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Santiago Sierra: Teresa Margolles
Santiago Sierra: Teresa Margolles
Teresa Margolles
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is neoliberalism?
ss I think that happiness is not possible and
unhappiness is.The rich man is in a state of
tremendous slavery to money. His level of
suffering is very much reduced, but it's
slavery like any other form of it.
tm I remember when I was in Barcelona
helping you install your show, and I bought
chemically altered Ecstasy from a dealer in
the Plaza Mayor that nearly killed me.
Afterward, I went to help you at the unemployment place where you were hiring
people for your next show, and there was the
boy who had sold me the drug. I told him
what he had done to me, and he said,
"Forgive me," and he thought I was going to
demand my money back, but no one does
that around here. Later we went back to the
plaza where he deals and I sat him down and
explained that I am an artist, and I showed
him my work. He started to get scared and
said, "What are you going to do to me?" I
told him I needed someone to shoot the
video and take the pictures for my next
show, which was in Cerda: I was going to
smear body fat from a corpse on the floor of
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Installation view, Mexico City An Exhibitionfabout the Exchanige Rate of Bodies and
the gallery. Normally I do the documentation myself, but in this piece I'm busy
smearing the stuff. When we got there and I
started to smear it, it was like a caress. I was
mad at the dealer, and I was still feeling bad.
but when I started smearing the fat I wasn't
angry anymore. Later I figured out the piece:
My misery is your misery. That's what it was
all about. We don't level ourselves through
purifying ourselves but rather through
sharing our misery.
ss Negativity is the only coherent reaction
one can have in a society where the battle's
already lost. I re-create those battles, which is
sometimes more dangerous than poetic. I've
been focusing on how a worker sells his body,
and I also look at what happens when he's not
working-where he's going to stop all that
negativity. I think that negativity is an expression of how the class struggle takes us in a
determined direction and how the art world
functions, and the real world as well. I think
that iswhat's behind Pollock's drips and what's
behind a person who's inside atrash cah.
tm In one of your most lyrical pieces, you
walked around Dublin raising the windshield
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