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Hyena Partial
From: IrkenProdigy (irkenprodigy@gmail.com)

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Sent: Mon 10/20/08 10:02 AM
To: Decapitated_Morality@hotmail.com
Hi there! This is space_mutt (Zim Gekko) from Livejournal! You were interested in getting a partial
of your hyena made by me :) Thank you for the reference pics (that's a totally wicked character - I
love it!) , I can give you two quotes for the commission -
$400 - Partial includes head with moving jaw, optional 'follow-me' eyes, detailed teeth. Also has
footpaws, handpaws, and tail.
$300 - Partial includes head with static jaw, standard eyes and teeth. Also has footpaws,
handpaws and tail.
Both prices include shipping and a free conbadge to go along with your new suit. Please let me
know how this sounds to you :) If so, I'll need to get some measurements from you.
Thanks a ton!
Zim
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
That sounds very reasonable. My one question is, can you take payments? I wouldn't expect
any work to be done until it's paid for, but I know I can't pay all $400 at once. I can probably do
$100-$200 per pay check (I'm paid every two weeks, with this week being a pay check week). =]
If that's no problem I'd love to get him done and will get you measurements ASAP.
Re: Hyena Partial

Sent: Mon 10/20/08 10:40 AM
To: Lazer Hyena (decapitated_morality@hotmail.com)
Hi there!
Sure thing, I forgot to mention in the previous e-mail that divided payments are certainly an
option. Usually I ask for half or so upfront (to gather supplies and fur) and then the remainder
upon update or completion. :) If you're using Paypal, my account is IrkenProdigy@gmail.com
Please remember to include 'Hyena Partial' (or something similar) in the notes!
For your measurements, if I could get -
Head
Circumference (measured all the way around, from the forehead)
Height (from chin to top of head)
Distance across your face (measured from temple to temple)
Distance from the tip of your nose to your chin
Feet
Shoe Size (in American sizing, please)
Hands
Length of your hand, measured from the tip of your middle finger to the base of your palm
Distance from your thumb to your pinkie, measured while the hand is splayed out.
and that should be everything :) If there's any specific details you'd like to point out, please let me
know. I'm saving the reference images you sent me, if you have anymore, feel free to send em
my way too. You'll receive regular updates during the making of your suit, too!
Thanks a bunch!
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Sorry I couldn't get back to you till now, I'm without internet at home. Anyway, I know these
might not be 100% the measurements you asked for, but it's the best I had. I can't find my
measuring tape so I had to use these that I'd taken previously and saved on the computer.
brow = 24" with glasses, 22" without

Head length = 10 1/2" top to chin
arm length = 25" from under arm to tip of middle finger.

upper arm = 17 1/4" around
Around wrist = 7"
Hand from wrist to middle finger = 7"

palm of hand at widest point = 3 1/2"
from side of hand to tip of streached out thumb = 6 1/2"
Shoe size = Men's 10 1/2
around calf = 19"
around ankle = 11"
Re: Hyena Partial

Sent: Thu 10/23/08 5:05 PM
Hi there!
Thanks, those work fine :) Of course, if something winds up not fitting right when you get the suit,
just let me know and I can make adjustments. The nice thing about suits is there there's a little
leeway with the sizing, seeing as they're so flexible, but if an issue pops up, I'll fix it no prob.
I haven't made my fur order yet, but will probably have it done by tonight. Let me e-mail you back
with a few options, you can pick out what you want, then put down your deposit and I'll go ahead
and add it on. Again, if there's any details (fur-related or otherwise) that we haven't covered yet,
please let me know asap so I can get the necessary materials together.
Thanks a bunch!
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Awesome, thanks so much.. =D I have some more refs, but one thing I will point out, since I
don't think I have a ref for his tail, not a good one anyway, is that it's not black all the way.. urmm..
Lesse I'll do a quick paint doodle to illustrate.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Vaga_Deathrose/Furrystuff/?
action=view&current=tails.jpg
But yes, I do have some more refs :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Vaga_Deathrose/Furrystuff/lolayeena.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Vaga_Deathrose/Conbadges/1218677890_reaux_ima
ge0022.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Vaga_Deathrose/Conbadges/shadow_sani.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Vaga_Deathrose/Conbadges/LazerBadgePNG.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Vaga_Deathrose/Conbadges/lazerbadge-1.png
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1253230/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1221777/ - I know the nose is pink in this one, but it was just the
original concept, I changed it to black later.
He also has black pawpads too.
I'll take the measurements at home and get them to you ASAP.
I think the only thing I haven't mentioned is, that I'd like it to be a little roomy inside the head so
I can wear it comfortably with my glasses. I've had heads before that were supposedly made to fit
around my glasses but they haven't worked so well because they were made just big enough to fit
the measurement I gave, which caused the glasses to press uncomfortably into my face. I have
kind of thick rimmed, retangular shaped glasses, so they stick out from my face a bit, which is
why I ask for the inside to be a bit roomy.
Also, I forgot to ask, are the hand paws shoulder length? If not could I get them that way, I'll
pay a bit more if I have to, but wrist length hand paws are pretty useless to me, since I don't wear
long sleeved shirts, lol.
Re: Hyena Partial

Sent: Fri 10/24/08 1:35 AM
Sure, I can leave space at the back and make a cut-out around the eyes. The result would be that
you'd have your head resting comfortably at the back while the foam and extra space at the front
would prevent the head from pressing on the glasses (hope that makes sense). It shouldn't look
any different to anyone from the outside, but should be effective on the inside.
The default paws are midlength, meaning they end at the elbow unfortunetly. Should length paws
are only an additional $15 though, and they include elastic at the top to prevent slipping.
Hope that helps, if there's anything else just let me know! :)
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
I'll go ahaid with the shoulder length. =D And thanks for being accomodating. n_n It's such a
pain not to have my glasses in suit, and often looks silly having them on the outside because they
look to small on the head.
Re: Hyena Partial
Sent: Fri 10/24/08 11:05 AM
Alrighty cool :)
I have some options for the fur for you. Right now I have some lush black seal I can use for the
muzzle/spots/ears, and some regular long-pile black (3" pile!) I can use for the mane and tail, if
you'd like For the brown though, I'd like to get your opinion on any of these -
http://www.crscraft.com/products/product.asp?
pid=91502&L1=2&L2=13&L3=0&L4=0&L5=0&cat=bear+supplies%E2%8A
%82%3DFabrics&sub=&class=&searchOffset=x
If any of these appeal to you, please let me know :
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hmm I think I would go with the ginger, as it's a tad darker than the tan. =]
Re: Hyena Partial

Sent: Fri 10/24/08 1:09 PM
Perfect, I'll go ahead and make the order. If you could please send your deposit via Paypal to
IrkenProdigy@gmail.com, then this'll all be go.
Thanks a ton!
PAYMENT SENT: Oct 24, 2008 Payment To Helen

Freshcoln Cleared Details Payment To Helen Freshcoln 7B861069C45807029
-$50.00 USD
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
It's sent. I could only send $50 this time because I owed my boss $100 and had to pay rent, but
I hope it shows that I am interested and intend to pay. =]
Re: Hyena Partial

Sent: Fri 10/24/08 10:29 PM
Sure, that's fine, it covers the fur and enough of the supplies to get started :) Whenever you have
a chance, just send me a note before sending more.
Thanks a bunch, I'll keep you updated as things progress~!
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hey there, just emailing to let you know that I've not forgotten you, circumstances out of my
controll have eatten my funds this time around, but I will send you another payment asap. =]
Thanks for your patience.. and sorry for the typos, I cut my finger cooking dinner last night so it's
a bit hard to type well with a big bandaid on my finger, lol. Also, would love to see any progress
pics if You've gotten the chance to start on it yet.
Re: Hyena Partial

