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many ways in our day-to-day lives. It creates obstacles in both, our worldly
lives as well as spiritual practice. In some cases, it may seem that the
entire family has a dark cloud over it and various family members are
undergoing various problems despite all efforts to overcome them. The
difficulties that are created due to ancestral spirits come in various forms
such as marital disharmony, addictions, miscarriages and financial
problems. At an intellectual level, we can use two rules of thumb to decide
if the cause of suffering is spiritual in nature. The first rule is if all remedies
to solve the problem have failed. This is especially so when the problem
should be easily treatable by modern sciences. The second rule is if a
number of family members (e.g. 4 out of 5) are suffering with any of the
above mentioned issues simultaneously. The reason that all the family
members get affected is that they all have the same ancestors. In this
section learn how we can protect ourselves from problems caused by
ancestral spirits and assist our departed ancestors in the afterlife.
Please refer to the article on, The breakdown of spiritual root causes of
difficulties in life.
One aspect of these spiritual root causes of problems in our lives is the
distress caused to descendants by the subtle bodies of their ancestors who
have passed away (died). It is also one of the more common spiritual
factors that affects almost all of humanity in some form or the other. Before
we give a detailed explanation as to why our ancestors would want to
cause any kind of trouble for us, let us first examine the kinds of difficulties
that people can experience due to departed ancestors.
The distress caused to us descendants by the subtle bodies of our
ancestors manifests in many ways in our day-to-day lives. It creates
obstacles in both, our worldly lives as well as spiritual practice. In some
cases, it may seem that the entire family has a dark cloud over it and
various family members are undergoing various problems despite all efforts
to overcome them. The difficulties that are created due to departed
ancestors come in various forms as listed below:
Marital disharmony
Loss of job
Miscarriages
Bearing mentally challenged children or children with special needs
A number of family members (e.g. 4 out of 5) are suffering with any of the
above mentioned issues simultaneously. (The reason that all the family
members get affected is that they all have the same ancestors.)
Due to the inability to move on in the after life and attain a higher positive
region or sub-region.
Ancestors who have an attachment to the family and still want things to be
done their way.
Distress
due
to
call
for
help
by
ancestors
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When one dies, the vital energy is released back into the Universe. The
physical body remains on Earth, while the subtle body travels to a subtle
plane depending on its merits or sins and its spiritual level. Unlike on the
Earth plane, the only parameter that matters in the after-life is the spiritual
level or the spiritual purity of a subtle body. The physical body and the
various worldly aspects such as money, prestige, job, how well we are
connected etc. have absolutely no relevance in the spiritual realm or subtle
world.
The subtle body as shown in the diagram becomes heavy due to sins and
excessive ego. As a result, it gets stuck in lower subtle planes of existence
such as the Nether region (Bhuvarlok). If the demerits or sins are intense,
then the subtle body goes to one of the regions of Hell (Ptl). On the other
hand, the subtle body becomes lighter due to good deeds (merits) and the
intensity of spiritual practice. The higher the spiritual level, the lighter the
subtle body and faster the progress to the higher positive subtle regions of
the Universe.
Samashti spiritual level refers to the spiritual level attained through spiritual practice for the sake of
society (samashti sdhan), while vyashti spiritual practice refers to the spiritual level attained through
individual spiritual practice (vyashti sdhan). In the current times, spiritual progress for the sake of
society has 70% importance while individual spiritual practice has 30% importance.
(Please refer to the article on spiritual level and the breakdown of the world
population by spiritual level.)
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This means that the vast majority of our ancestors (over 95% of them) will
be consigned to regions below Heaven like the Nether region or one of the
regions of Hell. A large percentage of the world population is at a spiritual
level of below 30%. When they die, they have very little spiritual strength to
help themselves in the lower subtle regions. By help we mean helping
themselves spiritually to advance to higher positive subtle sub-regions.
In the lower subtle regions, they experience pain due to demerits and do
not know how to help themselves. They are also attacked and tormented
by more powerful ghosts who control them for various purposes. They try to
go to a more positive region or sub-region in the Universe but cannot quite
do so without spiritual help.
