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What is an appropriate ICT curriculum?

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Its 8pm. Time for #ukedchat with @urban_teacher What is an appropriate ICT curriculum? Watch How to Go4GOLD in education http://t.co/pZsbXfTw #SLTChat #Ukedchat #TMEssex #Teaching #insetday Join in! RT @ukedchat: Its 8pm. Time for #ukedchat with @urban_teacher What is an appropriate ICT curriculum? #ukedchat why not join us at #agrichatuk where tonights chat is Do Agric colleges/Uni's prepare students for future issues in agriculture. #ukedchat why not join us at #agrichatuk where tonights chat is Do Agric colleges/Uni's prepare students for future issues in agriculture. An appropriate ICT curriculum should not include schemes of work that I was taught in primary school...I'm qualified for 3 yrs too!#ukedchat [Weekly reminder] #ukedchat is about to start on Twitter. You can watch the conversation & join in here: http://t.co/lmRpxs8n relevant, engaging, challenging - requiring higher order thinking, independence, adaptability #ukedchat Watch How to Go4GOLD in education http://t.co/z6fboShP #SLTChat #Ukedchat #TMEssex #Teaching #insetday @thechrissyt Good point #ukedchat @ukedchat @urban_teacher #Ukedchat one which encourages, enables and enthuses pupils towards ICT skills that are useable in the real world! RT @Sarah__wright1: @ukedchat @urban_teacher #Ukedchat one which encourages, enables and enthuses pupils towards ICT skills that are use ... @Romaaddict Not much at all then... Sounds like a good mantra for all subjects. #ukedchat @Sarah__wright1 Preparing students for the real world! #ukedchat #ukedchat Curriculum must promote the use of free tech and expertise in social media #ukedchat It should include the opportunity to explore programmes that the children a) need to use, b) ask to use and c) will find enjoyable #ukedchat An appropriate ICT curriculum should

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prepare students for the world of work they're about to join and not Last century's world. RT @Wonderacademy: #ukedchat Curriculum must promote the use of free tech and expertise in social media Is computer science and programming appropriate? #ukedchat RT @cherrylkd: #ukedchat An appropriate ICT curriculum should prepare students for the world of work they're about to join and not Last ... the opportunity to explore new things #ukedchat @Sarah__wright1 @ukedchat @urban_teacher and one which can be embedded in your cross-curricular work #ukedchat It's all about purpose! RT @MrsPTeach: #ukedchat It should include the opportunity to explore programmes that the children a) need to use, b) ask to use and c) ... A curriculum that adapts to new technology and skills needed. #ukedchat #ukedchat really enjoying the rising stars schemes of work - y5 incl. blogging and video editing so far #ukedchat I like @chrisleach78's definition. ICT = Innovate Create Tinker @urban_teacher ABSOLUTELY #ukedchat @ginamarieglenn How can that be measured in school terms? #ukedchat RT @kerry_lou2001: @Sarah__wright1 @ukedchat @urban_teacher and one which can be embedded in your cross-curricular work #ukedchat It's a ... @urban_teacher exactly! ICT should primarily be about connecting with others and learning from them! People learn from people! #UkEdchat an appropriate ICT curriculum must incorporate up to date technology #ukedchat ICT seems the wrong acronym, doesn't it? #ukedchat Children teach themselves to use the software nowadays that they need to be taught HOW to create this software rather than use it! #ukedchat RT @kerry_lou2001: @Sarah__wright1 @ukedchat @urban_teacher and one which can be embedded in your cross-curricular work #ukedchat It's a ... @mikallaane: hav been discharged frm hospital lookin

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4ward 2 #ukedchat & #DLChat Wow! Fab news! Current plan is for there to be three strands to new ICT Curriculum. #ukedchat Digital Literacy, ICT &Computer Science http://t.co/MuLt8602 Our pupils won't leave school for 10yrs! Think how rapidly tech can change in that time... Experimentation&adaptation are needed! #ukedchat RT @cherrylkd: #ukedchat An appropriate ICT curriculum should prepare students for the world of work they're about to join and not Last ... #ukedchat ICT curriculum. About time it was updated. Have you seen QCA! Some schools still using that. We have y3 conversant in Office! RT @MrG_ICT: A curriculum that adapts to new technology and skills needed. #ukedchat RT @callmepolly: #ukedchat really enjoying the rising stars schemes of work - y5 incl. blogging and video editing so far #Ukedchat The curriculum should regularly be updated to fit current trends. RT @Sarah__wright1: @ukedchat @urban_teacher #Ukedchat one which encourages, enables and enthuses pupils towards ICT skills that are use ... #ukedchat children need to be able to learn more than we know @thechrissyt Really? I think ICT teaches them how to use is discerningly. #ukedchat I plan for the use of ICT in all other subjects #ukedchat I completely agree @kerry_lou2001 #ukedchat and one which can be embedded in your cross-curricular work #ukedchat It's all about purpose! @urban_teacher yep, programming is a must. #ukedchat The curriculum needs to equip students with ICT tools and not tick box government agendas? #ukedchat @thechrissyt So it's more about introducing them to the software (i.e signposting them to it) and giving the time to explore. #ukedchat RT @ukedchat: Join @urban_teacher in 10 minutes

