Webinar on Osteoarthritis - With answers to Questions 5

FROM: Barbara Mellen Friday, March 30, 2012 7:27 PM

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1. What is your recommendation for pre-surgical and postsurgical treatment for a 65 year old male who is anticipating surgery for repair of full tears in rotator cuff to prevent arthritis in aging shoulder joint?

A. THE PREVENTION PROTOCOL FROM THE WEBINAR.

2. What are your thoughts on the use of MSM (methylsulfonylmethane) in the treatment of OA. Does it make it better or worse

A. MSM IS LIKE GLUCOSAMINE, IT DOESN'T DO THAT MUCH IN MY EXPERIENCE. THE RESEARCH HAS MIXED REVIEWS, BUT NOTHING REALLY OUTSTANDING TO SHOW THAT IT WORKS. MSM PARTICULARLY, WORKS ON SULFATION WHICH IS QUITE REMOVED AS A PATHWAY FROM OSTEOARTHRITIS.

3.

Can small osteophytes be eliminated with treatment of OA

A. A GOOD QUESTION THAT REMAINS UNANSWERED. THERE ARE SUCCESSES WITH FGF, TGF AND OSTEOBIOS AND IGF AND IL-10, BUT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO PINPOINT THE PROTOCOL, YOU HAVE TO GET IT PRECISELY DURING THE DEVELOPMENTAL STAGE AND ACTUALLY REVERSE IT. ONE WAY IS TO USE OSTEOBIOS + IGF+ IL-4 + IL-10 + TGF (AND NOT AIL-1, BUT IT IS DIFFICULT, WORKS BETTER IN YOUNG PEOPLE THAN IN THE ELDERLY, PROBABLY BECAUSE THE OSTEOPHYTES ARE DETECTED TOO LATE IN THE ELDERLY. IT IS BEST TO USE PREVENTIVE SOLUTIONS IN PATIENTS THAT ARE PRONE TO OA OR HAVE ARTHRITIS.

4. You mentioned acupuncture earlier, what can we do with Acupuncture and these protocols, can you elaborate

A. I MENTIONED A STUDY AS COMPARED TO USING OTHER ALTERNATIVES LIKE GLUCOSAMINE AND SHOWED THAT ACUPUNCTURE WORKED ABOUT 50% BETTER THAN GLUCOSAMINE IN LONG TERM TREATMENT FOR PAIN AND INFLAMMATORY PROGRESSION. ACUPOINTS WERE SELECTED ACCORDING TO SYNDROME DIFFERENTIATION, IN THIS CASE THE 120 CASES WERE OA OF THE KNEE. THEY USED EX-LE 4, ST 35, SP 9, GB 34, SF-36 COMPARED TO GLUCOSAMINE HYDROCHLORIDE CAPSULES 3 X DAY. THE ACUPUNCTURE GROUP RESULTS WERE SUPERIOR TO THE ORAL GLUCOSAMINE P<0.05 AND P< 0.01.

5. Thank you/ I was wondering if she has heard anything about Collagen Type 2 given orally on empty stomach to develop tolerance to the cartilage fibers that enter blood stream with joint injury?

A. THERE HAS BEEN TALK ABOUT HYDROLIZED COLLAGEN GIVEN ORALLY, BUT THE EVIDENCE IS WEAK, AND THE PRESUMED PATHWAY DOESN'T REALLY MAKE MUCH SENSE.

6. Thank You for another helpful webinar. Since the underlying problem is inflammation in Osteoarthritis, what in your opinion are the driving factors for this inflammation - chronic infection, gluten or other food sensitivities, our lousy diets? Or do you have other items to add. Thanks so much A. THE UNDERLYING PROBLEM IN OA IS NOT INFLAMMATION, IT IS LOSS OF CARTILAGE IN THE JOINT, SO IT IS DUE TO WEAR AND TEAR, OVEREXERTION SUCH AS IN ATHLETES AND AGE ... AGING JOINTS. THERE CAN BE CAUSES FROM METABOLIC DISORDERS SUCH AS METABOLIC SYNDROME, HIGH CHOLESTEROL AND TRIGLYCERIDES... SEE LIPID CONNECTION SLIDE. AGAIN, DEGRADING CARTILAGE IS THE UNDERLYING CAUSE, SO ANYTHING THAT WILL CAUSE THIS. THE WEBINAR GOES INTO DETAIL ABOUT THIS, LIPID CONNECTION, PROTEOGLYCANS, TNF, TACE, ETC. THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THE VERBAL THAT IS NOT ON THE SLIDES. THE SLIDES ARE JUST GUIDELINE BULLETS ELABORATED UPON IN THE TALK.

