Proposal for amendment Project FX-08-07 Add definitions

ASME A112.19.2-2008 / CSA B45.1-08 Ceramic plumbing fixtures

Note: This draft is still under development and subject to change; it should not be used for reference purposes.
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CSA B45 Technical Committee on Plumbing Fixtures CSA ASME Joint Harmonization Task Group on Plumbing Fixtures

Proposal for amendment

Project title: Project No.: Add definitions FX-08-07 Standard: ASME A112. 19.2-2008 / CSA B45.1-08

This proposal identifies deletions as text strike through and text additions as text underline.

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3. Definitions and abbreviations 3.1 Definitions The following definitions apply in this standard: Reverse draft moulding the area behind the leading edge of the side wall lip on both sides of the urinal shield. Spreader the top section of a urinal which delivers water through rim holes down the back wall of the urinal. Urinal lip the section in the bottom of a urinal that keeps the water from flowing out of the urinal when flushed. Shield the sides of the urinal that project from the wall that helps keep the individual's privacy while using the urinal.

Rationale: This proposal addresses comment 155 of CSA ballot No. 5006.

Shabbir Rawalpindiwala

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Proposal for amendment Project FX-09-05A Revise shower base flange dimensions
ASME A112.19.2-2008 / CSA B45.1-08 Ceramic plumbing fixtures
Note: This draft is still under development and subject to change; it should not be used for reference purposes.
Canadian Standards Association and The American Society of Mechanical Engineers. All rights reserved. This draft is for CSA and ASME committee use only. No part of this draft may be reproduced or redistributed, in whole or in part, by any means whatsoever without the prior permission of CSA or ASME. Permission is granted to members of the committees that are responsible for the development of this draft to reproduce this draft strictly for purposes of CSA or ASME standards-development activity. Canadian Standards Association 5060 Spectrum Way, Suite 100 Mississauga, Ontario, L4W 5N6 The American Society of Mechanical Engineers Three Park Avenue New York, NY, 10016-5990 1 May 11, 2009

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CSA B45 Technical Committee on Plumbing Fixtures CSA ASME Joint Harmonization Task Group on Plumbing Fixtures

Proposal for amendment

Project title: Project No.: Revise shower base flange dimensions FX-09-05A Standard: ASME A112. 19.2-2008 / CSA B45.1-08

This proposal identifies deletions as text strike through and text additions as text underline.

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4.9.3 Flanges Bathtubs and shower bases intended for installation against a wall shall incorporate a continuously raised flange or bead raised at least 8 mm (0.3 in) above the rim. The raised flange shall be (a) integral with the bathtub or shower base; (b) added to an island tub or shower base in the factory; or (c) field-installed using a flange installation kit compliant that complies with this Standard, in particular, with the requirements of Clause 6.5 and includes all necessary parts and fasteners. Fixtures using field-installed flanges shall include all necessary parts and fasteners and shall be marked in accordance with Clause 9.4.

Rationale: This project was opened as a result of comment 57 of CSA ballot No. 57. Objective is to make the language consistent among the ASME / CSA fixtures standards. Sally Remedios

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Proposal for amendment Project FX-09-07 Revise dye dilution ratio for urinals
ASME A112.19.2-2008 / CSA B45.1-08 Ceramic plumbing fixtures
Note: This draft is still under development and subject to change; it should not be used for reference purposes.
Canadian Standards Association and The American Society of Mechanical Engineers. All rights reserved. This draft is for CSA and ASME committee use only. No part of this draft may be reproduced or redistributed, in whole or in part, by any means whatsoever without the prior permission of CSA or ASME. Permission is granted to members of the committees that are responsible for the development of this draft to reproduce this draft strictly for purposes of CSA or ASME standards-development activity. Canadian Standards Association 5060 Spectrum Way, Suite 100 Mississauga, Ontario, L4W 5N6 The American Society of Mechanical Engineers Three Park Avenue New York, NY, 10016-5990 1a March 2010

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CSA B45 Technical Committee on Plumbing Fixtures CSA ASME Joint Harmonization Task Group on Plumbing Fixtures

Proposal for amendment

Project title: Project No.: Revise dye dilution ratio for urinals FX-09-07 Standard: ASME A112.19.2-2008 / CSA B45.1-08

This proposal identifies deletions as text strike through and text additions as text underline.

