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All+No=No
All+Some=No Conclusion
Some+All=Some
Some+No= Some Not
Some+Some= No Conclusion
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3. No Bird is Monkey
Conclusions:
1. No Parrot is Monkey
2. Some Cows being Monkey is Possibility
We know you might be able to solve it by using Venn diagram method that's good but this method
won't help or a bit tough when it comes to No or possibility Conclusions
Here is explanation
Lets take 1st conclusion, we have to make relation between Parrot and Monkey so we will take
statements 2 and 3.
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This is called Cross Cancellation , We have cancelled Bird from Bird so we have left with (ALL+NO)
rule, and that leads to No Parrot is Monkey So Conclusion I is TRUE.
In second statement we have Cow and Monkey so we will need to make relation between them.
For this we need to take all 3 statements.
Now we have left with ((All+All)+NO) that is No Cow is Monkey . We dont have any rule to convert
this statement into Possibility so second conclusion is FALSE
I think we are clear with above explanation now see about Vertical Cancellation
Example 2:
Statements:
1. Some Mails are Messages
2. All Updates are Messages
Conclusion:
1. All Mails Being Update is a Possibility
2. No Update is Mail
Lets take Conclusion All Mails Being Update is a Possibility that means we have to make relation
between Mails and Updates
This is called Vertical cancellation. In this case direction of adding first phrase will be reversed i.e In
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Another update is now a days in exams they are mentioning None, Only, Almost etc instead of All,
Some in both statements and conclusions so I'm listing the terms here.
All => Every, Each, Any, None, Not a single, Only
Remaining will be treated as follows
Some, Many, a few, Quite a few, Not many, Very little, Most of, Almost, Generally, Often,
Frequently, Atleast
Note: As far as I know these terms are very rare for Bank Exams.
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Anonymous March 16, 2015 10:41 p.m.
Thanks alot for sharing the tricks.. its very useful and easy to understand.
If possible kindly share some practice set.
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Harshini March 16, 2015 10:55 p.m.
You are welcome...
Already posted so many practice sets please Search or see in Tests label.
PM me if you have any doubts
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Harshini March 29, 2015 3:59 p.m.
Sorry Jai I didn't get your doubt clearly, can you please specify
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Hi Sekhar,
As you see there is No conclusion for Some+Some combination both in Venn diagram
model and these Rules model but there is one condition that must satisfy the following
rule
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Hi Laxmi,
Adding Atleast is just to confuse you...
you don't have to consider it
if
"at least some apples are mango" is given
just take
some apples are mango to solve that's it...
if you have any more doubts comment here.
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Conclusions:
I. All teachers as well as professors being
lecturers is a possibility.
II. All those teachers who are lecturers are
also professors.
1) if only conclusion I follows.
2) if only conclusion II follows.
3) if either conclusion I or conclusion II follows.
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Hi,
Here answer is 4...
For these kind of questions you have to draw the venn diagram and try to solve them by
meaning(instead of logic) most of the questions like these can be cleared...
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I already mentioned that these are very rare and unique ones, also they have three
terms in them so be aware of these kinds of questions and do like that.
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Hello,
Please clarify, what type of questions can not be solved with this method? I am bit confused
where to apply this method and where to apply venn diagram method.
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Hi Lalita,
No need to get confused every method is meant to solve quickly, here you can follow
any method but the thing is time consumption... Venn diagram takes a bit more time
incase of No and Possibilities comparing to Syllogism Rules I mentioned. If there
aren't any NO, Possibilities and you feel Venn model is easy you can use that...
All the Best
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Hi Vinita,
Suppose take
No A is B
All B are C
Now conclusion is
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Hi...
No + All = Some not reversed
so
No C is A
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Hi Jyothi,
You are correct... thanks for correcting me, I mistyped above answer and sorry for
confusing you.
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Hi Anugrih,
Some A are B
then following conclusions occur in possibilities
All A are B is a Possibility
(or)
All B are A is a Possibility
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If Statements consists only SOME or other combinations from which answers do not
occur
and
in Conclusions where any two conclusions consists of
SOME and NO with same names then it is possible to say EITHER OR here
Finally if those two also have different names then you can say
NEITHER NOR
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Hi,
I already mentioned in the above explanation USE these rules only in cases of NO and
Possibilities Cases to avoid confusions.
Anyway here in vertical cancellation as mentioned above you have to take
Some + All = Some
so that you will get Some Animals are Papers = 2nd conclusion
and Some can be reversed so that
Some animals are papers = Some papers are animals is true
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Hi Praveen,
In first conclusion Poor and Intelligent are taken so first you have to take A and B, by
cancelling Rich you will get Some poor are doctors as you see some + some = no
conclusion 1st one is false.