7. There is a concern about getting them all in. I think I heard that cytokines, hormones and neuropeptides work better when taken separately both from other symptomatic and balancing remedies (Matrix, Cell, Lympho, Allergy, Mycox, Male, Female, Flam, Mood, Eubioflor, etc.) as well as from each other. Is it true? Is it an absolute rule? So, if one premixes their remedies (Matrix, Cell, Lympho, Allergy, Mycox, Male, Female, Flam, Mood, Eubioflor, etc.) for the day in a water bottle, then any bottles of cytokines, hormones and neuropeptides one may be taking needs to be brought along and taken separately from the others as well as each other? What is the minimum amount of time to wait before taking, for example, 1) Matrix, Cell, and Lympho and 2) one of the cytokine, hormone or neuropeptide formulas? What is the minimum amount of time to wait before taking, for example, 1) one of the cytokine, hormone or neuropeptide formulas and 2) one of the other cytokine, hormone or neuropeptide formulas? Please expand or correct this thinking, if wrong.

A. PROTOCOLS SHOULD NOT USE SO MANY PRODUCTS AS YOU MENTION. THE PROTOCOLS LISTED OR THAT I RECOMMEND ARE ALWAYS CLEARLY MARKED AS TAKEN TOGETHER OR APART. I DO NOT ADVOCATE MIXING EVERYTHING INTO A LITER OF WATER AND SIPPING IT. CYTOKINE THERAPY IS TO BE TAKEN AS A DOSE. THE BEGINNING OF YOUR QUESTION, <CYTOKINES TAKEN AWAY FROM THE COMPLEXES, NO, DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS COMES FROM, AS MOST OF THE GUNA COMPLEXES CONTAIN CYTOKINES OR HORMONES OR NEUROTRANSMITTERS, THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WITH GUNA REMEDIES THEY CONTAIN CYTOKINES! WHAT I HAVE SAID, AND REPEAT ALL THE TIME IS THAT CYTOKINES DO NOT WORK ALONE. THEIR EFFECT DEPENDS ON THE MIX. THIS IS REITERATED AND DISCUSSED AT LENGTH IN THIS WEBINAR IN THE VERBAL PART.

CBASICALLY, THE PROTOCOLS GIVEN IN MY WEBINARS ARE CLEARLY STATED IN THEIR DOSING AND TIMELINES AND THEY ARE FOR THE CONDITION IN THE DISCUSSION, DO NOT CONFUSE THEM WITH THE INDEX PRM PROTOCOLS.
8. Are there Guna products that have been used on cats for hairballs, gagging and/or throwing up after eating? What about cats sneezing/allergies?

A. Yes there are, YOU CAN E-MAIL ME AT cytokinetherapy@gunainc.com for specific protocols.

9. True statements? No food, no mint, no herbs, and no nutrients before or after 20 minutes of taking remedies. No drugs for 60 minutes after remedies. No remedies for 60 minutes after drugs.

A: NO, THE MINT AND HERBS AND NUTRIENTS IS A MYTH, BUT THERE ARE SOME DRUGS THAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO TAKE WITH CYTOKINES BECAUSE OF INTERACTIONS, NOT BECAUSE OF THE HOMEOPATHIC SENSITIVITY OR DESTROYING THE IMPRINT. THE SAME HOLDS TRUE FOR CHINESE HERBS AND AYURVEDIC HERBS... INTERACTIONS, NOT THE HOMEOPATHIC MYTH RELATED TO MINT TOOTHPASTE, COFFEE, ETC. THE PRODUCTS TODAY ARE STABLE AND DIFFERENT THAN THEY WERE IN THE SEVENTEETH CENTURY.

