Carving - Moth in Mixed Alloys

You might also like

Download as pdf or txt
Download as pdf or txt
You are on page 1of 17

The Carving Path -> Moth in mixed alloys

The Carving Path

HelpSearchMembersCalendarLive Chat

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

The Carving Path > The Carving Path > Tutorials


2 Pages 1 2 >

Moth in mixed alloys, construction sequence

Outline [ Standard ] Linear


+
Track this topic | Email this topic | Print this topic

Jim Kelso

Aug 20 2005, 07:33


PM

Post #1

Some time ago I said I would do a sequence on the paperweight moth. Here it is. I prefer to have
questions asked as I go along as it seems less awkward than having to go back, but if you come in late
and have a question, that's fine too. I mainly want to get the info out, not to make it easier for me.
Here's the whole paper weight and a close up. Wood is Vera.
Administrator

Attached image(s)

Group: Admin
Posts: 292
Joined: 12-January 05
From: Vermont
Member No.: 4

-------------------looking toward the Far Green Country


My Webpage

Jim Kelso

Aug 20 2005, 07:35


PM

http://www.thecarvingpath.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=257&st=0 (1 of 13)8/25/2005 5:23:04 AM

Post #2

The Carving Path -> Moth in mixed alloys

And a closer shot of the moth. Metals are shakudo, copper and 22k gold.
Attached image(s)

Administrator
Group: Admin
Posts: 292
Joined: 12-January 05
From: Vermont
Member No.: 4

-------------------looking toward the Far Green Country


My Webpage

Jim Kelso

Aug 20 2005, 08:00


PM

Post #3

The shakudo is from Phil Baldwin, Shining Wave Metals


The long dimension is 2.75"(70mm). Thickness is .09"(2.3mm)
This photo shows the main lines engraved and the beginning of the wing carving with a flat wheel burr.
Administrator

Attached image(s)

Group: Admin
Posts: 292
Joined: 12-January 05
From: Vermont
Member No.: 4

-------------------looking toward the Far Green Country

http://www.thecarvingpath.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=257&st=0 (2 of 13)8/25/2005 5:23:04 AM

The Carving Path -> Moth in mixed alloys

My Webpage

Jim Kelso

Aug 20 2005, 08:04


PM

Post #4

Here I'm carving the wing contours with a large carbide burr. I hold the piece with a jeweler's ring clamp
while I'm carving.
Attached image(s)

Administrator
Group: Admin
Posts: 292
Joined: 12-January 05
From: Vermont
Member No.: 4

-------------------looking toward the Far Green Country


My Webpage

Jim Kelso

Aug 20 2005, 08:08


PM

Post #5

Here you see the finished contours and the pattern for the head in frosted mylar with the gold sheet
stock. After roughing the contours with burrs I smoothed them with files, rubberized abrasives and fiber
wheels. The blotches are just oxidation.
Attached image(s)

Administrator
Group: Admin
Posts: 292
Joined: 12-January 05
From: Vermont
Member No.: 4

http://www.thecarvingpath.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=257&st=0 (3 of 13)8/25/2005 5:23:04 AM

The Carving Path -> Moth in mixed alloys

-------------------looking toward the Far Green Country


My Webpage

Mossagate

Newbie

Aug 21 2005, 04:58


AM

Post #6

QUOTE(Jim Kelso @ Aug 21 2005, 05:33 AM)

Some time ago I said I would do a sequence on the paperweight moth. Here it is. I prefer to have
Group: Members
Posts: 8
Joined: 15-July 05
Member No.: 128

questions asked as I go along as it seems less awkward than having to go back, but if you come in late
and have a question, that's fine too. I mainly want to get the info out, not to make it easier for me.
Here's the whole paper weight and a close up. Wood is Vera.

Hi Jim
That is a beuty.
From an earlier post you mentioned that the Vera doesn't take to glue due to its oils, how have you
attched the beastie to the base and is the base also sand blasted?
Cheers
Mike

DFogg

Aug 21 2005, 10:54


AM

http://www.thecarvingpath.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=257&st=0 (4 of 13)8/25/2005 5:23:04 AM

Post #7

The Carving Path -> Moth in mixed alloys

Monster burr and a surprise. I would think that it would chatter and be difficult to control. What speed and
what grinder do you use it in? I am really happy to see the tutorial Jim, thanks.

