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RE: Conical primary length formula


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Subject: RE: Conical primary length formula
From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 09:22:04 -0600
Resent-Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 09:35:29 -0600
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Original poster: "Godfrey Loudner" <ggreen-at-gwtc-dot-net>

Hello Michael

Imagine that the copper tubing is wound around a cone with


bottom radius r. Take

P = angle of the cone edge with the horizontal,

d = the diameter of the copper tubing,

G = the distance between the turns, and

n = the number of turns.

The coil must start at the bottom of the cone. Take

R = r + d(1 + Cos[P])/(2Sin[P]),

A = R + (G + d)nCos[P], and

B = (G + d)/2Pi.

The formula for the length is Pi/((G + d)Cos[P]) times the below

A(A^2+B^2)^(1/2) - R(R^2 + B^2)^(1/2) +

((G + d)/(2Pi))^2Log[(A+(A^2+B^2)^(1/2))/(R+(R^2+B^2)^(1/2))].

Note that x^2 is x squared, x^(1/2) is the square root of x,


and Log[x] is the natural logarithm of x.

Note that the length formula is the distance along the center

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of the copper tube. This should be close enough. I suppose one


could define the length to be an average of all the lengths
through the tube, but is this really worth the effort?

The helix formula is gotten from the above with P = 90 degrees.

Good luck with this mess.

Godfrey Loudner

Does anyone know a formula to find the length of tubing required for
a conical primary sloped at a given angle?

I found one for a flat

spiral and made a guess at a derivation for a straight helix, but


couldn't figure this one out.

Also, if you have one for a straight

helix, would you mind posting it so I can compare what I got?

Thanks!
Michael Johnson

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