Subtle bodies who are over 30% spiritual level, can technically help
themselves by doing spiritual practice, but this too, is rare unless they have
a strong impression to do spiritual practice that conforms to the six basic
principles of spiritual practice. All other versions of spiritual practice are
inefficient and do not really provide any spiritual help to the subtle body of
the ancestor.
The distress suffered by our ancestors in the lower regions of the Universe
emanates from them as distress frequencies/vibrations that travel across
the various subtle regions as well as the Earth region. As their family
members or descendants have the most matching frequencies, they are
best able to receive these frequencies.
Only on the Earth plane, do we have the ability to do something for our
departed ancestors. Their relatives in the other various subtle realms are
pretty much in the same boat and so cannot help. In the present times, as
most descendants are not sufficiently spiritually evolved to be able to subtly
perceive the distressing frequencies, the ancestors use spiritual energy to
create distress in their descendants lives so that the descendants take
notice of their needs. The distress perpetrated by the ancestors is thus
basically a means to communicate their pain. When the descendant finds
that problems are not going away despite their best efforts, they sometimes
seek spiritual guidance. If the appropriate spiritual guidance is obtained and
implemented, it not only provides the descendants the required protection
from their ancestors but also provides the ancestors the necessary impetus
for their onward journey in the spiritual realm.
Depending on the nature and spiritual level of ancestors the extent of
distress varies. A good ancestor would give distress only to the extent of
making the descendants aware of their needs. A vengeful ancestor on the
other hand, could cause extensive distress to his descendants.
For the purposes of this section, when we refer to ancestors, it includes all
of the following:
Subtle-bodies of all our known and unknown departed relations from all the
previous generations.
Relatives from all the previous generations from the fathers and mothers
side. For a woman from her parents side as well as from her husbands
side are included in this category. The reason for women having to include
ancestors from her husbands side as well is that with marriage the woman
becomes one with the husbands family and enjoys and inherits the assets
of that family.
Along with this subtle-bodies of departed relatives from previous births are
also included in ancestors.
Even if ones descendants (children) die before one, they too are included
in the category of ancestors as described in this section. This is even
though they are not technically ancestors.
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The subtle-bodies of people between the 20-30% spiritual levels are heavy
as in the lowest circle shown in the diagram above. The heaviness is
primarily caused due to demerits incurred from their life on Earth, immense
worldly attachments and lack of spiritual practice that conforms to the six
basic principles of spiritual practice.
The ancestors beyond the seventh generation do not affect us much. This
is because the give-and-take account with the ancestors is fully completed
or completed to a large extent in a given birth. Hence in the next birth,
the give-and-take with ancestors of this present birth will be negligible if at
all. If a sizeable give-and-take account remains, then we are born in the
same family once again.
The above pertains to how far we are affected by our lineage (i.e. the
vertical family tree). If we look at it horizontally (or laterally), we are affected
by our ancestors up to our second cousins.
Please note: Close friends cannot affect or cause distress like ancestors.
They can try to help if they have a higher spiritual level but we should not
accept it. This is because it will increase their attachment to worldly matters
and make them Earth bound. As a result it could cause an impediment in
their onward journey. We should instead pray that they concentrate on their
onward spiritual journey.
relief but it cannot cure the rash completely or prevent it from occurring
again.
In order to gain insulation from problems caused due to departed
ancestors, we recommend chanting the protective chant of Shr Gurudev
Datta. This chant represents the Name of Deity Datta, an aspect of God.
This is to be done daily along with chanting the Name of God according to
the religion of ones birth.
Chanting of Deity Dattas Name is a kind of prescription chant to overcome
a specific spiritual problem i.e. problems caused due to departed
ancestors. On the other hand, chanting the Name of God according to the
religion of ones birth acts as a general spiritual tonic for overall spiritual
growth. Chanting of Deity Dattas Name provides protection, but not
spiritual growth.
To give you an analogy, chanting Deity Dattas Name is like having an
extra dose of Vitamin C when one has a common cold. The Vitamin C is
taken along with the usual multi-vitamin tablet taken for good health (which
is the Name according to the religion of birth).
