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OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY-GENERAL

JOINT SESSION MEETING


Date: January 30, 2015

Venue: MVP 217-218


Time: 6:00pm 9:00pm

AGENDA
1) Stand Approval (Alecs Reasonda)
2) Committee on Student Services Updates on Trike Fare and OAS Meeting (Mawe Duque)
3) Endorsement of Filipino Department's New Electives (Mawe Duque)
4) Emergency Budget Hearing: Alliance of Business Councils (Alex Tanjanco)
5) Year Council Resolutions: Management Bundled Class & Legal Management Curriculum
Revision (Mawe Duque)
6) Emergency Budget Hearing: Blue Roast Committee (Maki de Jesus)
7) ATF2016 & CAA Resolutions (CJ Leong)
ATTENDANCE (underlined = absent, italics = late/early departure, * = non-voting):
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President

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SOH Chairperson

Ma. Alexandria Felice D. Tanjangco

Ryan Carl Y. Yu
Vice-President

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4 SOH Central Board Rep

Gabriel Francisco D. Mendoza


4 JGSOM Central Board Rep

Raphael Niccolo L. Martinez


Secretary-General

Marie Danielle D. Villanueva


3 SOH Central Board Rep

Marc Wendolf M. Duque


3 JGSOM Central Board Rep

Ray Cristofer C. Gomez


Finance Officer

Phillip Angelo U. Yap


2 SOH Central Board Rep

Jared Matthew A. Sarmiento


2 JGSOM Central Board Rep

Miguel Karlo L. Abadines


COA President

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1 SOH Central Board Rep

Julien Oliver L. Olisa


1 JGSOM Central Board Rep

Moses S. Cam
ARSA President

<vacant>
SOSE Chairperson

<vacant>
SOSS Chairperson

<vacant>
4 SOSE Central Board Rep

<vacant>
4 SOSS Central Board Rep

<vacant>
3 SOSE Central Board Rep

Alexandra Mai C. Reasonda


3 SOSS Central Board Rep

Camille Joy L. Leong


2 SOSE Central Board Rep

Miguel Franco Ignacio M. Hamoy

Patrick Daniel N. Go
1 SOSE Central Board Rep

Regis Martin Wenceslao C. Andanar

Mark Legaspi, 3 SOSS EO


Louis de Jesus, OSG CoS
Nikko dela Paz, OSG Secretariat

Neicy Pilarca, 2 SOSE EO


Full Name, Position (if any)
Full Name, Position (if any)

JGSOM Chairperson

2 SOSS Central Board Rep


1 SOSS Central Board Rep

OTHER ATTENDEES:
Marianne Vitug
Abbo Hernandez
Nelin Armamento

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MINUTES
1) Stand Approval (Alecs Reasonda)
Motion to approve the stand on the Mamasapano incident entitled A Call for True Peace by
Polo Martinez
Seconded: Julien Olisa
Motion unanimously approved
2) Committee on Student Services Updates on Trike Fare and OAS Meeting (Mawe Duque)
Duque: Just to update you with our current meetings again. Committee on Administrative
Services is now working on the trike fare, as you know. We met last January 29, 2015 with
CSMO, OSA, and ADSA and Committee on Administrative Services presented the
computed matrix using new distances. So again, because of the new traffic scheme, well
have new distance matrix for our tricycle drivers. CSMO together with Megaforce Security
and TODA provided additional distance routes. For example, Bakod terminal, Gonzaga
terminal, 2.5 terminal, Dorm terminal, AHS terminal, Barangay Pansol, and UPTC. Here
are concerns from OSA: Sabi ni Sir Chris, there might be a possibility na, for example in
peak hours, bumalik sa panahon na naghihintay pa yung trike drivers na magsakay ng
tatlong pasahero. Number one, it might be more profitable for trike drivers, and two, less
tricycles on the road. That would be a suggestion pero titingnan pa rin natin iyan kasi
noong panahon na iyon, tinatanong pa kung maghihintay pa ng pasahero or not. Ngayon,
kanya-kanya nalang. That is a possibility. Here are the stakeholders to inform: employees,
high school, grade school, Loyola schools, Jesuit residences, Loyola House of Studies, and
Miriam College. Our bigger stakeholder meeting will be on Wednesday, February 4, 3-4:40
PM with TODA. Were expecting that on Wednesday, were going to expected date of
signing new trike fair system will be on Wednesday, February 4. However implementation
will happen two weeks after because of info dissem. So thats for update on trike fare. For
the update on OAS study. Just to give you context, there was a resolution passed by my
committee to establish a partnership with COA in terms of gathering responses doon sa
mga inis nila sa OAS. Meron tayong apat na pictures: OAS, process, communication,
office [powerpoint presentation]. One of the questions na pinost sa survey, what three
words come into your mind when you hear OAS, Process, Office and Communication.
Of course, these are not sufficient to tell OAS. Hassle po kayo, hindi po namin
naiintindihan yung process, etc. But this serves as a backdrop of our data, so its
establishing the mood. Like bakit siya hassle, bakit hassle nanaman, bakit andito si Sir
Geoff sa office, bakit inconsistent yung communication ng OAS. However, its in
partnership with COA. Im quite disappointed with I hope next time when this
partnership, maulit siya next year because it will be transitionary next school year, I hope
na mas mapatibay pa yung relasyon ng committee with COA because out of the 52

