In Serbian, there are two main words for father: tata and otac (pronounced otats) and four

words
for mother: mama, mati, matera, majka.

tat(a) - father
mat(a) = root for mother in Slavic languages

In Serbian expression TATAMATA means someone who knows all and can do all. Literal meaning
of this expression is "father and mother", "parent", "ancestor", "progenitor", "creator", the one from
which all knowledge comes from.

In Serbian we also have these two words:

baba (grandmother), deda (grandfather).

"Baba" is a type of stone statue, an idol whose meaning and purpose is still debated. It is
presumed that they are associated with the cult of the ancestors. These stone images,
anthropomorphic stone sculptures, range in height from 1 to 4 m.

The earliest anthropomorphic stelae date to the 4th millennium BC, and are associated with the
early Bronze Age Yamna Horizon, in particular with the Kemi Oba culture of the Crimea and
adjacent steppe region. Those in Ukraine number around three hundred, most of them very crude
stone slabs with a simple schematic protruding head and a few features such as eyes or breasts
carved into the stone. Some twenty specimens, known as statue menhirs, are more complex,
featuring ornaments, weapons, human or animal figures.

The simple, early type of anthropomorphic stelae are also found in the Alpine region of Italy,
southern France and Portugal. Examples have also been found in Bulgaria at Plachidol, Vezevero,
and Durankulak. The example illustrated above was found at Hamangia-Baia, Romania.

The distribution of later stelae is limited in the west by the Odessa district, Podolsk province,
Galicia, Kalisz province, Prussia; in the south by Kacha River, Crimea; in the south-east by Kuma
River in the Stavropol province and Kuban region; in the north by Minsk province and Oboyan
district of the Kursk province (in some opinions even the Ryazan province), Ahtyr district in the
Kharkov province, Voronej province, Balash and Atkar districts in the Saratov province to the
banks of Samara River in Buzuluk districts in the Samara province, in the east they are spread in
the Kyrgyz (Kazakh) steppe to the banks of the Irtysh River and to Turkestan (near Issyk Kul,
Tokmak district), then in upper courses of rivers Tom and Yenisei, in Sagai steppe in Mongolia
(according to Potanin and Yadrintseva).

The Cimmerians of the early 1st millennium BC left a small number (about ten are known) of
distinctive stone stelae. Another four or five "deer stones" dating to the same time are known from
the northern Caucasus.

From the 7th century BC, Scythian tribes began to dominate the Pontic steppe. They were in turn
displaced by the Sarmatians from the 2nd century BC, except in Crimea, where they persisted for
a few centuries longer. These peoples left carefully crafted stone stelae, with all features cut in
deep relief.

Early Slavic stelae are again more primitive. There are some thirty sites of the middle Dniestr
region where such anthropomorphic figures were found. The most famous of these is the Zbruch
Idol (c. 10th century), a post measuring about 3 meters, with four faces under a single pointed hat
(c.f. Svetovid). Boris Rybakov argued for identification of the faces with the gods Perun, Makosh,
Lado and Veles.

The following picture shows examples of Baba statues from Eurasian steppes: 1. Stone statue
standing above a burial site in Central Asia. 2. A statue presently standing in the garden of the
Bishkek museum, Kyrgyzstan. 3. Scythian statue holding a cylindrical vessel from Kiev, Ukraine.
4. Statue from the Autonomous Republic of Tuva, Russia. 5. From the city of Taraz - Jambul
Oblast of Kazakhstan (2).


There are two types of "Baba" statues.

First type are the statues of male warriors, fully armed, are made of monolithic boulders that were
first roughly hewn, then skillfully turned into low relief shapes with a chisel. Most of these warriors
were portrayed as wearing a helmet, a broad belt with a sword, battle axe, and a heavy necklace
testifying to their status. Typically, there were three or four items found on them horn, quiver,
dagger, and/or sword. These are male ancestor, progenitor statues. Sometimes these male
ancestor statues are just phallic shaped standing stones.

