Group 1
Message: #3 From: Message: #16
Press
Dec 20, 2001 06:58
The first question is for all Groups:
Industrialization transformed the
countries and cultures of Europe and
America in many ways. Today, many
countries around the world are to develop
viable industrial economies. Mexico is a
dramatic example. Not everyone in such
countries welcomes the change.
In your opinion, what are the
advantages and disadvantages of
industrialization? Please be specific when
you answer. And feel free to cite current
as well as historical examples.
The Press respectfully awaits your
response.
Message: #19
From: Press
Dec 20, 2001 16:47 response to message
#16:
Good. You bring up some excellent
problems with industrialization, especially
as seen today. What were some of the
problems historically with
industrialization, in particular in reference
to children?
Message: #40
From: Press
Dec 20, 2001 17:02
The press respectfully awaits a
response to the effects of industrialization
historically, especially in relevance to
children.
From:
Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 16:45 response to message
#3:
Some advantages of industrilization
are more places for people to work and
live. Since the towns will grow it will give
people more oppurtunities for working
and living. Some disadvantages are
overcrowdedness, poor living conditions,
and pollution. While being industrialized,
more important situations are overlooked
such as those problems.
Message: #44
From: Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 17:06
In response to Press's message #19:
Some problems historically in
reference to children there is currently 8-
22 million child workers in Mexico. They
work on jobs such as factories,
sweatshops, farms and on the street.
Their ages range from 15 and under. In
the 1800`s children as young as 10 years
old from 6 in the morning to 8 at night.
The children were forced to work because
of their families lack of income. Many of
the children worked in factories and
 mines. Since they were so young they
usually were not able to work the
machinery correctly and were often
mutulated or killed by the machinery
because they weren`t able to operate the
machines in the correct manner. THe
children signed a contract that basically
made them the property of the factory
owner. If they disobeyed they were
usually fined of their already small
salary`s or beaten.

Message: #45 Message: #67

From: Press From: Mexico

Dec 20, 2001 17:08 response to message Dec 20, 2001 17:21 response to message
#44: #45:
In 1833, the Parliament passed the
Thank you for a comprehensive Factory Act. The new law made it illegal to
response. What effect did unions have on hire children under 9 years old. Children
the change in working conditions? from the ages of 9 to 13 were not to work
more than 8 hours a day. Children from
the ages of 14 to 18 could not be required
to work more than 12 hours. In 1842, the
Mines Act placed similar limits on the
work of children in mining.
Message: #66 : Press Message: #67
From: Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 17:21 1:
Dec 20, 2001 17:21 response to message
The Press respectfully awaits a #45:
response. In 1833, the Parliament passed the
Factory Act. The new law made it illegal to
hire children under 9 years old. Children
from the ages of 9
Children from the ages of 14 to 18 could
not be required to work more than 12
hours. In1842, the Mines Act placed
similar limits on the work of children in
mining.
Message: #68 Message: #73
From: Press From: Mexico

Dec 20, 2001 17:22 response to
message #67:
You are accurate in saying that
Parliament passed laws to protect
children, but I am still unclear as to what
the role of unions was in the change in
working conditions. How did unions
Dec 20, 2001 17:30 response to
message #68:
The unions figured out that they had
strength in numbers. They used this
strength to help raise wages and improve
working conditions. Because of their
change working conditions in general? numbers they could strike or refuse to
work.
Message: #77 Message: #85
From: Press From: Mexico

Dec 20, 2001 17:33 response to Dec 20, 2001 17:42 response to
message #73: message #77:
Thank you for clarifying. Let`s look at Some coutries are not indutrialized
some other parts of industrialization. because certain countries don`t have well
Although we often think of the world as stocked food supplies, small work forces,
mostly industrialized, there are still many and they have a shortage of people with
nations that are not industrialized. Why is money to invest in the idea. Another
industrialization not universal across the reason is that they don`t have major
globe? inventions to industrialize around. These
are some reasons why some countries
don`t advance.
Message: #87 From: Press Message: #95 From Mexico
From: Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 17:45 response to
message #85: Dec 20, 2001 17:55 response to
I see. You mentioned that these non- message #87:
industrialized countries have not Yes, we do believe that countries should
advanced. Given what you know about industrilize. Industrial growth brings about
industrialization, do you believe it is technology, inventions and progress
better for a country to industrialize or not? causing there to be more suitable living
Explain your response. and working conditions. Some methods of
industrialization are large labor forces,
abundant resources, favorable locations
for trade, developed banking systems,and
political stability.
Message: #97 Message: #102 From:
From: Press Mexico