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@8pm to discuss What is an appropriate ICT curriculum? #ukedchat @eslweb #ukedchat this sounds like a plan will it still get embedded across a wider curriculum? #ukedchat ICT can play a key role in developing resilience. You will get stuck, now how are you going to deal with it? lots of great KS2 material #rethinkingict #risingstars. KS3 seems more problematic? #ukedchat @urban_teacher Yes to KS4+5. Embrace concepts at KS3. Not sure if teachers and kids are ready or able yet. #ukedchat RT @TeacherToolkit: "Words for teenagers" via @BillWatkin (SSAT) from John Tapene (Headteacher NZ) #SLTchat #ukedchat http://t.co/DGLW8x9V Programming. This is an expectation to be delivered. Ideas for staff development please? #ukedchat @urban_teacher using up to date and using new technology but allowing students to explore #ukedchat @DebbieHolley1 The curriculum itself doesn't determine how it gets taught. Just the content. #ukedchat @johnmayo Definitely. There's a lot on the Miranda network about it in the last few days. #edchatie #ukedchat #ukedchat it's important to understand not all students will go in the same direction. ICT needs to prepare kids for all possibilities. @urban_teacher Well gov agendas should be relevant and appropriate too...then ticking them would be a good thing. #ukedchat RT @kerry_lou2001: #Ukedchat The curriculum should regularly be updated to fit current trends. I don't think it's about tools and software (these will perm chng)... I think it's more about concepts and purposes (more stable) #ukedchat @MrAColley #ukedchat agree resilience and problem solving needed Will parent cyberbullying force young UK teachers out of the classroom? http://t.co/V6ABZBWu #ukedchat #edchat #education RT @mattbritland: #ukedchat it's important to understand not all students will go in the same direction.

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ICT needs to prepare kids for a ... Specialised ICT i.e Programming and Computer Science or Generic ICT Microsoft office and emails...#ukedchat interactivity of #scratch#codeacademy#tryruby allow non-experts to at least introduce programg to their students. Learn with them! #ukedchat I think problem finding needs to come before problem solving #ukedchat @urban_teacher #ukedchat to an extent yes, but not overkill. RT @urban_teacher: The curriculum needs to equip students with ICT tools and not tick box government agendas? #ukedchat @tmeeky Agree - considering what is the purpose is a great starting point for critical discussion of ICT #ukedchat Understanding the rules of ESafety #CEOP has to embedded at every Key Stage. #ukedchat We need to intro CompSci and give pupils a taste. Not everyone will be a poet but they should be exposed to poetry. #ukedchat #Ukedchat scarily we need to be able to prepare pupils for work in a world using ICT that is yet to be invented...mission impossible? @Mrs___F: Programming. This is an expectation to be delivered. Ideas for staff development please? #ukedchat <~ I agree. teach kids 2 problem solve and give ICT resources to solve it, let's Flip IT #ukedchat RT @tmeeky: I think problem finding needs to come before problem solving #ukedchat ICT in its current form can be taught throughout the curriculum but we might need to introduce more programming type things in ICT?#ukedchat Programming in curriculum, I'd say that #Scratch would be fine for KeyStage 2 & most of Key Stage 3. #ukedchat #ukedchat topic reminder:What is an appropriate ICT curriculum? with @urban_teacher @tmeeky Agreed, hence the expectation that pupils will get stuck. #ukedchat @Mrs___F definitely #ukedchat