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organizations, 1/3 lang yung nagrespond or 18 respondents. Because we want to jump on


time na, these are the general comments:
Not all OAS-fault
There is a need to update the long form, whats needed to update
In terms of communication, there was a time na yung mga problema, kailangan
pang pumunta sa FA director, kailangan pang pumunta ni Sir Chris of OSA to
meddle with OAS
There was a comment with late opening and early closing, long lunch break. Paguusapan namin on Tuesday
Mawe Duque: Im trying to really understand kung may plight yung OAS so
pag-uusapan namin siya on Tuesday with Karlo Abadines
Paperless short forms would be good but long form not.
There are limited computer terminals, baka pwedeng palakihan yung keyboard
Information disseminated must be more consisted.
Mawe Duque: These are general points; Ill just post the specific points in the group. This
is in partnership with DRS

Ryan Yu: Ano yung magiging action plan?

Mawe Duque: Were not going to go directly to the issue when we meet with
them. In the past, the relationship between the committee and OAS hasnt really
been established. What well do on Tuesday is first to introduce what CAS is,
delineate the rules and responsibilities of both, and ask OAS what is it currently
doing. I already sent the agenda to Maam Salita. In all fairness, nag-iba yung
mood namin ngayon, mas naging civil in terms of talking to OAS pero yun yung
hindi siya kaagad aatakihin. Although ipapakita yung points on Tuesday, in terms
of action planning to resolve the issues, it will be hand-in-hand consulted with
OAS.

TJ Santos: Sino yung nag-suggest ng short form online?

Mawe Duque: The organizations.

TJ Santos: Well coming lang from DSWS, kasi we also receive short
forms from the orgs, we need the signature of the formator.

Mawe Duque: That is something well look into.

3) Endorsement of Filipino Department's New Electives (Mawe Duque)


a. Mawe Duque: Ive talked to Sir Salazar. Sir Salazar is the chair of the Filipino department.
I guess this is also coming from one of my personal advocacies with my organization,
Bugkos, but I want to institutionalize it through the Sanggunian, to discuss Regional
Literature electives and language courses. One of the Guidon articles said a Filipino
Languages Department might replace the Filipino department. When I talked to Sir
Salazar, hindi pa yun fully furnished, but as of the moment, when there is demand, some
of the students kasi are requesting na magkaroon ng FLC na mas local parang turuan ng