Sent: Sun 11/09/08 11:46 AM
Hi there!
No problem, thank you for the update :) As far as progress, I've only got the basic shape formed,
but I'll have some time to work on it further today. My laptop died last week, so updates will be
probably once or twice a week, but I'm setting up a LJ that will have photos so folks can check in.
Thanks!
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Don't'cha just love computers, lol. They like to die at the worst times. Thanks for the responce,
and if you want to link me to the LJ when you're done that'd rock. Also, don't worry about constant
updates, I usually just send an e-mail now and then to let you know that I haven't forgotten about
the commission or the owed money, lol. Don't want anyone to think I've run out on them, cvause
I'm notoriously hard to reach most times. (no home net, only email at work, and I can only do that
when I'm here alone, lol)/
Re: Hyena Partial

Sent: Tue 12/16/08 6:06 PM
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Hi there!
I know it's been awhile since the last update - I apologize for the delay! There's some photos
attached to this e-mail for you :) I haven't been able to progress much since November,
unfortunetly, but this gives you a chance to approve the basic shape before I continue. In this
photo, I just have the 'face' part finished, it's covered in ducttape so I can start patterning the fur -
the duct tape is not a permanent part of the head. I apologize for the lighting of the photos, but
hope that they give you a good idea of how this is coming along! If you see anything you'd like
changed so far, please let me know! There's two shots from the side (one with the mouth closed,
the other open) and one from the front. The nose will be sanded and refined during the process of
building the head, and the eye holes will be gradually reshaped after the eyes are installed.
Please let me know what you think! Thanks a bunch!
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Thanks so much for the progress pictures! Very awesome looking so far. I will ask that if there
is any way possibl, if you could craft nostils for the nose so that I can attatch a nose ring, or, if you
think you could craft and attatch one that would be awesome (I'll pay the extra if needed) If you're
able to do that I'd love to see his other facial peircings done too,. I'm really trying to build a suit
with some personality, not just 'generic hyena #42, as Lazer has a lot of personality to offer.
I'm hoping to have a payment for you this check (That'll be the 19th) but due to it being the
Christmas season I don't want to promise anything and not be able to make that promise. I'll be
sure to note you though if I am able to do that.
Re: Hyena Partial

Sent: Tue 12/16/08 10:21 PM
Hi there!
Certainly, it shouldn't be a problem adding in the nostrils, I'll go ahead and put the peircing in
there too for ya :) I'll get back to you when I start on the ears, since they're a whole seperate
peice and are put on closer to the end. Tomorrow I'm going to try and get the eyes in there and
then I can show you another update with those and the nose. For expression, did you want more
sinister, 'evil' sorta eyes, or more goofy/happy eyes?
As for payment, just let me know when I should keep an eye out for it :) No rush, I know how the
holidays are.
Thanks!
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Kind of a silly/slaphappy look. Lazer can be crazy and a bit evil but I kind of wanted to make
him a little more.. cuddly? cause my other suit is pure mean/evilness and so isn't really good for
public outings or huggles. XD
Also, when you start furring the muzzle or whatever, if you could include his two peircings on
the muzzle.. I think you can see them in the refs.. Not sure but it's two studds on each side of the
muzzle. As aid, I'll totally give extra for the peircings, cause it's easier to make them look good if
they are put on during constuction instead of afterwards, where I have to try to make them fit/stay
on and look good.
I'll be seeing my paycheck today and then I can, if possible, send you a payment.
Re: Hyena Partial

Sent: Thu 12/18/08 12:07 PM
Alright cool, I can do that no problem! I'm going to put the eyes in and take some pics here in a
few hours for you. As for the piercings, do you want the nose one removable? How about for the
muzzle studds? If you want them permanent, I can actually make them into part of the head,
which would gaurentee maximum hold and sturdieness. Otherwise, I can make them out of
Sculpy and install little magnets or hooks so that you can take them out if/when you want.
Thanks!
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ouuu options.. XD Ummm.. I think removable would be nice in case I wanted to do some non
furry thing.. but I think I'm going to go with permanant, cause I have a habit of things that aren't
firmly attatched to my suits going missing. X__X LIke my nose at the obstical course last FWA.
Re: Hyena Partial

Sent: Thu 12/18/08 3:35 PM

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Hi again! Alrighty, got some pics for you. I just noticed something though - did I get the eye colour
right? It appears different in a few of the reference art pieces, if I got them backwards, just let me
know and I'll make new ones. Also, they look sorta washed out in the photos - it's from the flash,
the eyes are actually nice and bright. If we can get some decent weather here soon, I'd love to
take this outside for some better pics.
The nosering is in now, the nose itself will have a fine black mesh on the inside so the nostrils
wont appear as large as they are right now. The ring itself will be smoothed and shaped a little
more after it's set up a little, and I can paint it with metal paint if you'd like (I have gold, copper
and silver). For the muzzle studs, I'm thinking that if I put them in now, the fur might conceal them
too much. When I start furring the muzzle, I'll leave two spots open for the piercings, install them
with contact cement and then shave around it to make sure they're plenty visible.
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Looks awesome! =D I'm going to send you another payment today, so be on the look out for it,
okay? =]
As for the ring, silver is good for all his peircings, and the eyes are done right =D
PAYMENT SENT : Dec 19, 2008 Payment To Helen Freshcoln

Cleared Details Payment To Helen Freshcoln 0VF8036524867182F
-$50.00 USD
Re: Hyena Partial

Sent: Sat 1/17/09 4:05 PM

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Hey man,
Sorry for the long delay in updates, but I got something here I think you'll enjoy ;)
Note that these are still very much work-in-progress, the mouth is nowhere near done, same with
the ears and peircings. Please let me know what ya think though! That fur you picked is turning
out awesome - it takes to the airbrush perfectly. If you see anything that needs changing so far,
please let me know.
Thanks!
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Whooo!! He's looking great! I'm so excited! *squee!*. My one question is, can you thicken the
ear rim a bit? The top portion? I figured that might make the ear piercings a little easier for the
ears, as one in each ear is a barbell that goes from the top to the bottom? If you thicken it it might
make the ear seem a little deeper too? Which is something that I think I prefer astheticaly. =3 Just
let me know. Also, I'm attatching a badge that shows the piercings the best, since I know I'm not
super good at conveying them through words. The conbadge shows the correct lip and facial
piercings (Other than the nose ring, also the color is wrong, the spots and other markings are
black like you have them), and the OC doodle shows the correct ear piercings.
Thanks so much for the update! =D
Re: Hyena Partial

Sent: Sun 1/18/09 10:40 AM
Hi there! Totally, I'll work on the ears today and send you some photos tonight :) I had a scare
there for a moment, thinking I did the muzzle/markings the wrong colour... but everything else
looks correct so far, right? XD If so, I'm hoping to finish this up during the next week or so, rest of
the partial included.
And I hate to bring up payment, but do you know when you'll be able to make another deposit? I
only ask because we have some cons coming up soon and could really use the extra cash :P
Just let me know when you have a chance - thanks a bunch!
Zim
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Lol, yeah That's why I made sure to let you know that the color was black. Other than that it
looks awesome!!! As for payment, I get an official paycheck on the 30th of this month. I'll be able
to send it to you then, though, if I come into any money before that time I'll surely send some your
way. How much do I still owe you? I know I've payed $100, but I'm bad at keeping up with total
costs... <<" Har.
Anyway, can't wait to see more pictures! This is awesome.
Hi again!
No worries, sounds good to me :) Yeah, you put down $100 as a deposit, and we'd agreed to
$400 total for the whole partial. If you can't do the other $300 all at once, I'm fine with another
$100 or so until the next major update.
Also, I did some work on the ears and started putting in jewelery yesterday, but it totally skipped
my mind that I was going in for surgery this morning... I wont be able to pics for a few days as I'm
completely lucid right now while typign this and would probably wind up sending you a photo of a
cat or maybe a bowl of fruit :x
Thanks again man, i'm really glad you're likin this
Zim
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hey there, sorry I didn't get to send you the money earlier, I lost internet access when my
computer took a nose dive. I'm sending $80 for the fur and as a payment on my suit. Sorry it's not
more than that, my girlfriend's birthday is Monday and of course Saturday is valentine's day, so
I've got to splurge a little. My shipping address is :
Ryan Leaptrott
DELETED FOR MY PROTECTION
Also, if you already resold the fur due to my lack of payment then just put the whole $80
towards my suit.
PAYMENT SENT : Feb 13, 2009 Payment To Helen Freshcoln Cleared