When we repeat the protective chant of Shri Gurudev Datta, we attract the
divine energy associated with Dattas Name and as a result we benefit in
the following ways:
1. A subtle protective sheath envelops us, protecting us from obstacles
caused by our ancestors.
2. It helps to nullify the give-and-take account that we have with our ancestors
thus reducing their influence on us.
3. It gives our ancestors the assistance they require to make their onward
journey in the subtle-world.
However, the extent of benefit depends on the quantity and quality of our
chanting, which besides other factors, depends on our spiritual level.
Type
Example
Mild
Moderate
Severe
Note: If the difficulties are severe, then one could also be advised to
perform specific spiritual rituals. Information regarding these will be
published in later articles.
When one dies, the vital energy is released back into the universe. The
physical body remains on the Earth region (Bhlok) while the subtle-body
travels to a subtle-plane depending on its merits or sins and its spiritual
level. The subtle-body becomes heavy due to sins and excessive ego and
as a result gets stuck in lower subtle-planes of existence such as the
Nether region (Bhuvarlok). If the sins are intense then the subtle-body goes
to Hell (Ptl).
On the other hand, the subtle-body becomes lighter due to good deeds
(merits) and the intensity ofspiritual practice. The higher the spiritual level,
the lighter the subtle-body and faster the progress during its sojourn.
After death, those whose spiritual practice is not intense, get stuck in the
Nether region. A seekers subtle-body crosses the Nether region
immediately due to the lightness of the subtle-body as a result of spiritual
practice and goes to higher subtle regions of existence such as Heaven
(Swarga).
However, the subtle-body without the strength of spiritual practice remains
in the subtle Nether region and has to undergo the distress there. It doesnt
gain momentum because it lacks spiritual energy and purity
(Sattva predominance) and hence is stuck in the heavy atmosphere of the
subtle Nether region.
They need spiritual help to make their onward journey. Now, they can turn
only to their descendants to do something for them. As the descendants
are benefactors of the assets of their ancestors in one way or another, they
are spiritually bound to render requisite help to these subtle-bodies.
However, the descendents in many cases are unaware of the rites and
rituals that need to be done in a correct manner according to the science of
Spirituality to assist their deceased ancestors. As a result, the ancestors
who have passed away get no relief in the subtle Nether region. The
ancestors therefore trouble (as mentioned in an earlier article) their
descendants, in order to draw their attention towards them. When the
descendant in the Earth region experience difficulties that just dont seem
by publishing kind words about them in their memory in the obituary section
of a newspaper or
At the time of death, excretory gases are expelled from the dead body.
These excretory gases are regular physical gases expelled by the body
such as putrefying gases etc. Their frequencies and vibrations are negative
in nature and as a result, the Tama component increases in the immediate
environment. The ghosts (demons, devils, negative energies, etc.) get
attracted to these distressing frequencies and enter the environment
around the dead body.
They attack the dead body by gaining control over the five vital
energies and sub-vital energies which are in the process of being released
into the Universe at the time of death. They emit black energy in smoke
form on to the dead body, engulfing it and creating a black covering on it.
Due to the attacks by ghosts, there is a transmission of black frequencies in
the dead body and the corpse gets charged with black frequencies.
When the ghost gains control on the five vital energies and sub-vital
energies, it also transmits whorls of black energy to ensnare the subtle
body. It thus pulls the subtle-body of the deceased ancestor in its field of
attack. Then they trap the subtle-body into their web of black frequencies
and can create obstacles in its onward journey in the after-life. After some
time, many ghosts attack the subtle-body by creating a whorl of black
frequencies and take it into their complete control. In this way, ghosts
systematically gain control over the dead body and the subtle-body of the
departed ancestor.
Spiritual science advocates some specific rites and rituals that need to be
done at the time of death to protect the body and the subtle-body from
being potentially attacked by ghosts. In many cases, people either do not
know these rituals or do not know how to perform them correctly.
5. For items that the dead person was not much attached to, family members
may use them after a period of six months by which time the vibrations of
the dead person would have been removed due to the purification by the
spiritual chant.
