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T5 B49 Inspector Interviews - AA 77 FDR - Al Hazmi - Al Mihdhar - Memos - Notes - InS Info 132
T5 B49 Inspector Interviews - AA 77 FDR - Al Hazmi - Al Mihdhar - Memos - Notes - InS Info 132
T5 B49 Inspector Interviews - AA 77 FDR - Al Hazmi - Al Mihdhar - Memos - Notes - InS Info 132
\U$e of name in report: The Commission would agree, if you want, that the Commission
will not use your name or your personal information without prior consultation with
DHS/CBP about the information we seek to use. Unless we really feel the need, we
won't iise your name. However, we will not make the flat promise that we will not under
any circumstances use your name. (Circumstances when would use name: probably only
in making policy recommendations or factual information that requires a quote.)
Who else has interviewed you: DOJ OIG, FBI, DHS, CBP. No. Learned when received
letter. \o you recollect the. inspection of Hazmi and/or Midhar on January 15, 2000? No.
FLETC.
• When did you train? How long? Went to Charleston - 500 sent there -
March/April 1996. No firearms/no arrest techniques. Law and Spanish for 3
months (briefing on BP at FLECT).
• Document fraud? 2-3 full days from FDL; travel stamps, look at other entries.
• Databases? Were you ever aware as an inspector that your lookout searches
including a terrorist watchlist Databases -Yes. Terrorist watchlist - No.
Behavioral training? |_
Normal primary.
• Please describe the standard operating procedures you employ in primary
screening, including questions asked, documents reviewed, and databases
checkedj
* Return ticket/ flight itinerary. Did you always ask for flight itinerary for
unusual travel? For a return ticket? Only for VWP, because not required.
•/ Length of stay for Bis: was there a standard length of stay given pre 9/11? Was
that a port decision, or national operating policy? If you gave less than the
standard time, were there professional repercussions? 1 one or length of time
sought plus a few weeks. Over 6 months = supervisor's approval.
• Length of stay for B2s: was there any discretion in length of stay granted B2s
pre 9/11? Over 6 months = supervisor's approval.
• How did inspectors view Saudis pre 9/11? Ever considered a threat to
national security? No. Nor with my colleagues.
• At LAX, did you ever notice that any particular nationalities were treated
any differently than others? No, But had to do a Saudi prince one night
pre 9/11 and supervisor said "we gotta get "em outta here." 727 private
aircraft; 25-30 people - a lot of Filipino servants and body guards. Body
guards brought back all the passports at once and th'd hand them to me
and I asked who they are. Super said just approve. Did not do 100%
inspection.
• If you could not communicate with a Saudi, what would you do? On my
own, no preferential treatment.
\ Were there any Arabic speakers in INS inspections at Newark? Did you
\s have to rely on the airlines? Find interpreter - Visitor Service rep
- secondary - call DOJ.
Profiling.
• What unusual characteristics about an alien applying for admission would
\e you concern and result in a referral to secondary?
Law Enforcement Sensitive
What would you have done if you'd seen a lookout for Midhar?|
Changes at DHS.
What changes do you see on the front line with the new CBP? More attention to
detail; a lot of intel not current. USVISIT/NTC/Watchlisting; team training.
What effect has US VISIT had on entry and the inspection process? 100%
application; adds value to inspection; hits on biometrics; exact match referred to
secondary.
Use and value of SEVIS. I don't. If problem, then secondary. Automatic 1-20
check would be great.
• Adequate access to DOS visa via the Consular Consolidated Database. Yes! -
eliminates imposters, finding imposters.
• What if length of stay was tailored to the return airline ticket? Maybe.
• If you had a message for Commissioner Bonner what would it be? If processing
time more than 1 hour, notify port director; otherwise let us take our time.
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I Inspector No.| |
Primary inspector lorTVawaf
Nawaf al Hazmi and Mi<
Midhar
LAX International Airport on January 15,2000
Use of name in report: The Commission would agree, if you want, that the Commission
will hot use your name or your personal information without prior consultation with
DHS/CBP about the information we seek to use. Unless we really feel the need, we
won't use your name. However, we will not make the flat promise that we will not under
any circumstances use your name. (Circumstances when would use name: probably only
in making policy recommendations or factual information that requires a quote.)
Who else has interviewed you: DOJ OIG, FBI, DHS, CBP. f/o.
Do you recollect the inspection of Hazmi and/or Midhar on January 15, 2000? f* 0 •
FLETC.
• When did you train?
• Cultural training?
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• Behavioral training?
• Firearms training?
