17.

Documentation for Jane Eliza Baird

(10 Aug 1835 to May 03, 1914)
mother of James Grant Older
(Mar 14, 1864 to Mar 31, 1946)
Jane Eliza Baird was born 10 August 1835, in Ohio.(1) She was the daughter of
James Baird and Eliza Pergrin (Pergrun)(2) James Baird was born 15 February 1806 in
Zanesville, Ohio. He married Eliza Pergrin (Pergrun) 10 April 1828, probably in
Chillicothe or Lancaster, Ohio. Eliza Pergrin was born 29 May 1801 or 1802 in
Virginia.(3) According to census records, Eliza was born about 1801 in Virginia.(5)
James Baird Jr. probably was born in Ohio about 1802 based on census records.(6)
The James Baird Jr household appears in the 1850 Federal Census for Ohio, Ross
County, Bourneville.(7) James Beard is listed as age 45, a butcher, born in Ohio. Eliza
Beard is listed as age 48 and born in Virginia. Jane E (Eliza) Beard is listed as age 15 and
born in Ohio. Also listed as living in the Beard household in 1850 is Albert Myers, age 5,
who was born in Ohio and attended school during the year.
Jane Eliza Baird married Samuel Clarence Older on August 14, 1856, in Ross
County, Ohio.(8) Samuel Clarence Older was born January 15, 1837, in Ontario, Canada,
the son of George Older and Sarah Gilbert.(9)
Samuel Clarence Older and Jane Eliza Baird were the parents of Rose Older and
James Grant Older.(10) Anna Rosebelle Older was born July 26, 1862, in Illinois. She
married John H. Butner, February 27, 1883, in Vermilion County, Illinois.(11) She died
February 28, 1942. James Grant Older was born March 14, 1864, in Mechanicsburg,
Illinois and died Mar 31, 1946, in Dearborn, Michigan. He married Wilhelmina
Fredericka Lorenz May 21, 1885, in Danville, Vermilion Co., Illinois.(12)
The 1860 Illinois Federal Census for Sangamon County, Mechanicsburg Post
Office, District #16, enumerated August 6th, lists the S. C. Older household.(13) S. C.
Older is listed as a male, 23 years old. His place of birth is given as Canada, and his
occupation is that of broom maker. Also residing in the household are: J. E. Older, age
24, female, who was born in Ohio; James Baird, 54 years old, male, butcher, born in
Ohio; Eliza Baird, 58 years old, female, born in Virginia; Henrietta Drury, age 17,
female, born in Ohio; and Albert Baird, age 14, male, born in Ohio. Albert Baird
probably was the Albert Myers listed in the 1850 census for this household. The
occupation of butcher listed for James Baird in the 1860 census is consistent with the
occupation listed for him in the 1850 census.
The 1870 Illinois Federal Census, Vermilion County, Danville Township, dated
July 4, by James A. Davis, lists Samuel Older as age 34, a broom maker who was born in
Canada. His wife, Eliza, is listed as age 36, a housekeeper born in Ohio. Two children,
Rose, age 8, born in Illinois, and James, age 6, born in Illinois, also are listed in the
household.(14)
The 1880 Illinois Federal Census for Vermilion County, Germantown, Post Office
Danville, enumeration district 208, lists Samuel Older as age 43, a painter who was born
in Canada. Both of his parents are listed as born in England. Eliza Older is listed as age
46, born in Ohio. Her father is listed as born in Ohio and her mother is listed as born in
Virginia. Rosa, age 17, a daughter, is shown as born in Illinois, her father is listed as
born in Canada and her mother as born in Ohio. James, age 16, a son, is listed as an
apprentice painter who was born in Illinois. His father was born in Canada and his
mother was born in Ohio.(15)

The 1890 Federal Census records were lost in a fire and cannot help identify the
whereabouts of Samuel C. Older in 1890. The Peoria, Illinois City Directory lists a Samuel
Older at 2019 S. Adams, Peoria, Illinois, a painter, for the years 1890 and 1891.(16)
"Jane Eliza Baird Older married David B. Wire on 18 Feb 1896 in Vermilion Co.,
IL.(17) David Wire was a Civil War soldier. He enlisted in Co. G, 28th Illinois Infantry,
and claimed a pension on his service.(18) On January 15, 1898 David B. Wire filled out a
questionnaire for the Bureau of Pensions. Jane, his wife of two years appears to be an
after thought:

First. Are you married If so, please state your wife's full name and her maiden name
Answer: Mary E. Goodner Dead
...
Fourth. Were you previously married? If so, please state the name of your former wife
and the date and place of her death or divorce
Answer: No wife died 1892 Vermilion County Indiana

Fifth. Have you any children living? If so, please state their names and the dates of their
birth
Answer. Viola born Dec 1860 Mahala born Sept 5, 1863 Etha E born Feb 25, 1865
Alexander born Feb 1867

