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KNU Appoints Delegation for Peace Talks

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What price DKBA ceasefire agreement?

DKBAs go-it-alone ceasefire deal weakens ethnic strength
Yawdserk offers assistance for peace in the Triangle

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KIA destroys Burma Army weapons train to Kachin State

China sends two weapon-laden trucks to Burma border
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KNU Appoints Delegation for Peace Talks

By THE IRRAWADDY Friday, November 11, 2011

Seven leading figures from the Karen National Union (KNU) will represent the Karen rebels in peace
talks with the Burmese government, according to sources close to the KNU.
The representatives are from both the political wing of the group and its armed wing, the Karen
National Liberation Army (KNLA). According a KNU official, the delegation will likely attend
negotiations with Burmese government officials within the next six weeks.
KNLA Brigade 5 troops march on Karen Martyrs Day
on Aug. 12, 2009. (Photo: Saw Yan Naing / The
Irrawaddy)

Representing the KNU are: Vice-chairman

David Takapaw; General-secretary
Zipporah Sein; the KNLA military chief,
Gen. Mutu Say Poe; the chairman of Pa-an
district, Aung Maung Aye; and central
committee members David Taw, Saw Ah
Toe and Saw Roger Khin.

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The delegation was appointed last week after a three-day emergency meeting of the KNU held in Papun
District in northern Karen State which was attended by KNU and KNLA leaders from seven districts
and seven brigades. The nominations were approved by 30 KNU central committee members and 15
sub-central committee members at the meeting.
As a preliminary step toward the negotiating table, Burma's President Thein Sein sent a delegation led
by Minister for Railways Aung Min in October to meet Karen rebel representatives at the Thai-Burmese
border. However, the KNU delegation rejected Aung Min as a state-level official, saying they would only
negotiate with someone from the central government in Naypyidaw.
On Nov. 3, a breakaway Karen rebel group, Democratic Karen Buddhist Army (DKBA) Brigade 5, which
is led by Brig-Gen Saw Lah Pwe, reached ceasefire agreement with Burmese officials in Karen State.
Brigade 5 is widely assumed to be allied with the KNLA.
Saw Lah Pwe said that his ceasefire agreement with Naypyidaw was a first step to peace throughout the
entire Karen State.
However, there are reports saying that the Burmese army has reinforced its troop strength in areas of
southern Burma where Karen rebels have been blocking construction of a road linking the Thai town of
Kanchanaburi with Tavoy, the site of a multi-billion dollar deep-sea port project being built by
Thailand's biggest construction company, Italian-Thai Development Coy.
http://www.irrawaddy.org/article.php?art_id=22439
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WhatpriceDKBAceasefireagreement?
November 11 | Author: Karen News

The ethnic people of Burma crave peace. In the recent years they have voiced their support for a
genuine political dialogue that will deliver long lasting peace for their people.
Ethnic people working for a wide variety of community
groups and canvassed by Karen News said the Burma
government has ignored calls by ethnic people for
unified peace talks with the United Nationalities
Federal Council (UNFC), an alliance of ethnic armed
groups.
Instead ethnic groups have criticized the government
for what they claim is a campaign to negotiate
individual ceasefire agreements as hastily arranged
quick-fix strategy to appease the international
community.
Ethnic community workers have expressed their
concern to Karen News that some factions of the ethnic
armed resistance may be enticed by Burmas military dominated government to sign ceasefire agreements
for short-term gains or their own personal profit that will sabotage a genuine long lasting peace agreement.
Saw Win (not his real name) works for a high profile community based organization and says.
The ethnic opposition groups should have learnt from their history. Individual ceasefires are useless, dont
they realize the Burma government is playing with them. Nakhanmways [aka Major General Saw Lah Pwe]
recent actions are not those of a Karen hero, hes let himself and his people down.
In recent months the ethnic opposition movements have shown a genuine desire to present a unified front. In
August this year the UNFC sent a letter to Burmas President Thein Sein outlining the alliances urgency for
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peace talk because six decades of fighting a civil war has saddled the country with political instability and
has turned resource-rich Burma into an economic basket case.
The Karen National Unions Vice President, Padoh David Thakabaw, an UNFC member, was reported
saying.
We [UNFC] want a dialogue along with our alliance, and then we will reach peace for the entire country.
We will not accept individual peace talks with State governments.
Professor Desmond Ball of the Strategic and Defence Studies Centre at the Australian National University in
Canberra said in an interview earlier this year warned that the military regime is expert at finding and
manipulating divisions in the ethnic resistance movement.
They find a crack, whether its religion, political or just greed and they massage it until theres a split. It is a
tactic that has worked on all the ethnic groups. For every non-ceasefire group theres at least one ceasefire
group.
Major General Saw Lah Pwe echoed Professor Balls warning and admitted at the time of his sacking of
Myawaddy, that in his time as leader of a militia aligned to and sponsored by the regime, he had learnt a
hard lesson about the importance of Karen unity.
We understand how they [regime] has divided and weakened us because we experienced it. Our blood now
talks racial unity we want and are ready for reunification [with the KNU].
http://karennews.org/2011/11/what-price-dkba-ceasefire-agreement.html/

