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Powertakeoffs GB
Powertakeoffs GB
Powertakeoffs GB
P U B L I S H E R
MAN Nutzfahrzeuge AG
ESC Depar tment
Engineering Services
Consultation (formerly TDB)
D a c h a u e r S t r.
D - 80995
667
Munich
E- M a il:
esc@man.eu
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7.
Power take-offs
7.1.
Fundamentals
7.1.1 Calculating power and torque
7.2.
7.3.
7.3.2
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7.
Power take-offs
7.1.
Fundamentals
Power take-offs can be installed at the following points, in some cases at several of them at once:
On the engine
at the front end of the engine
on the front end of the crankshaft, using a twin-groove V-belt pulley
as a pump directly attached to the air compressor
at the rear end of the engine (e.g. camshaft drive, power take-off at the flywheel)
On the gearbox
On the transfer case.
Permissible torques
Direction of rotation
Jolt factors
Operating life
Critical speed of rotation
Maximum length of drive shaft
Angle at drive shaft joints
Reduction ratio
Cooling (avoidance of trapped heat at the power take-off)
Installation and accessibility
Means of attachment (of pump)
Instructions issued by power take-off manufacturer
Instructions issued by pump manufacturer
Instructions issued by drive shaft manufacturer.
Power take-off manufacturers have issued their own publications containing detailed information on
The power take-offs maximum permitted torque can be fully utilised only if operation is entirely free from jolts and vibration.
This is seldom possible, and therefore jolt factors must be taken into consideration when choosing the power take-off.
Table 1 shows the relationship between torque and jolt factor for several typical applications.
The dimensioning of the power take-off must allow for the maximum torque that will be encountered, including the jolt factor.
Power take-offs
Table 1:
Truck mixers
Fire pumps
Centrifugal pumps
High-pressure
scavenging units
Sludge extraction vehicles
High-pressure pumps
Rotary compressors
Tipping pumps
Hydraulic cable winches
Mechanical cable winches
Small refrigerating
compressors
Small hydrostatic drives
300
2
Mmax
Jolt factor =
Mmin
Power take-offs must be protected against overheating; if necessary the manufacturer of the superstructure must install a fan.
Heat must not be trapped; inadequate heat dissipation will cause damage.
Notes on transmission oil temperature:
The transmission and transfer box oil temperature may not exceed 110C during operation. Peak temperatures of max. 130C are still
permissible for a maximum of 30 minutes. If a check reveals that the oil temperature reaches higher values, then some form of external
cooling (e.g. a fan) must be provided.
If parts of the engine enclosure have to be removed in order to install power take-offs, they must be replaced by suitable items provided
by the installing company, to ensure that excessive noise is not emitted. Please note and comply with the instructions in the Engine
modifications section of the Modifying the chassis Chapter (in the booklets relevant to the range).
Power take-offs are not designed to accept radial bearing loads imposed by chains or V-belt drives. For this reason, chain sprockets
or V-belt pulleys are not to be attached directly to the power take-off. Leading drive shaft manufacturers issue documentation on the
anticipated reduction in operating life and higher axial and radial forces at the bearings. This information must be taken into account
when determining the drive rating; a reduction in transmitted power is to be expected.
If the equipment to be driven could overload the power take-off, some form of overload protection must be installed. This also applies if
only occasional peak torques beyond the permitted limit occur. As is customary in mechanical engineering, all directions of rotation are
quoted looking at the shaft journal, that is to say at the output point.
For TG vehicles MAN workshops can parameterise the production standard interface and provide cabling for speed and torque limiters.
Engine speeds < 800/min with the power take-off engaged and under load
Even-numbered drive or reduction ratios such as 1:1, 1:2 etc., since vibration could occur as a result of resonance.
Power take-offs
7.1.1
Before the correct power take-off can be selected, the following details of the equipment it is to drive must be available:
The torque can be calculated using the formulae quoted in chapter 9, Calculations (in the booklets relevant to the range),
where examples are also provided.
