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18thlegislature
10/28/2015
reply
theFederalGovernment
totheminorofDeputiesJanvanAken,WolfgangGehrcke,
ChristineBuchholz,otherMPsandtheDIELINKE.
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ProcurementofgunsMG5andG27
Preliminaryremarksbythequestioner
TheFederalMinistryofDefence(MoD),theprocurementofnew
Stormandmachineguns(G27andMG5)decided.Afterthelast
becomingpublicknowledgedeficienciesintheassaultrifleG36andapparent
Failingsinthepreviousaptitudeoftheriflestands
evenwhenMG5andtheG27inquestiontowhatextentthisallmeansforexamination
havebeenexhausted,andconsideredthesuitabilityapplied.
1.WhenandinwhatkindofdocumentwasintheansweroftheFederal
Governmenttoquestion6oftheSmallrequestonBundestagsdrucksa
che18/4999called"contractamendment"toMG5betweenFederal
MinistryandHeckler&Kochheld?
ThecontractamendmentwithpricereductionisintheframeworkagreementQ/K2DH/
R6796(1amendmentagreementandrecast)fromMarch11,2015included.
2.What"contractamendment"wasexactly(pleasespecifybreakdown)?
SubsequentclaimshavebeenchangedandacorrespondingPreisredu
financingagreed:
Accuracyinsinglefire:
Withrespecttoalengthoftubingmaybethroughtheuseofsubstituteortraining
exchangetubesofthemiddlemeetingpointbyamaximumof10cm(previously5cm)shift.
Accuracyinburst:
Withrespecttoalengthoftubingmaybethroughtheuseofsubstituteortraining
shippersexchangetubesofthemiddlemeetingpointbyamaximumof15cm(previously10cm)
gladly.
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TheanswerhasbeennamedtheFederalGovernmentbyletterfromtheMinistryofDefensefrom
October27,2015received.
Theprintedmatteradditionallycontainsinsmallertypefacethequestiontext.
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3.DoestheFederalGovernmentwiththestatementthatthe"contractamendment"
withregardtotherelocationoftheMiddlemeetingpoint(MTP)ontheprin
zipisbased,thatthecontracthasbeenadjustedtothegun,ratherthanthefiscal
defenseadaptedtotheTreaty?
TheFederalGovernmentagreeswiththestatementasnotto.
WastheneedforsupportbeyondclaimsbetweentheFederalOfficefor
Equipment,informationtechnologyanduseoftheBundeswehr(BAAINBw)and
themanufactureroftheMG5,thecompany(Fa.)Heckler&Koch(H&K),ameasureof
contractualmaximumdisplacementofthecentralmeetingplaceforpipeexchange
Lichagreedthatwasmutuallyregardedasfulfilled.OndutyER
recommendedpractices,however,youcouldnotaccess.Aspartofthefreight
teprfungthedetectionpatternturnedoutthattheagreedvalues
canonlybeachievedataveryhightechnicalandlogisticaleffort
wouldhavebeen.OnthepartoftheresponsibleprojectmanagerinBAAINBwwastherefore
agodecidedthatthemeasureofamaximumdisplacementofthecentralmeetingplace
pointtoattubechangetoanadequatetechnicallyachievablevalue
change.
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4.theagreedpricereductionHowhigh(pleasespecifypergun,
andifthisisnotpossible,pleasereducethetotalamountof
specify)?
Theagreedpricereductionamountsto1.6percentbasedonaweapon
Replacementpipe.
5.Whenandinwhatformhasthenecessarysupportofthisdeviation
(MTPshift)approved?
Thedefinitionofameasureforamaximumdisplacementofthecentralmeetingplace
pointattubechangeisnoneedcarrierdemandbased.Anincrease
approvaloftherequiredcarrierwasthereforenotrequired
6.WhowithintheMoD(andthedownstreamsectors)mustpresentthe
actionsledtothe"contractamendment"and"pricereductions"?
Thenegotiationsresultedintheprojectaswellasrepresentativesoftherelevantcompetent
endedtechnicalunits.
