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Powder Coating Leaf Springs
Powder Coating Leaf Springs
I was planing on taking apart my leaf springs and having them powder coated. My question
is would the heat from the oven damage(De arch)the springs.
Thanks
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Scott Carl
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I can't speak to the question about the oven, but I would think the
powder coating would crack and flake off with the flexing of the
springs.
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The oven temp would be 330 degrees. I work in a Ecoat powdercoat shop so its not going to cost anything.
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Rug_Trucker
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Two comments:
Rug, I would not sandblast a torsion bar or leaf spring
because if the sand is sharp enough it could put
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So which one is the one that you can see stress cracks
beginning underneath?
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jcc
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It's been my experience that any brittle coating will show cracks
when the substrate deforms. I use it to discover where
deformation has occurred. Chrome either cracks or flakes. Powder
coat cracks unless it is very elastic. Paint cracks. Even mill scale,
the blackish stuff on the surface of hot rolled steel, will crack if the
part deforms.
Of course, I was using something I had already learned. An older
way of determining strains in parts (before finite element analysis)
was to make a part and coat it with special paint called "brittle
coat". Then load the part. Remove the load and inspect the part.
Cracks in the brittle coat would be perpendicular to the strain. One
could tell from the cracks what strains were occurring.
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roe
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I would do it if the springs are pit free after blasting (most are
not) and BTW, after you blast and powdercoat , get a re-build kit
with the interleafs and straps you may have over $500 into a set
of old worn out springs.
Where can you get a rebuild kit with the interleafs and
straps? If I can afford to replace my springs, then Im
thinking about pulling mine, wire wheeling them, paint
them black, and then reinstalling...and some of the
interleafs really need to be replaced. And just to be sure,
the interleafs refer to the little plastic peices at in between
the tips of the leafs right?
thanks
roe
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I use POR-15 also, 6 years later and it looks like the day I
painted them. Very flexible paint.
Three of my cars have sagging rear springs. I have donor spring sets I can take apart to
add a leaf on each side.
Are any special tools needed to separate the spring packs & put new clamps back on?
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Once the spring is out, all you need is a c-clamp or large clampstyle vise grip, and a wrench to take them apart. So easy a child
can do it.
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Do it the easy way: don't even remove the main leaf from the
hangers. Jack up vehicle and put on stands. remove lower from
plate, Remove ubolts from spring mounts, Jack rear end housing
up away from springs and leave under vehicle so that all you have
to do is let it back down into position, remove tie bolt, drop leaves
off main leaf, position new leaf in the order desired, Use a longer
tie bolt and hang all the leave is order but at various angles, now
tighten the tie bolt and as tightening swing the leaves into
position, when tight cut off excess tie bolt.
I usually just find a pair of main leaves and cut off the eyes and
position next to the main leaf. No need to make it a major back
breaking operation.
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Get new spring studs also.I get mine from local spring shop.NAPA
did have them.You will have to cut them down after they are
tightened as they are long.Rocky
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RapidRobert
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alot of times the rounded head special bolt the threads (even tho 1
or 2) are fubared from road debris. Crack/remove the nut with a
nut cracker so as to not chance breaking the shank. As said (2) C
clamps
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Have used 3/8" conn. rod bolts as center bolts in the past here. As
long as the springs packs aren't too numeric in leaf count, and
hole is big enough.
The 9/16" nut usually fits in pad or shock
mount plate.
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Barry, let me know if you need new spring tip pads (the black
plastic pads with the short barrel clips) as I have NOS. I also made
the spring clamps for Year One for many years & recently declined
to make any more of them, but I still have some leftover extras.
There are two sizes of these: the short ones go around 3 leaves,
the long ones go around 4 leaves. I do not have the zinc interliners
or any more of the rubber clamp pads. Let me know. Also, my
spring clamps are clear zinc plated so they look silvery like new
steel. OE clamp bands were bare steel. Mine are also the same
style as the OE ones that have the tab you fold over. When you try
to remove old ones, the tab always breaks off so the clamp is
trash.
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Alaskan_TA
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Thanks Eric. It looks like all the soft parts will be fine, the cars
have under 40k miles & the donor springs are in excellent
condition as well.
Reged: Jan 20 2003
Loc: Still moving in.
I am not sure what & will need for clamps yet, I will send you an
email.
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If you go with new clamps, make sure to pre-bend the tip a bit so
it fits into the square opening with ease.........
Then, two C-clamps and a hard plastic hammer and you are good
to go!!!!
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Higher spring rate equals more axle control and handing but
remember ride quality will be sacrificed.
If you JUST want to change the ride height. Have a local leaf
spring shop rearch your springs.
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Get new spring studs also.I get mine from local spring shop.NAPA did
have them.You will have to cut them down after they are tightened as
they are long.Rocky
Get ones with the flat (like OE) on the inside of the u bolt "curve"
if you can find em. If you think you might be taking em apart
anytime soon I'd run a rethreading die up the threads then cut it
below where the die is then unscrew the die to chase the threads.
makes it easy for the nuts to come back off/on if ever needed in
the future
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I am looking for the locating studs that hold the spring pack
together.
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The top end of that fastener is hidden, so even if you are doing a
factory original restoration, nobody will know if you cheated and
used a high strength socket screw instead.
The heads of the generic, hardware store socket screws were just
the right diameter - plus you can use an Allen wrench to tighten.
Hack saw to length as needed.
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I am looking for the locating studs that hold the spring pack together.
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Yes I got off on a tangent & also on the U bolts if I am saving them
I unbolt the nuts just far enough to get a nut cracker on them
also. unthreading them by hand ain't a job for the weak (impact
required) & damages the nicked threads further & a nut
cracker/rethreading die solves that & will make installing new nuts
easy peasy. EDIT For sure use the nut cracker on the rounded
head bolt as it only takes several minutes and I ain't sure the allen
head bolts have a long enough head to fully engage the perch(s),
but I have not checked em & maybe full engagment ain't critical
that the U bolts take care of most of the securing but I dont like
taking unneccessary chances. If you have a nut cracker use it
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Edited by RapidRobert (Tue Mar 17 2015 11:19 AM)
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The top end of that fastener is hidden, so even if you are doing a factory
original restoration, nobody will know if you cheated and used a high
strength socket screw instead.
The heads of the generic, hardware store socket screws were just the
right diameter - plus you can use an Allen wrench to tighten. Hack saw to
length as needed.
x2. It only aligns the axle - it doesn't hold it in place. So you don't
need the perfect NOS part unless these are restos nor does it need
to be hardened. Any bolt will do as long as the head fits the hole in
the spring perch.
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