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"Which Way Lies Hope?" Opening A Dialogue With Richard Gregg. A Gandhian Retrospective On The Nationhood of India.
"Which Way Lies Hope?" Opening A Dialogue With Richard Gregg. A Gandhian Retrospective On The Nationhood of India.
, 2016
A Critical Introduction
If we want a better world, we must be
prepared to do some careful thinking. It is time we
stopped being sketchy on a matter which really
touches us all so closely. For in reality this matter
of handling conflict constructively is of immediate
interest to everyone who has ever been angry or
afraid, resentful, revengeful or bitter; who has
ever taken part in a fight, mob-violence or war;
or who has been the object of anger, hatred,
exploitation or oppression. It touches all who are
troubled lest the great economic, political and
social questions which are pressing upon all
nations will issue in appalling violence and
increased insecurity for everyone. It is also
important to those who hope that somehow the
ideals and conduct of mankind can be
harmonized, and ideals be made practical.
Richard B. Gregg, Preface,
The Power of Nonviolence
All social theory must be held tentatively
and experimentally.
Richard B. Gregg,
Which Way Lies Hope?
A Race to the Futureor, the path
of Dialogue?
We live in a time when the future is
our greatest concern. This future comes
toward us in two very
Hal Niedzwiecki, Trees on Mars. Our Obsession with the Future, Seven Stories Press, Ny, 2015: Consider what
these now de facto statements regarding the race to the future take as a given. First, theres the notion that
tomorrow is now almost entirely under human control. As such, the future is no longer a collective, allencompassing unknowable that governs the fate of all creatures on Earth; instead its a looming time to come
that we can moderate more or less at will. Furthermore, we have somehow come to agree that this shapeable,
attainable future is something we have to compete with each other to own (loc 48).
6 Paul Schwartzentruber
religious and philosophical traditions have
believed that knowing ourselves begins
by looking back to the past, by beginning
a dialogue with its traditions and by
setting our course from it toward the
future.
This reflection takes up both of
these important tasks which have fallen
by the wayside in our race to the future:
it takes up the dialogue with the past and
takes up the dialogue of common and
mutual self- reflection. Both of these
dialogues together will give us an
orienting vision of the whole that is our
present and then allow us to turn toward
the future with some clear and real hope
to
shape
human
destiny.
More
importantly they will remind us again
what the human future is in reality. The
future is our still undetermined destiny as
human beings. In that sense, it is not a
what that we can manufacture or
discover rather it is a way that we can
chose to find and walk upon. The real
question then is which way forward lies hope?
Richard B. Greggs Which Way
lies Hope? in Context
early
Biographical info is drawn from the Bio and Chronology pages of the site Richardgregg.org published by
John Wooding as well as from Greggs essay, My Memories of Gandhi (c. 1948).
Second,
Greggs
analysis
is
constructive and wholistic in several
ways. Not only does it want to propose an
alternative model for social-political hope,
(a nonviolent one rooted in the
Gandhian programme), it also wants to
expand the framework of the tradition
political thought to include a whole range
of social, moral and spiritual factors.
These factors are not arbitrary but
correspond to his deep reflection on
human nature, society and cosmology as
well as to the detailed threats to human
social life in modern industrial society. We
shall see in a moment that Gregg frames
his examination of these systems by a
detailed explanation of the global
situation of the modern world and its
great dangers (he identifies seven such
dangers). He then uses this as a
yardstick
to give perspective (5). And this is
a new perspective, indeed, for it
reconnects political discourse to a basic
and wholistic reflection on human needs
and goods. By reframing the political
debate in this way, Gregg takes the
criteria for judging the value of a system
out of the hands of the political
propagandists and opens them to a
On this see, Walter G. Mignolo, The Idea of Latin America, The logic of coloniality can be understood as
working through four wide domains of human experience: (1) the economic: appropriation of land, exploitation
of labor, and control of finance; (2) the political: control of authority; (3) the civic: control of gender and
sexuality; (4) the epistemic and the subjective/personal: control of knowledge and subjectivity (11).
governance;
4)
the
distribution
of
power/autonomy and maintenance of local
self-reliance; 5) the establishment of
equitable livelihoods and social justice; 6)
the use of and care for natural resources;
coherence and maintenance of social life
and, underlying all of these, 8) a balanced,
wholistic use of scientific/technological
means
with
traditional/
indigenous
means.
