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Zvlebic ki fiqrobs saqarTveloze!

yovelTviuri damoukidebeli Jurnali #2 (24) ianvari

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saqarTveloSi prezidenti mSvidobianad ar Seicvleba, barak obama ki kenedis beds gaiziarebs (?!)

saqarTvelos arCevani politikur qar-texilebSi

, gv. 4-5

gv. 8-9

Tbilisurma kontrastebma cocxalia Tu 13 wlis nostalgia daCrdiles!

ara badri patarkaciSvili da raSi sWirdeboda sikvdilis inscenireba?!

gv. 10-11 gv. 7

miTxar Sendoba da Cems mxaresa, odes mouTxrob ambebs mwaresa, sTqvi, rom warwera ixile qvaze: `Zvlebic ki fiqrobs saqarTveloze!~
epitafia koki dadianis saflavze, levilis sasaflao

emigrantebi
(igavi)
tyeSi mumlis momravlebas veRaravin ver grZnobda, mxolod erTi kodala martod-marto ebrZoda. magram misi kakuni aRaravis esmoda, is ki ara, zogi qvebs da blis kurkebsac esroda. tye aravis adardebada, daxtunavdnen, ancobdnen, imis nacvlad, rom eSvelaT, gadawyvites, gaclodnen. iremma Tqva, mumli gaCnda, tyeSi raRa damrCenia? nekeric ki ver viSove, marto Reros narCenia. disSvilebi, ZmisSvilebi _ yvela Cemi sarCenia, tyes me mainc ver vuSveli, Zneli gadasarCenia. melam Tqva: qalaqSi waval, qaTmebis ferma yofila didi, iqve viqnebi, sorosTan axlos, rom aRaravin ar maxlos TiTi. vefxvma Tqva, riT var Senze naklebi? SenisTanebi bevri minaxavs! qalaqisaken gzas mec gavigneb da sanagveze Tavs Sevinaxav. daTuCam Cumad daibuzRuna: qveynad tye gana marto es ari? CemTvis Tbil bunags yvelgan moviwyob, erT zamTars kidev Tu moveswari. gugulma kaba sul daimokla, mkerdi mozida da ganacxada: _am tyeSi Cemi naocnebari aRar asrulda, aRar acxadda, ucxo mxareSi Turme eZeben, koxta, kekluc da lamaz gugulebs, Cemze ukeTess sad ipovian, waval da cotas waviguguneb. qori sxva tyeSi gadaixvewa, Jirafs daudga mojamagired. mgeli tramalebs gadaixvewa da balaxs Zovda xorcis magier. sxvebic wavidnen, mimoifantnen, zorgs TeTr bumbulze laqa moecxo, zogs SimSilisgan kuWi gauxma, zogs gaumarTla-kargad moewyo. gavida xani, bevri iq darCa, aRarc axsovdaT tye da mamuli, bevri dabrunda, rom moenatra Wala, mindvrebi gadanamuli. dabrundnen, magram tye sadRa iyo, kodala erT ylorts dahkankalebda. Ronemixdili, mSier-mwyurvali sicivisagan sul kankalebda. da rom Sexeda tyis Zvel binadarT, ucxo mxaridan dabrunebulebs, wamoimarTa, sityviT mimarTa, samSoblos xilviT gabruebulebs. _aha, xom gesmiT ucxo xmauri, gamravlebuli uricxvi mumlis, asea mudam, tye nadgurdeba, roca patroni mamuls ver uvlis. Tumca, ylortebi isev amova, mxolod SevignoT, tye rom Cvenia. unda viswavloT dacva da movla, sxva gza, ubralod, ar dagvrCenia.
nika wiklauri saberZneTi

`varskvlavTcvena~ erT ojaxSi

presidan albaT ukve SeityveT, rom cnobili telewamyvani Tamuna museriZe litvis proeqtidan, gadacema bednieri zaridan droebiT dagvemSvidoba da moulodnelad da Cumad gaTxovda. am faqtis gamavrcelebels yuradReba marto imaze ar gaumaxvilebia, rom Tamuna aseve cnobl dramers guram (gufi) makalaTias coli da Cveni Jurnalis mTavari redaqtoris, nino cxoiZis rZali gaxda. misi muli ki aseve cnobili tele-wamyvani, xatia siWinavaa (sterva, ninos disSvili). arc xelismomkideebi arian ucxoebi sazogadoebisaTvis. guros mejvare _ sandro nikolaZe nikol-Sous erT-erTi Zmaa, xolo Tamunas mejvare _ jeobareli sofo gordaZe gaxlavT. saocaria, erT ojaxSi amdeni varskvlavi?! :)
Cveni Jurnalis redkolegia ulocavs guros da Tamunas bednierebas. janmrTelobas, winsvlas da gamravlebas usurvebs!

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sarCevi
saqarTveloSi prezidenti mSvidobianad Tbilisel moswavleTa namuSevrebis ar Seicvleba, barak obama ki kenedis gamofenam xelisufalTa yuradRebac beds gaiziarebs (?!) ............................... 4-5 miipyro ................................................. 18 axali weli qarTul-evropuli `wminda andrias jvari~ saqarTvelodan variaciebiT ........................................... 6! saqarTveloSi ............................................ 19 Cvens Tanamemamuleebs... ........................ 6 tradiciuli kinofestivali BberlinSi TebervalSi gaimarTeba........................... 19 Tbilisurma kontrastebma 13 wlis nostalgia daCrdiles! ............................... 7 ra aris saWiro imisaTvis, rom fulma imuSaos CvenTvis da ara Cven saqarTvelos arCevani politikur qarfulisTvis?! .......................................... 20 texilebSi anu, mudmivi dilema cudsa da uaress Soris ............................... 8-9 icodeT Tqveni uflebebis Sesaxeb ...... 20 cocxalia Tu ara badri germaniaSi mivxvdi, rogor myvarebia patarkaciSvili da raSi sWirdeboda saqarTvelo! ............................................... 21 sikvdilis inscenireba?! ............ 10-11 zurikela vaSalomiZis Secvlili holandiis aeroportSi daRupul profesia guriasac waadgeba! ............ 22-23 emigrantTa xsovnas ................................ 12 fxizeli gonebiT msjeloba masiuri qarTvel invalidebs isev holandieli Trobis fonze ......................................... 24 qarTvelebi daexmarnen ............................ 12
27 ianvari wminda ninos miZinebis , dRea............................................................ 13

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ukrainelTa genocidis msxverplTa - panaSvidi TbilisSi ................................ 13 ............................................................26

, qarTveli eqimi, romelic peterburgSi pativiscemiT sargeblobs ................. 14-15 ? ................... 27-28

emigrantis werili. fuli xelis WuWyia, ............28 mTavari ojaxi da janmrTelobaa ........... 15
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rogor unda SevxvdeT 2009 wels? ... 16-17 ...................29

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saqarTveloSi prezidenti mSvidobianad ar Seicvleba,

barak obama ki kenedis beds gaiziarebs (?!)
msoflioSi ukve Semoabija axalma 2009 welma. Tumca, aRmosavluri kalendris mixedviT igi 26 ianvars 10:15 dadgeba da 13 Tebervlamde gastans. am dResac iseve unda SevxvdeT, rogorc 31 dekembers. dRevandel nomerSi waikiTxavT imis Sesaxeb, rogori iqneba es weli horoskopisa da zodiaqos niSnebisaTvis da rogor unda moemzadoT masTan Sesaxvedrad, rom weli warmatebuli da iRbliani iyos. magram albaT aranakleb sainteresoa imis gageba, ra elodeba am wels saqarTvelos da masTan dakavSirebul qveynebs. gTavazobT parafsiqologisa da winaswarmetyvelis ana lenormanis prognozs. misi TqmiT, marTalia xari simSvidiTa da stabilurobiT xasiaTdeba, magram gasaTvaliswinebelia isic, rom masze arasasiamovno zemoqmedeba gamaRizianeblad moqmedebs da mas araadekvaturi moqmedebisken ganawyobs. amdenad, misi provocirebis SemTxvevaSi xari saSiSi xdeba.
`wlis pirveli naxevari xSiri areulobiT, dapirispirebebiTa da gadatrialebiT xasiaTdeba. areuloba ianvarSive daiwyeba da gazafxulamde gamosvlebi iqneba. magram opoziciis aqciebs isev Zala daupirispirdeba. samwuxarod, amjerad xelisuflebis Secvla ise umtkivneulod ar moxdeba. iqneba SexlaSemoxlac. manam ki opoziciam xalxis ndobis aRsadgenad, mis Sekrebas da daSlas Tavi unda daanebos da taqtika Secvalos~-acxadebs ana lenormani. _ didi xania ismis amis Sesaxeb. magram situacia isev ucvleli rCeba. Tqveni azriT, am wels marTla Seicvleba rame? _ ara marto saqarTveloSia mosalodneli cvlilebebi, amerikasa da ruseTSic da sxva qveynebSic. magram am wels gansakuTrebiT saqarTvelos politikur sferoSi SeiniSneba gardatexa. es ki ZiriTadad saxelisuflebo eSelonebSi momxdar cvlilebas Seexeba. _ gindaT TqvaT, rom prezidenti Seicvleba? _ diax. me jer kidev 2000 wels vambobdi, rom SevardnaZe 2003 wlis bolos gadadgeboda.magram misi Semcvleli bevrs verafers gamoasworebda xalxis sakeTildReod da xalxis simpaTiebs male dakargavda. Tu gaxsovT maSin isic vTqvi, rom momavali prezidentis Semcvleli saqarTvelos politikaSi cnobili figura ar iyo da is Soridan movidoda. _ axla SegiZliaT TqvaT, vin iqneba? _ romc ar davakonkreto, mixvdebiT, radgan is orisami nabijiT ukve mosulia da isev amerikidan, rogorc maSin vvaraudobdi. saqarTvelos politikaSi did gavlenas ar flobda. magram garkveuli Sexedulebebi, dadebiTi kuTxiT, mis mimarT ukve arsebobs. mas SeuZlia situacia radikalurad Secvalos saqarTvelos sasargeblod. magram amisaTvis aucilebelia, opozicia gaerTiandes mis irgvliv. xalxi swored amas iTxovs. opoziciis ramdenime kandidaturis warmodgena xalxs abnevs da gamarjvebuli isev Zveli xelisufleba gamodis. amjerad arCevani mainc or kandidats Soris iqneba, qalsa da kacs vgulisxmob. _ rogorc Cans, burjanaZe-alasanias gulisxmobT... _ ... amaze axla xSirad saubroben. _ magram Tu alasania gaxdeba prezidenti, es imas ar niSnavs, rom isev amerikis kaci mova saTaveSi? maSin ra unda Seicvalos arsebuli viTarebidan? an teritoriebis dabrunebis imedi unda gvqondes? misi gvari saakaSvilTan asocirdeba mainc... _ alasania saakaSvilis naTesavi ar aris. miuxedavad imisa, rom dedis mogvarea. is afxazeTidanaa. misi moRvaweoba bevrad warmatebuli iqneba. es yvelaferi imazea damokidebuli, ra pozicias daiWers axali prezidenti. saqarTvelo RvTis mfarvelobiT ar gaiwireba. Tumca, amas ver vityviT amerikasa da evropaze. yvelgan stiqiuri ubedurebebia mosalodneli. saqarTvelo ki, marTlac, RmerTis wyalobiT, araerTxel gadarCeba. magram Tu gvinda vangas winaswarmetyvelebas Tavi davaRwioT da msoflio politikuri ruqidan ar gavqreT, yvela qveyanasTan, vinc angariSgasawevia (amerika iqneba es, ruseTi, Tu muslimanuri qveynebi), diplomatiuri urTierToba unda viqonioT. yuradReba ufro ekonomikur sakiTxebze da am mxriv problemebis mogvarebaze unda gamaxvildes da ara politikur dapirispirebaze. aseT SemTxvevaSi teritoriebsac davibrunebT da simSvidesac. Torem am wlidan moyolebuli 5 wlis manZilze daZabuloba da dapirispireba araerT qveyanaSi iqneba. maT Soris musulmanur da qristianul qveynebs Soris. _maSin ramdenad SesaZlebelia, aseTma patara qveyanam da Tanac geopolitikurad sainteresom, neitralitetis pirobebSi icxovros da romelime super-saxelmwifoze damokidebuli ar gaxdes? _Tu xelisufleba marTlac xalxis nebis gamoxatulebaze, mis keTildReobaze da qveynis winsvlaze izrunebs, diplomatiuri gziT, saerTaSoriso orga-

mkiTxvelis, romelic wlis bolos warmoadgens Jurnalis yvela nomers, qalbatoni ana lenormanisgan saaxalwlod, saCuqrad damcavi amuleti (Tilisma) gadaecema.
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ana lenormanis analitikuri prognozebi li wavides. amitom urCevnia, ruseTis mier politikur devnilad iqces. amiT isini erTmaneTs iyeneben. 2010 wels ki ruseTis prezidentad isev putini dabrundeba. _ am omsac xom ar hqonda aseTi datvirTva? opozicia amazec saubrobs. _ opoziciis gaZlierebis Semdeg Seiqmna saSiSroeba, rom mas gadayeneba emuqreboda. magram rogorc ki xalxi SekavSirda da gverdiT daudga, Tbilisis aRebis gegma Seicvala. _ mas Semdeg saaxalwlodac daiZaba situacia. amis gamo bevrma Cvenma Tanamemamulem, omis SiSiT saqarTveloSi Camosvlas Tavi aarida. xom ar aris mosalodneli saomari moqmedebebis ganaxleba? _ samwuxarod, isev cxinvalTan aris mosalodneli saomari moqmedebebi. isev sisxlisRvraa dagegmili. totalitaruli reJimi ise advilad ar daTmobs pozicias. xalxis gamosvlebi da opoziciis mRelvarebis CaxSobac mosalodnelia. jaris gaZliereba, axalaiebi da misTanebi, mas amisTvis sWirdeba da ara teritoriebis dasabruneblad. ekonomikuri krizisi saqarTvelosac elodeba. martis Tvidan dolari kvlav gaZvirdeba. laris gaufasureba ki inflacias gamoiwvevs. _ is prezidenti, romelic saakaSvilis Semdeg mova, didxans darCeba xelisuflebaSi? _ ara. magram garkveuli wlebi mainc iqneba. oRond xuTwlian vadas ver daasrulebs. is Tavad moindomebs wasvlas. is prezidentobis msurveli ar aris, ubralod, am etapze misi mosvlaa saWiro. amis Semdeg ki saqarTvelos prezidenti qali gaxdeba. magram ori qalis kandidatura iqneba. erTi prodasavluri orientaciisa da meore_prorusuli. amitom saqarTvelos mosaxleoba pirvels dauWers mxars. _ burjanaZes da zurabiSvils gulisxmobT? _ diax. xalxs sul rom ar undodes, burjanaZesTan SedarebiT, mainc zurabiSvils airCevs. swored amis Semdgom damyardeba neitraliteti. amas moyveba meti simSvide da stabiluroba. radgan matriarqati iqneba. qalis faqtori xom dedasTan da saTnoebasTan, mandilTanaa dakavSirebuli. mamakacebi ufro agresiulebi arian da emociebs ver Tokaven. swored salome zurabiSvilis diplomatiuri gamocdileba, ucxoeTis qveynebTan urTierToba da samSoblosadmi damokidebuleba ganapirobebs mis warmatebebs. magram manam 4 weli mainc gava. manam zurabiSvils alasania sagareo saqmeTa ministrad daabrunebs. am etapze mxolod alasanias aqvs Sansi, gayves xalxi da Secvalos viTareba ukeTesobisaken. Tumca, rogorc aRvniSne, es umtkivneulod ar moxdeba. amitom, aucilebelia opoziciam SekavSireba da xalxis ndobis mopoveba SeZlos, qveynis gadarCenaze izrunos da ara sakuTari mdgomareobis saTavisod gamoyenebaze. am SemTxvevaSi qveyana gadarCeba. nino cxoiZe

nizaciebis daxmarebiT da ekonomikuri kavSirebis gafarToebiT es SesaZlebeli iqneba. aseTi politikiT qveyanas mTavrobisa da xelisuflebis swraf cvlasac avaridebT. Tu am wels moxerxdeba prezidentis Secvla ufro diplomatiurad momqmedi pirovnebiT, rogorc es mosalodnelia, maSin ufro male movaxerxebT ekonomikur winsvlas, tranzitis Semosavlianobis gazrdas da RmerTi im bunebrivi resursebis gamoyenebis saSualebasac mogvcems, rac Cvens qveyanaSi sabadoebis saxiT arsebobs. maSin SeiZleba Sveicariasac SevedaroT. es ki prezidentis poziciazea damokidebuli. iranze dartma da ucxo qveynebis bazebis amisaTvis gamoyeneba ar unda dauSvas man. dRes yvelas skami da gamdidreba ainteresebs. es qveyanas winsvlas ar moutans. axalma prezidentmac unda gaiTvaliswinos es. sulerTia, amas vin gaakeTebs. is RmerTis rCeuli iqneba. pirovnulad aravis vebrZviT. mTavaria, xalxis da qveynis sakeTidReod gamoiyenos diplomatiuri urTierTobebi. sxva mxriv simSvides ver movipovebT. _ mainc prezidentis institutis SenarCunebaze mianiSnebT? _ jer Cveni qveyana arc saparlamento da arc monarqistuli wyobisTvis mzad ar aris. bevrad ukan davixieT. amitom amas albaT ukve erTi aTwleuli ar eyofa. 25 weli mainc daWirdeba mentalitetis Secvlas. garda amisa, axlandeli moCvenebiTi ekonomikuri winsvla da stabiluroba, gazis da eleqtroenergiis uwyveti mowodeba, did problemad gadagveqceva. axla biujetis SevsebiT da am Tanxebis gadafarviT ise TvalSi sacemi ar Cans. magram male viTareba gamoaSkaravdeba da gazis da Suqis problemac dagvidgeba. _ rac Seexeba amerikis SeerTebul Statebs da ruseTs? iq ra cvlilebebia mosalodneli? _ gansakuTrebiT tragikuli iqneba cvlilebebi amerikaSi. barak obamas gaprezidentebiT Savkanianebis mdgomareoba gansakuTrebiT Seicvleba. mogexsenebaT, igi arc kaTilikea da arc protestanti. ufro maias tomis warmomadgenelia da miuxedavad imisa, rom civilizebul samyaroSi cxovrobs, Savi magia mZvinvarebs amerikaSi. isic ar aris umniSvnelo faqti, rom obamas bebia afrikeli mCxibavia. Tu adre zangebi rasizmis msxverplni iyvnen, axla piriqiT moxdeba da TeTrkanianebTan dapirispireba ise gamwvavdeba, rom sabolood feradkaniani prezidentis ganadgurebiT dasruldeba. igi kenedis beds gaiziarebs. amerikis prezidenti qali gaxdeba. ra Tqma unda, es yofili pirveli ledi, hilari qlintoni iqneba. misi ojaxis keTilganwyoba saqarTvelosadmi Cvens qveyanasac waadgeba. rac Seexeba ruseTs, krizisi kidev gaRrmavdeba. putinisa da medvedevis tandemi saakaSvilis gadayenebamde gagrZeldeba. manam mas saakaSvili Tavisi gegmebis gamosayeneblad, teritoriebis misaTviseblad sWirdeba. samagierod, saakaSvili putinis daxmarebiT ganawyenebuli xalxis Semokrebasac axerxebs. saakaSvils ar surs xelisuflebidan sakuTari xalxis mier gandevni-