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DKBAsgoitaloneceasefiredealweakensethnicstrength
November 10 | Author: Ehna

The Democratic Karen Buddhist Army (DKBA) has reached a

ceasefire agreement with the Burmese government following a day
of negotiations held recently in the Karen State capital of Hpa-an.
A spokesperson for the DKBA, Major San Aung spoke to Karen News
about the ceasefire.
The ceasefire has been reach between representatives of the DKBA
Klo Htoo Baw Brigade and the Burmese government in Hpa-an that the
Klo Htoo Baw Brigade and the Burma Army will stop fighting. It was
agreed the Burma Army would stop their offensive against the DKBA.
Major San Aung said both sides a agreed to set up a liaison office in the border town of Myawaddy.
Soldiers from both sides passing through one anothers territory will have to get prior permission. People
dont want fighting in their area so we agreed to a ceasefire.
The DKBAs Klo Htoo Baws (also known as Brigade 5), who are led by Brigadier General Saw Ler Pwe or
Na Ka Mwe, agreed to a ceasefire with the former military government.
A DKBA source said, for security reasons, Brigadier General Saw Ler Pwe did not actively take part in the
negotiations, but was represented by his six of his top military leaders..
The latest meeting was not the first time the two sides had met to settle for a ceasefire.
Brigadier General Saw Ler Pwe came to prominence and the attention of the international media when he
refused to bring his DKBA Brigade under the control of the Burma Army as a Border Guard Force militia.
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On 7th November last year Brigadier General Saw Ler Pwe laid siege to the Burmese border town of
Myawaddy. The Burma Army responsed and the resulting bombardment forced 20,000 people to take refuge
in neighboring Thailand.
At the time Brigadier General Saw Ler Pwe said.
We do this because the Burma army are not honest and we cannot put up with it anyone more. If they
shoot, we are ready to fight back.
From the battlefield, at the time Major General Saw Ler Pwe explained by phone to Karen News how he was
fighting on behalf of all of the ethnic people of Burma.
The regime oppresses all the ethnic people of Burma, he said. Our action today is the will of our people
they have wanted it for a long time.
Many Karen people have voiced their concerns at Major General Saw Ler Pwe latest actions and hope it is
not the restart of the Burma Army using Karen to fight Karen.
http://karennews.org/2011/11/dkba%E2%80%99s-go-it-alone-ceasefire-deal-weakens-ethnic-strength.html/

