontic.

greot ond weor push-up bros. Women wont you to look ot their bodies

lf you wink ot o womon ond then run toword her, you will look

so they fuel opprecioted; they iust wonr you to be somewhot subtle so they

like o stolker.

don't feel completrely obiecrified. Yes, ifs o rough line to wolk sometimes,

lf you wink ot o womon ond then stick out your tongue in on

bul we've got some tips thofll be useful in figuring out this mess.

overtly sexuol monner, you will come ocross os o ierk.


lf you wink ot o womon ond then store deeply into her eyes, you

Here's how to do it:

will look like o scory guy.

lf you wink ot o womon ond look terrified insteod of confident,

you will come ocross os o scored, immofure boy.

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Stort by looking in her eyes.

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less thon

o second, move your eyes from hers ond then sweep

down her body.

We hope you get the point.

Come bock up to her eyes ond foce, smile ond keep on tclking

like nothing hoppened.

Winking is o greot romonlic move becouse ifs not something most men

do; il/s out of the ordinory. When you wink ot q womon it cotches her

With this method o womon will

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Checking out o womont body is o good move becouse ifs not something

Lefs do on experiment. Right

o friend would do. A friend might woit until she wosn't looking ond then

try to look down her shirt. When yov're oble to check out q womon

choir like you're bored to teors. Now sir up ond reod this book like
you're gefting o million dollors of volue from Louis & Copelond. Whofs

quickly, you're letting her know you're romonticolly interested in her ond

the difference in your body posture? Whofs the difference in your oilen-

not o ierk.

tion? How does your body feel? When you ore in o stote where you ore

now os you reod this book, sit in your

otlenlive ond keeping your body powerful it will show in your body lonHere's how to blow it:

guoge ond in your presentotion.

Get lo$ in storing ot her breosts.

When you're interocting with o womon ond keeping your body power-

Store qt her crotch ond lick your lips.

ful, you're not distrocled. You're poying oilention to her, not checking out

Nod your heod emphoticolly up ond down.

other women. You're not looking of your wolch, reoding q newspoper,

Soy "l om sloring ol your bodocious tits" when she osks you whot

messing oround with your polmtop compuler-you,re only focused on

you're looking ot.

her. We're not suggesting you hove o

Tense up

your foce ond show her

t*re whites of

your eyes until you

look like you're going into o grond-mol seizure.

wild, moniocol look in your eye;

don't store ot her cross-eyed ond never blink while tolking. Just focus on
the womon you're tolking to ond keep your body powerful.

Troin yourself to be oble to check out o womon in less thon o second.

Compliment her. When you

You're checking oul women oll the time onyrvoy, so you might os well

compliments o womon, you soy, 'Wow, thofs o reolly nice briefcose you

stort procticing this method.

hove." When you compliment o womon the woy o potrentiol lover com-

compliment o womon the woy o friend

pliments o womon/ you soy/ 'lV'ow, you ore

Keep your body powerful. Who ore some of your

o beoutiful womon. you

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hove reolly beoutiful eyes. ll's reolly o pleosure to meel you.,, ln compli-

heroes in the movies? ls ii Will Smith? John Trovolto? Billy Bob Thornton?

menling o womon the woy o lover does, you stoy owoy from imperson-

Clint Eostwood? Humphrey Bogort? The nome of your screen hero isn't

ol complimenls. As o potentiol lover; you wont to let her know thol you,re

importont; the point is thot you'll likely be more seductive if you model

noticing romontic detoils obout her ond you're willing to toke risks in

your behovior ond poslure on your hero. Men who ore seductive hold

tolking to her.

their body in o powerful woy so when they're stonding, sitting or mov,,1

ing they come ocross os both foscinoted ond foscinoting. The woy to do

When you compliment women you con soy things like

this is to pretend thot you ore foscinoted, foscinoting ond powerful ond

how beoutiful you ore for o second" or "You hove on omozing sense of

then stond ond move in thot woy.

stylo" or "Your smile brightens up the whole room. ,, l[ yov,re being intro-

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so this is the beoutiful Jennifer l've heord so much oboul."

ing to toke some risks ond give o womqn some compriments,


you,il find
out how fo push the boundory betueen friend ond rover, despire rhe
occosionol mistoke.

When complimenling o womon, be on the lookout for detoils. When you


con see ond ocknowledge the detoils

$ol o womon

hos put o lot of effort

into, you come ocross os o potentiol lover. As we soid, o friend compli-

As you proctice complimenting women, it's importont to find


your own
unigue compliment style. Do you feel comfortoble complimenting
o

A poten-

womqn on her smile? whot feels too overtly sexuol to you? Whot
seems

tiol lover compliments o womon on her eorrings, neckloce, hoir, smile or

cheesy to you? Get ouf there ond find the style thot's best for
you. When

something more intimote.

you do, your confidence ond success will increose tremendously.

Somelimes friends ond lovers moy notice the some thing obout q womon

Whisper

ments o womon on her briefcose, cor or something impersonol.

to

her. When you whisper fo o womon, you creole

but they will bring il up in very different woys. A friend might notice o

o
moment of intimocy between the two of you. lt's like the resr
of the world

neckloce ond soy, 'Thq/s o veD/ nice neckloce." A potentiol lover might

is shut out for o second ond you,re olone together.

soy, 'lVow, thq/s

o reolly lovely

mokes you glow even more."


molches your shoes."

necklqce you're weoring, ond

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iust

A friend might soy, "l like how your belt

A potentiol lover would

soy,

"l noticed your

belt

ond shoes motch. They drow out the color in your eyes ond moke you

lf you hwe the opportunity


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whisper during o conversorion, i/s o greot

mqke. For exomple, you might whisper fic o womon,

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hove ic con_

hss thot you're reolly beoutiful," ot "r reolly om enioying tolking

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you.,,

look even more beoutiful."

Whispering is o good tool to use to emphosize romontic tolk.


You'll moke mistokes olong they

woy-we qll do. One of the

situotions

mony of our students need to encounler is offending o womqn by push-

Here's how to do it:

ing o compliment too for. Thot con be o good thing to experience.


Flirting with women requires risk, ond when you risk with o womon,
sometimes you will occidentolly offend her. This is port of life. The only

Leon into her ond soy o few quiet words; then leon out ond
tolk
normolly.

woy to stoy perfectly sofe is lo remoin in the friend zone. lf you're willWhispering's o woy of drowing in your personor spoce ond moking
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Pretend you're mute or you've hod o trocheotomy.

Whisper like you're speoking some incomprehensible foreign longuoge.

The Goodbye lntroduction is onother woy

of initioting with o womon,

showing your romontic interest ond complimenting her on o deep level.

lfs risky in thot you ore going out of your woy ond showing romontic

Whisper dozens of times during o dote. Once or twice is quite


enough!

interest directly.

At the some time, ifs low-risk in thot if oddresses her

feors, so is not threotening to her. ll,s olso quick ond it gives you on eosy

exit if the interoction doesn't go the woy you'd hoped.


These

ore fundomentol moves to moke when you're with women to

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show o womon you're romonticolly interested. lf you hold eye conloct

"too long," mqke decisions quickly ond eosily, wink ot o womon, check
out her body, compliment her, keep your body powerful ond whisper to
her, you

When you hoven't hqd o chonce to soy hi. The Goodbye


lntroduction is o greot thing to use with women you hoven't hod o
chonce to soy hi to. She moy be ocross the bor or working out ot your

will become o seduciion mochine.

gym or o woitress who didn't serve your toble or ony womon you see
Keep trock

of how mony

Romontic Moves you

do in your doily life.

Which ore eosy ond which ore difficult? Find the moves thol score you

ond wont lo opprooch, buf the noturol flow of things hosn't thrown the
two of you together.

mosl ond try them onywoy. The more you proctice them, the less intimi-

doting they'll be. lf one of the Romontic Moves is eosy for you, refine it

When you qre leoving qnywqy.

by proclicing it often. We wont you to feel comfortrcble with these moves

greot lost thing to do

while pushing yourself to go outside of your normol comfort zone. These

lntroduction con be o fun, exciling woy to connect with

moves ore going to bring out the romontic you.

when you're leoving o bor, reslouronl, store or wherever you moy be.

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The Goodbye lntroduction is o

mony sociol situotions. The Goodbye

o hot womon

When you wont to interocf with o womon who intimidotes you. The Goodbye lntroduction is designed to be over quickly;
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When you wont to build your self-esleem with women.


When you're feeling too intimidoted to try to hove o long conversotion
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The Goodbye lntroducfion hos four ports, ond they're oll importont:

need. ll,s not designed to get you her number or emoil oddress, though

you con use it for thot; ifs designed to get you into the gome of seduc-

Tell her

tion on o much deeper level thon simply soying hi.

thing like "l hove to go nov/' or "l'yegorio run, my friends ore woiting for

yov're leoving.

You tell her you ore leoving by soying some-

me outside."

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This is o very importont step. Most of the time, women you don,r know

well qre going to osk themselves some combinotion of three things when

lmogine you're ot the gym ond you see o womon who's reolly ottroctive.
But she's busy lifting weights, ond it seems like your gym isn't such o

you first interrupt them or toke o conversotion into deeper, riskier territory. These questions ore obout her sofety; they ore 'Whot is he going

friendly ploce onpvoy.

to do to me?," "How long will it toke?" ond '!Vhy is he soying this to


Here's whot you do: leove the gym when she is between sets or stretch-

me?"

ing. Then, on your woy out, introduce yourself like this (smile while you

do it!): "Hi, l'm iust leoving ond I only hove o second here, but before

go I reolly wonted to inhoduce myself to the womon who hos such wonderful form. My nome is Ron." She'll soy something bock like "Oh hi,
my nome is Mondy." Then you soy, "l've gotto go, but I hope to see you

This is why, when you do the Goodbye lntroduction, your first words ore

"l hove to leove." Soying thot you hove to leove

mokes it eqsier for her

to listen to you becouse il onswers two of her most pressing questions.


She knows the interoction won't toke long, ond since il won,t toke long,
there's less bod stuff thot you'll hove iime to do to her. Addressing those

here ogoin." Then you leove.

sofety questions is importonl, ond soying "l hove to leove" or some voriThis simple infieroction creotes on opening

br you to trclk to her

next time

otion thereof hondles thot nicely.

you see her ("Hi Mondy, how ore you?"l.lt olso gives you o woy of interocting with her

br

you. Becouse you

the first time without there being much risk for either of
lrall

her right owoy thot you qre leoving, she's less likely

ic be ofroid of you wosting loh of her time. lt olso builds your esleem ond

h/s importont

to know thol you con'l iust onswer her sofety questions

explicitly through some sort of direct, dignified conversotion, which men


somelimes try to do. Men who try to olloy women's feors directly olmost

teoches your nervous system thot you con ocfuolly survive tolking to beou-

olwoys foil; they end up soying something like "l'm not o stolker or ony-

tiful women, which mokes il more likely thot you'll do it ogoin in the future,

thing, I wonted lo meet you" or "Don't be ofroid, I


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These never work, becouse soying these things is so incredibly suspi-

cious thot they steer

o womon bock into her sofety questions.

instontly osk herself,

'lVhy is he telling me he's not o

lntroduce yourself.

This port is simple-simply stote your nome.

She'll

stolker? ls it

becouse he is one? Who/s he going to do to me? How long will it toke?"


She ends up terrified, ond the conversotion goes nowhere good.

she'll probobly respond by relling you her nome ond being friendly.
After oll, whot does she hove fo lose if you're obout fo leove onyrvoy?
From there you con either moke some chitchot (which we,ll tolk obout

or leove, your self-esteem increosed by hoving token o risk ond


hoving hod o reol, romonric interoction with on qftroctive womon.
soon)

Soying

"l

hove lo go," on the other hond, isn't ot oll suspicious ond

onswers her sofety questions well enough for her to relox ol leqst o little.
This ollows her to be more open ond receplive to whot you soy next,

The Goodbye lntroduction doesn'f usuolly get you

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Tell her you couldn'l leove without complimenting her.

women directly ond romonticolly, ond o big port of becoming o seducer is becoming thot klnd of guy. Anhis point in the seduction skill build-

You

simply soy, "but I iust couldn'l leove without infoducing myself to the
womon who..."

o dote right

owoy.

does do is moke you into the kind of guy who opprooches

ing, the point is not to get her in bed; the poinf is to get you to be the
kind of guy who con do this sort of thing. The Goodbye lntroduction
builds thot oggressive, seductive muscle, which is whot will help you suc-

Compliment her.

The compliment itself will depend on the situotion

ceed with women.

you ore in. Whot is it obout her thot you're odmiring? Are you odmiring her style? her posture? her rodionce? her smile? Whotever it is, you

il.

Furihermore , iI you use the Goodbye rntroduction ot o gym, bor or ony-

of course-if you're odmiring o

ploce you might see the womon ogoin, you now hove qn opening with

womon's breosts, for inslonce, we shouldn't hove to tell you thot soying

her: you've complimented heri you've introduced yourself to her os o


powerful mon ond you know her nome. Next time you see her, you con

compliment

(This is within reoson,

"l couldn'l leove without introducing myself to the womon who's got one
hell of o rock" is not going to sound very seductive.) Find something to
odmire obod her thot she'll see os o compliment ond give it to her-soy
something like 'the womon who is so incredibly rodiont" or "who hos
such o beoutiful smile."

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You con use the Goodbye lntroducfion to get o womon's phone number

or emoil oddress. lf you soy, "l wos iust leoving ond I reolly gotlo go,
but I iust hqd to stop ond soy hello lo fie womon who is so beoutiful. Hi,
my nome is Dovid." She might soy, "Hi, my nome is Soroh." From there
you con soy pretty much onything. lf you're ot the gym, for instonce, you
cqn osk her how she likes the gym or how often she works out. You con
osk 'lVhot's the stoqy behind thot?" or use ony of the other flirting skills.

"Hi! l'm iust leoving now, bd before I went, I hod to come up ond
lell you thot you hove such o beoutiful smile, it lights up the whole
room. I iust hod to let you know

fiot before I left. By the woy, my

nome is Ron."

"Hi, I hove to go-my friends ore woiting for me outside-but


before t left t hod to come up ond tell you thot you look incredibly
beoutiful. By the v/oy my nome is Donold."

"Hi, l've gotlo run right now, but before I do I iust hod to toke the
risk of coming up ond telling you thot you hove such o bequtiful

When you ore reody, you leove-ond we suggest you do this while the

smile. By the woy, my nome is Dovid."

conversotion is still fun. Firsl, soy lo her, 'You know, I reolly hove to go,

"Hi, l'm lust on my \ /oy out ond only hove o second, but before

but you seem like on inleresling person qnd I would reolly like to know

went I iust hod to come up ond tell you thot you hove on omozing

you o little better. Whot would it be like if we got together sometime?


Con I hove your emoil qddress or phone number?" lf she soys yes, greotl
Toke her info ond be gone. lf she soys no, well, you hove

sense of style. I wish I hod to time to stoy ond seduce you, but

reolly hove to go. By the woy, my nome is Ron."

lo leove ony-

woy. Soy, 'lV'ell, it's been nice to meet you!" ond go.

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is skipping the first port of the Goodbye lntroducrion. They stort tolking

As you con see, the Goodbye lntroduction is reolly very simple.

You

opprooch her, tell her you're leoving, tell her you couldn'f leove without

to o womon but they don't tell her "l'm obout to leove, so I only hove o
moment to lolk to you." This leoves her not knowing whot you ore going

complimeniing her, compliment her, introduce yourself ond either leove

to do to her or how long it will toke ond sends her right bock into her

or stoy ond toke the conversotion forther.

sofety questions. She thinks, "Oh my god, whot is he going tc do ond

how long is this going to toke?" You've got to tell her you only hove o
momenl ond will be leoving, even if lhe contoct slretches out into o much

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Not reolly complimenting her. lf you're used to being iust friends


with women, it con be very hord to compliment $em on something

out loud. This is cruciol. There's o huge difference between reoding the

romonlic or sensuol. You might be ofroid to let o women know thot you

exomples in this book ond octuolly speoking them out loud. We recom-

think she is beoutiful. You might be emborrossed or worry thot your

mend thot you memorize one or two of these ond proctice them

compliment might hurt her in some woy. You might worqy thot everyone

20 fimes out loud. You hove to get used to hoving these words come out

will know whot you soid to her ond will lough ot you.

of your mouth so thot when you're in front of o womon you con iust open

Not procticing out loud.

Proctice possible Goodbye lntroductions

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your mouth ond the right words will come out.


When you let these feors run you, you're likely to give o tepid compliment, like'You hove o reolly nice briefcose" or'Those ore nice shoes."

Being unwilling to work your wqy up.

Such mild complimenls don't show your romontic interest ond don't

for the hottest women in the world ond do fiis seemingly mossive thing

show thot you're the kind of guy who's willing to toke some risk with

if it's too terrifying. You moy wont to proctice this ot first with o women

women. You're likely to come ocross os too mild, ond tho/s not good.

whom you oren'l mossively ottrocted lo iust to get the experience.

Nol feeling good oboul doing it.

Woiring for it not to feel risky or scory.

Hoving soid thot, if you're veqy

You don't need to go

lfs worth knowing

fiot

o mild compliment ('Thot's o very nice pin you're weoring")

the first few times you do the Goodbye lntroduction will be very scory

might be oll you con do ot first. lf so, do it ond celebrote thot you did it;

for you. You'll be ofroid thot something terrible will hoppen or thot she'll

if you're shy, thot moy be o big step. Don'l expect it to blow her owoy,

be incredibly upset by it or thot she'll lough ot you or thot everyone will

becouse it won't. But it moy give you the confidence you need to give o

know whot you did ond you'll be o complete ond uiter fool in eveqyone's

bigger compliment nexl time, ond tho/s oll thot reolly motters.

eyes. After you've done it o few times you'll know thqt ifs reolly not thot

shy, giving

big o deol, ond

ifll

get much eosier to do. The problem is you hove to

We hod one studenl who would do the Goodbye lntroduction ond hoted

go through those first few scory times to get to thot point. lf you woit for

every minule of it. tf women didn't drop to their knees to give him orol

it not to feel risky before you try, you'll never try.

sex right then, he felt like o complete foilure. This mode him seem grove,

heovy ond even scory lo women, so he never got the result he wos look-

Even ofter you've leorned thot you con

ing for. You hove to lel yourself feel good obout whot you do. Doing o

wifhout being inslontly struck down by lightning, there will still be o

Goodbye lntroduction is o big step, ond no motter how it turns out you

scory momenl eveqy time you do it, right before you open your mouth

should feel good obout it.

to tolk. Thofs the moment of commitment, the moment the sky diver

do the Goodbye lntroduction

experiences right os he's obout to iump oul of the oirplone. You con't

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woit for the feor to go owoy before you do it. You just hove to lump.
Open your mouth ond soy the Goodbye lntroduction.

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Mony men ore ofroid to do the Romontic, Flirting Moves, or the
Goodbye lntroduction. But when we tolk to women, they tell us thot heoring o Goodbye lntroduction or experiencing some Romontic Moves with

o mon often mokes their entire doy. ll/s o nice thing to do. Controry lo
whot you moy believe, you con be

cllflp[0l'

sweet guy ond reolly moke o

women's doy by flirting with her ond showing romonlic inlerest. Don'l
deprive women of this fun, feel-good experience!

There you ore in front

Moyb"

of o hot womon ond you wont to flirt with

her.

she's the receptionist of your dentis/s office or the woitress ot your

luncheonetle or the womon who ot the moll who's selling you o new tie.
You need o good woy to

fli* with women in these ond mony other nor-

mol, doy-to-doy situotions. When you encounter o womon, you need to


be oble to flirt with her in o fun woy thot shows her you're o guy who pro-

vides loughs ond is stimuloting to be oround. Situotionol Flirting is the key.

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You've probobly seen men who were reolly good ot ioking oround ond

kidding with women. Perhops you've even hod moments where you
were thot guy. Men who ore good ol kidding oround with women ond

who con moke thot kidding romontic ore procticing Situotionol Flirting.

Situotionol Flirting involves two key skills: creotive misinterpretotion ond


osking outrogeous queslions. Creolive misinterpretotion hoppens when
you toke some detoil in the environment thot you ond the womon ore in
ond oct os though thot item is dromoticolly different thon it is. You then
osk on oulrogeous question obout thot misinterprelotion. You will leorn

how trr do thig in this chopter.

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For instonce, you moy be interocting with o womon who hos o comero.

Situqtionol Fli*ing works well on oll these problems. lfs fun, light, pleos-

You moy moke the creotive misinlerprelotion ihot her comero con steol

ont, enioyoble ond energizing for you both. lt creotes o shored reolity

souls ond then osk the oulrogeous question:

ero-ifs

"Oh,

I see you hove o com-

not going lo steol my soul, is il?"

between you,

o fontrcsy world thot the two of you cqn revisit on

occosions (more on this loter). And it mokes her look forword

fufure
seeing

you ogoin.
This ioke is on opening for her to ioke bock with you. Mony women will
respond humorously, soying something like, "No, this isn't my soul-steol-

ing comero-l left thot one ol home." At the very leost, most women will
smile ond lough. As the ployful interoction progresses, you con odd, "l

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ill'fllls

q numbers gome.

think your beouty hos stolen my soul olreody." Then you're reolly in the

Remember thof dofing is

reolm of effective Situotionol Flirting.

proctice Situotionol Flirting, it's o good ideo to remember our old odoge:

As you begin to

"Doting is o numbers gome." Situotionol Flirting is not going to work


Siluotionol Fli*ing comes down to finding something in lhe environment

100 percent of the time; nothing does. Situotionol Flirting is not o quick-

o loke obout or osk on

fix kind of thing. Not oll women ore going to be receptive to humor;

thot you con creolively misinterpret ond moke

"Outrogeous Question" obout. lf you con do thot, you con proctice

some will get scored ond stoy scored. To

Situotionol Flirting.

shoot. When you begin Situotionol Flirting with reol-world women, iust

o certoin exlenl, ifs o crop-

remember thol doting is numbers gome.

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Women look ro you for certointy thof fhings qre okoy.


When you're procticing Situotionol Flirting with o womon, you must pro-

You need to proclice Situotionol Flirting to solve some of the eorly prob-

vide o sense of certointy for her thot whot you're doing is okoy, thot

wi$ o womon you've iust mel:

there isn't ony problem with you ioking oround with her or with her iok-

lems thot shows up in ony interoclion

How ore you going to moke o light, enioyoble connection? How ore you

ing oround with you.

going to build thot initiol stote of ropport? And how ore you going lo do

ii in o woy thot is fun ond enioyoble for both oI yov?

Some women might be

little bit scored ot first when you stod doing

Situotionol Fli*ing becouse you ore definitely interrupting them on o deepLook ot it from her point of view: she's worried thoi you're o creep. You

er level ond osking them

need to creole on enioyoble, memoroble experience together thot shows

ity. They ore going to be looking ot you, your behovior ond your level of

her you're o trustworthy, fun guy who she might wont to spend time with.

confidcncc ond combrt to figure out whether or not there's o problem.

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ioin you in o humorous, ployful pretend reol-

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lf you seem incredibly neryous, ond come ocross os if you ore thinking,

Be reody for o vqriety of responses. When we storted proctic-

"Oh my God, is this going to work? l'm doing o horrible thing-l'm

ing Situotionol Flirting, sometimes we ended up with women storing ot

being weird. I sure hope this doesn't wreck her doy. l'm o bod guy," it

us like they were reolly scored. lt olmost never hoppens now becouse the

will moke it more likely thot she will get upset. lf you seem to be think-

more we proctice this flirfing skill the more we trust it ond the more we

ing, "Greol! l'm moking this ioke ond she is going to look to me ond if

con proiect thot trust ond reloxotion to the women we're flirting with.

I om okoy

wifi

it she'll probobly be okoy with it too," she will more like-

Be prepored to prcvide bofh sides of rhe flirring interoc.

ly be fine with it.

tion.

Most women

will be oble to ioke bock with you; some won't.

Ultimotely, if you moke o Situotionol Fli*ing ioke ond she hos o problem

Remember when we ioked obout o womqn's cqmero steoling your soul?

with it, remember: il's o numbers gome ond her problems ore hers, so

Well, whot if she didn't hove ony comebock ot oll? lf so, you'd provide

whot else con you do?

the comebock-something like the one you hod hoped she would use.
You might soy,

Use your body. Using your

bo*

involves smiling, moking eye contrrct

with ond putting energy ond vitolity intn your voice. lf you're frowning,
scowling, looking ot the foor or mumbling, it's going to be hord
get Situotionol Fli*ing tc work

'Voit,

thofs nof your soul-steoling comero-you musl

hove left it ot home." She con lough ot this ond you'll toke her off the
hook for hoving to be clever in order to enloy being with you.

br you trc

br you. Smile, breothe, look ot her ond give

it your best shot!