In 2nd conclusion Intelligent and doctors are taken if you do vertical cancellation Some
+ All = Some Intelligent are Rich
by rule in possibility Some A are B => All A are B is a Possibility or All B are A is a
Possibility
so 2nd follows
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Hi m@dm@x,
then answer will be only
Some + All = Some Intelligent are Rich
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Hi Rohan,
You have mistaken it...
No conclusion = Any POSSIBILITY is true
NOT any follows please refer again
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Hi Venkatesh Kumar
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Hi, can you be more precise about the doubt you mentioned.
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Hi Sarthak,
May I know which "Only statements" you are referring about?
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Hi Deepti,
If 'Some Mails are Messages' given in options then you can opt for it. I'm only
mentioning about possibility case here in direct
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Hi Deepti,
Ok lets say your answer is correct that is Some Mails are Messages in Possibility
Rules I mentioned Some can be transformed into All as follows
"If Some A are B = All A are being B is a Possibility or All B are being A is a Possibility"
now try again
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For the 1st cocnlusion we need 1st 3 statemnts to be used..but from 1st 2 only we get NO
CONCLUSION..I+O=No conclusion..hence 1st doesnt follow..But answer is 1st follows HOW???
plss explain
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Hi Subhashree,
I'm so sorry that this is the first time I'm seeing this type of syllogism. I too don't know
how to solve this but I will definitely try my level best to find solution for this.
Can you please say from where you found this?
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Hi Dimendra,
No +All gives Some Not (Reversed) so in those conclusions there is no Some not
Also
All dogs are cats can be taken as
either
Some cats are dogs
or
Some dogs are cats
hence
3rd conclusion follows
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Hi Ashok,
In this Only 2nd follows here is how
Some + Some = no conclusion
As per rules if there is No conclusion then Any Possibility is True
Here only 2nd conclusion is having Possibility
so it will be the answer.
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Hi Ashok,
First one already explained in above comments.
2nd ques
Some + No = Some Not
so
Some televisions are not mobile is correct remember ONLY SOME can be taken in
both ways whereas Some Not cannot.
3rd question
No + No = no conclusion
Therefore any Possibility will Follow
So Both follows since both have Possibility in them
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Q2
statement:
no fruit is vegetables
all potatoes are vegetables.
some fruits are apples
conclusion:
1 no fruit is a potato.
2 atleast some apples are fruits
Hi Saurabh,
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Q1:
Some apples are fruits + No fruit is vegetable = some apple are not vegetables as
some not appears 1st conclusion will not follow
If we take All potatoes are vegetables + No vegetable is fruits = No potato is fruit
Therefore Neither follows.
Q2:
All + No = No potato is fruit => No fruit is potato 1st follows
By converting 3rd we get Some apples are fruits (don't care about Atleast).
So Both Follows.
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Hi Varun,
Ans is Not Follows
As per conversion rules given in possibilities
if All A are B
then
Some B are Not A is possibility
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Hi,
All A are B can be directly converted into Some A are B (or) Some B are A
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Hi,
Anything + Some Not = no conclusion
so
your conclusion is not follows
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Hi,
sorry for the delay reply...
Almost every syllogism can be concluded by 2 or 3 statements, it doesn't matter how
many are given in question. You have to chose among them according to conclusions
that's all.
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Hi,
Sorry for not giving reply... busy in preparing an ebook for you guys about Indian
Banking and few more rules of Syllogisms...lot of work
Can you please post your comment again.... :-D
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Hi,
I felt Venn diagram model is tough in case of Possibilities to be frank I too got
confused using this model for possibility so I preferred explain it in Rules which is
posted here...
I'm really sorry for that but this is really easy method for solving them. If you just spend
some time for it in the beginning.
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I'm working on it at present. I will notify you soon after posting the notes.
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Mam could you wxplain some syllogism case where the statement contains some not and how to
arrive at conclusion in such cases
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Hi,
Suppose take
No A is B
Some B are C
Now conclusion is
no + some = some not (A is C) this has to be reversed
Therefore you get something like this
some C is not A
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Hi karthikeyan,
let me start with 3rd conclusion
for that you have to take 1 and 3 that is
Some + All give Some Pots are Rings hence this is true
Now 1 and 2 conclusion
I already mentioned when there is no answer arise from given statements and
conclusions have
SOME and NO (forgot to mention SOME NOT) with same Subjects and Predicates
then Either Or will be the answer
so
I and II will be either or case here
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the above post now. Thanks to you too for reminding it to me.
"No telephones are television" can be converted into
"Some telephones are not television" This is a valid transmission it is True.
4. can we convert No statement into some not with same subject and predicate?
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I'm really sorry it's my typing mistake I took wrong statement, here is corrected one...
From 1 and 2 we get "Some headphones are telephones"
Now
Some headphones are telephones + No telephones are television gives
Some headphones are not television
I didn't used 3rd conclusion to solve this. I just mentioned that 3rd conclusion has
arrived there itself that's all. We can't use conclusions to get answers.
