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oe GRIERSON
CMKM DIAMONDS, INC.
Plaintite
vs.
DEPT. NO. XI
URBAN CASAVANT, et al.
: Transcript of
Defendants : Proceedings
BEFORE THE HONORABLE ELIZABETH GONZALEZ, DISTRICT COURT JUDGE
JURY TRIAL - DAY 7
FRIDAY, AUGUST 26, 2011
APPEARANCES:
FOR THE PLAINTIFF: BILL FRIZZELL, ESQ.
DAVID KOCH, ESQ.
WILLIAM SHEPHERD, E:
FOR THE DEFENDANTS: JAMES R. CONDO, ESQ.
ALEXANDER L. FUGAZZI, ESQ.
PATRICIA REFO, ESQ.
ANDY STONE, ESQ.
COURT RECORDER: TRANSCRIPTION BY:
SILL HAWKINS FLORENCS HOYT
District Court Las Vegas, Nevada 89146
Proceedings recorded by audio-visual recording, transcript
preduced by transcription service.
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{TAOLAS VEGAS, NEVADA, FRIDAY, AUGUST 26, 2011, 9:58 A.M.
(Court was called to order)
(Jury is not present)
THE COURT: Okay. We were going to talk about some
exhibit issues for Mr. Frizzell first.
MR. FRIZZELL: There's two 201 exhibits. I'm
trying --
‘TRE COURT: Proposed Exhibit 201?
MR. FRIZZELL: 201, yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Hold on a second. Let me catch up with
you. Okay.
MR. FRIZZELL: May I approach the clerk? I'd like
to have 201A marked. what I'm doing, Judge, is taking off the
first page of that exhibit, which is a letter signed by Brian
Dvorak, and asking the Court to allow me to supplement 201A,
which is the exact same exhibit without that letter.
THE COURT: Okay. Is there any objection to that,
MS. REFO: Mr, Stone is --
THE COURT: Mr. Stone.
MS. RBFO: -- handling the exhibits.
THE COURT: So if you turn to Tab 201, they're
taking away the page that has an actual Bates Stamp 7084 on
it, and then it would be 7085 through 7091 as the Proposed
201A.MR. STONE: And 201 has already been admitted.
THE COURT: No.
MR. FRIZZELL: If it has, we're okay, Judge.
THE COURT: 201 has not been admitted.
MR. STONE: We would have no objection to Proposed
Exhibit 201A.
THE COURT: 201A will be admitted.
(Plaintiff's Exhibit 201A admitted)
MR. FRIZZELL: Judge, as to 304 and 305 -~
THE COURT: Hold on a second. Let me get to that
part of my notebook. All right.
MR. FRIZZELL: Judge, those are I guess what I
would call demonstrative exhibits. And I don't know if the
Court wants them to actually be admitted at this time. And
they're -~
THE COURT: I don't typically admit demonstrative
exhibits. I let you use them for illustrative purposes with
the jury. But if counsel stipulate they want to have them
admitted, I always admit them. So these look like they're two
charts with circles on them.
MR. FRIZZELL: I was intending to blow this one up,
and that's why wanted the Court
THE COURT: Have fun.
MR. FRIZZELL: Thank you, Judge.
THE COURT: They're illustrative. He's CMKMDiamonds, and he says there's all this stuff that's related to
it, and there are circles all the way around.
MR. STONE: Well, we would object as to admitting
THE COURT: I'm not admitting it. I said he could
use it for illustrative purposes only unless you otherwise
stipulate.
Okay. Anything else?
MR. PRIZ2ELL: Judge, 301.
THE COURT: Okay.
MR. FRIZZELL: If I could approach the clerk, Judge.
THE COURT: Sure.
MR. PRIZZELL: I want to add a custodial --
declaration of custodian of records from Btrade to that
Exhibit 301. So I will make that -- and a cover letter
make that 301A.
THE COURT: Have you shown that custodian of records
certificate to the defendants?
MR. FRIZZBLL: It has been included. I mean, it's
in their discovery, and I've referenced it in our exhibit
list.
THE COURT: Why don't you show them, since they're
saying they haven't seen it before.