Now, as we noted, both the defining
issues and these pivotal questions arise
from Greggs understanding of the India
of his time. I have already stressed that
that was an experiential, an informed and
a wholistic understanding, but it was also
very much of that time. That datedness
is part of the limitation of Greggs work but
it is also a unique opportunity for our
dialogue with the past. We can learn a
great deal from tracing how the situation
of India has been changing in the last
seven decades, for better or for worse. We
can also learn how the pivotal questions
have changed and must be re-asked in
new ways. In retrospect and respectfully,
then, we must attempt to update these
issues in the light of what has happened in
India and the world in the last 65 years.
Then, in a more dialogical and analytic
mode, we will be able to turn to what
Gregg defined as the pivotal questions for
India and see in what ways the must be
expanded, refocussed or re-defined.
From Then to Now: Outline of a
Critical- Dialogical Approach to
Greggs work In the Contemporary
Context
Gregg defined the pivotal questions
for India in terms of the structures he saw
and experienced in 1952. Our first task
must be to trace how those questions in
general have changed and what the
changes imply for an understanding of the
issues before India now. We can do this
briefly and in broad strokes here.
For an account of this deep critique of psychological colonialism see Ashis Nandy, The Intimate Enemy. Loss and
Recovery of Self under Colonialism, Oxford, UP, 2009. Nandy reads Gandhi as a critical traditionalist who
attempted to justify and defend the innocence which confronted modern Western colonialism and its various
psychological offshoots in India (IX). We will return to this below.
See Ashis Nandy, An Ambiguous Journey to the City. The Village and other Odd Ruins of the Self in Indian
Imagination. Oxford, India, 2007.
Vandana Shiva, The Green Revolution in the Punjab, From The Ecologist, Vol. 21, No. 2, March-April 1991.
that
See Kosek, Richard Gregg: Yet for all Greggs language of psychology and strategy, his vision retained a
religious basis. He was explicit about the spiritual imperative at the heart of his rejection of violence. He ended
his books by explaining that nonviolent action was the practical instrument by which we can make very great
progress toward creating the kingdom of God . . . here on earth. With that language, he positioned himself as
an heir to the Social Gospel tradition that sought to usher in the millennium through human progress (1331).
8
See Kosek for a summary of this: He advocated a strong emphasis on agriculture as the most important part of
the life of the nation. Economic life would be marked by cooperative arrangements and simplicity of living,
while a new educational system would teach children through some craft or productive and really useful manual
work. Gregg hoped not merely for non- violent political action; he dreamed of a nonviolent society that would
restore meaning and purpose to modern existence(1347).
Since spirit is in the world of outer Nature as well as within man, religion is need to make man reverence Nature
and hence limit and control his predatory habits against Nature. This is, true religion, as well as intelligence is
the sustained of a healthy and adequate soil (32).
10
Kosek: He believed that Gandhi was developing a comprehensive counter- modernity, a more humane
alternative to Western civilization that would use modern scientific knowledge to create a simplified,
decentralized, peaceful, and ecologically balanced culture (1320).
9
At the end
of work,
Gregg
addresses the objective that Gandhi
advocated
a very
unrevolutionary
return
to
traditional
models
of
development and community, as well as
the older out- of-date technologies of
manual labour and self- discipline. By the
yardstick of progress as continual
technological innovation that may appear
to be true Gregg notes, but in a world
which has forgotten the inner worlds of
self-transformation, the real revolution
in fact lies in hands of the one who is
willing to take the first step:
The
follower
of
Gandhijis
programme does not have to wait for
a large-scale revolution; he starts one
inside him [her-] self and carries it out
with [her] his own handsThe Spirit
has power. Along this way lies hope
(206).
In the modern context in which
Gregg was writing this turn inward was
indeed revolutionary. It is just as
revolutionary in the post-modern context
in which we find ourselves. It is
revolutionary, Gregg argues,
idea,
among
leaders
that
governments
or
or
other
large
need not obey moral laws
applicable to an individual.
The Dangers
Before turning to each of the dangers in
particular, it will be worthwhile to understand the
kind of framework for analysis which they provide.
In this sense, they can be described as both
structural dangers and ethical or spiritual
dangers. Both kinds of dangers have a social form,
however, and that is what gives Greggs approach
its unique character.