7.WasaSecretaryofStateoraStateSecretaryinthecontractadjustments
involvedorinformed?
Ifnot,whynot?
TheprocurementofthemachinegunMG5istheresponsibilityofthe
BAAINBwperformed.
Allspecificationsfordeterminingameasureofthedisplacementofthemedium
renmeetingpointwithtubechangingonMG5arebytheresponsibleproject
projectmanagerhasbeentakeninadditiontothenecessarysupportrequirements.Thesawn
shouldcarriersclaimswithinthemeaningofthetextapprovedonStatelevelphase
document"realizationapprovalMG,medium/MG5"of21May2013
shallnotbeaffected.AninformationoftheFederalMinistryofDefencewasthereforefundamentally
Lichnotrequired.Nevertheless,thecompetentministerialFachaufwas
viewtimelynotifiedofinformation.
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8.WhowithintheMoD(FederalMinister,SecretaryofStateorHeadsofState
Secretary,AssistantSecretaryOA),the"contractamendment"concludes
Approvedby(pleaseindicatethedate)?
Aministerialapprovalwasnotrequired.Incidentally,theresponse
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wordreferredtoquestion.7
9.WhenandhowwastheFederalMinisterforDefence,
Dr.UrsulavonderLeyen,firstreportedthenoncompliancewiththemaximum
DisplacementoftheMTPduringMG5informed?
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10.Who,whenandwhythedecisionhasbeenmade,despitetheNichterfl
mentintheprocurementhold?
Theprojectmanager,incooperationwithrepresentativesoftherelevantcompetent
Technicalpaperson2April2014,thepricereductionsfordifferentshippers
negotiateddelayofthecentralmeetingplaceforpipealternatingwiththeFa.H&K
delt,thecorrespondingpolicyadjustmenttookplaceon11March2015thThere
thedemandsofthe"realizationofapprovalMG,medium/MG5"from
21stMay,2013continuestomeet,thedecisionwasmade
ontheprocurement
Fungnoted.
11.WhenandinwhatformwastheFederalMinisteroraState
secretaryoraStateSecretaryinformedofthisdecision?
Referenceismade
totheanswertoquestion.7
12.Whohastheexactcompliancewiththerequiredmaximumdisplacementof
MTP(inthenew,softerversion)whenandwhereexactlychecked,
andtowhatdocumentthiscompliancehasbeencertified?
CompliancewiththeconditionsoftheTechnicalDeliverymaximum
lenshiftofthemiddlemeetingpointfortubechangeisinthecourseof
GEqualitytest(typetestanddeliveryofcheck)thecontractor
verifiedandconfirmedbytheofficialGteprfdienst.Theresults
detainedintheGteprfdokumentation.CompletionofGQAof
firstproductionbatchMG5isscheduledformidNovember2015th
13.WeretheretothefinalreportoftheWTD91forMG5of9December
ber2014(WTDno.91400120/14)ortoanearlierversionofthis
Reporteditorial,linguistic,orothercontentnderungsvor
proposalsfromthebusinessoftheFederalMinistryofDefence?
Ifso,exactly,andwhichonesareinthe"Abstract"andwhat/
beenadoptedorinthe"Summaryofresult"?
Ifnot,whohasthelastsentence,the"Abstract"inthe
December9,2014aspresentedformulated?
TherewerenoamendmentsfromtheMoD.ThesignatoriesoftheAgreement
finalreportandforwritersofshortpaperconcentratesonthecompetentreferences
rentforsmallcaliberweaponsandammunitionattheBundeswehrTechnicalCentre
(WTD)91st
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14.WhataretheunitsoftheBundeswehrinthequestionofthereadiness
TakeoverofMG5therifleas"conditionallysuitable"in2015or
"Unsuitable"classified?