6. Pictures of the departed ancestors should be taken down in the house.
Having the pictures of dead relatives in the house fuels their attachment for
their previous Earthly life and their previous family. This in turn impedes
their progress in their onward spiritual journey. In some cases it makes the
departed ancestor Earthbound in their home.
7. If a will has been drawn out by the dead person it should be honoured so
that his wishes do not remain unfulfilled.
The importance of putting the above steps into practice is that this is one of
the deciding factors in the departed ancestor moving on or getting stuck in
the Earth region. For our own complete protection, regular spiritual practice
that pertains to the six basic principles in spiritual practice is suggested.
An ancestor may help his descendant get a job by putting the idea in the
interviewers mind of selecting him.
They may help a girl get the boyfriend of her choice by putting the thought
in the to-be boyfriends mind.
For example, a departed father may want to warn his son about the risk in
signing the business deal through dreams but the son either does not make
the connection between the signs in the dreams and the deal or if he does,
he may not attribute enough significance to it thus ignoring the message.
In another case, a departed mother may have to helplessly watch her
beloved son falling prey to a lethal drug addiction orchestrated by a subtlesorcerer. She understands the root cause of the addiction, though the son
and the world is unaware about it, but as her spiritual power falls much
shorter than that of the subtle-sorcerer she is forced to be a helpless
spectator.
1. Introduction
Quite often our readers ask the meaning behind seeing dead relatives in
their dreams frequently. A few of them, welcome seeing dead relatives and
a few are fearful of the same. Their questions include, Has my father
moved on in the afterlife?, Has he gone to heaven?, What are they trying
to tell me?, etc. In this article, through spiritual research, we shed some
light on this issue from both a psychological and spiritual viewpoint.
Please read what is spiritual research?
of a close friend who had died in a tragic accident. Andrew said that once,
while at University, he did not go on a trip with his friend because he was
competing in an event that his friend had trained him for. During the trip, his
friend drowned.
Andrew was overcome by a feeling of remorse and guilt for not being there
for his friend and perhaps being able to save his life. He did not have the
strength to go to the funeral. Soon after the funeral, Andrews deceased
friend began to appear in his dreams. It would be the same dream each
time and it would recur every few days. This continued for many years.
Andrew was very fearful of the dream but he did not ask for help from
anyone on this matter.
Then one day after many years, he faced his fears and said to his friend in
the dream, Look I am sorry I was not there for you. I cannot change the
past but I cannot keep living like this, dreaming of you every second day.
So whatever it is you want from me . do what you must kill me if you
will, I dont care. From the next day onwards he did not have the dream
ever again. Andrew felt that standing up to his deceased friend in a dream
was the correct thing to do. However, from a spiritual perspective, all that
the departed friend wanted, was some spiritual help from his closest friend
Andrew. Once he saw that Andrew would never understand, the subtlebody of the deceased friend retreated, never to ask again.
Andrewss correct action should have been to help organise a ritual to be
conducted to help his deceased friend.
The Name of Shr Gurudev Datta is a potent chant that provides relief
from any problems caused due to departed ancestors or family
members.
Proportion of people
going to these regions
after death
Relative spiritual
strength
Main aim
+ 100 to Infinity
Spiritual growth
Heaven (Swarga)
Less than 1%
+5
85%
+1
Survival
10%
-10 to -20
5%
Troubling others
Note: The negative figures for spiritual strength show the spiritual energy
that is demonic spiritual energy. It is also commonly known as black
energy.
On average a departed ancestor will take about one to three generations to
lose attachment to his previous life on Earth. One generation can be taken
as roughly 30 years. In other words, people are most affected by the
generations that pertain to their parents to great-grandparents. One aspect
that decides this time period is the suffering that one has to undergo in the
subtle-regions due to incorrect actions and deeds when on the Earth plane.
When undergoing these sufferings, departed ancestors are aware of which
part of their Earthly existence is responsible for the suffering. In that time
their attachment to their previous worldly life also exists and is bound to
influence the lives of their descendants.