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Bicolano, or Kapampangan. Pero wala pang materials na napuput in place, so what the
Filipino department is doing is introducing Regional Literature Electives that include
Bikol, Kapampangan, Hiligaynon, Ilokano, Cebuano, Muslim Mindanao Lit. These are
courses sana that will generate demand especially from Ateneo provincials to know more
of their local histories in their respective provinces. This is an endorsement sana of the
Sanggunian to be made through the Committee on Academic Affairs. CAA can survey the
course and block representatives to see if there is a demand for these courses. Sabi ni Sir
Salazar, mas madali na magkaroon ng bagong subject pero kung wala naman mag-eenroll
okay lang. Basta mapakita na may demand from the students. Its good for the provincials
to know their local history more. And we are planning to integrate it with the other
courses for example, Development Studies. It can be an interdisciplinary subject
according to Sir Salazar.
Louis De Jesus: Do you plan these courses to be taught in both English and Tagalog?
Mawe Duque: Yung Regional Lit right now, the course materials are in Filipino kasi were
not expecting that in a class, it will purely be Kapampangan Literature. If ever daw
lahat Kapampangan, gagawin pa daw yung materials in terms of language. Its a good step
daw, sabi ni Sir Salazar.
Louis De Jesus: Pano yung material? Yung babasahin talaga?
Mawe Duque: Naka-translate into Filipino
Ryan Yu: Yung thrust ngayon in terms of curriculum is interdiscipinary so baka it would
be good if they can integrate this to other courses din. Im sure since its lit, madaming
departments that they can coordinate with. I think that would be very relevant especially
because mag-aadjust yung core curriculum so that would be one of the interdisciplinary
electives that they could offer.
Madel Callanta: How is this going to affect the other majors na inooffer ng Filipino? Ibig
sabihin bang mapapalitan?
Mawe Duque: These are electives.
Madel Callanta: What about yung core? Wont they integrate it?
Mawe Duque: Hindi kasi parang mag-iiba yung core ng Filipino. Hes telling me that its
purposive communication na less lit, more functional.
Ray Gomez: The concern is are the Filipino Lit students okay with having that change?
Having purposive communication? Galing ba to sa CHED memorandum?
Mawe Duque: Yes
Ryan Yu: Di pa lumalabas yung proposed curriculum.
Madel Callanta: Kailan ilalaunch yung subjects?
Mawe Duque: First sem, August. Theyre asking kung pwedeng middle of march,
pwedeng ibigay yung interested
Madel Callanta: Professors, meron na?
Mawe Duque: Meron.

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4) Emergency Budget Hearing: ABC (Alex Tanjanco)


Alex Tanjanco: For those of you who dont know, the Alliance of Business Councils is
between Ateneo, UP, and La Salle, and throughout the year, weve been collaborating and
supporting each others projects and this is going to be our official launch. We already
crafted our constitution, its already been approved, and last sem break we had our
PlanSem. General details about our launch, its going to be on February 21, Saturday in
the Corinthian Hills Clubhouse from 7 pm to 12 mn. But what exactly is this launch for?
Generally, this is a night to launch the ABC to this community. Each school is going to
invite 50 representatives. Be it their org leaders, their deans, their professors, and anyone
in the business community, and we also have a lot of valued guests from the business
world from various sectors. Were hoping that this night will be an avenue to network,
and hopefully create long-lasting partnerships.
Mawe Duque: Bakit hindi sa school yung event?
Alex Tanjanco: Theres no venue within any of the schools that can incorporate 200
people, and we want it to be medyo big time or classy or favoring one school. They were
originally thinking hotel, but this is more within our budget.
Louis de Jesus: Is this because you need to serve food in the event?
Alex Tanjanco: Yes
Louis de Jesus: So hindi pwede Roofdeck?
Alex Tanjanco: This is classy because well be meeting with big time people like all of the
deans.
Ray Gomez: So thats what each school will be paying?
Alex Tanjanco: No, this is our share like others will be covering food etc
Carmela Vinzon: Bakit 10 pesos yung invitation
Alex: Because it comes in an envelope pa, and the design
CJ Leong: I remember we talked about ABC before. Can you brief us about the purpose
or goals of ABC?
Alex Tanjanco: The main purpose of ABC is to increase collaborative efforts with UP and
La Salle kasi were supposed to be the premier business schools of the country, and we
think theres a lot of potential for us to collaborate because given our reputation, we can
do a lot of things as premier business schools of the country. One of the main goals is to
support each others projects given that we have a lot of similar interests and specialties,
and hope fully share resources, and second, create projects of our own that we feel can
not only benefit our own schools, but also the business students. In fact, weve already
planned for long term expansion. We already have a system in mind, if ever other schools
would like to join our alliance, but right now, its just between our three schools.
Ray Gomez: How do you concretize like a mission, vision?
Alex Tanjanco: We have a working constitution

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CJ Leong: Will you be inviting orgs as orgs, not as individual students?