The"totalscorereportoperationaltestingofthemachinegunmeans
MG5"of20October2014,createdbytheOfficeoftheArmyDevelopment
been.Thisreportsummarizestheresultsofthefieldtestwillbewiththe
MG5,StandardVersion,andtheMG5A2versionInfantry,forallTeilstreit
Forcesshowncollectively,andfromtechnicallogistical,andtactical
pointofview,assessedas"limiteduse".
a)Whatspecificdeficienciesorconcerns(pleasespecifywhich)wereeach
expressedinanyform?
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alreadyincludedinthedocumentphasewerepartly(belowA1andA7)
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placedseparatelyorasaresultoffindingsfromoperationaltest
were(A2toA6).
Thefollowingareasofactiontoachievefullfitnesswereidentified:
a1)Exerciseclosureforfiringofblankammunitionrequired
a2)adjustingthehousingcolorrequired,
a3)stormgripdemandedbyarrestingthebipod,
a4)ergonomicallyoptimizedbuttstockrequired
a5)standardizationofpipelengthrecommended
a6)calledCentralsupplyofpipealogisticallevel2and
a7)thefastestpossibleintegrationMG5A1,VersionInstallationweaponinWaffensta
tionFLW100(Fa.KraussMaffeiWegmann/KMW)demanded.
b)howandwithwhatspecifictimetable(pleasespecify)isplanningthe
FMODorthemanufacturer,thedeficienciesorconcernsoff
deliver?
Thisisnottodeficienciesorconcerns,butdemandsthat
alreadyincludedinthedocumentphasewerepartly(belowA1andA7)
placedseparatelyorasaresultoffindingsfromoperationaltest
were(A2toA6).
toa1)
Realizationoftheexerciseclosureismandatediftheconstructive
issetonsstandtheweaponaftersuccessfultypetesting.
Timetable:
Commissioningdetectionpattern:
Realizationbyarmsmanufacturers:
QualificationbyWTD91
Operationaltest
CommissioningProcurement
Typeexamination
Delivery
January2016
untilJune2017
JulyOctober2017
OctoberDecember2017
February2018
MayJuly2018
fromAugust2018
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Toa2)
Thehousingcolorremainsunderconsultationwiththerequiredcarrierinitiallyun
changed.
toa3)
Aconceptforastormhandlethelockingofattachedbipod
allows,iscurrentlybeingtakenbythemanufacturer.
toa4)
Anergonomicallyoptimizedbuttstockwasrealizedbythemanufacturer
andanoperationaltestundergone.Theproducerswere,on25September
About2015thisfurtherchangedemandsfromtheaforementionedEinsatzpr
informedFung,whichareyettobeassessed.
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toa5)
Incoordinationwiththenecessarysupport,thepipelengthsfortheMG5,contractswere
sionstandard,andtheMG5A1,VersionInstallationweaponstandardizeson550mm
light.
toa6)
Therequiredcentralsupplypipeofalogisticallevel2isin
EnsuredcontextofErsatzteilerstbeschaffung.
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toa7)
TheintegrationofMG5A1,VersionInstallationweapon,theweaponstation
FLW100iscommissioned.
c)Whobearsthecostofthemeasures(z.B.Changetheactionisclosed
sesforpracticeammunition,adjustingthebuttstockandotherspleaseall
Costsandcostcarriersbrokendownindividually)?
Thisisnottodeficienciesorconcerns,butdemandsthat
alreadyincludedinthedocumentphasewerepartly(belowA1andA7)
placedseparatelyorasaresultoffindingsfromoperationaltest
were(A2toA6).
InprojectsMG,medium(MG5),arealreadyabudgetofca.
9millioneurosplannedfor
a1)Exerciseclosure
EUR7.3million,
a3)stormgrip
0.7millioneuros,
a4)buttstock
EUR1.0million.
Nobudgetneededfortheshares
a2)color,
a5)Unificationpipelength,
a6)Centralsupplyofthetube.
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InprojectsweaponstationFLW100areabudgetofapproximately
EUR41.2millionscheduledfor
a7)theintegrationMG5A1(adaptationoftheweaponstations).
d)Istheterminationofthedeficienciesnotedpreconditionforordering
and/ordeliveryofotherlotsorannualdiscs?