7.1.2
For the drive shaft connection, the principles laid down in the Drive shafts section of the Modifying the chassis Chapter (in the
booklets relevant to the range) are to be applied. For the drive shaft joint angles, the following conditions must be complied with:
The stated values apply to both single-plane and three-dimensional drive shaft systems. In the case of three-dimensional drive shaft
systems, the resultant three-dimensional joint angle must be taken into account. Exceptions to the stated values must be expressly
approved by the ESC Department at MAN (For address see Publisher above).
Drive shafts in areas in which people move, stand or work must be covered or shielded.
7.2.
Whether the vehicle is being driven or used to operate power take-offs, the power required from the engine is not normally constant.
The fluctuation in power requirement at a constant speed of rotation has to be equalised by varying the amount of injected fuel.
At a constant speed of rotation, the following therefore applies:
Depending on the vehicles body and its intended purpose, the power take-off and therefore the engine are required to run either at
a minimum, a constant or a maximum speed. In most cases more than one of these requirements has to be fulfilled.
For engines with EDC (Electronic Diesel Control), the body manufacturer will modify the ZDR (Intermediate Speed Control) interface.
The set speeds are maintained at a constant level even when the load varies; the accuracy of this system is always greater than that
of a mechanical system
7.2.1
MAN trucks and tractor units are fitted with a cruise control lever to regulate the vehicles speed. At speeds 20km/h this allows
the engine speed to be regulated even without intervention in the ZDR interface. The memory button (2nd on the left) allows a constant
speed to be set, with the + and buttons a working speed can be set that is between an upper and lower limit and this remains
constant until the off button in pressed (2nd on the right) or another switch-off condition (e.g. operating the brakes) occurs.
Power take-offs
The speed value can be permanently saved by pressing the memory button (depress the 2nd button on the left for 2 seconds) so that,
even after the engine has been turned off and/or the vehicle has been driven a short distance, it can be called-up again by briefly
pressing the memory button (2nd on the left).
Fig. 1:
7.2.2
The EDC control unit can be programmed to obtain suitable engine speed settings when power take-offs are to be used.
The following can be set:
The body-mounted equipment control system intervenes (e.g. by a switching signal to run up to a predetermined intermediate speed)
and its operating status is recorded (e.g. parking brake, gearbox in neutral, power take-off switch setting) by way of the ZDR interface.
In order to use these options the following data are required: .
ZDR interface (for the 2000 ranges L2000, M2000 and F/E2000)
Interface for intermediate speed control at the vehicle management computer ZDR at FFR
(series standard for all vehicles in the TG ranges)
KSM - Customer-specific control module (optional) (series standard for all vehicles in the TG ranges).
A detailed description of the FFR and KSM interfaces with examples of use and current documentation on the hard and software
can be found in the TG Interfaces booklet.
Power take-offs
Industry-specific parameters can already be programmed at the factory if the desired values are provided in good time to the MAN
salesperson by the body manufacturer. Amendments can be made at a later date using the MAN-cats diagnosis system.
There is a charge for this service.
7.2.3
Certain body-side equipment requires that the vehicles engine can be started or stopped from outside the cab.
MAN offers a preparation for engine start and stop device at the end of the frame regardless of how the intermediate engine speeds
are controlled (see above).
The following always applies when this package is fitted:
Gearbox neutral selection switch, so that the engine can be started only if neutral has been selected
Parking brake signal recognition, so that the engine can be started only if the parking brake has been applied
Start inhibit relay; if the engine is already running it cannot be started again.
Retrofitting the interface is possible but requires detailed knowledge of electrics/electronics and the MAN on-board network.
We therefore advise ordering it from the factory.
The start/stop device is connected as shown in Fig. 2 (2000 range) or as in the interface description in the TG interfaces booklet
(TG range). The connecting cable is rolled up at the end of the chassis.
If the vehicle must not be moved during power take-off operation, we additionally advise the fitting of a gear shift inhibitor
(see the next section).
Connection to the preparation for start/stop device ESC-163
50303
Fig. 2:
S202
A
S203
A
STOPP
7.2.4
43301/43300
50300
START
On certain vehicles/types of body it is necessary to ensure that the power take-off can be engaged only if the vehicle is not in gear.