R.emember your Situqtionol Flirring question. When you wonf

lo proctice situqlionol flirting with o womon, look oround the environment you ore in ond osk yourself, 'Whot is there in this situotion obout

Proctice, proctice, proctice. Situotionol Flirting is complicoted enough

which I con osk some sorl of outrogeous or silly question? Whot con

thot you probobly won't moster it overnight. lf you're used to trying to

creotively misinterpret in this situotion thot might be lvnny?" The onswer

control conversotions with women, ond most unsuccessful seducers ore,

to thot question will guide you in your Situotionol Flirting. You'll see how

it moy loke some proctice before you get used to letting go of control-

we use thot question in the exomples below.

ling the conversotionol outcomes ond moking creolive misinterpretotions


ond osking outrogeous questions.

To succeed qt Situotionol Flirting, you need to be in the flow of the

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moment, not trying to controlwhere the interoction might toke the two of

We're going to give you exomples of Situotionol fli*ing. Pleose note

l0 or 20

this: These exomples ore going to seem silly becouse they ore silly.

you. h/s risky ond will toke time to get used to, so give yourself
tries ot this before expecting it to

hel noturol.

You'rc being silly when you look ot something in the environment ond

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soy something silly obout it or moke on outrogeous ioke oboul it. We've

ond got o lough.

used oll of the iokes below in reol life ourselves ond they've oll gone

he gove her

quite well, so don'f worry if these seem weird on the printed poge.

smoll woy thot she wos speciol, not iust on outomoton dispensing tickets.

Also remember thd these exomples qre not prescriplions: we ore not sug-

DAVID: Here's onother exomple. lwos ot the

To

thot womon he wos funny ond fun to be oround ond

o brief, pleosuroble experience. He showed her in

some

Czop buying clothes.

gesting you do these exoct Situotionol Fli*ing convefsotions. These exom-

don'l know if you've noticed, but oll the employees ot the Gop

ples ore to get your mind thinking in this mode, so you con come up with

weor rodio heodsets. I don't know if they con tolk on the phone or

your own, be flexible, ond hove the flirting interoction reolly work.

poge eoch other or whot, but it struck me os odd, so I osked


myself,

DAVID: I wos recently in St. Louis ond I wos buying o ticket to go up

'lVhot

is there in this situotion obout which I con osk some

sort of ouirogeous or silly question? Whot con I creoiively misinter-

in the St. Louis Arch. There wos o reolly pretty girl selling the tick-

pret in this siiuotion thot might be funny?" And, of course, the

ets. So I wos osking myself the moin question you should osk your-

heodsets stood out. So I osked the heodseFweoring girlwho wos

self for situotionol flirting: 'tVhot is there in this situotion obout

ringing me out, "Con you lounch the spoce shuttle with thot?" lt

which I con osk some sort of outrogeous or silly question? Whot

wosn't very fr.rnny, but she thought it wos funny enough to lough

con I creotively misinterpret in this situotion thot might be funny?"

obout il.

So I smiled ond osked her, "Do you ond your friends get to go up
there ond porty ofter hours in the Arch? Does it get to be your

I continued, "Oh, I know whot they're doing with

ployground?" She soid, "Oh yeoh, we do hove porties up there

ore feeding you pro-Gop propogondo eoch ond every moment,

somelimes. You con renl il out, you know." She wos nice but wos-

oren't they?" And she loughed ond soid, "Oh nol I love the Gop!"

n't reolly getting into the ioking mood yet, so I smiled ond osked

And I soid, "Oh, so it's working-they've progrommed you tc love

her, "ls it o ploce where you get to go o lot? Could you ond me go

the Gop!" And she loughed more, ond there we were, hoving o fun

up there somelime?" And she loughed ond soid,

'Vell,

I think you

fiot heodset*they

interoclion together.

should try it out with o ticket first." lt wos o successful flirting inter-

oction.

So the next time I come into the sficre I con do the some thing ogoin.
I con come in ond smile ond soy, "Oh, so they're still feeding you

Dovid took something in the environment, the Arch itself, put qn outro-

thot pro-Gop propogondo through your heodset, right? Are you still

geous spin or interpretotion on it ("ls this your personol ployground?")

pro-Gop?" l/s become o running ioke, ond she ond I hqve thot little
shored reolity together thot is difbrent from our ordinory lives ond is

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3omothing thot gives her pleosure. lt mokes it pleosuroble for her to

counter. I osked myself the question,

3eo me ond she knows thot I om someone she con ploy with. This is

tion obout which I con osk some sort of outrogeous or silly ques-

the kind of thing thot fits in with oll the flirting tools in this book.

tion? Whot con I creotively misinterpret in this situotion thot might

'lVhot

is there in this situo-

be funny?"

RON: I wos grocery-shopping the other doy ond there wos o womon
in the olcohol section who wos pretty hot. I osked myself the ques-

So I went up to her with the book I wqs holding, smiled ot her ond

tion, 'lVhot is there in this situotion obout which I con osk some

soid, 'This book looks pretty good. Hove you reod it? Con you

sod of outrogeous or silly question? Whot con I creotively misinter-

review it

pret in this situotion thot might be funny?" I thought obout o misin-

prelending to be shocked, 'lVhot, you hoven't reod oll the books in

lerpretotion: whot if she wos on undercover cop looking to orrest

the bookstore? I thought you knew qll of the booksl You look so

underoge kids for trying to buy olcohol?

knowledgeoble there behind the informotion countrer!" And she

br

me?" She soid she hodn't reod it, so I soid, smiling ond

loughed ond soid, "Nope, not mel Though I do like trc reod,

So I smiled ond osked he4 "So, whot ore Vou doiryfr Are you scout-

hoven't gotien to oll the books yet. l'm still not even done with the lit-

ing for oll the underoge people who ore trying6 buy beer? You're

eroture seclion, ond they keep odding to it!"

not going tc bust me, ore you?" She loughed ond loked bock, "l

don't know, you don'l look too young!" I held out my wrists for her

RON: There's o lot of stuff you con do in o bookstrcre. I hod on experi-

imoginory hondcuffs ond soid, 'You could bust me if you wont "

ence once when I wos in o bookstore ond I sow o womon looking ot

ond we loughed together. lt moy look stupid when you reod it here

books obout UFOs. l osked myself, 'Whot is fiere in this situotion

but she wos loving it.

obout which I con osk some sorl of outrogeous or silly question?

Whot con I creotively misinterpret in this situotion thot might be


So I took the next step: I soid, "My nome is Ron, whofs your

Ivnny?"

nome?" h led to something. I could hove gone for her emoil oddress

or phone number. lf I see her ogoin, I olreody hove o connection

Here's whot I did: smiling, I held up o book ond osked, 'lV'ere you

with her, so it will be eosy to build upon it. We hove o fun imogi-

obducted by o UFO? I wos obducted once. Whot do you think?

nory world between us now. She knows she con be silly with me.

shore some qbduction sficries." lt sounds stupid, but she wos lough-

Ler,s

ing. lt put her ot eose.

DAVID: You hove probobly noticed thot very pretty girls often work ot
bookstores. lwos ot one such bookstore ond I sow o

prefi girl

who worked there iust sort of honging out behind the informotion

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ln thot situotion, you mighr olso "misinterpref' o womon to be on olien

looked ot thot condy, ond osked myself the question, 'Whot is there

ond soy, 'lV'ow, so ore you o beoutiful olien here to obduct people for

in this sifuotion obout which I con osk some sorl of outrogeous or

tests?

l'll bet thotyou ore...ore you going to toke me?" lt mokes o ioke,

compliments her ond shows your romontic interesl. lt/s going to be hord

silly question? Whot con I creotively misinterpret in this situotion thot


might be funny?"

for her to stuff you inlo the "iust friends" cotegory ofter you confidently
told her she wos bequliful during your first interoction with eoch other.

So I smiled ond soid,

'A

ior of Tootsie Rolls! ls this br me?" She

soid, 'tVell, it depends...Hcve you been good this yeor?" And

DAVID: Here's onother exomple. I wenl into the bonk, ond there wos

thought, "Grerll, she's ploying olong! Thots wonderfr;|." I soid, "l

o girl behind the counter, ond we were doing some bqnking lrons-

think l've been pretty good, but in some woys l've been pretly bod,

oction-o typicol bonking experience. I osked myself the question,

too." She loughed, ond I soid, "l don't know, I might need some cor-

'Whot is fiere in fiis situotion oboul which I con osk some sort of

rection os well os some rewords. Do you think you would be oble

outrogeous or silly question? Whot con I creotively misinterpret in

do thot?" She loughed, I went on with my tronsoction ond I left hov-

this situotion thot might be funny?"

ing hod o successful Situotionol Flirting interoction.

And here's whot I soid: "So, do you get Iokep<Wrcentoge of the

Notice how these flirting intreroctions hoppen with women you see

money ihot comes in? You know, like o grotuity?" And she loughed

every doy in ploces you go on o regulor bosis: the bonk, the gro-

ond soys, "Oh, thofs so fr.rnny-lwish I could." Then I took our little

cery store, bookstores ond so on. Using this tool, you con use these

shored fonicsy one sfiap further: "Oh, but then you would hove ic

ploces lo meet ond connect wilh women.

trc

pqy o percentoge of whot goes out, too. Thot would be bod." She
loughed ond soid, "Oh no, I wouldn't like thot

port*l'd

iust keep

RON: There is one womon ot my bonk who I om working on. I om

the money when it comes in." I smiled ond soid, 'Thot would be

getting closer lo osking her out by flirting with her on o regulor

perfect for you! I con see it now...You get trc keep lhe money

bosis. So every time I go in there, I continue o running ioke

becouse you do such o greot iob!" She soid, 'Yeoh, thot would be

Situotionol Flirting move I storted with her weeks ogo. She is iust o
bonk treller, but I olwoys kid her obout becoming bonk president. I

perhct. Here's your money, hove o greot doy!" Next lime she

sees

me, she'll be reody to hqve onother fun interoction with me.

soy, "Okoy, Liso, when ore they going to moke you president of
the bonk? l/s obod time! I know you hove been doing this work

Here's onother exomple. I wos ot the bonk oround Chrislmostime,

only so you con infiltrote the bonk, ond I know thot pretty soon

ond os I went up to the treller I noticed thot right by her window

you ore going to be the president. ln foct, I om going to be your

there wos o gloss ior full of Tootsie Rolls with o bow oround it.

orrilirnt..." lt is iusl this for-out story thot I keep sustoining ond

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thot we build upon every time I see her. l'll soy things like 'lVhen

come once o week." And so I creoted thot humorous interoction with

you ore the president, I will come ond I will shovel the snow off

o womon by osking myself whot I could creotively misintrerpret into

your cor ond we'll hong out, you'll do personol loons to me, ond

on oulrogeous, frlnny question.

together we'll moke o killing in interest rotes..."

RON: Here's onother exomple from o coffee shop. I wos sitting in o


h/s eosy

to keep it going, ond she loves it. ln her doy-to-doy lib, she

probobly feels like the lowest rung on the lodder-which she isond here is o guy who octr.rolly con see her nol only for whot she

coffee shop reoding the book You

Just

Don't lJndersftrnd. lfs obout

men's ond women's relotionship ond communicolion issues. l'm siF


is

but in o for-oul, flottering woy. So thot hos gone reolly well for me.

ting there reoding this book ond it is boring me, so I storted osking the womon sifting ot the next toble whot she thought obout oll

of these exomples. l'd osk her things like "lt sqys women feel like
DAVID: Restouronts ore onother greot ploce to proctice Situotionol

men tqy to fix them insteod of listening. Do you think thot/s true?

hr

Flirting. For instonce, nol too long ogo I wos in o bokery where

Hos thot been true

they hod o giveowoy going: you dropped your business cord in

versolion, ond I got her number ond emoil ond ended up doting

this fish bowl ond if they picked it out, you won q yeoy's worth of

her. Thot oll come out of osking her

free breod. There wos o cute giil

#hind

fish bowl. I osked myself the question,

the counter next to the

'lVhot

is there in this situo-

you?" lt turned out to be on hour-long con-

o silly question from the book,

eliciting her opinion ond tolking. Then, oll of o sudden, we were


connected.

tion obout which I con osk some sort of ouirogeous or silly question? Whot con I creotively misinterpret in this situotion thot might

ln this exomple, Ron didn't even "misinterpre/' onything. He wos simply

be fi.rnny?"

willing to toke whot wos in the environment ond omplify it o litle. He


wos osking himself if the exomples in the book he wos reoding were

I soid to her, "So, you're going to give me o yeoy's worth of free

breod, huh?" She soid, "Sure, if you win." I soid,

"L,el

true. Then he took his curiosity ond osked lhe womon ot the next toble.

me piclure

lhis now: you're going to pull up in o gigontic truck ond dump o

ln o woy, thofls whot oll of this is obout. When you do Situotionol

yeoy's worth of breod on my lown?" She loughed ot the imoge ond

Fli*ing, you loke whot is in the environment ond moke it o little bigger,

soid, "No, no, I won't be doing it!" I soid, "Oh, so somebody else

o little more fonciful, until it becomes o little world in which you ond o

will be dumping the breod on my lown ond you will be like the fig-

womon con enter together. You con leorn to do this with proctice.

ure in the bockground who mokes if hoppen but doesn't reolly come
trc

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deliver it herself?" She loughed ond soid, "No, no, the breod will

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DAVID: Here's onother exomple of Situotionol Fli*ing. This

is ot o den-

self, 'lVhot is there in this situotion obout which I con osk some sort of

tis/s office. I wos getting my teeth cleoned-ond if tho/s someihing

outrogeous or silly question? Whot con I creotively misinterpret in this

you hwen't done in six monfis or so, you should probobly coll up

situotion thot might be funny?" The opportunities reolly ore everywhere.

your dentist ond moke on oppointment. The receptionist wos o very


pretty girl. As she wos checking me in, I osked her; 'Are you the

For instonce, if you're drinking o cup of coffee with o womon, you could

guordion of this bod, evil ploce?" She soid, "Oh yeoh, l'm the

look ot the grounds in the bottom of the cup ond soy something like "l

guordion oll right." I soid, 'Well, con you put o spell on me, oh

heord thot some people con tell your fortune by looking ot your coffee

guordion, so the work on my teelh won'i hurt?" She soid, 'lVell,

grounds...ifs sort of like ostrology. People do it in Turkey. Would you like

don't know." So I soid, 'Okoy, how obout you put o spell on me so

me to reod your fodune? Would you reod mine?" lf you're drinking teo,

thot the teeth cleoning won't hurt?" She giggled ond soid, "Okoy, l'll

you con osk, 'Vould you reod my teo leoves for me? I wont to find out

put o spell on you. But I think you will still wont

obout love." She will lough. ond thot is o funny, romontic thing.

Novocoin." So I come bock with, 'lVell, I don't know. I om preily

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bewitched by you olreod, but okoy." We hod this wonderful pking


This doesn't even hove to be o big deol. When you're leoving

o restou-

ront ond your pretty woitress osks you, "Do you wonl your receipt?" You

conversofion obout how she hod this mogicol power ond it wos fun

br

us both.

't '{ell, yes, I om going to tqke this os o memento of our time

con soy,

together. l'll'keep it forever." lf you smile while you do it, there's o good

RON: I con think of one exomple of Situotionol Flirting thot Dovid ond

chonce she'll lough, ond you'll hqve hod o Situotionol Fli*ing intreroclion.

I did together every time we sow o cerloin womon ot our locol co-

op groceqf store. She wos kind of punky-looking ond would weor


Situotionol Flirting is nol necessorily obout getting her phone number {or

ormy fotigues most of

emoil oddress) right then ond there, olthough you con certoinly use it to

ond every lime we wenl there we would solule her: "Hello

get her number. lt is more obout being o guy who knows how to flirt,

Generol, how ore you todoy? Whot ore our orders?" She would

becquse flirting, combined with soying

hi,

combined with osking

fie time. So we nicknomed her

the Generol,

iust crock up.

'!Vho/s ihe story behind lhol?," combined with the Romontic Questions,
combined with giving risks, combined with everything else in this book,
is whot not only gets you

o dote but gets you o dote with o womon who

We hod o running ioke obout her being on ormy spy. We'd osk her,

'Are you here spying or ore you here for some covert operotion?"

hos been primed ond tested ond who is more thon likely reody to be

And she would soy, 'Yep, l'm here spying." We'd soy somefiing

romontic or even sexuol with you well before the dote even hoppens.

like "So, you're here to see whot is going on in this sficre in cose

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you hwe to moke o ficcticol move, right?" And she'd soy something

Bosicolly, onywhere you encounrer o womon you should be osking your-

like "l'd tell you, but l'd hove to kill you." lt wos reolly fi.,n, ond

self,

when we'd come in, her eyes would light up ond she would reolly

oulrogeous or silly question? Whot con I creotively misinterpret in this

look brword to tolking to us.

situolion thot might be funny?"

'tvhot

is there in this situofion obour which r con osk some sort of

Here's onolher exomple: We were in New York City on o beoutiful

spring doy once doing some promotion for one of our books ond
we were wolking down the street ond these three beoutiful women
come out of this noil spo. They hod iust hod their noils done ond

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lhey were odmiring lhem, ond I sqid to lhem, "Oh, i/s the beoutiful
noil women! You musl be here to show the world your beoutiful

when you proctice sifuotionol Flirting with o womon, you show thot

noils. Con we see?" They were thrilled fic show us their new noils.

you're not iust o friend becouse you're ploying with her in o woy thot o

We told them how beoutiful they looked ond how beoutiful their

lowly mole friend never would.

noils looked ond they were loughing ond giggling. We ioked obout
how they musi be getting reody to be in on internotionol noil conlest

You're interrupting her ot o deeper level ond inlecting yourself into her

ond they thought it wos greot. lt wos reolly fun for us

consciousness. This shows her thot you're the kind of guy who con go

trco.

ofter whot he wonts ond con moke things hoppen.


Here ore some ploces where you con try out your Situotionol Flirting
skills todoy:

. The heolth club


. The moll
. The bonk or credil union
. The coffee shop

You provide pleosure for the womon. you creote

of her normql life.

A reslouronl

A bookstore

o The video store

o An)ryvhere else you find yourself

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moke-believe

world together, which is o welcome relief from the difficulty ond redium

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. A shop
. A line

The subwoy or troin

o little

situotionql Flirting olso brings out o ployful port of yourself, which

is

se4y to women. Remember, silliness ond sexiness hove o close relotion-

ship. When you flirt ond ore silly with o womon ond provide her with

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with o womon, you leove the interoction chorged up, with higher selF

otes q self-reinforcing rycle: the more you proctice it with women, the

more energy you hove, ond the more you wont to do it with women.

And thot's good.

We're now going to toke fli*ing to the next level with o process colled

Deepening. Deepening is o woy of toking onything o womon soys to


you ond turning it into o bonding conversorion. Deepening is oboui hoving on intimote tolk ond developing ropport.

This is port of

o series of

steps thot leods to osking o womon out ond

getting the dote. Hi leods to osking '!vhot's the story behind thor?,,
which con leod to Deepening. Deepening then moves into Romonric
conversotions ond osking for the number. When you feel comfortoble
with this progression ond hove some experience trying it our on women,

you'll quickly become o pro.


Whot exoctly is Deepening? Deepening is o conversorionor mode thor
ollows you to get inro o womon's world ond find out whot she's possionole obout. Deepening is o woy for you to ocknowledge, ond help
her ocknowledge, whot she cores obout. Deepening is powerfur becouse
mosl women oren'r used to being recognized in woys

fiot feel romonlic. Most women don't see themselves os speciol ond oren't used to
other
people seeing them os speciol. When you're oble ro see the possionote
ond speciol ports of o womon ond feed ir bock to her, she,ll feel o bond
with you' with Deepening, you con develop o connection wirh o womon
without bomboozling her.

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ot o womon, check out her body, compliment her, keep your body pow-

You osk o womon questions obout her possions qnd interests.

Bosed on whot she tells you, you describe her possions ond interests

for her so she feels ocknowledged ond

sees the detqils

erful ond whisper to her, your chonces of hoving o successful Deepening


Conversotion ore greotly increosed.

of her life in

This is only o lesl... When you conduct o Deepening conversotion,

o new ond positive woy.

you qre testing to see if o womon might be someone you wont to go out
with. You ore festing to see if she likes you ond if you like her. Eventuolly,

you'll either tolk obout topics she's possionote obout or you should prob-

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Focus on

obly end lhe conversotion ond move on lo someone else.

whqt q womqn is possionote qbout.

The purpose

of Deepening is to look for oreos in o womon's life where she feels possion ond feed it bock to her. You ore volidoting ospecls of her life thot
most people do not see or ocknowledge. When you show o womon thot
she's speciol, she

Be

on the lookout for openings to osk for o dole, phone number, or emoil

oddress. Wotch

for

chonces

to osk for

these things. The gool of

Deepening is for women to hove positive experiences with you, hove


lhem expose ports of themselves to you thot they rorely expose to ony-

will feel oppreciotive ond bond with you.

one else ond then hove them feel enough sofeiy ond ropport to go out

Poy oilenrion to deroils.

Poy otiention to the detoils of whot the

womon is soying ond look for woys t'c feed bock those detoils

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with you.

her in o

romontic woy.

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Avoid the Deepening trop. When you ore osking o

womon

Deepening Questions, sometimes she'll mention negotive ospects of her

life. l/s importont to ovoid topics thot she is upsel obout. When bod
things come up, redirect lhe conversotion to whot is working in her life

DAVID: Here's o recent exomple of o Deepening Conversotion I hod ot


o porty. I wos tolking to o womon ond osked her o simple queslion.
DAVID: So whot do you do for o living?

ond whot she's most interested in.


CASSIE: l'm o sociqlworker.

Alwoys include the Romontic Moves. To insure

lhot you come

ocross os o romontic possibility, you need to use the Romontic Moves. lf

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DAVID: Wow, thofs reolly interesting. You must see oll sorts of things
in o iob like thot.

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CASSIE: Wow, thoi is reolly greot thot you see thot too...

DAVID: Where do you work?

RON: Le/s tqlk obout this exomple. You got her tolking obout whot
she is most possionole obout ond then you resficfigd it bock trc her,

CASSIE: lwork down ot the hospitol.

which is how Deepening works.

DAVID:

Let me osk you

o question. ln every iob there ore ospects thot

hrs

o simple question ond hoving the conversotion become more intimote

you dislike ond moments when you feel like you reolly don't like

ond personol. From there, Dovid could hove built up to osking

whot you ore doing, but then lhere ore moments when you feel

her phone number or osking

like you reolly ore doing whot you were pul on eorth to do.

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DAVID: ln this Deepening Conversotion

would be curious to know, if you would core to shore, whol ore

I wos oble to get

o lot of

informotion from her. She seemed very interested in tolking to me

some of lhose moments for you?

ond gove lengthy onswers to eoch of my questions.


CASSIE: Well, I help the fomilies of children who ore getting orgon
tronsplonts. I do oll the coordinoting ond I olso deolwith oll of

their emotions.

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CASSIE: Yes, il's on omozing iob. And lhere ore times when I om

DAVID: Whot do you do?

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working with fomilies ond I reolly do feel like you soid, like I om
SOPHIE: l'm on occountonl.

doing whot I wos put on eorth here to do. I get the surgery ond
the orgons coordinqted. I get the kids reody ond I get the fomilies

DAVID: I find occounting interesting. ln my business l,ve been studying

reody ond it is like I become o member of their fomily for o while.

some occounfing lotely- lt must reolly feel omozing when you ore

oble line up oll those numbers ond oll those columns. lt must feel

DAVID: Wow, thot is reolly incredible. You must reolly be o womon

incredible when you hove evefihing bolonced ond everything

who volues moking o difference in people's lives.

is

perfectly in order.
CASSIE: I reolly do, thot is whot I reolly love obout my iob.
SOPH lE: Yes, tho/s exoctly whot

DAVID: I don't get to see thot kind of o thing in o womon every doy.

ifs like.

reolly oppreciotre seeing thot in you, ifs reolly inspiring to me.

DAVID: Lefs tolk obout this exomple. ln this exomple I come up with o
woy to bed bock to her the exciiement of those best moments in
occounling, When I fed thot bock to her I wos oble to see some-

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thing in her life thot most guys do not see. Most guys would hove

h's importonl to remember thqt some women hote their jobs. So

soid something like "So, whol kind of softwore do you use os on

you osk, 'tVhot do you do for o living?" o womon might soy

occounlont?" Bul I wos oble to see the mogic of hoving oll the

something like,

numbers line up. When I reflected her possion bock to her, her

reolly hote it." Then if you osk her if there is onything she likes

eyes got big ond shiny.

obout her iob, she's likely to soy, "No." lf thot hoppens, here,s

RON: One thing thot lwont to highlight in Dovid's exomple is thot he


took o risk when he described to the occounlonl whot might be
exciting obout her iob. I like thot he soid, "l finolly found on ongle
thot I thought might work." Lel's underline the phrose "mighl

work." When you ore hoving Deepening Conversotions, you're


going to be toking risks ond trying things out ond somelimes

"lwork for o dentist. I om his receptionist ond

if

how to hondle it. We recommend you soy, "Okoy, I would be curious to know, if you ore willing to shore, whot is it thot you ore
possionote obout? Whqt is it in your life, if it is not your
iob, ond

for q lot of us it reolly isn't our iob, thot reolly turns you on os o
womon ond mokes you feel like you ore reolly doing something
you love?"

folling flot on your foce. Dovid ond I hove enough experience,


ond hove foiled enough, thot we hove o clue of whot might work
ond whqt might not work, bul the only woy for you to get to o
ploce where you know whot works is through triol ond error.