Details Payment To Helen Freshcoln 2R956720KE6943146 -$80.00 USD
Re: Hyena Partial

Sent: Fri 2/13/09 1:45 PM
Hi there!
No worries, I held onto it for you :) $80 is fine, there's no rush, just pay as you can. I haven't had
a lot of time to do much lately, but am hoping to make some more progress this weekend. I'll send
you some photos by Sunday most likely, but things are coming along well (albeit slowly).
Take care!
Zim
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hey, just making sure you got the $80 okay. How much more do I owe you now on the suit. I'm
hoping to have it paid off as soon as my tax return drops into my bank account.
Re: Hyena Partial

Sent: Sat 2/21/09 10:59 PM
Hi there!
Yep, it sure did :D I'm out at Texas Furry Fiesta right now, but will be back on Monday and can
give ya a rundown then.
Thanks!
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Awesome! Hope that you have a good time while you're there.
Re: Hyena Partial

Sent: Sat 2/28/09 6:07 AM
Hey there!
Sorry bout that, things have just been sorta crazy around here :x But yepyep, I still think I'll have
him finished up in time, I'm actually headed out to another show right now (literally, like, walkin
out the door right this second) but will be finishing up Lazer as soon as I'm back on Monday and
shipping him out to ya on Tuesday.
As far as payment, I have written here that you've paid $180 out of $400, does that sound right?
Feel free to double check Paypal, I've been doin my best to update as I've recieved payment, but
if that doesn't look right for any reason just let me know.
Thanks!
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Alright, the rest of the money is sent! Can't wait to see him in person. Also, did the paws come
with claws? I can't remember... As for the feet, I'd prefer 4 toes, if you haven't gotten quite that far
yet.
PAYMENT SENT: Feb 28, 2009 Payment To Helen Freshcoln Cleared

Details Payment To Helen Freshcoln 4XS975412B985242D -$220.00 USD
Re: Hyena Partial

Sent: Sat 2/28/09 3:43 PM
Hi there!
Awesomawesome, thanks a ton! I think you'll really like him, I'm pretty proud of how the peircings
came out (which, ack, I'll photograph when I get back home.. again... on Monday...). Of course, if
you get him and there's anything you want changed, just let me know. I'm still new at this and
really like feedback on ways to improve :) Yep, paws came with claws, and I'll be furring the feet
on Monday. Did you want claws on the toes too?
Thanks again!
Zim
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hey, just checking in. You said you get me pictures when you came back on Monday, it's
almost Friday, just wondering what's up. I mean you've posted on other sites, so just asking for a
little update, since you said you'd be getting the feet done Tuesday and have him shipped soon.
At least a reply to my e-mail would be cool. =3
Re: Hyena Partial

Sent: Thu 3/05/09 10:51 PM
Hey there!
I'm sooo sorry, I've been juggling a ton of work right now and keep forgetting to check this, I'll
definitely have something to ya tonight or tomorrow - and yeah, I'm running behind getting
everything shipped :( You needed this in time for FWA, righto? I'll send it overnight or 2nd day if I
have to to get it to ya in time - sorry again about the delays!
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
It's cool, I just wanted some sort of response to let me know what's up. In definitely know about
getting busy all of a sudden. =3 Just thanks for giving me an update of some sort. Can't wait to
see what's done.
Re: Hyena Partial

Sent: Fri 3/06/09 9:12 PM

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Hi there Lazer!
I wanted to send you a quick picture of the tail - just let me know what you think! The markings
have since be airbrushed on, but this was the most recent picture I had on the computer - please
let me know if there's anything you see that you'd like changed.
Thanks again for being so patient!
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Sorry, the only link I have to a really good side view ref is porn.. X___X
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1916835 The tail should have more fluff underneath it. It's not quite
a traditional hyena tail. Kind of have the black underfur start about an inch down the tail? Thanks
for the pictures, hope this isn't too much trouble to correct?
Re: Hyena Partial

Sent: Sat 3/07/09 1:31 PM
Hi there!
Not a problem at all, I can alter that right now :)
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Okay, thanks.
Re: Hyena Partial

Sent: Sat 3/07/09 9:07 PM

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Hey there,
Wellp, I was trying to attach the extra fur to the other tail and it just wasn't coming out very nice,
so I went ahead and made a whole new one. The pics are attached here, please let me know
what you think - I added a thin length of wire near the end for posability (there's a pic of it posed
in here too), but it straightens out nicely as well. I haven't put markings on this one yet, so just let
me know what ya think - thanks!
I love that curve. =D thanks for the remake and making it posable, it looks much more like what
I had in mind! Thanks.
Re: Hyena Partial

Sent: Sat 3/07/09 9:52 PM
Hi there!
I'm so glad :D I'll add the markings then and everything is justabout done~!
Awesome =D I hope to get a good run with him before FWA so I can get used to him, as I'm
supposed to be in a skit in the talent show.
Re: Hyena Partial

Sent: Sun 3/08/09 7:33 PM

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More updates! I wanted you to see the peircings, and if there's any I've forgotten or need to alter,
please let me know :) I got a good pound of Sculpey here at my disposal right now :P And I know
you wanted to post some photos on FA awhile back, feel free to go ahead and do anything you
like with em :3
Thanks!
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
He looks really awesome =D Love it! The only thing missing is the eyebrow piercing above the
red eye, other than that, fucking awesome. Also he has a tongue piercing but that's not really
important, as I don't know if the inner mouth has a tongue or how much trouble it'd be to add.
Super happy with this.
Re: Hyena Partial

Sent: Mon 3/09/09 12:42 AM
Hi again!
I'm really glad you like the results :D I can add that eyebrow peircing no problem, and I'll see if I
can get a peircing in on the tongue. The whole thing will be going out to you tomorrow, I'm going
to see how much it'd cost to 2nd day it - can you confirm your address for me one more time?
Thanks :D
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hey, just wanted to see if you got the suit out today. Was their a tracking number I could
watch?
Re: Hyena Partial