Alex Tanjanco: We already have the list from Ateneo. Were already inviting selected
people from the Sanggunian, from BC, the Guidon and a lot of professors. Its selected
lang.
Mawe Duque: How are you planning to institutionalize this ABC?
Alex Tanjanco: In one sem.
Mawe Duque: Parang ratify the consti?
Alex Tanjanco: The consti was adopted by all of the ABC 2014 teams, so everyone read
through all the points.
Ray Gomez: Its weird that you have to launch this alliance, but the target is very small.
How will the rest know about this business council?
Alex Tanjanco: The launch is supposed to be our effort to introduce the alliance, but then
for future plans, given that its very hard to communicate between the three schools given
the distance and scheduling, how we imagine it to go, is every year, theres gonna be a
major flagship event. Its the job of each business council to make sure that their
constituents are aware that there is a business council, but right now, we dont want to
promote anything before the launch. Because this is the only time were introducing the
alliance to the public. Eveything before this is internal because it hasnt been finalized or
ready to be launched. Its only after this that we can start informing other people about it.
And they will be aware of it through the efforts of the alliance.
Luigi del Rosario: Once na-launch yung ABC, does that mean it adopts the name of
Ateneo? When I go out of Ateneo, kasama ako sa ABC, Ateneo is officially endorsing
ABC. Or is this an independent thing?
Alex Tanjanco: Right now, its an independent thing. But then, at the start of the year, I
brought it up with Dean Yu and he was very much interested in the concept of this.
Luigi del Rosario: With that answer din, if its an independent thing, and youre saying the
members are invite-only, I dont see how long term it could benefit the entire Ateneo
community. Kasi its kumbaga parang very elitist so siguro try to figure that out, how
youre going to make it more inclusive
Alex Tanjanco: Right now its very exclusive. We havent tackled if there are any plans
how were going to expand it.
Louis de Jesus: So para siyang socialization event of the most powerful business elite in

the country in the future most powerful business elite of the country
Alex Tanjanco: Yes, I guess thats one goal of the event, but one way to think of it also
rather than a big socializing event is a way to establish the credibility of the alliance and
the partnership of the three schools, which is what we want to do so parang watch out or

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join us or help us, and were open to partnering with you all in addition to the socializing
aspect
Mawe Duque: I repeat my previous comment nung last ABC proposal. I want to see first
the ratification of the consti for ABC to be legitimate as an organization on paper before
approving it kasi di natin alam.
Alex Tanjanco: The councils of the business schools are very independent. They dont
coordinate as much with their administration.
Ryan Yu: Bakit hindi nalang gawin yung institutionalizing? At least set a particular
direction kasi what Im hearing right now is were going to throw a party, but its nothing
complete. But if its going to be a launch of a couple of years worth of activities, this is
going to be the official start of ABC tapos next year, well have these activities.
Alex Tanjanco: Thats whats going to happen.
Miguel Hamoy: I sort of know where Alex is coming from. Ive worked with DLSU and
UP in the past, and the thing is that the reason why she keeps repeating that council is
independent from the admin thats why its so hard to come up with a framework that is
adaptable for all three schools because they all operate so differently from us so its hard
to come up with something institutionalizing for us that might not qualify as
institutionalizing for them.
Alex Tanjanco: When you mean by institutionalizing, that means adopting it as an Ateneo
as endorsed by Ateneo.
Motion to approve the budget for ABC for a total of 20,000 Php: Ryan Yu
Seconded: Julien Olisa
For

Against

VP

3 SOM CB

Sec-Gen

3 SOSS CB

2 SOM CB

3 SOH CB

2 SOSS CB

2 SOSE

1 SOM CB

By virtue of simple majority (50%+1): Budget is approved


Motion to defer the Blue Roast agenda indefinitely: Miguel Hamoy
Seconded: Julien Olisa
Motion is approved

5)

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Year Council Resolutions: Management Bundled Class & Legal Management