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RT @MrAColley: #ukedchat ICT can play a key role in developing resilience. You will get stuck, now how are you going to deal with it? @urban_teacher #ukedchat ict should be a combo of office, multimedia and theory with elements of computing - scratch/alice, html intro Office and emails will be covered across the curriculum #ukedchat RT @kerry_lou2001: #Ukedchat scarily we need to be able to prepare pupils for work in a world using ICT that is yet to be invented...mis ... RT @kerry_lou2001: #Ukedchat scarily we need to be able to prepare pupils for work in a world using ICT that is yet to be invented...mis ... RT @DHESolutionsLtd: Office and emails will be covered across the curriculum #ukedchat However being specialised too soon might switch off children who won't necessarily become programmers. Adaptive is the key. #ukedchat @tmeeky agree students (and we!) need to be adaptable and independent - transferrable skills a must in rapidly changing work-place #ukedchat @urban_teacher All of the above, depends on the experience of the kids #ukedchat @thechrissyt Not sure I agree with that statement. They get time at home to use pens but it may not make them good writers. #ukedchat @MrBirminghamICT What kind of hardware to software ratio should be taught? #ukedchat #ukedchat topic reminder:What is an appropriate ICT curriculum? with @urban_teacher @mikallaane #ukedchat flipped sounds great idea -... #Ukedchat what should year three chn be learning?I teach email, blogging, story boarding, social media, use of publisher Appropriate ICT curric... broad in lower years, allow for some specialism in later yrs dep on students' interests #ukedchat RT @eslweb: Programming in curriculum, I'd say that #Scratch would be fine for KeyStage 2 & most of Key Stage 3. #ukedchat #ukedchat There's SO much out there, but 'curriculum'

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implies a prescribed list.Should be ICT exploration,evaluation & invention. I've found that programming in Scratch and other interactive experiences are what children like best. #ukedchat Can be lots of fun! Care needed; lots of schools innovating down tablet/BYOD route x-curric & re dig lit, but not part fit-for-purpose re programming? #ukedchat My major issue is that everything that I want to cover would take 3+ hours per wk! #ukedchat #ukedchat - Getting cold shivers as Microsoft Office keeps being mentioned. Other applications are available, lets not promote just one. Less than three days till I'm hosting this weeks #sltchat If you're doing #ukedchat I'd love to see you there. @eslweb: Programming in curriculum, I'd say that #Scratch would be fine for KeyStage 2 & most of Key Stage 3. #ukedchat + kodu of course! RT @davidhunter: #Ukedchat what should year three chn be learning?I teach email, blogging, story boarding, social media, use of publisher @davidhunter Why not teach writing first, then integrate tech? #ukedchat #ukedchat ICT changes so quickly its focus needs to be on usage. Programming should be a separate subject. Even LOGO too basic now. Using Speaking and listening, ipads and football to engage reluctant boys to write lesson 2 http://t.co/e477nYK5 #ipaded #ukedchat #teched A fun, interactive and engaging way for children to learn about prime numbers using iPads http://t.co/ga032y6R #ipaded #ukedchat #numeracy @MrAColley true,but we model how to create good writers & our country is full of them.We need creators of technology just as much? #ukedchat RT @CaptainGove: ##ukedchat hear there's talk of an ICT curriculum tonight. Forget it, it's yesterday's stuff. History is the future. ...

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@davidhunter teach what they are ready to learn and apply in their learning, gr8 stuff #ukedchat RT @kevbartle: Less than three days till I'm hosting this weeks #sltchat If you're doing #ukedchat I'd love to see you there. whatevr we teach in ICT needs to be interesting and purposeful. This is diff for diff people... why go for 1 size fits all? #ukedchat RT @MrAColley: My major issue is that everything that I want to cover would take 3+ hours per wk! #ukedchat @mikallaane agree - the number of pupils who find using ICT to problem solve difficult is surprising, and too often presumed #ukedchat I've always thought a lot of ALICE for getting very young kids into programming -- free, too http://t.co/xn0bW2MM #ukedchat RT @Wonderacademy: #ukedchat Curriculum must promote the use of free tech and expertise in social media RT @eslweb: I've found that programming in Scratch and other interactive experiences are what children like best. #ukedchat Can be lots ... Are jumping on the bandwagon of programming and computer science, while neglecting the basic ICT skills and curriculum. #ukedchat @MrBirminghamICT What about hardware like the Raspberry Pi? Does that have a place at KS3? #ukedchat Still time to sign up for #globalclassroom Christmas so many rich learning possibilities! http://t.co/bubGZryJ #ukedchat #edchat why is comp sci and prog a dandwagon? #ukedchat RT @eslweb: I've found that programming in Scratch and other interactive experiences are what children like best. #ukedchat Can be lots ... #ukedchat is the craze for iPads a bit of a red herring? We don't have much money. @tmeeky Specialisms In later years. That's a good idea. Better than trying to master all ICT #ukedchat RT @eslweb: I've found that programming in Scratch and other interactive experiences are what children like