Gregg himself notes that the first three
dangerssoil erosion/overpopulation, socialpolitical/religious violence and the unequal
distribution of powerare common to all modern
societies and constitute the gravest or most
immediate threats to the human well-being. This is
to say that they are all structural issues, i.e.,they are
built into the social order itself and given a large
degree of acceptability because of that. As Gregg
says, they are all inter-related and go deep into
the foundations and processes of society. They
are also hidden (part of the common sense and
banality of daily life) and thus justified by
ideological claims of the society as a whole, for
example, by the claims of a highly productive
agricultural policy, or good order with its
hierarchy and stability (which requires violence
and repression), and finally, a successful economy
(geared to ever increasing production and thus
unequal wealth and power). Although it is possible
and important to update Greggs account of the
dangers, it is most valuable to recognize that their
structural character traces the danger directly back
to their roots within
See The Self Beyond Yourself: One of the reasons for the anxiety and dismay that prevails so widely in the
modern Western world is that a fair number of assumptions which have been held for centuries are now being
upset and shown to be invalid..The experience of changes n those assumptions and the groping for deeper and
sounder assumptions to replace them is profoundly disturbing (31).
People would not be so reluctant to try to transcend the self (a cluster of pairs of opposites) if they could realize
the similarity of this transcending to that of marriage. Nor do we dread the loss of self and of sense of
separateness which comes when we witness great drama or listen to great music or find ourselves absorbed in the
excitement of a good story or a game or go to sleep (The Self, 128).
13
It might be noted that this is a statement of counter-modernity when contrasted with Descartes cogito ergo
sum: assumptions cannot be proven and prove nothing but they are essential to a meaningful human
interaction within the universe.
12
Such a ritual of moral action is not carried out to attain control over outer forces of inanimate Nature but to
control the chaotic forces within the minds and hearts of [human beings](The Self, 208).
15
I consider it reasonably clear that the solution of conflicts, within oneself and in the outer world and also in the
way to wisdom and enlightenment lies in the realms of spirit. The solutions and the wisdom have to come
originally in the minds and hearts of individuals. For social action the insights can be pooled, but even then the
initiative must come from individuals (The Self, 230).
14
stress a fundamental equity in gender roles and division and specialization of labour, 4)
possibilities that would be reflected in a just social ever increasing commerce,
5) urbanization, 6) money valuation and
and economic order.
money control of most things and
What is the relation between this wholistic activities, 7)reliance on
(ethical spiritual) view and the scientifictechnological one which has shaped the modern
world? Gregg insists that they are not truly
contradictory and indeed that they are essentially
complementary. Although that complementary view
must be recovered from the divisions created by the
dirve for progress which forgets the whole. This will
require a process of deep reflection and yet it is
essential to preventing further destruction. A great
deal of what follows will be an attempt to disentangle
claims that emerge from a non-wholistic science
(which is often at the service of economic and political
interests) to revise them and integrate them in a
context that is wholistic. This will yield a
worldview which for Gregg is thoroughly scientific
and modern and it will also be Gandhian.
With these imminent dangers in mind and
also with a sense of the principles needed to meet
them, Gregg now turns to examine Capitalism
and Communism as socio-political systems. His
analysis will be both practical and theoretical; it
will also be critical of what falls short of the
wholistic view.
Chapter II. Capitalism
Main Features of Capitalism
Capitalism is a social and economic
system that has existed so long and under
so many conditions that it is hard to
define. It is well enough known and widely
enough experienced, however, for us to
discuss it without attempting precise
definition. It has many varieties and
degrees. It prevails now in most of the
countries of the world in varying strength
and with various modifications. Some of its
chief characteristics are: 1) and emphasis
on private property and competition,
2)increasing
technology
and
industrialism.
3)
ever
increasing
A) Destruction of Forests
Take the matter of destruction of
forests
previously
mentioned.
The
maintenance of a good forest cover on all
mountains, hills and steeply sloping
places is of enormous importance to
the soil conservation, food production and
consequent safety, security, prosperity
and duration of every nation, culture or
civilization. As John Steward Collis wrote,
Trees hold up the mountains. They
cushion the rainstorms. They discipline
the rivers. They control the floods. They
maintain the springs. They foster
the
birds (Triumph of the Tree, 149). They
also moderate air temperatures, help
increase and even up rainfall.. The story of
how the destruction of forests devastated
many great ancient civilizations is told in
Topsoil in Civilization mentioned in
the bibliography.
