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Response To Astonishing Truths
Response To Astonishing Truths
This article has been circulating on facebook and I wanted to clear up some of its misguided teaching for my youth group
students. Im going to start from Immortality of Man because thats where the issues start to come up. This is a very
brief explanation on each of these topics. Because of the felt urgency for this write-up, some points are not fully
explained. I just covered the important ones. Im just assuming that my students will be able to read between the lines
for some of the following points. This writing is primarily for my students anyway.
For further studies, you should speak to me person to person or engage in some good Bible study. Some good
recommended sights are:
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www.carm.org
www.everystudent.com
www.gotquestions.org
www.gci.org
Immortality of Man?
To summarize this section:
1. Men do not live forever. That there is physical death for everyone. [agreed]
2. Eternal life (Spiritual) will be granted to those who are found worthy at the resurrection [agreed]
3. Bible never promises a heavenly paradise to unbelievers or even to the righteous. [DISAGREE]
a. It is true as the author says, as he quotes Heb.11:13, that the saints and the dead are awaiting the final
day of judgment. That have not yet received what they are promised through faith. But that does not
mean they have not received the promise. There is a huge difference.
i. Also, there is an agreed upon dispute between immediate heaven after death and waiting for
judgment day in the waiting room before heaven. There are supporting passages for both.
b. The author says that there is no promise of heaven to anyone. In fact, promise of heaven happen
rampantly.
i. John 14:1-3. Jesus promises a place in heaven for his disciples.
ii. Eph.2:8-9. Paul reminds us that we are indeed saved by faith; that salvation is a certainty with
the gift of faith.
iii. 1 John 5:13. John tells us that we can be assured that we have eternal life in this life; and we
dont have to wait until the judgment day. If you believe in the name of the Son of God, then the
promise of heaven is yours indeed.
c. The quotation of King David not going to heaven (Acts 2:34) is seriously out of context.
i. If you read from v.25, then you quickly gain the perspective that Peter is trying to tell the Jews
that David was actually saying as it is quoted from Ps.16:8-11.
ii. The apparent problem in Ps.16:8-11 is how can David, who obviously died, claim that he would
never see decay!?
iii. Peter is saying that David wasnt talking about HIMSELF, but was prophesying about Jesus.
iv. It is in this context that David says, The Lord said to my Lord, Sit at my right hand.
1. The author takes the beginning of this verse, For David did not ascend into the
heavens to mean that David didnt go to heaven!
2. This description means one thing in context:
a. When David was saying this, David didnt rise to heaven yet; simply, he didnt
die yet. How can he be speaking about sitting next to God in heavenly realms.
b. He is NOT talking about himself but Christ. He makes a note of this in the next
verse in verse 36. Jesus also makes a note of this in Matthew 22:44.
c. In simple English, it would sound like this. How can David who hasnt gone into
heaven talk about sitting next to the Lord at that moment? And the Lord calls
David Lord? Certainly, David is not talking about himself but prophesying about
the Christ, who is Jesus!
iii. Acts 20:7, And on the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread,
Paul began talking to them, intending to depart the next day, and he prolonged his message
until midnight.
iv. 1Cor.16:1-2, Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I directed the churches of Galatia,
so do you also. 2 On the first day of every week let each one of you put aside and save, as he may
prosper, that no collections be made when I come
1. The first day is Sunday. The first disciples and the first church gathered on the first day
of the week to share communion and preaching and to gather tithes.
v. Rev.1:10-11, I was in the Spirit on the Lords day, and I heard behind me a loud voice like the
sound of a trumpet, 11saying, "Write in a book what you see, and send it to the seven churches:
to Ephesus and to Smyrna and to Pergamum and to Thyatira and to Sardis and to Philadelphia
and to Laodicea.
1. This is the first incident in the Bible where Lords Day (ta kuriaka hamera) occur.
2. From the 2nd Century, Lords Day is taken to be Sunday (Ignatius, Epistle to the
Magnesians)
Unholy Holly-day
To Summarize this Section:
1) Easter and Christmas were originally pagan holidays. [Agreed]
a. Christians have re-defined them. Early Christians, including Paul, might have encouraged this to add the
true meaning of celebration to celebrations that celebrated wrong things.
b. Christians never think about Ishtar when we celebrate the Lords resurrection on Easter. Some churches
call it Resurrection Sunday rather than Easter Sunday.
c. About Easter, http://www.gotquestions.org/easter-origins.html
d. About Christmas, http://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-Christmas.html
e. Also, https://carm.org/can-christians-celebrate-christmas
Three in One It Doesnt Add Up
To Summarize this Section:
1) Trinity is not Biblical. Therefore dont believe in it. [DISAGREE]
a. Im not even going to spend my time trying to defend the Trinitarian God.
b. The absence of the term does not mean the absence of the concept.
c. The Bible is replete on describing the Father as God, the Son as God, and the Holy Spirit as God. The
problem is that we cant wrap our logical minds around it; not the truthfulness of it.
d. Read, https://carm.org/cut-trinity
c. Did the shape of the cross look like a T or a cross? The shape really does not matter. When Christians
refer to the cross, we dont mean the exact wood that Jesus was crucified on. It is a powerful symbol of
Jesus sacrifice, the atoning work on behalf of humanity.
d. For more discussion, See: https://www.gci.org/Jesus/cross