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CivilEQuinn (Civil/Environme) Hi,

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I am a site engineer for a local public utility. We are installing a new 14'x14' reinforced cast-inshortening the distance of the blasting operations to freshly placed concrete.

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My question is: what are the distance and vibration (peak particle velocity) limits that we should 100 feet away from the blasting, while the highest PPV we're been getting from monitoring is <

Are you a Engineering professional? I found a study from the early 80's by Ralph Spears (http://www.concreteconstruction.net/Images/Effect%20of%20Blasting,%20Jarr Join Eng-Tips now!

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340996.pdf) and another (http://www.concreteconstruction.net/Images/How%20Do%20Blasting,%20Jarri 348668.pdf). Does anyone know of a more recent study/paper that might be relevant? Thanks ahead for any assistance.

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HSIII (Structural) I would suggest maybe deleting your post here and reposting this in the Structural engineering

cvg (Civil/Environme) 2 ips or less is generally recommended as a safe limit for residential structures and a significant would be highly dependant on the strength of your "freshly placed" concrete. 0.2 ips or less is recommended to avoid disturbing the public Good resource, not more recent, but that makes no difference - see chapter 7: Publication Number: EM 1110-2-3800 Title: Engineering and Design - Systematic Drilling and Blasting for Surface Excavations http://140.194.76.129/publications/eng-manuals/em1110-2-3800/toc.htm BigH (Geotechnical)

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Please do not double post - frowned upon heavily - leads to disjointed responses. I've asked th CivilEQuinn (Civil/Environme) Oops, At HSIII's suggestion I reposted in the Structural -soil mechanics forum and requested th Thanks! Qshake (Structural) I've posted in the soil mechanics forum several links that should be of use. Regards,

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"...This forum is the most Qshake (Structural) helpful site I've ever used. I just in case that one is deleted: used to use Deja.com; but, this site is better - hands down!..." More... Here is another source I've found that I'm familiar with:

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http://www.dot.state.fl.us/research-center/Completed_Proj/Summary_CN/FDOT_ I believe that the second link is more applicable. other links

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http://www.allbusiness.com/manufacturing/nonmetallic-mineral-product-manufac Another of the Spears article:

http://www.concreteconstruction.net/concrete-articles/effect-of-blasting-jarring-a And a TRB report http://rip.trb.org/browse/dproject.asp?n=11461 Regards, Qshake Eng-Tips Forums:Real Solutions for Real Problems Really Quick. HSIII (Structural) Yea...looks like your soil mechanics placed one got deleted instead of this one.

BigH...guess that was my bad. Thought this one would be taken care of before anything happe BigH (Geotechnical)

A proj specs of which I am aware says something like: 1. no blasting to take place within 8 m of concrete less than 3 days old 2. blasting near permanent works within 30 m shall be such that the peak particle velocites a. do not exceed 300 mm/s for mass concrete greater than 450 mm thick; or new mass con b. 50 mm/s existing and new timber frame structures c. 150 mm/s at transmission line structures.

for 2011 miningman (Mining) Personally I would have no problem blasting 50 -100 feet away from a concrete structure but b abilities of the blaster himself... not the contractor.

The old rule of thumb used to be that anything less than 50mm /sec would not produce new c cracks in igneous rock. So all the previously quoted values are in the ball park but if you need ?? What type of detonation system is proposed ?? What is the influence of the local geology t BigH (Geotechnical) There are expansive chemicals that can be used to split the rock without blasting - might be mo InDepth (Structural) Why not try a high early strength admixture in the concrete. DWHA (Structural) What I would do is look in your DOT spec book. There should be a section about max energy t that that energy at the location of the concrete at a minimum be less that the energy allowed fo has reached design strenght. In my experience, most concete meets the design strength in 7 d on their dime.
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