Ifso,thisiscontractuallyretainedbythemanufacturer,andwhat
Consequencesaresetoutinwritingintheeventthatthedeficienciesarenot
parked?
Thisisnottodeficienciesorconcerns,butdemandsthat
alreadyincludedinthedocumentphasewerepartly(belowA1andA7)
placedseparatelyorasaresultoffindingsfromoperationaltest
were(A2toA6).
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toa1)
Realizationoftheexerciseclosureismandatediftheconstructive
issetonsstandtheweaponaftersuccessfultypetesting.Becausebis
HerigerexperiencesseemsRemovingarealizationriskstandatpresent
closed.Apaymentofthiscontractproportionoccursonlyaftersuccessful
Finaltestingoftheexerciseclosure.
Toa2)
Thehousingcolorremainsunderconsultationwiththerequiredcarrierinitiallyun
changed.
toa3),a4)
Theseadditionalrequirementsoftheprocurementauthoritiesarenotpartoftheloading
creationoftheFrameworkAgreement.Itsimplementationiscurrentlybeingexamined.
toa5)
Thedemandisalreadybeingimplemented.
toa6)
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ThedemandistheBundeswehrinternallyimplementandthushasnoeffect
onthecontractwiththemanufacturer.
toa7)
TheintegrationofMG5A1,VersionInstallationweapon,theweaponstation
FLW100iscommissioned.Successfulqualificationandoperationalauditofthe
MG5A1inconnectionwiththesuccessfulcompletionofIntegrationsma
tookareanecessarypreconditionfortheprocurementofMG5A1.
FortheprocurementofthemachinegunMG5itselfisaprocurement
frameworkagreementconcludedwithnopurchaseobligation.Aretrievalof
WeaponsMG5A1,VersionInstallationweaponfromthiscontracttakesplaceonlywhenthe
IntegrationmeasuresintheweaponstationFLW100successfullycompleted
senare.
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15.Whatwereirregularitiesintheongoingtypetest(see
BetheParliamentaryStateSecretarytotheFederalMinister
Defense,MarkusGrbel,of14August2015)whenexactlyfrom
whomwherefound?
ThetypetestofMG5isunderthesupervisionofcompetentqualityinspectionof
Bundeswehrconducted.
ThetypetestofthefirstproductionbatchMG5thedroptesthasnotbeenpassed
the.ThetechnicalsolutiontothisproblemiscurrentlybeingsquareoftheWTD91
lifigraces.TherepetitionoftherelevantpartsofthetypeexaminationtakesplaceinNo
vemberinstead2015th
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16.HowmanygunsofthetypeG27werepreviouslydescribedbytheBundeswehr
presents,paid,shippedandwhendeliveredtowhichtroops
(pleasespecifyeachwithquantity,dateandversion)?
Therewere157SeriesweaponsG27ordered,paidforandinDecember2010
suppliedasfollows:
108EA(each)ofspecialforcesoftheBundeswehr(SpezKrBw)inthearmy,
49EAtoSpezKrBwintheNavy.
17.Whatstepsarefortherecentlyannouncedprocurementof600GE
defendthetypeG27alreadytakenplace(Decision,ordering,payment,
Delivery,examinationortests)?
Afterapprovedprocurementofmanufacturerwastheresponsiblesupply
ContractingUnitrequestedinBAAINBw,makeanoffer.
18.IsittruethattheG27before,duringorafterloadingtheprocurement
agreedtestingrequirementshadnotbeenmetandthereforenotinthere
gulrenforcewasused?
Ifso,whatrequirementswerenotmetcompletely,whichinparts
lennot(pleasespecifyconcretelyandclearlyindicatingthedateofthefinding
developmentofnoncomplianceandtheagencywhichfoundthenonfulfillment
Has)?
TheG27haspassedallthetests.
19.WhytheG27wasneverthelessacquiredorusedforspecialforces
sets?