DAVID: With both of my exomples, I could hove chosen lo osk less


intimote queslions-queslions thot would hove mode me more of o

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Ron tolked to q womon recently who told him she hoted her
iob. So he

knew to ovoid osking her obout it. lnsteod, he osked whot she,s most
possionote obout in her life.

friend thon o romontic possibility. With the sociol worker, for exomple, I could hove soid, "Oh, where do you work? ls thot o good
iob? Wow, whot ore the hours like?" Those would hove been questions thot would hove kept me in the friend zone. lnsleod I osked,

'Whd

is it obout thot thot mokes you possionote, thot mokes you

feel turned on?" When I met the occountont, I come bock with, "lt
must

hel incredible when you hove every'hing bolonced." She

soid,'Yes."

KATE: I love qnimols ond I volunteer ot the pet shelter.

RON: Thofs interesling. Whot ore fhe best moments when you're volunteering ot the pet shelter?

KATE: Some of the best moments for me ore when o dog comes in
ond they ore sick ond I om oble to work with them qnd nurse them
bock to heolth. I spend time with them ond then o fomily comes in
ond odopts them. lt mokes me reolly hoppy when everything
works out well. lt mokes me feel like I hove mode o difference in
the world.

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RON: Wow, I con see you qre o womon who reolly volues moking o

times I write obout heolth issues. one of the best ports of my


iob is
thot I trovel ond wrire freelonce orticles for trovel mogozines. All

difference, ond thofs wonderful.

of my interests tie together.

KATE: Yeoh, I reolly do volue helping people. Thonk you, thofls nice to
heor you soy thot.

RON: Le/s stop for o second. How is the conversotion going, Dovid?

RON: Well, I don't meel women every doy who ore so focused on

DAVID: l'm hoppy with it ot this point. As we exomine odditionol

helping people. I think tho/s reolly speciol ond I cqn see thot you

exomples of Deepening, you'll see how we go from osking whot

ore o speciol womon.

she does for o living to whot she,s possionote obout. I olreody


osked Heidi whot she likes to wrire obour, which is o woy to storr

RON: The point of this exomple is thot o Deepening Conversotion con

exploring whot she's possionole obout. By

go well when you osk o womon whot she's possionote obout in

ry

osking personol

queslions, she sees me os o guy who is interested in whot she hos

her life ond ovoid focusing on her iob. Asking o womon whot

to soy ond who cores obout her life.

she's possionote obout in her life is o good woy to shift the topic

whenever she mentions thot her iob sucks. lt's o good technique to

RoN: A big port of Deepening is poying ottention to detoils.

Romonce

use when o womon storts tolking obout ony ospect of her life thot

is in the detoils. lt would hove been eosy for Dovid to soy, ,,Oh,

is difficult, stressful or chollenging. You con eosily move on to

you're o cook ond you write, whot else do you like to do?',lnsteod

more pleosont topics by osking her whot she's possionote obout.

of overlooking $e defoils ond osking mundone, generol quesrions,


Dovid wos oble to dig deeper into specific interests of Heidi's ond
feed them bock to her.

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go bock ond look ot more of Dovid,s conversqfion.

DAVID: So Heidi, you seem inleresting to tolk to. l'd be curious to


know whot you do for o living?

DAVID: I see how it oll kind of fits togetheri the cooking, the troveling

HEIDI: l'm o writer ond q cook. I cook for o couple of people who ore

ond writing obour restouronrs ond food. Tho/s inreresting,

it

is

olmost os if there is this whole lifestyle oround cooking ond writing

reolly busy. Both of my iobs ore pretty fun.

for you.

DAVID: Thot sounds interesting. Whot do you like

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write obout?
HEIDI: Yes, tho/s very much whoi my life is obout. Those ore my key

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DAVID: I know thot in every kind of iob or coreer there qre ports of it

DAVID: When I om cooking o meol, it's nice to be in o kitchen where

thot kind of suck. Moybe it sucks to be woshing the dishes or cleon-

everything is humming olong. You've got oll these different pots of

ing o kitchen, but I olso know there ore other moments thot ore reol-

food cooking, oll the ingredients qre cut up ond you reolly feel like

ly stellor-momenls where you reolly hel like this is whot you were

you ore on top of it oll.

pul on this eorth to do. I would be curious to know whot some of


HEIDI: I love thot feeling. Thofs q good woy ro describe whot i/s like

those moments ore for you.

to be cooking o multi-course meol.

RON: I wonl

irc

butt in here ogoin. One of the clossic Dovid lines is whot

DAVID: Somelimes l've got o zillion things going ond l,m doing one

he iust osked Heidi. l/s o greot phrose.

thing with one hond ond something else with onother. There ore

DAVID: Here's onother question I recommend:

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might be one of

mony pots of food oll cooking ond eoch pot is cooking ot o differ-

those moments where you feel the work you ore doing is reolly turn-

ent temperoture ond everything is going olong


iust perfectly.
sometimes iust get lost in the process.

ing you on?" When you osk thot question or lhe one I iust put to
Heidi, the womon you're tolking to will hove to slort exploring her

Yes, thot's o wonderful feeling.

life in o new woy. Let's look ol the conversotion some more.

RON: Le/s iump in ond moke some commenb obout where this con-

HEIDI: Like I soid before, I reolly like to trovel, ond i/s greot thot I con

versotion is going.

trovel so frequently. I reolly enioy meeting new people ond seeing


new ploces. Somelimes I om flying somewhere ond I think, 'lVow,

DAVID: t told Heidi thot she contribures to people,s lives through her

om getting poid to do this."

writing ond her cooking. I decided thot it wos more powerful to


look ot how she contributes to people's lives rother thon osking

DAVID: You ore moking o contribufion lo people's lives, loo. ln both the

whot she likes to cook or some less personol queslion. From there

foods you ore cooking ond in your wriling you're moking o differ-

wos oble to odmire the foct

ence in people's heolth.

fiot

she mokes o difference in peo-

ple's lives ond then feed it bock to her.

HEIDI: Tho/s true.

lom reolly interested in heolth ond nutrition. I like


RON: ln these exomples of Deepening you con see how we ore oble

teoching people qbout it becouse I believe the emotionol, physicol

to describe to women the exciting ports of their lives in woys they

ond spirituol ospects of life ore oll connected.

do not usuolly see. We ore volidoting something thot they don,t


DAVID: Thofs cool. l've done o lot of cooking myself.

normolly ossociote with themselves. When we ocknowledge those

HEIDI: Thofs greot!

things, like Dovid did with Heidi, we bond with the women.

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inleresled in cooking. As o generol rule, you should limit how

like you're doncing with it. There is olso the moment with the pres-

much you shore obout yourself, ot first. lt never ceoses to omoze

entotion where you ore octuolly putting the food out. I don't know

me how often I rediscover lhot women ore not interested in men

if you ever think obout putting the food on the plote ond how

during the initiol conversolions.

beoutiful it looks on the tqble.

HEIDI: Oh yes, I om reolly picky obout thot. When I used to cook in o

I decided thot it wos okoy to mention thot I om into cooking

becquse I thought it would be o bonding detoil. I olso thought

reslouront, I didn't let onyone else do the finishing of the dish.

could use my interest in cooking os o springboord to stort describ-

think it is reolly importont for me to hove it bolonced visuolly ond

ing good feelings ossocioted with cooking. So I tolked obout how

to hove o nice color controst going on with the different foods thot

good it feels to hove severol things cooking ol once ond how eosy

ore on the plote. lt is definitely on ortistic thing ond I reolly

it is to get lost in the process.

express myself through the presentotion of food.

RON:

Yes, thot wos

o good segue for her to tolk obout her experience

DAVID: Those moments ore reolly speciol. There is ollthe setup ond

os o cook. Since you ore octuolly into cooking it wos o good

oll the preporolion, ond then you toke o second ond look ot oll the

move. There is no reoson to lie or even be misleoding to get

food ond feel oll the effort you iust put into creoting somefiing

women into your life or into your bed.

wonderful. You reolize thot in 20 minutes the food will be gone,

DAVID: When I menlioned oll the pots going ol once ond being in the
flow of cooking, I knew she would relole to thot description. When

When you ore oble conduct o Deepening Conversolion ond include


the Romontic Moves, you will reolly stond oul from other men.

but there is thol perfecl moment iust before you serve the food. Do

you know whot l'm soying?


HEIDI: Yes, I do. l've hod thot experience frequently in my life ond i/s

she responded, I could see her eyes light up, ond she smiled.

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continue on with the conversotion ond see where it goes.

HEIDI: lfs octuolly like putting on o show or something, becouse you


hove oll these little components coming together ot once. I cooked

in restquronls for yeors ond often hod the experience of people


working together to prepore something wonderful to eot. I know
exoctly thot feeling you're tolking obout.

DAVID: l've noliced thot there is o flow when I om cooking; ifs olmost

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reolly speciol. lt's reolly exhiloroting.

DAVID: I con see thol ortist in you. I see the ortistry in getting the food
perfect for people ond the qrlistic presenlotion. A wonderful meol
is something so creolive ond reolly gives people on experience.
The right meol is so memoroble. You put together o meol, you put

it in front of your guests ond it is perfect in every woy. You've


mode o reol contribution, which is greot.

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RON: Lefs iump in ogoin. So how ore things going, Dovid?

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tion hos gotten more inlense ond we're getting olong well. First

Megon. This conversolion is o greot exomple of Deepening ond

off, there wos tolk obout how greot it feels to be in o kitchen. ln


the bock of my mind I wos soying,

'lVell, I know lwonl her to be

goes through the Deepening structure we've been teoching you.

feeling o sense of connection lo me, ond l'm seeing things in her

stort by osking Megon qbout her iob, ond the conversotion unfolds

life thot she doesn't get to shore with mosl people." So I osked

nicely from there.

myself whot else in

fie oreo of cooking might be o moment where

DAVID: Whot do you do in your life thot reolly inspires you?

she would feel those reolly good feelings? When I osked myself

thol question, I decided lo mention thot the moment of presentotion


is

o moment where you might feel reolly good. So I osked her

obout the presenlolion. Heidi seemed to get off on thot question.

MEGAN: lt's reolly importont to me to hove iobs thot inspire me. For
yeors I hod o iob thot I iust loved. I wos in chorge of o smoll-town
Chomber of Commerce, ond they thrived on tourism. I hod o boll

told her, "l con see thot ortist in you." She responded positively to

working lhere, coming up with new ideos ond promoting the

thot.

town.

You con see

#ot Deepening is not gimmicky stuff. You con tell from

Heidi's comments thot she volues orl, creotivity ond selFexpression.

om not using cheesy lines with Heidi, l'm trying lrc find woys to moke
o deeper conneclion.

DAVID: lt sounds like there were o lot of moments in thot iob where
you reolly felt like you were doing whot you were put on eorth to
do.

MEGAN: Yes, I conslontly felt like lwos doing my life's work. When

hod o new ideo, everyone got behlnd it ond implemented it.


By the woy, my conversotion with Heidi

will continue in the next

chopter.

Sometimes the iob wos reolly difficuh. Sometimes the people in ihe

community were hord lo work with or there would be unexpected


problems. ln the end, however, when eoch proiect wos over, everyone wos olwoys hoppy ond I wos responsible for oll the success.

DAVID: Thofs o greot feeling when you hove finished o big proiect.
h's wonderful to look ot

scones, the things

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oll the work thot you did behind the

no one will even know you did, ond see

whot on occomplishment it is lo complete such o greot proieci.

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MEGAN: Allthose nights lwould be up lote, counting things or putling

RON: Whoi ore you possionote obout in your life?

pockets trcgether, I olwoys feh like it wos oll worth it in the end.
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DAVID: Thot is reolly greot.

RRI: Music is one thing I reolly like. I recently storted singing ond

l'm olso leorning how to ploy the guitor.

RON: Thofs greot. I love the guiior ond l've been ploying for o long

RON: Le/s iump in here. Your thoughts, Dovid?


DAVID: When you're iust getting lo know o womon it often mokes
sense lc tqlk qbout sob ond gentle subiects ond then

loer build into

time. I don't meet mony women who ore ospiring guitor pros.
TERRI: I iust love music.

A friend of mine is o guitor ployer ond wonF

heovier, more romontic tolk. We wont to reiterole thot Deepening

ed me to slort leorning so we could ploy together. I thought the

conversotions ore oll obout creoling o connection with o womon

guitor might be more fun thon the drums.

thot hos her feel like you see somelhing in her thot most people do

nol see. Being oble tc see things in o womon thot most men don't
see creofies on emolionolconnection.

With Megon lwonted to focus

on tolking obout her iob ond on getting

know her os o woy lc

stort the bonding process.

RON: I ploy guitor, so I know whot thot is like when you ore ploying
ond you get lost in the music ond you feel like "this is greot' ond

you lose yourself for o few moments in the music.


TERRI: Yes, I know whqt it feels like to lose myself in music. I hove o
question for you, did you sing with other people when you were

ploying?

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RON: Yeoh, I ployed in bonds for o long time. lwos olso o touring

ln this conversolion, look ot how Ron keeps deepening the conversotion

with Terri. Ron gets owoy with being very direct with Terri. Depending

musicion for o few yeors.

DAVID: I wonl to iump in here for o moment ond look ot how

Ron

on your personolity, being silly, obnoxious ond sort of pushy with

went quickly went from tolking obout music to tolking obout the

women might work. Whot mokes this exomple with Ron work is thot he

moment where you ore ploying music ond getting lost in the

is ployfulwith Terri but only octs silly in the conlext of ropport building.

process. He is looking for moments where Terri feels possionote.

He conlinues to osk her questions obout whqfls importont

lo her ond

He is toking whot she's tolking obout, which is music, ond looking

whot she's possionote obout. You con get owoy with being o bod boy

for woys to feed it bock to her in o romontic monner. Let's go bock

when you combine moking o connection, being respectful, hoving fun

ond reod more.

ond pushing the limits oll ot once. When you only ioke oround ond only
oct obnoxiously, o womon will not connect with you.

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RON: The oct of ploying music is o lot of fun. You know the feeling of

RON: All right, set $e mood for me. Lefls soy you invite me over to lis-

getting lost in music ond being oble to sponloneously creote some-

ten to you sing ond ploy guitor. Lel's soy you invite me over for o

thing reolly bequtiful?

privolre listening porty, whot would the mood of it be? Whofls the

experience like for you when you ore sitting there listening to

TERRI: Yeoh, I hove wriften some songs ond it's fun.

music thot you love?

RON: Thofs greot thol you've been oble lo write music.


DAVID:

Let's breok

DAVID:

in here ogoin for o second. Ron tolks obout getting

lost in music ond she does not reolly onswer. So he goes bock ond
tries to qsk her o similor queslion. Ron disploys tenocity in thot he
hos to keep guiding lhe conversoiion into romonlic spoces no mot-

point,

in. How is this conversotion going for you ot this

Ron?

RON: At this point I om trying to moke the big shift into osking for her
phone number ond/or osking for the dote. We've tolked obout
music ond I feel like our ropport is pretty good. So now I wont to

ler how Terri replies. When you ore hoving Deepening


Conversotions, ifs importont thot you keep guiding o womon

toword possionote conversofions ond possionote trcpics. Eventuolly,


you'll either successfully iurn lhe conversolion to something

Let's iump

try to test her ond see how receptive she is to the ideo of me coming over to her ploce. lf she's unreceptive

lwill go bock in ond do

more Deepening, ond if she's open I will osk for the number.
she's

possionote obout or you'll probobly wont to stop tolking to her.


Le/s look of some more:

Another odvontoge of testing Terri by osking how she'd feel to


hove me over lo her ploce is thot it tokes the conversotion lo o
much deeper oreo.

RON: Tho/s greot thot you've been oble to wrile music.

DAVID: Another thing Ron did in thot segment of the conversotion

TERRI: I reolly enioy writing music ond l'm focused much more on

wos to ovoid the trop of osking her why her iob sucks. Mony of us

music these doys thon on my job. Music iust reolly iuices me up

foll into $e trop of trying to be compossionote mon ond coring by

these doys.

osking her obout work problems. Hoving o womon tolk obout


oreos of her life thot ore not going well is generolly o bod ideq. lt

RON: Do you go see live music o lot?

is o woy to kill o seduction. Luckily, Ron ovoids thot trop ond storts

Terri: I don't see mony live bonds right now. l've mostly been focusing

on leorning how to ploy the guitor ond olso on creoting my own


music. l've been reolly unhoppy with my iob these doys, but music
hos been reolly fun.

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house. This is where he storts pushing the limits.

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RON: I wonbd to osk her o ploful ond silly question so thot if she

DAVID: As you con see Ron wos working to noil down o dote with

didn't wont to go out with me my comments would sound like o


ioke. At the some time, if she is intrerested in me she knows thot

her. He soid, "l could come over ond help you if you wont me to."
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It seems like their conversotion is heoding towords o dote ond

om inlerested in going out with her. I like testing women in o

Terri seems receptive to going out with him. She's osking Ron if he

humorous monner becouse I leorn o lot obout where I should toke

con sing hormony ond she's wondering if he knows how to use

the conversotion next.

recording equipment-oll good signs. You con olso see thot he's
not octing like o friend, lhere's o romontic feel obout lhe converso-

Let's listen

lo Terri's onswer:

tion.

TERRI: My choice in music reolly chonges o lot. lf I om ploying guitrcr

ln the next chopler, we'll look ot severol more conversotions ond leorn

ond singing then il's probobly folksy, ocoustic music, nothing

Advonced Deepening skills. But let's go over whot you've leqrned so for.

foncy. Tho/s the style of music I like ploying the most.

The Deepening process seems pretty simple when you reod obout it, but

RON: Okoy, lefs set the scene ogoin. You've invitred me to your ploce
ond you ore serenoding me ond I om wotching you closely. Thot

conducting

o Deepening

Conversolion con sometimes be confi.rsing.

Here ore some key poinls to remember:

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TERRI: Are you going to sing olong?

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RON: Not ot this second, but I would if I wos with you ot your ploce.

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TERRI: Do you know hormony? Con you sing hormony with me?

Focus on

RON: Sure, thofd be greotl

Deepening is to look for oreqs in o womon's life where she feels possion

whct q womqn is possionofe oboul.

The purpose of

ond feed it bock to her. You ore volidoting ospects of her life thot most
TERRI: Gon you help me operote my four-trock recorder? I hoven't figured oUf how to use it ond l'd like to record myself singing some

people do not see or qcknowledge. When you show o womon thqt she's

speciol, she will feel oppreciotive ond bond with you.

of the songs l've writlen. Are you good with recording equipment?

RON: l've done quite o bit of recording ond would hove fun ploying
oround

wifi your four-trock mochine. I could come over ond help

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womon is soying ond look for woys to feed bock those deirils
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Avoid the Deepening trop. As we

mentioned before, when you

peok, where you hel irotrrlly turned on? I would be curious

ore osking o womon Deepening Questions, somelimes she'll mention


negofive ospects of her life. lfs importont to qvoid topics thot she is upset

obout. When bod things come up, redirect lhe conversolion to whot is

know, if

you would core tc shore, whol ore some of those momenls tor yov?"

Another simple question to osk o womon is 'Whot ore you mosl


possionote obout in your life?"

working in her life ond whot she's most interested in.

Alwoys include the R.omqntic Moves. As we olso soid

before,

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to insure thot you come ocross os o romonlic possibility, you need to use

the Romontic Moves. lf you hold eye conloct loo long, moke decisions

Here ore two fiings you con do to slort using this skill in your interoc-

quickly ond eosily, wink ot o womon, check out her body, compliment o

tions with women:

womon, keep your body powerful ond whisper to her, your chonces of
hoving o successful Deepening Conversotion ore greotly increosed.

Look for opportunities lo hove Deepening Conversotions ond slort

This is only o test... ln these exomples, you con see how Ron ond

osking some of the Deepening Questions.


T
Stort to qsk Vhot do you do for o living?" qnd T Vhot is it thot

Dovid were testing the womon's ottroction ond receptivity by using the

you find reolly touches your heort? I know some moments qre reol-

Deepening conversotionol structure to push things o little. You should do

ly difficult but $ere ore these moments where you feel like you

this, too.

were put here on eorlh to do thot thing. Whot ore those moments
tor you?" Experiment, ond stort hoving Deepening Conversotions.o

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A good woy to slorl o Deepening Conversolion is to osk o womon
whot she does for o living. This is o low-pressure question ond
most women

will feel comfortoble onswering it.

Dovidt Deepening Question: "l know thot in every kind of iob or


coieer there ore ports of it thot kind of suck ond other moments ore
reolly stellor where you reolly feel like this is whot you were put on
this eorth to do. You know those moments where you reoch the

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exomples

of

Deepening

conversolions. We'll olso include severol Advonced Deepening skills.


By the end of this chopter you'll be crystol cleor on how to initiote ond

monoge Deepening Conversotions. ln the next chopter, we,ll show you


how to move from Deepening conversqtions to Romontic conversolions.

ln this chopter you will get o much cleorer sense of how to move from
Deepening conversotions to osking for phone numbers ond how to toke
the seduction fo the next level.

Here's o preview of the Advonced Deepening Skills you,re going to leorn

in this chopter:

Why Deepening Conversotions with women sometimes foil

How to include yourself when describing scenes to o womon

How ond why you musf ossume ropport

The importonce of hoving fun when tolking to women

How to osk open-ended questions

How to evoke informotion thot o womon would never shore with

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How lo use Deepening Conversotions to creote q conneclion

How to ure Deepening lo odmire women

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mosl possionote oboul?" ond

'lVhot ore you

'lVhot ore the postcord moments

fhot you will remember for the rest

of your life?"

SUE: I hove to go bock to the orts becouse thot is my fovorite thing.

like to go to orl openings, ort shows ond I om o very progressive


person. I like oll kinds of qrt but especiolly modern ort. I like being
creolive ond I like creotive people. I olso enioy live music ond

Why you should ovoid pushing o womon during Deepening

hove o wide ronge of musicol interesfs, from clossicol to


iozz ond

Conversotions

blues.

The importonce oI "you" stotremenls

How to toke on o "you" point of view

Why you must shut up ond listen

How Deepening is like fishing

Whot to do if women turn the tobles on you

How Deepening Conversotions con leod to touching or kissing

How osking 'tVho/s the best port of it?" con offen sove the doy

RON: l'm o big music fon too. Do you frequenily go see live music?
SUE: I go to os mony concerts os

RON: Would going to o concert be something you'd consider o

fr,ln

dqle?

DAVID:

Lefls lump

in here. Sue gove Ron o lot of informotion ond he

instontly moved in o romontic direction with thot lost question. He


So here we go: lights, comero/ more Deepening!

is leorning informotion obout her interests ond plonting the ideo in

her heod thot they might go on o dote.

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RON: I om olso ossuming ropport, which is reolly cruciol. I om ossum-

ing thot she's into tolking to me ond into being with me. l/s cruciol

RON: This is q conversotion with Sue. Note how lgo from osking her
whot she's possionote obout to moving lhe conversotion into o
romonlic ond sery direction. This conversotion is o good exomple

of how quickly you con move from simple Deepening Questions to

lo ossume the best when you're with o womon. Mony of our sludents ore so used to hoving conversolions

wifi women go poorly

thot they olwoys ossume the worsl. When you ossume o womqn
doesn't like you ond is not enioying being with you, you come
ocross os owkwqrd ond uncomfortoble. When you're tolking to

romontic tolk.

do your besl to ossume ropport ond your confidence will

RON: Sue, whot is it thot you ore possionote obout? You mentioned
eorlier thol you ore interested in ort ond olso into being o biker
bgbe, but I om curious obout your other interests. Whot else ore

ln Deepening, we're looking ot whot o womon is possionote obout

ond inbrerlad in. So eorly on I om focused on finding out

you possionote obout in your life?

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intororlr ond porsions, lt is obvious thot she is into ort, creotivity,

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Pick o situotion you wonl to describe, such os o fun dote, o greoi

ond flirtotious ond there is o lot of eye contocl, so I wont to bring up

trip, o vocotion or o conceri.

romonlic topics right owoy. Mony of our sludents woit too long

lmogine thot you ore describing her in thot situotion ond odd

before pushing conversotions in o romontic direction. Our students

detoils lo lhe scene to moke il more intimote. lf you leorn thol she's

often think they need to woit until the end of o conversolion to bring

inlo ort, you could osk yourself whot obout being in on orl gollery

up romontic lopics, but ifls often better to bring up romontic topics

would moke it more intimote. Perhops you imogine drinking wine

eorly on. lf there is o spoce to osk Romqnlic Questions, go for it.

ol on ort opening ond getting lost in o conversoiion. Moybe you


imogine looking ot the ort ond opprecioting its beouty. Moybe you

To turn up lhe romonce with Sue, I osked her whot o greot dote

would look like to her. I wonted

imogine ifs on elegonl ort opening ond everyone looks so beouti-

osk her questions thot creole

ful ond you iust look ot eoch other ond smile ond feel so hoppy.

openings for me to osk her out. I olso wonted to osk her questions
thot would quickly show me whether or not she'd be open to going

Whotrever lhe scene, you odd intimote detoils.

out with me.