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xma warsulidan

axali weli qarTulevropuli variaciebiT!

miuxedavad yvelafrisa, rac am bolo wels gadavitaneT... kalendaruli kanonzomiereba ar darRveula da daniSnul dros movida axali weli. Tumca, manam bevri ucnauri da arakanonzomieri ram moxda. yvelaze metad dasamaxsovrebeli mainc ori arCevnebis Sedegebi iyo da avadmosagonari ruseT-saqarTvelos Soris ganviTarebuli daZabulobis kulminacia, rac saSineli omiTa da saqarTvelosaTvis teritoriebis ufro meti wilis okupacia-dakargviT dasrulda. magram aravin icis, dasrulda Tu ara es saSiSi procesi, an rodis ganaxldeba. amis Sesaxeb saqarTvelos da ruseTis xelisufalni `saaxalwlo dapirebebSic~ xSirad gvaxsenebdnen. marTalia, medmvedevma `aRiara~, rom omi daiwyo, magram isic ar daumalavs, rom es mas Semdeg gaxda misi mxridan aucilebeli da arasaWoWmano nabiji, roca qarTulma SenaerTebma cxinvali aiRes da mSvidobian mosaxleobasTan erTad mSvidobismyofelebic daiRupnen. medvedevma isic Tqva, rom igi didi xani emzadeboda am omisaTvis, radgan icoda, saqarTvelo am agresias apirebda. marTalia, qarTul mediaSi ZiriTadad mxolod medvedevis `aRiarebis~ nawili gaJRerda, danarCeni ki `damontaJebul~ masalaSi daikarga. magram internet-gamocemebs ar gamorCeniaT misi sityvebi. axla axali weli movida da ra dros xelisufalTa kritikaao, gamiwyreba zogierTi mkiTxveli. amitomac am Temaze mets aRar gavagrZeleb. rac ar unda xdebodes qveyanaSi, saaxalwlo ganwyobileba mainc mniSvnelovania. oRond amis gancda marto mTavrobis wevrTa buxrebSi agizgizebulma cecxlma da sufraze dawyobilma mdidrulma sufram ki ara, pensionerTa mier momzadebulma gozinayma, indauris sacivma da Semwvarma goWmac unda Seqmnas. Tu xalxiT gadatenil saxeldaxelo bazrobebze gavla mogixdaT (sadRaa `dezertirebis~, `diRmis~ an `gadaxuruli kolmeurneobis bazari~...) da fexebi ar daimtvrieT, mixvdebiT, rom zemoTCamoTvlili sufris gawyoba 80 lariani pensiiT SeuZlebelia. goWis fasi minimum 100 lars Seadgenda, indaurisa ki 40-dan 60-mde meryeobda. kilogrami nigozi 17-22 lari Rirda, Sampaniuris yidva ki minimum 7 larad SegeZloT. ratomRac, dangreul riyeze wels uSvelebeli qvabebi ar mouzidavT, rom xalxs TefSebiTa da TasebiT kvlavac gadaeTelaT erTmaneTi. amitomac saciviT aravis gaumarTavs wuwaoba. samagierod, sarkozis SeSurdeba ise anaTebs Cveni satelevizio anza da ara marto rusTavelis gamziri. Tovlis babuamac gaCaxCaxebul respublikis moedanze daido bina da bavSvebs saCuqrebi dauriga. Tumca, bavSvebma ara da, Tineijerebma ki moaxerxes `garToba~. yvelas rom am bavSvebiviT gvjerodes Tovlis babuis, Tu saaxalwlo dapirebebis, amdeni ukmayofilo saxeebi namdvilad ar iqnebodnen Tbilisis quCebSi. ise, santaklausebi arc wels gvaklda da Tu saSualeba gaqvT, ojaxSic SegeZloT mopatiJeba. da mainc, imedi da rwmena nu mogveSalos imisa, rom RmerTi ar gaswiravs da RvTismSoblis kalTa daicavs am mravalWir-varam gadatanil qveyanas, mis erTgul xalxs da saaxalwlo survilebTan erTad, winasaarCevno danapirebsac Seusrulebs!.. mraval axal wels gilocavT Cveno Tanamemamuleebo, Sin da gareT! saqarTveloSi, Tu ucxoeTSi Seqmnil patara saqarTveloebSi qarTuli sufra da mravalJamieri nu mogSlodeT!. RmerTma gagaZlieroT da male mSvidobiT dagabrunoT samSobloSi! nino cxoiZe Jurnal `emigrantebis~ mTavari redaqtori
P.S. magram, vidre Cveni Jurnali aiwyoboda, qalbaton ana lenormanis winaswarmetyveleba axda. mis interviuSi naTqvamia, rom ianvridan areuloba daiwyeba. gazafxulze ki daZabuloba gamwvavdeba da kidev bevri arasasiamovno prognozia. RmerTma qnas, mSvidobianad gvecxovros am wels mainc!

Cvens Tanamemamuleebs...

samSoblos moSorebulo Cveno Zmebo da debo! vin icis, rogor moxda, rom moswydiT dedasaqarTvelos da aRmoCndiT ucxo mxares. vin icis, ramdeni cremli dagiRvriaT Tqven da Tqvens mama-papaT ucxo qveyanaSi moxvedris gamo. Sorsa xarT Cvengan da ver gvawvdenT xmas, verc Cveni gulisTqma aRwevs Tqvenamde. cxadia, es yvelas gvawuxebs. RviZli Zmebisa da debis gayra da erTmaneTisagan daSoreba metad Znelia. Cveno Tanamemamuleno! Cveni fiqri da saerTo sazrunavi erTia: - ar daiviwyoT deda-ena, Cveni tkbili qarTuli. es ena saamayo enaa, romelzec mexuTe saukunidan mogvepoveba mwerloba, romelzec daiwera saqveynod ganTqmuli ,,vefxistyaosani da bevri sxva mSvenieri Txzuleba. ecadeT, yovelmxriv ecadeT, ar daiviwyoT qarTuli ena da qarTuli werakiTxva! akaki SaniZe akademikosi, Tbilisis universitetis erT-erTi damaarsebeli.

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stumrad samSobloSi

Tbilisurma kontrastebma 13 wlis nostalgia daCrdiles!

xali wlis wina dReebSi evropidan momaval reisebs bevri Cveni Tanamemamule Camohyva. zogi cota xniT iyo ucxo qveyanaSi wasuli. zogs tradiciad aqvs, axal wels samSobloSi da mSobliur garemoSi Sexvdes. miunxenis reisiT Camosul mgzavrebs Soris ki gansakuTrebuli sameuli iyo. qarTveli deda, naxevrad iranel SvilebTan erTad. mimozas TiTqmis 13 welia samSoblo ar unaxavs. mis ufros vaJs, 14 wlis qardoxas, romelic iranSi daibada (6 Tvisa Camoiyvanes pirvelad saqarTveloSi da ramdenime TveSi waiyvanes germaniaSi), araferi axsovs qarTuli. umcros vaJs, 10 wlis qardans ki warmodgenac ara aqvs, sad Camovida. mxolod is icis, rom deda qarTveli hyavs da germaniaSi mcxovrebi misi qarTveli megobrebi, an naTesavebi rom modian saxlSi, misTvis gaugebar enaze laparakoben. mxolod moferebas da sayvedurebs ismenen bavSvebi maTi misamarTiT da xvdebian, rodis ra ganwyoba aqvs dedis sityvebs. kidev ramdenime sityva daamaxsovrdaT biWebs am 1014 wlis manZilze. magram gamoyenebas ver axerxebdnen. Tbilisis aeroportSi dasaxvedrad mimozas deda, daZma da biZaSvil-mamidaSvilebi movidnen. igi amden xalxs arc elodeba da bargis gamotanisas dayovnda. ...amasobaSi mousvenari qardana marto gamodis mosacdel darbazSi da damxdurebSi nacnob saxeebs poulobs. germaniaSi masTan stumrad Casul dedis naTesavebs exveva da gaocebuli ucqeris bebiasa da deidas, romlebic sxva naTesavebis msgavsad, eferebian da Tvalebidan cremlebs iwmenden. `Sen genacvalos Seni bebo. ramxela SviliSvilebi myavs da baRnebi arc minaxavs amdeni xania!~_ ambobs nunu bebo. Tumca, arc ise asakovania. igi mxolod 53 wlisaa. afxazeTidan ltolvilobis Semdeg kopitnarSi saxlobs da ufrosi qaliSvili mecamete welia ar unaxavs. arc Tamunas unaxavs pataraobis mere ufrosi da, romelic mis qorwilSic ver Camovida. ojaxis wevrebidan masTan germaniaSi mxolod Zma iyo ramdenime wlis win da mamidaSvili qmarTan erTad. mimoza ufros vaJiSvilTan erTad gamodis aeroportis mosacdelSi da pirvel rigSi mis umcross eZebs. mis irgvliv Semoxveul amden acremlebul naTesavs rom xedavs, dabneuli ambobs: `me ukve TviTmfrinavSi davicale emociebisgan. Tbiliss rom gadmovxede guli kinaRam gamiskda!~ mere qardanac germanulis mcodne dedis mamidaSvilebs uCoCdeba da ambobs: `dedam TviTmfrinavSi bevri itira. esenic ratom tirian?~ mas auxsnes, rom didi xania ar unaxavT erTmaneTi da emociac aman gamoiwvia. naTesavebis mokiTxvis Semdeg, rogorc iqna damxdurebic da Camosulebic manqanebSi Casxdnen. bavSvebi xangrZlivi mgzavrobiT daqanculebi iyvnen. magram mainc yvelaferi ainteresebdaT saqarTvelos Sesaxeb. Soridan televiziis anZa gamoCnda. bavSvebma maSinve SeniSnes da gaioces, rom ase mTeli Rame eifelic ar anaTebs. mimozam da bavSvebma saxlSi misvla ar isurves da mamidaSvilebTan erTad qalaqisaken gaemarTnen. deda-Svilebi aSkarad aRfrTovandnen ganaTebuli, sadResaswaulod morTuli quCebiT. mimoza mudmivad raRacas kiTxulobda. sad ra axsovda da axla im adgilas ra iyo. Tu Zvels aRmoaCenda, aRtacebuli wamoiZaxebda `vaime, ra kaia!!!~ amasobaSi gaTenda. gzaSi xaSi da xinkali axsenes. gaCnda idea, sauzme Zveli ubnis romelime restoranSi mierTvaT. mimozas yvelaferi moewona:xaWapuri, xinkali, xaSi. magram qardoxas germaniaSi, dedis megobris, natos gamomcxvari xaWapuris gemo ufro mosawonad eCvena. miCveulia bavSvi iseTs da ra qnas? kargad rom gaTenda germaniidan Camosul stumrebs

gawyobil sufrasTan momlodine ojaxis wevrebi gaaxsendaT. axla qeifi axloblebis wreSi gagrZelda?! meore dResve deda _ SvilebiT quTaisisaken gaaqanes da erTi kvira naTesavebTan stumrobas ver morCnen. yvelaze didxans bebiasTan mouwiaT yofna. umcrosi SviliSvilis germanul daZaxils `omi~, anu bebo, nunu bebo gakvirvebiT pasuxobda: `kide omi gvinda, Svilo?!~... mere naTesavebic moiares quTaissa da foTSi da mimozas mamisa da biZis saflavebic. marto aCigvara ver naxes, sadac mimozam dauviwyari bavSvoba gaatara. TbilisSi rom dabrundnen, bavSvebi ukve misalmebas da mokiTxvas qarTulad cdilobdnen da uamrav kiTxvebs svavdnen: Tbilisi mdidari qalaqia, naTesavebTan ki iseTi sacxovrebeli pirobebi ratom ar aris, rogoric germaniSia? amdeni manqana uwesrigod ratom moZraobs? ratom

aris amdeni dangreuli saxli TbilisSi? gogoebi ratom dadian maRalqusliani fexsacmelebi? .. erTi sityviT, TiTqmis 13 wlis unaxav samSobloSi Camosul mimoza vaSaymaZesac sadardeblad gahyva is, rom saqarTvelo kontrastebis qveyanad qceula. TiTqmis yela ubani da quCa moiara, rac axalgazrdobidan axsovda, an vinme misi axlobeli cxovrobda adre. erTmaneTs cvlida TvalismomWreli naTurebis elvareba da Cabnelebuli adgilebi, gatkicinebuli asfalti da amoCiCqnili, ormoiani quCebi. binebi, sadac mxolod erTi oTaxi Tbeba da yvela im erT oTaxSia SeyuJuli. axali wlis Rames Tavisuflebis moedanze Sexvdnen da iqac gaocdnen. erT mxares koncerti da mxiaruleba iyo, meore mxares ki moxuci bebo sacodavad mwesumziras hyidda. gemraniaSi gacrdili bavSvebisaTvis gaugebari iyo, ratom muSaobda es bebo axal wels. mimozac dardobda imas, rom yvela axlobels problemebi aqvs da gamosavals qveynidan gaqcevaSi xedaven. `cudi dro SearCie Camosasvlelad. zafxulSi ukeT dagxvdebiT da sicivis problemac ar gveqneboda~_eubnebodnen mimozas naTesavebi. mas ki yvelasTan erTi pasuxi hqonda: am xnis manZilze mxolod axla mieca mSobliur qveyanaSi Camosvlis uflebac da saSualebac. amitomac zafxulis mosvlas ver daeloda. Tumca, misTvisac Zneli warmosadgenia, ra Wkuaze dadgeba igi zafxulamde da rodis, an ramdeni xniT Camosvla kidev. erTi ki faqtia, miuxedavad didi emociisa, mimis saxli moenatra da undoda, bileTis ricxvi Seecvala, rom male dabrunebuliyo germaniaSi! inga goqaZe studia `meridiani~