Normal primary.
• Please describe the standard operating procedures you employ in primary
screening, including questions asked, documents reviewe
checked. /
• Length of stay for Bis: was there a standard length of stay given pre 9/11? Was
that a port decision, or national operating policy? If you gave less than the
standard time, were there professional repercussions?
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Length of stay for B2s: was there any discretion in length of stay granted B2s
pre 9/11?
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• Have you received any training in reading documents other than
FLETC prior to 9/11? /^
• How did inspectors view Saudis pre 9/11? Ever considered a threat to
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What about Sautiis in particular? ^ <fat^i -A *<«*-
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• If you could not communicate with a Saudi, whm: would you do?
Were there any Arabic speakers in INS inspections at Newark? Did you
always have to rely on the airlines? ^j>? '/•
Profiling.
• What unusual characteristics about an alien applying for admission would
cause you concern and result in a referral to secondary?
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What would you have done if you'd seen a lookout for Midhar'ix
Changes at DBS.
What effect has US VISIT had on entry and the inspection process?
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Use and value of SEVIS.
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• What if length of stay was tailored to the return airline ticket?
DOE: 07/04/01
POE: New York, New York
Class of Entry: B-1 Visitor valid until 10/03/01
Country of Citizenship: Saudi Arabia
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DOE: 01/15/2000
POE: Los Angeles, California
Class of Entry: B-2 Visitor valid until 07/14/2000 [OverStay]
Country of Citizenship: Saudi Arabia
9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy
Use' of name m report: The Commission would agree, if you want, that the Commission
will ript use your name or your personal information without prior consultation with
DHS/CBP about the information we seek to use. Unless we really feel the need, we
won't use% your name. However, we will not make the flat promise that we will not under
any circumstances use your name. (Circumstances when would use name: probably only
in making pplicy recommendations or factual information that requires a quote.)
Who else has interviewed you: DOT OIQ, FBI, DHS, CBP. bio.
FLETC.
• When did you train? How long?
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Document fraud? I
Databases? Were you ever aware as an inspector that your lookout searches
including a ^atchlist ;
^secondary inspections?
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• Behav^im^
Normal primary.
• Please describWhe standard ^pg^^4ffg-rrrrffi:p^":pg you employ in primary
screening, including questions asked. dor.nmenTs rpvi^wpiH and
checked.)
Return ticket/ flight itinerary. Did you always ask for flight itinerary for
unusual travel? For a return ticket? /htor& O^tifLfS -fir
Length of stay for Bis: was there a standard length of stay given pre 9/1 1? Was
that a port decision, or national operating policy? If you gave less than the
standard time, were there professional repercussions?.
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Length of stay for B2s: was there any discretion in length of stay granted B2s
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• How did inspectors view Saudis pre 9/11? Ever considered a threat,to
national security?
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Were there any Arabic speakers in INS inspections awewwW? Did you
always have to rely-on the airlines?
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• Would the airline help you out? 64*&~
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Profiling.
• What unusual characteristics about an alien applying for admission would
cause you concern and result in a referral to secondary?
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Customs declaration.
What would you have done if you'd seen a lookout for Midhar? l/
Changes at DHS.
• What changes do you see on the front line with the new CBP?
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Are you familiar with National Targeting Center?
• What effect ha/US VISIT had on entry and the inspection process?-
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Flight #77
DOE: 07/04/01
POE: New York, New York
Class of Entry: B-1 Visitor valid until 10/03/01
Country of Citizenship: Saudi Arabia
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FACSIMILE TRANSMITTAL
CD 2110-035
Date: March 24, 2004 Control Number:
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Number of Pages
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Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 3:38 PM
to: Janice Kephart-Roberts
Cc: Surrett, William R
Subject: TECS Records
for Nawaf Al-Hamzi. Here are the records. They were entered into TECS on August 24, 2001.
If you need copies from the TECS system
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REVOKE ANY AND ALL NONIMMIGRANT VISAS THAT MAY BE HELD BY KHALID BIN MUHAMMAD
BIN ABDALLAH AL-MIHDHAR, DPOB: 16 MAY, 1975> SAUDI ARABIA. THIS ACTION IS BASED
ON THE FACT THAT SUBSEQUENT TO VI$A ISSUANCE, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THE ALIEN
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Who else has interviewed you: DOJ OJG. FBI, DHS, CBP. f/o.
Do you recoil jet the inspection of Ha^mi and/or Midhar on January 1 5, 2.000? /* Q •
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standard time, were there professional repercussions? •"
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• Length of stay for B2s: was there any discretion in length of stay granted B2s
pre9/ll?