Second type are statues portraying a woman with naked breasts and hands near or on her vagina.
These are female progenitor statues. Sometimes these statues are stylized female
shaped standing stones.

Noted Ukrainian archaeologist, Terenozhkin, insisted that the stone statues were placed
along the perimeter of the Scythian state, and that they were regarded as deities that stood
guard of the Scythian lands.

The origin of the name Baba is unclear. It could be derived from Slavic word baba meaning
grandmother, progenitor. In Serbian word "babica" means midwife, word "babienje" means
labour. The name can equally come from from Turkic word baba meaning father.

It is very interesting that we find these Baba statues in the north of Ireland, in the area which was
in the Early medieval times inhabited by people of Cruithin (Pictish) origin.

Baba stones:

Ukraine



Prussia



Northern Ireland




Mongolia



Kyrgyzstan




Northern Ireland






These statues are extremely unusual for Ireland. We don't know their exact original location or
whether there were more of these statues around Ireland. Were these boundary markers of the
western border of the Scythian empire?
Crom Cruach or Cromm Craich, also known as Cenn Cruach or Cenncroithi, was a deity in pre-
Christian Ireland, reputedly propitiated with human sacrifice, whose worship is said to have been
ended by St. Patrick. According to an Irish dinsenchas ("place-lore") poem in the 12th century
Book of Leinster, Crom Cruach's cult image, consisting of a gold figure surrounded by twelve
stone figures, stood on Magh Slcht ("the plain of prostration") in County Cavan, and was
propitiated with first-born sacrifice in exchange for good yields of milk and grain. He is related to
the later mythological and folkloric figure Crom Dubh. The festival for Crom Cruach is called
Domhnach Crom Dubh, Crom Dubh Sunday.
Serbian tradition records existence of stone circles with a central stone or totem in the centre of
the circle. The main standing stone or totem, was called Baba, meaning progenitor.

Here is an example of one of those stone "baba" stones from Stip in Makedonia:



What is very interesting is that it seems that Baba stones are linked to calendar and the end of the
year.

In Christian chronicles from 13th century, pagans were called "babuni", probably because they
made and worshiped stone idols called baba. These babuni were in Christian chronicles accused
of making and worshipping stone idols. These stone idols were in Christian chronicles named as
"Kumir".

On the picture below are baba stones. First picture on the left is Scythian Baba stone. The other
two are baba, kumir, steak standing stones from Bosnia. Please note how the face is created with
the the same symbol. This is glagolitic letter V, first letter of words vid (sight, light, sun), vede
(knowledge). This is the first letter of the name of the sun god Vid, sveti Vid, Svetovid. The design
looks similar to the ideogram for Leo (zodiac). The Leo constellation is connected in almost every
way to the sun. In the zodiac, Leo is a fire sign and represents those born in the summer months.
In ancient times, the constellation lined up almost perfectly with the summer solstice. Leo's
brightest star, Regulus, was often called the "Red Flame" and was thought to contribute to the
heat of summer. Today middle of the Leo falls on the 2nd of August, the day of thundering sun
Ilios, Perun, Crom Dubh. There are numerous representations of thunder and sun gods as well as
mother goddesses, goddesses of the land and fertility standing on lions, or between lions. It is the
symbol of the longest day, the position on which the sun is highest in sky, and closest to the
equator.



The following picture (from excellent book "STECI, LA I BOGUMILI") shows Vinji Bog (High
God) with his Son Boi (Little god). These type of stone images date from the time of mixed
christian pagan religion which existed in Serbia called "Poluverci" which means half believers.
These people Christianized old Slavic gods Svarog and Svaroi (Dabog, Hromi daba, Chrom
Dubh) and continued worshiping them as Father and son. Please note the same glagolitic symbol
V for Vid, Sight, Light, Sun.