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YawdserkoffersassistanceforpeaceintheTriangle
Friday, 11 November 2011 12:54 S.H.A.N.
A month after the brutal killing of 13 Chinese crewmen took place in the Golden Triangle, where Burma,
Laos and Thailand meet, Lt-Gen Yawdserk, leader of the Shan State Army (SSA) South, that operates in
Shan State East, has offered to lend a hand in the long term solution of the maritime security issue on the
Mekong.
Security on the Mekong rests upon law and order in the three Triangle
countries, he told SHAN during a telephone interview. If one looks carefully, it
is not hard to find that the Burmese side is the weakest link due to instability since
Independence (in 1948).
Lt-Gen Yawdserk (Photo: S.H.A.N.)
The failure of successive Burmese rulers to honor the 1947 Panglong Agreement
which guarantees self rule, democracy and human rights and their refusal to back
off from the military solution, he said, had left no choice for the people of Shan State but to engage in an
armed struggle. What happened in the Golden Triangle (on 5 October) was the consequence of the resulting
anarchy, he explained.
President Thein Sein, the head of the new government, had called for peace talks with the armed movement
on 18 August 2011. So far it has achieved success with three of the groups: United Wa State Army (6
September), National Democratic Alliance Army (7 September) and Democratic Karen Buddhist Army (3
November).
It has however yet to meet the leaders of the SSA, whose troops are active in Mongyawng township, north of
the Golden Triangle.
Arrangements are still in process before the two sides meet, according to inside sources.
If both sides can reach a mutually acceptable political agreement, it will pave the way for end to anarchy in
the area, he predicted.

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China has bought 5 ships that will be refitted for the patrolling of the Mekong, according to Bangkok Post,
10 November issue, quoting a Chinese Ship-owners Association. Beijing however has said the plan needs to
be discussed with its downstream neighbors first.
http://www.shanland.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4190:yawdserkoffersassistance
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KIAdestroysBurmaArmyweaponstraintoKachinState
Published on Thursday, 10 November 2011 13:00 Written by KNG

Fighting place where Burmese Army weapons train was

destroyed by KIA.
The Kachin Independence Army (KIA) destroyed a
special weapons train for the Burmese Army on Thursday
before dawn heading for the Northern Regional Command
based in Myitkyina, the capital of Kachin State, said
eyewitnesses.

A five-compartment train loaded with weapons was

destroyed with bombs between Namti and Mayan stations
by the KIAs battalion 11 troops, said officers of the KIA battalion to the Kachin News Group.
There was a skirmish between the KIA troops and Burmese Army soldiers, escorting the weapons train,
added KIA officers.
The Burmese government mainly transports troops and weapons to its northern Kachin State by train and
ship.
Civil war is on in Kachin state for over five months now after the Burmese government launched a fresh
military offensive against the KIA on June 9.
http://www.kachinnews.com/photo-news/2146-kia-destroys-burma-army-weapons-train-to-kachin-state.html
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ChinasendstwoweaponladentruckstoBurmaborder
Published on Thursday, 10 November 2011 05:53 Written by KNG

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With the civil war in Northern Burma between the Burmese Army and Kachin Independence Army (KIA)
snowballing, China has secretly sent two weapon-laden trucks to the Burma border, said eyewitnesses.

The Chinese weapon-carrying trucks arrived on November 8 in Nhkum Yang village near the China-Burma
border, east of KIA headquarters Laiza, said eyewitnesses.
Local people said the weapons were dispatched for Burmese troops, who have currently launched a major
offensive against KIA strongholds near the two countries border.
Looking back at five decades of the KIAs revolution, China has never been known to support KIA
militarily or politically. Chinese leaders have never met KIA leaders.
Currently, over 6,000 Chinese combat troops are deployed along the Sino-Burma border.
http://www.kachinnews.com/photo-news/2145-china-sends-two-weapon-laden-trucks-to-burma-border.html

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ThreeKIAsoldiersunconsciousafterpoisongasattack
Published on Thursday, 10 November 2011 23:42 Written by KNG
KIA troops paraded at Laiza headquarters on
Revolution Day on February 5.
Three Kachin Independence Army (KIA) soldiers
were unconscious for half-a-day on Thursday
after being attacked with chemical weapons by
Burmese Army troops, said eyewitnesses.