Curriculum Revision (Mawe Duque)
Mawe Duque: One of the objectives of SOM this year is to train the course
representatives to make resolutions per year level and right now were presenting an LM
and Management representative for their courses. The resolution of LM is to include
Business Ethics and Intellectual Property Law in the curriculum of the LM majors and
provide additional electives.
Mela Suarez: Just a brief intro, we surveyed our constituents and the common issue they
found was they didnt find enough law subjects in the curriculum. There was no
delineation between Management and LM because we have very similar law subjects. We
actually compared it with the curriculum of other LM college programs, and they
definitely have a lot more law subjects. What were pushing for now is for the addition of
one law subject. This is based on the survey we did on our constituents. They actually
wanted more law subjects, but were just starting small.
Ryan Yu: How many units yung total IPS?
Mela Suarez: Its not 162 kasi were not required to take summer sem before 4th year.
Polo Martinez: I like this because its very indicative of the academic vigor that you LM
majors have. However my problem is it seems to conflate, well, lets just say that the
electives here do not reside in the management sphere. For example, you have
International Trade Law, which is more of a SOH subject, if you ask me. As a PolSci
major, we had PIL so perhaps you might like to coordinate with the different departments
in the SOSS school in order to facilitate some of the electives you want. Because again,
Management is centered on business, and some of the stuff here do not necessarily reside
in business alone.
Mela Suarez: We were actually discussing it with Mawe. We take up IPL in our subject,
but the thing is, its so condensed. Its actually something that we feel would be good if
they go into media. As for International Trade, we have a minor that requires it. Well be
talking with the department chairs to clarify.
Polo Martinez: Maybe you'd like to look into the course description of LM itself. I like
this, but it seems too ambitious in a sense that youre jumping the shark so to speak, and it
seems to conflate with the other electives as well, which would be available in other
schools and other courses.
Mela Suarez: We have a lot less law subjects than San Bedas LM. They take constitutional
law, civil law, which is not really management related, and we feel that to be more
competitive, we need more law subjects.
Miguel Hamoy: Have you considered the fact that a lot of these LM programs prepare
their students for law on the presumption that they will go to their partner law school?
Mela Suarez: I think thats actually a misconception. A lot of LM majors go into business.
LM is more about business law. Its not a pre-law.

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Miguel Hamoy: Thats my bad. Do you have any other concerns where your constituents
concerns were coming from when they wanted these extra electives?
Mela Suarez: Theyre just complaining about it. If you compare it with management, yeah
they only have one law, but its a condensed version of 2-3 of law subjects, so it makes
LM not as specialized as we would like
Ray Gomez: Regardless of our opinions, I still think this should push through so they
could start a conversation with the admin
CJ Leong: Im afraid lang walang transitory provisions ito like how are you sure na mauuphold yung resolution na to after we pass it. Someone should be making sure na
matutuloy ito. You should put a person an in charge dito

Motion to approve the resolution entitled, Resolution to Include the Business Ethics and
Intellectual Property Law in the curriculum of the Legal Management Majors and Provide
Additional Electives: Ray Gomez
Seconded: Jared Sarmiento
Motion unanimously approved
Resolution adopted unanimously

Mawe Duque: This will be an interesting resolution. I dont know if you can see it as a
possible suggestion for other courses, but let us look into one of the Management
problems this year.
-: One of the biggest topics for third year Management students is the majors. In the
past year, and the year before that, we were informed that these classes would be bundled,
but then two weeks before enlistment, we found out that its not.
Jared Sarmiento: Im very interested in this because Im also a Management major. If Im
correct, bundling means in third year if youre classmates in one class, youre classmates in
all classes. Can you emphasize how important it is to be bundled in these classes?
-: With the bundling of these classes, perhaps we can have one project for OpMan and
MKT.
Alex Tanjanco: I want to stress the importance of bundling classes especially in third year.
If the classes arent bundled, the first problem that you will encounter is its unfair for the
second batch. What they usually do is they mix and match the professors based on
popular demand and supposed galing so its fair for both first and second batch
students. Secondly, bundling helps students to avoid scheduled conflicts kasi those are
three classes. All three units each. They do it strategically in a way that these classes wont
conflict with one another. I heard this year that those people who were second batch were
stuck with the unwanted professors plus they experienced a lot of schedule conflicts.
Its a matter of being fair and avoiding a lot of unnecessary problems. I actually dont
know why its only this year that they didnt bundle classes.
Julien Olisa: How exactly did they announce that these classes would not be bundled?