Put yourself in the scene. The

imoginory scene would feoture the

two of you ot on elegont ort opening, borh looking greot ond reol-

ly hoving o fun time. Or moybe both of you ore drinking wine ot


on ort opening ond hoving o fun time loughing ond smiling ot

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both of you ore storing ol the beoutiful ort on the wolls ond get-

ting lost in it together.


lnsteod of describing

o greol concerl or o wonderful piece of ort,

in

Advonced Deepening, you describe o sifuotion where you ond she ore
together ot o concerl or on ort museum. lnsteod of describing o fun orl

Now describe this scene to the womon. Yes, you eventuolly hove
to toke the risk to tolk. You need lo open your mouth ond creole
some of these situotions when tolking to lhe womon you ore with.

gollery or museum, you describe o scene where both of you ore ot on


ort gollery or museum looking ot ort. lnsteod of describing o romontic
condlelit dinner, you describe o romonlic dinner where the two of you
ore drinking wine ond hoving o greot time.

Afier you hove some clues obout the things o womon is interesled in, we
recommend you follow this four-step sequence o few times during eoch
Deepening Conversotion.

When you describe romonlic scenes with the two of you, il's lust one
more woy for her to stort imogining you os o potentiol lover. The process

goes like this:

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When we left off with this chot, Ron hod iust osked if Sue thought going

ed ond being interesting oll work together.

lo o concert would be o fun dote.


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in some more:

SUE: l'd enioy going to o concerl. l'd even enjoy iust going to o bor
RON: You've convinced me. I om reody to toke you oul, ond we leove

ond listening lo some live blues. Nothing is more fun thon hoving

tonight. l/s our secret operotion.

fun, drinking ond doncing your feet off.

SUE: [Loughs] I wont to explore the whole world, which is my possion.

RON: Well, whot qbout going on rides on the bock of o Horley?

I hove o gool to trovel oround the world before I die.

SUE: I think thot would be greot too. l'm on odventurous person ond

love bikes. So my ideo of o good time would be lo just get in the


cor, or get on o bike if it is o nice night, ond iust heod out some-

reolly go for whol they wont. I meet o lot of women who wont lo

where ond moybe iusl go oll night ond foll osleep where we end

go for it, but most don'f hove the guts lo go out ond reolly do

up-moybe iust sleep outside under the stors. I think thot would be
so much fun.

DAVID: Le/s iump in. How

it.

SUE: I hove been to Europe ond Mexico, but I reollywont to go to

Asio ond Austrolio. The next trip I om plonning is to visit Asio.


is this going?

DAVID: Lel's iump in ogoin. ls fiere ony'hing you wont to soy,

RON: I om getting o lot of useful informotion from Sue. I om osking

Ron?

RON: lwos feeling closer ond closer to osking her out. lwos hoppy

questions ond getting informolion on where to possibly toke her

with the poce ond depth of the conversotion. Sue seemed to be

on o dote. I om qlso osking her questions thot will hove her think

hoving o good time tolking to me ond we were bonding.

of going out with me. Lostly, I om hoving fun tolking to her.

RON: Where hove you troveled? I don't meet o lot of women who

I used humor to connecl with her. Turning o dote inlo o secret

Hoving fun when tolking to o womon is reolly importont. lf o con-

operotion mode it more fun ond exciting. I took the conversotion

versotion is not fun i/s often o sign thot the womon is not inlerest-

into o different direction ond in the process we both hod fun.

ed in you. Whenever you're not hoving fun il's importont to osk

Women like to go on odventures ond they like it when you con be

yourself who/s nol working. Are you nervous? Are you trying too

ployful. When you con creote dotes fiot ore odventures, you'll

hord to get into her ponts? ls she boring you so bodly you wqnt to

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thot you ore someone who volues trying to simplify things when

ln this conversotion Dovid uses the Deepening Questions you've been


leorning.

everything seems complex. ls thot true?

LAURA: Absolutely, I keep working ot it ond olwoys try to simplify


things for myself.

We wont to worn you oheod of time thot Louro is on odd womon, bul
very ottroctive. She tolks obout wonting to simplify her life ond ot times
comes ocross like o survivolist. Are there o lot of weird women out there?
Yes!

Are there women who ore inlerested in topics you find siupid, bor-

DAVID: Whot does your vision of o simple life look like?


LAURA: Just o simple house in

fie country ond not hoving to work

much.

ing ond insone? Yes! Are there women who will soy things ond give
opinions you strongly disogree with? Yes! So it's importont thot we
include some women in this book who ore o bit odd ond off-kilter since

DAVID: Thot sounds nice ond much more loid bock.


Lel's iump in.

Hor/s this conversotion going for you, Dovid?

you're likely to encounter them in your own doting life.


DAVID: At the beginning I osked her whot else she would like to do in
ln tolking lo rondom women you will encounler women who seem odd
to you. We oll encounter women who soy unusuol things. Our tosk is to

decide if they're worth pursuing. lf so, we need to stop focusing on the

business. I wonted to throw o wide o net so she wouldn't feel cor-

nered by my queslions. You wonl lo osk women open-ended questions ond give them the room to respond how they wont.

unusuol ospects of their personolities. Once you're pursuing o womon/

horboring negotive iudgments obout her tend to get in the woy of o successful seduction. Once you're in

o relotionship, you need to ignore the

Since Louro mentioned thot she wos simplifying her life, I osked
her obout ii. ln the bock of my mind,

lwos looking for something

ospects of o womon's personolity thot bother you. lt's colled coping with

she's possiorrote obout, ond I kept osking questions until she gove

the horsh reolity.

me somefiing to work with.

LAURA: I reolly om turned on by the ideo of living in the country

DAVID: Hi Louro, nice to see you. l'm curious-whot is your iob?


LAURA: I own o smoll hotel, but I om getting out of the hotel business
to simplify my life. I olso own o computer consulting compony.

being pretty self-sufficient ond iust being oble to do whotever


wont to do.

DAVID: So you reolly volue selFsufficiency, doing whot you wont to


do ond toking it eosy?

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DAVID: Whot wos one of your books obout?


One of them wos obout my cot Snowboll.

DAVID: Thot would be o reoson to stort your own business loo, to creote something you would be oble to sell ond to do exoctly whot

you wonl lo do. Tho/s cool. I don't get to meet women every doy
lhot ore so direct in their lives. lt sounds greot to live somewhere
beoutiful ond be oble to sit in the sun ond hove o good time.

DAVID: Le/s iump in ogoin. ln ihe lost seclion I spent o lot of time volidoting her desire trc live in q secluded oreo ond simplify her life. I

DAVID: Your cot Snowboll?


H EID I

volues l'm seeing ports of her thot most people overlook. I om trrking
notice of whot is speciol to her ond whot is speciol obout her. I om

Yes, it wos o book full of little illustrotions. lfs pretty fi,rnny to

look ot.

DAVID: l'd like lo heor obout


H EID I

wont her to bel odmired. ln feeding bock to her the quolities she

it.

lt's mode out of construction poper ond eoch poge hos onother

little foct obout my cot. I wos probobly 5 when I mode it. Loter,

when I wos Z or so, I come oul with o bigger book obout unicorns.

olso listening intently tc whot she's soying. I om lislening for useful


informotion ond concenlroting on how I con turn whot she's telling

DAVID: Wow, fho/s so cool. Thofs o reolly sweef childhood imoge.


Do you feel thot now you're oble to top into thot little-kid energy

me intrc more Deepening Questions.

when you ore creoling stuff ond writing?

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ln the previous chopter Dovid tolked to Heidi. Here's the conclusion of

HEIDI: ltop into itsometimes. lcon feel itwhen lom writing for
myself but nol usuolly when I om wriling for work. I find myself

being oble to be free when I om not writing under the pressure of

o deodline.

their conversolion. ln this exomple, Dovid uses Deepening to get Heidi's

DAVID: Would you sqy thot you get those moments where you feel

phone number.

like o little girl ogoin? You know, iust letting it oll go ond feeling

hoppy ond corefree?

DAVID: How long hove you been writing?


HEIDI: l've olwoys enioyed writing. ln foct my Mom hos these funny
little books thot I wrote when I wos o kid which she held on to. lt is

reolly hilorious looking ol them.

HEIDI

RON:

Yes, definitely.
Let's breok

in here ogoin qnd dissect whot Dovid's done so for.

Tell us whot you're thinking ot this point in the conversotion.

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DAVID: Well, I knew from my previous conversotion with Heidi thot


she works os o wriler. So I osked her obout the writing. Then she

where I think, 'Wow, I om getting poid to do this, it's such o fun

told me obout the books she wrole os o kid. I odmired Heidi for

thing for me." Then there ore limes when I hove writer's block ond

writing those little books. When she tolks obout her current writing

I lust con't write ot oll ond I hove o complete lock of foith in my

I osk her obout topping into thot little-kid energy.

writing. Sometimes there ore weeks when I iust dreod writing.

I om trying to focus the conversotion on feelings lhol ore open,

As you con see, Dovid is using stondord Deepening Questions with

receptive ond sweet. l'm bringing up imoges of feeling free ond

Heidi. He is olso digging into whot she's possionote obout ot o deeper

hoppy like o little kid. You should focus on osking women obout

level. Since he knows she's o writer he is osking himself whot could be

the best moments in their lives, both post ond presenl.

momenls in her life where writing feels the best. He then osks her whot

When Heidi told me obout the books she wrole os o kid, I soid,

it's like when writing seems to flow, ond he osks her to describe those

'Wow, thqt's so cool." She wos shoring something from her heort

feelings to him.

lhere, somelhing kind of intimote. Heidi wos shoring something

with me thot she would not necessorily shore with o sfonger, so

wonted to volidote her for shoring those things wiih me.

HEIDI: lwish I could incorporote those feelings of freedom ond wonder more into my professionolwork. Sometimes I con, but il's reolly fun to let thot side out.

Deepening Question.

h/s

one of those phroses you con use over ond over

in Deepening. Whenever you con find o woy to use thot question, you'll

bring the conversolion to o deeper level ond built more intimocy.

One lesson to leqrn from this exomple is to ovoid going into negotive

DAVID: You seem like o reolly interesting womon. lt's reolly greot fiot

spoces with o womon, os we sow in the previous chopter. Heidi begon

you're doing things in life thot you're turned on by. l'm curious to

tolking obout writer's block, which is reolly o bod feeling. lnsteod of tolk-

know whot you're mosl possionote obout in your writing. Do you

ing more obout writey's block ond trying to console her, Dovid simply

hove those momenls like

'tVow this is whot I wos put here to do"

ond you feel like the writing is coming through you?

HEIDI: Yes, lgo through periods like thot. I feelthotwoywhen l'm not
thinking obout the finol product, not thinking obout whot I need to

do. I feel reolly hoppy when l'm qble to iust enioy the process-

Asking o womon 'lVhot ore you most possionole obout?" is o clossic

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redirected her ottenlion. h's utter suicide lo try to fix o womon's problems. Our suggestion is to redirect her ottention.

When Bob the bod seducer

is

with o womon ond she mentions o prob-

lem he immediotely osks her to describe the problem in greot detoil:

"Oh, writcr's block sounds terrible. Tell me more obout it. Wow, thot

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oboul o writer who hod writer's block ond she hod to be put into o psych
word

do you think thqt would ever hoppen to you?" Bob stupidly thinks

thot if he octs sympotheticolly enough ond ollows o v/omon lo shore her


deepest poin with him then she will like him. Bob in foct olienotes women

by osking so mony serious ond intense questions

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he comes ocross

os o complele downer. By osking women to describe their poin in


greoter detoil Bob shoots himself in the foot ond digs himself deeper inio

o hole thot he con'l gef out of.

DAVID: Tho/s interesting, Heidi. I don't get to meet o lot of women


who ore thot creotive. lfls fun lo heor obout your writing.
HEIDI: Thonks, I love thot kind of writing. I reolly enioy observing
people ond leorn o lot from wotching people.

DAVID: Are you observing me right now?


No, not ot oll.
DAVID: Now l'm scored. Uokinglyl

Rother thon hove Heidi tolk obout whofs not working in her life or how
often she hos wriler's block, Dovid chonges the subiect ond osks her whot
else she likes to wrile obout ond if she writes poetry. When he osks her

HEIDI: lwrite some poetry but l've never hod ony published. I don't
usuolly shore my poetry with people; i/s iust o privote thing.

DAVID: Moybe if we get to know eoch other better o time will come

questions obout whot she likes in her life he shows thot he's interested in

when you will wont to shore some poetqy with me. I understond

her, but he's not giving energy to the depressing things she's tolking

moybe now is not the right time to shore it.

oboul. He is responding by guiding lhe conversotion into o positive direction. Your iob is to guide conversolions inlo romonlic ond intimotre spoces

ond qvoid topics where o womon is likely to get depressed or feel poin.

Do you write poetry?

DAVID: No I don't. I om more of o nonfiction writer, but I know whot

ifs like to be in the flow like you were tolking obout eorlier. Where
DAVID: Whol gives you the most ioy in writing?

you foel like the words ore iust flowing through you ond it bels like
you're in the donce of writing. Those ore moments when you fuel like

Heidi: I like to go to coffee shops ond observe people. I love to eoves-

you reoch beyond whot you're normolly oble to reoch ond you come

drop on people. lt's fun for me to iust stort writing obout the person l'm

up wit*r moteriol thot is better thon who you know yourself to be.

observing ond imogine

fiol I know them. I stort writing diolog

ond

imogining thot I know whot they're thinking. Sometimes my coffee-shop

writing turns into short slories. lt's reolly fun for me to do thqt kind of
writing, i/s iust something silly I enjoy.

Yes, I know thot feeling very well.

DAVID: An importonl port of my life is hoving work situotions ond


friends in my life thot bring out the better me ond help me see
myself in o new, better light. Hoving those people oround mokes

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it is to be oble to write somelhing ond ollow someone else to

"you" Io creote cleorer imoges.

h's very useful to describe things

from o "you" point of view. Tolking to women is oll obout getting

see

something briefly through your eyes ond iust know whot it is like

them to feel things, visuolize things ond imogine things.

to be you just for o second.


Thofs why utilizing the you perspective in your speoking is so

RON:

Let's interrupt for

o second ond exomine Dovid's conversotion

importonl. lf you ore describing how greot it feels to be in the flow

with Heidi. The conversotion storted off plolul ond eosy ond now

of writing you might soy, "l feel so good when I om there ond the

it's getting much more intimote ond intense. Dovid's doing o good

energy is lust flowing through me ond the words ore iust flowing

iob hoving o heorl-to-heort tolk with Heidi.

through me." h's o lot more powerful to soy, "li feels so good

DAVID: I storted out thot section offirming her. I told her I don't get to
meel o lot of women who qre os creotive os she is.

when you ore there ond you ore writing ond the words ore iust
flowing through you ond you feel so connected to something lorger thon yourself, do you know whot I meon?" I wos iust describing

RON:

But you ore olso ioking

oround, moking some funny comments.

thot feeling os if she is hoving it. My hope is fiot when I use you

You're teosing her, ond thot seems to be o good woy to go with

stotemenls she'll soy to herself, "lt's omozing thot I om with this

Heidi. She seems receplive to you ond wouldn'l be reveoling so

guy who understonds thoi."

much obout herself unless she felt comfortoble with you.

RON: lwont to point out thot in fie previous conversotion Heidi


DAVID: Humor is port of the bonding process. When Heidi tells me
thot she likes to observe people, I soy, 'Are you observing me?"

is

tolking more then Dovid. Dovid is shufting up long enough to listen


I

to whot she's soying. He's lhen toking his time to conslruct o

olso soid, "Moybe if we get to know eoch other beiler o time will

response thot is either o bonding visuolizolion or o question thol

come when you will wont to shore some poetry with me." I didn't

pulls the conversolion into o more intimote spoce.

push her reol hord lo show me her poetry; I iust wonted to bring

up the lopic of going out with me in o fun, holFioking woy.

Eorlier in this book we tolked obout the power of describing


romonlic scenes ond situotions to women. We told you thot whot

It

One thing to notice is thot Ron ond I use o lot of "you" stoiements.

you describe lo o womon is whot she will feel. When you describe

ln the most evocotive visuqlizotions, lhe person tolking does his

romontic scenes o womon hos to go inside herself ond experience

best to include the listener in the sifuotion he is describing. For

those feelings.

exomple, 'You see yourself wolking down the sloirs"; 'You see lhe

feelings is io osk o womon Romontic Questions. When o womon

things oround you";'You feel this." All of these exomples use

onswers Romontic Questions ond describes o romontic situqtion to

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KATIE: Well, octuolly, I gol it when lwos troveling. I wos bockpocking

you osk o womon obout her dreom vocolion ond she describes ii

through Bonglodesh ond there wos someone selling iewelry ond

lo you, she will hove lo go into her imoginotion ond experience il.

this ring is octuolly q Celtic symbol. lt looked reolly cool so

Whether you describe romonlic scenes to o womon or you osk

bought it.

Romontic Questions thot invoke o romontic response from o

womon the result is the some: she experiences romontic feelings.

RON: Bonglodesh, whot were you doing in Bonglodesh?


DAVID: I wont to point od thot Ron effectively used the question

Let's

go bock ore reod more of the conversotion.

'lVho/s the story behind fiot?" to open up lhe conversotion with


Kotie ond then proceeded into Deepening Questions. This shows

DAVID: I would like to know more oboul you. Moybe I could reod

how'lVhot's the story behlnd thot?" con noturolly leod into

some of your writing somelime. Whot would it be like if we got

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together for o cup of coffee sometime ond lust tolked more obout

wonl you to keep on eye on how oll the conversolionol modes

writing ond got lo know eoch other o little better?

you're leorning in this book oll fit together.

H EID

Thot would be greot. l'd reolly enioy thot.

fien Romontic Conversotions. We

RON: Whqt mode you decide to go to Bonglodesh? Whot did you do

DAVID: I tellyou whot, give me your emoiloddress or phone number


ond we con set thot up.

there?

KATIE: I iust wonted to visit o ploce for owoy in o totolly different culture. I wonted to go on o chollenging iourney thot wos different

HEIDI: Sure, thot sounds greot.

from my normol life.

RON: Wow, thot is reolly brove, Kolie.

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KATIE: lt wos reolly

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ond exciting. lt wos one of the most intense

trips of my life.

RON: Hi Kotie, greot to see you.

RON: I don't get lo meet women ve4y often who hove token on life ot

KATIE: You loo, how ore you?

thot kind of level. l/s reolly cool thot you went there. How long

RON: l'm doing greot todoy. Your ring coughl my otlention. lt looks

were you in Bonglodesh?

reolly interesting, whofs the story behind it?


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soid thot you hove o Celtic ring?

your heort the most.

KATIE: lt's o Celtic symbol of on eternol knot.

RON: An eternol knot?

Let me see thot

RON: I would be interested lo know whot port of your trip touched

KATIE: The woy people were welcoming to me ond let me into their

for o second. [He reoches over

ond touches the ring] This is o cool ring. Where else do you like to

homes. lt is not something thot you see every doy. My fovorite port

of the trip wos meeting new people. I mode o lot of speciol connections.

trovel?

DAVID:

Let/s iump

in for o second. When you're tolking to o womon

it's helpful to be on the lookout for openings lo louch her hond or

her iewelry. Touching o womon in non-inlrusive woys is greot in


building up to osking for o dqte. Ron seizes the opportunity to
moke things more physicol with Kotie by touching her ring.

RON: I mentioned thot I thought Kolie wos brove for going to


Bonglodesh. This compliment wos q woy to volidote her life.

Another exomple of volidoting her is when I soid I don't get to


meet mony women who hove lived like thot. An importont ospect

of Deepening is osking questions to find out whot o womon volues. From there,

fie nexl slep

is odmiring whot she volues qnd

feeding it bock to her.

RON: Did you hove ony experiences thot kind of iust sticks in your
heort? Do you recoll experiences thqt ore postcord moments thot
you'll remember for the rest of your life? l'd be curious lo know if
you hod experiences ond moments like thot.
DAVID:

Lefls iump in.

Whot's interesting lo me in this conversotion

is

thot Ron is toking this seemingly mundone conversotion thot hos


nothing romontic in it ond progressively toking it to deeper levels

of ropport building. Ron ond Kotie hqve o connection building.


She is storting lo lrust him, ond he is listening ond feeding bock
the positive things she is soying. By listening ond feeding bock

whot he heors, Ron is showing his interest in Kotie.

RON: Kotie storted osking me questions. But opening conversotions


with women ore more obout how you moke them feel, not obout

KATIE: Do you like to trovel?

your showing off, so I tried to ovoid tolking obout myself ond

RON: Yes ldo, olthough lrorelygo plocesos unusuolos Bonglodesh.


l/s omozing when you trovel, you get to see new things ond expe-

insteod focused on feeding bock to Kotie

$e positive feelings of

troveling.

rience q new culture. When you lrovel you get to let different ports

of yourself come out. Do you know whot I meqn?


KATIE: Yes, tho/s one of the moin reosons I love to see new ploces.

Next, I osked odditionol Deepening Questions to get her tolking


more obout troveling. I osked Kotie, 'lVhen you ore troveling,

whot touches your heort the most?" Then I osked her, 'lVhot ore
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don't olwoys tolk obout upbeot subiects so you need to leorn how

you tolk to women.

to furn negotive lopics into positive ones.

KATIE: Well, it's not something I core to think obout often, but there
wos o reolly bod slorm ond there wos o mudslide thot we somehow escoped. Thot port of the trip sticks out in my mind.

RON: Wos ihere o good port to thot crisis? Like feeling thot you hove
o deeper oppreciotion for life? Whot wos the most positive thing
you wolked owoy from thot experience feeling?

DAVID:

Lel's iump

in ogoin. We've seen conversotions move into neg-

You con hondle negolive lopics by osking ony of the following questions:

'aVhot wos the best port of it?"

'lVos there o positive port in oll of it?"


"Whot did you leorn from lhol experience?"
"How hos thol experience chonged you?"

otive directions before. We told you thot il's imporlont to redirect


conversolions inlo more positive topics. When Kotie mentioned she

wos stuck in o mudslide lhe conversotion could hove become

$e some time I felt proud of myself for surviving such o scory

depressing ond unpleosont. Ron wos oble to gently move the con-

experience ond chollenging myself. I reolly like pushing myself

versolion to o different topic ond keep focused on building his

ond putling myself out $ere. l'm glod I hod such on intense expe-

ropport with Kotie.

rience in Bonglodesh.

RON: I noticed thot Kotie wos running the horrible scene of borely

RON: I con see in tolking with you thotyou reolly push yourself ond

fie edge.

escoping o mudslide in through mind. I didn't wont her to feel the

live life on

bod feelings ossocioted with thot experience, so I took the conver-

the foce of uncertointy. I reolly odmire how you live life fully.

sotion in q different direction. I wosn'l sure whol to soy to her, but


I come bock with,

'!Vos lhere o good porl to thot crisis?" I knew I

hod to move quickly ond come up with something to guide the


conversotion onto o different topic.

lt seems like you're someone who is strong in

RON: One thing I noticed in tolking to Kotie is thot she pushes herself
lo try new things ond is reolly courogeous qnd odventurous. ln
Deepening I om looking for whot she is possionote obout ond

whot she volues, so I wonted lo let her know thot I see her os o

DAVID: lf you hod let Kotie keep tolking obout the mudslide it could
hove become o depressing. She might hove soid, "Kids died in

thot mudslide..." So il's greot thot Ron interrupted her. Women

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Here's o good phrose to use when osking o womqn for her num-

ofbr whot you wont. Like when you meet someone you con con-

ber: "h/s been nice tolking to you, perhops we con get together

nect with or you feel like they open their heort to you in o certoin

sometime ond tolk obout this some more." You don't need ony-

woy. There is something reolly speciol obout being open like thot.

donl think we get enough of those moments in our lives.

thing foncy or speciol. You don't need o perfect line, you iust need
to open your mouth ond qsk her out. After you hove her phone
number or emoil oddress you con set up the coffee dote.

KATIE: Being in Bonglodesh ond hoving people be so kind to me


mode me wont to be more open to people in my everydoy life.

try to be friendly when I om out oi the grocery store doing little

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tosks ond erronds thot seem mundone.

RON: lt's been greot to meet you, but I need to run in o second.
Moybe we could get together for o cup of coffee sometime ond
tolk some more.