Administrator
Group: Admin
Posts: 194
Joined: 11-January 05
From: Alabama, USA
Member No.: 1

Jim Kelso

-------------------Don Fogg
Don Fogg Bladesmith
The tool works on both ends.

Aug 21 2005, 01:59


PM

Post #8

Mike there are pins that are under the gold triangles on the wings. You'll see this clearly later. The pins go
into cavities in the wood. The cavities are seriously undercut so that epoxy filling them forms a plug,
holding the pins. The pins are also roughed up to give more adhesion. The base is sand blasted with no
finish.
Administrator
Group: Admin
Posts: 292
Joined: 12-January 05
From: Vermont
Member No.: 4

Don, I guess that burr is a little big, but I think it makes it easier to not create divots and flat spots.
Chatter control is a matter of trial and error to find the sweet spot of rpm. Those big burrs are a real time
saver and then I can spend whatever time I need to smooth and contour with the other tools. For those
burrs I use the biggest Foredom handpiece(#30? I think) and pretty low rpm, I would guess around 5K.
Part of this method involves having a solid holding device that helps prevent grabbing and also having the
direction of the burr pulling away from the holder and not into it. This helps prevent grabbing too. I'll try
to get a photo of this. The holder also keeps your fingers at a distance and away from heat build-up.
-------------------looking toward the Far Green Country
My Webpage

Jim Kelso

Aug 21 2005, 02:24


PM

Post #9

Here's a shot showing the jeweler's ring-clamp holding a piece of copper in a typical scenario. You'll notice
that holding it like this the chips are flying right at you so you need to do it behind a shield and also wear
glasses. Holding like this gives the maximum control. I use both of my thumbs against the clamp and/or
each other for support. You can see the clamp has taken a fair bit of grief over time. It has leather
padded jaws.
Administrator

Attached image(s)

Group: Admin
Posts: 292
Joined: 12-January 05
From: Vermont
Member No.: 4

http://www.thecarvingpath.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=257&st=0 (5 of 13)8/25/2005 5:23:04 AM

The Carving Path -> Moth in mixed alloys

-------------------looking toward the Far Green Country


My Webpage

Jim Kelso

Aug 21 2005, 02:31


PM

Post #10

Here's a shot of the ring-clamp, a very simple but effective holding device. One end is rounded and the
other square. The wedge makes it very fast to get work in and out.
Attached image(s)

Administrator
Group: Admin
Posts: 292
Joined: 12-January 05
From: Vermont
Member No.: 4

-------------------http://www.thecarvingpath.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=257&st=0 (6 of 13)8/25/2005 5:23:04 AM

The Carving Path -> Moth in mixed alloys

looking toward the Far Green Country


My Webpage

ERB

Aug 21 2005, 02:48


PM

Post #11

Hi Jim,
Great tutorial. You give us information as well as inspiration. Thank you. Have you ever tried a product
called "Jet Sett"? I bought some about six months ago but haven't had a chance to try it out.
Advanced Member

Dick

Group: Members
Posts: 90
Joined: 19-January 05
Member No.: 15

Jim Kelso

Aug 23 2005, 12:01


AM

Post #12

Hi Dick. I haven't seen that. Maybe you could try it and give us a run-down under the thread "how do you
hold your carving" in Tools and Technical.
Moving along on the moth, the next step was to introduce the spots, which are rather like soldered bulls'
eye sections of varying alloys. You can see in the photo how I left "handles" on the bits as I sawed and
Administrator
Group: Admin
Posts: 292
Joined: 12-January 05
From: Vermont
Member No.: 4

filed them until I was ready for the final fit. These handles made the sawing and filing a lot easier. Also
shown here is the gold sheet that has been rough forged to shape for the head and antennae.
Attached image(s)

-------------------looking toward the Far Green Country


My Webpage

Jim Kelso

Aug 23 2005, 12:05


AM

http://www.thecarvingpath.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=257&st=0 (7 of 13)8/25/2005 5:23:04 AM