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anu, mudmivi dilema cudsa da uaress Soris

mesame saukunea, rac cvalebadi simZafriTa da ucvleli aqtualobiT kvlav ismis kiTxva: saqarTvelo ruseTTan Tu dasavleTTan? (dasavleTSi xan aSS, xan evropa moiazreba, xanac, orive erTad). zogjer es kiTxva damokles maxvils emsgavseboda, zogjerac, TviT kiTxvis arseboba da SesaZlo sasurveli pasuxi imdenad utopiuri Canda, rom RimilTan erTad SiSsac ki badebda. saocaria, magram saukuneebis manZilze ganvlilma gzam bevri veraferi gvaswavla. vis ra zianis motana SeuZlia dRemde gauTvlelia da swored amitom, xan CrdiloeTidan amomaval mzes vegebebiT da xanac, dasavleTidan monaberi tkbilsurnelebiT vibruebT Tavs. mainc, ra arCevani gaakeTa erekle mefem imisTana, rom verc xelaRebiT gaumtyunebiaT da arc bolomde misi mowoneba gadauwyvetiaT saqarTveloSi?.. mefe erekles Zegli rom daudgamT TelavSi, viRacas amgvarad auxsnia avtoris Canafiqri: cxenis gava sparseTs uyurebs, piri ki CrdiloeTso da amis dasturad, cxenis kudis konturiT mimsgavsebuli, sparsulisaTvis damaxasiaTebeli profili miuCneviaT, exla rom vfiqrob, ase mgonia, ukanaliT cxeni saqarTvelos daudga, xolo mzera ki dResac gaurkveveli mimarTulebiT aqvs mipyrobili. zogi Semedaveba, rad unda amas amdeni sjabaasi, Cven xom evropelebi, Tanac pirveli evropelebi varT da exla Cvens sawyisebs vubrundebiTo. zogisTvis mxolod aSSs politikaa misaRebi da verafriT gamosula im kulturuli eiforiidan, `perestroikis~ saxeliT rom gvaziares da bebiis gamomcxvari, tkbili kverebiviT Camogviriges Tavisuflebis molodinSi atuzul ssrks respublikelebs. ise, rasac bolo TxuTmeti wlis manZilze moveswariT, sad iocnebebda amaze `patara kaxi~, anda sulxansaba, romelsac ar daezara da fexdafex moiara evropa, magram amaod; didad aravin Sewuxebula uZvelesi qristianuli kulturisa da civilizaciis mqone saqarTvelos bediT, islamur samyarosTan buferis rols rom usrulebda evropas. pirvelad, swored imxanad dagvemsxvra iluziebi. arc gasuli saukunis 20ian wlebSi gamouCeniaT gansakuTrebuli interesi beber britaneTsa da germanias. sakuTari interesebi Cvens samSobloSi maT manam axsovdaT, vidre ruseTi Tavis ambiciebs daufaravad gaamJRavnebda. xoda, moxda is, rac moxda xmeleTis erT meeqvsedze da saqarTvelo didi, wiTeli saxelmwifos patara, magram `TeTri yvaviliT~ gamorCeuli respublika gaxda. Cemi qveynis mier TxuTmeti wlis win gadadgmuli nabiji ki CemTvis dRemde gamocanad rCeba, radgan verafriT gamabrua damoukideblobis bangma. albaT imitom, rom am xnis manZilze Tavisufali saqarTvelos verc erTi xelisuflebis mxridan, vera da ver davinaxe Tavisufali azrovneba da damoukideblad gadadgmuli nabiji. arada, es is nabijebia, rom ar gindodes danaxva, igrZnob mainc gumaniT. erTi SexedviT, marTlac paradoqsia, roca nanatri Tavisuflebis pirobebSi, Tavisufali azris deficitma saqarTveloSi, qarTvelica da gadamTielic gaaoca. gagikvirdebaT, magram es im qveyanaSi xdeba, sadac `hasanbegura~ da `Cakrulo~ daibada. CvenSi pirveli xma cas rom swvdeba, am dros sxva danarCeni xmebi Tavisuflebisa da improvizaciis virtuozul nimuSebs qmnian. xoda midis niWis, gemovnebisa da siyvarulis zRapruli Sejibri, rasac raoden gasakviric unda iyos, sulis Tavisufleba, Tavnebobamde misuli Tavisufleba, udevs safuZvlad. swored es silaRe, Tavqudmoglejili niWiereba da xalisi aklia Cemi qveynis bolo TxuTmet wels Tavisuflebis TxuTmet weliwads... bevrs vfiqrob yovelive amaze da ara mgonia, didad gamovirCeode Cems TanamedroveTagan. safiqrali xom Cvenma Soreulma Tu axlo winaprebma, mravlad dagvitoves. mainc ra moxda, ratom ver gavamarTleT Tavisuflebis idea ise, rogori molodinic gvqonda? ratom ver vivargeT? ratom ar gavTvaleT arc Cveni da arc, sxvisi Secdomebi? iqneb zomaze mets viTxovT da qarTvelTa bunebis maxasiaTebeli maqsimalizmi, aqac erTi ukiduresobidan meoreSi gvagdebs? davijero, marTla ar viyaviT Tavisuflebis Rirsni? nuTu, marTla vinmes Ceqma, an muSti unda gvakontrolebdes, rom maSin SevigrZnoT mamuli da misi siyvaruli mTeli sisavsiT? albaT viRac, Tundac moCvenebiT, unda gvCagravdes, rom SevqmnaT Sedevrebi literaturaSi, TeatrSi, kinoSi, axali aRmoCenebi vakeToT mecnierebaSi da msoflio rekordebi vamyaroT sportis saxeobebSi. davijero, ase rTulia am erTi cida, kopwia qveynis mowyoba? erTi ukiduresobidan meoreSi gadavardnis Cveni didi niWi aRvniSne... adre Tu TviTmyofadobis gadarCenas vcdilobdiT da gveSinoda, mravalricxovan da Zlier ruseTs ar SevesruteT, exla misi adgili sxva, aranakleb Zlierma saxelmwifom daikava Sesrutvisa da waSlis aranaklebi albaTobiT. SeuZlebelia, ar gavixsenoT, rom saqarTvelo, Tavisi kulturiTa da Tavmosawoni, gamorCeuli TviTmyofadobiT imitomac fasobda, rom evropisa da aziis gzasayarze, manamde ararsebuli, unikaluri sinTezi Seqmna. gana am sinTezisa da evropa-aziis harmoniuli Serwymis magaliTi ar aris me-19 saukunis Tbilisi Tavisi arqiteqturiT, kostiumebiT, cxovrebis wesiTa da mentalobiT, literaturuli salonebiT, TeatrebiT, zurna-dudukiTa da abanoTubniT? yovelive amis dasanergad piar-aqciebis Catareba, anda xmamaRali deklarireba aravis mosvlia azrad, yovelive TavisTavad, bunebrivad xdeboda da amitomac

saqarTvelos arCevani politikur qartexilebSi

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istoriuli paralelebi arc ruseTisTvis gamodga ioli, uzarmazari `derJavis~ namsxvrevebqveS moyola, xelis mocarva da erT mSvenier dRes, yvela `Zmuri~ respublikis codvebSi, mxolod ruseTis dadanaSauleba. saqarTveloSi ki, dResac trialebs mTavari pasuxgaucemeli kiTxva ratom gagvwirao ruseTma qarTvelebi? aqve uzustesi qronologiiT gairbens Cvens Tvalwin 9 aprilidan moyolebuli, cxinvalisa da afxazeTis sisxliani kadrebis retrospeqtiva. vin daTvlis orive mxridan daSvebul Secdomebs? anda, aqvs ki Secdomebis Tvlasa da gaborotebas raime azri? Cvenc xom davakeliT fiqri da Cvens nafiqrals siRrme amis aRiareba gviWirs. arada, iqneb vinmes hgonia, ruseTze naklebi ambicia romelime sxva mezobel, Tundac megobar qveyanas gaaCnia? iqneb vinmes sjera, rom am saxelmwifoTa liderebi dRe da Rame imis fiqrSi arian, Tu rogor gaamTlianon da gaaZlieron saqarTvelo da ganviTarebadi qveynis (CemTvis, da ara marto CemTvis, samarcxvino, mesame samyaros qveynis), statusidan, mowinave da ganviTarebul qveynebSi gadaaskupon. saxelmwifoebriobasa da srulfasovani eris statusze pretenzia Tu gvaqvs, keTili vineboT da TviTon gamovnaxoT saerTo Crdiloel mezobelTan, romelTanac salaparako ena, xasiaTi, misasvleli gzebi da rac mTavaria, adamianuri urTierTobebi da siyvaruli, iseve, rogorc brazi, jerac ar gamqrala. gana vinmes epareba eWvi imaSi, rom orive konfliqtis gadaWris gasaRebi, swored moskovSia da, rom, swored Zlieri mezoblis sruli ugulebelyofisa da ignorirebisaTvis visjebiT? Tu ar vcdebi, Cveni megobari dasavleTis saxelmwifoebi sul raRac TxuTmetiode welia, rac gvexmarebian da am xnis manZilze yvela sferoSi, saxelmwifo manqanis yvela WanWikSi maTi interesi, ambicia da pretenzia Cans. amis Semdeg ki, ara mgonia Zneli warmosadgeni iyos oraswliani urTierTobis Semdeg, ruseTis interesebis ignorirebis Sedegebi. ase mgonia, yvelas erTbaSad dagvaviwyda `xuTkunWulaca~ da `nacarqeqiac~. Cveni winapari ase gauazreblad rom Sebmoda Zlier da gavlenian mezobels, dRes `disqaveris~ ekranidan `wiTel wignSi~ Seyvanili, ramdenime enablu qarTveli Tu gagviRimebda sawyaloblad. maS ra gvemarTeba? iqneb droa, ruseTis interesebi Cvens interesebs davamTxvioT? dasakargi dro aRar gvaqvs, nu movityuebT Tavs, TiTqos Cvens gamo vinme ecdeba Cveni Crdiloeli mezoblis ganawyenebas. mjera, rom Cvens garda veravin gaalRobs yinuls, ruseTTan misasvleli gzebic Cveni gasavlelia mxolod, Torem vSiSob, Statebica da evropis wamyvani qveynebic, erTad, tradiciulad Cvens gareSe gadawyveten patara, magram ambiciuri saqarTvelos beds da vin icis, saTavisod ris daTmobas mogvTxoven. qeTi boxua noemberi 2005 w.

asaxavs qarTvelis xasiaTs, amitomac aris aserigad faseuli da namdvili, swored amitom ver moxerxda misi waSla da gadaSeneba dRemde. arada, am dros Cven ukve viyaviT ruseTis imperiis nawili da raoden uaryofiTi muxtis matarebeli politikuri nabiji, an kerZo epizodi unda gavixsenoT, versad wauvalT im faqts, rom erekles droindeli qveynis eqvsasiaTasiani mosaxleoba swored am dros gamravlda da gaZlierda. gavixsenoT, rom swored ruseTis imdroindeli imperiidan daedo saTave evropul kulturasa da ganaTlebasnaziareb dargebs, romelTac Semdgomi ganviTareba, ukve komunisturi imperiis pirobebSi elodaT. ruseTis uzarmazar imperiaSi mosalodneli aneqsiiTa da umkacresi reJimiT daabotebda komunizmis aCrdili. im sisxlian kataklizmebs Zlieri, msoflios Zilisa da mosvenebis damafrTxobeli sabWoTa kavSiris Seqmna mohyva. udavod angariSgasawevi axalgazrda saxelmwifo, TviTon aravis uTmobda da albaT amanac ganapiroba danarCeni msoflios ganviTarebuli nawilis Semdgomi strategia da taqtika radac unda dasjdomodaT, daengriaT `wiTeli urCxuli~, romelic 80iani wlebis dasawyisSi, ukve `urCxulis~ parodia ufro iyo, radgan sistemis siZvelem, politikis sixistem da korufciis Waobma, ZirSive moWra is totebib romelzec stalinma sabWoeTis giganti saxelmwifo daamyno. aravin icis, ramdenad hqondaT gadawyvetili, ganviTarebis maRal stadiaSi Sesuli sabWoeTis demokratiuli gardaqmnebi da aRmSenebloba, stalinsa da lavrenti berias, magram is ki namdvilad kargad viciT qarTvelebma, rom Tavsdatexili represiebis, omis da SimSilis dros, yvelaze didi lodi swored qarTvelebs gvxvdeboda da radganac ruseTis mier SeduRabebul `Zmur kavSirSi~ viyaviT da rusulenovan sivrcesa da kulturas warmovadgendiT, yvela ubedurebis saTaves, ruseTTan vaigivebdiT. exla, cota xniT warmovidginoT imxanad Tavisufali rom yofiliyo saqarTvelo, rogor Cajdeboda msoflio politikis mozaikaSi? vis Seafarebda Tavs da ris fasad? miWirs gamovicno aseTi qveyana, magram erTi ki zustad vici: Tavis interesebs, yvela SemTxvevaSi, Tavis interesebsa da politikas dauqvemdebarebda is bednieri qveyana Cvens daRlil samSoblos. eWvgareSea, rom arc es procesi iqneboda umtkivneulo da yovelmxriv sasargeblo Cemi qveynisTvis, magram xSirad gvaviwydeba, rom xelgaSlil, gulSi Casaxutebel da saRiRino politikas ar cnobs msoflio. yvelas, didsa Tu pataras, Tavisi samreklos gadmosaxedidan vWirdebiT. ase iyo odiTgan da asea dResac. sul sxva saqmea Cven ra gvinda, rogor vxedavT Cveni qveynis momavals da romel konteqstSi? konfrontaciis TanxlebiT Tu, dabalansebis xelovnebis aTvisebiT. rogor davijero TiTqos TxuTmeti wlis Tavisufal saqarTvelos proamerikuli, prorusuli, anda, proevropuli politika gadaarCens? dRes uzomod daRlil Cvens qveyanas mxolod proqarTuli politika Tu uSvelis. swored aq, am nawilSia CemTvis saintereso ruseTTan `patara kaxis~ mier, 200 wlis winaT gakeTebuli arCevanis, mxolod dadebiTi aspeqtebi. Tu kargad gavixsenebT 90iani wlebis ruseTs, udavod SevniSnavT, rom maSin, roca saqarTvelo sisxlSi curavda,

P.S. dRes, roca kvlav daiRvara sisxli saqarTveloSi, roca ruseTma oficialurad gaaforma Sida qarTlisa da afxazeTis damoukidebloba, sami wlis win dawerili es werili samwuxarod, araTu kargavs aqtualobas, ufro met mniSvnelobas iZens da qarTul sagareo politikas gonivruli da awonili nabijebisken mouwodebs.

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cocxalia Tu ara badri patarkaciSvili da raSi sWirdeboda sikvdilis inscenireba?!

ucxoeTSi mcxovrebi Cveni Tanamemamuleebi xSirad gvekiTxebian, ramdenad realuria badri patarkaciSvilis aseTi moulodneli sikvdili da eWvsac gamoTqvamen, rom igi cocxalia. miTumetes, rom micvalebuli saqarTveloSi aravis unaxavs. amdenad, niSandoblivad gveCvena sainformacio saagento `faqtSi~ dekembris bolos dabeWdili eqskluziuri interviu, telekompania `imedis~ ucvlel generalur direqtorTan, biZina baraTaSvilTan, romelsac `imedis~ yofili TanamSromeli, telekompania `mzis~ gadacema `tabus~ wamyvani, marina saluqvaZe uZRveba. gTavazobT nawyvetebs am vrceli interviudan, romelic sastumro `Seraton-metexi-palasSi~ Sedga.
_ biZina, pirvel rigSi didi madloba, rom dro gamonaxe da interviuze damTanxmdi. _ SenTvis dros yovelTvis gamovnaxav. _ mainteresebs, ra mdgomareobaa da ra xdeba `imedSi~? _ ra kuTxiT gainteresebs? _ SemoqmedebiTi da ideologiuri kuTxiT. amboben, rom `imedi~ iseTi aRar aris, rogoric iyo, `qronika~ daemsgavsa `kuriersa~ da `mzeras~. Senc gaqvs gancda, rom es aRar aris is `imedi~, romelic xalxs uyvarda. `Zveli~ imedis nostalgia gaqvs? _ gulwrfelad rom giTxra, mec mesmis msgavsi saubrebi. Sedareba xdeba imasTan, rac iyo da rac aris, magram yvelafers aqvs Tavisi etapi da is, rac xdeboda SarSan, ar SeZleba, welsac xdebodes. vmuSaobdi `imedSi~ da ici, rom arasdros vereodi sainformacio politikaSi. gareTa TvaliT danaxuls geubnebi _ is, rom `qronika~ `mzis~ sainformacios hgavs, imiTaa ganpirobebulia, rom `mzis~ JurnalistTa didi jgufi dRes `imedSi~ muSaobs. yvela Jurnalists Tavisi xelwera aqvs da rogorc muSaobas arian miCveulni, ise muSaoben. ase rom, gasakviri araferia. is, rom SarSandelTan SedarebiT duRilis gradusi naklebia, nawilobriv ganpirobebulia imiTac, rom situacia mTlianad Seicvala. ver getyvi, rom SarSan, sainformacio politikiT `imedi~ absoluturad obieqturi iyo... aseve, mTlianad aris Secvlili sainformacio mimarTulebis xelmZRvaneloba. ise, nostalgia SeiZleba, mxolod da mxolod reitingis TvalsazrisiT mqondes, magram vxvdebi, rom es obieqturi mizezebiTaa ganpirobebuli. _ SarSan `imedis~ sainformacio politika bolomde obieqturi ar iyoo, Tqvi. ras gulisxmob? _ obieqturSi vgulisxmob ara Jurnalistebis damokidebulebas Tavisi samsaxuris mimarT, aramed imas, rom SarSanac xSirad gvqonda amaze laparaki, `imedi~ ufro mikerZoebuli da opoziciuri iyo. amas hqonda Tavisi axsna: xelisuflebas hqonda gamocxadebuli boikoti da opoziciasTan debatebze aravin modioda. amitom eTerSi, ZiriTadad, kritikuli masala gadioda. am mxriv axla balansi ufro metia. gaCnda ori mxare. mesmis, rom sazogadoebis garkveuli nawili isev im duRilis graduss elodeba, magram rodesac 50-procenti erT pozicias aqvs daTmobili da 50 _ meores, sxva STabeWdileba geqmneba. aseT viTarebaSi Jurnalists ar aqvs ufleba, TviTon gaxdes mxare. amitom, SarSan Cveni Toq-Sous wamyvanebi ar axdendnen meore poziciis gaJRerebas. _ anu fiqrob, rom isini ukve mxareebi iyvnen? _ ar mgonia. vfiqrob, rom is Jurnalistebi, vinc `imedSi~ muSaobdnen - giorgi TargamaZe, inga grigolia, eka xoferia, im rangis Jurnalistebi arian, vinc axerxebs, rom mxare ar gaxdes da Tavisi profesiuli movaleoba patiosnad Seasrulos. dRes aseTi Jurnalistebis naklebobaa. samive, sxva da sxva mizeziT, wavida `imedidan~ da maTi Secvla Zalian rTulia. garda amisa, im STabeWdilebas, romelzec Sen saubrob, isic amZafrebs, rom CvenTan ar gadioda aranairi Toq-Sou. ZiriTadad balansi da duRili ki SeimCneva Toq-SouSi, radgan debatebia, emocia ufro metia da SeiZleba, ufro maRal tonalobaSic isaubro. sainformacioSi ki mxolod faqtis aRnusxva xdeba da mtyuan-marTali mayurebelma unda gaarCios. sazogadoebas unda hqondes imis unari, rom Tavisi pozicia gamoimuSavos. satelevizio sezonis meore naxevridan es problema nawilobriv Semcirdeba, vinaidan daviwyeT Toq-Sou, sadac iqneba debatebi. mowveulni iqnebian sakmaod maRali rangis politikosebi. am Toq-Sous wamyvani vaxo sanaiaa da am gadacemis sixSire unda gaizardos. agreTve, SeiZleba gaCndes praim-Taimis Toq-Sou. amiT im standartebs mivuaxlovdebiT, romelic SarSan gvqonda. _ vin aris dRes `imedis~ ideologi? _ Zalian rTuli kiTxvaa. ideologi, rogorc aseTi, ar gvyavs. _ amboben, rom dRes aris sami `samTavrobo~ arxi, maT Sorisaa `imedic~. am arxebis ideologi ki gaxlavs mTavroba, xelisufleba da sainformacio samsaxuris mesveurebi direqtivebs Cinovnikebisgan iReben. _ ver daveTanxmebi am pozicias, vinaidan aranairi direqtiva, CemTan, yovel SemTxvevaSi, ar modis. Tu direqtivebs iRebs sxva, iman unda gagces pasuxi. _ Toq-Sou axsene, magram arsebobs gasarTobi gadacemebic. cxadia, ar vgulisxmob warmatebul proeqts, teleserials _ `Sua qalaqSi~. cnobilia, rom nebismier televiziaSi arsebobs e.w. Savi sia da ara marto politikur, aramed gasarTob gadacemaSic ki SeiZleba agikrZalon romelime stumris mowveva. Tu arsebobs msgavsi sia imedSi? _ ara. arc maSin, roca `imedSi~ muSaobdi yofila da arc axla ar aris `Savi sia~. Cven gvaqvs ori proeqti, romelzec did imedebs vamyarebT, `Sua qalaqSi~ da `Ramis Sou~. pirvelSi msgavsi siis arseboba gamoricxulia, vinaidan aris dadgmiTi da situaciuri komedia, meoreSi ki jer-jerobiT saerTod ar aris stumari. ase rom, am etapze `Savi sia~ ar gvexeba. _ biZina, Zalian axlo urTierToba gqonda badri patarkaciSvilTan. gqonda Tu ara kontaqti gardacvalebamde da dRes Tu agrZeleb urTierTobas mis ojaxTan? _ baton badrisTan megobruli urTierTona mqonda, riTic Zalian amayi var. es ar exeboda im ideologias, romelzec Cven vsaubrobdiT. politikuri kuTxiT saubrebi da konsultaciebi arasdros gvqonia. vimeoreb, arasdros vereodi sainformacio an politikuri programebis warmoebasa da dagegmvaSi. rac Seexeba Cems kontaqts badrisTan. ukanasknelad londonSi im dRes Sevxvdi, 12 Tu 13 dekembers, zustad aRar maxsovs, rodesac `imedi~ eTerSi brundeboda. erTad vuyureT sainformacio gamoSvebas da imave Rames TbilisSi gamovfrindi. Semdeg ramdenjerme visaubreT telefoniT, magram metad aRar minaxavs. rac Seexeb urTierTobas mis ojaxTan, maqvs sakmaod xSiri saubrebi mis meuRlesTan, qalbaton inasTan, romelsac Zalian did pativs vcem da vfiqrob, am urTierTobas araferi emuqreba. ukanasknelad qalbatoni ina oqtombris bolos, badris dabadebis dReze vnaxe, rodesac me da Cemi meuRle saflavze mivediT da sakmaod didxans visaubreT sxavadasxva Temaze... mas mere qalbaton inas aRar Sevxvedrivar, Tumca, satelefono saubrebi gvaqvs. _ qalbatoni ina `imedis~ dasabruneblad ibrZvis. erTi sasamarTlo ukve moigo. Tu sabolood gaimarjvebs, Seicvleba Tu ara `imedis~ menejmenti, kursi an mimarTuleba? _ es damokidebuli iqneba qalbatoni inas survilze. yoveli Cvengani unda iyos mzad im gadawyvetilebisTvis, rasac mflobeli miiRebs. SeiZleba, es viRacisTvis mtkivneuli iyos, maT Soris, CemTvisac, magram es Cveulebrivi ambavia. _ ra urTierToba gaqvs jozef qeisTan da, saerTod, vinaa jozef qei? _ jozef qei aris badris deidaSvili. _ ki, batono, yvelam icis, rom badris deidaSvilia, magram Zalian uceb gamoCnda. _ ver vityvi, rom uceb gamoCnda. sakmaod didi xania vicnob badrisgan. ver getyvi, rom Zalian aqtiurad monawileobda televiziis cxovrebaSi, Tumca badris davalebiT, sxva da sxva etapze, rogorc finansuri, aseve, saorganizacio sakiTxebis gadawyvetaSi miuRia monawileoba. iyo SemTxvevebi, rodesac Tanxebi `imedSi~ misi angariSebidan iricxeboda. SarSan, zafxulSi, teqnikuri detalebis gamo, garkveuli finansuri problemebi gvqonda da saxelfaso davalianebis gasastumrebeli Tanxebi jozef qeis angariSidan movida. ra Tqma unda, jozefi amas TavisiT ar akeTebda da yvelaferi badris davalebiT xde-