By inhibiting the gear shift, the opposite effect is also achieved, namely that a gear cannot be selected if the power take-off is already
operating. The MAN gear shift inhibitor has the effect of an exclusive OR switch, i.e. either a gear or the power take-off can
be selected but not both at the same time.
We advise the fitting of a gear shift inhibitor if engine speed regulation and/or an engine start outside the cab are to be provided and
the vehicle cannot or must not be moved.
Power take-offs
7.3.
7.3.1
Power take-offs
Output point at front of two-cylinder air compressor on D28 Euro 3 engine ESC-164
Fig. 4:
Examples of hydraulic pumps at front of two-cylinder air compressor on D28 Euro 3 engine ESC-165
Fig. 3
Fig. 4
51.06650.7003
Output at the
two-cylinder
air compressor
Pump for
hydraulic
power steering
(required by
MAN)
Alternator
Refrigerant
compressor
for cab air
conditioning
Pump for
hydraulic
power steering
(required by
MAN)
Power take-offs
For this power take-off it is essential that the engine is equipped with a two-cylinder air compressor; compared to output via V-belt it
has the following advantages:
Cab air-conditioning and power take-off on the engine for mechanical components on the body are both possible at the same time.
Direct engine-dependent drive from the air compressor; V-belt drive with rating selected by the body manufacturer is not needed.
MAN can fit various hydraulic pumps, for example those stated in Table 2, ex-factory to the front end of the air compressor. Information
on the sales programme can be obtained from the national subsidiary; drawings are available from ESC department.
(For address see Publisher above).
Table 2:
Technical data: Hydraulic pumps for mounting on two-cylinder air compressor, transmission and end of crankshaft
Engine type
Speed factor
Hydraulic pump
Pressure during
continuous operation
in bar
D08
1,175
Hydraulic pump
19
190
16
230
14 + 5,5
200
16 + 8
250
D28
D20
1,15
Hydraulic pump
32
210
25 + 11
210
1,194
Hydropumpe
32
250
22,5
230
11
280
22,5 + 32
230
11 + 22,5
230
Direction of rotation as for the engine, counter-clockwise looking in the direction of travel
Engine speed 800 rpm with load on camshaft output
Maximum nominal torque 600Nm for continuous operation
Maximum peak torque 720Nm for short-term operation (defined as 1% of the full operating period).
With output in a radial direction (e.g. V-belt, chain) the following also apply:
Power take-offs
Fig. 5:
0
39 -0,2
204.6
To the crankshaft
centreline = 329,5
0,5 (seal)
Flywheel housing
Crankcase
Crankshaft
centreline
15
95.6
Power take-off data for power take-off at the flywheel with the D20 and D26 engines:
Flange 100 6-hole 8mm
Speed = 1,233 x engine speed
Direction of rotation as for the engine, counter-clockwise looking in the direction of travel
Engine speed 800 rpm with load on camshaft output
Maximum nominal torque 650Nm for continuous operation
Maximum peak torque 720Nm for short-term operation (defined as 1% of the full operating period).
With output in a radial direction (e.g. V-belt, chain) the following also apply:
Permitted bending moment Mbzul 250Nm
Permitted radial force FR 2.500N.
Fig. 6:
Section A-A
Flywheel housing
60
A
Crankcase
201.2
178.2
78.7
A
+0.15
8.1 (6x)
84 0.1
Crankshaft
centreline
Power take-offs
Power take-off data for power take-off at the flywheel with the 6 cylinder D08 engine:
Flange 100 6-hole 8mm
Speed = 1,195 x engine speed
Fig. 7:
Direction of rotation as for the engine, counter-clockwise looking in the direction of travel
Maximum nominal torque 350Nm for continuous operation.
Maximum peak torque 720Nm for short-term operation (defined as 1% of the full operating period).
Power take-off data for power take-off at the flywheel with the 6 cylinder D08 ESC-830
Crankshaft
centreline
57h8
0.1
84
0.15
Power take-off
8.1
276.9
(6x)
87.4
Flange for
transmission
(rear edge of ywheel housing)
Direction of rotation as for the engine, counter-clockwise looking in the direction of travel
Maximum nominal torque 350Nm for continuous operation.