Post #13

The Carving Path -> Moth in mixed alloys

This shows one of the larger spots almost all sawn and fitted looking like a funny bird head with the
"handles still attached. I wasn't ultra concerned about getting the tightest fit as I planned to forge the
gaps shut after the soldering.
Attached image(s)

Administrator
Group: Admin
Posts: 292
Joined: 12-January 05
From: Vermont
Member No.: 4

-------------------looking toward the Far Green Country


My Webpage

Jim Kelso

Aug 23 2005, 12:08


AM

Here's the inlay in place pre-solder. The alloys are copper, gold, shakudo moving from out to in.
Attached image(s)

Administrator
Group: Admin
Posts: 292
Joined: 12-January 05
From: Vermont
Member No.: 4

http://www.thecarvingpath.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=257&st=0 (8 of 13)8/25/2005 5:23:04 AM

Post #14

The Carving Path -> Moth in mixed alloys

-------------------looking toward the Far Green Country


My Webpage

Jim Kelso

Aug 23 2005, 12:36


AM

Showing the back post solder. I needed more than one heat to get the solder where I wanted it.
I used an "easy" or "medium" plumb solder, not sure.
Attached image(s)

Administrator
Group: Admin
Posts: 292
Joined: 12-January 05
From: Vermont
Member No.: 4

-------------------looking toward the Far Green Country

http://www.thecarvingpath.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=257&st=0 (9 of 13)8/25/2005 5:23:04 AM

Post #15

The Carving Path -> Moth in mixed alloys

My Webpage

Jim Kelso

Aug 23 2005, 12:40


AM

Post #16

Beginning the carving of the flutes after finishing everything level. I used my usual burr, rubber abrasive,
fiber wheel progression.
Attached image(s)

Administrator
Group: Admin
Posts: 292
Joined: 12-January 05
From: Vermont
Member No.: 4

-------------------looking toward the Far Green Country


My Webpage

Jim Kelso

Yesterday, 11:48
PM

Post #17

This shot shows the tightening up of the joints between the different alloys. First I engraved out any gold
solder and then chased the gaps closed with rounded punches. The spot in the upper right is pretty much
tightened up and the one on the lower right has much to do.
Attached image(s)

Administrator
Group: Admin
Posts: 292
Joined: 12-January 05
From: Vermont
Member No.: 4

http://www.thecarvingpath.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=257&st=0 (10 of 13)8/25/2005 5:23:04 AM

The Carving Path -> Moth in mixed alloys

-------------------looking toward the Far Green Country


My Webpage

Jim Kelso

Yesterday, 11:54
PM

Post #18

This shows the beginning of the engraving of the "hairy" wing parts. Not sure what these are correctly
called. Any moth experts out there? As the engraving progresses, I use a fine abrasive(400 alum. oxide)
sandblasting to cut the shine and give everything a flat finish. I find this a great aid to seeing th actual
form of everything.
Administrator

Attached image(s)

Group: Admin
Posts: 292
Joined: 12-January 05
From: Vermont
Member No.: 4

-------------------looking toward the Far Green Country


My Webpage

Jim Kelso

Yesterday, 11:59
PM

http://www.thecarvingpath.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=257&st=0 (11 of 13)8/25/2005 5:23:04 AM

Post #19

The Carving Path -> Moth in mixed alloys

These inset gold triangles are functional as well as decorative. The pins go through the wings and hold the
moth on the box along with the pin under the head.
Attached image(s)

Administrator
Group: Admin
Posts: 292
Joined: 12-January 05
From: Vermont
Member No.: 4

-------------------looking toward the Far Green Country


My Webpage

Jim Kelso

Today, 12:02
AM

Post #20

Chasing the texture on the wings. I also used this tool to close up the last little gaps remaining between
the spot alloys.
Attached image(s)

Administrator
Group: Admin
Posts: 292
Joined: 12-January 05
From: Vermont
Member No.: 4

http://www.thecarvingpath.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=257&st=0 (12 of 13)8/25/2005 5:23:04 AM

The Carving Path -> Moth in mixed alloys

-------------------looking toward the Far Green Country


My Webpage

Enter Keywords

Next Oldest Tutorials Next Newest

Search Topic

2 Pages 1 2 >
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

|-- Tutorials
Lo-Fi Version

Invision Power Board v2.0.3 2005 IPS, Inc.