Samashti spiritual level refers to the spiritual level attained through spiritual practice for the sake of
society (samashti sdhan), while vyashti spiritual practice refers to the spiritual level attained through
individual spiritual practice (vyashti sdhan). In the current times, spiritual progress for the sake of
society has 70% importance while individual spiritual practice has 30% importance.
The subtle-bodies that can effect real change on the Earth plane for their
descendants are subtle-bodies that are spiritually evolved and reside in the
higher regions of the Universe such as Maharlok,Janolok, etc. These
subtle-bodies are above the 60% (samashi) or 70% (vyashi) spiritual level.
However, in practice people do not receive material help from these highly
evolved beings. This is for two reasons:
Firstly, less than 0.1% of our departed ancestors go to these higher regions
of the Universe because ones spiritual level needs to be above 60%
( samashti) or 70% ( vyashti).
Most of our ancestors go to the subtle-regions of Nether region and the 1st
and 2nd regions of Hell. Here the environment is quite oppressive. Due to a
lack of spiritual practice and various attachments/unfulfilled desires, subtlebodies of departed ancestors in these regions mainly experience
unhappiness. Most of the time these departed ancestors want to trouble
their descendants. The following are the two main reasons as to why
ancestors trouble their descendants.
Due to the inability to move on in the after life and attain a higher positive
region or sub-region.
Please refer to the article Why would my departed loved ones and my
other ancestors want to give me pain? If help is provided by the
ancestors, then it is because of intense desire to help. It is generally for
small things such as getting a job, etc. However if a descendant on Earth is
to undergo some event because of medium to severe destiny, it is
impossible to change that event without the descendant themselves doing
spiritual practice.
Ancestors that go to the lower regions of Hell generally only trouble their
descendants and never help.
Mechanism of how subtle bodies of departed ancestors help
In almost all cases, ancestors have very little ability to influence events on
a sustained basis in another plane of existence such as the Earth region.
Sometimes the strength to accomplish the wishes of departed ancestors is
given by higher level ghosts (demons, devils, negative energies, etc).
Higher level ghosts provide energy so as to create a give-and-take
account with these subtle-bodies that they help and thereby get them under
their control.
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In the next article we will examine some of the popular rituals and customs
worldwide and their efficacy in providing protection from problems
caused by departed ancestors.
Refer to the article Why would my departed loved ones and my other
ancestors want to give me pain?
hence it is easier for departed ancestors to contact us. Most dreams are
psychological in nature. However, there are instances when dreams are
spiritual in nature. As a rule of thumb, a dream can be considered spiritual
in nature if a dream recurs three times in a row. If what appeared in the
dream also occurs in the waking state, it is to be understood that this, too,
is spiritual in nature. Some dreams are typical of ancestors trying to
communicate. For example, continuously seeing ancestors in your dreams
or seeing snakes. Seeing cobra snakes are generally indicative of
ancestors that mean well, whereas any other variety of snakes is
considered to represent ancestors that mean harm.
6.1 Mechanism of the action for communication
All actions have to be done using one of the Absolute Cosmic Principles
(Panchatattva). Depending on the spiritual strength of the ancestor they are
able to access higher and higher Absolute Cosmic Principles to establish
communication
Absolute Cosmic Element
How it manifests
Earth (Pruthv)
Water (pa)
Fire (Tj)
Taking the form of the ancestor in the dream state, ability to see the d
ancestor or a vision of the departed ancestor.
Air (Vyu)
Ether (ksh)
Refer to the article, Why would my departed loved ones and my other
ancestors want to give me pain?
You have mentioned in one of your articles that one of the reasons our
ancestors trouble us is because the give-and-take account has not been
settled. However is it not pre-destined how much account we are going
to settle and with whom in a particular lifetime?
2. Sprinkle holy water (i.e. water plus holy ash) all over the dead persons
room. This will help to reduce the tama component that is generated in the
atmosphere at the time of death.
3. The whole family can chant the spiritual chant of Shr Gurudev Datta. The
chant can also be played continuously at low volume in the dead persons
room. By continuously playing the chant of Shri Gurudeva Datta for about
a year, the premises are purified and the subtle body of the departed
relative also gains momentum in its onward journey in the afterlife.