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-: As I was going through AISIS

Motion to approve the resolution entitled, Resolution to Institutionalize the Bundling of


Third Year Second Semester Major Subjects for BS Management Majors: Alecs Reasonda
Seconded: CJ Leong
Motion unanimously approved
Resolution adopted unanimously
6)

Emergency Budget Hearing: Blue Roast Committee (Maki de Jesus)


Andrea Diaz: So last week we had the first part of our presentation to the CB meeting.
This week we were called back again to show our revised budget proposal.
Maki de Jesus: First of all, we want to show you what we presented last week.
Andrea Diaz: We cut down and deemed some of them as want to have and not need to
have. We cut down our supplies from 5000 to 10000. We decided to focus on student
DJs. We took out our confetti blizzard
Maki de Jesus: We removed the fireworks
Andrea Diaz: As well as the LED helium balloons
Maki de Jesus: We emphasized the need of student need this year
Andrea Diaz: The Blue Roast team last year incurred a loss of 175k that loss has been
carried over to our team. Were the first Blue Roast team that is working on a negative
budget
o
Louis de Jesus: Youre asking the Sanggu to pay for 500k of the 1 million plus?
Where will the rest come from?
o
Maki de Jesus: Sponsorships, fundraising initiatives, and ticket sales
o
Louis de Jesus: The different things that happened last year, has anyone launched
an investigation into this
o
Andrea Diaz: The shirt selling, we tried to come up with a rationale as to why we
cant do shirt selling this year. Year after year we get a million shirts from all of
our different orgs and people our batch wouldnt feel the need to buy another
shirt. Its just that since its become a practice for orgs and different projects to
sell shirts, I guess thats why they thought that it would work last year.
o
Louis de Jesus: The year before 2014, there was no debt diba? So what was the
difference?
o
Maki de Jesus: Actually from last year, we didnt have an accurate number so we
just got what we could get from last year. Some files were not actually recorded so
what we got were those numbers that we presented. Last year, they were hoping
for the best, but we thought about it from what we presented last week were
asking for what we want, not really need. So what were presenting now is what
we actually need for the event to function.

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Alex Tanjanco: I think its a bit sketchy that theres a lot of unresolved finance
issues, and I think the only way to show that it isnt sketchy is to show us like the
shirts
Maki de Jesus: In our meeting with Sir Chris, he said that they were giving the
shirts to less fortunate people.
Andrea Diaz: For me if they werent able to sell it, I dont think well be able to
sell
Maki de Jesus: For this year, were not selling the jackets because we have a
planned initiative that were going to go on consignment with a couple of students
who actually want to sell their products.
Andrea Diaz: Whats different from last year is what were going to peg these
suppliers to be as the official Blue Roast 2015 suppliers. Costs will be on their end
Alex Tanjanco: So there was no discrepancy with regards to finances?
Ga-el Mendoza: Pano binenta yung shirts/jackets?
Maki de Jesus: There was shirt selling during the event. If I remember right, they
sold the jackets online, but they were also selling during the event.
Ga-el Mendoza: I was thinking release it online then ipag-pre-order. Wag nalang
kayo magbenta on the day itself para hind kayo gumawa ng production for it.
Gawa ka nalang ngpre-order.
Karlo Abadines: OSA started giving it away. Did they not absorb that? For the
shirts, pwedeng just sell it on Ateneo Trade at a discount? At the most kasi were
just trying to minimize your loss. Either OSA absorbs it and you sell the rest.
Ryan Yu: On my end, I think were commit to helping you with that at least. To
make sure na hindi niyo responsibility/yung debt na yun.
Ray Gomez: 500k is still very high.
Andrea Diaz: We didnt ask for the 175k to be subsidized
Ray Gomez: I know, but then
Alecs Reasonda: May updates na ba about sa issue na yun? About sa people who
were supposed to be accountable for that? Kasi diba parang may issue na kapag
hindi niyo nabayaran, hindi kayo gagraduate?
Make de Jesus: Graduate pero walang diploma
Karlo Abadines: How big is the difference between the expenses from last year
and two years ago?
Maki de Jesus: We couldnt tell you
Karlo Abadines: I was wondering lang if you could parallel
Ryan Yu: Historically, magkano yung binibigay ng Sanggu?
Andrea Diaz: Based on what you said, its more or less the same
Ryan Yu: Hindi ako willing gumastos ng 500 pero Ray was saying we can give the
500 less the 175 pero I dont think it makes sense that were subsidizing three