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The maximum permitted drive shaft deflection angle of 7 (see also the section Drive shaft connection to power take-off) and
the need to avoid peak loads and vibration should be particularly noted.
Resilient double-flange coupling 81.38500.6035 is available as an option. This is mandatory for equipment with a high jolt factor
Mmax / Mmin 2 (see also Table 1), and is recommended for all other bodies to avoid noise and resonance and to ensure overload
protection. The double-flange coupling is fitted between the power take-off and the equipment to be driven (equipment-side).
The power take-off rotates only when a gear has been selected.
The direction of power take-off rotation depends on which gear has been selected:
forward gear
=
counter-clockwise rotation
reverse gear
=
clockwise rotation (in both cases looking in the direction of travel).
Table 3:
Transfer case
Range
Transfer case
installation drawing
Ratio
On-road
Ratio
Off-road
Permissible torqueat
power take-off [Nm]
G1000-2
L2000,
M2000L/M
81.37000.8132
1,061
1,607
8000
G1700-2
G173
F2000, E2000
/ TGA
81.37000.8118
81.37000.8170
1,007
1,652
G2500-2
G253
F2000, E2000
/ TGA
81.37000.8124
81.37000.8170
0,981
1,583
Flange
[mm]
155
4 hole
M12x1, 5x45
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Fig. 8:
Druckluftanschluss IV
M12x1.5/16 tief
NA
AN
Steering pump
Power take-off
HA
VA
Speedometer
drive connection
(Renk)
Gearbox-dependent
Distance-dependent
Transfer-case dependent.
1. Gearbox-dependent operation:
If the power take-off on the transfer case is to be used with the vehicle stationary, the transfer case must be set to neutral.
The required power take-off drive ratio with the vehicle stationary is obtained by selecting any gear at the main gearbox.
The power take-off ratio with the vehicle stationary is thus equivalent to the corresponding main gearbox ratio.
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2. Distance-dependent operation:
Installed equipment that is required to perform a given number of rotations for a given road distance must be driven by a
distance-dependent power take-off. Since the transfer case output is governed by both the on-road and off-road ratio groups,
two different ratios can be selected for distance-dependent operation. Distance-dependent operation of the power take-off ratio
depends on:
As a parameter for the ratio the number of power take-off revolutions per metre of distance covered can be quoted, or alternatively
the reciprocal value, that is to say the distance covered in metres per revolution of the power take-off. In the distance-dependent mode,
the main gearbox ratio or the engine speed are not the fundamental factors governing the power take-off ratio.
3. Transfer case-dependent operation:
Transfer case-dependent operation takes place in a similar manner to distance-dependent operation. The difference lies in the fact that
either the on-road or the off-road group can be selected when the transfer case is engaged, so that two different power take-off ratios
are possible.
Please refer to Chapter 9, Calculations, in the booklets relevant to the range for an example of how to calculate the ratio of
the transfer-case power take-off.
7.3.2
7.3.2.1 Differentiation
Power take-offs can be distinguished according to the following factors:
Table 4:
Operating period
Power take-offs and operating periods
Operating period
Short-period operation < 60min
Continuous operation
60min
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Table 5:
Power take-offs relationship between operating period and power flow with relevant power take-off designation
Engine-dependent
ZF
Clutch-dependent
ZF
Short-period operation
< 60min
EATON
N../4b, c
N36/5b, c
NM AS/10b, c
Continuous operation
60min
NMV
N../1b, c
N../10b, c
NM AS/10b, c with fan or cooling set
81Z2
2266
290x (+500x)
Fig. 9:
Engine
Clutch
Gearbox
PTO output
Engagement:
The power take-off is engaged pneumatically via a switching valve and a pneumatic cylinder, located inside the PTO housing,
that is pressurised on one side.
Operation:
It is possible to operate the power take-off with the vehicle both at a standstill and when it is in motion.
Turning the power take-off on and off must be done with the vehicle stationary.