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boda, magram arxis cxovrebaSi aqtiurad monawileobda. im periodSic, marina, rodesac CvenTan muSaobdi da jer eTerSi arc ki viyaviT, londonSi aparaturisa da garkveuli ekipirebis SeZenis periodSi, konsultaciebSi jozef qeic monawileobda. vimeoreb, rom es xdeboda badris davalebiT da ara misi piradi iniciativiT. _ ramdenime kviris win gavrcelda informacia, rom jozef qeim datova saqarTvelo da aRar apirebs dabrunebas. _ guSin iyo radio `imedis~ dabadebis dRe da jozefic iq imyofeboda. _ axsene, rom batonma qeim ramdenjerme gadmouricxa Tanxa `imeds~. dRes saubroben, rom `imeds~ finansuri krizisi aqvs. ZaluZs Tu ara qeis `imedis~ mTeli biujetis dafarva? _ Cven seriozuli finansuri problemebi jozefis gamoCenamde gvqonda. es logikuric iyo, vinaidan Zalian didi xnis ganmavlobaSi ar viyaviT eTerSi. am xnis ganmavlobaSi dagrovda uamravi davalianeba, rac tvirTad dagvawva: sateliti, sareklamo valdebulebebi, komunikaciebi da ase Semdeg. arsebobda mimdinare davalianebebic. jamSi, vali im momentisTvis, rodesac eTerSi davbrundiT, sam milionnaxevars Seadgenda da dagrovili iyo manam, sanam jozef qei gamoCndeboda. sareklamo Semosavlebi arxisTvis, romelsac ar hqonda sainformacio da ZiriTadad meqanikaze iyo gadarTuli, miT umetes zafxulSi, romelic saerTod ar aris Semosavliani, xuTasi Statianisa da arsebuli studiebis TanamSromlebis Senaxva garTulda. saxelfaso davalianebebis dafarva mxolod agvistosTvis moxerxda. amas daemata omi da sareklamo bazris mTlianad dangreva, romelic, ici, rom televiziisTvis ZiriTadi Semosavalia. amitom, aseT pirobebSi axali proeqtebis dagegmva da Zvelebis ganaxleba rTuli iyo. amas daumate is teqnikuri problemebic, romlebic warmoiSva SarSan, 7 noembris movlenebis dros da maSin dakarguli sareklamo Semosavlebi, romelic Zalian seriozuli unda yofiliyo. rodesac arxi meored 24 dekembers gaiTiSa, marto politikuri reklamis gasaSvebi valdebuleba daaxloebiT milion rvaasi aTas dolars Seadgenda da iZulebulni viyaviT, es Tanxa dagvebrunebina. Zalian rTuli iyo yvelafris erTianad dafarva. iZulebulebi viyaviT, omis Semdeg isev xalxis da xelfasebis Semcirebaze wavsuliyaviT. aseT viTarebaSi, samwuxarod, bevri axali proeqti veRar gavakeTeT. dRes finansuri problemebi met-naklebad gadawyvetilia da mdgomareoba sagrZnoblad gamosworebulia. daviwyeT axali aparaturis SeZena. gafuWebuli da dakarguli aparaturis nawilze, romelic 7 noembris movlenebs Seewira, kompensacia miviReT, Tumca, ara im raodenobiT, ramdensac velodebodiT. sakmaod seriozuli Tanxebia gasaRebi imisTvis, rom `imedis~ teqnikuri saSualebebi, romliTac yovelTvis gamoirCeoda, aRvadginoT da Tan axali proeqtebis momzadeba da eTerSi gaSveba daviwyoT. _ biZina, albaT gaxsovs: kanSi erT-erTi vizitis dros cnobili prodiuseri, mark levini Segvxvda, romelsac survili hqonda, gadaeRo seriali `oligarqi~ cnobili nawarmoebis mixedviT, romelic badri patarkaciSvilisa da boris berezovskis istorias mogviTxrobs. mere levini Camovida saqarTveloSi da yvela erTad SevxvdiT baton badris. _ rasakvirvelia, maxsovs. _ miuxedavad imisa, rom mxatvruli filmi maSkovisa da uCaneiSvilis monawileobiT ukve gadaRebuli iyo, baton levins meti detalizacia undoda da badris nawarmoebis finals uqebda. modi, gavixsenoT `oligarqis~ finali. badri patarkaciSvilis prototipi, romelsac levan uCaneiSvili TamaSobs, sikvdils gaiTamaSebs. bolo kadrSi is `Tavis~ saflavTan dgas da gamvlelebi mxolod imitom scemen, rom `gardacvlils~ hgavs. erT-erTma britanelma kolegam miTxra, rom mis samSobloSi, sakuTari sikvdilis inscenireba kanoniT ar isjeba. xom ar fiqrob, rom badri patarkaciSvils, ubralod, dasWirda `sikvdili~, es yvelaferi inscenirebuli iyo da garkveuli periodis Semdeg cocxali da saR-salamaTi mogvevlineba? _ saerTod, aseTi didi adamianebis irgvliv yovelTvis bevri Wori trialebs. dResac bevr saRadmoazrovne adamians miaCnia, rom badri cocxalia da erT mSvenier dRes gamoCndeba. me veyrdnobi qalbatoni inas da ojaxis wevrebis cnobebs. samwuxarod, isini am versias ar iziareben. samwuxarod imitom, rom pirovnulad badrisTan Zalian axlos viyavi, Zalian vmegobrobdi da misi sikvdili CemTvis axlobeli adamianis da-

eqskluzivi
kargvas niSnavda, rac, TavisTavad, tragediaa. amitom badris `gacocxleba~ CemTvis Zalian sasixarulo iqneba, Tumca im informaciidan gamomdinare, rac ojaxis wevrebisgan maqvs, samwuxarod, amas gamovricxav. _ odesme gsmenia, rom guli awuxebda? erTxel mainc Tu dauCivlia SenTan? _ badrisTan mis janmrTelobaze saerTod ar misaubria. arc is maxsovs, odesme eTqvas, guli mawuxebso, magram im kataklizmebis gadamkide, romelSic gansakuTrebiT bolo periodis ganmavlobaSi moxda, es gasakviri ar iyo. adamianis guli uZlebs raRac etapamde. ar aris aucilebeli, raRac awuxebdes. uamravi adamiani SemiZlia gavixseno, romelsac aranairi Civili ar hqonda, magram gulma umtyuna da gardaicvala. _ Tqvi, rom im periodis `imedis~ sainformacio politikis obieqturobaze Tavs ver dadebdi, Tumca mis momzadebasa da warmoebaSi ar ereodi. miuxedavad aseTi poziciisa, batoni badrisTvis kerZo saubrisas Tu girCevia msgavsi reaqciis Sesusteba? _ amis Taobaze ar misaubria, Tumca yofila SemTxveva, roca Tavad hqonia am politikis Serbilebis survili. imasac getyvi, rom `vardebis revoluciis~ Semdeg ufro zomieri politikis momxre iyo. ambobda, es aris axalgazrda mTavroba, axalmosuli xalxi da modiT, viyoT SedarebiT ufro rbilebio. es aris faqti da amis mowme uamravi adamiania. _ patarkaciSvilis gaRizianeba etapobrivad moxda? _ misi poziciis gamkacrebas, albaT, raRac obieqturi mizezebic hqonda da sxvadasxva etapi gaiara, Torem Tavidanve aravis erCoda. _ arsebobs mosazreba, rom badri giorgi TargamaZis imedidan wasvlam seriozulad daaRona, radgan CaTvala, rom giorgim miatova. _ verafers getyvi, vinaidan giorgi TargamaZe `imedidan~ ianvris Sua ricxvebSi wavida. erTi Tvec ar iyo gasuli, ubedureba rom moxda da badri gardaicvala. am xnis manZilze ar mqonda masTan iseTi xSiri satelefono saubrebi, rom am sakiTxze Camoyalibebuli azri giTxra. CemTan saubrisas arc erTxel ar uxsenebia giorgis wasvla-mosvlis sakiTxi. yovel SemTxvevaSi, gulistkivili ar gamouxatavs. _ modi, odnav win davbrundeT. CemTan saubrisas erosi kiwmariSvilma brZana, `vardebis revolucias~ xeli mxolod imitom Sevuwye, rom badri patarkaciSvilis qveynis saTaveSi mosvlis saSiSroeba davinaxeo. marTla apirebda patarkaciSvili saqarTvelos xelisuflebis saTaveSi mosvlas? _ aseTi informacia ar maqvs da im periodSi arc aseTi SegrZneba gamCenia. me apolitikuri adamiani var da SeiZleba, Cemi am sakiTxebisadmi indeferentuli damokidebulebaa imis mizezi, rom msgavsi ram ar SemimCnevia, Tumca arc privatul saubarSi momismenia badrisgan, rom qveynis saTaveSi mosvla undoda. raze iyo erosis SiSebi dafuZnebuli, albaT, man ukeT icis. aseT detalebSi Caxeduli ar var. Tumca, veluri konkurencia `imedsa~ da `rusTavi 2~-s Soris yovelTvis iyo. pirveli dRidanve xisti urTierToba gvqonda. magram CemTvis es wminda satelevizio konkurencia iyo da ara _ politikuri dapirispireba. erosim Tqva, mixeil saakaSvils bolo arCevnebisas imitom dauWira mxari, rom ar mosuliyo badri. erosis da badris damokidebuleba calke Temaa. ver getyvi, sad mTavrdeba pirovnuli momenti da sad iwyeba maTi politikur-ideologiuri dava. orive iyo lideri arxebis mflobeli da aqedan gamomdinare, ar SeiZleba, gansakuTrebuli siyvaruli hqonodaT. konkurenciis ara erTi magaliTi SemiZlia mogiyvano, rodesac raRaceebis gakeTeba erTmaneTis jibrze xdeboda, Tumca politikuri sarCulis gamobma gamiWirdeba. rac Seexeba bolo saprezidento arCevnebs, badri ukve Riad monawileobda da yvelaferi gacxadebuli hqonda. maSin ki, `vardebis revoluciis~ dros araviTari politikuri ambicia badris, Cemi azriT, ar hqonia. _ rogori ginda, `imedi~ iyos? _ minda, iyos obieqturi informacia, Tumca vimeoreb, es Cemi sfero araa, gvyavdes maRali inteleqtis mqone Jurnalistebi, gvqondes kargi serialebi da filmebi, kargi proeqtebiT dabalansebuli satelevizio bade, Tumca idealuri televizia, Cemi gagebiT, ufro sazogadoebrivi da ara komerciuli mimarTulebiT wagviyvans. CemTvis idealuri televiziis Seqmna SeuZlebelia, vinaidan varT da viqnebiT orientirebuli Semosavalsa da reitingze.