In the instance of the United States
where the destruction of forests has been
so colossal and so rapid, there is now
plenty of technical understanding of what
the results will be. Nevertheless, the
greed for immediate money profits of
the great lumber companies and beef
cattle and sheep grazing groups together
with the carelessness of small landowners
prevents
the
establishment
and
maintenance of proper care sustained you
do for adequate restrictions on grazing.
The United States shows have unrestricted
capitalistic industrialism destroys the
forest and soil which ensure a countrys
water and food.
B) Soil Erosion
The important point here is that by
far the greatest part of soil erosion
happened in the last 250 years which were
it requires from
gallons of water.
50,000
to
125,000
90%
or
almost
double.
For
all
agricultural products, about 40% for
industrial water, about 170%. These
increases are much greater than the
expected increase in the US population
during that period. Since 1939 the US
has imported more raw materials that it
produced and the deficit is set to rise.
These figures not only show the
insatiable
appetite
and
reckless
consumption of raw materials by the most
highly industrialized nation, illustrating the
tendency of capitalism; but they also show
that there is no limiting principal in capitalism,
no self- restraint. The doctrine of an ever expanding
market is inherent in capitalism. Capitalistic
industrialism is using up natural resources
so fast that it can be fairly said to be
parasitic
on
the
fortunes
of
our
descendants and of the weaker nations
and peoples, robbing them of the
materials for a good life.
In theory, such a lack of self-restraint
would not seem to be a necessary element
of capitalism. But in practice the hunger of
the financiers and industrial managers for
power, the prevailing money standards
E) Harming Health
There is yet another weakness
appearing. Though we do not have solid
statistics as to comparative overall
health or disease in industrialized as
against non-industrialized societies, it
seems probable that there is less
infectious or communicable disease in
industrialized nations. The expectation of
life at birth is higher in
highly
industrialized societies than in less
industrialized societies. But the group of
so-called degenerative diseasescancer,
heart
disease,
circulatory
diseases,
diabetes, and kidney diseaseis higher in
the industrialized nations than elsewhere.
If you wonder how health can be
blamed on capitalistic industrialism, one
answer is that the soil erosion and
impoverishment and loss of soil minerals
already discussed results in food crops
which are lower in proteins, in minerals
and vitamins. Industrialism causes the soil
losses and hence is partly responsible for
the ill health of those who have to
consume the inadequate food.
F) Crippling Education
Just as in the case of forest
distraction, theres no reason necessarily
inherent in capitalistic industrialism
why education should suffer. But the fact is
that in two of the most highly
industrialized countries, the US and Great
Britain there is a great shortage of school
buildings and teachers for grammar
schools, high schools and colleges. The
social status and pay of teachers is far
below that of industrial executives, and
indeed in the US often lower than that of a
good carpenter, plumber or skilled
mechanic. In the US many thousands of
teachers every year are leaving the
profession going into other occupations
word to use a living. The difficulties in
education in the US will steadily grow
more severe because of the growth of
population.
G) Corruption of Consumers
nations
raises
some
very
serious
problems and doubts. As Sir Geoffrey
Vickers said,
We may argue whether this
change or that is good or bad. We
seldom recognize that the rate of
change may itself be crucial. Let us
suppose that human kind is infinitely
adaptable. Even if
it is, its
adaptability must be largely a function
of the rate at which one generation
replaces another. What each of us can
learn is limited but each generation
starts from a new datum. Social as well
as biological changes are phased to
the number
K) Attack on Nature
One
of
the
assumptions
of
capitalistic industrialism is that nature is
only an obstacle to be overcome and an
endless source of raw materials for the
human being to use or squander as they
see fit, and that the human being is the
master of nature. Both aspects of the
assumption are gravely mistaken. The
human being is the product and portion of
nature but not her master. Humans are
able to lay waste her treasures and have
done so with exhilarating speed, but
nature is stronger and will exact her price.
It will be heavy and bitter. This assumption
of capitalism is
a dreadful ecological
mistake.
The
human
being
can
permanently be at best only a humble,
reverent and subordinate partner of
nature. In fact all processes, including the
destruction of natural resources, are
constantly speeding up in capitalistic
industrialism so there is little time left in
which to make the necessary great
changes in attitudes.