Here is another example of Baba stone from Bosnia. Please note the white horse of Svetovid
symbolizing the summer solstice under the sun cross:



Crom Dubh was then probably regarded as the progenitor, the ancestor of the Fomori, Pomori,
Pomorjani in the same way that Hromi Daba was regarded as progenitor of the Serbs.

This is anthropomorphic "cross", originally probably a Baba stone, on the rock-monastery of
Skellig Michael in county Kerry:




The following three anthropomorphic "crosses", Baba stones belong to the same type. In the first
row, the first one is Scythian Baba standing stone from Ukraine, the second one is Baba, kumir,
steak standing stones from Bosnia. In the second row, the first one is fallen Baba standing stone
from Bulgaria, and the second one is an anthropomorphic "cross", Baba stone from Kilbroney,
county Down, Ireland. These are all identical, prechristian symbols.




What is very interesting is that these type of crosses are in Hungary called "Cuman" Crosses.

In medieval times, the tradition of erecting Baba stones was continued by Cumans, a nomadic
Turkic tribe of uncertain origin.
Cumans inhabited a shifting area north of the Black Sea and along the Volga River known as
Cumania, where the Cuman-Kipchaks meddled in the politics of the Caucasus and Khwarezm.
Many eventually settled to the west of the Black Sea, influencing the politics of Kievan Rus', the
Golden Horde, the Second Bulgarian Empire, Serbia, the Kingdom of Hungary, Moldavia, Georgia
and Wallachia. Cuman and Kipchak tribes joined politically to create the Cuman-Kipchak
confederation. The Cumans were nomadic warriors of the Eurasian steppe who exerted an
enduring impact on the medieval Balkans. The basic instrument of Cuman political success was
military force, which dominated each of the warring Balkan factions. Groups of the Cumans settled
and mingled with the local population in regions of the Balkans. Those Cumans that settled in
the Balkans were the founders of three successive Bulgarian dynasties (Asenids, Terterids,
and Shishmanids) and the Wallachian dynasty (Basarabids). But, in the cases of the
Basarab and Asenid dynasties, medieval documents refer to them as Vlach (Romanian)
dynasties. They played an active role in Byzantium, the Kingdom of Hungary, and Serbia, with
Cuman immigrants being integrated into each country's elite.
The Cumans originally lived east of the large bend of the Yellow River in China. They entered the
grassland of Eastern Europe in the 11th century, from where they continued to assault the
Byzantine Empire, the Kingdom of Hungary, and Kievan Rus'. The vast territory of the Cuman-
Kipchak realm consisted of loosely connected tribal units who were the dominant military force but
were never politically united by a strong central power. There was no state or empire of Cumania.
Despite their historical status, the ethnic origins of the Cumanians are uncertain. The Cumans
were reported to have blond hair, although their anthropological characteristics suggests that their
geographical origin might be in Inner-Asia, South-Siberia, or as Istvan Vassary states - east of the
Yellow River in China. al Marwazi, in his writings (c. 1120) states that the 'Qun" people came from
the northern Chinese borders - "the land of Qitay" (possibly during a part of a migration from
further east). After leaving the lands of the Kitans, they entered the territory of the Shari/Sari
people. From there the Cumans eventually reached the southern Russian steppes. It cannot be
concluded whether the Cumans conquered the Kipchaks or simply represent the western mass of
largely Kipchak-Turkic speaking tribes.