Sent: Tue 3/10/09 5:21 PM
Hi there!
Wellp, the suit just went out on Overnight Shipping, it will be to you before 3pm tomorrow.
I just wanted to say thank you for being so patient with me - I took on way too many projects and
got a little overwhelmed there, but you were polite and understanding the whole time :) That being
said, once the suit gets there, please let me know what you think. There's a few things I'd really
like to go back and change in the future if you'd let me - specifically the paws, both hand and foot,
as I found much nicer ways to do them a few days after finishing yours, but never got a chance to
go back and alter them. I'm a very new suit maker and know that I can continue to improve, so if
you ever want any part of your suit redone or modified, don't hesitate to ask - I want you to be
100% happy with the finished product :)
Thanks a ton - have fun at the con! Take pics, I'd love to see em in action :D
Zim
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hey there. I got Lazer today and I wanted to thank you for the fast shipping but I have some
issues.. The rubber sole has completely come off one paw, it was like that when I opened the
box... Also.. We'd decided on shoulder length paws... :
"On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
I'll go ahaid with the shoulder length. =D And thanks for being accomodating. n_n It's such a
pain not to have my glasses in suit, and often looks silly having them on the outside because they
look to small on the head."
This means I'm going to have to wear long sleeves for the whole con while I fursuit.. AKA a
jacket, since I don't own but 1 long sleeved shirt. D= There are also no spots painted on the tail. I
can just manage to squeeze into the head, the neck is a tad tight but the head is nice and roomy
on the inside and breaths well, I like that. Also... I know this is one of your first suits but I have
seams and ducttape showing all over the place... as well as a place on the back of the head
where the fur bunches up in a weird way?
I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be an asshole and I know you're pretty new to suit building but I
don't know. I love your style, art wise Lazer is beautifully done.. But I don't know if I'll even be able
to wear him to FWA without shoulderlength paws anyway. D= You also mentioned a moving jaw..
but maybe it's just the tight fit of the neck area but I can't get the movement. Also, some of the
piercings are very loosely glued to the fur and I'm afraid their going to fall off as soon as I start
moving around well...
I really don't know what to do but I hope there is some way we can get this taken care of...
Re: Lazer
Sent: Wed 3/11/09 12:45 PM
Hi there,
Oh jeez, I was worried about the feet :( That was one of the things I was really wanting to modify
before sending em to you... I'm so sorry, do you have any way to do a temp fix? Industrial hot
glue or plumbers epoxy can work, if you have any aruond. I can certainly make new ones for you,
I wanted to redo them anyway with the more sturdy style. As far as the hands and tail, yes, that's
my fault... I don't know how I missed those, and am completely embaressed. Ugh. I'll be happy to
fix em whenever you're ready.
I'm curious where the tape is showing through though, that really worries me. I use it to reinforce
everything before furring it, it helps reduce the chance of the head being crushed if it's sat on or
kicked accidently, and makes it a little more waterproof, but certainly shouldn't be showing
through :( Again, let me know after the con and I'd be happy to fix it for you. Same with the
peircings, and the jaw, any anything else that you don't like.
I'm sorry again for the errors, I hope you're not too disappointed. Send em back to me afterwards
so I can fix em up, I'll reimburse you for the shipping.
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Some of the tape is showing on the bottome of the upper jaw (at the mouth), as well as where
a seam didn't quite match up with the ear. I've not got the head right were with me at the moment
so I can't remember it all.
My only problem is that I just don't have the money for the shipping to send it back.. Once I
finish FWA I have to pay almost $800 for a plane ticket to Germany, where I'll be working for an
untold number of months. I don't know, I guess it's jsut a little dissapointing, as FWA was my last
con before said trip and I wanted to spend it fursuiting and hanging out with some good friends.
I know you were at FWA last year, will you be there this time? Maybe a little bit can be done
there to fix it up a bit? At least so that I can wear it for the con. I myself just don't really have
anything to repair the rubber with, just low-temp hot glue and I know that won't be enough to hold
it. Also, some of the claws were off the hands and the feet.. btu I don't see them in the box? o-o'
Maybe I just missed them and should look again.
Re: Lazer
Sent: Wed 3/11/09 1:09 PM
Jeez man, I'm so sorry :( I feel awful that it wasn't what you were expecting... is there anything I
can do to make it up to you for the time being? I can Paypal you the money to send it back, when
are you leaving for Germany?
Unfortunetly there's no way I can make it to FWA. I thought it was this weekend (hence the
overnight shipping), but just saw that it's next weekend, which I'm anchored here for work. Just
out of curiousity, are you going to be going to Eurofurence while in Germany? It's in August, and
there's a slim chance that I'll make it over there for that. I don't know how that would help or
anything, but it's a thought.
If there's anything I can do, please let me know. If the feetpaws don't work for you, I have a pair of
mascot shoes that I could send you for now. It'd atleast be something to wear with the suit.. heck,
I might be able to make another set of handpaws for ya today and ship em out. Just let me know,
the choice is yours, I want you to be happy with it in the end.
I'm leaving for Germany about the 2nd week in April I think?
Growly is going to bring some epoxy glue to fix the feet, if you were able to get another set of
hand paws out in time that would be helpful and very appreciated. It means a lot that you are
being helpful about it, I've had some bad experiences with commisions in which some people go
with the "to bad, so sad" responce... =/ Like I said, I realize you are just starting out, and I'm not
trying to be harsh, I just want to be able to wear and enjoy the suit. Like I said, he's artistically
beautifully done.
I might make it to Eurofurence, I'd like to and should have the money.
Thank you for being so helpful, I hope we can get everything fix and at least usable for FWA.
Re: Lazer
Sent: Wed 3/11/09 1:23 PM
Alrighty, I'm gonna get those hands started now and try to ship em out today. I'll toss some extra
claws in there too incase you can't find those other ones... it sounds like that suit went through a
lot getting there :( And yeah, I totally understand, and I appreciate the feedback - it gives me
pointers on what to look for while doing future suits. I'll let you know before the end of the day
about the status of those paws.
If you wind up goin to Eurofurence, let me know, I'd love to meet ya :) If I go, I'll be staying with
another artist (Zyklon) and his mate, we'd be takin the train in from Odessa a few days prior.
Thanks! That's awesome. One tip on your paws too, is try leaving a little extra room at the top
and turning it down to make a hem all the way around the top? There was a little seam separation
at the end of the paw. =)
Re: Lazer
Sent: Wed 3/11/09 6:25 PM
Handpaws are nearly finished, adding pawpads and claws tonight and they'll go out first thing
tomorrow. I can send pictures before they go out if you want.
Thank you, I really appreciate it. =) If you didn't have time to put on the elastic you'd
mentioned it's okay, I have some here at home I can sew on.
Re: Lazer
Sent: Wed 3/18/09 2:25 PM
Hi there,
Just making sure you recieved the replacements.
Back from FWA

From: Lazer Hyena (decapitated_morality@hotmail.com)
Sent: Tue 3/24/09 6:30 PM
To: IrkenProdigy (irkenprodigy@gmail.com)
Hey Zim, I'm back from FWA and I was sending you an e-mail, even though I really dread to
because I hate doing things like this... But.. Is there any way I could have you remake my suit or
give me a refund, minus the cost of materials of course.. I mean.. there are just so many flaws
with the suit that I was unable to use it at all this weekend. I guess I'll just tell you what's wrong so
that it's all out in the open.
The head, while roomy enough inside for my glasses, had a neck too small for me to fit them.. I'm
just able to squeeze my heade inside. The plaster nose cracked and squished during the shipping
I suppose? So the paint is coming off and it's bend out of shape. Not to mention the visible seams
and duct tape. The piercings also aren't very secure and I'm afraid they'll be very easy to come off
with any sort of activity. The teeth are very loose and about to fall out, and we'd agreed on a
moving jaw, mine doesn't move at all. The head also doesn't have a lot of support either, so the
back kind of collapses into looking flat because of that.
As for the hand paws, I appreciate the remake but the seams are very funny, especially at the
wrist.. it looks like you didn't cut the pattern to narrow and so you had left over fabric which just
makes a weird pooched out area at the wrist. We also agreed on shoulder length paws in our e-
mails. On the hands themselves there is at least one split seam and the arms didn't have spots
like they should. The claws on the remakes stayed on, but I'm not too fond of how they curve over
the fingers instead of sticking out.
The feet were a disaster, the soles were off when I opened the package.. They had no real toe
definition and looked just like slippers instead of paws. The claws were comming off of them as
well and one had some weird.. thing... going on with the leg where the fur was turned down and
glued funny..? They fit on my feet, and were the right size at least.
With the tail.. where to start.. No spots, there is a hole in the material, close to the top of the tail, I
can see, and pull out, stuffing from this hole. The extra fur you attatched is comming off and looks
like it was glued on or just lightly sewn. It didn't quite match my pictures either, though I'll say it's
artistic expression.
The fur also was not at all the quality I'd expected.. Are you sure it's really CR's fur? If it were me
I'd have sent that stuff back to them... it's very thin and not a nice quality at all.. I was hoping for
something a bit more full and actually fur like.
All in all the suit was not what I had expected.. Artistically the face is well done but the
construction, over all, is shoddy and seems rushed. I don't know if you forgot about the deadline...
or just piled too much up on your plate but this is not what I expected at all. Your other work looks
very nice and I've not heard anything bad about them.. so I'm assuming that maybe this was just
a bad run for your or something. Benifit of the doubt. I hate to sound like a jerk, and I always
dread telling someone that I'm not pleased with something they made for me.. but I can't see
myself getting any use out of the suit the way that it is right now.
Re: Back from FWA

Sent: Tue 3/24/09 11:14 PM
Hi there, I'm going to answer this in parts, I hope the bolding goes through in the e-mail.
BOLD FROM HERE ON IS ZIM REPLYING TO ME!