Dec 20, 2001 17:57 response to Dec 20, 2001 18:00 response to
message #95: message #97:
Thank you. Since you favor Some advice we would give to new
industrialization and you are aware of the countries who are industrializing are don`t
effects of industrialization, what advice be afraid of change because it will end up
you would provide countries that are being a good thing.
beginning to industrialize now?
Message: #106 From: Press

Dec 20, 2001 18:01 response to

message #102:

I was hoping for a more detailed

response, but let`s move on. Where did
industrialization begin and why did it
begin there?
Message: #109 From: Press

Dec 20, 2001 18:03

The Press would like to thank the
delegates for their sustained and careful
attention and for the serious effort to
respond to our questions.
we found your responses very
informative. We hope that we’ßll meet
with you again and discuss other topics.
We enjoyed the exchange.

The Members of the Press

Group 2
Message: #3 From: Press
Dec 20, 2001 06:58
The first question is for all Groups:
Industrialization transformed the
countries and cultures of Europe and
America in many ways. Today, many
countries around the world are just
beginning to develop viable industrial
economies. Mexico is a dramatic example.
Not everyone in such countries welcomes
the change.
In your opinion, what are the
advantages and disadvantages of
industrialization? Please be specific when
you answer. And feel free to cite current
as well as historical examples.
The Press respectfully awaits your
response.
Message: #31
From: Press
Dec 20, 2001 16:57 response to
message #25:
Thank you for that wonderfully
detailed and thoughtful answer. You are
right about all of these affects. What
political affects did industrialization have?
Does industrialization change a country’s
relationship with other countries? If so,
how?
The Press
Message: #25 From:
Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 16:53
We have agreed that the advantages
of industrialzation are: more advanced
technology, more people with jobs, more
products produced, more money for the
economy, it keeps citizens off the streets,
and the population will increase
substantially. The disadvantages are: the
enviornment will slowly erode, because of
the increase in factories and the use
harmful chemicals that will affect the
surrounding animal and plant life. Also the
wealth will not be distributed as evenly,
the poor will get poorer, and the rich will
get richer. They will turn to children and
women for cheaper labor, as the factories
expand. These things happened in the
industrial revolution of North America, and
Great Britain.
Message: #48 From:
Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 17:11
Some of the political effects of the
industrial revolution are as follows : If
there was a leader in office while the
industrial revolution progressed then it
would make the leader look better in the
eyes of the country and the people would
rally under his support. Then surrounding
countries would become drastically
influenced from the ideas and the
inventions of the industrialized country.
They would see the progression and
improvement in their economy and
technology and try to adopt their systems.
As this spreads, most of the surrounding
countries would improve their own
systems and soon everybody would be
caught up in the industrial revolution.
Through there are different a country can
go about industrializing (i.e keeping their
progression a secret, as Great Britain did
by not allowing their engineers to leave