The name Kipchak/Qipcak was not in use amongst the Cumans; Qun, Quman' was used. The
Cumans' name in German was Falones, Phalagi, Valvi, Valewen, Valani. In Polish it was Poowcy,
Plauci (Kumanowie), in Russian it was , Polovtsy, in Ukrainian it was , Polovtsi,
in Czech it was Plavci. German name mean "yellow", in reference to the color of the Cumans' hair.
The Slavic word Polov, Plau, Plav means Blue but also Blond. Kuman means "pale yellow" in
Turkic. So all the people who came in contact with Cumans named them "Golden", "Blond",
because they must have been unusually blond compared with all the people that they came in
contact with. This is very unusual for Turkic people and Central Asian people of Mongol
origin. Genetically, Cuman people are Europeans of mostly R1a, G2a and R1b genetic types.
In his work "Cumans in medieval Serbia", Aleksandar Uzelac says:
First contacts between Cumans and Serbs took place at the end of the 11th beginning of the
12th century. Cuman presence in Serbian lands is attested from mid 13th century, when,
according to a western contemporary source, group of nomads fled from Hungary and found
refuge in Bulgaria, Greece and Serbia during the Mongol invasion (1241-1242). As mercenaries,
Cumans participated in the struggle between king Stephen Uro I and his son Stephen Dragutin in
the years of c.1271-1276. Dramrgutins younger brother and successor king Stephen Uro II
Milutin (1282-1321) also employed Cuman horsemen, totaling 2.000 in number, thus being the
largest foreign military contingent in Medieval Serbia. They apparently also represented royal
bodyguard. In 1312 they were ceded to Byzantine emperor Andronicus II. Eight years later, Milutin
vainly insisted on their return; eventually in 1327 Cumans were settled on Aegean islands.In
Serbian sources written in the first half of the 14th century (Lives of Serbian kings, by archbishop
Daniel II and his successor) Cumans were always mentioned under their proper name;
distinguished from other eastern peoples Tatars, Alans and Turks. In later texts (so-called Old
Serbian Chronicles, dated from late 14th century) this trait fades, due to the temporal distance
from the events they describe and also due to the penetration of byzantine manner of using
archaic instead of contemporary ethnonyms in Serbian medieval literature. Therefore, its not
surprising that in those documents one can find term Scythians instead of Cumans. Another
result of this process was that Cuman acquired new meaning "heathen, pagan", as in the
text commonly known as Bulgarian Apocryphal Chronicle. In the royal charters of Nemanji
dynasty dated from 13th-14th century, there are many personal names and place-names of
Cuman origin. Their frequency and diffusion indicates that the influence of those resilient, warlike
and omnipresent nomads, although indirectly, had been far greater in Medieval Serbia than one
can discern from scarce information regarding their military service. Their stronghold was in the
Area of south Carpathian mountains of Eastern Serbia.
So Cumans continued the Scythian tradition of building Baba stone idols and both Romans and
Serbs considered Cumans to be descendants of Scythians. But did Cumans build the "Cuman"
crosses?

Considering that we know that word Cuman became synonym for "pagan", were these crosses
erected by Cumans as in Cuman people or Cumans as in Pagans? A lot of the "Cuman" Crosses,
Cumirs, Kumirs, have Slavic religious symbols, like solar wheel of Svetovid:



Like on this "Solar" cross from Romania:




Here are some more anthropomorphic crosses from across Central Europe. First row: Bosnia,
Serbia, Albania (Serbian Monastery), Romania, Hungary. Second row Belarus.



The same areas reported as Cuman Strongholds in medieval Balkans are also areas where we
find Vlahs, Celts. These are the areas along the Carpathian mountains and Balkan mountains.
These are the same areas where we find Celtic Crosses and High Concentration of R1b Y
chromosome. There are numerous Celtic archaeological finds from all over Balkans. Are there any
people whose name sounds similar to Cumani but who are associated with Celts?

