fV\ F~D~O 18559

MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD

Event: Interview of FBI Supervisory Special Agen1....

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Type of event: Interview

Date: November 20, 2003

Special Access Issues: DSM

Prepared by: Dieter Snell, 12/8/03

Team Number: lA

Location: FBI, Los Angeles Field Office ",/9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy

Participants - Non-Commission: FBI Assistant G~~\~.,:,:,C",:,:,:,:",:o""",un"",

se1 Randy Blair
Participants - Commission: Diete~,Sh~ll, John Tamm

In September 2001, Supervisory Special Agent] ," Iwas assigned to

SSRA Herb Brown's terro~s,rii squad. On September 18, 2001~ \, [accompanied
Special Agenf lat the interview of Ramez Noaman. They-found Noaman in an
apartment in Pomona, near a mosque (that used to be a bowling alley) ....Noaman was of
immediate interest because he was named on the same auto insurance policy as hijacker
Nawaf Al-Hazmi. ", '.

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During the interview, Noaman promptly admitted knowing AI-H~z;:m::.l:.:.:> .....
does not recall whether the agents showed Noaman a photo of Al-Hazmi, :-1... ..."
doesn't believe Noaman told the agents all he knew.

According to Noaman, he was approached by Yazid Al-Salmi regarding the

insurance arrangement. Noaman considered himself one of AI-Hazmi's few friends,
recalling that only Khalid AI-Mihdhar and Al-Salmi associated with him. He was
introduced to AI-Hazmi by Modhar Abdullah at the ICSD. Noaman did not recall ever
having any political discussions with AI-Hazmi.

At one point, Al-Hazmi told Noaman that Al-Mihdhar had returned to the Middle
East. Thereafter, Al-Hazmi's landlord, a professor named Abdusattar, told Noaman that
Al-Hazrni had gone to Arizona and gave Noaman AI-Hazmi's email address, some time
after Noaman moved into Noaman's home. Noaman and AI-Hazmi exchanged 2-3
emails.

The interview lasted 1-2 hours and included a consent search and copying of the
contents of No am an's wallet. The FBI imaged the hard drive of Noaman's computer and
found approximately 12 contacts with Al-Hazmi,
 At the time of the interview, Noaman was attending Cal. Poly .. He possessed a
credit card in the name of some business, which he said he was trying to use to enhance
his credit. Noaman also claimed to have ~ rich uncle or grandfather who periodically
would send him money. Other investigation confirmed that Noaman was from Yemen
and reportedly belonged to a wealthy family.

During the interview, Noaman recalled accompanying AI-Mihdhar and AI-Hazmi

to a small airport where flying instruction was given, 5-10 minutes from the ICSD, so
that Al-Hazmi could take a brief flight. Noaman and Al-Mihdhar remained on the
ground during the flight, but had no discussion of consequence. Noaman did recall acting
as an interpreter for a discussion AI-Hazmi had with the flying instructor regarding flying
lessons and, specifically, about learning to fly big planes by starting out on small ones.
According to Noaman, this conversation took place in August or September 2000, that is,
about a year before the interview. Noaman also recalled that Al-Hazmi used a credit card
to pay for the flight, which cost about $20. The instructor/pilot was a Causian male.

At the time of his interview, INS found that Noaman was enrolled in school and
therefore in compliance with immigration regulations.