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OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY-GENERAL

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things minus a debt. Yung proposal ko is, we subsidize the souvenirs and the blue
roses for a total of 300 and thats it.
Ryan Yu: Yung rationale ko is I want to help them lang
Marianne Vitug: I dont agree that thats a precedent that because youre giving
300k, and that if you give more, people will always give the Blue Roast team more
because we already know that theyre starting at a deficit so for me I think its only
fair to give them at least 400k because you cant discount the deficit because
theyre already starting from it. If you gave the Blue Roast team 200k last year and
theyre only asking for that plus money to cover the deficit around 400k, wouldnt
that be the minimum amount that would be fair to give them so that they will start
at a level playing field to the other Blue Roast teams?
Ray Gomez: Were promising that they dont have to carry that burden anymore.
Marianne Vitug: But if the Sanggu had the power to do that, then why werent
able to do that to the Blue Roast team last year?
Ray Gomez: We werent aware of this deficit until they presented it
Ryan Yu: I think problematic rin siya kasi what if in the future, a Blue Roast team
again incurs a deficit?
Polo Martinez: How exactly do we lobby for the waving of the burden of them
having to pay for it? Parang kasi it seems like a Band-aid solution given that this
stemmed from the previous committee. Shouldnt we be getting into the root of
the problem, which could be seen as the protocol in which admin passes on the
burden to them? The only possible and concrete way I think we can legitimately
answer this is through a resolution, cause its really unfair for them to be given
this burden.
Karlo Abadines: Following up on what Polo said, can we just give them an
amount that will help them kasi you can pass a resolution? If the resolution
somehow hindi natin ma-solve this week yung OSA issue then we can add
another amount. Release some funds now that we agree upon
Alecs Reasonda: Can we talk about what we can do about the deficit?
Mawe Duque: So at the end of the day, dapat yung hinahabol natin is yung project
heads? Are we expecting that they pay the 175k?
Ryan Yu: No.
Polo Martinez: Is the passing on of the deficit to the next or subsequent
committee a budgetary protocol by the admin? Kasi if that principle applies there,
it can apply anywhere.
Alex Tanjanco: The deficit within Sanggu is usually passed on to the next because
as SOM Sec-Treas last year, two years ago there was a SOM deficit. May utang
yung Sec-Treas then from Faras time it was passed onto JVs time just so she
could graduate, and then JV out of the kindness of his heart, paid for it himself so
that it wouldnt be passed onto me.

Room 200 MVP Student Leadership Center


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Polo Martinez: Thats institutional violence!


Mawe Duque: For me I have two points lang. Una, Im kind of confused as to
how Blue Roast is working in the scheme of Sanggu things so I really dont know
the limitation of the relationship between the two. Second, maybe its a calling for
us to make our transitionary efforts more transparent.
Karlo Abadines: May proposal ako: lets absorb around 240k and then pass a
resolution to find a way to find where that missing money went. In the case that
we do bail out, can we have a promise where Blue Roast can be handled much
more by the Sanggunian. Parang i-aabsorb ng Sanggunian.
Mawe Duque: Actually its one of the proposals that Sanggu treat Blue Roast in
par of OrSem with everything, so were trying to lobby that after our budget
proposal.
Ryan Yu: In other words, may certainty na gagraduate kayo. That if we cannot bail
you out in term of OSA not passing the burden to you, we will pay for the 175k
debt pero yung kapalit is the following year, Sanggu absorbs you.
Louis de Jesus: I think what Karlos proposing is a very workable solution.
Polo Martinez: I wouldnt recourse to a bailout immediately. For me, if its a
structural problem, identify what causes the problem in the structure. If admin
can conveniently pass on the burden to the next committee, what guarantees that
they wouldnt do it again the next time around with or without a resolution?
Andrea Diaz: Personally I have a worry that if we try to talk to OSA and to pay
for that 175k kasi we get our loans from them to start off a lot of the things that
we planned so they might be a little less willing to give us money
Ryan Yu: My operating proposal is we give you 300k outright in support of all the
souvenirs, then we give you an option of the 175k in case we talk to OSA and
they refuse to take the 175k cost out of your budget, then we will pay for the 175
also with the condition that Blue Roast 2016 is absorbed under Sanggu.
Louis de Jesus: To Polos point, if there are structural issues that are not being
addressed, then were going to give a bail out with very few strings attached, then
why is there no plan to restructure the whole thing?
Ryan Yu: Step one is to talk to OSA first. The first priority is we dont pay for the
bail out. We restructure first. In the attempt na hindi kaya, we pay for it just so
they can graduate.