The KIA soldiers were unconscious till 10 p.m.

from 10 a.m. Burma Standard Time after they
were attacked by an unidentified poison gas by
government troops, said KIA officers.
There was heavy fighting between the two sides on the KIA frontline post near Hpawmi Sa Ra from about
10 a.m. to 2 p.m. in NMawk (Momauk) Township in Manmaw (Bhamo) district in Kachin State, said local
people.
Villagers in the KIA-controlled area of Law Dan in the fighting zone said, over 50 Burmese soldiers were
killed and many were injured during the clashes with the KIA. The Burmese soldiers attacked the KIA with
chemical weapons.
There were no casualties among KIA soldiers. The unconscious KIA soldiers were brought from the
frontline after the fighting ended, said a KIA officer, not willing to be named.
The KIA post fell to the Burmese Army after they attacked it and their positions with heavy artillery, said
villagers of Law Dan.
According to KIA soldiers on the frontline, the red and white coloured smoke billowed after mortar shells
loaded with poison gas exploded.
Similarly, Burmese troops attacked the KIAs Battalion 15 troops with chemical weapons in Hpakawn in
Sang Gang near Taping (Dapein) Dam, where the government has started a new war with the KIA on June 9,
said KIA frontline sources.
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Many KIA soldiers on the frontline became unconsciousness, suffered from continuous vomiting and
extreme weakness, added KIA frontline sources.
KIA leaders in Laiza headquarters said Burmese soldiers are using chemical weapons because the ground
troops cannot overrun KIAs strong defense.
http://www.kachinnews.com/photo-news/2144-three-kia-soldiers-unconscious-after-poison-gas-attack.html
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KIOleadersorangeorcharddestroyedbyBurmeseArmy
Thursday, 10 November 2011 07:50 KNG News - Kachin News Group
Houses and huts in an orange orchard belonging to Lt-Gen Nban La Awng, Vice-President of the Kachin
Independence Organization (KIO), were burnt down on Tuesday evening by the Burmese Army, said
eyewitnesses.
Hundreds of acres of the orange plantation, along with non-commercial fish farms, are located near Awng Ja
Village near Ga Ra Yang Village on the Myitkyina-Manmaw (Bhamo) Road in Waingmaw Township, about
36 miles south of Myitkyina, the capital of Kachin State.
The arson was perpetrated by Burmese Army troops from the Light Infantry Division No. 88 based in
Magway, said KIA officers.
The Burmese Army soldiers also captured the Awng Ja post of KIAs Light Infantry Division No. 254 and
seized a 25mm machine gun, said eyewitnesses.
The KIA soldiers at the post withdrew after government troops resorted to indiscriminate shelling with
heavy artillery, added eyewitnesses.
Jubilant Burmese troops celebrated on Wednesday in Ga Ra Yang after they destroyed the KIO leaders
orchard and seized a machine gun, according to witnesses.
The Burmese government, led by former General Thein Sein, is currently sourcing troops from over 100
battalions for the offensive against the KIA in Kachin State and northern Shan State, even as it talks about
introducing democratic reforms in the country.
http://www.bnionline.net/index.php/news/kng/12058-kio-leaders-orange-orchard-destroyed-by-burmese-army.html

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Only questions submitted in Chin state parliament session

Posted by admin on Nov 11, 2011
During the second Chin state parliament assembly
session on November 8 and 9 in Hakha town, most
parliament members submitted only questions, said U
Kyaw Nyain, Minister of Mining and Forest.
Some members have gone to remote areas, so only four
parliament members could submit their proposals. The
proposal has to be submitted 10 days before the session.
Thats why some proposals could not be submitted but
20 questions were discussed at the session, he said.
Some members were asked to change their proposals into questions by the chairman of the state parliament.
The opposition parties also mentioned that they were informed about the time of the assembly session very
late and they did not get time to prepare.
In the assembly, U Robin, MP from Thantlang Township (CNP) submitted seven questions and of these,
some were related to the financial aid from India to Chin state and how to establish an environmental
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U Van Cin, MP from Rizua and Sabawngpi in Matupi Township (Ethnic Development Party) also submitted
questions about the motor road construction programme, how the government proposes to tackle poverty in
Chin state and when the authorities would be in a position to supply adequate electricity to Hakha town.
When all the answers to those questions were replied to by the concerned MPs, they said that when the state
budget is implemented they will construct link roads from one village to another in order to connect with the
main road in Chin state. An environmental committee has already been established not only at the state
level, but also the district and township level. Eight committees have already been formed to tackle poverty
in Chin state.
Besides, U Kyaw Nyain said that Kyat 25 million have been requested for the 2011-2012 state budget. In
this regard, We dont have taxable income, so we have to discuss that.
In Chin state, parliament session assemblies have been held four times this year, twice as regular assembly
and twice as special parliament assembly. Khonumthung news
http://khonumthung.org/?p=483