Message: #53
From: Press
Dec 20, 2001 17:14 response to
message #48:
Excellent response. You clearly have
a good understanding of these complex
events. Let me ask though, if
industrialization is fated to spread, why
are there still many countries in the world
that have yet to really industrialize?
Message: #74 From: Press
Dec 20, 2001 17:31 response to
message #71:
Good; thank you. We’ve talked about
the effects of industrialization and why
some countries have had trouble
industrializing, but why do some countries
industrialize, especially in some of the
early countries? What factors led to
industrialization in Great Britain and the
US, for instance?
the country) this wouldn`t stay a secret
for long because of spys or tourists or an
engineer escaping from the country. The
government electoral candidates would
use the issues of Child Labor and
underpaid Women laborers as leverage for
their campaign, preaching change and
better ways to find labor, but they would
not follow through on their promises
because to change all that would mean to
change the whole way their economy
works.
Message: #71 From: Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 17:26
Some countries are still far in debt,
or they just don`t have the money so they
cant industrialize. Some are still
consumed by old religious beliefs and are
not willing to change and givin to new
systems and ideas, and some are so held
back by their government that they don’t
have the oppurtunity to agree or disagree
with outside influences. For instens
communist societies like Cuba, the
government will not allow new
technological advances. In other countries
they are dealing with civil wars, and
outside aggressors that they do not have
the time o resources to industrialize.
Message: #88 From:
Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 17:46
When the population increased they
were faced with problems about the lack
of jobs, the shortage of food and poor
living conditions, so they needed to come
up with ways to solve this problem. They
started to build factories, especialy the
older countries, because they were
around the longest and they knew what
worked and what didn`t. So they got the
idea of industrialization that would be
better for the economy and the people.
Great Britan and North America had an
abundant source of natural resources and
a favorable geography. It started out with
crop rotations and it improved livestock,
then there was a rise in population
political stability and a good banking
system, then finaly inventuly new

Message: #89 From: Press
Dec 20, 2001 17:50 response to
message #88:
Thank you for that good and
informative answer. You talked earlier
about some of the negative affects of
industrialization. What actions did
governments (and societies) take to try
and deal with these affects? How
successful were these efforts?
Message: #109 From: Press
Dec 20, 2001 18:03
The Press would like to thank the
delegates for their sustained and careful
attention and for the serious effort to
respond to our questions. we found your
responses very informative. We hope that
weÕll meet with you again and discuss
other topics. We enjoyed the exchange.
The Members of the Press
Group 3
Message: #3 From: Press
Dec 20, 2001 06:58
The first question is for all Groups:
Industrialization transformed the
countries and cultures of Europe and
America in many ways. Today, many
countries around the world are just
beginning to develop viable industrial
economies. Mexico is a dramatic example.
Not everyone in such countries welcomes
the change.
In your opinion, what are the
advantages and disadvantages of
industrialization? Please be specific when
you answer. And feel free to cite current
as well as historical examples.
The Press respectfully awaits your
response.
Message: #39 From: Press
Dec 20, 2001 17:02
Thank you for your specific response,
especially the example you gave of
inventions revolutionized the world of
indistry, and one inventoin led to another.
Message: #104 From: Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 18:00
This will probably be our last
response, the gov. put out the factory acts
of 1833 and 1844, in order to decrease
the the amount of child labor. the 1833
act stated that no cild under the age of 9
could work, and the 1844 act stated that
no child under the age of 8 could work.
But buisness`s did not listen to them, so
they with help from Great Britain, they
founded the International Labor
Orginization (ILO), which worked to
protect the rights of women and children
around the world. We think it was founded
in 1919, or 1903. They made striking legal
again, so the underpaid and over worked
people can demand better rights. Thank
you for your questions, we were very
pleased with your interest in us.
Message: #34 From:
Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 16:59 response to
message #3:
Some advantages of industrialization
are more products produced faster, more
money made because of selling products,
and workers are having better lives
because of the technology and machines.
Some of the disadvantages are pollution,
because it effects us and also the animals
and environment. Also there could be less
jobs because of the machinery. For
example in Great Britian the community
started off very small with few businesses
but over time it became very
industrialized.
Message: #47 From:
Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 17:10
Industrialization isn`t always better
for the workers because sometimes the
Britain. I`m interested in your comment
that workers have better lives because of
industrialization. Is this always the case?
Message: #52 From: Press
Dec 20, 2001 17:13
Thank you, it is true that
industrialization can be very hard for
workers. How are children affected?
The Press
Message: #65 From: Press
Dec 20, 2001 17:20
Thank you for your comprehensive
response. What methods have been used
to push for change in the working
conditions of factories?
The Press
Message: #75 From: Press
Dec 20, 2001 17:32
Thank you for your thoughtful
comments. It appears life can be very
hard for workers in the cities. Why and
how did cities evolve in the first place?
The Press
machines take over their jobs, therefore
leaving people jobless. The machines can
sometimes lead to fatal accidents, as well.
Message: #63 From:
Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 17:19
Children are affected by
industrialization because factories need
workers and the children need money to
help support their families. They have to
work long hours under harsh working
conditions. The factories get most of their
child labor from orphanages and poor
families. The children that work are
unable to get an education, so it is hard to
break the cycle for thier children. Also, the
children get paid 1/7 of every dollar a man
makes. The female children have more
work, especcially around the home, than
boys.
Message: #72 From: Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 17:30
Some of the changes being made in the
factories are some of the ages of children
are not so low, and the unsanitary
working condition as
there used to be in the past.
On the other hand some of the things
that need to be changed are women and
children are still paid less and should be
paid more equally. Also chilrdren either
lack or have no educational background.
International labor organizatoin forms
international standered for better working
and living conditions.
Message: #81 From: Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 17:41
The cities started off as really small
villages and as other villages turned into
cities the others got in the race for money
and power. Population and demand for
workers lead to people leaving their
homes and farms to find buisness in the
city.
Message: #91From: Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 17:53
 We have been pushing NEW
CONFERENCE MESSAGES and can`t get
any response except for group 2. What did
we do wrong?????????
Message: #94 From: Press Message: #99 From:
Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 17:54
Dec 20, 2001 17:58
Perhaps there were no messages for
awhile. Please respond to the question The cities started off as really small
regarding the evolution of cities. How did villages and as other villages turned into
they come about? cities the others got in the race for money
The Press and power. Population growth and
demand for workers lead to peole leaving
their homes and farms in search of work.
Message: #105 From: Press