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holandiis aeroportSi daRupul emigrantTa xsovnas

ami weli Sesrulda mas Semdeg, rac niderlandebis dedaqalaqis saerTaSoriso aeroportis `sxipholis~ teritoriaze sabediswero xanZari gaCnda. 26 oqtombris gviani Rame iyo. xanZari kriminaluri cixis im ganyofilebas gauCnda, romelSic usabuTobis gamo damwyvdeuli emigrantebi iyvnen moTavsebuli da samSobloSi dasabrunebeli sabuTebis molodinSi. maT Soris sami qarTvelic aRmoCnda. saknebSi gamomwyvdeuli sxvadasxva erovnebis mamakacebi yviriliT Svelas iTxovdnen. magram mSveleli didxans ar Canda. 27 oqtombris dilamde xanZari sul ufro mZvinvarebda. saboloo Sedegic Semzaravi iyo: am ganyofilebaSi moTavsebuli 43 adamianidan 27 yvelaze saSiS adgilas moxvda. maTgan 11 daiRupa. daRupulTa Soris erTi qarTvelic aRmoCnda. ramdenime dRis Semdeg, saqarTvelos sagareo uwyebis Carevis Sedegad, daTos cxedari samSobloSi Camoasvenes. gadarCenil 16 adamianSic iyvnen qarTvelebi. kaxas da giorgis bedma gauRimaT. Tumca, maT mZime fsiqologiuri mdgomareobis gamo, reabilitaciis xangrZlivi procesi dasWirdaT. axla isini `sabuTiani emigrantebi~ arian. ma-

gram maT dRemde ar aviwydebaT daTos ganwiruli yvirili, almokidebul saknebSi maTi ususuri yofa da gadarCenisTvis aRvlenili locva-vedreba. bevri maTgani, maT Soris Cveni moqalaqeebic, usafuZvlod aRmoCndnen deportaciisTvis gamzadebulTa ricxvSi. amis gamorkveva holandiaSi qarTuli diasporis daxmarebiT moxerxda. diasporis xelmZRvaneli marex togoniZe holandiis samarTaldamcavi organoebis xelmZRvanelebsac ki daupirispirda. kaxa da giorgi axla sxva gadarCenil emigrantebTan erTad mividnen `sxipholSi~, raTa yvavilebiT SeemkoT is adgili da sayviriT simbolurad gaexsenebinaT, rogor iTxovdnen Svelas maTsaviT sxvadasxva qveynis moqalaqe emigrantebi almodebuli Senobidan. aqve daRupulTa saxelebis warwerebiT 11 xe dairgo. xolo gadarCenilTa saxelebi liTonis konstruqciiT gakeTebul monumentur xeze amoitvifra. am faqtma, rogorc sami wlis win, amjeradac holandiuri mediis didi yuradReba miipyro. nato Caduneli holandiidan

qarTvel invalidebs isev holandieli qarTvelebi daexmarnen

cxoeTSi mcxovreb qarTvelTa garkveuli nawili, didi xania samSobloSi darCenili ojaxis wevrebis garda, maTTvis ucnobi adamianebis daxmarebazec zrunaven. maT ricxvSi, germaniis qalaq miunsteris qarTuli sazogadoeba `fesvebi~, safrangeTis qarTuli saTvistomo da erTeuli pirebi, holandiis qarTuli diaspora, SveicariaSi mcxovrebi qarTvelebis garkveuli nawili SegviZlia davasaxeloT. rom ara maTi gulisxmiereba, bevri adamini darCeboda elementaruli yofiTi nivTebis gareSe. samwuxarod, Cvens qveyanaSi aseTi gaWirvebuli ojaxebic arian. swored, holandiis diasporis xelmZRvanelis marex togoniZis uSualo iniciativiT araerTi humanitaruli tvirTi Camovida saqarTveloSi bedianisa bavSvTa saxlis, gurjaanis miusafar da unarSezRudul bavSvTa organizacia `meoxi XI~-is, TbilisSi invalidTa aliansis dasaxmareblad. amjerad, holandis diasporidan humanitaruli organizaciis `pirdapiri daxmareba saqarTvelo-internacionalis~ misamarTze TbilisSi mcxovrebi invalidebisa da aliansis wevrTa, moxucTa saxlis kaTarzisi, agvistos omSi K dazaralebul ojaxebis dasaxmareblad invalidis etlebi, leibebi da mravali saWiro inventari Camovida. aliansis xelmZRvaneli nino mardaleiSvili kmayofilebiT aRniSnavs, rom holandiis diasporas, iseve rogorc TbilisSi mis partnior organizacias, Cveni Jurnalis meSveobiT miawvdina xma da daxmarebis survils male realuri saqmec mohyva. nino mardaleiSvilis TqmiT, invalidebs didi survili aqvT, ar mowydnen cxovrebas da sasargebloni iyvnen rogorc sakuTari Tavis, aseve sazogadoebisaTvis. amisaTvis maT bevri saintereso proeqti aqvT mofiqrebuli. magram jerjerobiT xelisufleba da biznesmenebis dainteresebas ver miaRwies.

`bevri Cveni wevri mowyvetilia da ver dadis, magram gonebac uWris da xelebic umuSavebs. zogs araCveulebrivi nakeTobebi aqvs. gvinda Senoba moviZioT, rom iq gamofenagayidva movawyoT. SegviZlia kafec avamuSaoT. magram isev ucxoeTidan Tu gamogvexmaureba vinme. aq Cveni mSveleli aravin Cans~_ gviTxra invalidis etls mijaWvulma nino mardaleiSvilma. holandiis diasporis xelmZRvaneli marex togoniZe did madlobas uxdis yvelas, vinc am keTil saqmeSi aqtiur monawileobas iRebs. maT Soris holandiaSi mcxovreb qarTvelebs, qalbaton inga aRniaSvilis ojaxs aRniSnuli tvirTis Segrovebisa da gamogzavnaSi gaweuli daxmarebisaTvis. gansakuTrebiT aRsaniSnavia, am saqmeSi humanitaruli organizaciis pirdapiri daxmareba-saqarTvelo internacionalis~ koordinatoris nino daraxveliZis da misi kolegebis wvlili. maTTan erTad, marex togoniZe madlobas uxdis holandiur satransporto kompaniis `M-Star Logistic~-is xelmZRvanels peter terhosts da mis partnior qarTuli kompaniis `anleqslojistiks~-is xelmZRvanels zaza xoStarias, romelTa daxmarebiTac man araerTxel SeZlo saqarTveloSi mcxovrebi TanamemamuleebisaTvis daxmarebis gaweva. marex togoniZis TqmiT, es yvelam unda gaiTavisos da visac riTi SeuZlia, daexmaros SeWirvebul Tanamemamuleebs. `Cveni diaspora arc didia da arc mdidari. magram holandiaSic arian keTili admianebi, romlebic yovelTvis mzad arian daxmarebis xeli gamogviwodon. Cvenc mudmivad vecdebiT, cotaTi mainc SevumsubuqoT mdgomareoba maT, vinc amas saWiroebs. sawyenia, rom saqarTveloSi maTi ricxvi jerac didia~_ ganacxada marex togoniZem CvenTan saubrisas. naTia wurwumia

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religia

27 ianvari wminda ninos miZinebis dRea

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arTvelTa ganmanaTlebeli wminda nino keTilmorwmune da warCinebuli mSoblebis- zabulonis da sosanas erTaderTi asuli iyo.misi mama,zabuloni, romis imperiis mxedarTmTavari, frankTa (maSindeli safrangeTis)ganmanaTlebeli iyo. xolo deda, sosana- ierusalimis patriarqis iubenalis da, nino, qalaq kalastriSi daibada. roca nino 12 wlis gaxda, misi mSoblebi qalaq kalastridan ierusalimSi wavidnen,mTeli qoneba gayides da glaxakebs dauriges. zabuloni berad aRikveca, xolo sosana ierusalimis patriarqma glaxakTa sanugeSeblad da mosanaTlad ganawesa. nino ki darCenila biZasTan, taZarSi, - igi aRsazrdelad miabares erT RvTismosav qals- sara beTlemels, misgan ninom iswavla qristianuli RvTismsaxureba, saRmrTo sjuli da kvarTis istoria. roca ninom gaigo,rom qristes kvarTi(perangi) imyofeboda mcxeTaSi, gamokiTxa, Tu sad iyo mcxeTa. aRmzrdelma auxsna, rom es qalaqi qarTlSia,CrdiloeTis qveyanaSi. am dRidan nino gulmxurvaled evedreboda yovladwmida RvTismSobels, rom saqarTvelos naxvisa da uflis kvarTis Tayvaniscemis Rirsi gaexada. RvTismSobeli mariami ZilSi gamoecxada wmida ninos da qarTvelTa gansanmtkiceblad da didebuli misiis aRsasruleblad, deda RvTisam mas vazis jvari uboZa. wmida nino ierusalimis patriarqis locva-kurTxeviT, saqarTveloSi wamovida, 1 ivniss daadga fexi pirvelad javaxeTis zegans, xolo 19 agvistos, ukve mcxeTaSi iyo. es dRe armazis kerpis dReoba iyo. wmida nino SeaZrwuna xalxis kerpTayvanismcemlobam da RmerTs Seavedra maTi sulebi. misi wmida locviT, didi saswauli aResrula, zecidan mowveuli risxviT, kerpebi Seimusra da daiwyo qarTlis moqceva. es moxda feriscvaleba dRes 19 agvistos, kerpebis msxvreva saqarTvelos feriscvalebasa da ganaxlebas moaswavebda. wmida nino dasaxlda mefis baRis mcvelis ojaxSi, uSvilo colqmars,wmidanis locviT,Svili SeeZina. maT aRiares qriste da ninos farulad daemowafnen.wmida ninom qalaqis mibrwyine me naTeli, raTa vaRiaro saxeli Seni wmida da gadidebde Sen! saxierma RmerTma maSinve mohfina naTeli, mirianma aRiara qriste da Tayvanisca mas. mcxeTidan dabrunebulma mefem maSinve ninos miaSura da mis winaSe aRiara WeSmariti RmerTi.Aamis Semdeg moxda sveticxovlis cnobili saswauli, yvela SiSiTa da sixaruliT aRivso da adidebdnen RmerTs.Mcxovelmyofeli svetis saswaulis mowmeni gaxdnen. bizantiis RvTismosavma imperatorma konstantinem, mefe mirianis TxovniT, xalxis mosanaTlad, antioqiis patriarqi evstaTi warmogzavna. patriarqma naTelca ers, daloca da akurTxa axali samwyso, mTavarepiskoposad ki Rirsi ioane ganuwesa. wmida ninos RvawliT saqarTveloSi ganmtkicda qristianoba. wm.ninos Semdeg sarwmunoeba Seiqmna srulad, mTavar Zalad. qvakuTxedad qarTveli eris sicocxlisa, sarwmunoebam dahbada xalxSi erTsulovneba, Tanxmoba da siyvaruli. marTlmadideblur sarwmunoebas umoqmedia da unugeSebia qarTveli eri, rogorc gansacdelisa da gaWirvebis Jams, ise Svebis dros. sarwmunoebisa da eklesiis dacva Senaxva iyo umTvaresi sagani gareSe mtrebTan ganuwyveteli brZolisa. yovel SemTxvevaSi qarTveli eri mudam mzad iyo ganewira Tavi uflisa Cvenisa ieso qristesTvis, yovlad wmida RvTismSobelisa da qristianobis gulisTvis. survilisamebr misi patiosani gvami bodbeSi dakrZales. mis saflavze mirian mefem wmida giorgis eklesia aago. wmidanis tropari; sityvisa RvTisa msaxurTa Tanamosagreo da andrias qadagebisa warmarTebao, qarTvelTa ganmanaTlebelo da sulisa wmidisa qnaro nino, evedre qristesa RmerTsa Sewyalebad sulTa CvenTaTvis. amin! moamzada Jana Ciqovanma

zRudis gareT ipova mayvlis buCqi da iq aRmarTa jvari vazisa. igi daucxromlad loculobda, mraval saswauls axdenda da sneulebs kurnavda. masTan mivida TviT nana dedofali da ukurnebeli senisgan ganikurna. Amis Semdeg man daiaxlova nino da qristes sarwmunoeba aRiara. mefe mirians (265342ww) dedoflis gankurneba Zalian gauxarda, man gamoiZia Zveli da axali aRTqma, magram qristes aRiarebisgan Tavs didxans ikavebda. erTxel, TxoTis mTaze nadirobisas, mirian mefes TvalT daubnelda, SeSinebul mefes kerpebisadmi vedrebam ver uSvela da ninos RmerTs mihmarTa: ,,ganminaTle sibnele ese Cem zeda mdebare da gamo-

4 noembers TbilisSi wminda barbares eklesiaSi ukrainis saTvistomo aRniSnavda ukraineli xalxis istori aS i mZi me d R e s - wir v a - l o c v a aRavlines da paraklisi gadauxades 1932-1933 wlebSi daRupul TanamemamuleTa sulis mosaxsenieblad. wlebis Semdeg golodomori Sefasda, rogorc eris genocidi. sabWoTa mTavrobis mier SemuSavebulma industrializaciis grandiozulma programam uzarmazari saxsrebi moiTxova. dacarielda ukrainis beReli, evropaSi yvelaze msxvili xorblis mimwodebeli qveyana. gaiZarcva glexoba, 1 milion 700 aTasi tona xor-

ukrainelTa genocidis msxverplTa panaSvidi TbilisSi

bali amoiRes mosaxleobisagan. ojaxebidan mihqondaT yvelaferi, xmeli xilic ki. adamianebs Tavis gamokvebis aranairi saSualeba ar hqondaT. SimSilma moicva mTeli ukraina. Svidi milioni ukrainelis sicocxle Seiwira golodomorma. yovel wuTSi 17, yovel saaTSi-1000, dReSi ki -25 aTasi adamiani iRupeboda. wminda barbares eklesiaSi panaSvids eswrebodnen ukrainis elCi saqarTveloSi mikola mixeilis Ze spisi meuRliTurT, ukrainis konsuli da saelCosa da sakunsulos warmomadgenlebi, ukrainis diasporis wevrebi.
naTia gogitiZe

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qarTveli eqimi, romelic peterburgSi pativiscemiT sargeblobs

1858 peterburgSi, smolenskis velze, vasilievis kunZulis did prospeqtze, ruseTSi rigiT mesame mowyalebis Temi daarsda, saxelad `pokrovski~. Tumca, amas win didi istoria uZRoda. mis damaarsebels bunebiT saTno da qvelmoqmed adamians, did kneinas _ aleqsandre petres asuls, princesa terezasa da princ petre giorgis Ze oldenburgskis qaliSvils, miznad hqonda TemSi aRezarda Raribi da upatrono bavSvebi, mowyalebis debi. isini fics debdnen, rom iqnebodnen moyvasis erTgulni. roca bavSvebi avad xdebodnen, maT sxvagan, saavadmyofoebSi agzavnidnen samkurnalod. es garkveul problemebs qmnida. swored amitom gaCnda idea, Tems sakuTari saavadmyofo hqonoda. marTlac, 1859 wels gaixsna stacionari, xolo 1917 wels pokrovskis Temi wiTeli jvris organizaciis mflobelobaSi gadavida. 1920 wels ki mis bazaze gaixsna havanis saavadmyofo. klinikis saTaveSi iyvnen gamoCenili medikosebi, romlebmac saTanado kvali datoves sabWoTa medicinis ganviTarebaSi. 1964 wels aq gaixsna ruseTSi pirveli specializirebuli infarqtis ganyofileba intensiuri dakvirvebis palatiT. mravali wlis ganmavlobaSi es iyo msoflioSi erT-erTi pirveli laboratoria, romelic ikvlevda infarqtis problemebs. male aSenda kardiologiuri korpusi, romlis bazaze Seiqmna antiariTmiuli centri. 2006 wels saavadmyofos mTavari eqimis - baton oTar xurcilavas Tavdauzogavi SromiT da mondomebiT damTavrda gayinuli mSeneblobebi. dRes pakrovskis saavadmyofo mravalprofiliania: qirurgiuli, tramvatologiuri, kardioqirurgiuli, yel-yur-cxviris, rentgenologiuri, endoskopiuri, reanimaciuli da saswrafo gadaudebeli daxmarebis ganyofilebebi xalxis samsaxurSia. peterburgSi stumrobisas Sevxvdi da gavesaubre pokrovskis saavadmyofos mTavari eqimis moadgiles qirurgiis dargSi elguja latarias. igi warmoSobiT zugdidis raionis sofel Zveli abasTumanidanaa. daamTavra peterburgis samedicino instituti. pokrovskis saavadmyofos mTavari eqimis moadgile qirurgiis dargSi. docenti, eweva pedagogiur moRvaweobas, amasTan, praqtikul saqmianobas warmatebiT aTanxmebs mecnierul saqmianobasTan, aris avtori 25-ze meti mecnieruli naSromisa da Tanaavtori saxelmZRvaneloebisa: . . ,. ., .. , .. _ davibade 1963 wels zugdidis raionis sofel Zvel abasTumanSi. male ojaxi sacxovreblad zugdidSi gadavida. dedaCemi meri abSilava rusulis maswavlebeli iyo, mama _ lavrenti maTematikis maswavlebeli, SemdgomSi skolis direqtori iyo. bebiac maswavlebeli, babua ki eqimi. aseT garemocvaSi gavizardeT samni: ori Zma da erTi da, romelic, samwuxarod, aRar gvyavs. me da Cemma Zmam oqros medalze davamTavreT skola. biZinam politeqnikuri institutis samSeneblo fakulteti daamTavra. Cemi cda Cavricxuliyavi Tbilisis samedicino institutSi uSedegod damTavrda. biZaCemis - jemal abSilavas rCeviT gadavwyvite, aq mecada bedi. SemdgomSic man didi wvlili Seitana Cemi eqimad Camoyalibebis saqmeSi. institutis Semdeg nel-nela Semityua aqaurobam. sul vfiqrobdi, jer amas gavakeTeb da mere waval da ase gavida wlebi. institutis Semdeg sami weli pokrovskis saavadmyofoSi vmuSaobdi. gaviare klinikuri ordinatura, viyavi ufrosi laboranti, aspiranti, asistenti. mere xarisxi davicavi. 2000 wlis oqtomberSi gavicani batoni oTar xurcilava, man SemomTavaza Tanamdeboba da mec davTanxmdi. did qalaqs cxovrebis iseTi ritmi aqvs, rom xandaxan dafiqrebis droc ara gaqvs. magram roca warsuls gadavxedav, meamayeba, rom var pedagogebis Svili, rasac mivaRwie yvelafers wignis siyvaruliT, TviTganaTlebis unars unda vumadlode. Cemi meuRle- maia gulordava dermatologia. ocdaeqvsi welia ucxo qalaqSi vcxovrobT, Tumca peterburgi is qalaqia, sadac daibadnen Cveni Svilebi, sadac ganaTleba miviReT, sadac pativs gvcemen. Cven ar gvigvrZvnia, rom ucxotomelebi varT. institutSi warmatebiT vswavlobdi, Tavi Rirseulad meWira, me xom qarTveli var! amas yvela amCnevda da saTanadod afasebda Cems mondomebas. daZabulobis periodSic ar yofila uxerxuloba. sazogadoeba, sadac me vtrialeb, samedicino sferoa, inteligentebisagan Sedgeba da gamorCeulad Tbili, humanuri xalxia, imaTgan gansxvavebiT vinc biznesSia. baton oTar xurcilavasTan Svidi weli vimuSave. me viyavi misi pirveli moadgile. ori qarTveli warmatebiT varTmevdiT Tavs urTules samuSaos. igi ase mogvmarTavda qarTvel specialistebs: Tqven mogeTxovebaT aTjer meti vidre russ, ebraels, ukrainels, radgan garTulebulia politikuri viTareba. roca mTavari eqimi da misi moadgile qarTvelia, iq veravin gabedavs upativcemulobas, magram arc Cven mivcemT aravis imis Tqmis saSualebas, rom ikiTxon ratom aris qarTveli am Tanamdebobazeo, radgan vimsaxurebdiT amas. aq swavlobdnen da muSaobdnen qarTvelebi, perspeqtiuli qirurgebi: daTo miqelaZe, zura zedgeniZe. roca isini saqarTveloSi dabrundnen, aqaurebi wuxdnen: rogori kargi biWebi iyvnen, rogor gamogvadgebodneno. Tumca, am daZabulobam dagvafiqra mec, sxvebic. Cven ojaxebi gvyavs, Svilebi gvezrdebian. vcdilobT yvelanairad avaridoT Tavi usiamovnebas. yovelTvis ver xerxdeba, magram quCaSi Tu viRac mawanwala raRacas SemomZaxebs, me mas yuradRebas ar vaqcev. mTavaria, ganaTlebuli adamiani, vinc icis Cveni xalxebis urTierTobis istoria, igi ar ikadrebs Seuracxyofa momayenos me, eqims, roca icis, rom vemsaxurebi mis xalxs. ori wlis win maRaziaSi gamomecnaura 50 wlis kaci, vinme nikiforovi. saavadmyofo 650 sawolzea gaTvlili, aqedan 250 qirurgiisaa. amitom yvela pacients ver daimaxsovreb. am pirovnebam Semaxsena, rom ori wlis win iwva qirurgiul ganyofilebaSi da uars ambobda operaciaze. me didi axsnaganmartebis Semdeg davarwmune, rom es gardauvali iyo. isic damTanxmda da axla madlobis saTqmelad movida. miTxra, rom swored am operaciis wyalobiT aris cocxali. rTulia TanamSromlebTan urTierToba. mravalferovani koleqtivia. xmis aweviT aravisTan vlaparakob. rusTavelis