Le/s recop whol we've leorned in this chopter:

Conversqlions

with women somelimes foil.

Deepening

Conversqtions don't olwoys go well. There is no mogicol formulo to hove

Kolie: Sure, thot would be greot. Moybe you could tell me obout your
trovel experiences.

the conversotion goes well ond sometimes you flot on your foce.

RON: Whd is your phone number ond emoil oddress? lt would be


greot to go out sometime this week.

When bod-luck seducer Bob hos Deepening Conversotions thot go


poorly, he's shocked. "l did whot Louis & Copelond soid in thot domn

KATIE: Here, l'll write down my number ond emoil.

RON: When Kotie mentioned thot she tries to be friendly when

book ond the one womon I tolked to didnt wont to moke out with me.
she's

out shopping ond running erronds, I thought thot wos o good


segue trc osking her out. I wonted lo end the conversqtion on o

high point. I thought thot if she wosn't willing lo go out with me


ofter tolking for so long it wos unlikely thot she'd give me her

Those guys ore ierks. I wonl my money bockl" Bob foils to reolize thot
mosl conversotions with women will not leod to getting o phone number,
let olone sex. Bob's so focused on finding o mogicol solution to getting

women trc dote him thot he forgets thot tolking to women is

o numbers

gome, ond work. lnsteod of tclking to severol women until one is interested in tolking lo him, Bob would rother blome everyone else ond comploin.

number if we tolked ony longer.

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Assume ropporl.

conversotion goes poorly, move on ond tolk to onother womon. When

womon you should ossume she is enioying tolking to you ond being with

o conversotion goes poorly, iust cholk it up to experience. lf you ore per-

you. When o solesmon ossumes ropport. he ossumes thot his prospec-

sistent ond tqlk to dozens of women, you'll eventuolly hove successful

tive customer likes him, is interested in whot he's selling, hos similor vol-

o few successful Deepening

ues ond trusts him. h's cruciol to ossume the best when you're with o

Deepening Conversotions. Afiter


Conversotions you'll get

phone number ond things will keep pro-

By this we meon thqt when you're tolking to o

womon.

gressing from there. lf you ore willing to do the work ond be potient,
Bob ossumes thol every womon he tolks to will hote him ond thot every

success is inevitoble.

interoction will go poorly. When he tolks to women ond osks Deepening

lnclude yourself when describing scenes. ln Deepening you

Questions his certointy thot the interoclion will go poorly comes ocross

ore creoting romontic imoges through descriptions of romontic

in his fone of voice ond his presence. Becouse Bob is so cerloin his con-

scenes.

ln Advonced Deepening you ore describing scenes where you ond your

versotions will go poorly, he comes qcross os ongry ond meqn.

conversolionol portner ore together in the scene.


You con teoch yourself to ossume ropport by reminding yourself thot
For inslonce, insteod of describing o greot concerl, describe o sifuotion

women ore interested in tolking lo you ond find you otlroclive. You con

where you ond she ore ot o concert together hoving o wonderful time.

tell yourself thot the interoclion is going well. When you ossume women

When you describe romontic scenes with the two of you, o womon will

like you, you will not only feel more confident ond more reloxed, you

hqve to go inside ond imogine thot picture of the two of you together. By

will olso be more romontic, eosygoing ond likeoble. Assuming ropport

describing scenes to o womon you increose your chonces of getling her

is cruciol in tolking to women.

number. You'll olso improve your chonces

of hoving her see you os o

Ask open-ended questions.

romontic possibility.

We've menlioned the importonce of

osking open-ended questions before. You need to cosl the widest net

io women. The gool is to creole o spoce for

We reolize thot including yourself when describing scenes to women con

possible when tolking

be confusing. l/s o new skill thot you need lo procfice. Try writing out

women to feel comfortoble ond reloxed tolking to you. Bob is o moster

polentiol conversolions ond proctice osking questions out loud ot home.

of osking questions so thot women feel tropped. Here's on exomple of

The more proctice you hove the eosier it

will be to include yourself

in

Bob's ottempl ot Deepening:

scenes when you hove o womon in front of you.

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WOMAN: No, I hoven't. Did you?

lions you're curious obout. Hove o good time.

BOB: So you didn't see thot movie? Why not? ls it becouse you don'l

Tolking lo women should not be on ordeql. When

like movies or is it becouse you don't like John Trovoltq?

Bob tolks to

women he's constonlly preoccupied with osking the perfect queslion. He

WOMAN: Oh, I iust hoven't seen o movie in few months. l've been
working o lot. Did you see the movie?

is so cought up with his own thoughts ond concerns thot tolking to o


womon is o stressful, horrible offoir. Bob is too ofroid

BOB: Oh, so you must reolly hote your iob since you hove to work so
much. I hote iobs where they force you to work overlime ond don't

poy you.

trc

toke ony risks

ond so he folls deeper into o feor spirol. He is too ofroid to shore onything obout himself, mention onything he considers funny or osk ony
quesiions thot ore romontic. His feor creoles o situotion thot is unpleos-

ont for both himself qnd the womon.

WOMAN: Oh, I must go now. Bye.


Here ore some surefire woys to nof hove fun when you're wilh o womon:
Bob osks closed ("yes-or-no") questions thot hove on occusotory feel to
them rother thon open-ended questions lhot encouroge o womon to tolk.

Bob not only osks yes-or-no queslions, he orgues with the womon's
response rother thon encouroging her to tqlk. Don't box women into

onswering yes-or-no questions or questions thot limit their options. Ask


open-ended questions so thot lorger conversotions con develop.

Fun, fun, fun. Whot's more romonlic to o womon/ o mon who

is

hoving fun? The onswer is cleor: men who ore oble to enioy themselves

ore much more otlroctive thon guys who ore uptight ond worried.

Women's bullshit detectors ore much more ottuned lhon ore men's.
Women know when you're nol interested in tolking to them, when you're
neryous ond when you're not hoving fun. So we strongly recommend
you find fun woys lo moke conversotions with women fun. Bring up topics thot ore enioyoble for you. Mention things you find funny. Ask ques-

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Asking questions thot you don'l core onything obout


Never shoring onything obout yourself

Not toking ony romontic risks

stressed, neryous ond uptight or someone who is reloxed, ployful ond

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Trying to be perfect

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Never smiling
Solely focusing on getting into her ponts

Never crocking iokes

Worrying thot evefihing you soy will offend her


Solely focusing on hoving her not think you're lrying to get

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Don't push too hqrd. You do not need to push women inlo sexuol
or romontic tolk. The purpose of Deepening is often iust to bond.

tends to creole more feqr.

Without the foundotion of bonding there is no hope of turning things

lf you ore oble to let go, hove fun ond loke some risks with women,

you'll

sexuol. lf you skip this eorly work you'll foil miserobly loter on. The gool

Don'l be o strqngea

When tolking to women be on the lookout for

of Deepening is trc creole o bond, develop ropport ond loy the ground-

detoils she's shoring with you she wouldn't normolly shore with o

work for osking for o number. Sometimes the conversotion turns romon-

stronger. These ore detoils you wonl to ocknowledge.

tic; other times ifs much lighter. ln either cose $e gool is to move from
being o stronger to creoting enough of o connection to toke the next step.

Deepening Conversotions ore oll oboul creoting

o connection with

womon thot mokes her feel thot you see some$ing in her to which most

Some women qre weird, wocky ond sftqnge. We

people ore not privy. When you ore oble to see things in her thot most

encounter women who soy unusuol things. lf she's worth pursuing, slop

men don't see, intimocy is creoted. When you stort creoting emotionol

focusing on the unusuol ospecls of her personolity. Once you ore in o

connections, she'll wont to connect more deeply with you.

relotionship, you need lo ignore the ospects of o womon's personolity

oll

thot bother you. lfs colled coping with the horsh reolity.

Admire her.

You wont

to be the kind of guy who ocknowledges

women. Everyone feels good when they're ocknowledged. When you

The importonce of

odmire o womon for her strengths or loke notice of whot is speciol io her

ing ond visuqlizotions strive to put

ond whot is speciol oboul her, she'll feel closer to you.

word "you." lfs very useful to describe things from e "you" point of view,

"yott" stqlemenls.
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The most evocotive writ-

lislener in lhe scene by using the

ie, 'Yeo, I think i/s so greqt when you ore hoving o perfect doy, ond you

Ask obout greot momenls in her life. ln Deepening you ore

con iust breothe in ond reolly feel good obout whot you've occom-

focusing on o womon's life ond looking for speciol moments to ocknowl-

plished."

edge. You ore looking for times in her life when she felt best, moments
she's mosl proud of, her occomplishments ond her possions. Ask women

Tolking to women is oll obout getting them to feel things, visuolize things

obout greot moments in their post ond greol momenls in their current

ond imogine things. Thot's why using fie "you" perspeclive in your

life. Two greot questions to use ore 'lVhot ore you mosl possionole

speoking is so importont. Toking on o "you" perspective might toke some

oboul?" ond 'Whot ore the postcord moments thot you will remember

proclice, but il's worth it. Do you understond?

for the rest of yovr li[e?"

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Eventuolly o womon will

turn he tobles on you ond stort osking queslions oboul your life ond
possions.

We recommend you reply with romontic ond

open-ended

responses. You need to reveol detrcils oboul yourself, but you con do so in

q wqy

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Bob con't contoin his thoughts enough to creole

o bond with

women.

You need to shut up long enough for them to respond. A good rule of
thumb is they should tolk Z0 percent of the time, you should tolk 30 percenl of the time.

is not brogging or time-consuming or boring for the womon.

Tolking to women is like fishing. lf the first question you osk o womon

When o womon osks Bob whot he's possionote obout in his life he
begins tolking

doesn't elicit

iuicy response, move on lo onother question.

ln

her obout his new flot-ponel compuler screen, the greot

Deepening you ore fishing by osking queslions ond finding out whot

screen resolution it hos, ond how the competitoy's version sucks. Bob goes

she's possionote obout. Once you gei o strong response from he4 osk

off on

o IO-minute longent on o topic lhe womon

could core less obout.

more queslions ond feed bock more situotions to her. Just like with fish-

ing, you're potiently woiting for o bite. Once you gel one, you quickly
Bod move. Jusl give o short response oboul yourself ond then osk oddi-

go for it ond get her tolking obod whot she's possionote oboul.

tionol Deepening Questions ond refocus the conversotion on her.

Deepening Conversqlions ccrn leqd to fouching ond more.

Shul up qnd listen.

When you're conducting Deepening

When you con touch o womon os port of o Deepening Conversotion you

Conversolions it's cruciol thot she tolks more thon you do. When you're

ore helping escolote the seduction. Mosl men woit until the end of o dote

hoving o Deepening Conversotion, shut your pie hole while she onswers

before doing onything physicol. During Deepening Conversolions, how-

your question. Don't interrupl o womon when she's tolking. lnsteod, lis-

ever, lhere ore often openings for touch. When osking o womon obout

o response thot is either o visuolizotion

her ring, for exomple, you could touch her hond. When sitting next to o

ten ond trrke time to construct

bosed on whot she's iust told you or o question thoi evokes more infor-

womon, you could "occidentolly'' brush ogoinst her orm.

motion from her.


When you touch o womon, do so gently ond os unobtrusively os possi-

When Bob conducts Deepening Conversotions, he never shuts up. He

ble. lf o womon reocls negotively, thot is o sign to slow the seduction

inlerrupts lhe womon when she's tolking obout her fovorite vocolion ond

down. lf o womon seems open to fouching, ifls o sign to go for fie next

brogs obout his Aloskon cruise. Bob constontly interrupls women when

level of touching or kissing.

fiey're telling him key informotion. Rother thon listen, Bob enioys offerobout the besl ports of her iob, he lectured her on why she should quit

When the conversotion goes downhill. Severol times during


this chopter we mentioned how importont it is to ovoid tolking obout

her iob ond find o higher-poying profession.

depresing topics. When o womon slorls tolking obout bod experiences

ing his opinions on whot o womon is telling him. When Jennifer told him

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We've tolked obout the importonce of interrupting ond initioling, ihe Hi

'lVhot wos fie mosf positive thing you wolked owoy from thot expe-

Progrom, the Goodbye lntroduction, 'lVhot's the siory behind lhol?",

rience feeling?"

Situotionol Flirting, ond Deepening. Procticing eoch of these conversotionol tools will give you the power you need to initiote with women, lo

interrupt $em on deeper ond deeper levels, ond

to redirect

their

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thoughts-ond possibly their romonlic ottention-to you.

Hopefully, you ore slorling to get o feel for how oll of this con fit togeth-

Now you're reody to odd onother skill to the mix: osking Romontic

er. You initiote with women by soying hi, using the goodbye introduc-

Questions. Romontic Questions build on the tools you olreody hove to

lion, or though ony olher sociol meons thot gets you tolking to onother

toke your conversotions wilh women to on even deeper ond more seduc-

humon being. From there you toke some deeper risks, doing the flirting

tive level.

moves lo get yourself out of the "friends" zone, osking

'Whofs the story

behind thoi?", using situotionol flirting, ond, now, odding in Deepening

Before we cqn get into osking Romontic Questions, though, it's impor-

conversolions.

tont for you to review the power of description, becouse description

is

the key thot mokes Romontic Questions work.

Now we'll move on to the next step in tolking to women: Asking


Romqntic Questions.

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There is o fundomentol concept thot underlies everylhing romonlic thol

you soy lo o womon. lt is on ideo qbout the woy people's broins work,

ond it ir vory simple: when you describe something to somebody, she

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must go inside ond imogine it or experience it so she con underslond

lf you don't believe thot describing on experience con influence feelings,

whot you ore tolking obout.

look ot it from the other side: no one would disogree thot describing dis-

gusting things hos on effect on someone's inlernol emolionol slote. You


The clossic exomple of this phenomenon involves describing on ele-

don't wont your dinner componion to describe creepy, slimy worms

phont. lt is huge, it hos big white tusks, groy skin, o long trunk ond big

while you're eoting spoghetti becouse you'd noturolly imogine worms

floppy eors. ln order to understond this description, you hod to imogine

qnd feel revolted by the plote of spoghetti in front of you. This mirrors

whot we were describing, ot leost to some extent. Even if you wonted to

the bosic principle of seductive conversolion.

resist us ond decided thot, no motler whot, you were nol going lo imog-

ine on elephont, you'd still hove

lo imogine one to know whot you

DAVID: Just lost night I wos doing some lnternet flirting. lwos osking

shouldn't imogine. This is o bosic principle of how the mind works: if you

o womon oboul romonlic experiences she hqd hod ond out of the

describe something to someone, ihey outomoticolly imogine it.

blue she storted into this tirode obout obortion ond how bod

obortion is ond how she is totolly ogoinst it. Now one thing

This little quirk in the humon mind reolly works in your fovor when you

could hove done wos fight with her qbout it, bul olreody she wos

tolk to women becouse it doesn't only work if you describe things like

imoging oll this horrible stuff obout obortion in her heod ond feel-

elephonts. lt olso works if you describe experiences like love, romonce,

ing her feelings obout it. Fighting would only hove mode il worse.

seduction ond orousol. lf we were

to describe on experience lo you,

I could olso hove osked her not to think obout it, but she still

you'd hove to imogine hoving thot experience, ot leosl to some smoll

would hove hod to imogine whot she shouldn't be thinking obout,

extenl, simply to understond whot we were tolking obout. (The extent to

so it might hove mode those horrible pictures she wos imogining

which you hod thot experience would depend on how well we described

even more vivid.

it.) lt/s on involuntory reoction, ond eveqyone hos it.


So I let her soy whot she hod to soy ond then I come bock with

tqlk more obout doting. Le/s ilrlk more obout romonlic experi-

This is your occess into the emotionol being of o \ /omon. lf you ore tolk-

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ing to o womon ond describing romontic experiences, erotic experi-

ences. Le/s tolk obout how the heort opens up with someone who

ences or emotionol experiences, she is going to hove to go into her mind

you reolly bel connected fic." Those were the kind of experiences

ond experience those experiences iust to trock with the conversotion.


When o womon hos those feelings while she is looking ol you then you

wonfed us to be trclking obout so she would be hoving lhose romon-

ore hoving o romontic interoclion.

her think obout obortion ond connecting thot to me. And it worked;

tic experiences inside ond connect them to me, rother thon hwing

she got off her obortion tirode ond we hod o greot romontic tolk.

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You hove probobly been in on experience with o womon when it seemed

whofls most importont. lf you moke o womon feel excited, turned on ond

like everything iust went sour. You were getting olong greot, then sud-

opprecioted, she's going to be o lot more likely to go for you.

denly there wos o problem ond you couldn't seem to fix it no motter whot

you did. lf you were to look ot o lronscript of thot conversotion, you'd

ln the next few chopters you will leorn the specific flirting skills necessory

probobly find thot the conversotion took o turn into something like rope,

to turn onything thol o womon soys into o Romonlic Conversotion. We

child obuse, obortion or something else thot she found reolly unpleosont.

meon

Her mind become filled with unpleosont pictures while she wos interoct-

into o Romontic Conversotion. The first step is understonding the struc-

ing with you ond before you knew it, the romontic vibe wos gone.

ture of Romontic Questions.

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she tells you she's on occounfont, you'll be oble to turn lhot

You might even hove coused the problem. Perhops you tolked obout
things you didn't even reolize you were tolking obouf perhops you
tolked obout porn or wor or something else thot, when she imogined it,
reolly turned her off. Sometimes it con be o lot subtler thon you reolize.

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With women, you reolly don't know whot is going to hoppen; you hove
to sloy owoke, be presenl ond poy ottention to the conversotionol topics

The excuse

thot turn her on ond the things thot turn her off.
The description

We will get into the specifics of using romonlic descriptions with women,

The question

but here's the bottom line obout how we use them: through tolking, ques-

iioning ond listening, we look for things thol women ore possionote

Let's look ot eoch port.

obod ond volue. We then either get women to describe the feelings of
those possions ond volues lo us or we describe them to the women. They

THE EXCUSE. When you osk o womon q Romontic Question, you need

qre then oble to experience ond dwell on those feelings while being with

to slorl with on excuse. The excuse onswers the question the womon will

us. This creotes o very reol ond romonlic connection.

be osking herself obout your question, which is '!Vhy is he osking me


this?" lf you con onswer thot question right owoy with your excuse, il will

Success with women isn't totolly obout whot you look like, whot you do

or how much money you moke, even though those things ore obviously
foctors. Success with women is qbout how you moke women feel*thot's

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THE DESCRIPTION. This port of o Romontic Question helps guide the

selves some combinotion of their sofety questions when you first interrupt

womon to the kind of onswer you ore looking for. lt olso describes the

them or when you toke the conversotion inlo deeper, riskier territory.

kind of feelings you wont her to imogine hoving while she is onswering

Remember, these questions ore

long will it toke?" ond

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'tVhot is he going to do to me?," "How

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is he soying this to me?"

Lefs odd

o descriplion lo our

test question: "l'ye been lolking

to my

When you osk o Romontic Question, the excuse onswers the question

friends obout this ond sort of toking on informol survey. lt seems like

'Why is he soying this trc me?" lt gives her o context for whot you're osk-

sometimes you meet someone ond lhere's iust

ing, which helps o womqn relox into the interoction.

you know whot I meon? Like, 'Oh, i/s you,' even though you've never

on immediote click, do

met before. So l've been wondering, do you think people con foll in love

A Romontic Question stonding on its own con seem invosive ond scory

ot first sight?"

but when you odd on excuse ond description, olmost ony question con
The description we odded to this Romontic Question suggests the feeling

become polotoble.

you wont your conversotionol portner to feel ond olso guides her toword

try this out on one of the tockiest questions you cqn osk o womon:

the kind of onswer you ore looking for. Agoin, i/s worth noting thot even

"Do you believe in love ot first sight?" You'll probobly ogree with us thot

o tocky question con slort seeming downright interesting when you odd

Lefls

most women would think of this os o hockneyed line, which


see

il is. But let's

on excuse ond description to it.

whol hoppens when we odd on excuse to il. Which question do you

think would moke it eosier for o womon lo relox ond onswer: "Hey, do

THE QUESTION. The question is simply $e Romontic Question itself-

you believe in love ot first sight?" or "l've been tolking to my friends

in our exomple, "Do you think people con foll in love ot first sight?"

obout this ond sort of toking on informol survey. Do you think people

Once ogoin, lefs look ot the Romontic Question in its entirety. Notice

con foll in love ot first sight?"

how much more normol-sounding ond less tocky the question is when
the excuse ond description ore in ploce. Then think obout how well this

We qren't recommending such on overused line, but the second version

would work with o question thot hosn't olreody been beoten to deoth in

of this question would be eosier for o womon to onswer. Thol's becouse

every bor in weslern civilizotion:

it hos on excuse ottoched to it. The womon con soy to herself, "Oh, he's
osking me this becouse he's been tolking oboui it to his friends. Okoy."

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sion lust builds in you ond you feel it so intensely in your heort. l'd be

survey. h seems like sometimes you meel someone ond lhere's iusl on

curious to know, whot mokes your heort flutter? Whot's on exomple in

immediote click, do you know whot I meon? Like, 'Oh, ifs you,' even

your life of thot?"

though you've never mel before. So l've been wondering, do you think
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people con foll in love ot first sight?"

fiot exomple down into the

excuse, the description ond the

question itself:

Romonlic Questions push the conversotion inlo

romontic direction.

When you osk o Romontic Question, you ore toking things to o more

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intimote level. You need to be respectful of thot foct, by setting up your

be moved to the point where your heort flutters." Thol onswers the ques-

queslions in the most non-invosive woy thot you con. The woy you do

tion 'lVhy is he osking me this?" You were thinking obout it the other

thot is by hoving on excuse ond o description before you osk your

doy, tho/s why you're osking obout it.

E EXC U S E. "l wos thinking the other doy obout how omozing it is to

Romontic Question.
THE DESCRIPTION. "lt's like the possion iust builds in you ond you feel

it so intensely in your heorl." You describe whot you wont her to experi-

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ence so she hos to go inside ond experience thot description, ot leost o


little bit. This olso guides her into the kind of onswer you're looking for.

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THE ROMANTIC OUESTION: 'lVhot mqkes your heort flufier?"

ter? Whofs on exomple in your life of thot?" Now she knows why you

osked, she's felt the feeling o little bit ond she's more likely to give you
You don't iust osk thot question outright becouse it would sound owk-

the kind of emotionol, romoniic onswer you're looking for.

word ond weird. You'd dump her right into her sofety queslions: 'tVhy
is he soying this to me? Who/s he going to do to me?" You need lo set
up your question with our three-step process.

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THE ROMANTIC QUESTION: "Hove you ever met someone ond felt

omozing it is to be moved to the point where your heort flutters. Moybe

like you were meeling them ogoin for the first lime?"

you've seen o piece of ortwork or heord some music ond

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them before?" When you put it this woy it doesn't sound like o corny

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"Hove you ever met someone ond felt like you've met

pickup line, which it would if you osked it stroight out. Asking in this woy
You might soy: "l wos tolking to some friends the other night over din-

gives her the opportunity to shore obout herself ond her experiences of

ner ond we were tolking obout the feeling of when you meet someone

feeling

ond feel like you've known them before. One person wos reolly into the

you while she describes, ond feels, those feelings.

o reol conneclion when first meeting someone-ond to look ot

post-life thing, ond I wosn'f sure whot to think obout thot. l've certoinly
hod those experiences where you meel someone ond you look ot them
ond you feel like you've known them before. lt's like you're meeting them

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be curious to know, if you'd be willing to shore obout it, hove you ever

THE ROMANTIC QUESTION: 'lVhotwos it like the first time you hod

mel someone ond felt like you've met them before?"

o crush on someone?"

Le/s breok it oport:

This question osked by itself sounds ridiculous.

THE EXCUSE. "lwqs tolking to some friends the o$er night over din-

But let's odd on excuse ond description ond see how it sounds: "l wos

ner ond we were tolking obout the feeling of when you meel someone

tolking to o buddy from high school who I hodn't seen in o long time.

ond feel like you've known them before." You were tolking obout it with

We were looking bock on high school ond tolking obout first loves ond

friends the other night, so lhere's o reoson it's on your mind.

crushes ond how fun ond exciting it wos. lt wos this new, tender ond

exciting feeling of being so excited ond turned on ond reolly into some-

THE DESCRIPTION. "One person wos reolly into the post-life thing,

one, you know? I wonder if you con recoll the first time you reolized you

ond I wosn't sure whot to think obout thol. l've certoinly hod those expe-

hod o crush on someone. Whot wos thot like for you?"

riences where you meet someone ond you look ot them ond you feel like

you've known them before. l/s like you're meeling $em ogoin, rother
thon for the first lime." This description is greot becouse it runs

Let's breok it down to

fie

three ports:

o little

visuolizotion on her ond reolly points o word picture of the kind of feel-

THE EXCUSE. "lwos tolking to o buddy from high schoolwho I hodn't

ing you wont her to experience os she looks ot you. lt will olso guide her

seen in o long time. We were looking bock on high school ond tolking

in selecting the kind of onswer you're looking for.

obout first loves ond crushes ond how fun ond exciting it wos."