Ryan Yu: Motion to approve the Blue Roast budget for souvenirs and roses for a total of 300,000 Php
with the condition that the Sanggunian Central Board gives its explicit support to the Blue Roast 2015 Team
to ensure that the debt incurred last year of 175,000 Php is not imposed on the current team, and if that is
the case, the Blue Roast Team of this year becomes unable to graduate or has any other rights violated, the
Sanggunian will be willing to shoulder the 175,000 Php debt with the condition that Blue Roast 2016 will
be kept under strict monitoring by the Sanggunian.

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Seconded: Karlo Abadines


Objection: Mawe Duque
Mawe Duque: My question to the motion is why not, motion to approve the budget that
assures them protection of students rights. Yung problem ko with waiting to pay the 175k
pesos basta grumaduate kayo, kami na bahala. Hindi na natin sasabihin na basta gagraduate
sila and its up to us. Paying the 175k is sketchy parin for me it should be looked through a
bigger enviroment. Basta for me, motion to approve the budget and give them student
protection of their rights.
Motion of Ryan Yu is withdrawn.
Ryan Yu: Motion to approve the budget of 300,000 Php, and assure the Blue Roast team of the protection
of their student rights particularly with the 175,000 Php debt.
Motion unanimously approved
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ATF2016 & CAA Resolutions (CJ Leong)


CJ Leong: Yung institutionalization plan na to, its already been discussed with the
ADAA. Course evaluations, no professor evaluations
Louis de Jesus: Why not open to faculty evaluations?
CJ Leong: May avenue na yung students to comment on professors in Project Blue, for
courses, wala pa
Louis de Jesus: Courses are nothing without the professors. The professors make the
course. Philo 101 is very different between professor A and professor B
Miguel Hamoy: The thing is that I received a lot of comments from a lot of different
people. If you ask some professors, some profs in Ateneo act like gods. I do concede to
Louis point, but there is a need for a countermeasure.
Motion to approve the resolution entitled, Resolution to Call on the Associate Dean on
Academic Affairs to Furnish Semestral Course Evaluations for the Sanggunian Committee on
Academic Affairs: Alecs Reasonda
Seconded: Jared Sarmiento
Resolution adopted unanimously
ATF
Phase 1: Reg
Phase 2: Voters Ed/Mock
Phase 3: Elections
Phase 4: Bantay Pangako
* ATF Moderator

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* ATF Structure
* Stakeholders
* Targets

CJ Leong: Two task forces were created for the elections before. In 2010,
nakaestablish talaga sila ng satellite reg. The task force in 2013 was only able to set
up transpo. In 2010, phase 1 was reg. Not just for Ateneo students, but for LS
and org communities. Phase 2 was voters ed and mock elections. Nag-invite sila
ng candidates running, and used orgs and athletes to disseminate info. Phase 3
was elections mismo, Bantay Halalan. Student volunteers guarded voting sites. For
feedback, nalagyan sana ng phase 4: Bantay Pangako. Kung paano ine-execute ng
vinote natin yung platforms nila. Kailangan talaga magawa since its in the
BUKLOD resolution. If ever makakatayo tayo ng satellite reg, we need to rush.
We have to ask COMELEC for the new changes to incorporate in phase 1. We
need to identify the ATF moderator. We want it to be an Ateneo initiative, not
just the task force. Next is ATF structure and to identify stakeholders. And lastly,
set targets per phase. This is for proper transitioning for the next administration.
o Alecs Reasonada: There was a suggestion before that we start with a small
undergraduate task force, tapos sila na lang yung magtatransition.
o Mawe Duque: It might be late if it is started next year.
o CJ Leong: Gael and Mawe and me, well work on it and well show it to this
body.

Motion to adjourn the meeting: Polo Martinez


Seconded: Ga-el Mendoza
Meeting adjourned

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