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hey Zim, I'm back from FWA and I was sending you an e-mail, even though I really dread to
because I hate doing things like this... But.. Is there any way I could have you remake my suit or
give me a refund, minus the cost of materials of course.. I mean.. there are just so many flaws
with the suit that I was unable to use it at all this weekend. I guess I'll just tell you what's wrong so
that it's all out in the open.
I can remake it, but it'd have to be after these other ones are finished. At the moment I'm
booked until mid-May unless someone else pulls out. While I'd like to give you a refund,
there was almost no profit in this suit, most of the money went to supplies and shipping.
The head, while roomy enough inside for my glasses, had a neck too small for me to fit them..
I'm just able to squeeze my heade inside. The plaster nose cracked and squished during the
shipping I suppose? So the paint is coming off and it's bend out of shape. Not to mention the
visible seams and duct tape. The piercings also aren't very secure and I'm afraid they'll be very
easy to come off with any sort of activity. The teeth are very loose and about to fall out, and we'd
agreed on a moving jaw, mine doesn't move at all. The head also doesn't have a lot of support
either, so the back kind of collapses into looking flat because of that.
Well, at least this tells me to ask for neck circumference while collecting measurements.
The plaster nose is something we're definitely cycling out, as you might know your head is
the third head I'd made, and while the nose worked fine on the first two, it's something
we're already looking to alternatives for. I'm not sure why the jaw isn't moving, it moved
(albeit with limit) before leaving here.
As for the hand paws, I appreciate the remake but the seams are very funny, especially at the
wrist.. it looks like you didn't cut the pattern to narrow and so you had left over fabric which just
makes a weird pooched out area at the wrist. We also agreed on shoulder length paws in our e-
mails. On the hands themselves there is at least one split seam and the arms didn't have spots
like they should. The claws on the remakes stayed on, but I'm not too fond of how they curve over
the fingers instead of sticking out.
Again, these are firsts. As for the shoulder-length paws, yes, that was my mistake - I was
referencing an earlier e-mail while making notes about the suit. However, I wasn't aware
that you had specifications on the types of claws for the hands, and I'm not sure what you
mean by the spots. What was wrong with them?
The feet were a disaster, the soles were off when I opened the package.. They had no real toe
definition and looked just like slippers instead of paws. The claws were comming off of them as
well and one had some weird.. thing... going on with the leg where the fur was turned down and
glued funny..? They fit on my feet, and were the right size at least.
Yes, as mentioned in my previous e-mail, I've already offered to make you a free pair of
feet. That was our first pair, and I wasn't happy with them going into the box and wasn't
expecting you to be happy with them coming out. We've already begun a completely
different style of footpaw that has recieved very positive feedback from the two people
who've tried them out. They'll certainly be used in your remake.
With the tail.. where to start.. No spots, there is a hole in the material, close to the top of the
tail, I can see, and pull out, stuffing from this hole. The extra fur you attatched is comming off and
looks like it was glued on or just lightly sewn. It didn't quite match my pictures either, though I'll
say it's artistic expression.
You approved the tail before it was shipped - the spots are completely my fault and I
apologize. As far as the hole, again, I'm really not sure how that could've happend...
though at this point, I'll accept that if it happend here, it was overlooked and I apologize for
that.
The fur also was not at all the quality I'd expected.. Are you sure it's really CR's fur? If it were
me I'd have sent that stuff back to them... it's very thin and not a nice quality at all.. I was hoping
for something a bit more full and actually fur like.
All in all the suit was not what I had expected.. Artistically the face is well done but the
construction, over all, is shoddy and seems rushed. I don't know if you forgot about the deadline...
or just piled too much up on your plate but this is not what I expected at all. Your other work looks
very nice and I've not heard anything bad about them.. so I'm assuming that maybe this was just
a bad run for your or something. Benifit of the doubt. I hate to sound like a jerk, and I always
dread telling someone that I'm not pleased with something they made for me.. but I can't see
myself getting any use out of the suit the way that it is right now.
Your partial was the very first partial we've ever done - I made sure to mention that as
much as possible, as I didn't want anyone purchasing something expecting professional
quality. At the moment, we're already leaps and bounds away from that and have improved
a great deal - the two full suits and two partials that've gone out this week have recieved
nothing but praise (with a few peices of constructive criticism). While not rushed, a lot of
this was firsts, and with ever first comes experience. As mentioned up there, I'm happy to
remake this for you, but I will need the original back. If you could please resend your
measurements, including neck circumfurence, I'll put you in the que and begin production
as soon as we're further caught up. Thank you for the feedback.
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Like I said, I hate having something negative to say about something like this.. I always
appreciate the work and effort put into a suit or artwork, or anything done for me. I'm not trying to
be an asshole or rude, I know that everyone has to learn and start somewhere, but there are
some mistakes on the suit that seemed very amature and not something that someone offering
commissions should have made? I guess I assumed that if you felt comfortable enough to take on
commissioned work that you must have at least made a few personal suits in the past to have
learned from. I guess I shouldn't have assumed?
As for the wait, I suppose it's not a big issue, though it does cause complications, as I won't be
in the United States anymore by that time... And I really don't want to have to pay some
rediculous shipping fee to have the suit where I am. I suppose I'll cross the bridge when it gets
here. I'll ship it back to you either this weekend or on my next paycheck, can I get a shipping
address please?
As for the tail, it something that had to have happened there, as it was like that when I took it
out of the box. I dunno, maybe it's just the way I work but I wouldn't have sent out something that
I was not personally proud of or at least fairly happy with. I'm not trying to nitpick the thing to
death, but when I send it back, if you really look over it, I'm sure you'll see why I'm complaining. I
am glad your new suits have gotten some nice reviews and that you are finding new, better ways
to build. I hope we can end this on a positive note. If at all possible.. could we try to find a nicer
fur to work with, I will pay for the new material, no problem.. I just didn't particularly care for the
way that fur worked out.
Also, I'll send you the measurements again when I am at home and can take them.
Thank you for the address.. I didn't get any answers to any questions though, especially in
regards to materials, ect.
Also, I thought I'd mention, too, that you might want to look into slightly larger boxes for
shipping? As a lot of the damage seemed to have come from the box being a bit of a tight fit.
Re: Back from FWA

Sent: Wed 3/25/09 1:14 PM
Which questions? The material? Yes I'll be ordering more, directly from CRS as opposed to from
some person on LJ. I'm not sure which other questions didn't get addressed, I think I covered
almost everything in the previous e-mail.
Suit
Sent: Tue 4/28/09 11:40 PM
Hey there, are you still sending the suit back? Your spot in the que is coming up, and if you're still
wanting the replacement, I'll need the original back asap.
ADDRESS REMOVED
Thanks
RE: Suit
Sent: Wed 4/29/09 2:13 AM
Yeah, I just had to make sure my bills were covered, I'll have it mailed by this weekend probably.
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi, sorry I never got a chance to send the suit back to you, financial and family trouble kept me
from being able to do so. I was wondering if I can still send it to you, I know I might have to wait
longer but I have no problem doing that.
I'd also like to ask if some changes in the building material or possible? I just find the plaster
structure to not be very sturdy, I mean just the shipping killed the nose itself and caused the
muzzle to become misshapen. I know you can't control what the post office does to your
packages.. but I think a mainly foam/baklava construction might be a little more durable maybe?
Anyway, please get back in touch and I will mail the package this weekend if that is acceptable.
Re: Suit
Sent: Thu 7/30/09 12:59 AM
That's fine, send it back as soon as possible. We don't use the plaster at all anymore, and haven't
since that suit was made.
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Were you planning to use the same furs for the remake, as I had expressed a bit of dislike in
the fur used, I'm pretty sure that whoever sold you the brown fur sold you plush, not cubby fur, as
it matches textures with other colors of the plush stuff that I have seen.
If possible I am interested in these furs.
http://www.imstuffedfur.com/specials2500page3.html the soft taupe for main body,