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best. #ukedchat Can be lots ... @mikallaane agreed re what ready to learn.Btw I think touch typing should be high on the list.don't see qwerty going anywhere soon #ukedchat @andrew_cowley23 for some yes, others no. My yr6s really enjoy problem solving using Logo #ukedchat curriculum and basic knowledge and skills are very important #ukedchat @ICTmagic at this stage no.as extra curriculum, yes. #ukedchat i admit my knowledge of it isweak #ukedchat Would like to see blogging podcasting movie making (stop frame) music uploading and contributing to school website. @Lynnewin100 The fact u r wondering if ipads are red herrings is a good sign = considered thought... that's the key #ukedchat The only barriers to teaching of quality IT or ICT is the confidence and skill of the teachers. The pupils will grasp anything. #ukedchat Apart from programming! What else is appropriate for an ICT curriculum? #ukedchat @ICTmagic @mrbirminghamict And do you think learning about some aspects of hardware should be introduced in Primary school? #ukedchat RT @MrAColley: My major issue is that everything that I want to cover would take 3+ hours per wk! #ukedchat US/UK ed person and employer's view: teaching tech/software is fast, cheap, easy. Teaching writing, other skills? Expensive, hard #ukedchat RT @MrAColley: #ukedchat I like @chrisleach78's definition. ICT = Innovate Create Tinker @mattbuxton10 Agree, the latest draft of the programmes of study for new ICT National Curriculum will need schools to teach it? #ukedchat @ginamarieglenn What is basic knowledge? How many bits in a byte? #ukedchat #ukedchat ICT curriculum should be disbanded. ICT should be part of every lesson and permeate through school All good ICT curricula should have 3 strands: Digital literacy (using apps), Computer science (theory & prac) & Digital learning. #UKEdChat

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RT @eslweb: I've found that programming in Scratch and other interactive experiences are what children like best. #ukedchat Can be lots ... @millsyblue Good point! #ukedchat #ukedchat was there a sixth former who put teacher's car on ebay or is that urban myth? @urban_teacher asking the children to turn their monitors off while I speak to them. #ukedchat oh, and bit.ly account to shorten links @davidhunter I would love to use email with mine - if only they had a school email address! #ukedchat @Lynnewin100 Absolutely - we've been seduced I think. A lot of investment in something that will date fast. #ukedchat @SheliBB Definitely! Kodu, Stencyl, Game Salad and Game Maker Studio too...All great tools! #ukedchat #ukedchat no need to write a new curriculum. None of my students will be using powerpoint/excel when they get a job ICT & Comp Programming belong together as do English Literature and Language - can be appreciated separately but are complementary #ukedchat @urban_teacher #Ukedchat Safe and productive use of social networking sites and mobile devices. @davidhunter agree, my yr6s enjoy touch typing using 1 of the Google Apps in their account. #ukedchat @urban_teacher basic understanding of components is fundamental #UkEdChat @davidhunter @mikallaane Great point re.touch typing. My class are doing it this term & they love that it has such a purpose #ukedchat @cherrylkd @tmeeky Specialisms absolutely; some will want 2 code & use logic, some will want 2 design & be creative (with x-overs) #ukedchat An ICT Curriculum should include basic HTML. HTML will remain the foundation of the internet for some time #ukedchat I used makeymakey in one of my lessons....students were amazed a can play pac man using fruits....#ukedchat @kerry_lou2001 we bought a domain for cheap and signed up with http://t.co/VxlvPXnA. You can set it to just

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internal as well. #ukedchat kids shld be encouraged /facilitated to be competent to digest (eval after consume) BUT also create (using wht ever is best) #ukedchat RT @C_Farr0w: @urban_teacher basic understanding of components is fundamental #UkEdChat RT @mattbritland: @urban_teacher #Ukedchat Safe and productive use of social networking sites and mobile devices. @Lynnewin100 #ukedchat Permanent fixture for my school, but that's a red herring statement in itself as we're special (as you know) @mattbritland Agreed. 'Best foot forward' online. We can't teach 'head in the sand'. #ukedchat RT @MrAColley: @mattbritland Agreed. 'Best foot forward' online. We can't teach 'head in the sand'. #ukedchat RT @urban_teacher: I used makeymakey in one of my lessons....students were amazed a can play pac man using fruits....#ukedchat I like what I heard last week which was to have time in class where pupils teach their teachers an aspect of ICT that they know. #ukedchat @MrAColley #Ukedchat Spot on...lets embrace it. @mikallaane not seen that. dance mat typing is great. And ztype on chrome is an awesome game for older ones #ukedchat RT @CaptainGove: ##ukedchat hear there's talk of an ICT curriculum tonight. Forget it, it's yesterday's stuff. History is the future. ... Appropriate ICT Curriculum results: Safety, Programming, web tools, inside a computer.....anything else #ukedchat @mattbritland: @eslweb Kodu is great...very popular with my students. I love it and enjoy getting DLs to problem solve with it #ukedchat It's possible to make even spreadsheets creative. Here's my SOW http://t.co/fSGqrLkI #ukedchat @MrsPTeach Very important to use a range of activities