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Yes we can, I have specified this in an Update above please refer that in post again
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Hi Gaurav,
Some + Some leads to No conclusion
you have to check two conditions:
1) if given conclusions are in possibility then it will be the answer,
2) check if the given statements posed as answer (by interchanging)
if these 2 are not satisfied then None follows is the answer
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Pls expain,
1)Statements:
All caps are crowns
Some crowns are masks
All masks are canvas
Conclusion:
No crown being canvas is possibility
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No it do not follows
All A are B => Some A are B or vice versa
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It is true
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Don't get confused when there is direct way to cancel you need not have to change the
pattern.
No + All gives Some not reversed
so Some C is not A
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Hi,
first let me explain about the conclusion given.
As conclusion deals with House and Teacher you have to take 1st and 3rd statements
to get conclusion.
so No + All gives Some Not Reversed you get Some teachers are not houses
so that conclusion does not follows...
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Hi again,
Now, I have mentioned above about two types of cancellations Cross and Vertical
based on these you can apply No + All or whatever based on the given statements and
conclusions...
I think I have cleared your doubt if you still got doubt please do comment here...
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Hi Sachin,
Lets start with from the last.
3. Here C and B are given so you can take 1st and 2nd statements
as per rule Some + Some gives None so any possibility is True so it Follows.
2. Just reverse the 2nd statement you will get it.
1. Here D and B are given as far as I remember that As well as is a possibility case.
In 1st conclusion there is no possibility so it do not follows.
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Hi Saketh,
I have already explained this in above post anyway here it is.
To explain this lets take a Simple example
No A is B
All B is C
So the conclusion you get for this will be as follows
(No+All) A is C = (Some Not Reversed) A is C
Therefore
Some C are Not A.
the subject and predicate will interchange their places...
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Hi Gaurav,
First convert Only = All and Most, Many = Some
then
For 1st conclusion All medicines are tablets + Some tablets are tonic = no conclusion
So it do not follows - similarly for 2nd conclusion...
As per rule Some => All Possibility 3rd conclusion follows
and there is no conclusion for 4th, also Possibility is given so it follows
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No day is night.
All nights are noon.
No noon is an evening.
Conclusions:
I. No day is noon.
II. No day is an evening.
ANS : neither conclusion I nor conclusion II follows.
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Conclusions:
I. No card is a paper.
II. Some papers are cards.
ANS: either conclusion I or conclusion II follows.
No day is night.
All nights are noon.
No noon is an evening.
Conclusions:
I. No day is noon.
II. No day is an evening.
ANS : neither conclusion I nor conclusion II follows.
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Hi Hema,
1. Take 3 and 4 statements as they mentioned Plate and Cup
Some + Some = No answer so it do not follows
2. You have to use 2, 3 and 4 for this but
All + Some also does not give any answer so it is also not true.
3. Take 1 and 2 you get All Papers are Cups => Some cups are papers
4. Convert 1st statement All papers are bottles => Some bottles are papers
So Only 3 and 4 follows
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Hi Nishant,
All A are B
Conclusion:
Some B are Not A is a Possibility
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my name is niket.
my doubt is how to implement your logic in this qstn as i don't know the venn diagram method.so
please explain me with ur logic how to solve this.Here all the 3 names (teacher,
professors,lecturer) are used together in conclusion in single statement.
Some teachers are professors.
Some lecturers are teachers.
Conclusions:
I. All teachers as well as professors being
lecturers is a possibility.
II. All those teachers who are lecturers are
also professors.
1) if only conclusion I follows.
2) if only conclusion II follows.
3) if either conclusion I or conclusion II follows.
4) if neither conelusion I nor conclusion II follows.
5) if both conclusions I and II follow.
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Hi Niket,
Lets see conclusion wise
1. From 1st Some teachers are professors there are possibilities that
All teachers are professors
All professors are teachers
Similarly, from 2nd Some lecturers are teachers there is a possibility that
All teachers are lecturers
So from All professors are teachers + All teachers are lecturers we get
All professors are lecturers.
Therefore All teachers and professors are lecturers is a possibility.
Note: All this is happened because they mentioned about POSSIBILITY here
in 1st conclusion so it follows
2. In 2nd conclusion they didn't gave possibility case so it is not possible to get
conclusion that is why it doesn not follow.
Tip: Some + Some => No conclusion which leads any possibility to TRUE
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Hi,
Do you have any example for this???
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Hi
I didn't get what you are saying...
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Given answer
1.if only conclusion 1 and 2 or 3 follow
2.if only conclsion 1,and 2 follow
3.if only conclusion 1 and 3 follow
4.if only conclusion 2 and 3 follow
5.none of these...
Hi,
1. All tea are coffee cannot be reversed so it is not follows
2. Can be is a possibility case it is also not follows
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3. All cool drinks are thumps up => some thumps up are cool drinks so it follows
Only 3 follows which is not given here so None of these is correct
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