There are: Cimmerians, Cimbri, Cumru.
The Cimmerians or Kimmerians (Greek: , Kimmerioi) were an ancient Indo-European
people living north of the Caucasus and the Sea of Azov as early as 1300 BC. Herodotus thought
the Cimmerians and the Thracians closely related, writing that both peoples originally inhabited the
northern shore of the Black Sea, and both were displaced about 700 BC, by invaders from the
east. Whereas the Cimmerians would have departed this ancestral homeland by heading east and
south across the Caucasus, the Thracians migrated southwest into the Balkans, where they
established a successful and long-lived culture. Premodern historians asserted Cimmerian
descent for the Celts or the Germans, arguing from the similarity of Cimmerii to Cimbri or Cymry. It
is unlikely that either Proto-Celtic or Proto-Germanic entered western Europe as late as the 7th
century BC; their formation was commonly associated with the Bronze Age Urnfield and Nordic
Bronze Age cultures, respectively. It is, however, conceivable that a small-scale (in terms of
population) 8th century "Thraco-Cimmerian" migration triggered cultural changes that contributed
to the transformation of the Urnfield culture into the Hallstatt C culture, ushering in the European
Iron Age. Later Cimmerian remnant groups may have spread as far as to the Nordic Countries and
the Rhine River. An example is the Cimbri tribe, considered to be a Germanic tribe hailing from the
Himmerland (Old Danish Himber sysl) region in northern Denmark.
Serbian medieval Nemanji dynasty claimed descent from Cimmerians.

What happened here? Did Cumans mix with Cimerians, Celtic Vlahs and Slavs and create a
hybrid culture in Central Europe? Probably. But all these people also shared the same old cultural
roots which go back to the times of Scythians and Cimmerians.

We find thousands of these anthropomorphic crosses in the Central Europe, in the area between
Balkans and Baltic which was in medieval times inhabited mostly by Slavs. It seems that the only
other place where they are found in Europe is Ireland.

Who were the people who built these Baba stones and anthropomorphic crosses in Ireland? How
and when did they arrive there, and how come not a word can be read about them in any modern
history of Ireland? The old histories of Ireland are not so silent. The old histories talk about
Scythians who came to Ireland from the Caspian sea, but these old histories are ignored by
modern historians as "fanciful" and "ridiculous".
In his book "The origin of the Irish race" Mallory expressed scepticism regarding the book if
invasions and as an example of how fanciful it is it quoted the part which tells us how the
Nemedians sailed from the Caspian Sea all the way to Ireland. Mallory says that this being
impossible, the chapter is and example of a later construction which was composed to link the
Irish to Scythians and ultimately Christianity. In my opinion this exact chapter certifies that the
book of Invasions was compiled from actual old histories. It was later doctored to suit changing
ethnic, political and religious needs, but the original material was not an invention but a true
description of events that actually happened.
You can read more here.

It seems that a lot of this "Scythian" heritage in Ireland is concentrated in the North of Ireland, in
the area which was in the Early medieval times inhabited by people of Cruithin (Pictish) origin.
This is also the place where we find Dl Riata and their king Gabran, Raven (or maybe Goat or
Horse). In my next post I will talk about Gabran his son Aed dan and their patron saint Golub ban.

One last thing:

In Irish mythology, the Badb or Badhbh (Pronounced baib, bab) is a war goddess. She is known to
cause fear and confusion among soldiers in order to move the tide of battle to her favoured side.
In Irish legends, Badb is associated with war and death, appearing either to foreshadow imminent
bloodshed or to participate in battles, where she creates confusion among the soldiers. As a
harbinger of doom, she appears in a number of different guises, of which the most common are an
old hag and a screaming raven or crow. The fact that war goddess Badb appears as a raven is
interested considering that raven (bran, vran) was the war symbol of Continental Celts (Gals). Gal
actually means Raven in an archaic south Serbian dialect.
The fact that she appears as an old hag as well creates another very interesting possibility. Baba
in Slavic languages means grandmother, old hag. Did baba stone statue get its name from Badb
or did Badb get its name from Baba statues? The first Baba statues of this type were found in
Ukraine. I wander which part of Ukraine. Was it Galicia....According to archaeological data, Celts
came to the Balkans from Galicia. Galician symbol is a raven crow. Badb was one of the Tuatha,
the northerners. Ulster, the land of Ulaid was the only place where we find La Tene, central
European Celtic artefacts, and this is where we find warrior Scythian Baba statues.

Does this then put equality sign between Celts and Scythians? La Tene organic designs are
predated with exactly the same early Scythian designs....

This could be very important and is definitely worth exploring in more detail...

You can find more interesting like this on my blog.