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THE DESCRIPTION. "l've never been there. lr looked so greot. The

being so excited ond turned on ond reolly into someone, you know?"

cleor woter, being oble lo see fie fish under the woter in o gloss-bottom

boot or going snorkeling ond hoving on incredible vocolion. lt got me


THE QUESTION. "l wonder if you con recoll the first time you reolized

thinking ond osking people obout iheir ideol vocolion."

you hod o crush on someone. Whot wos thot like for you?"

THE QUESTION. "So l'd be curious to know, if you'd be willing to


shore, who/s your ideol vocotion? lt con be one you've been on or
moybe one you'd like to go on. l'd iust be curious to know."

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going to for vocolion thot mqkes you feel reolly good ond reolly olive?"

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Obviously, you would not wonl to iust throw thot ot o womqn.

THE ROMANTIC OUESTION: 'Who/s your fovorite moment in o

kiss?"

You might soy: "l wos wqlching

the other night ond I sow on od for

troveling to Jomqico. And I thought, 'Gosh, thot sounds like o reolly greot

lime.' l've never been there. lt looked so greot. The cleor woter, being

osked o womon whot her fqvorite moment is in

kiss flot out

you'd come ocross os o reol freok-boy.

oble to see the fish under the woler in o gloss-bottom boot or going snorkeling ond hoving on incredible vocotion. lt got me thinking ond osking

Try this insteod: "lwos tolking to my friend Tonyo the other doy ond we

people obout their ideol vocotion. So l'd be curious to know, if you'd be

were tolking obout kissing. We were tolking obout the mogic of kissing

willing to shore, whot's your ideol vocqtion? lt con be one you've been

ond the mogicol moments thot occur during o kiss. There is o moment

on or moybe one you'd like to go on. l'd iust be curious to know."

when you close your eyes. There's the moment when your lips first touch.
There is o moment when your longues first entwine. lt's oll so omozing.

Let's breok it down:

l'd be curious lo know, whol's your fovorite moment in o kiss?"

THE EXCUSE. "lwos wotching TV the other night ond I sow on od for

This is obviously o more intense question thon the o$ers. You ore bring-

troveling lo Jomoico. And I thought, 'Gosh, thqt sounds like

reolly

directly to sex.

greot lime."'

ing up something very inlimote ond describing something thot con leod

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she's olreody thinking of you os

possible romontic portner, ond it's

Mosl guys ore nol porticulorly into romontic movies, but i/s good to osk
o womon obout them becouse her onswer to

fiis question con tell you o

oppropriote to heot things up o bit. This is o greot woy lo do thot. At the

lot obout how she likes to be seduced. lt'll provide informotion you will

right moment, this question could reolly work for you. You might odd in

find useful on doles with her. lt'll olso get her describing ond feeling

o whisper or get closer to her eor. lt might turn inlo o very sensuol

some of her fqvorite romonlic feelings, while looking ot you.

momenl. This might even turn into o kiss.


So here's whot you might osk: "l om usuolly into oction films myself, but
Here ore the three ports:

lotely l've been looking ol some more romontic films. Somelimes I see
movies thot hove such

o romontic feel to them.

They hove such sweet,

THE EXCUSE. "lwos tolking to my friend Tonyo the other doy ond we

strong romontic moments in

were tolking obout kissing. We were tolking obout the mogic of kissing

folling deeply in love, like

qnd the mogicol moments thot occur during o kiss."

moment. l'd be curious lo know, if you'd be willing to shore, if you were

them-o couple

is being swept off their feet,

o Cory GronFAudrey

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going to recommend o romonlic film to me, whot would il be?"


THE DESCRIPTION. 'There is o moment when you close your eyes.
There's lhe moment when your lips first touch. There is

o momenl when

The three ports:

your tongues first entwine. lt's oll so omozing."


THE EXCUSE. "l om usuolly into oction films myself, but lotely l've been
TH

E OU ESTION. "l'd be curious to know, whot's your fovorite moment

looking ot some more romontic films."

in o kiss?"
THE DESCRIPTION. "somelimes lsee movies thot hove such o romon-

tic feel to them. They hove such sweet, strong romonlic moments in

them-o couple

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o Cory Gront-Audrey Hepburn sort of moment."

THE ROMANTIC QUESTION: 'lVhot ore some of your fovorite


romontic movies?"

THE QUESTION. "l'd be curious to know, if you'd bewilling to shore,


if you were going to recommend o romontic film to me, whot would it be?"

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woy: "l've been osking my friends this question lotely ond it

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obod using

Romontic Questions.

reolly seems lo generole some pretty interesting conversolions.


Everybody hos

first-kiss story-thot feeling

of doing something

so

QUESTION: How intimote should the questions be?

romontic for the first time con reolly be so incredibly moving. So l'm
wondering, if you would core io shore, whot v/os your first kiss like?"

ANSWER: As you've no doubt noticed, the questions vory in intensity


from relotively low-risk questions like 'lVho/s o speciol ploce you
enjoy going to for vocotion?" lo relotively high-risk questions like

The three ports of this question:

'lVho/s your fovorite moment in o

kiss?" As you leorn to impro-

THE EXCUSE. "l've been osking my friends this question lotely ond it

vise these questions, you'll come up with ones thot ore even milder

reolly seems lo generole some pretty inleresting conversotions."

ond others thot ore even riskier. You decide how intimote o ques-

lion to osk by ossessing two things: how things ore going with the
THE DESCRIPTION. "Everybody hos o first-kiss story-thot feeling of

womon ond the level of risk you wont to toke.

doing something so romontic for the firsl time con reolly be so incredi-

Mosl of the time, you'll wont to stort with the lower-risk questions,

bly moving."

ond, os thot goes well, move up to the higher-risk questions. lf


you're feeling especiolly bollsy, you con move up to the higher-risk

THE OUESTION. "So l'm wondering, if you would core lo shore, whot

wos your first kiss like?"

queslions foster. lf you osk them with o sense of certointy thot

evefihing

ls this whole Romontic Question sequence storting to moke sense to you?

There's some subtlety to it, but it's not rockel science or broin surgery (or,

is okoy then things

will probobly go fine.

You con tell thot you qre risking too much if you find yourself leov-

ing out the excuse ond description ports of the Romoniic Question.

os one of our students colled it, "rocket surgery''f . You ore not iust hiF

When guys get tense, lhey tend to leove out the excuse ond the

ting on someone. You ore developing o connection with her. You ore cre-

description ond iust go to the question. lf thot hoppens lo you, you

oting o connection bosed on things she cores obout, things she hos pos-

need to slow down, loke some deep breoths ond osk o lower-risk

querlion.

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more intense ones. lf she bolks on the less risky ones ond seems
uncomfortoble, you know not lo go on to the more intense ques-

A: This hoppens oll the time, ond you should be reody for it. For
instonce, if you osk o womon,

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is your ideo of

tions until you get better resuhs with those less risky questions. ln

o reolly

this woy you con find out her level of interest strep by step without

romqnlic dote?" ond she onswers you ond osks you the some

risking moking things reolly weird for you both by osking some-

question bock, you need to onswer her. Simply describe o dote

thing too inlense out of the blue.

thot sounds reolly romontic lo you. There's no big trick to it; iust
tolk obout o situotion thot sounds romontic to you. lf you con use
your words to point o picture for the two of you trcgether, fiot's

good. lf your description is similor to her ideo of o romonilc dole,

Q:

How often should I osk Romontic Questions during on

with o womqn?
You'll see exomples of how we use Romonlic Questions in the

even better.
Obviously, you will wont lo speok from the romoncer porl of yourself when you onswer this question. lf she describes her ideol

this: pepper them in. Romontic Queslions ore not the sole focus of

your discussion. You tolk oboul the weother, lhe news, you do

romonlic dote os on evening by the seoshore, iust her ond her

some of the Flirting Moves, osk her obout her iob ond throw in

lover eoting lobster ond drinking fine wine, you won't wont to
respond by telling her thot your ideol romontic dote is on evening

drinking beer ot the demolition derby followed by o night of hot


sex with your fovorile Penthouse centerfold. Get into the spirit of

diologs lhot ore coming up in this book, but the short onswer is

Romontic Queslions. lf you pepper them in, it will feel noturol.

Asking loo mony Romontic Quesfions is not the problem most of

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thing ond describe something romontic thot she would olso enioy.

our students hove. The first problem most of our students hove

is

not osking Romqntic Questions ot oll. The second problem most of

our students hove is dropping out the excuse ond the description
Q: Won't showing my romonlic interesl be emborrossing for us both?
It's true thot if you use Romonlic Questions properly she'll know

you're interested in her romonticolly. However, becouse yov're

lost ond certoinly the leost problem our students hove is osking too

mony Romontic Questions.

opprooching the seduction in such o romontic, nonslimy woy, she

Hoving soid thot, it will probobly feel owkword the first few fimes

is very likely to think thot your desire for her is o veqy good thing

you osk one of these questions. As you proctice, you moy leove

rofier thon o creepy thing she needs to get owoy from.

some intreroctions with women feeling os if you osked too mony

Asking Romontic Queslions is olso greot becouse you con slort

with the less risky,

ond iust osking $e question port of the Romontic Question. The

less obvious ones ond work your

woy up to the

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once or twice is involuoble to your leorning how to use Romonlic
Queslions. And don't

Q: Should I leorn these questions by heo* or improvise them on the


spot?

worry*if won't hurt her if you osk "too

mony'' Romontic Questions. She's mode of tougher stuff thon thot.

At firsl you will wonl to leorn one or two Romontic Questions by


heort ond try them oui with women to see whot kind of converso-

Q: How should I get storted with Romontic Questions?


Firsl, choose one or two Romontic Questions ond leqrn them by

heort. Remember, thol meons you hove to leorn oll three ports of
lhe queslion: the excuse, the description ond the question itself.

tions ond romontic feelings thoi they spork.


As you get more experience, you'll find thot i/s noturol to improvise
the queslions or ports of the questions. At first you will probobly find

it is most nofurol ic improvise new excuses ond descriptions lo go


with the Romontic Queslions you intend to osk. ln time, you'll be

Second, proclice speoking the entire Romontic Question out loud.

oble

When you're olone ol home or in your cor or getting reody to go

womon, you'll be oble

to work in the morning, speok your Romontic Questions. This gets

life. Your curiosity obout her will guide you in spontrrneously creot-

your body used to soying the questions-which is of course whot

ing new Romqntic Questions fiot ore well-suited for her.

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improvise the questions lco. As you relox more with o


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get more curious obout her ond obout her

you ore going to end up doing. When you ore in front of o


womon, it does you no good to be greot ot soying the Romontic
Question silently in your own mind. You need to be qble to speok
lhe question, ond thot is why you proctice it out loud.
Third, try it out with o womon. Perhops you meet o womon ot o
coffee shop ond you've soid hi, done some of the Flirting Moves

like smiling, holding eye contoct ond winking ot her, oll perhops in
the contexl of doing some Situolionol Flirting. Perhops you've
osked her 'lVhot's the story behind thot?" obout her neckloce ond
thot's generoted some shoring conversotions. Things ore going

well. Then osk your Romontic Question. Moke your excuse, give

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As we'll see in the next chopter, osking Romontic Questions leods notu-

rolly lo osking her for her phone number ond emoil oddress. Asking
Romontic Questions noturolly segues into both of you wonting to hove o
dote. Asking Romqnlic Questions noturolly segues into hoving o womon

think of you in romontic lerms. On your dotes, you con osk Romontic
Questions to deepen into the feelings of romonce. Romontic Questions

often leod to greot opportunities for the first kiss.

your description ond osk owoy. Voild!


You con osk Romonlic Questions before

fie dote, on

the dote ond when-

over you con get them in. You con osk Romontic Questions online, in o

firrt mccting-on;nrhcre, Romontic Questions ore on imporlont port of

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not qbout bomboozling, hypnotizing, tricking, or scomming on women.


Romontic Queslions ore o woy for you

lo outhenticolly leorn obout o

womon, to get inlo her world ond to moke o reol connection. When you
osk

o Romontic Question, you give o womon o gift ond in the

process

find out whot kind of connection con exisl between the two of you.

Le/s look ot some reol exomples of Romontic Conversotions with women.

For eoch one of these exomples we'll give you the diolog ond breok in

occosionolly with some ploy by ploy so you con know whot wos going

on in our minds os we were conducting these conversotions.

As you reod these diologs, remember: you ore only getting the text of
the conversotions. You oren't getling the unspoken sociql cues thot go
olong with lhem, so let's bring you up to speed: during oll of these conversotions we ore smiling ond our voices ore friendly. Sometimes in
these diologs we moy soy things thot would seem confrontotionol if they

were soid in on ongry or horsh monner. But they're fine here becouse
our monner is light ond ployful. For instonce, ot one point Ron soys lc o
womon, "So you con relote lo lhe women who wos morried, yet she wos
sleeping with somebody else?" As you'll see in the diolog below, the
womon Ron wos tolking to didnt toke whot he sqid the wrong woy. Thot

wos becouse he wos smiling, they were hoving o good time together
ond it wqs cleqr to her thot he wos joking with her, not insulting

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Let's look

ol some more of the conversotion.

we were wondering. Somelimes it seems like o dote is reolly going


Do you hove ony questions for me?

greol, there's greot flow ond things seem to reolly be cooking ond
you feel incredibly speciol. So I wqs wondering: whot is it like

TERRI: Yes, why ore you here?

when you feelvery speciol on o dote?


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Why om I here on eorth?

focus, when I om included in the conversolion.

wos iust on o dote lost week ond it wos wonderful becouse the

TERRI: I meon ot this ploce ot this time.

gentlemon leoned forwqrd on the loble when he wos tolking to me


To be with you.

ond I knew there wos inlerest. lt wos very cleor.

RON: Okoy, cool. So you ore the kind of women who likes it when o

Why else would I be here?

TERRI: Bul we iust metl

RON: Well, I believe thot things hoppen for o reqson. Don't you think

guy tokes chorge of the conversotion yet includes you?

thol's true?
TERRI: Oh yes, obsolutely.

RON: So you wont him to soy things like'You look beoutiful" or "You
know I con'l woil Io," you know, or "l would love to kiss you"?

RON: So I think this wos o good thing thotwe ore meeling ond tolking, ond I think moybe it wos meont to be. So from where I om siF

Thot sort of thing?


TERRI: Yes, the otlention ond the openness.

lwonl men who don't

ting, moybe we could tolk ogoin. I would love to coll you ond go
iust

queslion me but who ore willing to shore obout themselves too.

Lefs breok in here ond toke o look ol our story so [or. Ron is reolly doing

well wiih Terri. He got the question out ond she is reolly giving him some
informotion. As you reod this you should be osking yourself: whot is
Terri reveoling obout herself thot might help in the seduclion? Ron hos
leorned thot she is reolly turned on by

o guy leoning forword on the

toble, so he puts thot doto point into his mind ond he'll use thot loter.
He'll leon forword ond show interest os soon os he con.

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for this lo be o one-time thing.
TERRI: All right, do you wonl my number?

RON:

Yes, would

you like to write it on my hond or write il on my

stomoch?

TERRI: Well, I think you con memorize if you ore reolly poying otten-

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ten these flirting diologs to moke them letter-perfect becouse thofs not

guys who will shore obout themselves, so he osks her "Do you hove ony

how life is, ond you shouldn't get the ideo

questions for me?" to show her thot he is open to shoring obout himself.

You'll see thot ifs not necessory for Romontic Conversotions to be per-

fiqt it ever goes perfectly.

fect for flirting ond seduclion lo work. As you proctice you'll hove more

'lVhol ore you doing here?" Very


often, when o womon does something like this, i/s qn invitqtion to be
She come bock with o silly question,

fun ond you will be o lot more seductive.

silly, on invitotion to ploy together in some woy. Ron picked up on thot

ond wos oble to ploy with whot she soid. He mode o ioke ond it went
over well. He wos willing to iust open up his mouth ond soy whqtever

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ln this exomple, Ron is going to tolk to Terri ogoin. ln this conversotion,

women ore looking to you lo see how well the inleroclion is going. lf you

he's going to osk the Romonlic Question

seem confident obout it, if you seem

ploful ond if you don't seem wor-

ried, then most of the time she is going to be okoy too.

'tVhot kind of odventure would

be fun?" Notice how this question opens her up. lt is not necessorily
something thot is going to moke her melt with romontic feelings, like o
question obout her mosi romontic dote might, but it is olso low-risk ond

RON: ln lhe end, it seemed reolly noturol to osk for the phone number.
meon, il wos

effective. Here it is:

true-we were hwing o good time ond I did wont to

get trc know her better so I osked her if she would like to go out. lt

It sounds like you olso volue fun.

wosn't forced. lt felt noturol.


TERRI: Yes.

So often our students worry loo much during flirting interoctions. They

RON: l've been thinking obout the ploces thot I like to go for odven-

seem lo think, '1vell, I wqnt to do it perfectly, so every word needs to

tures. You

line up with every other word ond it hos to be exoctly right."

reolly speciol, fun, exciting ond owoy from your normol doily life.

know-the kind of ploces where you con go ond it's

So if I wos toking you oul whot kind of on odventure would be

Thot simply isn't lrue. As you reod fiese flirting inlerocfions, we hope

reolly fun for you? Would it be o doy trip together?

you're storting to understond thot flirting is nol o motler of "doing it perfectly." ll's o motter of showing up, risking, being curious, committing
yourself to being o source of certointy thot it's going to be okoy ond hov-

ing some fun with it. You'll see ogoin ond ogoin thot we hoven'l rewrit-

TERRI: Yes, o doy trip outside or o drive somewhere in the country or

o hike in some woods, somewhere there is o nice view, you know?


And we could sit on the hillside in the sun ond listen to the wind
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RON: Wow thot sounds greot. Hove you done ony hiking in the

odmires her odventuresome spirit. Tho/s o greot move-we ore olwoys

mountoins or hos it been more oround here?

looking for something we con odmire obout the women we ore flirting

with, ond Ron did o greot iob odmiring

TERRI: l've hiked in Howoii ond Alqsko but most of my hiking hos
been in Wisconsin. There ore no mounloins here.

Terqy.

RON: The other thing thot I keep osking myself is'lVhot trcpic hos the

RON: So troveling is o greol possion of yours, is it? Like seeing new

iuice?" lt doesn't motter if I om not interested in Alosko or if I om not

ploces ond going to new exciting outdoor ploces, like in Alosko?

interested in troveling; i/s whot lights her up, il's whot gets her going

on something she is possionob oboul. Therefore i/s importont

TERRI: Yes, I spenl three weeks in Alosko.

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me. And if it reolly does light her up, it will ultimotely get me inter-

RON: Wow whotwos thqt like?

ested, even if l'm not interested

TERRI: lt wos greot, iust driving oround comping in the different ports

of the stote. I took q troin from Anchoroge to Foirbonks ond thot


wos o wonderful experience, iusl seeing the middle of the wilder-

the stort.

Let's look ot the rest of this conversotion. Notice how Ron hos fun with

Terri ond iokes oround with her.

ness from the window of o troin.

TERRI: Howoiiwos onoiher fovorite spot of mine. Hiking olong the

RON: I don't get to meet o lot of women who ore such serious go-geF
lers or hqve thot much guls, so I reolly odmire thot obout you, thot

you ore oble to go on these fun odventures, you know?

coost, you come ocross o sign thot soys, 'Tidol wove level, stoy

obove this sign." And you hope thot lhere's no tidol wove coming.

RON: Thot sounds pretty odventuresome. Are you telling me thot

TERRI: lt is fun, I do like thot.

behind thot pretty foce of yours is this hellcot, doredevil womon?

Le/s iump in here ogoin ond tolk obout how Ron is doing, flirting with
Terri. Ron is reolly curious, ond his curiosity reolly helps guide him in the

conversolion ond helps the conversotion unfold eosily. For instonce,

TERRI: [Loughs]Well, I om nol o doredevil. I do worry obout life ond


limb, but I enioy odvenlures. But not bungee iumping.

RON:

But you

ore somebody who pushes the envelope. Admit

it-you

when Terri tolks obout her trip to Alosko, Ron gets curious ond osks,

con odmit it to me right now. [She loughs] I meon, it is the tru$,

'lVhot wos thot like?" Thqt gives her more opportunity to shore obout

you ore loughing but it is true, you ore the one who goes to the

something she cores obout. Ron then compliments her by telling her thot

tidol wove. You like to come to the edge where it is iust olmost

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URSULA: Someone who enloys it.

RON: Well, thonk you for being honesl-we finolly get on honest
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I enjoy it, Ron Louis enioys it.

URSULA: Someone who fully enioys it with me ond who is reolly with

Ron's interoctions with Terri ore greot exomples

plolul with o

of being willing to be

to hove fun while conducting Romontic

me. Becouse some people hove sex ond they ore not reolly with

you, but there is this other thing where you're reolly tuned into
eoch other ond you ore tololly communicoling with your entire

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body, including your eyes, ond speoking ond everything, ond you

ore using evelf one of your physicol

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is iust like nirvono to me, I iust think it is nirvono. Hove

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RON:

tor you?"
URSULA: I hove too. I meon, thot is the one time I reolly feel reolly

RON: I wos ot o dinner porty o couple doys ogo ond there were o lot
of people ond we storted tolking obout moments when people felt
corefree

wifi

someone of the opposite sex, ond this womon wos

tolking obout whot it is like when she is on o dote ond how she
feels free lo iust be herself, to moybe kiss o guy out of the blue or

to soy whotever it is she wonls lo soy. l'd be curious to know, if


you core lo shore-whot's o totolly corefree experience for you?
URSULA: Moking love.

This is o good exomple of being

plolulwith

o womon, being sexy ond

hoving fun. You con tell Ron is noi going to end up iust o friend with this
womon.

RON: lwqs shocked with the onswer she gove me to the question-l
hod no ideo thot she wos going to respond with something so sex-

uol. I remember soying to myself, "l con't believe she is soying


this." So I wos shocked obout thot. And thot odded to the fun of it.

RON: Wow, greot! Thot's whot I like to heor!


URSULA: Well reolly, it is iust o very free experience with somebody,

Of course, you're going to get o wide voriety of responses from women.


Some women will be this responsive, some will be totolly unresponsive.

with someone who enjoys it.

Thil il thc grcot thing obout hoving o high level of "throughpuf'with

RON: Someone like me?

corefree-when I om with o mon I love.

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CAROL: Not reolly.


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it?

in the seduction o lot eosier. When you find the ones thot ore thqt responsive, you go for them ond you let go of the ones who ore resistnnt.

CAROL: [Loughs] I iust love fiot, when you ore reolly communicoting
with somebody ond you ore getting into the conversolion ond it
just goes deeper ond deeper ond you ore reolly tolking heort to

heort ond you feel completely with the other person, inside the

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ln this exomple notice how Dovid geis curious obout whot the womon is

soying, how he gets

ploful ond how he osks questions

to toke the inter-

two of you ore suddenly there by yourself even though there is this

big bunch of noise going on oround you. h's like oll of o sudden
il's very quiel.

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DAVID: Very cool.


DAVID: l've been sod of conducting on informol survey obout this ond

i/s led to some pretty inleresting conversotions. For whotever reoson, lhere ore limes when you feel reolly connected to someone

CAROL: Yes, ond thot is iust on ideol kind of thing to hove in o relotionship.

else-it moy not be sexuol, it could be onyrvhere, but you iust for
whqlever reoson feel reolly connecled ond reolly possionote. So

This went reolly greot. This womon is very responsive. Corol described

l'd like to osk you: whol ore some moments in your life where you

the kind of moment where she wos oble to feel possionotely connected,

feel intensely possionote ond reolly connected to somebody else?

ond it wos fun ond it creoted o greol, romonlic feeling between the two
of them. She olso gove Dovid some greot informolion: she kept empho-

CAROL: I iust love it when you ore hoving o reolly deep conversotion
with somebody ond everything else tunes out. I meon, it con hoppen ot o porty, for instonce. There con be oll kinds of people

oround you, ond noise, or ii could be iust the two of you qlone.
The importont thing is the two of you ore hoving this conversolion

ond suddently everything else tunes out.

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when he describes fiot experience to her. He con tell her how importont

it is for him to feel like he is with her ond more importontly con prove
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hove been hoving o Romonlic Conversotion for o while ond she is pretty
lit up. She is veqy responsive ond obviously likes him. There is definitely o
sexuol vibe; he hos done oll of the things lo tqke himself out of the friend

Sue soys thot IAe English Polient is her ideo of


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o reolly romontic film.

us, IAe English Pofi'enfwos most-

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she find romontic? And how

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her thot is both romontic ond seductive?

cotegory.

SUE: There were o couple of reolly romontic relotionships in the

RON: I wotch o lot of movies. I om kind of o movie buff.

movie, ond one wos between the morried women ond Rolph.