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@bobdbob good idea. Ms word could be friendlier in this regard tho #ukedchat it's mind blowing to think what technology will be available in 10+years time... #ukedchat RT @mattbritland: @urban_teacher #Ukedchat Safe and productive use of social networking sites and mobile devices. @mattbritland @urban_teacher Great point re history of computing in ICT PofS; to understand anything u need a bit of its history #ukedchat @suttoneditor @urban_teacher I had them putting a piece of A4 paper over their hands (like my piano teacher used 2)!They loved it! #ukedchat @MrsPTeach I agree and I get my children to learn in the 1st term as well. @davidhunter @mikallaane #ukedchat @mattbuxton10 @urban_teacher You don't know where you're going, unless you know where you have come from. :-) #Ukedchat #ukedchat check out http://t.co/O7B6FURl :) @tmeeky It's a good question, but typing like English spelling is very resistant to change. Lots of changes suggested over years.#ukedchat RT @urban_teacher: I used makeymakey in one of my lessons....students were amazed a can play pac man using fruits....#ukedchat @ICTEvangelist #ukedchat spot on many teachers need a few classes too @urban_teacher why would it be different for inner city? #UKEdChat @urban_teacher why would it be different for inner city? #UKEdChat @urban_teacher surely thats down to school leaders? To adapt for context? #ukedchat The expectation should be that all the s/ware will be diff when they're older. It's how they apply prob finding & solving skills #ukedchat We are halfway through the discussion on #ukedchat join in! #ukedchat Teach very young children to experiment as they are unlikely to break it, self discovery is best way to learn ICT skills

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Children need to have access to blogs / other social media and taught how to use it responsibly, should not be banned in sch #ukedchat @IamStephReed holograms straight out the palm of our hands #ukedchat @millsyblue edmodo is a great tool! #ukedchat #ukedchat We also need to be clever in the way we deliver. Some teachers have very little curric time. Plan well and combine strands. RT @kevbartle: Less than three days till I'm hosting this weeks #sltchat If you're doing #ukedchat I'd love to see you there. RT @mattbritland: #ukedchat We also need to be clever in the way we deliver. Some teachers have very little curric time. Plan well and c ... @mattbritland Good point! #ukedchat Curriculum designed by you guys #ukedchat Maybe we start and update wiki with examples and ideas.We lead the way not Gove. @bobharrisonset @ICTEvangelist Works, esp if kid gets chance to 'major' in one strand later on in KS4/5, or even earlier I guess?? #ukedchat ICT should be embedded in all subjects, but it should also be taught explicitly so children have the knowledge to transfer. #ukedchat RT @cherrylkd: #ukedchat Teach very young children to experiment as they are unlikely to break it, self discovery is best way to learn I ... @bobharrisonset #UKEdChat agree completely. And be given more than one lesson a week to deliver a quality curric in an important subject. I would use the same approach for the inner city kids as you used on the other students. #ukedchat RT @IamStephReed: it's mind blowing to think what technology will be available in 10+years time... #ukedchat @CarrotyCarrots Agreed. A YouTube ban blocks great resource like http://t.co/pWctYhDC (archive of oral history). Short sighted! #ukedchat @IamStephReed digital paper?! #ukedchat So where do we see the ICT heading? #ukedchat

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RT @Teachric: #ukedchat ICT curriculum should be disbanded. ICT should be part of every lesson and permeate through school @mattbuxton10 @bobharrisonset #UKEdChat Developer vs User pathways at KS4/5 is a great idea nicked from @LessonHacker Perhaps we also need to be thinking about parents. Do we need to minimise scepticism and fear so that we can use IT even more? #ukedchat @tmeeky can't see some form of keyboard change for a LONG time #ukedchat I think an effective #ictcurric should ditch levels. They're meaningless for the majority of pupils. #openbadges or similar please #ukedchat @urban_teacher totally computer science if Gove has his way.... The wrong way #ukedchat @davidhunter @tmeeky If you look the history you'll notice a lot of attempts and little success. #ukedchat http://t.co/9F5l1r3C Do we need Mobile Phones, Tablets and Web Apps to make ICT appropriate? #ukedchat @mattbritland Yes, esp if IT content can be created 'fluid' enough to allow x-curric; ie kid doing Geog KS4 design a Geog-reld app #ukedchat What about ICT and family learning? Should parents be coming in to school for ICT refreshers with their children? #ukedchat RT @MrBirminghamICT: @urban_teacher totally computer science if Gove has his way.... The wrong way #ukedchat #ukedchat when I began in 90s it was obvious then that kids were ahead of us. A curric of adaptable applicable and flexible skills needed! @RustyRL @teachric Learning tech (or whatever you want to call it) should permeate school. ICT should be a separate subject. #ukedchat @MrAColley Agree. #openbadges starting within school is in line with changes that lie ahead I think. Same for online CVs. #ukedchat RT @MrG_ICT: Curriculum designed by you guys #ukedchat Maybe we start and update wiki with examples and ideas.We lead the way not Gove.