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ara maSinve micno. gadamexvia gulaCuyebuli, Sin SemipatiJa. Turme im pacients undoda madloba gadaexada CemTvis da eSmakoba uxmaria amanaTTan dakavSirebiT. saCuqari ki simboluri iyo, magram yuradReba amaRelvebeli. CrdiloeTis am Soreul qalaqSi Tavs bednierad vgrZnob, ojaxi Cems gverdiTaa, vzrdi Svilebs, vakeTeb sayvarel saqmes, myavs megobrebi, magram samSobloze fiqri Tan mdevs. weliwadSi orjer Cavdivar saqarTveloSi. Svilebi zafxulis or-sam Tves zugdidSi atareben, wvimaSi, qarSi ezoSi arian. qarTuli wera-kiTxva bebiam da babuam aswavles. ufrosi-irakli 12 wlis aris. mas seriozuli warmatebebi aqvs fexburTSi. umcrosi-lavrenti 9 wlisaa. igi zedmetad seriozulia, kargad swavlobs. Cemi Zmac Tavis SvilebiT sami welia aq cxovrobs. misi Svilebi-giorgi da daviTi qarTul skolaSi swavloben. irakli da lavrenti maTTan urTierTobiT qarTul samyaros ufro metad ukavSirdebian, qarTulad saubroben istoriaze, xelovnebaze, qarTul wes-Cveulebebze. dekembris TveSi viyavi samSobloSi. mSoblebs iubile gadavuxade. mama 85 wlis gaxda, deda-75-is. davupatiJe mezoblebi, megobrebi, naTesavebi. Cemi survili da ocnebaa bednieri saqarTvelo vnaxo, guls mtkens quCebSi daRvremili saxeebis yureba. saSinelebaa, roca adamiani ver amJRavnebs Tavis SesaZleblobebs, xalxi unda dasaqmdes. unda vecadoT aqac da saqarTveloSic rac SegviZlia is gavakeToT. rusul-qarTuli urTierTobebis daTboba ki Cven, aq myof qarTvelebs, cxovrebas kidev ufro gagviiolebs da sainteresos gaxdis. esaubra naTia gogitiZe

ar iyos `gvelsa xvreliT amoiyvans, ena tkbilad moubari. Cemamde vinc muSaobda mas sxvanairi principi hqonda. dila iwyeboda yviriliT, CxubiT, usiamovnebiT. me diliT cxris naxevarze ukve SenobaSi var, movikiTxav yvelas- sanitars, eqTans, eqims. zogs vesaubrebi, zogs ojaxis ambebs vekiTxebi. adamiani rkina ar aris, amitom saWiroa nervebi daioko. am wuTSi Cems magidaze devs saCivari erT-erT ganyofilebaze. axlaxans Tqven naxeT kabinetSi Semosuli Cemi TanamSromeli eqimi. igi operaciisTvis emzadeba da saCivaric swored mis ganyofilebas exeba. me mas vTxove, operaciis Semdeg mosuliyo. ar minda aRelvebuli Sevides avadmyofTan, xeli ar auCqardes, Secdoma ar dauSvas. daamTavrebs operacias da Semdeg ganvixilavT saCivars, erTad vipoviT gamosavals. Cemi biografiidan erT saintereso SemTxvevaze giambobT. 1989 wels axalgazrda qirurgma erTi wlis staJiT, morigeobis dros operacia gavukeTe 93 wlis moxucs, CaWedili Tiaqari iyo, nawlavebis nawili amovkveTe. am asakis moxucisTvis mZime operacia iyo, CemTvis ki-axalgazrda qirurgisTvis_Zneli. diliT morigeoba davamTavre, SvebulebaSi gavedi da erTi TviT saqarTveloSi gavemgzavre. davbrundi peterburgSi, mivedi saavadmyofoSi da vikiTxe avadmyofis Sesaxeb. miTxres, kargad iyo da gaewerao. ori kviris Semdeg mirekaven da meubnebian, rom CemTvis saqarTvelodan gamogzavnilia amanaTi da igi qarTvel gogonasTan inaxeba. gamikvirda, axlaxans Camovedi, rac wamosaRebi iyo, wamoviRe. mivedi misamarTze megobarTan erTad, aReben kars da ismis: , . oTaxidan gamovida moxuci bebia, etyoboda, rom Zlivs xedavda. xma amoviRe Tu

emigrantis werili

fuli xelis WuWyia, mTavari ojaxi da janmrTelobaa

2 welia me da Cemi qmar-Svili salonikSi varT da erTi suli maqvs, rodis Camoval samSobloSi. ar megona, amden xans Tu davrCebodiT. dabrunebaze fiqrs arasdros ar SeveSvebi. sxva gza ar gvqonda. Tan Cems qmars dapirdnen, sabuTebs male gagakeTebinebTo da Camodio. magram arc araferi gakeTda. ucxo qveyanaSi rogorc ar unda icxovro, yovelTvis ucxo iqnebi amaTTvis. aq hgoniaT, yvelas unda evropaSi cxovreba. isi ki ar ician, iZulebiT vmuSaobT, rom ojaxi SevinaxoT. dabrunebiT ki davbrundebiT, magram samsaxuri Tu ar iqneba, isev umuSevrebi xom ar viqnebiT?! aq ki kargad varT, magram rom vxedav ra wvalebiT vakeTebT fuls, giJs vgavar. mainc verafers vagrovebT. yoveldRiurobaSi vxarjavT da axloblebs vugzavniT saqarTveloSi. Tu qmari damiavadmyofda, rad minda aseTi fuli?! plantaciaSi Tu muSaob dReSi 50 kiloiani 30 tomara da metic unda zido, mowyvetili brundebi saxlSi. marto Sxaps Tu miiReb da loginamde Zlivs aRwev. meti araferze fiqrob. restoranSi Tu iSove adgili, 18 saaTi muSaob, mTvralebTan gaqvs kavSiri. ar ici vis ra moeprianeba. Zalian gvinda CamovideT mirCevnia TveSi 150 lari mqondes da Cems nanatr samSobloSi viyo, vidre aq bevri vimuSaoT da isic ar Candes. im dRes bavSvi cudad iyo da saavadmyofoSi venidan sisxli auRes, wamali misces da 100 evro gadagvaxdevines. Cems ulamazes saqarTvelos mainc araferi mirCevnia. amitom vfiqrobT, rom momaval wels CamovalT. jobs saqarTveloSi rame momgebiani biznesi gavxsnaT. mamamTilma gviTxra, saqarTveloSi bina gayideTo da rame gaxseniTo. arc ki viciT, 60000 dolariT raimes TugavakeTebT, an saqarTveloSi ra ufro momgebiania, rom winaswarve ganvsazRvroT da isev wagebaSi ar davrCeT? gulaxdilad rom vTqva, RmerTs vexvewebodi, saberZneTSi wasvla rom gamomsvloda. axla ki vnanob. me Cemi Svilis bedi, misi momavali maRelvebs. ar minda aq izrdebodes. minda Cvens samSobloSi iyos, sadac Cveni winaprebi cxovrobdnen. iq gaizardos da bednieri iyos. arasdros ar Seveguebi aq cxovrebas. Cemianebs, megobrebs Cvens tradicias adaT-wesebs verasdros daviviwyeb. Cemi qmari 13 weli saberZneSi cxovrobda da muSaobda. magram yovelTvis ambobda, Cems saqarTvelos araferi jobia. xalxi iZulebiT muSaobs, oRond fuli gaakeTon da yvelaferze wavlen. mis sanacvlod uars ambob janmrTelobaze, mxiarulebasa da ojaxur siTboze. aq yoveli wuTi fulia. Camosuli xalxi isev saberZneTze muSaobs da ara TavisTvis, yvelafers cecxlis fasi aqvs. magaliTad, zafxulSi Tu kunZulze musaob, 4000 evros gamoimuSaveb. magram zamTarSi turizmi ar aris, saxlSi zixar da am fuls xarjav. Tu didi xnis Camosuli xar da sabuTebi gaqvs, cxovroba ufro advilia. aq adamianuri siTbo da siyvaruli ar ician, marto fuli! imitomac berZnebs sxva erovnebis qalebi moyavT colad. aq bevri qarTvelia. magram umetesoba Sewuxebuli da dadardianebulia. nostalgia mec pirveli dRidan damewyo. ar megona amden xans Tu davrCebodiT. gvegona sabuTebs gavakeTebdiT da CamovidodiT sezonurad. xalxo icodeT, fuli xelis WuWyia, dRes aris da xval ara. cxovrebaSi mTavaria janmrTeloba da ojaxi. nu wamoegebiT ankess. siyvaruls da janmrTelobas fuliT ver iyidiT. lia, saberZneTidan

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rogor unda SevxvdeT 2009 wels, rom warmateba dagvebedos?

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. . . . . , , . ! ! . 2009 . . , . , . . , . , . , , , . ! . . . , . , . . , . , . , . , . , ! . . , . . . , . . , . : ; 2010 ! , . ; . . , . . , . , .

horoskopi
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me patara qarTveli var

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Cveni Jurnali yvela asakis mkiTxvelis interesebis dakmayofilebas isaxavs miznad, rogorc saqarTveloSi, ise mis farglebs gareT. amdenad, tradiciulad vexmianebiT patarebisaTvis saintereso Temebsac. am rubrikaSi gagacnobT saqarTveloSi da ucxoeTSi mcxovreb patarebs, maT Semoqmedebas. dRevandel nomerSi norCi Jurnalistebis Sesaxebac gesaubrebiT, romlebic am sferoSi pirvel nabijebs dgamen da cdiloben, TandaTan alRo auRon mediis Taviseburebebs. isini 149-e saSualo skolis (direqtori maia giorgaZe) moswavleebi arian. nino Rurwkaias, kote nadiraZis, valeri makasaraSvilis, megi mecxvariSvilis, miSiko kvaracxeliasa da nino ozbeTelaSvilis Canaxatebi, interviuebi, informaciebi imis Sesaxeb, ras swavloben qarTul skolebSi emigraciaSi myofi qarTveli bavSvebis Tanatolebi da ras ganicdian ojaxSi darCenili Svilebi emigraciaSi wasuli mSoblebis gareSe, vfiqrobT. saintereso iqneba ara marto patara mkiTxvelisaTvis... maT surT TavianTi momavali Jurnalisturi saqmianoba, am problemebis gaSuqebiT daiwyon. Cven, SeZlebisdagvarad, davexmarebiT maT da amiT TanatolebTan urTierTobis saSualebasac mivcemT.

Tbilisel moswavleTa namuSevrebis gamofenam xelisufalTa yuradRebac miipyro

vebs CavutaneT tkbileuli, samosi, sakvebi. Cvens skolaSi cxovrobda 44 ltolvili, axla mxolod 8 bavSvi darCa da CvenTan swavlobs. Cvens skolas aqvs studia `xelovneba~, sadac Tixis nakeTobebis damzadebis saSualeba gvaqvs. Cveni mizania davexmaroT bavSvebs, visac es Wirdeba. Aaqve sxvadasxva skolis moswavleebs da direqtorebs gavesaubre. pirveli maTgani 169-e skolis direqtori marina darsaveliZe aRmoCnda. _ qalbatono marina, gamofenaze ramdeni moswavle iRebda wels monawileobas? _ wels pirvelad miviReT monawileoba gamofena-gayidvebSi. Cveni skola sajaro skolaa da ar gvaqvs samxatvro studia. bavSvebi Tavisi surviliT akeTeben nakeTobebs. wels maswavleblebic iyvnen CarTulebi. daaxloebiT 20 bavSvi iRebda monawileobas Cveni skolidan. gamofenaze skola-pansion `mTieb~-is moswavleebic Zalian aqtiurobdnen. patara xelovanebi umaspinZldebodnen stumrebs da aCvenebdnen gobelenebs, zardaxSebs, samkaulebs. bavSvebis TqmiT, am araCveulebriv nakeTobebs isini modelirebis gakveTilze akeTeben, sadac bavSvebs masalebi miaqvT da jgufurad muSaoben. aRsaniSnavia, rom Tbilisis meriaSi gamarTul gamofenaze 4 -9 klasis moswavleebi iRebdnen monawileobas. Sorena imnaZe Jurnalistikis fakultetis studenti

vato emxvaia

giorgi zelencovi

gasuli wlis bolos Tbilisis meriaSi gaimarTa gamofena, romelSic monawilebodnen dedaqalaqis TiTqmis yvela skolis moswavleebi. maT TavianTi xeliT Sesrulebuli namuSevrebi, naxatebi da aqsesuarebi hqondaT gamotanili gasayidad. aq iyvnen biznesmenebi, mTavrobis pirebic da qalaqis meri. bavSvebis mxiarulebam foiec gamoacocxla. iqve ramdenime interviu Caviwere. vato emxvaia me-19 skolis me-3 klasis moswavlea. _ vato ramdeni welia rac xatav Dda romeli naxati giyvars yvelaze ufro Seni naxatebidan? _ 6 wlidan vxatav, maqvs daaxloebiT 100 namuSevari, yvelaze ufro miyvars manqanebis xatva. es CemTvis pirveli gamofenaa, marto mxatvari ar var, msaxiobic var. givi sixaruliZem gadaiRo patara filmi `quCis dedofali~, me quCis biWs vTamaSob. male kinoSic gadamiReben. G g iorgi zelencovic me-19 skolis me-6 klasis moswavlea. _ giorgi ramdeni wlidan akeTeb yelsabams? D_ amaze muSaoba 4 wlidan daviwye, jer baRSi davdiodi. skolaSi samxatvro studia wels gaixsna. jgufSi 15 bavSvi varT. AvswavlobT qarTul keramikas, ferweras, gamoyenebiTi xelovnebis ramdenime keras movicavT. _ ramdeni namuSevari gaqvs Dda yvelaze ufro risi gakeTeba giyvars? _ daaxloebiT 50 mde. yvelaze ufro yelsabamis, peplebis gakeTeba miyvars. ZiriTadad, biserebSi vmuSaob. Semdeg me-19 skolis direqtors, qalbaton manana CargeiSvils vesaubre. _ qalbatono manana, Tqveni skola yovel wels iRebs monawileobas gamofenaze? _ara, aq wels pirvelad miviReT monawileoba. magram skolaSi yovel wels vmarTavT gamofenas. 14 noembersac gvqonda gamofena-gayidva _ `Semodgomis nobaTi~. Semdeg wavediT sofel tyviavSi, sadac omisgan dazaralebul bavS-