• Databases? U£CTC you ever aware as an inspector that your lookout searches
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• How did inspectors view Saudis pre 9/1 1 ? Ever considered a thf eat to
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DOE: 07/04*1
POE: New York, New York
Class or Entry: B-1 Visitor valid until 10/03/01
Country of Citizenship: Saudi Arabia
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9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy night # 77
DOE: 01/15/2000
POE: Los Angeles, California
Class of Entry: B-2 Visitor valid until 07/14/2000 [OverStay]
Country of Citizenship: Saudi Arabia
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\ Inspector No. |
Primary inspector for Midhar
JFK International Airport on July 4, 2001
Use of name in report: The Commission would agree, if you want, that the Commission
wil'1-.not use your name or your personal information without prior consultation with
DHS/CBP about the information we seek to use. Unless we really feel the need, we
won't use your name. However, we will not make the flat promise that we will not under
any circumstances use your name. (Circumstances when would use name: probably only
in making policy recommendations or factual information that requires a quote.)
Who else has interviewed you: DOJ OIG, FBI, DHS, CBP. No. Learned last week (week
of May 17, 2004),
Were you assigned no.I |on that date? Received stamp on 2/27/01.
Length of service at INS. October 24, 1998 - primary - had done some secondary
inspections.
• Databases? Were you ever aware as an inspector that your lookout searches
including a watchlist Databases - not of value in secondary. Very general
information. How to query names, but didn't learn about database. JFK can only
look at primary screen; no hit - no referral. Didn't know checking for terrorists
pre9/ll.
• Firearms training? A lot - very good. Maritime inspections - put away here at
airport. Only supervisors pre 9/11 in secondary.
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Normal primary.
• Please describe the standard operating procedures you employ in primary
screening, including questions asked, documents reviewed, and databases
checked. I "~~~~~"~~""~"""~
• Return ticket/ flight itinerary. Did you always ask £6r.flight itinerary for
unusual travel? For a return ticket? Always asked for return ticket for B1/B2.
Look at route. 9/11 Law Enforcement Sensitive
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• Length of stay for Bis: was there a standard length of stay given pre 9/11? Was
that a port decision, or national operating policy? If you gave less than the
standard time, were there professional repercussions? Port policy - 3 months
always; couldn't go less. If give more, 3-12 , can do without supervisor but need
to write explanation.
• Length of stay for B2s: was there any discretion in length of stay granted B2s
pre 9/11? Not automatic to secondary for over 6 months; if have documentation
proof, = 1 year.
for screening. Yes - lower professional rating and can hold up promotion if
take too much time.
• How did inspectors view Saudis pre 9/11? Ever considered a threat to
national security? Yes. Businessman - backed by USG, lots of
documentation; escorted by airlines; spend $ here; didn't come to stay or
work. No overstay -j J
• At JFK, did you ever notice that any particular nationalities were treated any
differently than others? Not looking deep into flight - did it on other flights
pre 9/11, but not the Saudi flights. Still pressure today.
• If you could not communicate with a Saudi, what would you do?
• Were there any Arabic speakers in INS inspections at JFK? Did you
always have to rely on the airlines? No. - don't trust them.
• Would the airline help you out? Yes - Saudia - have address and say
whey they are here.
Profiling.
• What unusual characteristics about an alien applying for admission would
cause you concern and result in a referral to secondary?
• Midhar's primary inspection, (show documents).
• 1-94. B1 - her handwriting. Nothing unusual. For Bl, allowed to use hotels and
same for B2s, also usually OK. Country issuance page - no expiration date on
passport; can't admit beyond expiration of passport. Doesn't foresee anything else
of interest.
• Customs declaration.
• What would vou have done if you'd seen a lookout for Midhar? Referred. If
Changes at DHS.
• What changes do you see on the front line with the new CBP?
• Are you familiar with National Targeting Center? Yes, no direct contact.
• What effect has US VISIT had on entry and the inspection process? Everybody
should be subjected to it - need WVPP (French stolen blanks). Forget about
inspection in trying to learn technology.
• Adequate access to DOS visa via the Consular Consolidated Database. Yes.
Sometimes not in. Schengen Visas very good fraud; black lite not working.
• What if length of stay for B1/B2 was tailored to the return airline ticket? Yes.
• If you had a message for Commissioner Bonner what would it be? No morej |
I I US VISIT to include VWPP; want to be more enforcement oriented;
still feel like facilitator rather than enforcer. .
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