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Sourav Singh - Aug 26, 2013

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Thanks a lot for this. Where can I find similar documents for IFS(foreign) and IPS?

In IFS u don't have cadres. u r allotted to learn different languages primarily UN's official
languages in those countries itself.......... normally the accommodation is good but abroad doesn't
have much staff......... lots of evening parties at embassies of different countries. all countries
diplomats respect each other. Business class air-travel, 5-7 star hotels during abroad visits,
conferences with international organs like UNO, frequent official trips to Switzerland, UK,
USA and India's neighbouring countries. diplomatic passport counters at airports, diplomatic
immunity, all vvips(politicians+film stars+ cricketers) visiting foreign country generally contact
Indian embassy. In IPS cadres are more or less the same with but obvious police related law and
order dimensions.
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^Thanks. Is it true that they travel business class and get 5-7 star hotel stay? I read somewhere that it
becomes hard to manage with the pay even with FSA in some countries. Unlike IAS officers who get
everything arranged via Nazir's there is no cook or driver. Car has to be purchased with own money/loan
as well, but government will provide transportation fees for your transfers. Also, they can only take one
paid trip back to India every three years. A round trip from the US costs about $900 so basically a
month's salary is lost if there is some emergency back home? And the government does not provide for
expenses of parents', or even spouse if she is travelling with you wherever you go.

Would be glad if some of my queries are answered.

Sourav Singh - Aug 26, 2013
sure. I told u there is a staff crunch abroad and u won't get cooks or drivers until very senior. Forget abt
it. in IAS also if u r thinking u will get cooks, then pls don't listen to famed and 'cooked' up stories. Cooks
are only for DM/DC mainly for district attachment and not for headquarters like state capital,
secretariat(exceptions r there). Yes cars have to b purchased but abroad cars r not a problem. u get good
2nd hand cars at cheap prices and basically the embassy ppl keep purchasing the same old cars from
previous diplomats. Don't u see lavish cars of embassies in Delhi? Paid trip to India is for family(nt sure
of it but it does not include parents). now if u r in USA a trip wud cost more but why forget frequent
flyer benefits from Airlines. Diplomats take 10-15 international flights/ year which gives them immense
benefits for frequent flyers rebate tickets. and USA, South America are not only places. Europe,
neighbouring countries, South east, Australia, Mid -East are also options+ India is making it global image
so scope and amenities for Indian diplomats are bound to increase.

Tuesday, August 20, 2013
Cadre Preferences for IAS/IPS & Service Preference
http://ghanshyamthori.blogspot.in/2013/08/cadre-preferences-for-iasips.html
As the prelims result is out, I got a few queries regarding cadre preference. Now preference of cadres
will vary from one aspirant to another as typically (& not all) one prefers his/her home state and
neighboring states. Also the personality of an individual (comfort seeking, challenge seeking etc) will
play an important role. I am putting here an indicative list of cadre preference (which I opted for during
my attempt). Please please note that it is just indicative & a personal opinion. You are free to even
follow it in reverse order!!!!!!

PREFERENCE ORDER FOR IAS
1. Rajasthan (Rajasthan being my home state & a very good cadre in general).
2. Haryana
3. Punjab
4. Madhya Pradesh
5. Uttar Pradesh (A good cadre with probably longest tenures for direct IAS/IPS as Collector/SP)
6. Gujarat
7. AGMUT
8. Maharashtra
9. Himachal Pradesh
10. Uttarakhand
11. Karnataka
12. Chhattisgarh
13. Bihar
14. Jharkhand
15. Orissa
16. Tamil Nadu
17. Andhra Pradesh
18. Assam-Meghalaya (A largely peaceful and good cadre)
19. Sikkim
20. J&K (Out of 22 districts only 4-5 districts have direct IAS/IPS posted as Collector/SP)
21. Kerala
22. West Bengal
23. Manipur-Tripura
24. Nagaland

PREFERENCE ORDER FOR IPS
1. Rajasthan (Rajasthan being my home state & a very good cadre in general).
2. AGMUT
3. Haryana
4. Madhya Pradesh
5. Uttar Pradesh (A good cadre with probably longest tenures for direct IAS/IPS as Collector/SP)
6. Gujarat
7. Maharashtra
8. Punjab
9. Himachal Pradesh
10. Uttarakhand
11. Karnataka
12. Tamil Nadu
13. Andhra Pradesh
14. Chhattishgarh
15. Bihar
16. Jharkhand
17. Orissa
18. Assam-Meghalaya (A largely peaceful and good cadre)
19. Sikkim
20. J&K (Out of 22 districts only 4-5 districts have direct IAS/IPS posted as Collector/SP)
21. Kerala
22. West Bengal
23. Manipur-Tripura
24. Nagaland

AGMUT is a very good cadre for IPS. Again I went to mention that this list is indicative only. It is biased in
favor of north Indian states as I am from Rajasthan. Please consult your peers, faculty and family
members before finalizing the list. It is very important to fill in the preference carefully. There were
quite a few cases of sorry stories in my batch because of improper preferences of cadre. Good Luck!!

An indicative list of Service Preference is mentioned below

1. IAS
2. IFS
3. IPS
4. IRS (IT)
5. IRS (C&CE)
6. Indian Account and Audit Service
7. IRTS
8. DANICS
9. DANIPS
10. IDES
11. IDAS
12. AFHQ
13. IRAS
14. Civil Accounts
15. ICLS
16 IRPS
17 RPF
18 IIS
19 IP&TAFS
20 Postal Service
21 Ordinance Facotry

In the list above the first five service (upto IRS customs) are preferred generally in the same order. IAAS
& IRTS are preferred equally as 6th preference. Beyond 7th preference this list does not accurately
reflect the conditions of service. I have very limited information regarding service below IRTS, therefore
please consult someone who knows (preferably someone who is working in any of these services).
Another way of gauging the preference order can be accessing the service allocation list (by rank) of
previous years on the portal of Ministry of Personnel (DoPT). The link is:

http://persmin.gov.in/AIS1/QrySA.asp

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