4. For items where the dead person was very attached to, it is best to give
them to a deserving spiritual organisation. As it is given to deserving
spiritual organisations, the resolve of God becomes functional. The
vibrations of the dead person in his belongings are destroyed and the
subtle body gains momentum in its journey after death. This is because
merits are accrued due to this donation to the deserving. By deserving, we
mean those organisations that help people realise their true spiritual
purpose in life.
5. For items that the dead person was not much attached to, family members
may use them after a period of six months by which time the vibrations of
the dead person would have been removed due to the purification by the
spiritual chant.
6. Pictures of the departed ancestors should be taken down in the house.
Having the pictures of dead relatives in the house fuels their attachment for
their previous Earthly life and their previous family. This in turn impedes
their progress in their onward spiritual journey. In some cases it makes the
departed ancestor Earthbound in their home.
7. If a will has been drawn out by the dead person it should be honoured so
that his wishes do not remain unfulfilled.
The importance of putting the above steps into practice is that this is one of
the deciding factors in the departed ancestor moving on or getting stuck in
the Earth region. For our own complete protection, regular spiritual practice
that pertains to the six basic principles in spiritual practice is suggested.
At times when walking on the streets, I would feel that I was very tall and at
times I would feel I was out of my body.
Quite often, I would be walking on the streets and would suddenly get very
bad thoughts like beating or pushing the person next to me (someone I
didnt even know), or would have some sexual thought.
Sometimes some very bad thought like that of murder would come to my
mind.
One day when I was awaiting my turn for a modelling casting, I just
happened to turn around. The girl who was behind me screamed and
backed off by two metres. She told her friends that when she saw my eyes
she was scared. (Normally Cyriaque has a very calm personality.) Many
times I would see myself in the mirror and feel a lot of anger.
I was also addicted to cigarette smoking. I would smoke one to one and a
half packs of cigarettes a day. Along with smoking sometimes when we
went to a party, I would drink a lot of alcohol. Many times I had no desire or
need for a drink, but would nevertheless find myself drinking.
Another experience that I had quite often was that I would suddenly feel
tired, as if all of my energy was drained. I would experience a lot of weight
As it was the first time I heard the Name, I could not repeat it properly so I
asked her to write It on a piece of paper. Then I immediately went into the
bathroom to be alone so I could chant. When I sat and took the paper in my
hands, I was feeling a little strange and had difficulty in pronouncing it
properly.
So I prayed to God, Please God I dont know how to repeat this Name.
Please chant for me.
My prayer was answered instantly as the chanting started automatically
from within. I felt it working inside me, going very fast as if in a spiral.
This experience is a manifestation of the effect of the chanting on the
subtle-bodies of Cyriaques departed ancestors and the resultant spiritual
cleansing.
After a few minutes, I got up and was feeling very dizzy. I could not even
stand on my feet. As I got up to leave the bathroom while chanting
intensely, I felt myself nailed to the bathroom door with force. I yelled out
for help. Dana came almost immediately and helped me to walk away from
the door and spoke something to me in a loving tone.
One of the entities within me snapped back at her saying, Look how
powerful I am.
Entities such as ancestors subtle-bodies, ghosts (demons, devils, negative
energies etc.) are privy to the happenings in the lives of the person whom
they possess at all levels from gross to subtle, depending on the extent of
their possession. One of their characteristics are that they are egotistical.
I myself felt as if I was eight meters tall. At that time, something told me that
there were eight ghosts within me and that one of them was the strongest.
This is an experience directly related to the subtle-bodies of the ancestors.
Due to the effect of the chanting of the Name of Lord Datta, the subtle-body
of the ancestor was experiencing severe distress and as a result was
forced to surface and manifest externally. When the subtle-bodies manifest
It all lasted for two days or so. Then all of a sudden, I felt like the main
ancestors subtle-body left my body.
Yoya is also a seeker being guided in her spiritual journey by SSRF. She
has the unique ability to perceive and represent the subtle-world graphically
and has created many drawings based on subtle-knowledge to this effect.
Yoya created drawings based on subtle-knowledge of what she saw
happening to me over the two days. The drawings are a representation of
what happened at the subtle-level to bring about the remarkable change in
me.