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@millsyblue #Ukedchat I have ran seminars for parents 2 give them an idea what there kids maybe doing online and how they can use their tech @davidhunter @tmeeky Changing the keyboard would be like changing the alphabet!? Typing is habit like spelling for most people. #ukedchat we also have to understand at times students may well know more than us part of it has to be letting class go with it #ukedchat Why Khan Academy Is The Wrong Answer http://t.co/sohwNkwq #UKEdchat #Flipclass #BCed #abed #SaskEd #ManEd #EdTech #CanEd #OntEd #EdChat @DHESolutionsLtd A YouTube ban would be my worst nightmare! Only just managed to get Twitter unblocked for teachers, however! #ukedchat @eslweb @tmeeky trouble with voice recognition is other people can hear you. I'm typing on Swype.it's great.still need qwerty tho #ukedchat @DHESolutionsLtd - Yes defiantly, our ICT family learning sessions are often over subscribed. #ukedchat "@MrAColley: #openbadges or similar please #ukedchat" couldn't agree more!! @mattbuxton10 I think app design could be a great step forward #ukedchat @urban_teacher #Ukedchat We should embrace whatever technology is relevant in my opinion. Def the way ahead. Great point by @JuliaSteiny -- giving thanks, being gracious should be '21st century skills' http://t.co/O1iWGhSs #ukedchat #edchat @eslweb maybe but I'm not sure. Thing is tch type is importnt for some (mainly non thinking roles) not many others. #ukedchat @davidhunter @tmeeky I find my old Nokia faster to type on than an iPhone or Android phone Touch Screen. #ukedchat Predictive text got good. @andrew_cowley23 really I very rarely see kids that are ahead and I work boys grammar. If anything skills seem to be worse #ukedchat @samthewestie - And a whole class resounds great to thinking the know more than the teacher #ukedchat

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@mattbritland Got to be the way. I often get questions and 'generalisations' as to how dangerous web based apps are. #misguided #ukedchat RT @ICTEvangelist: @mattbuxton10 @bobharrisonset #UKEdChat Developer vs User pathways at KS4/5 is a great idea nicked from @LessonHacker The best ICT plan? Solid reading, writing, numeracy, thinking. The tech part's easy after that. #ukedchat @millsyblue Yes we do, and for them not to just say 'Go do your homework' #ukedchat Lesson on genre.They're writing conventions of a genre as a recipe.Need help to stretch it.How can you think deeply about genre? #ukedchat Pupils online footprint is key. We need to help students create appropriate public profiles and awareness of searches by employers #ukedchat @groganbee i'll check it out! #ukedchat @urban_teacher Anything that enhances learning should be considered. Gimmicks vs latest tech development? #ukedchat @DHESolutionsLtd Yes, parents could learn alongside their children & see its more than games and FB #ukedchat @mtrickett1990 @mrg_ICT Check out the #ictcurric moodle and #digitalstudies & #rethinkingict wikis if you haven't already #ukedchat What is an appropriate ICT curriculum? #ukedchat @LessonHacker Of course if you are an Academy,Free or Public school you do not have to follow NC and teach what you like:) #ukedchat @tmeeky There's a lot of arguments. I doubt Touch Typing will be in #ICTcurric Could be in English curric. #ukedchat @urban_teacher #Ukedchat Indeed it is...I suppose that's what makes our jobs so exciting and different. (And stressful) :-) @MrsPTeach just not sure tch typing is best use of time at schl when a lot more cld be happening at higher level of thinking #ukedchat Chase scene descriptive recordings on @audioboo http://t.co/ibhXf7Pp Recognise the pictures @DeputyMitchell ? #comments4kids #ukedchat