M)
Militarism
N) Summary
Let me enumerate again these
thirteen harmful results of capitalistic
industrialism: distraction of forests, using
up
water
supplies,
soil
erosion,
squandering about their natural resources,
harming health, crippling education,
corruption of consumers, boredom of city
and factory life, too rapid changes,
undermining the cohesion of society,
attacking Nature, violation of accounting
principles, and militarism. None of these
are sentimental yearnings for a simpler
Golden age of long ago; they are present
factual dangers, largely material.
Competition
Competition is one of the essential
principles of capitalism. In the later stages
of capitalism there is much merging of
small
competitive
units
into
big
monopolistic
corporations,
trust,
cartels
and
associations, but the
competition between
these
groups
becomes fiercer than that of the
proceeding small groups or individuals, as
is shown by the increase of wars.
Other Dangers
Of all the seven dangers for India
mentioned at the beginning of this essay,
capitalism created the first and it has
increased all the others, especially
military violence, the world over.
Suicidal character
Capitalism makes money and power
its God, and sacrifices almost everything
to that God. It has gravely injured all
cultures and religions and is now,
I
believe, destroying itself. It rests upon
many relative assumptions which not logic
but history seems to be improving false,
including the ideas that human progress
consists of amassing material things; the
idea
and
Dialogue
(6):
and
Dialectical
Socialism
telephone
and
postal
radically different
revolutionary but
approach,
and
indeed
is
Indian
1. Raise
means of
agricultural
a) big
dams
works;
production
and
by
irrigation
use
of
chemical
and
mil
industrialization
in
for
the
available
housing,
food,
3. Develop
Hydro-electric
power
industry, railways and lighting.
for
sanitation
and
medical
protection should
everywhere.
help
to
promote
An Outline of the
Program
Untouchables;
5. Village sanitation;
6. Peasant welfare;
7. Education in hygiene and
health;
labour
welfare
and
in
floods,
oppression were the districts where handspinning, hand-weaving and other items
of village uplift had been in operation for
some years.
In basic education, the pupil begins
by learning some skill, say spinning,
basketmaking, carpentry or pottery. Out
of the necessities for measurements in
the
work
they
begin
to
learn
mathematics. From information as to the
source of the materials they learn
geography. From instruction in the origin
they learn the elements of history. From
having to read instructions and keep
records they learn reading and writing. If
they buy materials or sell products they
start in the subject of economics. Each
subject has a basis in concrete, daily
reality and value. Learning is all
integrated with life. Manual labour is
dignified and enriched. The character of
the pupil grows with their learning. They
learn to work with others. They develop
good work and personal skills. All of this
applies to girls as well as boys.
The other items of the constructive
program, when developed, tend to knit
with
Other
Political
and
values
of
this
Gandhis
ideal
of
self-sufficient
villages and a minimum on the side and
number of cities would put a brake on all
this process and save the soils and
ultimately prolong civilization and Indian
culture. His approach is built not on the
division of labour but rather by securing
spontaneous cooperation on a wide scale.
Relieving
Rural
Unemployment
The
rural
unemployment
and
underemployment in India is stupendous.
Much of it is caused by the climate; the
long, hot, dry season creates conditions
the soil so that the peasants cannot do
any work on the land. It makes a dreadful
economic and moral burden. We saw that
one of the purposes of industrialism is to
attract into the factories and mills villagers
who are now unemployed and thus to
relieve
rural
unemployment
and
underemployment and the pressure of
people on the land. But work in city
factories undermines family life and thus
harms civilization.
Gandhis programme, if ardently
pursued by those who have the power and
knowledge in and out of Government,
would relieve rural unemployment by
means of village industry work. The
implements would all be indigenous
(swadeshi) and far less expensive than
the big factories and their machinery. The
villagers would gain enormously in selfconfidence
and
hope
by
their
unemployment
in
making
of
the
implements and in their use .
It is said that industrialism will raise
the living standards of the people, will
provide more clothing and housing,
comforts and conveniences. Gandhis
programme will provide the clothing
quicker, I believe, than the other will do,
and certainly will enhance the self-respect
of the workers faster than industrialism
would do. With the improvements in
agriculture, the quality and quantity of
food for the peasants will greatly increase
Response
and
Yourself.
From Afterword
1. How has Gandhis constructive
programme been influential in the
west?
2. Why is being self-taught and an
independent thinker important?