http://www.distinctivefabric.com/fabric.php?product=SLDLGHRFUR1 beige for the chest and
inner thighs, and the black on that page for most of the arm, narrowing down into
http://www.distinctivefabric.com/fabric.php?product=SLDSHTFUR&palette=special_order this
black here for the hands and feet paws. I figured we could maybe use this for the
mohawk/mane : http://www.distinctivefabric.com/fabric.php?product=EXTRALONGFUR1 , in the
black as well of course.
The reason I'm asking is because I'm having a body suit made by someone else and would like
the furs to match. If needed I will pay for the new fur so that it can match my full suit.
Re: Suit
Sent: Thu 7/30/09 10:54 PM
As mentioned in previous e-mail, I'll be ordering the fur you requested as soon as I receive the
original partial back, directly from the website as opposed to from random LJ people.
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
I'd really like the furs I linked honestly, I'll pay for it, I just would like it to match the body suit I'm
getting made and those are the furs we have decided on. As stated, I have no issue paying for
the new fur. I'm not trying to be rude here, I just want my whole suit to match up instead of the
head being a different color all together. Thanks.
Re: Suit
Sent: Fri 7/31/09 5:06 PM
Yes, that shouldn't be a problem.
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Package sent with delivery confirmation. Mailed partial post so it might be a week before it gets
there. I shipped it in a good sized box and sent some of the air pillow cushions so you can reuse
the box/cushions when reshipping the remake, this should keep it from getting damaged in
transit. I also opted to mark the box fragile as well, since they told me that it was best to do that,
since sometimes packages get heavy things put ontop of them. I think this is how the muzzle got
crushed last time, since when I got the package the box was kind of dented.
Also, I put my new address on the box, but just for reference it is: ADDRESS REMOVED
Package
Sent: Wed 8/05/09 7:15 PM
To: Lazer Hyena (Decapitated_Morality@hotmail.com)

Fragile.jpg (65.3 KB), Fragile2.jpg (48.5 KB) ((Pictures available in LJ post))
I got the package today, and wanted to show you the condition it arrived in, the pictures are
attached to the e-mail.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if anything, your local USPS handlers are the
ones doing the damage. I've never received a package as badly beaten as this one is - there's
almost literally nothing left of the head at this point. I think when the new one gets shipped, I'd like
to either use UPS or FedEx if possible, because even a better-made head than this would take a
beating from treatment like that.
Needless to say though, it did arrive here, and I'll send you a quote for the fur shortly.
Thanks,
Zim
Re: Suit
Sent: Sun 8/23/09 2:39 PM
Hi there,
I've put together a fur quote for you based on what we need and the amount necessary. Here's
the breakdown below -
http://www.imstuffedfur.com/specials2500page3.html - Soft Taupe - $25 yrd + shipping - 1 1/2

yd
http://www.distinctivefabric.com/fabric.php?product=SLDLGHRFUR1 - Black - $19 yrd + shipping
- 1/2 yd
http://www.distinctivefabric.com/fabric.php?product=SLDSHTFUR&palette=special_order - Black
- $17 yrd - 1 yard
$38 + 12 shipping - 50
8
17 + $8 shipping - 33
___
$83
Please let me know if I've missed anything. If that's correct, please let me know when the
payment is sent and I'll make the order.
Thanks!
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Looks good to me =D I'll send it this weekend when I get paid. Thanks.
PAYMENT SENT : Aug 27, 2009 Payment To Helen Freshcoln

Cleared Details Payment To Helen Freshcoln 5C779085EY0085705
-$83.00 USD
Re: Notification of a Cleared eCheck Payment

Sent: Thu 9/03/09 9:19 PM
To: Decapitated_Morality@hotmail.com (Decapitated_Morality@hotmail.com)
Just lettin you know this cleared, I'ma be outta town til Sunday, but will try to check my e-mail as
much as possible.
Thanks!
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Decapitated_Morality@hotmail.com

<Decapitated_Morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
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On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for getting back to me. I just worry because I have had trouble with paypal in the past
when I had to send payments from work, because of the excessive blocks and firewalls they have
on the work computers. So I just wanted to make sure it got there, that way if it didn't I could
dispute the transaction before too late. Lol. I hope you enjoy whatever you're doing this weekend!
Thanks.
Sent: Fri 9/04/09 12:25 PM
Yeah, I'm gonna have limited access til next week, just in the future send me a Note, it's much
more appropriet than a Shout. I'll let you know when I get back when the raccoon arrives and
what all we can do with em, I have a buncha bright pink fur, we can see if it's the same stuff.
(This is a reference to a head and fur I was going to send as a joint project, but decided
against)
ttyl
On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hello, haven't gotten a reply in about a month.. Can you please just confirm that you bought the
fur. That's all I'm asking. Also, do you need my measurements again? Or do you still have them
saved. I will mention that my head circumfrence with glasses on is 25 1/4", I have big thick framed
glasses. XP
Please send me some sort of responce in regards to the fur. I hope having to shout you on FA
doesn't become the only way I can get a responce.

Sent: Sun 10/04/09 1:50 PM
Hi there!
Sorry, I thought I'd sent you a message awhile back. Yep, the fur was ordered quite awhile back,
however, it hasn't been delivered yet... I sent them a follow-up e-mail awhile back asking about it,
because I'd ordered a few yards for another suit as well from, one that had a due date at the end
of this month. I haven't heard anything back from them, but will let you know when I get a
notification of shipment.
Also, I don't recall if I notified you yet, but we did move just recently. The new address is -
ADDRESS REMOVED

Sent: Wed 10/07/09 3:30 PM
Cute response. If you have a problem with the way our transaction has been going, feel free to
tell me now so we can discuss it. Between comments like that, and having to deal with Growly, it's
getting a little old.
Thanks. ( Email sent in responce to an artist beware post that Zim made, which I left a
passive agressive comment on)
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Sure it was a little bit of a bite, but truthfully I've been dealing with plenty of people lately who
just don't take the time to respond, even when they have time online to upload art or do other
things. I have another suit and 3 pieces of art in limbo with people who'm I have to almost beg for
a responce just to answer a simple question or confirm something. I'm just tired of feeling like I'm
running in circles, just like you are with this girl who won't reply to you but is posting other art and
logging on to FA just to ignore your messages.
I'm sorry if Growly has said anything out of line to you on my part, I never sent anyone to hunt
you down, I simply asked her, as an artist, friend, and a commissioner, what I should do in this
sittuation. I didn't name drop you, but she already knew who made my Lazer suit. I do apologize if
she said anything out of line to you.
I've already expressed to you how much trouble it seems to get in touch with you. If you don't
check your email much and have an alternative form of contact you'd prefer then just let me
know. It is just very irksome not to be able to get in touch with you and to have to worry about my
suit, especially since this fur is in such limited supply, and I'd really like to be able to wear the
partial for FWA '10 since '09 didn't work out and FWA is the only convention I attend.
I won't say my post wasn't a little passive aggressive, but I think, seeing how you feel about
this girl beign so hard to contact, that you might understand why I've been a little miffed, since,
until you replied to me a few days ago, it took a whole month for any responce. I will say that I
never dropped your name in anything I may have said about being upset or miffed. If anyone has
said anything to you it's because they made their own deductions.

Sent: Wed 10/07/09 4:27 PM
Unfortunetly, I've been dealing with trolling from Growly on various fursuit communities (including
her post on this one) ever since you recieved the original suit. It's a little aggrivating seeing as I've
never even met her, or had any form of communication with her prior to this that I can recall.
Honestly, I'm not sure how else you would've liked me to solve the problem with the original suit,
other than what we're doing right now. If you'll look to our previous e-mails, I'd even offered to
cover the cost of the new fur for you when we were discussing this originally, so again, I can help
but feel like the hostility is a little misplaced.
Now, I don't want this to become an argument, but a large part of the reason your replacement
suit is not yet finished is due to the amount of time it took to recieve the old one back. Yes, the fur
was ordered, and yes, I'm STILL waiting for a response from CRS about whether or not they're
going to be able to fill my order. Unfortunetly, there's not much I can do besides continue to
hound them about it.
If you need another way to get in contact with me, my cell phone is REMOVED, texts are
preferred. I would've been happy to give you that information earlier had you requested it, or
expressed that you were unhappy with the way this was playing out.
But yes, now that I've moved into our new place (which, yes, we were without internet off and on
during the course of the past month or so), communication will improve. I just don't appreciate the
snark, and if we're going to continue to do business, it really does need to stop. Feel free to
express your concerns privately, of course, but I do want to keep this professional.
Thanks,
Zim

Oh.. I also wanted to check on your statement.. You mentioned CR's.. but I didn't think I picked
any fur out from CR's.. I had taupe from I'm stuffed, and long pile black and camel and the extra
long pile black from Distinctive Fabrics. I'm assuming that was just a typo but I wanter to make
sure.