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#ukedchat how do people promote independence in ict?? @Renieloud: @TeacherToolkit 5 min lesson plan http://t.co/WF09kZHT #ukedchat The #5MinPlan reaches Australia. @MrAColley: #ukedchat I like @chrisleach78s . ICT = Innovate Create Tinker we use innovative, creative technology as our strap line. How many of you use blogs in your school? Great way to share, children to get feedback on their work and to teach e-safety #ukedchat RT @mattbritland: @urban_teacher #Ukedchat We should embrace whatever technology is relevant in my opinion. Def the way ahead. RT @cherrylkd: @DHESolutionsLtd Yes, parents could learn alongside their children & see its more than games and FB #ukedchat @MrBirminghamICT @alecwaters @urban_teacher As it is now plus Computer Science? #ukedchat @djphillips1408 surely it's something to aspire to though? So many careers being made out of them? #ukedchat RT @mattbritland: #ukedchat it's important to understand not all students will go in the same direction. ICT needs to prepare kids for a ... The UPS http://t.co/wLMidgYq blog has been taken over by Digital Leaders.Do as they say and help us regain control! Pls RT #dlchat #ukedchat @tmeeky @MrsPTeach agreed, I think touch typing is an unnecessary distraction. #ukedchat @MrBirminghamICT I prefer to promote interdependence. Check out Berger's work on public critique. #ukedchat @davidhunter what's comf now, doesn't mean it's best way to do something. you've had yrs of using a cert approach that's all #ukedchat @bobharrisonset @lessonhacker I think I read today that something like 48% of state schools are no academies.Could have dreamt it #Ukedchat RT @ICTEvangelist: @MrAColley: #ukedchat I like @chrisleach78s . ICT = Innovate Create Tinker we use

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youtube unblocked. So many valuable resources are blocked #ukedchat" #bloxx grrr @mattbuxton10 @djphillips1408 @thechrissyt I teach mattbritland App design...not App coding. Kids love it and get very creative. #Ukedchat Block it culture has to be removed, if we don't teach DCallanIT them how to cross the road safely they will never leave their own streets #ukedchat @MrAColley @mattbritland @suttoneditor happy to ICTEvangelist share my ppt template #UKEdChat There are fundamental things that students need to urban_teacher learn in ICT! Hardware, Software and Current Technologies #ukedchat @redgierob understand the concern Rob, will need to be bobharrisonset a glossary,explanatory notes and cpd to support the change don't you think? #ukedchat @tmeeky yes, but we need kids using keyboards now davidhunter #ukedchat @MrBirminghamICT @alecwaters @urban_teacher ClaireJoanneICT What about in Primary Schools? Is Computer Science too difficult? #ukedchat mattbritland @DCallanIT #Ukedchat Spot on! I believe programming can be accessible to everyone Ginger_Non_Geek & encourages creativity #ukedchat #cas Other ICT skills are equally important though @mattbritland @mattbuxton10 @djphillips1408 brilliant. thechrissyt What age do you do that with? Kids will always rise to the expectations. #ukedchat @tmeeky I know they're going to have 7 more years (at MrsPTeach least) of education and a lifetime of communication in which they need it #ukedchat #ukedchat With a new 11-18 curriculum, ICT to be Wonderacademy integral to vocational or academic pathways RT @ClaireJoanneICT: @MrBirminghamICT urban_teacher @alecwaters @urban_teacher What about in Primary Schools? Is Computer Science too difficult? #ukedchat RT @mattbritland: @urban_teacher #Ukedchat Sa...: RT bettybrowser @mattbritland: @urban_teacher #Ukedchat Safe and produ... http://t.co/wlFqwRxC #ssn Some great tools @Raspberry_Pi @AppsforGoodCDI CreateMakeLearn @Historypin @scratchteam @OpenBadges all great ingredients for ICT curriculum #ukedchat

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not? Taking an idea from inception to build, even if it flops, isn't learning?? #ukedchat @mattbuxton10 @mattbritland @thechrissyt but I want to teach them how to use a computer not how 2 be better person #ukedchat #ukedchat using digi microscope to explore minibeasts, filming news report about great fire London etc teaches ict skills but is topic @djphillips1408 @matthewktabor @mattbuxton10 ...creators too. The code language needs to be established/taught soon though I feel. #ukedchat @Teachric I learned to use a BBC Acorn computer in 1980s, I played Mario on a 7 bit Nintendo. I learned a lot and was useful! #ukedchat #edtech20 #socialmedia #curation presentation in #globaled12 @LucianeCurator http://t.co/EY8Tow6L Rt and Like #edchat #ukedchat #ideachat @matthewktabor @mattbuxton10 @djphillips1408 Because half the time the community doesn't know. Creativity within a framework. #ukedchat teachers need to know what they are teaching so they need to experience the technology beforehand #ukedchat @SwayGrantham @Teachric If concepts taught alongside skills - a platform for continued learning no matter what time has passed #ukedchat RT @ginamarieglenn: teachers need to know what they are teaching so they need to experience the technology beforehand #ukedchat @ginamarieglenn Very good point! #ukedchat The #ukedchat poll for next week is live at http://t.co/7WAHFPy8. Cast your vote before leaving cyberspace. @djphillips1408 @mattbuxton10 @mattbritland kids very largely know how to use computers.3yr olds navigate cbeebies scarily easily! #ukedchat Kitchen Sink alert: A curriculum that provides an immediate foundation, logical thinking, creativity, problem solving, criticality #ukedchat @urban_teacher graphics, office suite, scratch, animation, film, codeavengers, stop frame, and pointers to stuff on VLE 4 more #ukedchat