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WhatwillNovember18meanfortheNLD?
Friday, 11 November 2011 14:19 Salai Z. T. Lian
(Commentary) The possibility of the NLD re-registering as a legal political party is high when
about 106 members of the central committee of the National League for Democracy (NLD) from 13
states and regions will meet on November 18 in Rangoon to decide the issue.
How the new Burmese government treats Aung San Suu Kyi
and the NLD is a measure of how its move toward democracy is
progressing. Photo: Mizzima

Most young people in Burma will likely welcome

the NLD if it decides to re-register, but many older
Burmese might prefer the NLD to take a little bit
more time to monitor and evaluate the development
of Burmese politics under President Thein Seins
government.
The fact is that there is a gap between the Burmese young and old on how they view politics, and
how to deal with the government.
Regardless, the NLD needs to make policy and strategy changes since it no longer faces former
dictator Than Shwe, but rather a new generation that looks more moderate and flexible than their
previous boss. The NLD will choose the path that it believes is best on November 18.
The reason the government amended the Political Party Registration Law and the reason the NLD
is considering to re-register are likely related to the talks between President Thein Sein and Aung
San Suu Kyi on August 19, 2011.
There are interesting questions on how the NLD will go forward after November 18? Would it reregister as a lpolitical party and enter into elections, or would it decide not to re-register and watch
the development of Burmas politics, meanwhile focusing on humanitarian work? Its decision will
tell us how much trust there is between the NLD and new Burmese government.
The trust between Suu Kyi and President Thein Sein seems established after the two met on August
19. But they kept their talk confidential. There must be the reason to keep it confidential. Maybe,
they made a promise to change Burma or they shared sensitive information about changing Burma.
Or they agreed to meet again. Or they made a deal that promised to amend the political parties
registration laws in order for the NLD to re-register or run as a political party, or about releasing
political prisoners, and in return, Suu Kyi agreed not to encourage mass demonstrations, and to tell
international communities including Asean members, that Burma is changing positively.
Following their meeting, Suu Kyi credited President Thein Sein, saying she thinks he really wants
to bring positive changes to Burma. Also, the talks between Union Minister Aung Kyi and Suu Kyi
continued. Suu Kyi is allowed to communicate with international communities. She is also allowed
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to do her political activity without restrictions. Media censorship has relaxed somewhat. The
government granted amnesty to 6,359 prisoners including about 200 political prisoners recently.
Reportedly, the government will grant amnesty again soon.
The ethnic groups are watching carefully. And, theyre wondering if the NLD re-registered and
worked with Burmese government, how seriously would they work to solve ethnic issues?
The government knows what is needed to establish good relationships with international
communities such as the U.N., USA and Asean. They measure Burmas progress toward
democracy based on how it deals with Suu Kyis NLD party. Thats why the government started
talking to her.
Ex-major Sai Thein Win, who leaked information about Burmas nuclear work, said, The NLD
should re-register as a legal political party, and contest in the national Parliament. I didnt vote in
1990. Like me, there are many young people who didnt vote in 1990. The NLD should register as
a political party so that many people who didnt vote in the 1990 election can vote now.
The Burmese military will make sure former Snr-Gen Than Shwe and his family are safe and their
property is protected. There is a risk if their security and property are in danger that a military coup
could happen at any time because he can still influence the military.
Many Burmese including exiles are excited about what the NLD will decide on November 18. Most
Burmese people will likely continue to support the NLD whether it decides to re-register or not.
Suu Kyis party owns the hearts of the people in Burma.
The popularity of the NLD cannot be challenged politically. They will beat anyone as long as the
elections are fair and free. Even if they just work as a social organization or NGO; they will still
shake up Burmese politics.
But the NLD should enter the political battles at the Union, regional and local levels and not limit
its work to social activities, even though thats also a part of politics. Thats what November 18 will
mean for the NLD and for Burma.
http://mizzima.com/edop/commentary/6172-what-will-november-18-mean-for-the-nld.html

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