Figure 1
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Figure 3
Figure 4
After the two day period, I felt completely drained physically. When I tried to
smoke a cigarette, I could smoke only half the cigarette and had to stop.
Slowly and steadily I began feeling much lighter. My smoking habit stopped
completely as I felt I had no need to smoke. Along with this the negative
thoughts stopped coming to my mind. I became more open and
communicative.
Over the course of the next few months some of the earlier symptoms
resurfaced. I was informed that I had been affected with a whole batch of
ancestors subtle-bodies. So I continued the spiritual treatment of chanting
3 mls (A mala is a string of 108 beads i.e. 3 X 108 = 324 times) of the
Name of Lord Datta daily. Later that same year in December 1999 when
we met H.H. Dr. Athavale for the first time in Goa, India, He told me to
increase the chanting to 9 malas (9 x 108 = 972) as the problem of being
affected by subtle-bodies of ancestors was severe.
In the months that followed, many a time I would experience some distress
but the difference was that this time around:
I knew the root cause of the problem so did not panic or feel any anxiety
I knew the remedy, that is chanting the Name of Lord Datta and the
spiritual science behind it.
The symptoms would always subside after chanting the Name of Lord
Datta. Along with chanting the Name of Lord Datta, I was also asked to
chant the Name of Mother Mary as I am a Roman Catholic by birth. I
remember being told the difference between the two chants: Lord Datta
acted as a prescription chant to alleviate a specific spiritual problem and
chanting of Mother Marys Name acted as general spiritual tonic.
Please read our section on chanting
Even though initially my mind was full of doubts about spiritual practice, I
persevered in the spiritual practice of chanting on a daily basis. I also
always remember the initial experience that I had and it gives me strength
to know that this is the correct way and keeps me steadfast on this path
even though the initial symptoms have now long since subsided.
4. Summary
The treatment consisting of chanting the Name of Lord Datta with an open
mind.
This was even though the spiritual remedy was alien to his religion and
culture. Putting the remedy into practice immediately also hastened his
recovery.
The immediate effect of the remedy : The immediate effect can be
attributed to-
The resolve of H.H. Dr. Athavale behind the application of the remedy of
chanting the Name of Lord Datta.
along with spiritual healing remedies for the treatment of physical and
psychiatric illnesses. Readers are advised to take up any spiritual healing
remedy at their own discretion.
My sister met with a violent accident wherein she was crushed between
two buses in a freak accident and died at the age of 22. Just after her
funeral, as I was lying down in a half-sleep-half-waking state, I saw her
subtle-form enter the house. Over the next 10 years, I would see her very
often in my dreams. It was the same dream and I felt she was not able to
move on in the afterlife and was in a lot of pain. The dreams were very real
and I would wake-up very disturbed by them.
I have been doing spiritual practice under the guidance of SSRF since
1998. In 2001 I began to get mouth ulcers very frequently. They would
surface every fortnight or so in different places in my mouth cavity. I
consulted various doctors. The treatment regime provided by them was Bcomplex supplements and Dologel (a local anaesthetic solution to be
applied on the ulcer). I also consulted a Homeopath but to no avail. I
continued to be plagued by ulcers in my mouth for a period of five years.
One day I happened to mention my problem to a Subtle department seeker
of SSRF. She told me that it was due to ancestor problems. At the time I
was chanting 3 malas (i.e. 3 X 108 times) of Deity Datta's Name. She told
me to increase it to 9 malas a day. I could almost immediately perceive the
benefit of the increased chanting. The intensity of the ulcers and the
frequency with which they occurred also reduced. After about two months
they did not occur again.
Now looking back, one thing that should have given me a hint that the
problem was spiritual was the fact that the ulcers would mostly appear
around the full moon day or new moon day.
The Subtle perception department is a section of the SSRF consisting of seekers who can perceive
the subtle dimension, draw pictures of the subtle world (subtle pictures) and administer spiritual
remedies. Some of the seekers from this department receive divine knowledge and some are
pursuing divine art. The research activity of the SSRF is carried out predominantly by this department.