RON: So you con relole lo the women who wos morried, yet she wos

SUE: Me too.

sleeping with somebody else?

RON: l'm curious oboulwhotwomen feel ore romonlic movies,


romonlic choroclers or situotions they feel ore romontic, becouse

ollwomen seem lo hove o different definition of romonce.

SUE: Yes. Forgetting the morrioge port of it, they hqd on overwhelming physicol possion for eoch olher, ond thot wos iust very, veqy
exciting in the movie. And then fhere wos this other relotionship.

SUE: Reolly?

They iust hod to be together, tho/s oll.

RON: Some women like it when o guy is o greot doncer, some like it

RON: And I thought $ot wos very romontic thot they go through oll

when o guy is o greot fotheri you never know whqt q womon will

this stuff to try to be together. And then there wos thol romonce

find romontic in o movie. So I would be curious to know, whot ore

between the nurse ond this lndion soldier.

some of your fovorite romonlic movies?

SUE: Did you think thot wos romontic? Oh, like there wos this one
SUE: One thot comes to mind is lhe Eng/ish Potient.

scene, it wos so

greot-he puts condles out oll the woy from

the

house she wos living in oll the woy trc the born where he is stoy-

RON: Oh yes.

ing. lt wos iust reolly greot. She comes out ond it wos o poth for
SUE: Thot wos very romontic.

her to follow right to him. And I think thot wos the first night they

moda love, they hod condles oll over ond it wos reolly romontic.

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lhese movies, how con I bring those imoges together with imoges

om iust using these tips for myself so when we get together loter

of her ond me together?" So I checked it out-l described us

will know to light condles oll over the bedroom ond to hove o troil

logether in o bedroom together with o hoil of condles-ond she

of condles for you.

liked itl

SUE: Yeoh, ond dress yourself up, you know? Weor something reolly

Notice how Ron risked reiection, but in o context in which o reiection

sexy, something speciol. Put the oftershove on.

would most likely not hove been personol or horsh. lf the womon wos-

RON: Hove the wine reody for you.

n'i inlerested in him romonticolly, she could very eosily hove simply
given o tepid onswer to Ron's remorks obout being in the bedroom with

SUE: Yes, exoctly.

her. She could hove soid, 'lVell, thot wouldn't work with me"

RON: lfs going to be o good night, i/s going to be o good night.

or "l'd

hove lo know someone o long time before thot would ever hoppen" ond
it wouldn't hove even been o blonket reiection of him. lt iust would hove

SUE: Chocolotes, chocolobs.

been onother piece of informotion obout her; onother port of lhe conver-

RON: So you love chocolotes?

sotion. lnsteod, she went right olong with it, tolking obout chocolote ond
ophrodisiocs. lt reolly pushed everything to the next level. Ron con be

SUE: Yes, chocolote is supposed to be on ophrodisioc, you know.

foirly ossured ot this point thot she will respond positively when he goes

RON: Yes, it is supposed to be, we con find out.

for the first kiss ond more.

SUE: Thot must be why I like it.

As you con see, things ore reolly cooking between the iwo of fiem

so

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ore strongly sexuol references, but becouse of the connection they hove

Ron is going trc strrt by osking Terri

o Romontic Question obout her mosl

built through the Flirting Moves ond Romontic Questions she wos

possionote crushes. When thot does not go exoctly where he expects it

obsolutely fine with them.

go, nolice how he moves intrc the first-kiss questions. The point is, you con

trc

tie Romontic Questions together. There is no low soying you con only do

RON: Yes, lwos thinking, "How om I going to moke this reol? How
con I toke everything she soid obout whot she finds romontic in

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TERRI: Oh, let's see, ihere wos o Tom, thot's for sure. There were o loi

check it out.

of Bobs, too.

RON: I wos thinking the other doy. I wos remembering when I wos
younger, in high school, ond I wos thinking obout some of the
women I hod crushes on ond how nerve-wrocking il wos, feeling
exciting ond vulnerqble. Whot ore some momenls lhot you con
remember in your life, like when you hod o crush on somebody

bock then ond whot hoppened?

RON: lwos thinking obout this too: the moments you ore kissing ond
you ore possionotely lost ond you ore soying to yourself 'This is

greol" ond it is so fulfilling to be with them ond you ore with them
ond your eyes ore closed ond you ore iust lost, iust getting into the
experience of it. Whot ore times for you, if you ore willing to
shore how you feel, wos it recently when you hove hod thot feel-

ing of enioying like your fovorite port of the kiss?

TERRI: Oh, wow.

RON: Like the first guy you hod o crush on, whot wos it like?

TERRI: Whot is my fovorite port of o kiss? Well, my fovorite port of o


kiss is someone thot knows how to kiss, thot helps.

TERRI: ln kindergorten?

RON: lwos thinking obout in high school, but kindergorten is fine.


Kindergorten, you storted eorly!

RON: You ore blushing o little bit!


TE RRI:

TERRI: I hod two bofriends in kindergorten, bul they hod the some
nome so it wosn't reol confusing. High school, I hod crushes on

boys, but usuolly nothing come of it.

And-

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RON: The chemislry is there.


TERRI: So yes, someone who knows how to kiss. I love to kiss.

RON: Tell me some of the moments, if you ore willing to.

RON: Come on, lefs get some nqmes.

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ore kissing ond your eyes ore closed. Would this be o moment in

TERRI: So there would be Tom. Yes, I hqd o crush on him.

the kiss thot wos greot? Would it be ot the beginning, the middle
or...?

RON: Whot become of

it?

TERRI: Something did hoppen there. We went steody for six months

when I wos

l3 yeors old.

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looking ot me ond you iust felt like your heort pitter potter, ond
rhor kind of thing.

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out reolly quickly if the kiss is greot.

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DAVID: So I wos wotching this trovel show the other night ond I wos

get to the kind of intensity thot he wos looking for. He wos looking for o

wondering obout vocotions ond obout how I hoven't been on o

response like 'Wow, with my first crush in high school, Bob, I couldn't stop

vocotion in o while. I wos wondering if you hove o fovorite voco-

thinking obout him ond we couldn'l keep our honds off eoch other."

tion spot or vocotion dreom? You know, perhops o ploce you hove

lnsteod, he kept getting somewhol vogue ond innocent childhood crushes.

been thot blew you crwoy or o ploce where you reolly sort of iust
let go. Or moybe o ploce where you would reolly like to go. I wos

This is fine, ond it's exoctly the sort of thing thot will hoppen with women

on o regulor bosis. The \ /omon you ore flirting with probobly hos not
reod this book, so she moy nol know the responses she's "supposed" lo

give. Put onolher woy, fiese techniques work in brood srokes-$e


womon you ore with moy well be unresponsive to certoin questions or
moy wonder off topic or whotever. ln this cose, Ron decided to shift to
onother question, obout the best moment of o kiss, becouse there wos-

n'i much iuice wilh the first-crush

question.

And it worked-olmost

immediotely things storted going deeper ond he wos oble to moke o

flirting remork obout how she could show him the best moment of o

kiss

loler on. Hod she been o little more responsive he could hove even gone

iust kind of curious obout your thoughts obout your ideql vocotion.
HEATHER: I reolly like to trovel. lwent to lrelond obout o yeor ogo,

ond thot wos pretty much the ideol vocotion. I went with o couple

of friends ond il wos o reolly greot trip. We didn't plon things

out-insteod of hoving this huge itinerory we just did whot we


wonted when we wonted to. Thott whot I like to do when I om
troveling. I don't like to hove lo be somewhere ot o certoin lime,
thol's how things ore in my life ot home. So it is reolly nice to be

oble to lust stoy somewhere if you like il or leove if you don't.

DAVID: I bet you get to hove experiences thot woy thot you would not
otherwise hove. You get lo see things thot normol tourists would

for giving her the first kiss ot thot point.

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HEATHER: Yes. lthink my ideolvocolion is obout hoving some time to


rest qnd meeting new people ond getting o feel for the culture wher-

ever I om. lfls obout seeing the countryside, hiking, wolking.

leods into o lot of different iopics ond into o lot of different opportuni-

o second. Dovid is doing some cool stuff with this womon

ties to flirt. Also notice how eosily the question drows her into tolking

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obout things she cores obout ond oboui memories thot ore pleosont lo

ond it's working. First, he found out where her ideol vocoiion wos. Once

All these good feelings ore getling connecled lo Dovid, leoving her

he hod thot he storted osking her obout the best moment on thot voco-

her.

tion, the one momenl when she felt most speciol ond omozed qnd when

liking him more ond woniing to be with him.

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HEATHER: I think itwos when we were hiking oround in o notionol

ond osk follow-up questions. You con see how thot is helping the whole

forest. lt wos reolly beoutiful. lt wos hord to believe I wos reolly

conversotion unfold in on interesting monner.

there. I kept telling myself thot I wos in lrelond. lt wos reolly mogicol ond beoutiful. There were woterfolls ond rolling hills ond o

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Romontic Question in thol it does not oulomoticolly let her know you ore

romonticolly inlerested in her in the woy thot o question like 'tVhot

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your ideo of o perfect romontic dole?" would. Thot's okoy, becouse this
Romontic Question does nol exist in o void. Along

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loke ond it wos reolly beoutiful.

And onother time wos when we were neor o little town ond we
were driving olong the coostline on this norrow little

di* rood, it is

iusl o reolly bizorre driving experience. We reoched o ploce

where the whole rood wos token up by o lorge herd of cottle.

Queslion, Dwid is doing the Flirting Moves. Also, he will osk her other
Romontic Questions ihot build in intensity ond riskiness qs his interoctions with her unfold.

DAVID: Wow.
HEATHER: I guess fiey regulorly do thot, move lhem from one port of
the field to onother.

Dovid is olso getting lots of informotion obout her. He's leorning how she
likes to

relox she doesn't like regimented reloxotion; she likes to be oble

to hong oul ond be spontoneous. This informotion will be helpful to him


when he storts designing their Seduction Dote: he'll be sure lo set up o

dote where she hos oplions ond where they con "follow lheir noses"
rqther thon one thot is more tightly regimented or slructured. (You con

reod more obout seduction dotes in our book How lo Succeed wilh

DAVID: So they were iusl honging out in the rood?


HEATHER: I guess thot wos the only woy. There wos this little boy with

o stick trying to get them in line ond trying to get them lo turn the
corner lo go on this other rood ond it wos iust veqy memoroble.
Thot would never hoppen oround here, ond it wos iust

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DAVID:

Yes, wow. Thot sounds greot, like one of those simple, perfect

momenis you'll remember forever ond olwoys feel good obout.

Le/s get bock to their conversotion.

often think obout those moments when you feel like you reolly

DAVID: Wos there one ploce thot you wenl to where you thought
something like

'Vow

this is so speciol, this is so omozing"? Or

wos there one experience you hod, moybe sitting on the beoch,
where you felt like

'Vow, I om herel This is my life, this is omoz-

ing." Moybe it wos someone you met, I don'l know.

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hove lived life. You know, those moments thot loter in your life you
look bock on ond you qre reolly hoppy thot you took the opportunity thot come your woy. lt sounds like you ore pretty hoppy you
ftcok thot opportunity to go on thot trip ond to find out whot there

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you fontosize oboul going to thot reolly turn you on to think obout?

Let's breok

in ogoin. Dovid found out obout her post fovorite vocolion,

which led to her shoring o simple, wonderful momenl thot she will
olwoys remember. Now Dovid's curiosity hqs token him in the direction

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Romontic Questions. You'll notice thot ot the beginning he gives the
excuse ond the queslion, but not the description. The reoson for thot is

of the future.

thot he is in the flow with her ond the conversotion, so there is some flexHEATHER: I hove olwoys wonted to go to Novo Scotio. I reolly don't

know o lot obout it but l'm interested in the music l've heord from

thol region, ond I understond thot o lot of people who live there
hove Scottish oncestors.

ibility. Until you get good ot it, you reolly should do oll three ports of the
Romonlic Question.

Also, notice thot Ron uses the queslion "Do you believe in love ot first
sight?" Wqtch corefully how he does thot, becouse, os you probobly
know, if you go up to o womqn in o bor ond soy, "Hey boby, do you

DAVID: Oh, wow.


HEATHER: And I hove heord thot the counlryside is reolly beoutiful

believe in love ot first sight?" you will probobly get nothing more from
her thon o drink thrown in your foce. But if you structure it properly, the

ond thot the music is greol. Like I soid before, one of the best

woy he does it here, you con reolly gel o conversolion going. He does-

things obout troveling is meeting people who ore there.

n't leod with thot question but builds up to it, so it seems quite noturol.

DAVID: I con tellyou ore someone who reolly cores obout connecting
with people, moking reql connections. I find thot reolly ottroclive,
so thot is reolly o cool thing.

RON: You know, I wos tolking to o friend of mine ond we were tolking
obout different times she hos been in love ond whot it wos like,

ond so I would be curious to know whot ore times in your life


Dovid ended by odmiring something obout

her-thot she reolly

cores

when you suddenly felt like you knew you were in love?

obout moking reol connections, which hoppens to be true, ond by telling


her thot he found thot ottroctive, which olso hoppens to be true. ln this

woy he mode the Romontic Question even more romontic by finding her
interest, odmiring it ond telling her

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womon lo whom he's ottrocted. These lost moves took the whole interoction to o more personol level.

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RON: I iust wont to know oboul one or two. I con recoll whot it wos
like when you soy

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TERRI: Right, 'This person is perfed." The chemisiry is there, the com-

RON: lwould be curious, whot ore some of the best first dotes you've

mon interests ore there, the wit ond wormth ond ployfulness ore

ever been on? When you meel someone ond it is going greot ond

there. The ployfulness is importont, so lhose things come together,

you might meet for coffee-like we might be doing soon-ond

ond so you soy, "This is it, this is greol."

fiings ore good ond then you go out on o more romontic dole.
Whot qre some romqntic dotes you con recoll thot went greot?

RON: So it is greot.
TERRI: Storting out with dinner ond iust wolking oround, moybe

TERRI: You iust go oround ond gush.

downtown, ond seeing the night sky from vorious ploces, sorf of

RON: Do you believe in love ot first sight? ls thot possible?

checking out whofs here, whofs there, whot new clubs ore there.
Just kind of exploring together. Then wolking bock to the cor ond

TERRI: Oh yes.

thinking, "l don't wont lo go home" ond he soys lo me, "Do you
wont lo go home yet?" ond I soy, "No, not me." Jusl continuing,

RON: ls it hoppening right now, os we speok?

finding o quiet ploce... Going to eoch club, opening the door, soy-

TERRI: [Loughs] l'm nol going to tell you thot!

ing, "No, too loud," closing the door ond moving on to the next

RON: Whqt ore the secrets? Does it hoppen to you, love ol first sight

or lust ot first sight?


TERRI: Lust ol first sight, yes, love ot first sight, no. lt might loke o cou-

one. Jusl not wonling the evening to end, iust being together, iust
tolking ond wolking.

RON: So whot is it qbout thot thot is so omozing to you? You were


together wolking oround, ond whot is it obout thot thot is so

ple of sights, though.

romqntic or sensuol to you?

RON: A couple of moments?


TERRI: Just the wonting to stoy together, wonting to know more obout

TERRI: Yes, pretty quickly, usuolly in o few doys.

the other person to sort of groduolly getting closer, iust sort of

bumping into eoch other iust sod of holding honds, iust step by

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tic evenings trcgether. One thing to notice is how he brings the things she
soys bock to his relotionship with her ond iS inevitoble success by soying

things like 'You ore giving me lors of good tips on where I con loke you'"

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the sights ond sounds together. lf you were in some exotic ploce,

you would probobly lose your focus, I think, on the other person.

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you, is thot whot you ore telling me?

DAVID: I wos tolking to o friend of mine recently obout kissing. We

TERRI: Right.

were wolching on old movie on W where there wos o lot of kissThis womon gove Ron

q lot of informotion when he osked obout

ing going on ond we gol inlo o conversotion obout the whole lost

her

ort of kissing. You know, people dont think obout thot enough.

ideol romontic dote, ond he got curious ond wonted to boil it down to

the bottom line. So he osked her, "So whot is it obout thot thot is so

Oh, logree.

omozing Ioyov?" And thot deepened her even more into the beling she
DAVID: I like everything thot your normol guy likes, but sometimes

liked so much.

ihink I like kissing more thon your overoge guy does.


h's

worth noting thot you con use the question 'nVhot is it obout thot?"

SUE: Oh, thofs greot.

ony time o womon is describing on experience thot she enioyed' She


enioys going from club to club, iust wolking oround with o guy? Asking

DAVID: I wqs thinking obout

whot is your fovorite

o kiss? There ore so mony different stoges to o kiss,

'tVhot is it obout thot thol wos so greot?" will help her focus even more

moment in

on those feelings you wont her to be hoving with you.

you know? Like you ore oboul to kiss, then you stqrt to kiss, then
you ore reolly inio the kiss, then there's the first momenl your

lf you listen lo o womon's onswers to your Romontic Queslions, she will

tongues touch... And you could be kissing someone ond the world

often outline whot her ideol dote is. You will then use thot informolion

iust seems to stop, you know? So whot is your fovorite moment in

when you construcl o seduction dote with her. ln this cose, Terry is telling

Ron thot one thing thot might moke her hoppy is wolking oround down-

town, holding honds ond exploring. He's creoled o connection with her,

creoted some romontic feelings ond discovered

potentiol plon for

seducing her. Greot!

SU

kiss?

E: I just love thot very first instont when your lips come together.
There is nothing like it. lt gels good

ofbr thot too.

But you know,

you ore seporole, you ore seporole, you ore seporote, then you
get closer, closer, closer, you know you ore going to kiss ond then

you know the lips touch. Oh, to me thofs iust sensotionol.


DAVID: Hove you ever hod one of those times where you ore obout to
kiss somebody ond i/s winler ond there's stotic electicity ond there

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SUE: [Loughs] I think thot hos hoppened. But I think it wos his broces.

should try to moke the whole lip touch their whole lip. And then

you con just slightly move your lips, like o gentle mossoging kind

DAVID: Thot moment iust before it hoppens is my fovorite momenl

of movement, so you ore reolly using your lips like fingers.

too, I think.

You

know, you ore reolly filling up the person's lips with your lips, if

SUE: Yes, iust the very inslonl when your lips first touch.

you con imogine.

DAVID: Especiolly for the first time with someone ond you reolly like
them ond you reolly trust them.
SU

lice my kissing.

E: Especiolly if they know how to kiss. I meon, I hove been out with
men

DAVID: I con imoginetyou ore moking me wont to try thot out, proc-

thd hove been morried ond do not know how to

kiss.

This is o spot where octuolly toking thot first kiss would be o fine thing

lo do. Dovid could leon ocross ond soy, 'You meon, something

Things ore going greot. She's responsive to the question, so thofs reolly

like

this?" ond kiss her exoctly os she described.

greol news, ond she's getting used to shoring on this level obout such
intimote topics ond hoving if be o good time.

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Romontic Question could leod to

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first-kiss situotion. As they shore

more deeply obout kissing, ond os the vibe becomes more intimote, it

would be o simple motter for Dovid to leon over ond soy something like

'lVhot o greot ideq, I think l'll

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DAVID: I hove been wotching o lot of different movies lotely. l've been
in sort of o film-festivol mode oround my house. I meqn, I like
oction films but olso hove been getting into more romontic kind of

nov/' ond do it.

films, like When Horry Met Sally.

DAVID: So how do you

kiss?

Whot would your odvice be for me?

SUE: llikethotone.

Le/s soy you ond I ore kissing, hypotheticolly, ond if we got to

DAVID: I iust love lhose scenes where o womon is being swept off her

know eoch other thot woy, whot would be o good kiss?

feet ond iust reolly oble to iusl totolly let go intrc some sort of

SUE: Well, I don't like o first kiss where your mouth is honging completely open. Thot is iust too much

bo

whirlwind romonce. And I wos iust wondering, whd qre some of


your fovorite romontic scenes or romontic movies?

soon. Thot is iust gross.

Your lips should be iust slightly ported, ond your lips need to be

very reloxed ond flexible. When you touch eoch other's lips, you

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So//y, couse it is one of my fovorite movies. And I hove
scene

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is when Horqy ond Solly ore

o fovorite

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porty but they ore not in o relotonship with eoch other, but they
hove both tried relotionships with other people, ond there is o
momenl when Horry oll of o sudden he looks ot her ond he reolizes thot she is the one ond thot he loves her. He gets q look on
his foce, you con reod his mind, he is iust like looking ot her with

love in his eyes.

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SUE: He wos pretending to be o morried mon so he would not get


committed in his relotionships. I con't think of the nome but thot

is

o reolly good movie.


DAVID: Well, it's good to get connected lo o women who knows some
of those films. You know whot I think would be fun one night is to
get together, cuddle up together, get some popcorn ond wotch

Chorade or somelhing like thot.

SUE: Yes, thotwould be fun.

DAVID: Wow, thot's reolly cool. I hove olso been looking ot some of
the Cory Gronl movies. Like him ond Audrey Hepburn in

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Chorade.

SUE: Oh, CharadelThot is one of my fovorite movies, I hove thot


movie.

You now know obout osking Romontic Questions. You hove seen the
spectrum of risk thot those questions con cover ond how ihey creote con-

DAVID: lwould love to see thot film ogoin: the woy they ploy together

versotion, intimocy ond openings for going deeper into your connec-

ond how Cory Gront is olwoys chonging identies ond they hove

tions with o womon. You've seen how using Romontic Questions does o

such fost ropport ond ore so witty.

lot to keep you out of the friends zone ond creotes conversotions thot o

SUE: Thot is such o greot movie, ond romontic. lt is so clever ond

friend would never hove with o womon.

romontic. I reolly love oll the movies Cory Gronl mode, I reolly
love Io Cotch

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There is o greot moment when Groce Kelly

iust kisses the heck out of him.

DAVID: Yep, I remember thot.


SUE: She iust like tokes him. Thot is o greol scene.

DAVID: Whot is thot greot movie he mode

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There ore other importonl steps to seducing

o womon beyond simply

being oble to tolk to her. You need to get her number or emoil oddress

ond sei up the dote. You need to be oble to tolk to her on the
okoy, we've covered

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in exhoustive

dote-

detqill-ond you need to be oble

to go for the first kiss.

ln our doting cooching proctice, we get lots of questions qbout these


issues, so the first

porl of this chopter will be in question ond onswer

formot. Then we'll tolk obout going for the first kiss.

For further informotion obout everything covered in

$is chopter ond to

leorn obout where to meet women/ Priming Dotes, Seduction Dotes ond
much, much more, check out our book How fo Succeed wilh Women,

ond, of course/ our website, howtosucceedwilhwomen.com.

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no trick trc it, os you'll see from this

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QUESTION: Hey guys-l iusl wonled to osk how lo close the deol
with o girl. After tolking

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especiolly ol the beginning of your seduction of her. Shocking os it

o while I still hove trouble get-

moy seem, o womon who is interested in you willvery likely not

ting their numbers or osking them out on dotes. I would oppreciote

coll bock. Of course, neither will o womon who is not interested,

your odvice.

so you jusl con't use collbock frequency os

trc

them

o meosure of how

much she likes you.

ANSWER: This is simpler thon you might think. After chotting with o
womon for o while ond doing some of the flirting moves so she

So when should you coll her? When you wont to. But don't keep

knows yov're interested, you simply sey, "Hey, you seem cool.

Whot would it be like if we went out for o cup of coffee sometime?

lewing messoges-simply coll. lf she onswers, greol, but only leove


o messoge once in o while. lf ofter the third messoge she hosn't

Could I hove your emoil oddress or phone number?" lf she soys

colled you bock, she's not interested, ond tho/s too bod. Time

yes, try lo set up the dote right then.

trc

move on.

l/s reolly jusl o motter of opening your mouth (oL os Ron colls il,
Sodly, the phone con become o reol stumbling block. Don't worry

your "pie trop") ond risking reiection by osking her.

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she might think you ore weird for colling-remembe6 she's

looking lo you to see whether or not she should bel weird obout

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things. lf you don't think ifs weird to coll her, odds ore she won't,

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either.

Mony o successful dote lives or dies on how you use the phone. You'll
see in these questions thot we consislently give one piece of odvice: get

This problem points tro the imporlcnce of getting her emoil oddress.
Set up the dote vio emoil or o combinotion of emoil ond telephone

her emoil oddress!

ond you'll be woy oheod of the gome.


Q: I reolly like this girl in school (we ore both in college). I think she

is

responsive whenever I tolk with her ond I don't think she hos o

boyfriend. I got her number ond she soid I could coll her, bul l've
cqlled severol times ond she hosn't colled bock. Whot should I do?

time ond dote for the Priming Dote? I hote to keep colling, trying
to cotch her in person, especiolly becouse Cqller lD ond *69 con
moke it sooo eosy to find oui who iust colled you.

Should I leove her olone?