If clutch-dependent power take-offs are operated whilst the vehicle is in motion then there may be no gearchanges.
The following safety notes must be observed:
The power take-off may only be turned on or off with the clutch disengaged.
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Disengaging must take place with the engine running at idle speed.
Only turn the power take-off on when the countershaft is stationary.
Ratcheting will occur if the power take-off is turned on with the countershaft rotating
Coast-down times are different depending upon the operating conditions and may be shortened by brief synchronisation, preferably with
1st gear. Caution: When the vehicle is at rest the pressure in the system slowly drops. This will cause the jaw clutch coupling located
above the pressure spring on the shift cylinder to disengage. As soon as the air pressure in the system increases once more
(when the engine is switched on) this will engage again automatically. When the engine is running this will cause damage to
the gearchange toothing leading to premature failure of the power take-off. For this reason therefore, if the vehicle is to be parked for
any length of time (e.g. over night) the power take-off must be turned off.
Power take-off designations:
The last letter in the power take-off designation, that is to say the letter b or c, indicates the type of output.
A distinction is made between:
Version "b"
Basic version for shaft drive. Flange in accordance with DIN ISO 7646.
Version "c"
The simplest and most commonly used type, for direct mounting of a pump. Before installing the pump, the selector sleeve or output
gear are placed on the pump drive shaft. The pump connection is in accordance with ISO 7653 or BNA NF, R17-102
(e.g. Meiller axial-piston pump).
Version c may possibly be derived from version b.
Version c can, depending on the type of power take-off, be changed into version b.
Fig. 10:
If pumps are mounted directly (version c), the body building firm must ensure that the maximum permissible mass moment of
a direct-mounted pump with add-on elements (e.g. hoses) is not exceeded:
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Table 6:
Fig. 11:
EATON
30 Nm
2266
290x
50 Nm
NH/ 1c, NH/ 4c, N221/ 10c, NAS/ 10c, NMAS/ 10c
81Z2
a [m]
FG [N]
Formula 1:
a FG
Where:
MG
a
FG
=
=
=
Maximum mass moment with directly mounted pump from Table 6, in [Nm]
Distance of pumps centre of gravity from pump flange face, in [m]
Weight of pump including all fittings attached to it, in [N]
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Fig 12:
PTO
Engine
Gearbox
Clutch
The NMV can be operated when the vehicle is stationary and when it is in motion.
The NMV is ready for operation as soon as the engine is running.
The transmission of force to the power take-off is fully independent of the vehicles clutch.
There are two basic types: NMV130E on ZF Ecomid transmissions 16S109 (M2000L/M) and NMV221 on the ZF Ecosplit transmissions
16S. Both of these can be supplied with two different ratios:
Speed factor f
Speed factor f
=
=
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Fig. 13:
ZF NMV power take-off Influence of total moment of inertia on the resonant speed ESC-216_3
1600
N = 0,98 x Nmot
1400
1200
1000
800
600
400
Resonant speed
200
0.2
0.4
0.6
0.8
1.0
1.2
1.4
1.6
1.8
1.6
1.8
N = 1,55 x Nmot
1400
1200
1000
800
600
400
Resonant speed
200
0.2
0.4
0.6
0.8
1.0
1.2
1.4
2
Decoupling limit
Power take-offs
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Fig. 14:
ZF NMV power take-offs graph of engagement speed against mass moment of inertia at the output flange ESC-167
NMV 130E
Max. permissible breaking energy approx.
28,000Nm
NMV 221
Max. permissible breaking energy approx.
60,000Nm
1600
1600
1800
max. 1800
1400
nAb = 1,03
1200
1000
800
nAb = 1,45
600
0
2
4
6
Mass moment of inertia
at the output ange
10 max
J [kg m2]
1400
nAb = 0,98
1200
1000
800
nAb = 1,55
600
0
2
4
6
Mass moment of inertia
at the output ange
10
12
14
J [kg m2]
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7.3.2.8 Power take-offs for EATON transmissions (Technical data and tables)
See PDF na_eaton_tab_gb.pdf
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