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festivali

`wminda andrias jvari~ saqarTvelodan saqarTveloSi

sruliad saqarTvelos kaTolikos patriarqis, uwmindesi da unetaresi ilia II-is mier kurTxeuli da dalocvili marTmadidebluri filmebis saerTaSoriso gansakuTrebiT esaWiroebaT mSobliur enaze gagonili RvTis sadidebeli sityva, kinos eniT gadmocemuli erovnuli kulturuli memkvidreobis saganZurebis xilva, Tavisi agvistos TveSi. sul male, did britaneTSi, saqarTvelos saTvistomos miwveviT, wminda andrias jvari Sexvdeba londonSi mcxovreb Cvens Tanamemamuleebs, romelnic didi mowadinebiT elian WeSmariti rwmenis, zneobis, saTnoebis da sulieri amaRlebis gamomxatvel festivals. agreTve mimdinareobs molaparakebebi vatikanSi saqarTvelos elCTan batoniSvil qeTevan bagration-muxraTbatonTan da italiaSi saqarTvelos elCTan baton konstantine gabaSvilTan. gvsurs, marTmadidebluri filmebis saerTaSoriso festivali wmida andrias jvari estumros roms, marselsa da bars, sadac mravlada arian qarTvelebi warmodgenili. Jurnali realoba da samyaro-emigrantebi regularulad mogawvdiT informacias festivalis Sesaxeb da iqneb, Jurnalis mkiTxvelTa Soris gaCndes festivalSi monawileobis msurveli. wmida andrias locva Seewios yvela Cven Tanamemamules, romelic axla samSoblosgan moSorebiT cxovrobs da Sromobs. RmerTi iyos Tqveni da sruliad saqarTvelos mfarveli!
kadri filmidan `Ciorebi~, dajildovda Jiuris specialuri priziT

kadri filmidan `xidi~, romelic Jiuris specialuri priziT dajildovda

festivali wmida andrias jvari, mesamejer Catarda saqarTveloSi, q. baTumis meriis, aWaris kulturisa da ganaTlebis da sportis saministros mxardaWeriT da studia meoxis organizatorobiT. imisTvis rom es umniSvnelovanesi movlena (rogorc mas patriarqi uwodebs) ar Semoifarglos mxolod xuTdRiani sakonkurso CvenebiT, romelic yovelwliurad oqtombris TveSi baTumSi tardeba, aramed mTeli saqarTvelos keTilmowese adamianebisaTvis TvalsaCino da xelmisawvdomi gaxdes, festivalSi gamarjvebuli da gamorCeuli filmebi naCvenebi unda iqnas saqarTvelos yvela eparqiaSi, agreTve dasavleT evropis eparqiaSi da im qveynebSi, sadac Cveni Tanamemamuleni mravlad arian warmodgenili. saqarTvelos sazRvarebs gareT mcxovreb Cvens Tanamemamuleebs

qveynis Secnoba-ar daviwyeba da mudmivi kavSiri saqarTvelosTan. es proeqti ukve meore weliwadia xorcieldeba. baTumSi festivalis damTavrebisTanave Cveneba TbilisSi tardeba. Semdeg ki festivali saqarTvelos eparqiebSi iwyebs mogzaurobas. ukve iyo rusTavSi, zugdidSi, quTaisSi, foTSi, ozurgeTSi, TamaraSenSi. SarSan trapizonSi, saqarTvelos generaluri konsulis baton avTandil miqacaZis TaosnobiT, Cveni trapizoneli TanamemamuleTaTvis gaimarTa safestivalo Cveneba, ramac didi mowoneba daimsaxura. albaT mesame festivali welsac estumreba trapizons, rac ver moxerxda TamaraSenis mcxovreblebisaTvis. radgan is kinoTeatri, sadac 2007 wels festivali wm. andrias jvari stumrobda sruliad ganadgurebulia, im saSineli movlenebis gamo, rac saqarTvelos Tavs daatyda

mariana kalandariSvili marTmadidebluri filmebis saerTaSoriso festival `wmida andria jvari-is damfuZnebeli, asociacia meoxis Tavmjdomare

tradiciuli kinofestivali berlinSi TebervalSi gaimarTeba B

2009 wlis kinofestivalebis sezoni, tradiciulad, germaniis dedaqalaqidan iwyeba. berlinis 59-e kinofestivali `berlinale palasSi~ 5 Tebervals gaixsneba. festivalis mTavar prizebs, oqros da vercxlis daTvebs, ramdenime nominaciaSi gamarjvebul filmebs gadascemen. dagegmilia 400-ze meti filmis Cveneba, amaTgan 30 moklemetraJiania, konkursze mniSvnelovani adgili ukavia dokumentur kinos. 2006 wlidan dawesda `momavlis prizi~ saukeTeso debiutisaTvis. gamarjvebuli wels 50 000 evros miiRebs. 59-e `berlinales~ saerTaSoriso Jiuris Tavmjdomarea cnobili msaxiobi tilda svintoni. festivali gaixsneba cnobili germaneli kinoreJisoris, tom kikveris politikuri deteqtiviT, filmiT `internacionali~. masSi mTavar rols amerikeli kinovarskvlavi naimi uotsi. rac Seexeba qarTul filmebs, jer-jerobiT cnobilia, rom konkursgareSe naCvenebi iqneba qarTveli kinoreJisoris, nana jorjaZis bolo namuSevari. `berlinale-59~ 15 Tebervals daixureba. amdenad, ufro vrcel da saintereso masalas festivalis dasrulebis Semdeg mogawvdiT. leila kamlaZe

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ra aris saWiro imisaTvis, rom fulma imuSaos CvenTvis da ara Cven _ fulisTvis?!
(gagrZeleba. dasawyisi wina nomerSi) Tu sakuTar Tavs ar vcemT pativs da xSirad vakritikebT, sakuTari cxovreba xSirad ubedurebad gveqceva. magram Tu gviyvars sakuTari Tavi, es sixarulis safuZvlad gadageqceva. amasTan, Tqveni warumatebloba araviTar SemTxvevaSi ar daabraloT mSoblebs, axloblebs, an xelisufalT. amiT Tqven mxolod erT adgils tkepniT, rCebiT am problemebSi da imedgacruebaSi. sxvisi dadanaSauleba ver giSveliT, mxolod energias wagarTmevT. yuradRebiT unda daakvirdeT Tqvens metyvelebas. ras warmoTqvamT realurad da ras gaifiqrebT Sinagan diaspogSi. Tu sakuTar leqsikaSi negatiur, damangreveli da SemboWveli azrebis matarebel sityvebs SeniSnavT, romelic Tqveni SesaZleblobebis realizacias xels uSlis, saswrafod amoiReT xmarebidan. faqtia, metyvelebis kontrolis teqnika energiasa da yuradRebas moiTxovs. ar SeiZleba gagonili ambavi uaryofiTi qveteqstiT gadavceT sxvas, an gavavrceloT Wori. unda gaTavisufldeT iseTi saginebeli sityvebisagan, romelic Tavisi saSineli ZaliT angrevs yovelgvar miRwevas. ar SeiZleba sityvebis `Tu~ da `unda gavakeTo~ xmareba. radgan yelaferi, rasac iZulebiT vakeTebT, warmoSobs qveSecneul survils, es ar gavakeToT. unda gamoiyenoT: `me minda~, `me virCev~, `me gadavwyvite~. es sityvebi Secvlian Tqvens cxovrebas. rac SeiZleba xSirad TqviT: `me virCev warmatebas~. sityva `magram~ sawinaaRmdego informaciis matarebelia da mas sityva `ara~ akontrolebs. dilas cudi ganwyobiT da wuwuniT nu daiwyebT. Torem mTeli dRe uaryofiT ganwyobas daibedebT. ecadeT mxolod saimedo, mizanmimarTuli da STagonebuli sityvebi warmoTqvaT da ara sayvedurebiT da sevdiT savse. amis wyalobiT Tqven SeZlebT SeaRwioT pirovnebis ramdenime garsSi, niRabSi, rolSi, daZlioT SiSSi da iqnebiT gulwrfeli, megobruli, mosiyvarule da marTali. magram bevri adamiani cdilobs sxvisi codnis gamoyenebas da yalbi pirovnebis imitaciis Seqmnas, raTa am gziT sakuTari martooba da dakarguli keTildReoba ar SeigrZnos. Tu Tqven marTla gsurT, iyoT TavisTavadi, SewyviteT mombaZveloba. es arasdros ar aris gvian. gaasufTaveT Tqveni pirovnuli sarke da CaixedeT Sig. Tavdapirvelad SegeSindebaT. magram Semdeg mixvdebiT, ramdenad sasiamovnoa sworad cxovreba. giyvardeT erTmaneTi da yvelaze cudi mezobelic ki keTilad mogeCvenebaT. ai es aris karmuli arCevanis sworad marTva. maSin SeZlebT, icxovroT mudmivad axalgazrulad. Tqveni boroteba gRupavT Tqven da Tqveni qedmaRluri `me~ spobs Tqvens cxovrebas. aseve Tqveni mkvaxesityvaoba da ambiciebi anadgureben Tqvens irgvliv myof sayvarel adamianebsac. ar arsebobs yovlad cudi adamiani. amitom Cven zogisTvis kargi varT da zogierTisTvis-cudi. ori angelozi ibrZvis da maSin Cven vsustdebiT mTeli samyaros winaSe. am SemTxvevaSi Cveni qedmaRluri `me~. yvelaze mniSvnelovani imis damtkicebaa, rom Tqven arsebobT. es ukve sakmarisia. magram admianebi religiasac metoqeobis mizniT iyeneben da arkveven, romlis rwmena ufro WeSmaritia da vin ufro erTgulia RmerTisa. me ki vityvi: RmerTma gansajos, vin aris Rirsi am misiis tarebisa. ana lenormani (gagrZeleba momdevno nomerSi)

iuridiuli konsultacia

icodeT Tqveni uflebebis Sesaxeb

Jurnali `realoba da samyaroemigrantebi~ iwyebs axal rubrikas, romelic dagexmarebaT ukeT gaerkveT kanonis ama Tu im muxlis SinaarsSi da Tqvens sasargeblod gamoiyenoT. amjerad rubrikas gauZRveba advokati ilona RoRaZe. man 1999 wels warCinebiT daamTavra #75 skola da imave wels Caericxa Tbilisis grigol robaqiZis saxelobis universitetSi, samarTlis specialobaze. 1984 wels swavla daamTavra da iuristis kvalifikaciis miRebis Semdeg, advokatad daiwyo muSaoba. 2006 wels ilona RoRaZem saerTo samarTlis specialobiT advokatTa testirebac gaiara. biznesisa da marTvis fakultetis magistratura daamTavra da magisrtis wodebac mieniWa. aris daojaxebuli. hyavs meuRle da mcirewlovani qal-vaJi.
kiTxva: SeiZleba Tu ara Sps daafuZnoos erTma pirma? pasuxi: diax. Sps aris sazogadoeba, romlis pasuxismgebloba misi kreditorebis winaSe Semoifargleba mTeli misi qonebiT. aseTi dafuZleba SeuZlia erT pirsac. kiTxva: Cems pasports vada gauvida. SemiZlia Tu ara, vadagasuli pasportis gagrZeleba? pasuxi: saqarTvelos moqalaqis axalsimbolikiani pasportis gacemasTan dakavSirebiT, vadagasuli pasporti ar gagrZeldeba. kiTxva: SeiZleba Tu ara gaCuqebuli uZravi qonebis gamoTxova? pasuxi: SeiZleba mxolod maSin, Tu Cuqebis Semdeg mCuqebeli mZime mdgomareobaSi aRmoCndeba da ver SeZlebs sakuTari Tavis, an mis kmayofaze myofi pirebis rCenas. mas ufleba aqvs, dasaCuqrebuls mosTxovos gaCuqebuli uZravi qoneba, Tu es ukanaskneli arsebobs da qonebis dabruneba masac ar Caagdebs mZime mdgomareobaSi. kiTxva: samkvidros misaRebad memkvidreebs rodis eZlevaT samkvidro mowmoba? pasuxi: samkvidro mowmoba memkvidreebs eZlevaT samkvidros gaxsnis dRidan 6 Tvis Semdeg. am vadaze adre mowmoba gaicema mxolod im SemTxvevaSi, Tu sanotaro organos moepoveba cnoba, mowmobis momTxovn pirTa garda, sxva memkvidreebi ar arian. kiTxva: 20 welia vcxovrob TbilisSi sakuTar binaSi, romelic registrirebulia sajaro reestrSi ise, rom masze sakuTrebis ufleba ar maqvs. movipoveb Tu ara masze uflebas? pasuxi: diax. Tu piri sajaro reestrSi Setanilia uZravi qonebis mesakuTred ise, rom ar SeuZlia sakuTrebis ufleba, igi moipovebs sakuTrebis uflebas, Tu registracia arsebobs 15 wlis ganmavlobaSi da am xnis manZilze piri flobda mas, rogorc sakuTrebas. kiTxva: warmoadgens Tu ara iuridiul pirs individualuri mewarme? pasuxi: individualuri mewarme ar aris iuridiuli piri. saqmian urTierTobebSi individualuri mewarme ufleba-movaleobebs axorcielebs, rogorc fizikuri piri.

dainteresebul pirebs SeuZliaT kiTxvebi mogvawodon redaqciis eleqtronuli fostiT, an telefoniT: 24-77-57; 893-51-24-51; 895-14-51-09.

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nostalgia

germaniaSi mivxvdi, rogor myvarebia saqarTvelo!

bevri axalgazrda marto imitom ar tovebs samSoblos, rom SedarebiT ukeTesi cxovreba moiwyos. zogs surs, rom gaecnos ucxo qveynis xalxs, maTi cxovrebis wess da ufro meti ram Seityos adamianebze; Seadaros esa Tu is qveyana Tavisas da mixvdes, ra msgavseba da gansxvavebaa erebs Soris. swored am kategoriis axalgazrdobis warmomadgenels ani dangaZes gavesaubre germaniaSi misi yofnisas warmoSobil gancdebTan dakavSirebiT.
_ ani, ram gadagawyvetinaT germaniaSi wasvla da rogori iyo Tqveni gancdebi wasvlis win? _ Cemi wasvlis mTavari mizezi is iyo, rom momwons germaneli xalxi da mindoda maTTan urTierToba, ufro axlos gamecno isini da Semecno maTi cxovrebis stili, meswavla ena. ise simarTle giTxraT, rogorc aq laparakoben, germanelebi civi xalxiao, sulac ar aris swori. piriqiT, Zalian Tbilebi arian. amdenad, Cemi mizani maTi gacnoba iyo da ara fulis Sovna. _ ramdenadac me vici Tqven waxvediT specialuri programiT, romeli programa iyo? _ saswavlebeli rom davamTavre, gadawyvetili mqonda germaniaSi wasvla. davamTavre goeTes skolac da saelCoSic srulebiT ar gamWirvebia gavla. Zalian advilad wavedi. `Aupair program~-iT wavedi, romliTac ojaxi gigzavnis mowvevas bavSvis movlis mizniT. magram saqme saqmeze rom midga, Zalian SemeSinda. yvela mirCevda, rom ukan ar damexia da wavsuliyavi. _ ramdenad mZime iyo TqvenTvis nostalgia? _ saSineli nostalgia mqonda. Zalian gamiWirda, miuxedavad imisa, rom ojaxi Tbili da kargi Semxvda. magram me TviTon imxela pasuxismgebloba mqonda aRebuli, Zalian meSinoda. 5 wlis bavSvs vuvlidi. magram biZaSvili myavs germaniaSi da is damexmara, rom im garemoebas SevCveodi. ojaxic mexmareboda nostalgiis SemsubuqebaSi. davyavdi sxvadasxva adgilebSi, rom ar momewyina. ise Zalian menatreboda yvelaferi Cveneburi, qarTuli. Cven sxvanairi xalxi varT da amitomac momwons yvelaferi tradiciuli, Rrma gancdebiT. _ qarTul diasporasTan Tu gqonia urTierToba? _ aranairad ar mqonia. _ darCena Tu gicdiaT germaniaSi? _ iqaurobas rom SeveCvie, darCena mindoda. im qalaqSi qarTuli ojaxic iyo, romelsac qarTveli `operi~ sWirdeboda. magram Cemi programa mTavrdeboda da darCena ver moxerxdeboda, erTaderTi saSualeba gaTxoveba iyo. germanels namdvilad ver gavyvebodi da qarTul ojaxs ver movwydebodi. _ datovebdiT kidev saqarTvelos ramodenime wliT? _ Tu kidev iqneba wasvlis saSualeba namdvilad waval. oRond dasarCenad ara, droebiT. me Zalian miyvars Cemi samSoblo. wasvlis erT-erTi mizezi isic iyo, rom mindoda gamego, meqneboda Tu ara nostalgia. marTlac, imdenad menatreboda saqarTvelo, rom qarTul musikas CavrTavdi da vtirodi. _ ramdenad Seicvala Tqveni cxovreba ucxo qveyanaSi mgzavrobis Semdeg? _ damoukidebeli gavxdi srulebiT ucxo qveyanaSi. germaniaSi Svebuleba rom momces, qarTvelebs Sevxvdi, yvelaferi qarTuli gvqonda da saqarTvelos sadRegrZelo iseTi emociebiT davlieT, rom aq verasdros davRvriT aseT cremlebs. magram, miuxedavad am yvelafrisa, Tu aqvs adamians imis Sansi, rom wavides sazRvargareT, vurCev wavides. oRond ara dasarCenad. iq bevr rames naxavs da damoukidebel cxovrebas mieCveva, bevrs iswavlis. swored iq wasvlam damanaxa Tu rogor myvarebia Cemi samSoblo. adamianebic, vinc aq yofnisas miviwyebuli myavda, iq gamaxsenda. Tamar ulumbelaSvili

milocvebi

qristina kapanaZe

anastasia episkoposova

Cveno patara qristine, dabadebis dRes gilocavT. Zalian gvenatrebi. albaT ukve didi gogo xar da bevri ram iswavle. Soridan gkocniT da geferebiT Seni deida elene, biZa giorgi da deidaSvili ana. male CamovalT saqarTveloSi da lamaz saTamaSoebs CamogitanT. elene, giorgi, ana-saberZneTi

Jurnalis saredaqcio kolegia dabadebis dRes ulocavs anastasia episkoposovas. igi ukve ori welia mSoblebTan erTad saberZneTis erT-erT kunZulze cxovrobs. magram qarTulad laparakobs. janmrTelobas, bednier bavSvobas da samSobloSi dabrunebas vusurvebT. `realoba da samyaro-emigrantebi~

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zurikela vaSalomiZis Secvlili profesia guriasac waadgeba!