A: When o womon doesn't coll you bock, it does nol meon thol she
isn't inlerested in you. Never expecl o womon to coll you bock,

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Q: How do I deolwifi onswering mochines when trying to set up o

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This is o reol problem ond con kill o romonce before it even gets

ltqrlcd. Howover, there is q woy to block coller lD. lt vories from

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qreo to oreo, but it's often occomplished by dioling *62, ihen the

However, the big snog l'm hitting lotely is ofter getling the girl's

*62, then
number-coller lD shows you os "Privote Number." Diol

number. l've hod obout

the number. lf you get the mochine, hong up. Check your phone

veqy ollrocted to me give up the phone number, ihen either never

*67 moy nol work in oll oreos.


book before trying this;

coll bock or moke up stupid excuses to not go out. l'm used to

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girls over the post monfh who seem

hoving ot leost three dotes per week ond l've hod none for severol

Of course, fiis doesn't meon you shouldn't ever leove o messoge.


Just don't leove more thon three of them.

weeks now so it's frustroting.

And how you do this

depends o lot on how hot o leod the womon is. lf you hove greot

ropport with her qnd hove flirted wirh her mony times ond ifs pretty
cleor she's iust being scotterbroined, you con soy something like "l
hove

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tellyou, I hove o policy. I don't meon

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be meon, but I cqn't

leqve more thon three messoges wifiout getting o coll bock. lf you

don't get bock to me, I won'l be oble to coll you for o long time.

Whot you ore bumping up ogoinst is o very common pottern


we've noliced with our sfudents: success ond foilure seem to come
in woves. Thot's port of the seduction life. By woves, we meon thot
there seem to be trends in doting thqt ore outside of your control,

bosed in some sort of rqndomness or luck. And it's weird: some-

like you ond you seem like o greol womon, but thofs iust whofs up.

Anylvoy, my number is..." This isn't heovy; you're not yelling ot


her...iust telling her the woy it is. You oren't upset, iust strrting the
focts.

times every womon colls bock-somelimes none do. Somelimes


every womon you dote wqnts lo sleep with you. Sometimes there

ore periods of no sex. Somelimes every womon you interoct with


is

q blonde. Sometimes they oll seem to be schoolteochers.

Stronge though these trends moy seem, they ore normol. And in

lf she doesn't return your colls ofter three messoges, we think she's
probobly not intere$ed. lf you see her, don't mention the colls-do
not confront her obout itl Flirt with her more ond try to set up o dote

right thenl

Q:

You certoinly ore hoving some solid success, ond thot is greol.

time, the trends olwoys furn.

ln the meontime, here ore some other pointers we invite you to refed on:

How long do you woit to coll the womon ofter you get the num-

Since I begon studying How to Succeed with Women obout o yeor

ond o holf ogo/ over ond over ogoin, l've become exlremely successful. l've reoched the point where I con get olmost ony single

ber? Perhops you ore woiting too long to coll ond set up the dote.

Moybe you should try to tie down the dote ot the some time you
get the phone number.

womon's phone number ond I now hove o high success role o[

Are you octively doing the three-step reiection process when things

hoving sex on doles.

don't work oul or ore you getting demorolized?

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Remember thot doting is o numbers gome. You will probobly hove to

heor o certoin number of nos before you get o yes, so this is one more
no you won'l hove to heor ogoin on your woy to the inevitqble yes from

someone else.

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When is o good time to stort sending romontic letters viq emoil?

hove known this girl for qbout two weeks. Extremely hot. I hove to
shoke guys' honds everywhere I go just becouse they hove seen
me with her. I don't wont to push it too fost with the romontic tolk,

but I olso wont her to think romonticolly obout me. I olso hove her
2. Chonge your interpretotion of why she reiected you from something

home oddress if you would like to odd onything there...

thot hqs to do with you lo something thot hos to do with her or with life.

"l guess she didn't heor me." "Looks like she's wropped up in her own

A: Good work on the first steps-going out with o womon you find

world." "Perhops her dog iust died." Remembe4 iusl becouse on explonotion is poinful doesn'l meon you hove to believe it. Find on explono-

ottroctive. Now for $e nexl step-turning mindless honging out


into somelhing romontic ond sexuol.

tion thot is not poinful for you ond proctice believing thot.
You don't soy much obout your relotionship now. Whofs it like?

3. Redirect your ottention fo something else. Don't dwell in the reiec-

Are you kissing? Moking out? Hoving sex? Heck, ore you even

tion-find

holding honds? Does she know you ore not iust o friend? This stuff

in

something else-onyhing else*ond letyourself get obsorbed

is importont.

it.

lf they don't coll you bock, do you then ossume they ore not

intrer-

ested ond not coll them ogoin? We recommend thot you expecl

deduce thot you ore probobly not hwing sex with her. You must

them not to coll you bock qnd thot you coll o number of

stort showing your romontic interesl in her. You must be compliment-

times-

soy, three times-before you give up on them. With eoch coll, oct

ing her, for one thing. lf you ore noi complimenting her os o womon

os though the previous coll never hoppened. Never confront o

or showing your romontic interest ihen you ore reolly in trouble-

womqn obout nol colling you bock.

she moy be thinking of you os q friend

Do you ever gel their emoil oddresses? This mighr be o more efbclive woy to seduce them. lf they ore busy moybe emoil is more effi-

cient-ond you con use Romonlic Questions, Deepening ond other


seduction moves lo "pre-seduce" lhem vio emoil before the dotre.

Since you ore relucicnl to mqke romontic trrlk with her, we con

utCIt!,i0uhtm0fi

ulbium,oilull

olreod.

Emoil is greot becouse it gives you the opportunity to soy things,


especiolly romontic things, thot you might not normolly hove the
nerve trc soy lo o womon. lt gives you on opporfunity lo run "visuol-

izolionr' on her. Rememberi when you describe something

trc some-

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one, she hos to go inside ond imogine whot you ore describing iust

to be oble to trock with whot you ore tolking obout. lf I describe o

cow you hqve lo imogine it. By the some bken, if you describe on
experience trc someone, she hos to go inside ond imogine hwing
rhot experience in order to understond whot you ore tolking obout.

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Q: How con I go from hond-holding to something more intense? I find
I con get to the point where l'm sitting on the couch with o

womon, wotching o movie ond holding honds. But whot nexf?

So you wqnt to writre emoils thot describe wonderful feelings of love

ond romonce tc the womon of your dreoms. This will gei her in the

You've heord the soying "God is in the detoils"? Well, so is sex, os

right stote of mind for your nexl move.

it turns out. lf you con bring exquisite, detoiled ottention to even o

tiny port of her body, she'll go nuts for more. The mistoke most

big*ond

We suggest love poems. Seorch online or go to o bookstrore or

men moke is they wont to move on to something

librory ond look under love poetry. Write her emoils thot soy things

odvonce from hond-holding to something more, you hqve to focus

like "l sow this poem ond it mode me think of you. I thought l'd

on being smollond slow

fost. To

shore it." Then enclose the poem. Feel free lo use the some Poem on

o number of women, iust so long os they don't know eoch other.

This meons slowly coressing the polm of her hond or ftcuching your

fingertips fic hers ond reolly bringing your ottenlion trr the beling of
ln your siluotion, romontic emoils should be port of your

the sensolion. Or you might iust lightly stroke the inside of her wrist.

opprooch. You should be showing your romontic interest ond tok-

You do this to drow her ottention

ing her on o Seduction Dote. You should hove on outcome in mind

ore shoring. Also, toke your time with it. Most of our students ore

for eoch dote-kissing her? hoving sex? Be sure to pursue other

ofroid thot if they don't rush sexuol inbroctions, sex will never hop-

women-don't let her be your one-ond-only hope-ond be willing

pen. But it turns out the opposite is lrue. lf you show thot you ore

to risk finding out whot she thinks of you. lf you hoven't kissed her

reolly willing fic give her detqiled, ottrentive touching ond thot you

yet, you should soon. Whotever you do, don't let this thing remoin

oren't pushing things, it will very often drow her towords you. Also,

"moybe friends, moybe potentiol lovers." Be the mon, push the siF

if you ore willing trc show thot you hove some foith thqt sex will hop-

uotion ond find out.

pen-you show this by not pushing things too hord, or too fostyou will be very oltroclive

ic the subtleties of the ficuch you

her. You won't be like oll the bone-

heoded guys who either ore friends becquse they show no intrerest

ot oll or ore ierks becouse they try

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trc

push her into sex.

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You moy olso wont to hold eye conficct while you ore doing this

touching. Don't force


Be

il

if she turns to look ot you, hold her goze'

These steps

will help build the reol energy ond intimocy between

you ond open the golewoy for more conlocl.

willing to look intrc her eyes ond tc have her look inb yours'

Show her you ore willing to hold thot intimote contrrct. She'll probo-

bly be looking ic you for whether i/s okoy or not to connect so


strongly, so let yourself believe

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hot i/s okoy-don'f woit for her to


Sometimes men wont

believe i/s fine before you do.

to toke tolking further when they hoven'l

even

done the oppropriote tolking first. lf o womqn thinks of you os o friend


This is o good time to comment on the energy between you'

ond you ore interested in her romonlicolly then you must loke oction to

Commenling on the energy drqws her otlenlion to it without it seem-

toke things forfher. Here's o question obout thot.

ing like you ore lorcing onything. Soying,

'!Vow this energy

beween us is reolly omozing" con do o lot to intensify her oworeness ond occeptonce of thot energy. lf she soys, 'Yes, it reolly feels

greol," tho/s when you might wqnt lo kiss her. You con either slowly
leon in ond kiss her without soying onything or use the onnouncement method ond soy something like "Dont ponic, l'm going to kiss

you now."

Q: ls it possible to turn o womon from o friend into o lover even if


you've known her os o friend for o few months?
A: Yes, it is possible to turn o womon from o friend to o lover if you
know whot to

do-but

even then it won't work every time. Some

women keep you os o friend becouse you've been too scored to


moke your romonlic inlerest known or becouse you've mode o
bunch of boneheod mistokes ond olienoted her (ot leost temporori-

Commenting on ihe energy is olso o greot lesl ic see whether she is


reody for rhe first kiss or not. lf she soys, "Eh, I don't feel much ener-

gy," then you know to not bother trying to kiss her' lf she soys, 'Yes,

ly) from being romontic. Perhops you've mqde fort iokes, soid collous things or treoted her like o buddy-nothing too serious. These

ore women you've got o shoi of chonging into lovers.

I feel it ond it reolly scores me, I think we should slow things down,"
then you know to bock off for o while until she is comfortoble. Often

women will pose some sort of problem ot

will hondle

fiis point ic see how you

il 'tVill he be potient wih me or will he orgue, poul or

be o ierk?" Be potient, don't resist her resislonce ond go bock to

hond-holding. Move closer ogoin lobr.

Other women hqve you squorely in the iust friends cotegory ond

you oin't goin' onyrvhere, pol. These women moy be morried or in


relotionships, they moy be difficuh, high-mointenonce women

or*

the sod foct-they simply moy not like you very much ond iust keep

you oround

br when they hove

nothing better to do. You ore unlike-

ly ic furn lhase women intrc lovers, but by trying, ot leost you'll get

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who
them out of your life ond cleor some psychic spoce for women

Consequently, he is indecisive ond oppeors weok trc her, olwoys


neryous, olwoys woiting for her ic relox before he reloxes. He does-

do wont to be sexuol with You.

n'l ever flirt or soy onything romontic becouse he doesn'l wonl


So whot con you do trc get "iusl o friend"
L,e/s

ic become your lover?

look ot the bosic primer on friends-to-lovers, Louis & Copelond

trc

risk moking her uncombrtoble. Only if he hos o cleor signol thot

flirting is okoy will he do it. This will never work.

style.

lf you ore going trr be seductive with o womon, you musl be willing

pursue other women.

lf you wont

ic furn o friend inb o lover,

to provide the certointy thot everything in the interoction is

okoy-

it is cruciol beyond words thot she not be your one-ond-only-hope


for sex. You must be pursuing olher women, flirting with other

even if i/s romonlic. Thot meons thot you believe il's okoy ond let

women, romoncing other women ond being sexuol with other

rhing is greot! Since she's probobly been looking irc you ond your

women. Pursuing ond being successfi;l with other women is the only

behovior ic know how to feel obout things, most of the time this will

woy to hove reol freedom oround the friend you ore trying to
seduce. lt will give you o sense of potience with her, remove ony

octuolly help her relox.

moke you
sense of desperotion you moy be feeling oround her ond

You musl srort doing oll rhe flirling moves.

less

woiloble-qnd

her know it. You don't oct like lhere's o problem-you oct like every-

You olso must

strrrt using the flirting skills. You must osk 'Whot's the stoqy behind

thus more oliroclive-trc her'

lhot?" You must proctice Situotionol Fli*ing ond the Goodbye

Acr like o lover, nor like q femqle friend'

Pop quiz, hot-

lntroduction. You must condud Romontic Conversolions ond

shot whot does o mon who becomes o womon's friend do difbrent-

Deepening Conversotions. When you stort incorporoting lhese

if
ly with her thon onother womon would? Answer: nothing. Morol:

behoviors intc your lib, women will nof wonder whether you ore o

you wonr o womon trr see you os o sexuol mon, rolher thon bosicol-

wimpy friend or o potentiol lover. You'll be o potentiol lover every

ly os on ugly womon, then you musl ocl differently lhon onother

time-or she'll get rid of you. (More on thot below.)

womqn would. This is true for women you ore iust meeting os well
os for women who

hwe known you for o while ond olreody think of

Be upbeor qnd be b.rsy. The chonces ore you ore kind of

you os o friend. Bottrom line: you must flirt with her, weird os it moy

depressed when you're with the femole friend you wont lo hove sex

feel to you the first time you do it. You must flirt'

with, comploining obout your life ond generolly being o whiner. You
must strcp doing ihot right owoy. She should find herself thinking,

so often q mon who ends up o womon's friend fulls into the trop of
wonting lhe womon to bel combrtoble obove oll else'

sulrutmrmnlulbhumil tm,lill

'tV'or, he seems pretty hoppy,

even wilhout me. l'd better get o

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piece of thot!" rother thon 'Wow, this guy is o downer." You must

poinful for me to be iust friends with someone I bel this woy obout.

ocl more upbeot, like you hove something going on in your life' The

l'm ottrocted fo you." Then sficp honging oround with

best woy to do this is to pursue olher women {see obove).

you'll be doing something positive for your self-esteem os o mon.

One mon we know did thls with o womon he wos interested in. She

Don'l bockslide.

hod doted him o few times, then decided they should be iust friends.

you moy be trempled to foll into the trop of octing like o friend

("1'm very excited," she trcld him.

"l'm excited you ore going

trc

be

her*ot

leost

lf she goes for it ond gets romontic with you,

ogoin. Don't do it! Follow seducfion protrccol.

my new best friend." Arrrgl) He storted following the doting fundomenlols oggressively ond soon found himself being sexuolwith

onolher womon. ln thot ploce of sexuol obundonce, he wos oble to

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be hoppier ond less woiloble oround lhe womon who wonted tc be


The first kiss con come ot ony time in on interoction with o womon. This

iust friends.

is o criticolly importont point. So mony men mess up their seductions of


He told us, "She colled to lell me she'd be trco busy trc see me for o

women by thinking the first kiss hos lo come ot the end of the dote. They

while ond I wos oble

trc honestly

fine-thot I wos reol-

therefore don't hove their eyes open for opportunities to go for the kiss

ly looking forword

seeing her ond thot we'd get 1cgether whenev-

eorlier ond put so much pressure on themselves ot the end of the dote

irc

soy it wos iust

er we both found the time. Her response? 'But I reolly wont lo see

thot they mess up the kiss onywoy.

you!' By being hoppy ond busy, l've been oble t'c keep her pursuing
me, ond l'm confident l'll end up in bed with her." He's free irc be

As you proctice flirting, you'll find thot there ore more opportunilies lo

polient with her, to work the seduction slowly, ond not be ottoched

build up to ond go for the first kiss thon you used to think. For exomple,

to the outcome. Be upbeot ond busy if you wont to turn o friend into

we olwoys suggest thot you behove like o gentlemon wi$ women. lf o

o lover.

womon interests you, lry to olwoys open doors for her. ln o nice restouront, pull out the choir for her. lf she is o possenger in your cor, open the
lf you do whot we soy, things will

door for her ond close it for her ofter she gets in. These little gentlemon-

slrrl seeming more romontic with the women you befriended. She'll

ly moves ore like the Flirting Moves; they keep reminding her thot you

either get with the progrom (ond probobly soy, 'You've chonged!")

ore nol iust o friend. You ore o mon, treoting her like o womon. This will

or she'll tell you in no uncerloin lerms thot you ore now ond will for-

go o long woy loword conlinuing the seduction. ln o woy, being o gen-

R.efuse

to snoy iust friends.

ever be iust friends. lf thot hoppens, you hove

trc

stop honging

oround with her. Without hedging, tell her, "l'm sorry but i/s trco

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demon is o form of Situolionol Flirting, becouse you qre using the ele-

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ments of the situotion you ore in os o woy of continuolly showing her

the elements of the situotion fic show romonlic interest (though it wosn't

your romontic intentions. This con leod to o first

comic, os most Situotionol Flirting is). As they woited outside the club for

kiss.

Here's on exomple: Dovid wos once on o dqte thot hod been set up by

some friends

of his. His two friends (o couple) hod decided to ploy

motchmoker ond hod set up

their friends, Betsy osked Dovid, 'Aren't you cold?" He onswered, 'Yes,
oOkoy,'ond they leoned fitg"thbut o kiss would worm me up!" She soid,
er ond kissed.

o dinner for the four of them. Now, we

olwoys odvise our students not lo count on their friends lo set lhem up,

At thd point, they hod known eoch other obout two hours. He hod firted

but ot the some lime being set up is on occeptoble port of your doting

ond shown romontic interest ond she hod responded. Once this kiss hod

strolegy. lt iust should never be your one-ond-only hope. We olso usuolly tell men to hove Priming Dotes before hoving dinner dotes. (A

hoppened, Dovid's queslion wos no longer'lVill she get sexuolwith me?"


The question become one of 'lVhen?" By poying otlention to the environ-

Priming Dote is o cofhe dote you hove with o womon. You don't move

ment ond using the situotion to his odvonlrege, Dwid wos oble to get

on to Seduction Dotes-bosicolly evening dotes-until you've estob-

first kiss well before the end of the dote-ond much more lqter in the

lished some mutuol sexuol inbrest. See our book How

lo

Succeed wilh

$e

evening.

Women for much more on Priming Dotes ond Seduction Dotes.)


Here's onolher exomple. Ron wos on o Priming Dote with o womon in o

But few rules ore corved in stone, so Dovid went olong on this dinner-

ond-doncing dote. lt turned out the womon, Betsy, wos very

prefi ond

coffee shop. He hod done the Flirting Moves qnd osked his dote the
Romonlic Question

'lVhot

is your ideol romontic dole?" She responded

intelligent. They hod o good time ot dinner; Dovid wos flirting with her,

enthusiosticolly, telling him, 'There ore octuolly three ideol scenorios"

smiling, holding eye conloct, winking ond checking out her body. He

ond describing them in detoil. She then osked him obout his ideol romon-

osked her'Whofls the story behind thot?" ond did some Deepening. He

tic dote, ond they looked into eqch othey's eyes os he tolked obout it.

osked the Romontic Question

'lVhot is your ideo of o mosl romontic

dqte?" ond oll four of them discussed it. Dovid noticed thot ofter this,

She excused herself to go to the bqthroom. When she come out of the

Betsy's eyes sporkled os she looked ot him.

bolhroom, she poused in front of the fire burning in the coffee shop's
fireploce. Ron come up behind her ond gently put his honds on her

After dinner the four of them went doncing. Dovid's friends lei Dovid ond
Betsy

off in front of the donce club while they went to pork lhe cor. lt wos

shoulders. She turned ond smiled, looking into his eyes, ond they kissed
severol times. This wos ofter knowing her for oboul on hour.

cold, so Dovid took off his iockei ond put it oround B"tty't shoulders os
they wolked trc the club. This wos Situotionol Flirting in thot it wos using

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One of our students mel o womon ol o compus grocery co-op. They hit

but of course, you never know. The bottom line: if you've shown romon-

it off ond he osked her if she'd like to go to o coffee shop with him. She

tic interest, she shouldn't be surprised when you go to kiss her.

soid yes, so they went lo one ond tolked for over on hour. He did the
Flirting Moves ond Deepening ond osked some Romonlic Questions.

Second, she must like the ideo of being kissed. You test this through the

During o Deepening Conversotion he osked her, 'lVhot would you most

flirting ond Romqntic Conversotions thof you do. lf she resists your flirt-

like to be doing with your life?" She onswered, ond there wos o very

ing

close, intimote feeling in the oir. She osked him the question bock. He

body or turns owoy when you wink-she probobly is not interested in

onswered, "l don't knowwhot lwont to be doing with my life, but I know

the first kiss. lf she onswers oll your Romontic Questions with one-word

thot right now I wont to be kissing you." She blushed ond soid, "Okayi'

or evosive replies, she's probobly not interested. Don't bother going for

ond he leoned ocross ond kissed her. From thot point on, there wos no

the kiss; she's nol interesbd.

if she won't hold eye contoct, glores ot you when you check out her

question thot their relotionship wos romqntic, not iust friends. Totol time

from meeling her to getting thot first kiss? One hour ond 20 minutes.

lf she's been receptive trc oll the other romontic things you've done then you

con go
Does this hoppen every time? Of course not. But it con hoppen

o lot more

thon most men reolize-but you hove lrc toke the opportunity to go for the
kiss when it presents itself. Simply

hwing on eye open br opportunity will

br

the first kiss

wifi o good

chonce of success. There ore o couple

of woys trr do it. You con osk her if you con kiss her, but mony women ftnd
this offonsVe, believe it or nol. You con "iusl do it
run the risk of doing it ogoinst her

will-which

is

"

but when you do, you

third-degree sexuol ossoult

dromoticolly increose your chonces of getting the first kiss well bebre the

if it

end of the dob.

onnouncing the kiss by leoning trrword her ond sqying something like

pisses her off enough. (Don't soy we

'Wow, l'm going tc

kiss you"

didnt worn youl) We like simply

or "Don't ponic, l'm going tc

kiss you." This

works well ond doesn't leqve her thinking thot you ore o beggor or o ierk.

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There ore two bosic conditions

fiot

work (for o lol more on this,

How lo Succeed with Womenl. First, she

see

must be creoled for the first kiss to

c0llcil$n1l

must not be surprised by the kiss. She must be thinking of it or seeing it

Tolking to women is not the only component of succeeding with women,

os somewhot inevitoble. This will hoppen if you've shown your romontic

though it is o criticol porl. You still must be oble to get her number or

interest, if you've done whot we've outlined in this book, ond

here's the

X-foctor-if she likes you. lf you do fiese things, shet likely to like you,

emoil oddress, set up the dote ond go for thot oll-importont first kiss. lf
you odd the skills in this chopter

whot you now know obout tolking to

women, you'll go o long woy toword hoving the sex life you desire.

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Congrotulotions! From this moment forword, you never hove lo feel like

you ore "stuck" in your tolking to women ogoin. You now know the
Flirting Moves, 'lVho/s the story behind lhol?," Situotionol Flirting,
Deepening, the Goodbye lntroduction, Romontic Questions ond more.

With these skills ovoiloble to you, you olwoys hove someploce to go in


o conversqtion. You con use your curiosity ond osk o question. You con
do some Deepening. You con osk o Romontic Question. You con toke o
risk. You con moke sure you ore smiling, winking or conveying vitolity

with your body. As you proctice with this moleriol, you will find thot
lhere's olwoys o direction you con go in o conversolion with o womon,

ond thot is very reloxing knowledge, indeed.

You've olso leorned thot tolking to (ond seducing)women is o sequence,

ond the ports of $e sequence oll fit together. lf you don't know whot to
do ond ore seeing o womon for the first time, you con soy hi or use the

Goodbye lntroduction. Those moves often leod to opportunities lo

use

your curiosity, either by osking o curiosity queslion ond follow-up questions or by osking 'Whofs the stoqy behind thot?"

Other limes, you'll find you con go from hi to o Situotionol Flirting move,
moking some sort of loke or creqlive misinterpretotion obout the environmenl, ond you con bond by being silly ond loughing together. Doing

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thot will often leod lo good,

plolul

feelings, from which you con olso

osk o curiosity question or 'lVhot/s the story behind thot?"

R|l[ Hllallu._.
Ultimotely, the conclusion of this book is writien by you.

Once

o womon storls

reloxing with you,

Deepening Questions. You might sey,

"l

i/s

eosy

lo

strcrt osking

know thot everyone's iob hos

moments they don't like, but very often there ore momenls where you

feel like, 1Mow, this is whot I wos put on eor$ to do.' l'd be curious to

h/s

written by you

in how you live your life ond how you use this moteriol. lf you look ot this
os on interesting book thot you got o fow tips out of, tho/s fine. But this
book will be oll the more powerful if you review the progrom ond set it

trc

work. You write the conclusion...in howyou use this book in your lib.

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