The seeker was sent to SSRFs hermitage (ashram) in Panvel, another city
in India for spiritual treatment by seekers with subtle perception abilities so
as to help him get to the root of his problem. It was very quickly discovered
that the cause was the ghost of his ancestor.
The following is a transcript of the conversation between the ghost who had
manifested and the seekers of SSRF with the ability to perceive and
converse with it.
Comment: This is one of the ways that ancestors possess their
descendants and converse through them.
Ancestors Subtle Body: Im his fathers cousin. Leave me in Khareshwar
(A temple in India).
Seekers: What is there in Khareshwar?
Ancestors Subtle Body: I possessed him in the Khareshwar temple, and
so I can leave him only there. Your His Holiness Dr. Jayant Athavale has
asked me to leave him. I feel like listening to Him.
Comment: Each ghost has different demands to leave the affected person.
It is difficult to reason out each time as to why they have those demands. In
this case, it may be that since the ghost has been told to leave and by
leaving at the same place where he came in, his attachment to this
individual and his family gets fulfilled, as though a sin has been paid off,
thereby closing the circle.
Seekers: Why do you trouble him?
Ancestors Subtle Body: Because nobody in his family follows the family
tradition of worshipping Lord Shiva (the divine principle of Destruction), at
Khareshwar and so I cannot be freed from my ghost-like existence. Since
they are not continuing the family tradition, why should I let them live? I
want to destroy their family.
Seekers: Why do you make so much noise and cause so much trouble?
Ancestors Subtle Body: Because I cannot stay in the hermitage. Leave
me in Khareshwar. I do not have enough energy to leave him here (in the
hermitage)
Comment: As explained above, each ghost has various specific demands
to leave affected persons. The ghost in this case could not leave because
the positive energy (sattvikta) of the hermitage was so high that the ghost
had been drained of energy and did not have the energy required to leave
the affected seeker.
Seekers: When did you possess him?
Ancestors Subtle Body: When he was 4 years old I possessed him in
Khareshwar temple.
Seekers: How did you trouble him?
Ancestors Subtle Body: I degraded his handwriting (seeker has bad
writing), I put obstacles in his education. (When the troubled seeker was
studying for engineering he missed a year, thereby failing. Later he studied
hard but despite this, still failed. He thought of dropping out of school, but
other seekers persuaded him to complete it.) I troubled his mother and also
tried to create doubts about him in other seekers minds.
(Prior to the ghost talking to the seekers, the affected seeker always used
to say, I want to go to Thane)
Seekers: What is there in Thane?
Ancestors Subtle Body: I can trouble him more in SSRFs centre in
Thane but not here in the Panvel hermitage (ashram), as here a lot of holy
energy (sattva component) is present.
Comment: Ghosts (negative energies) themselves feel very distressed in
very holy atmospheres. In such places they do not have much capacity or
energy to trouble their affected victims.
Seekers: If we take him to Khareshwar will you definitely leave him?
Negative energy : Yes, definitely I will leave him. I swear by Khareshwar!
(The ghost repeated this thrice)
Comment: Ghosts have been known to lie on several occasions. The
reason being that telling the truth could prove detrimental to their mission of
causing trouble. When a ghost repeats his oath three times, it is a strong
indication that he is, in fact, telling the truth.
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Ancestors Subtle Body: Every year bring him to visit this temple and ask
him to go to the holy place Kashi (a place of pilgrimage in India) soon. This
is my wish. I have given him lot of trouble and so Im sad. Give my regards
to H.H. Dr. Jayant Athavale. I feel sad while leaving.
After that the seeker felt light, as though a huge burden had been lifted,
and thereafter did not experience any trouble.
Comment: Many times, in order to remove problems with ghosts, it takes
the resolve of a Saint to have the ghost leave, as it was the case here. It is
also important to note that depending upon the quality of the affected
seekers own spiritual practice, he may or may not have to heed the final
wishes of the ghost.
It must be noted that to overcome the negative energy trouble there is no
need to go to any Sorcerer but with the power of chanting the Name of
God and other complementary spiritual practice, one can fight troublesome
ghosts just like this seeker did.