MR. FRIZZELL: I just gave them another copy. But
what we did is we disclosed to them all of thesubpoena -- records that were subpoenaed, and they were
disclosed along with these affidavits. And it was in digital
form it was done in digital form, so -- I don't know that
they've seen the original, but the way we ~~ the way we
disclosed is we -- we just sent it through a scanner, what we
got from in this case Etrade, and on the top of it was the
affidavit. That was done back early in discovery in this
case.
THE COURT: Okay. Does anybody have an objection to
the admission of the documents which are at 301 from Etrade
given the proffered custodian documentation?
MR. STONE: Yes, Your Honor. We have several
objections. One is -~
THE COURT: Let's hear what they are.
MR. STONE: -- relevance. This is an Etrade account
dealing with it looks to be Ginger Gutierrez, has --
THE COURT: That's what it says.
MR, STONE: -- nothing to do with our clients. The
other objection is that, despite the fact that there is now a
subpoena that appears to be a declaration of custodian of
records, there aren't any Bates labels in Document 301 that
would tie up that particular exhibit and those documents as to
it being disclosed pursuant to this custodian of records. And
also, Your Honor, the date on the custodian of records is
October 17th, 2007. The -- our clients were not includeduntil the first amended complaint was filed, August 13th,
2009.
THE COURT: So is your objection that it's not in
compliance with NRS 52.470?
MR. STONE: Yes, Your Honor
THE COURT: Mr. Frizzell, 52.470, which I am using a
banking institution to deal with Etrade, since it falls within
many of the banking regulations, is sort of specific about how
you have to do it.
MR. FRIZZELL: Judge, if when these records were
delivered to the defendant -- I mean -~ yeah, to the defendant
in this case, not in discovery. But at the time that we
issued they subpoenas they were not a party to the suit. I
understand that. Other than that, it appears we've complied
with that statute. I may be missing something. I apologize.
THE COURT: Let me tell you the part that I think is
the biggest problem. “The records must be preserved and
maintained as a cohesive unit, and may not be separated except
upon order of the court." And I think that's where the issue
is being raised. Correct?
MR. STONE: Yes, Your Honor.
MR. FRIZZELL: Well, we have it. We have those
records, Judge.
THE COURT: Where?
MR. FRIZZELL: They have them. well, they'reactually
THE COURT: Well, no. See, this is —- custodians of
records produce documents with a certificate on the top sheet
The documents are -- sometimes they're in an envelope, and
they all stay in the envelope. Sometimes they come Bates
stamped as group if counsel assists the person who's producing
the documents. Sometimes they send you an electronic image
nowadays with the custodian certificate and with the documents
attached.
Because the objection I am hearing from Mr. Stone is
that the documents are Bates stamped, they weren't in the case
when they were produced, they weren't given to them all
together, his objection is sustained.
MR. FRIZZELL: Okay. Judge, if --
MR. KOCH: I think, Your Honor, if I could, the
documents were given to the defendants all together, they just
were not provided an exhibit here to the Court. That's my
understanding of what Mr. Frizzell --
THE COURT: I don't know. That's
MR. ERIZZELL: But it was. That's -~
THE COURT: Well, but then show me the records that
are "maintained in the cohesive unit and may not be separated
except upon order of the court." Show me those.
MR. FRIZZELL: They're in digital form and in a hardTHE COURT: Well, how did the custodian give them
MR. FRIZZELL: They mailed us hard copies.
THE COURT: Okay. So
MR. FRIZZBLL: We put them in
THE COURT: --~ where is the hard copy with the
certificate on top? That's what I need.
MR. FRIZZELL: We do have those. They're not
physically in the courtroom. They could be here by ~
THE COURT: Okay. I'm not even addressing the
relevance objection and whether they'd be admitted for a
limited purpose, so
MR. FRIZZELL: The relevance objection, Judge, these
there's been testimony in this case Mr. Glenn represented
James Kinney, obviously Ginger Gutierrez and James are party
defendants in this case. These are trading records showing
them trading CMKM Diamonds stock, trading stock after opinion
letters have been issued by Mr. Glenn giving these defendants
the stock in this case. And there's -- from damages purpose
price, value, and it's part, as opposed to all of the
records. I -- Judge I have made a specific -- the reason you
only have a small part of this broken out, I announced to the
Court and I told the defendants that I --
THE COURT: 1 know. And you told me you selected a
portion of those records to use.