Sent: Thu 10/08/09 4:42 PM
Hi there,
Yep, I'd gotten the sites mixed up, it's I'm Stuffed is who I'm waiting on, I got the long pile black
and camel, and extra long pile black, in from Distinctive weeks ago, it's here and ready. It's the
taupe that I'm waiting on, and unfortunetly, it's such a major part of the suit that there's not much I
can get done until it gets here :\ I really wish there was an alternative site to order it from, if you
know of one, please let me know and I'll go ahead and grab it elsewhere and just suck up the
cost.
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
I got a reply from this email address : imstuffedfur@comcast.net and she said that the fur is
available and she must have missed your email, just send her another and she'll process the
order for you.
Re: I'm stuffed order

Sent: Sun 10/11/09 9:20 PM
Awesome, that is friggin great news, I'm gonna e-mail her from a different address incase it's this
one that's a problem.
Thanks for the headsup!
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hey there, just wanted to see how things were going and to make sure you'd not had any more
problems with trying to get in touch with the folks at I'm Stuffed about the order.

Sent: Tue 10/27/09 3:38 PM
Hi there!
Nope, no problems, I got the order in and confirmed and it's heading my way :) Did you want
some pictures of the new foamed head? I don't have a camera here right now, but would be able
to get you some before the end of the week.
Just let me know - thanks!
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hey there, I'm still waiting to here back from you. I've not heard any news or even gotten a
response since October 27th. Could you please just let me know if there is any kind of hold up, or
what the status of my suit is. If you are in some situation where you are unable to work on the
project.. please just respond and let me know. I am not trying to be an asshole or rush you.. I just
think that 2 months is a long time to wait on a response. I've tried to be patient and
understanding.. but it's hard to understand what you do not know.
Are we still looking at completion in time for FWA? That's the only con I go to and would really
like to be able to suit. Did the fur arrive without issue? Did you ever get the progress pictures that
you offered me?
Thank you, I hope to hear from you soon.

Sent: Thu 12/31/09 2:04 AM
Things are progressing, just busy. I'm trying to finish all this furry stuff and get it sent out, yours is
still #1 on the list, I've just moved again, and changed jobs again. As soon as the suits are
finished and shipped, I'm pretty much done with this stuff altogether, I don't plan on leaving
anyone hanging. FWA should still be fine, the fur arrived without issue, I just need to unpack
everything again.
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Thanks so much. I was afraid my e-mails were not reaching you. Would love to see pics when
available, I hope your move went smoothly. I also hope you don't think I'm trying to be an
asshole.. it's just, with Darzi avoiding customers at every turn, I've become a bit paranoid lately.
Thank you so much for responding and I can't wait to see the finished project.

Sent: Thu 12/31/09 2:13 AM
Nono, I understand, things have just been really, insanely hectic here. As far as Darzi goes, I
dont' know what to tell you... I commissioned her early last year with pretty decent results, but
haven't really been in contact with her since. I think I have her on my LJ list though, if you want
me to send a note her way and see if I can get a response.
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hello, this is me making a last ditch attempt to get in touch with you about the fursuit. I really
need this by FWA. If you are unable to finish the product in good quality, in time for the
convention, then at this point I'd rather just have you send me the fur and a refund for the
transaction. I have been very patient and accepting even in situations where it has felt, and been
voiced by others as well, that it seemed like you were avoiding me or ignoring my attempts to
contact you.
I've tried to be understanding of whatever may have come up in your life, and I also understand
that you probably aren't enjoying having to rebuild a whole project. But at the same time, I am a
paying customer and deserve to receive what I paid for.
Please give me some sort of response and evidence that the suit is being made. I am not trying
to sound threatening nor am I trying to boss or bully you around. I just want what I paid for and to
be able to enjoy this fursuit at the one con I attend a year. A response would be appreciated by
3/15 or I will move this transaction to Artist Beware in an attempt to get some contact and closure.
Thank you for your time. Once again, I simply want what is owed me, or some photo evidence
of it's creation. I don't think that is unfair or too much to ask for.
Re: hello, please respond.

Sent: Sat 3/06/10 10:04 AM
It's nearly finished and will be done by FWA.
Can I please get some photos before it is mailed.
My new shipping address is :
REMOVED
Please get some sort of confirmation or insurance, since there have been so many more
shipping horror stories floating about.

Sent: Thu 3/18/10 12:14 PM
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hyena.jpg (32.5 KB) (Picture can be viewed in post.)
this was the most recent picture of it
RE: hello, please respond.

Sent: Thu 3/18/10 7:36 PM
The black goes a little high on the muzzle. o-o It's only supposed to be the end of the muzzle, not
up the face like that. The coloration should really be the same as the original, as far as where the
fur colors are. The only thing wrong with the original was the quality really, the style and fur color
placement were fine.
Here, I am sending this along so maybe it will help : http://www.furaffinity.net/full/3563568/ I

can also send new/better arm measurements, as the last arms had a bit of fitting issue.
Subject: Re: hello, please respond.

From: irkenprodigy@gmail.com
To: decapitated_morality@hotmail.com
Do you want this sent to your address or to the hotel you'll be staying at?
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Urmm. If you don't think it will make it in time for the con then please send it to the Hilton
Atlanta *nods*