10. True statements? Matrix, and FGF and TGF, for example, are usually taken in the morning and done by 3 pm, because they can be energizing. IL-10 (Interleukin-10) and Anti-Aging make some people peaceful and relaxed and some people a little sleepy. For this reason, they are generally taken in the late afternoon and evening until it is known how youll respond.

A: NO, FALSE... SOME PATIENT DO GET FATIGUE FROM CERTAIN PRODUCTS AND IL-10 IN PARTICULAR IS ONE THAT I OFTEN RECOMMEND PEOPLE TAKE BEFORE BED IF IT HAS THIS EFFECT, BUT IT IS ONLY ABOUT 1% OF THE POPULATION AND IT IS MORE LIKELY BECAUSE THE PROTOCOL IS AT WORK IN IMMUNE PATHWAYS AND THAT IS WHAT IS USING UP THEIR ENERGY.

11. Employment. Is there a problem being on Guna products and being at a job that does random drug testing? Obviously, they could lose their job if the remedies resulted in a false positive. What should I tell them?

HOMEOPATHIC DILUTIONS IN GENERAL DO NOT TEST. SOME SARCODES AND PROTEINS MIGHT IF THEY ARE IN DILUTIONS OF 1 -3 X BUT IN USUAL DILUTIONS IT IS RARE. WE HAVE USED THESE PRODUCTS EXTENSIVELY IN PROFESSIONAL SPORTS AND IN OLYMPIC ANIMAL ATHLETES WITHOUT PROBLEM.

12. Military Entrance Exam & Drug Testing. What about a patient who has ADD/ADHD and needs to take a military entrance exam and cannot be on any ADD/ADHD meds (because theyll show up on the drug testing). Are Guna products such as Aware, etc. going to be okay, help him concentrate on the test and yet, not show up positive on the required drug screen? SAME AS ABOVE. 13. From tonights Webinar: what do PRP, TACE and CTM stand for??????. Thank you!!!!!!!

PRP =PLATELET RICH PLASMA TACE: TUMOUR NECROSIS FACTOR ALPHA CONVERTASE ( or CONVERTING ENZYME) CTM= CONNECTIVE TISSUE MATRIX

14. Can IGF in the diabetic osteoarthritic increase the response of sensitivity to sugars initially so now the diabetic is more aware or might tend to crash hypoglycemically? If blood sugar regulation also a factor, should we keep this in mind with the number of drops of IGF? Hope this makes sense!

A. IN THE IGF WEBINAR THIS IS DISCUSSED AND WE HAVE NOT SEEN A PROBLEM WITH IGF-1 BECAUSE IT IS NOT THE BINDING PROTEIN OR THE RECEPTOR. LISTEN TO THE IGF WEBINAR FOR ELABORATION
HOWEVER YOU ARE RIGHT, I DO CAUTION PRACTITIONERS WHEN THE PATIENT IS DIABETIC AND MORE ESPECIALLY WHEN ON INSULIN, THEN I TELL THEM TO USE ONLY ONE HALF TO TWO THIRDS OF THE USUAL IGF DOSE OR I GIVE THEM A REDUCED DOSE IN THE PROTOCOL AND A NOTE TO MONITOR. YOU WILL SEE IT RIGHT AWAY IF THE PATIENT IS SENSITIVE. BUT IN THESE DIABETIC PATIENTS ALWAYS MONITOR FOR THE FIRST 3-5 DAYS. AS WELL, THIS IS ONE INSTANCE WHERE YOU DO NOT TAKE IGF ALONG WITH INSULIN; RESPECT A 2 HOUR OR MORE WINDOW APART. BUT AGAIN, IN AN OA PROTOCOL WITH IL-4 AND IL-10 AND FGF OR AIL-1 FOR EXAMPLE IT SHOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM; REMEMBER CYTOKINES' EFFECT IS BASED ON THEIR COMBINATION!

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Barbara Mellen | GUNA Inc. | Medical Sales Representative

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