Dec 20, 2001 18:00

Thank you for your general response.

More specifically, can you explain the
three phases of development that led to
the creation of modern day cities?
The Press
Message: #109 From: Press

Dec 20, 2001 18:03

The Press would like to thank the
delegates for their sustained and careful
attention and for the serious effort to
respond to our questions. we found your
responses very informative. We hope that
weÕll meet with you again and discuss
other topics. We enjoyed the exchange.

The Members of the Press

Group 4
Message: #3 From: Press
Dec 20, 2001 06:58
The first question is for all Groups:
Industrialization transformed the
countries and cultures of Europe and
America in many ways. Today, many
countries around the world are just
beginning to develop viable industrial
economies. Mexico is a dramatic example.
Not everyone in such countries welcomes
the change.
In your opinion, what are the
advantages and disadvantages of
industrialization? Please be specific when
you answer. And feel free to cite current
as well as historical examples.
The Press respectfully awaits your
response.
Message: #36 From: Press
Dec 20, 2001 16:59 response to
message #30:
Thank you, those are good points.
Did industrialization have any political
affects? Does it change a country’s
relations with other countries?
If so, how?
The Press
Message: #61 From: Press
Dec 20, 2001 17:18 response to
message #54:
Those are good examples. But more
broadly, how are relations between
nations affected when they have reached
different levels of industrialization?
The Press
Message: #30 From:
Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 16:55 response to
message #3:
The advantages of industrialization would
be that there are more job oppertunities,it
would help the economy, increase trade in
general,and
increase technology . The
disadvantages are over population,
polution, and the amount of homeless
people increase in number.
Message: #54 From:
Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 17:15 response to
message #36:
sorry we forgot
Yes industrialization had political
effects. An example is the lawsuits against
the globalization of Nike having
underaged and underpaid children
working in factories. Mexico is breaking
rules of NAFTA because of these
underaged workers and bad working
conditions and bad working conditions.
Message: #78 From: Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 17:38 response to
message #61:
Industrialization is the same as
globalization. Globalization is the
expanding of businesses over countries.
For example, McDonald`s. Initialy, it
began in the United states, then it grew to
what it is now. Currently there are
McDonald`s every country.
Message: #83 From: Press Message: #90 From: Mexico