saqarTveloSi turistuli biznesi mzardi tempiT viTardeba. amas TbilisSi momravlebuli turistuli kompaniebic metyeleben. Tumca, TbilisSi leoniZis q. #4 mdebare turisturul firmas mogzaurTa klubi mimzidveli momsaxureobis garda erTi saintereso Taviseburebac axasiaTebs. misi xelmZRvaneli batoni zurab vaSalomiZe, TiTqmis, cnobili filmis prototipia. manam ki ozurgeTis sofel baxvSi dabadebulma zurikelam skolis damTavrebis Semdeg swavla politeqnikuri istitutis avtomatika da gamoTvliTi teqnikis fakultetze gaagrZela. studenturi wlebi erTi mxiaruli ambiT daiwyo: fakultetis dekani givi CixlaZe mamobrivi mzrunvelobiT ekideboda studentebs. erT dResac batoni zura gamoiZaxa. gamxdari, xuWuWTmiani, SeSinebuli biWi moridebiT dadga kuTxeSi. givi CixlaZe saTvalis zemodan RimiliT uyurebda: _ biWo, marTla zurikela xar? _hkiTxa _ ki, me var _ upasuxa biWma _ mere, bebia ar gaxlavs?! institutis ezoSi, marTlac idga bebia, wignebiT xelSi, oRond olRa ara. zurikom igi dekanatSi Seiyvana. didxans siciliT igonebdnen institutSi am ambavs. zurikos bebia, warmoSobiT poloneli qali, gvarad maSkovskaia, babuam lenindradSi gaicno, roca samxedro saswavlebelSi swavlobda. ase dasaxlda 16 wlis peterburgeli qali baxvSi. vaSalomiZeebis ojaxSi erTi uzarmazari keci aqvT, buxarTan miyudebuli. erTi xaWapuris gamosacxobad oTxkilonaxevari yvelia saWiro. aseT kecze acxobda bebia xaWapurebs. studentobis wlebSi TamaSobda institutis Teatralur dasSi, romelsac nugzar bucxrikiZe xelZRvanelobda. Tumca zurikelas roli ar uTamaSia. mogvianebiT orjer scada parlamentSi Sesvla, magram orivejer gareT darCa. Tumca, ar nanobs. radgan meuRlesTan nino cincabaZesTan erTad, romelic profesiiT eqimia SviliSvilebs _ nucasa da anastasias zrdis. maTi qaliSvili, qeTevani konfliqtologia. muSaobs mogzaurTa klubSi da rogorc firmis direqtori xumrobs, konfliqtur situacias ganmuxtavs xolme. vaJi _ aleqsandre. misi sadisertacio Tema moicavs marketindis da menejmentis sakiTxebs swored turizmis sferodan. turizmi, aviabileTebi, mogzaurobis dazRveva, sastumroebis dajavSnis msoflio qseli, dasveneba, biznesturebi, saqmiani vizitebis organizeba_ esmogzaurTa klubis momsaxurebis paketia. _ batono zura, rogor daiwyeT es saqmianoba? _ mogzaurTa klubi 2002 wels TebervalSi daibada. damfuZneblebi arian: nana ioseliani, siko gegiaZe, nino cincabaZe. _ maSin turizmi ise perspeqtiuli ar Canda. TvliT, rom riskiani xarT? _ am gadasaxedidan SemiZlia vTqva, rom riskiani var. rTul dros davaarseT firma. es is dro iyo, roca piks aRwevda social-politikuri krizisebi. turistuli bazari saintereso da momgebiani sferoa, magram mainc Zneli saqme iyo. daviwyeT aviasalaroTi, patar-patara turebi gvqonda. erToTaxian ofisSi viyavi. Semdeg gavfarTovdiT, SeviZineT teqnika. vTvlidiT, rom pirvel rigSi Sida turizmi unda gagveviTarebina, gvemuSava qarTvelebisaTvis. samwuxarod, dRes bevria iseTi qarTveli, visac fexi ar daudgams svaneTSi, TuSeTSi, xevsureTSi. ZiriTadad 2-3 dRiani turebi gvaqvs: gareji, gergeTis sameba, varZia. SekveTebs organizaciebic gvaZleven, am bolo dros gaaqtiurdnen skolebi. es bunebrivia. bavSvebma unda icodnen, sad daibadnen, ras warmoadgens maTi samSoblo. xelSekrulebiT agvyavs profesionali gidebi, urTirToba gvaqvs satrasporto kompaniebTan. Semodgomaze aqtualuria kaxeTi, zafxulSiTuSeTi da xevsureTi. svaneTs sami dRe mainc unda, rom naxo, SeigrZno da Seicno. samxreT saqarTveloSi: varZia, borjomi. gvaqvs turebi lagodexis nakrZalSi, paliastomis tbaze. kargi saqme gaakeTa garemos dacvis saministrom, roca daculi teritoriebis mimarT gaamkacra wesebi. amiT uzrunvelyo turistuli marSutebis aqtiuroba. _ pirvelad ucxoeTis romel qveyanaze gaxvediT? _ Cveni pirveli turi safrangeTi iyo, iq gvyavs kargi partniori franguli firma. 2009 weli aleqsandre diumas saiubileo welia. gadawyvetili gvaqvs erToblivi turis Catareba frangi mwerlis sapativsacemulod. dRes Cven kavSiri gvaqvs msoflios yvela im qveyanasTan, romlebic turistuli TvalsazrisiT sainteresoa: brazilia, argentina, safrangeTi, italia, germania, espaneTi, holandia, saberZneTi, israeli, indoeTi, tailandi, indonezia, egvipte, arabTa gaerTianebuli emiratebi. vapirebT aviTvisoT maroko da tunisi. qarTvel mogzaurebs, vinc icis karTagenis istoria, finikelebi, aucileblad daainteresebs es qveynebi. ukve tradiciad iqca israelSi saaRdgomo turi. noemberSi ki giorgobis dResaswaulisTvis turi ierulisalimis axlos wminda giorgis taZarSi gvaqvs-xolme. _ gansakuTrebiT romeli kurortebi itacebs

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qarTvelebs? _ qarTvelebis yvelaze didi nakadi TurqeTisken miemarTeba. udavoa, rom zRvispira kurortebSi TurqeTi wamyvani qveyanaa, Tanac CvenTvis uvizo. antaliis yureSi sxvadasxva klasis sastumroebia, momsaxureobis umaRlesi doniT. arc egvipteSi wamsvlelTaTvisaa problema vizis miReba. igi kairos aeroportSi gamSveb punqtSi formdeba. egvipte ufro dasaTvaliereblad ainteresebT, TurqeTi ki _ dasasveneblad. Cvens kompanias yovelwliurad aqvs Carteruli reisebi antaliis mimarTulebiT, vgegmavT bodrumis mimarTulebasac. gvaqvs zamTris kurortebic: bulgareTi, avstria, gudauri da bakuriani. _ am bolo dros xSirad gaigonebT, rom saqarTvelos zRvispira kurortebi ufro Zviria, vidre TurqeTisa... _ samwuxarod, asea. SeiZleba sityva Zviri mTlad ar Seeferebodes situacias. sastumroebi, momsaxureoba, komforti, ris saSualebasac dRes Cveni infrastruqtura gvaZlevs, ar Seefardeba Cvens mier gaRebul Tanxas. praqtikulad, adamianebs urCevniaT, iq wavidnen dasasveneblad, sadac srulyofili servisia, magram visac samkurnalo TvisebebiT aRWurvili ureki, qobuleTi, baTumi sWirdeba, igi ar wava sxvagan. Cveni zRvispireTi xSirnaleqiania. antaliis yureSi ki eqvsi Tvis ganmavlobaSi unaleqo amindi garantirebulia. _ ar gifiqriaT imaze, rom Tqveni SeTavazezebi fufunebaa im qveynis moqalaqeebisTvis, romlebic siRaribes ebrZvian XXI saukuneSi? _ rogor giTxraT, ar mimaCnia paradoqsulad Cveni SeTavazezebi, radgan arian adamianebi, romlebic kargad gamoimuSaveben, Sromoben, amitom Tavis Tavs uflebas aZleven, daisvenon. vakvirdebi, bolo ori welia, qarTvelebi mieCvivnen winaswar dagegmon Svebuleba. Tumca, arian adamianebi, romlebic Tavis Tavs ver aZleven amis uflebas. _ ras sTavazobT am adamianebs? _ wels Cven gvqonda specialuri SeTavazeba studentebisa da axalgazrda ojaxebisTvis _ 700 lariani, anu 400 dolariani turi antaliaSi samvarskvlavian sastumroSi. amaSi Sedioda mgzavroba aqedan avtobusiT, iqidan TviTmfrinaviT. aTi Rame oTxjeradi kvebiT. samasormocdaaTi adamiani wavida dasasveneblad. dameTanxmebiT, Semosavliani adamianebisTvises ar aris didi Tanxa. gvqonda agreTve kombinirebuli turebi TurqeTis mimarTulebiT. samxreT saqarTveloSi avtobuss xvdeboda Cveni warmomadgeneli da ori dRis ganmavlobaSi mogzaurebi

turizmi

tao-klarjeTs aTvalierebdnen, TurqeTidan ukan TviTmfrinaviT brundebodnen. es turs 150 lariT aZvirebda. _ turebis ideebi vis ekuTvnis? _ damfuZvneblebs, anu Cven. kvexnaSi nu CamomarTmevT da maRalkvalificiuri TanamSromlebi gvyavs. arCevani didia. Cven TviTon yovelwliurad vakeTebT sainformacio turs, vagzavniT TanamSromlebs TurqeTSi. isini aTvaliereben sastumroebs, moipoveben informacias, yvela SemTxvevaSi klietebTan xelSekruleba formdeba. Cveni Turqi partniori odeon tursi dRes TurqeTis bazarze umsxvilesi kompaniaa, romelic weliwadSi erT milion damsvenebels iRebs. _ ramdenad Camoyalibda saqarTveloSi servisi? _jerjerobiT ver davikvexniT. Sors varT srulyofilebisagan. Wirs kargi menejeri, Tumca Zalian niWieri axalgazrdoba modis. kompaniaSi staJirebaze mosul studentebTan urTierToba amis dasturia. yoveldRiurad axals unda eZebde. cxovreba viTardeba, msoflio pataravdeba, moTxovnileba izrdeba, Tu siaxles ar SevTavazebT damkveTs, Semosavali ar gveqneba. marTalia, maRali klasis sastumroebi jerjerobiT TbilisSi gvaqvs mxolod, magram aris Zalian kargi proeqti aWaris sazRvao zolis ganviTarebisaTvis. Cven SevZlebT SevqmnaT iseTi struqtura, rac mimzidveli iqneba ara marto qarTveli damsveneblisTvis. _ rogori damokidebuleba gaqvT konkurentebTan? _ konkurenciis gareSe nebismieri saqme mokvdeba. Cveni konkurentebi Zlieri da seriozuli firmebia. Cvenc jansaRi konkurenciis momxre varT. wels pirvelad, mogzaurTa klubi, leon Treveli, interkonintinentali TurqeTis mimarTulebiT erToblivi Carterul reiss vTavazobT damkveTs. _ batoni zurab, Tqven Tavad romel qveyanaSi isvenebT-xolme? _ Cems mSobliur sofelSi _ baxvSi, mSoblebTan. ucxo qveynebidan kuba momwons yvelaze metad. iq 1979 wels viyavi axalgazrdul festivalze, magram dedamiwaze ar aris saqarTvelos badali adgili gansakuTrebiT, guria! es is samoTxea, msoflios yvela kuTxidan mosulma adamianma rom aucileblad unda moinaxulos, maT Soris qarTvelebmac! esaubra naTia gogitiZe

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Turme, Zvel spartaSi, xelisufalTa brZanebiT, erT-erT moxeles evaleboda damTvraliyo da qalaqis quCebSi barbaciT exetiala. es TvalsaCino gakveTili unda yofiliyo yvelasaTvis, Tu ra samarcxvinoa simTvrale. dRes, samwuxarod, Cvens qalaqSi uxvad ixilavT (Tanac, yovelgvari direqtivebis gareSe) mobarbace Cvens Tanamoqalaqeebs. `qronikuli nabaxusevi~, ufro sworad, `paxmelia~ maTi cxovrebis wesi gaxda. fsiqologebi am tipis `masiur Trobas~ ase xsnian: qarTveli mamakacebi veRar asruleben ojaxis ufrosis funqcias, radgan `Semomtanis~ roli qals daekisra. aravin moityuos Tavi (arc sxvisi motyueba scados), rom saqarTvelo Rvinis da vazis qveyanaa da aq Tamadis institutis, an sufris

visaTvis `siraqlemaseuls pozas~ irCeven? adre, rogorc saubarSi vaxsenebT xolme, im Zvel, karg droSi adamianis ukeT gasacnobad, saqarTveloSi kacs sufraze epatiJebodnen, raTa misi namdvili saxe daenaxaT, dRes ki, sufrisa da misi tradiciebisa ra mogaxsenoT da, lamis yoveldRe, qalaqis TiTqmis yvela ubanSi vxedavT `qseroaslebiviT~ erTnair suraTs: x e sTa n Ca cucq ul `Ta na me ina x eebs~ pirze miyudebuli aryisa Tu ludis boTliT da am formiT maTi `gacnoba, Tu amocnoba~ arcTu Znelia...zog SemTxvevaSi, am movlenis mizezi Cveneburi, araswori aRzrdac xdeba _ saqarTveloSi xom `Svilebi~ didxans rCebian `bavSvebad~, amdenad, `cxovrebiseuli rubikonebis~ winaSe mamakacebis usu-

fxizeli gonebiT msjeloba masiuri Trobis fonze

tradiciebis gamo, alkoholizmi masiur erovnul ubedurebad ar iqceva. saubedurod, ukve mivuaxlovdiT am zRvars, winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, saqarTveloSi ar iqneboda aqtualuri iseTi organizaciebis Seqmnis aucilebloba, romelTa mizani `ojaxuri Zaladobis winaaRmdeg~ brZolaa. amgvarma agresiam rom imata, amis dasturad isic gamodgeba, rom msgavsi tipis organizaciebis ricxvi matulobs da es CvenTan, ~Rvinisa da vazis qveyanaSi~, sadac qalze xelis aRmarTva yovelTvis gaugonar laCrobad da danaSaulad iTvleboda... magram Tu amgvar faqtebs jiutad uarvyofT, maSin ra movuxerxoT sakuTar Tvalebs, yoveldRiurad rom xedaven ojaxebSi, samezobloSi, quCaSi saxe da Rirsebadakargul nacnobebs an, Tundac, ucnobebs?! an iqneb, realurad arsebuli, mZime socialur-ekonomiuri situaciidan gamomdinare, Rrma depresiiT gavamarTloT maTi qceva, mavanTa msgavsad `socialur kastratebad~ movnaTloT isini da komentariT _ `ras izam, aseTi droa~ davasruloT yvelaferi? (`o, tempra o, mores?..~) iqneb, yvelas fsiqika marTla ver uZlebs amgvar arasaxarbielo sasicocxlo (ufro zustad, sasicocxlod arasaxarbielo) fons da isinic sinamdvilisagan gaqcesurobas (aqedan gamomdinare, maTi alkoholiT gatacebas), garkveul SemTxvevaSi, es faqtoric gansazRvravs, magram amaze msjeloba Sors wagviyvans... sxvaTa Soris, am bolo dros aseTi Tvalsazrisic gavrcelda, rom Turme, alkoholi adamianebze ufro fsiqologiur gavlenas axdens, vidre fiziologiurs(!) ver getyviT, amis Taobaze ras ityoda omar xaiami, magram, radgan sityvam moitana, erTi pativcemuli adamianis pozicias aucileblad gagacnobT: filologiur mecnierebaTa doqtori, profesori mixeil qurdiani didi xania cnobilia baxusisadmi Taviseburi, aratradiciuli midgomiT. igi ualkoholo sasmeliT qeifis momxre iyo yovelTvis da am sakiTxze sakuTari filosofiuri doqtrinac ki aqvs SeumuSavebuli... axla, isev davubrundeT problemas, romlis aSkara aRiareba ar gvsurs Cvenive mentalitetidan gamomdinare... arada, aucilebelia, movifiqroT da vipovoT gza, romelic amoiyvans erT dros marTlac karg, niWier, magram gzaabneul biWebs am Waobidan... dasmul sakiTxze azris gamoTqma vTxoveT TbiliselebisaTvis metad sayvarel adamians, mweral gizo niSnianiZes: _ ra giTxraT, axla iseTi dro dadga, qalebs ufro aqvT gasaqani _ yavas aduRebineben, saqmes akeTebineben. arada, saqarTveloSi matriarqati arasodes iqneba: kaci kaci iqneba da qali _ qali.!. rodesac Cveni kacebi ufunqciod darCnen, saxlidan jer nardi gamoitanes, mere _ sasmeli. adre Tu Rvinos svamdnen, axla ludze gadavidnen da veRar eSvebian... gauTavebeli `paxmelia~ aqvT. isic unda iTqvas, rom qarTveli kaci xelisbiWad mainc ar iqceva!.. is Znelad Tu Caiqnevs xels da sanam ase momxdara, saxelmwifo institutebma unda ifiqron am sakiTxze _ daubrunon qarTvel kacs dakarguli funqcia, Tanac, yvelam viciT, loTobas narkomania mosdevs, narkomanias ki _ ufro didi saSineleba...~ da sanam yvela tipis saSineleba masiurad ar qceula, raRac unda Seicvalos, yovel SemTxvevaSi, Tavdapirvelad imis winapiroba mainc unda Seiqmnas, rom quCaSi aRar vixiloT mudmivad mobarbace, Rirsebaayrili mamakacebi, rom isini kvlav Tavaweulebi daabijebdnen, rom isev erTad vizrunoT ojaxze da roca saWiro iqneba, maTTan erTad TiTo Wiqac avwioT, rom sicocxlisa da siyvarulis maradiulobis sadRegrZelo SevsvaT! mzia gogniaSvili

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