http://www.thecarvingpath.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=257&st=0 (13 of 13)8/25/2005 5:23:04 AM

Go

Time is now: 25th August 2005 - 10:22 AM

The Carving Path -> Moth in mixed alloys

The Carving Path

HelpSearchMembersCalendarLive Chat

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

The Carving Path > The Carving Path > Tutorials


2 Pages < 1 2

Moth in mixed alloys, construction sequence

Outline [ Standard ] Linear


+
Track this topic | Email this topic | Print this topic

Jim Kelso

Today, 12:07
AM

Post #21

After the texturing I engraved some accent/shading lines just to give a little more visual interest. I drew them on first with a photo
marking pen and then made a series of parallel lines. You can see them better in the photos of the finished moth above.
Also showing the head engraving progressing.
Attached image(s)

Administrator
Group: Admin
Posts: 292
Joined: 12-January 05
From: Vermont
Member No.: 4

http://www.thecarvingpath.com/forum/index.php?s=a54b4ba75b7cbd8c3b4727c16e01e56d&showtopic=257&st=20 (1 of 4)8/25/2005 5:25:03 AM

The Carving Path -> Moth in mixed alloys

-------------------looking toward the Far Green Country


My Webpage

Jim Kelso

Today, 12:23
AM

Post #22

The final polish is achieved with a Japanese horse-hair brush(migaki-bake) and 800 grit silicon carbide powder in water. Traditionally
this would be done with charcoal powder, but the s/c powder does a more than credible job. All hail Ford Hallam for introducing this
adjusted technique to the western barbarians!
Attached image(s)

Administrator
Group: Admin
Posts: 292
Joined: 12-January 05
From: Vermont
Member No.: 4

http://www.thecarvingpath.com/forum/index.php?s=a54b4ba75b7cbd8c3b4727c16e01e56d&showtopic=257&st=20 (2 of 4)8/25/2005 5:25:03 AM

The Carving Path -> Moth in mixed alloys

-------------------looking toward the Far Green Country


My Webpage

Jim Kelso

Today, 12:32
AM

Post #23

The last step is the alloy coloration. This is a subject calling for it's own full tutorial(Ford?)
Basically the piece is boiled in a solution of rokusho(proprietary Japanese compound), copper sulphate and water. Shown below is a
feather brooch during the bath.
Attached image(s)

Administrator
Group: Admin
Posts: 292
Joined: 12-January 05
From: Vermont
Member No.: 4

http://www.thecarvingpath.com/forum/index.php?s=a54b4ba75b7cbd8c3b4727c16e01e56d&showtopic=257&st=20 (3 of 4)8/25/2005 5:25:03 AM

The Carving Path -> Moth in mixed alloys

-------------------looking toward the Far Green Country


My Webpage

ford hallam

Today, 08:49
AM

Post #24

Morning Jim,
Thanks for the kudos, bit concerned about the amount of droop on your bristles though
Advanced Member
Group: Members
Posts: 147
Joined: 11-June 05
From: Wiltshire, England
Member No.: 117

I might have a series of interesting tutorials to post at the end of September, and the photography will be much better than mine!
We`ll keep you all in suspense until then.
That pearl blasted finish really does make it easy to see the metal clearly, does`nt it? Thanks for the sequence of images showing your
working method, I know it really helps to educate the non-metalbashers out there.
cheers, Ford
-------------------"What is concealed, is the flower. what is not concealed, cannot be the flower. To know this distinction is the flower, and among all flowers this flower is the most
important" Zeami Motokiyo, 1363-1443,

Enter Keywords

Next Oldest Tutorials Next Newest

Search Topic

2 Pages < 1 2
2 User(s) are reading this topic (2 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

|-- Tutorials
Lo-Fi Version

Invision Power Board v2.0.3 2005 IPS, Inc.

http://www.thecarvingpath.com/forum/index.php?s=a54b4ba75b7cbd8c3b4727c16e01e56d&showtopic=257&st=20 (4 of 4)8/25/2005 5:25:03 AM

Go

Time is now: 25th August 2005 - 10:24 AM

You might also like