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I have no ICT Skills Set (No certificates) I can use SO many programmes - how? I spent up to 20 mins exploring each! Even CSS #ukedchat @SwayGrantham @teachric yes! I wrote games for my zx spectrum when I was ten too #ukedchat not useful but inspired future maybe!! @MrsPTeach that's great then. I Ca point, just not the be all. Wld rather my kids were taught 2 eval, synthesise, analyse by Mavis #ukedchat If code is a language then learning a new language when you are young is proven to be a very successful method #ukedchat Just 5 minutes of #ukedchat remain. Final thoughts? @thechrissyt @djphillips1408 @mattbuxton10 @mattbritland And Ebay apparently, u hear about the toddler who put the car on ebay? #ukedchat @mattbuxton10 @matthewktabor @thechrissyt But they CAN'T ever build it - you cant teach xCode in schools!!!! #ukedchat @bekblayton "I think touch typing is an unnecessary distraction." > it certainly has for me tnight :) #ukedchat @Teachric @SwayGrantham some kids do not have the same skills, access, tools or support to be able to 'self teach' though #ukedchat @Teachric not everyone can learn independently, many don't know where to start. Otherwise why would anyone bother with college/uni #ukedchat @Teachric Exactly! People forget that a life of ICT learning involves being used to moving with technology. Happens naturally! #ukedchat @mattbritland @millsyblue this is great to hear. Definitely the way forward! #ukedchat Need to provide enough of a foundation that pupils can then learn new software by themselves. Ability to learn to learn. #ukedchat #ukedchat there needs to be a document with a questionnaire which tallies the skills need per software i.e, skills/key terms @thechrissyt @mattbuxton10 @mattbritland Most kids can do bugger all when they arrive to me they know how to consume media only #ukedchat

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#ukedchat @urban_teacher Excellent hosting. Thanks for an interesting chat. Lots of good points picked up from everyone. Thank you @DCallanIT - My argument has always been if they find it filtered at school they are more likely to look for it at home. #ukedchat @tmeeky @cherrylkd I'm a teacher and I consider typing essential to my effectiveness #ukedchat RT @ukedchat: The #ukedchat poll for next week is live at http://t.co/7WAHFPy8. Cast your vote before leaving cyberspace. The #ukedchat poll for next week is live at http://t.co/7WAHFPy8. Cast your vote before you run away! @bekblayton yes, too much time spent (wasted) on this too :) #ukedchat RT @cherrylkd: #ukedchat @urban_teacher Excellent hosting. Thanks for an interesting chat. Lots of good points picked up from everyone. ... @urban_teacher Great job today! Cheers! #Ukedchat RT @mattbritland: @urban_teacher Great job today! Cheers! #Ukedchat @davidhunter crikey, you sure? #ukedchat @Teachric Not Mario Bros (self taught expert!) but yes to the Acorn. Loading floppy disks etc #ukedchat @MrsPTeach Best way to learn - by doing #ukedchat As Soon as the curric is finalised it will probably be out of date by it's very nature it must be dynamic and involve taking risks #ukedchat @djphillips1408 @matthewktabor @thechrissyt So teach them. If kid can't write a doctoral thesis, should we teach 2 write an essay? #ukedchat @davidhunter @tmeeky @cherrylkd Poor typing is a bane at university. 1 kid took 3 days to type an essay I did in under an hour.#ukedchat @eslweb that's why I have a vle packed full of pointers to self learning tools. A decent VLE is half the battle to get them going #ukedchat @urban_teacher thanks for hosting!! #ukedchat RT @ukedchat: The #ukedchat poll for next week is live at http://t.co/7WAHFPy8. Cast your vote before leaving cyberspace.

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It's 9pm. Huge thanks to @urban_teacher for hosting tonight. The archive will be at http://t.co/wqw4yTPn soon. #ukedchat

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