Dec 20, 2001 17:41 response to Dec 20, 2001 17:52 response to #84:
message #78: For most part globalization is the
That doesn’t quite answer the larger more advanced, version of
question, but let’s look at the response industrialism. Globalization covers more
anyway. I agree that globalization is the land more buisnesses and more
expanding of business among people. Globalization is similar to
many countries (globalization is also Pacman if you will.Pacman will be the
a cultural communication phenomenon), business consuming other businesses.
but is that the same as industrialization? Whereas industrialism is the
Could you please growth of the business.
explain the difference between the
two terms?
Message: #92 From: Press Message: #103 From:
Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 17:53 response to
message #90: Dec 20, 2001 18:00 response to
message #93:
You talked earlier about some of the
negative affects of industrialization. What America went into mexico with nafta
actions did governments (and societies) to tell them to inforce their labor laws.
take to try and deal with these affects?
How successful were these efforts?
The Press
Message: #108 From: Press

Dec 20, 2001 18:02 response to

message #103:

What actions did governments take

within their own countries to lessen the
negative effects of industrialization?
Message: #109 From: Press

Dec 20, 2001 18:03

The Press would like to thank the
delegates for their sustained and careful
attention and for the serious effort to
respond to our questions. we found your
responses very informative. We hope that
weÕll meet with you again and discuss
other topics. We enjoyed the exchange.

The Members of the Press

Group 5
Message: #3 From: Press
Dec 20, 2001 06:58
The first question is for all Groups:
Industrialization transformed the
countries and cultures of Europe and
America in many ways. Today, many
countries around the world are just
beginning to develop viable industrial
economies. Mexico is a dramatic example.
Not everyone in such countries welcomes
the change.
In your opinion, what are the
advantages and disadvantages of
industrialization? Please be specific when
you answer. And feel free to cite current
as well as historical examples.
The Press respectfully awaits your
response.
Message: #32 From: Press
Dec 20, 2001 16:57
Thank you for your extremely
thoughtful answer. One other factor to
consider when discussing industrialization
is the working conditions
for laborers. What were conditions
like during the Industrial Revolution in
England?
The Press
Message: #42 From: Press
Dec 20, 2001 17:03
Thank you for your response. The
conditions for children certainly can be
terrible. Are men and women also affected unions were illegal. Self-employed workers
by factory work? If so, how?
The Press
Message: #50 From: Press Message: #55
Message: #27 From:
Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 16:54 response to
message #3:
Some disadvantages of
Industrialization are, when cities become
industrialized, population begins to grow
which leads to overcrowding and that
causes water/air pollution, crime, poor
housing, and unsanitary living conditions.
Some advantages of Industrialization are
that, since theres faster production,
economic growth, and openings for jobs, it
provides a variety of work for many
different people. And when theres more
people, that means more production.
Therefore the community has more
money to provide help for those in need.
Message: #38 From:
Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 17:01 response to
message #19:
When factories become more
successful in other countries where
humane laws are not strongly enforced,
then the factories hire children at very low
pay and take advantage of them. They are
forced to work because their family has no
other way to make money and the
children are forced to work in horrible
working conditions to live. They drop out
of school and lose their chance to have a
succesful job by their lack of education.
Message: #46 From: Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 17:09
England protested low wages, long hours,
unsafe conditions and the constant threat
of unemployment even though strikes and
were being replaced by factories and
machines by many industries. Since they
knew that one person standing for his/her
opinion they would create a large group of
men to form "labor unions."
From:

Dec 20, 2001 17:12
Thank you for your response.
Remember too that during the Industrial
Revolution women were often forced to
take on the double responsibility of
working in a factory and at home. Your
comments about unions are very
interesting. Who was the group in England
that was particularly famous and why?
Message: #59 From: Press
Dec 20, 2001 17:17
Thank you for your excellent
response regarding the conditions for
women during the Industrial Revolution.
What were the methods of
change for working conditions in
factories? Please refer to a specific group
in England.
The Press
Message: #70 From: Press
Dec 20, 2001 17:26
Thank you for your impressive
answer. The International Labor
Organization is a very interesting group.
Remember that one of the first groups
working for change during the Industrial
Revolution was the Luddites. It sounds as
though there are many drawbacks for
people to live and work in cities. Why and
how did cities evolve in the first place?
The Press
Message: #82
From:
Press
Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 17:15
Factory work made special problems
for women. Their jobs took them out of
their home life for 12 hours or more a day.
For women it was harder to make a living
because they made less then what men
made. Also, women`s choices for work
were limited to textile factories, piece
work shops and domestic service.
Message: #69 From:
Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 17:23
The International Labor Organization
was founded in 1919. The purpose of it
was to make working and living conditions
better. They worked on underemployment,
working conditions, technological change,
economic development, and international
economic competition.
Message: #80 From:
Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 17:39
There were three phases to the
process of developing cities. The first
phase began with settlements that grew
larger. The settlements depended on
domesticated animals and agriculture.
The settlements also attracted many
different people ranging from merchants
to government officials. The second phase
came with the industrial revolution in
Europe. People were constantly looking for
employment and a way to a better life.
Since the industrial revolution, cities have
grown tremendously in size. The third
phase began after WWII. As the world
economy grew largely in size and became
more international cities from all over the
world began to grow larger, very quickly.
Message: #93 From: Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 17:54
Dec 20, 2001 17:41 Imperialism is the policy practice or
To: Mexico advocacy of extending the power and
GRP 5 dominion of a nation. The goal of
Thank you for your excellent imperialism is the search for profit and
response. Why did countries around the industrialization made it possible for
world develop differently? Please explain Europeans to produce large surpluses of
the relationship between manufactured goods. Certain countries
imperialism and industrialization in were often politicaly unstable, so they
your response. would not develope at the same rate as
The Press other countries. Some countries did not
have the same resources as others, which
also contributed to them developing at
different rates.
Message: #96 From: Press Message: #98
Dec 20, 2001 17:56 From:
Thank you for your detailed response. Mexico
Could you please explain the economic
relationship between industrial powers Dec 20, 2001 17:58
and their colonies? Use a specific example GRP 5
if possible. please be more specific
Message: #101 From: Press

Dec 20, 2001 17:59

I apologize if you did not understand

the question. Allow me to rephrase. Who
benefitted the most from imperialism and
why?
The Press
Message: #109 From: Press

Dec 20, 2001 18:03

The Press would like to thank the
delegates for their sustained and careful
attention and for the serious effort to
respond to our questions. we found your
responses very informative. We hope that
weÕll meet with you again and discuss
other topics. We enjoyed the exchange.

The Members of the Press

Group 6
Message: #3 From: Press

Dec 20, 2001 06:58

The first question is for all Groups:

Industrialization transformed the

countries and cultures of Europe and
America in many ways. Today, many
countries around the world are just
beginning to develop viable industrial
economies. Mexico is a dramatic example.
Not everyone in such countries welcomes
the change.
In your opinion, what are the
advantages and disadvantages of
industrialization? Please be specific when
you answer. And feel free to cite current
as well as historical examples.

The Press respectfully awaits your

response.
Message: #33 From: Press Message: #41 From: Mexico

Dec 20, 2001 16:59 Dec 20, 2001 17:02

GR #6: GRP6
The Press respectfully waits for your *sorry, we forgot our group number,
first response. here is the message again.
The Press The advantages of Industrialization
are that more products are produced,
there is more money circulating in the
economy, it helps develop technology (for
exampe, the invention and employment of
the Cotton Gin and Steam Engine), and it
rockets a country`s economy because as
more products are produced, there is
more trade with other countries. The
disadvantages of Industrialization are that
as more successful entrepeneurs and
businessmen become successful, the
hardworking laborers in the factories
become more underpaid, and poverty in
the community rises. Also with more and
more factories being built, pollution at
extreme levels is unavoidable, and the
environment is greatly damaged.
Message: #43From: Press Message: #58 From: Mexico
Dec 20, 2001 17:05 response to
message #41: Dec 20, 2001 17:17