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8.5.2 Procedure The dye test shall be conducted as follows: (a) Add 5 g of the powder or dye to 1 L of water and mix the solution thoroughly. (b) Clean the test urinal, flush it once, and allow it to complete its flush cycle. (c) Add 30 mL of the dye solution to the water in the urinal well and mix it thoroughly. (d) Remove 10 mL of the dyeis solution from the urinal and add it to 1000 mL or 170 mL for high-efficiency urinals of clean water in a clean container (i.e., use a dilution ratio of 100:1 or 17:1 for high-efficiency urinals). Set aside a sample of this solution in a test tube or comparator vial as the control sample for all three test runs. (e) Flush the urinal and clean it to ensure that all traces of the dye have been removed. (f) Add 30 mL of the dye solution to the urinal and mix the solution. (g) Activate the flushing device and allow the urinal to complete its flush cycle. (h) Fill a test tube or comparator vial with the diluted solution from the urinal and compare it against the control sample. (i) Record the darkness of colour of the test sample relative to the control sample. Items (e) to (i) complete one test run. These steps shall be repeated until three sets of data are obtained.

Rationale: Presently the dye ration of 100:1 is based on the maximum consumption of 3.8 Lpf (1.0 gpf). With flush rates being reduced quite drastically to low as 0.5 L, a more realistic ratio of 17:1 for HEUs needs to be added. This proposed ratio is exactly the same as it is for a small flush for dual-flush water closet which has a maximum flush rate of 1.1 gpf.

Shabbir Rawalpindiwala

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Proposal for amendment Project FX-09-12A Tubs with integral overflows

ASME A112.19.2-2008 / CSA B45.1-08 Ceramic plumbing fixtures
Note: This draft is still under development and subject to change; it should not be used for reference purposes.
Canadian Standards Association and The American Society of Mechanical Engineers. All rights reserved. This draft is for CSA and ASME committee use only. No part of this draft may be reproduced or redistributed, in whole or in part, by any means whatsoever without the prior permission of CSA or ASME. Permission is granted to members of the committees that are responsible for the development of this draft to reproduce this draft strictly for purposes of CSA or ASME standards-development activity. Canadian Standards Association 5060 Spectrum Way, Suite 100 Mississauga, Ontario, L4W 5N6 The American Society of Mechanical Engineers Three Park Avenue New York, NY, 10016-5990 1a March 2010

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CSA B45 Technical Committee on Plumbing Fixtures CSA ASME Joint Harmonization Task Group on Plumbing Fixtures

Proposal for amendment

Project title: Project No.: Tubs with integral overflows FX-09-12A Standard: ASME A112. 19.2-2008 / CSA B45.1-08

This proposal identifies deletions as text strike through and text additions as text underline.

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Use the following revised figure:

Delete 45 measurement

Figure 1 Waste outlet dimensions

(See Clause 4.3.1.2.)

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CSA B45 Technical Committee on Plumbing Fixtures CSA ASME Joint Harmonization Task Group on Plumbing Fixtures

Proposal for amendment

Project title: Project No.: Tubs with integral overflows FX-09-12A Standard: ASME A112. 19.2-2008 / CSA B45.1-08

This proposal identifies deletions as text strike through and text additions as text underline.

Delete the following figure (existing):

Figure 1 Waste outlet dimensions

(See Clause 4.3.1.2.)

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CSA B45 Technical Committee on Plumbing Fixtures CSA ASME Joint Harmonization Task Group on Plumbing Fixtures

Proposal for amendment

Project title: Project No.: Tubs with integral overflows FX-09-12A Standard: ASME A112. 19.2-2008 / CSA B45.1-08

This proposal identifies deletions as text strike through and text additions as text underline.

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Use the following revised figure:

Figure 8 Dimensions for bathtubs

(See Clause 4.9.1.)

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CSA B45 Technical Committee on Plumbing Fixtures CSA ASME Joint Harmonization Task Group on Plumbing Fixtures

Proposal for amendment

Project title: Project No.: Tubs with integral overflows FX-09-12A Standard: ASME A112. 19.2-2008 / CSA B45.1-08

This proposal identifies deletions as text strike through and text additions as text underline.

Delete the following figure (existing):

Figure 8 Dimensions for bathtubs

(See Clause 4.9.1.)

Rationale: Tub manufacturers are making tubs with integral overflows and there are no fittings out there to fit these types of tubs. Tub manufacturers must supply the fittings and they have asked waste fitting manufacturers for such fittings; however, each fitting is unique. By standardizing the dimensions at the waste fitting, a standard fitting that would fit all tubs with integral overflows can be designed. Kevin Ernst

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