Sent: Sun 3/21/10 8:54 PM
It's going out tomorrow, I think sending it out to the con hotel might be the better option.
Hi just wanted to make sure everything was shipped out so I can pick it up when I arrive
tomorrow.
Re: Hi
Sent: Thu 3/25/10 9:32 PM
Yep, everything should be grand, they said it'd be there on Friday.
Awesomesauce, I'll try to email you and let you know it got there fine!
Re: Hi
Sent: Thu 3/25/10 10:30 PM
Alrighty, keep in mind there's two packages, one with the head and handpaws, the other with feet
and tail, due to the size restrictions on mailing out packages from our tiny post office, just make
sure they grab both.
Thanks for the heads up! I'll make sure to tell them to grab both!
Re: Hi
Sent: Fri 3/26/10 12:45 PM
Hi there,
Uh, well, I'm not sure what happend, but the box containing the head and handpaws was
returned to us today. I double-checked the address, and resent it out overnight for you... it's
gaurenteed tomorrow by noon, tracking number is #eg276327272 US
Er.. let me know, I'm not sure why the other one wasn't returned and this one was, I hadn't had
trouble shipping to hotels before.
RE: Hi
Sent: Mon 3/29/10 1:25 PM
I got the head and paws but the feet and tail were never delivered. I am going to contact the hotel
with a forwarding address but it may be returned to you instead. D=
RE: Hi
Sent: Sun 4/11/10 11:38 PM
Hey, I've had no word on the 2nd package, my other package from the Hilton (Some things I left),
has already arrived. If you hear anything please let me know.
RE: Hi
Sent: Mon 4/26/10 6:57 PM
Hey, still haven't seen hide nor hair of the feet and tail. Could you please let me know what's up.
RE: Hi
Sent: Sun 6/13/10 11:03 AM
Hello, I'm trying to contact you once more about the feet and tail for my suit. I have heard hide nor
hair in regards to them since March. I need to know something, please give me some sort of
responce in the next 7 days. Thank you.
RE: Hi
Sent: Tue 6/22/10 12:44 AM
I think I've given you plenty of time to get in touch with me or tell me SOMETHING about the feet
and tail. I am moving this to fursuit reviews and artist beware at this point. If you get back in touch
with me and can provide the remainder of the suit then I will mark this issue resolved.
Re: Hi
Sent: Tue 6/22/10 12:52 AM
I've already remade this stuff for you and sent it out on my dime, I'm sorry if you're unhappy with it
at this point, but there really isn't anything else I can do for you.
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
I never got the tail and feet. I've kept in touch with the hotel and it never showed up there. =/
Also, it's nice of you to completely ignore all my
Re: Hi
Sent: Tue 6/22/10 1:13 AM
If the hotel lost it, I've got nothing to do with that. I've already done these things twice, I've already
sent everything out, both packages were on the same day to the same place, so forgive me if I'm
having a hard time figuring out what you're after. I can't keep redoing the stuff for you, and I really
hate to say it, but if you were expecting professional-level stuff, you probably should've gone with
a professional fursuit maker. I was very clear back when taking these commissions that I was
new, inexperienced and looking for practice. In retrospect, that was an awful idea, and as you can
see, I'm done, I don't care if it goes on Artist Beware, I haven't done anything with furries in two
months and really don't intend to do anything further with them in the future. I don't know what
else you want at this point, sorry.
This isn't about the quality of the items at this point, this is about wanting the rest of my suit.
The hotel didn't loose it, as it never arrived in the first place. I've kept in touch with them and it
never showed up there. If it had they would have returned it to your address, so I have been
assured. I do not see how, when the head was returned and had to be shipped again, that it
would arrive before the feet and tail that were not returned to you. I'm skeptical that they were
sent at all. If you could provide some proof that they were shipped, such as a receipt from the
post office or some sort of trackable information then I would consider this a fluke of the post
office.
Also, AB is not strictly furry, I know lots of nonfurs who visit, but furry or not should not
determine proper business practices.
Re: Hi
Sent: Tue 6/22/10 1:21 AM
I haven't seen the reciept in months, I was under the impression you'd gotten the stuff since I
hadn't heard from you. Yes, the stuff was sent. It wouldn't make a whole lotta sense for me to
waste the money on fur and then not, you know, make the suit with it and finally get rid of this
issue. I'm pretty sure at one point you got progress photos too. So tell me, what in the world is it
you want? I'm not buying more fur, and I really don't have the means to make anything at this
point anyway, so how do you want to solve this?
I have the emails to show where I had attempted to contact you ever since the con was
completed. If you didn't get the emails then I am not at fault for that, as you seem to be getting
these just fine.
At this point I would simply like to be reimbursed for the parts that I didn't get so I can
commission someone to finished the suit. If you need witnesses that I didn't get the items at FWA
then I can put you in touch with all 5 of my room mates as well as the people who saw me wear
the head and paws with my wolf tail because I didn't have the other.
Re: Hi
Sent: Tue 6/22/10 1:34 AM
There's absolutely no way I can reimburse you at the moment. What you've sent me has gone to
buying the materials to make the suit originally, shipping it overnight originally, then rebuying the
material to replace the original suit and shipping out two packages, overnight, twice. Hell, a
majority of what you paid has gone into shipping. If I did make any sort've profit at this point, it
was in the double digits, and if you REALLY want that, I'll let you know next time I get money in
Paypal.
This isn't about your profit margin, this is about the fact that I paid for something and only got
part of it. Thus I feel I have the right to be reimbursed for the part of it that I paid for and did not
receive. I apologize if you made no profit, you are the one who priced your work, I simply paid
what you quoted for an item that I have only gotten half of.
Re: Hi
Sent: Tue 6/22/10 1:46 AM
You got your suit the first time, which you were unhappy with, and I used the rest of what you
paid me to remake it for you. There's nothing else I can do for you at this point. I can break down
the exact cost of everything and show you that there really isn't anything left to refund. Me pricing
my items doesn't have anything to do with it, I made my prices low because, as mentioend
before, these were experimental suits in the first place, something you were very much aware of
back when you requested this commission. I used what I'd normally keep as pay for work to
remake your items. As said already, I've made your items twice, you've received your items twice,
I am not paying something that's either the post office or hotel's fault that I've already done my
best to fix. I'll take the blame for the rest of the issues we've had during this transaction, fine, but I
am not about to pay you again for something I've already paid for twice.
I'm sorry but you didn't remake this out of pocket. I paid for fur again because you didn't order
the fur I wanted the first time and got it from another source. I know you offered to do it out of
pocket but I didn't want you to feel put out so I paid for the new fur. As I stated, please provide
me with some sort of proof that the items were made/shipped and I will consider the matter
dropped, until then I will do what I can on my behalf, within the extent of the proper law and
authority.
Re: Hi
Sent: Tue 6/22/10 1:59 AM
Excuse me? You never sent me money for replacement fur, the funds for that came straight out
of what you originally paid. And yes, at this point I'm saying 'no' to any further work or refunds, but
because it WOULD be out of pocket if I continued remaking this stuff for you. I've made you two
suits, I've sent you two suits, I don't know what else you want at this point, but it's absolutely
ridiculous.
2010/6/22 Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com>
I never asked for another remake, I asked to be refunded for what I didn't get.. and please this
if I didn't pay for the fur:
Re: Suit
Sent: Sun 8/23/09 2:39 PM
Hi there,
I've put together a fur quote for you based on what we need and the amount necessary.
Here's the breakdown below -
http://www.imstuffedfur.com/specials2500page3.html - Soft Taupe - $25 yrd + shipping - 1 1/2

yd
http://www.distinctivefabric.com/fabric.php?product=SLDLGHRFUR1 - Black - $19 yrd +
shipping - 1/2 yd
http://www.distinctivefabric.com/fabric.php?product=SLDSHTFUR&palette=special_order -
Black - $17 yrd - 1 yard
$38 + 12 shipping - 50
8
17 + $8 shipping - 33
___
$83
Please let me know if I've missed anything. If that's correct, please let me know when the
payment is sent and I'll make the order.
Thanks!
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Lazer Hyena <decapitated_morality@hotmail.com> wrote:
Looks good to me =D I'll send it this weekend when I get paid. Thanks.
eCheck Sent (Unique Transaction ID #5C779085EY0085705)
Original Transaction
Date Type Status Details Amount
Aug 27, 2009 Payment To Helen Freshcoln Cleared ... -$83.00 USD
Related Transaction
Date Type Status Details Amount
Aug 27, 2009 Add Funds from a Bank Account Completed Details
$83.00 USD
Your eCheck payment was deposited into the recipient's account on Sep 2, 2009.
Make bank payments instant | What is an eCheck?
Sent to:
Helen Freshcoln
Email:
IrkenProdigy@gmail.com
Total Amount:
-$83.00 USD
Fee amount:
$0.00 USD
Net amount:
-$83.00 USD
Date:
Aug 27, 2009
Time:
17:56:27 PDT
Funding Type:
eCheck
Funding Source:
$83.00 USD - Citizens Bank of Swainsboro Checking (Confirmed) x-1306
Re: Hi
Sent: Tue 6/22/10 2:12 AM
Alright, then I'm mistaken in that regard. If you want the massive pile of scraps from the remake,
I'll send you that.
RE: Hi
Sent: Tue 6/22/10 2:32 AM
No, really I'd prefer a refund for the feet and tail, I don't know what I'd do with scraps of fur that
may, or may not be of any use in making the remainder of the suit, or of a size that anything
could be made of them. The original issue is still that I paid of a suit and got half of one. the
original was unusable, and you yourself admitted that you did not feel the original was good or up
to your standards... so, even though I knew it wouldn't be professional quality, I think if even you
admit that you thought the original was below standards, then counting it as me having already
gotten what I paid for is a bit BS.

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From: IrkenProdigy (irkenprodigy@gmail.com)

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For your measurements, if I could get -

brow = 24" with glasses, 22" without

arm length = 25" from under arm to tip of middle finger.

Hand from wrist to middle finger = 7"

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But yes, I do have some more refs :

He also has black pawpads too.

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Hope that helps, if there's anything else just let me know! :)

If any of these appeal to you, please let me know :

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Thanks a bunch, I'll keep you updated as things progress~!

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Thanks so much for the update! =D

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Just let me know when you have a chance - thanks a bunch!

Anyway, can't wait to see more pictures! This is awesome.

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