Thank you. Your answer sets forth the
generally accepted trends of the effects of
industrialization. Do you have any specific
information on how employment rates
before and after countries have
industrialized -- that is -- swtiched from
agrarian to industrial economies? What
eveidence is there that industrialization
increases employment?
Message: #64 From: Press
- Employment rates were low before
Industrialization, because most people
lived at home and worked their farms.
When industrialization began, it created
more jobs because large factories needed
laborers, and people moved into the city
to work in the factories.

Dec 20, 2001 17:19 response to

message #58:

Thank you. Isn;t your refernce to people

working on farms an indication that
people were in fact employed? ANd that
industrialization just creatd new kinds of
jobs -- but not necessarily more? What
evidence do you have that idustrialization
/ globalization improves standards of
living for developing countries? Any
indicators, for example, such as life
expectancy or infant mortality rates?
Message: #76 From: Press Message: #79 From: Mexico

Dec 20, 2001 17:32 Dec 20, 2001 17:39

Gr# 6:
The standards of living increase for
The Press respectfully awaits your some, but for the majority they become
response. worse. Of course the succesful, wealthy
business men have excellent lives, the
The Press workers not only have horrible working
conditions (in "The Jungle" by Upton
Sinclair, the horrible sanitation and
working conditions in the meat packing
industry were illustrated brutally) But
many workers were forced to live in crime
ridden neighborhoods in small crowded
tenaments. Infant mortality rates
receeded from the Agrian times, but the
life expectancy loered tremendously, to
about eighteen to nineteen years old.
Message: #84 From: Press

Dec 20, 2001 17:42 message

#79:

Thank you. That was avery informative

and highly intersting answer with your
pointers to Sinclair. Your reference to
distribution of wealth is intriguiing.

Industrialization requires great

investments of capital. Where does such
capital come from and what affect does
the concentration of capital in industry
have on the culture of a developing
country? Perhaps you could discuss
Mexico as an example?
Message: #86 From: Press Message: #100 From: Mexico

Dec 20, 2001 17:43 Dec 20, 2001 17:59 response to

Could you also verify and repeat you message #86:
statistic about change in life
expectancy??? Industrialization requires a great deal
of capital (money), but as the change
The Press from Agrian to Industial culture occurs,
that money is generated by the growth of
Message: #107From: Press the area`s economy. The money for
businesses came from the country`s
Dec 20, 2001 18:01 response to banks, and it was usually only successful
message #100: if the country had a decent or good
banking system. As business grew, and
Again, I want to compliment you for a very more and more workers were needed, the
informative, thoughtful and detailed money began to circulate and grow.
answer. Given your understanding of the Because workers were not protected by
issues, what is your advice to developing child labor laws, minimum wage standards
nations about industrialization? etc, the owners of these businesses could
pay them as little money in wages as they
The press desired, keeping more money for
themselves, and more money for
From: Press investing, which circulated it back into the
banks. In mexico, workers to this day are
Dec 20, 2001 18:03 still exploited, being paid extremely low
The Press would like to thank the wages. Children are not only hired before
delegates for their sustained and careful they are of legal working age (14), but
attention and for the serious effort to they are hired by the millions and they are
respond to our questions. we found your paid so little wages that they have no
responses very informative. We hope that choice but to work for excessively long
we can all meet with you again and hours with no hope of having time or
discuss other topics. We enjoyed the money for school and education.
exchange. *our satistics were slightly incorrect,
the expectancy was 17 years (for a worker
The Members of the Press in the city of Manchester, England), and it
was taken from resource card 1 of the
Urbanization unit....living to 18 or 19
would be doing very well. This was
roughly the expectancy in other large
cities that were affected by
Inudstrialization, such as New York City,
London, etc.