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20.Werethedeficienciesorreducedbenefitsnowfrom
Manufacturereliminated(ifso,pleaselistspecificallystatesanyshortcomingsor
Underperformancewereeliminatedasandwheretestswhichunit
describedtheBundeswehr,theactualremovalofdefectsexperimentally
hasconfirmed)?
Referenceismade
totheanswertoquestion18th
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21.Ifsofarnotalldeficiencieshavebeenrectified,whyispurchasingtheFederal
ArmedForcesnow600copiesofagun,whichforthetestrequirements
doesnotmeetthetroops?
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22.WasthereatanytimecomparativetestsofG27/HK417withother
renweapons?
Ifso,withwhatweaponsbywhichproducerswerethosewith
whatresultscarriedout(pleaseindicatethedateofsupply
sametestsaswellasthebodyorthebodieswhichtheyhavecarriedoutor
have)?
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TherethecompanyH&KweaponsSchumacherandSabreDefenceweretotenders
offeredonthesupplyofweaponsrequestedpattern.Thisrequestcamethetwo
firstmentionedbymanufacturers.ThestudyconductedbytheWTD91"selectionand
Testing"isthereforelimitedtotheweaponsmodels
a)
HK417thecompany.H&K(finalreportWTDno.9140003/08from
January14,2008)and
b)
ASG3500Fa.SchumacherWeapons(WTDfinalreportno.
9140022/08of7February2008).
Bothcompanieswereinvitedtosubmittheirweaponswithinthemeaningofthefinalreports
WTDimprove91andsubsequentlytothetechnicaldemandsoftheBundeswehr
tofit.ThisrequestfollowedtheFa.H&K.
23.Accordingtowhatcriteriaweretherespectivecomparativedifferent
testscarriedout?
Accordingtowhichcriteriathetestresultswerefinallyweighted?
Implementationandevaluationcarriedoutinaccordance
"EvaluationproceduresforfutureNATOSmallArmsWeaponSystems"
AC/225(PanelIII)D14inconjunctionwith
.STANAG2895MMS(ED.1)ExtremeClimaticConditionsandDerived
ConditionsforUseinTestCriteriaforNATODecliningDesignedForcesma
materialand
Specificationsprecisionweapon7.62mmx51(partofthecontract)
createdbytheBAAINBwbasedontheprioritizedForderungskata
logesfromthefinalfunctionalrequirement/Realisierungsgeneh
provalfortheprecisionsemiautomatic7.62x51fromJulyof2007.
24.Forwhatreasonsitwasfinallydecided,theG27andnota
Toacquirecompetitor?
Whatcriteria(seequestion24)werethedecisivefactors,whichwereGE
Ringerweighted?
TheHK417wasaqualificationexaminationandsubsequentuseun
subjectedandprocuredforlackofanalternative.Incidentally,theanswertothis,
wordreferstoquestion22nd
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25.DoestheFederalCourtofAuditors,totheknowledgeoftheFederalGovernmentiscurrently
Inspectionsrelatedtosmallarmsandlightweapons(runway
tolen,revolvers,submachineguns,assaultrifles,Scharfschtzenge
defend,etc.)intheBundeswehr(ifso,pleasespecifywithbottom
suchungsgegenstand,periodandcurrentstate)?
AccordingtothedocumentsoftheFederalCourtofAuditorsiscurrentlyconducting
twochecks:
PM039/12:examinationofhandgunsBundeswehrConcept.
ThroughtheMoDhascreatedanopinion.TheFinal
TestingreleaseoftheFederalCourtinaccordancewith36ofitsexamination
orderisstillpending.
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PA103/13:examinationdevelopmentandprocurementofanewmachine
rifle.
Bothtrialsarenotyetcomplete.
26.Whereandinwhatpositionworksinthememorandumofresult
December1,2011referredtounder"personnelmatters"Mr.W.
(BWBK6.2documentannexedtotheletterfromtheSecretaryofState
MarkusGrbelof9June2015progressreportontherifleG36)today?
W.worksasDVuserssupervisorintheDepartmentoftheAirBAAINBw.
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