Present wife Jane E. Living now [emphasis is mine]

When asked if he was married he indicated that his wife was dead, and then as an after
thought mentioned that he did have a wife named Jane who was living! There was no
additional reference to Jane in the pension file."(19)
Eliza Wire (or Weir) is listed in the James G. Older household in the 1900 U. S.
Census for Indiana, Vigo County, city of Terre Haute.(20) Her relationship to the head
of the household is given as mother. The month and year of her birth are given as
August 1836. Her age is listed as 63. Her state of birth is given as Ohio and the state of
birth of both of her parents is listed as Ohio. Eliza Older does not appear in the James
G. Older household in the 1910 U. S. Census for Illinois, Macon County, city of
Decatur.(21)
Jane Eliza Baird died in (?3?) May 1911 (?1914?) and is buried in the Munford
Cemetery in Covington, Tennessee.(22) The date of death of Samuel Clarence Older is
not known. We could assume he died before 18 February 1896 when Jane Eliza Baird
Older remarried. The place of death and the place of burial is not known for Samuel
Clarence Older.

Children (Older), born in Illinois:

i. Anna Rosebelle, born July 26, 1862; died February 28, 1942
ii. James Grant, born March 14, 1864, in Mechanicsburg; died March 31, 1946
 ORIGINAL SOURCE MATERIAL to support the RELATIONSHIP between
JANE ELIZA BAIRD and her son JAMES GRANT OLDER
1) Illinois Marriage Records, James Grant Older and Minnie F. Lorenz, married
May 21, 1885, in Danville, Vermilion County, Illinois. Volume V, Vermilion County, IL,
Marriages, Vermilion County Court Records, Film #1298746:1298749. Lists S. C. Older
as father and Elisa Baird as mother.
2) Marriage license for Samuel Clarence Older and Jane Eliza Baird, August 11,
1856, Ross County, Ohio. Marriage solomized by Samuel J. Durham on August 14, 1856.
Volume G3, Page 247.
3) 1860 U. S. Census for Illinois, Sangamon County, Post Office - Mechanicsburg,
Page 347, District No. 16, enumerated August 6, 1860, by J. H. Currier, Dwelling #2467,
Family #2467, S. C. Older, age 23, male, Broom Maker, personal property = $100, born
in Canada, J. E. Older, age 24, female, born in Ohio, over 20 years of age and cannot
read or write, James Baird, age 54, male, Butcher, real estate = $75, born in Ohio, over 20
years of age and cannot read or write, Eliza Baird, age 58, female, born in Virginia,
Henrietta Drury, age 17, female, born in Ohio, Albert Baird, age 14, male, born in Ohio.
4) 1862 and 1863 Military Census for Sangamon County, Illinois, page 68, Town
of Mechanicsburg, County of Sangamon, Illinois, page 73, #256. Older, Samuel C. is
listed as age 25, born in Canada, a farmer. Page 76 shows the total Enrolled for the town
as 377 with 121 already Volunteered for service. The census probably listed male
citizens between the ages of 18 and 45.
5) 1870 U. S. Census for Illinois, Vermilion County, Danville Township, Post
Office - Danville, page number 15, enumerated July 4, 1870, by James A. Davis,
Dwelling 124, Family 123, Samuel Older, age 34, male, white, Broom Maker, born in
Canada, male citizen of U. S. 21 years old, Eliza Older, age 36, female, white, keeping
house, born in Ohio, Rose Older, age 8, female, white, born in Illinois, father foreign
born, James Older, age 6, male, white, born in Illinois, father foreign born.
6) 1880 U. S. Census for Illinois, Vermilion County, Village of Germantown, Roll
T9_255, Family History Film 1254255, Page 290D, Enumeration District 208, Image 0069,
Dwelling 284, Family 305, Samuel Older, white, male, age 43, married, painter, born in
Canada, parents born in England, Eliza Older, white, female, age 46, wife, married, at
home, born in Ohio, father born in Ohio, mother born in Virginia, Rose Older, white,
female, age 17, daughter, single, at home, born in Illinois, father born in Canada, mother
born in Ohio, James Older, white, male, age 16, son, apprentice to painter, born in
Illinois, father born in Canada, mother born in Ohio.
7) James G. Older, Minnie, Roy, Nellie, Maybelle, and James' mother Eliza (Baird)
(Older) Wire are listed in the 1900 U. S. Census for Indiana, Vigo County, Terre Haute,
Harrison Township, Ward #8, enumerated June 2, 1900, house number 1658, dwelling
number 51, and family number 52.
8) There probably is an obituary for James Grant Older in the Danville Commercial
News shortly after March 31, 1946, his date of death.
9) There should be a Death Certificate for James Grant Older, either in Detroit or
Dearborn, Michigan, or possibly in Danville, Illinois.
10) There may be an obituary in a newspaper and a death certificate for Jane
Eliza Baird. According to Sarah Hamer Chumney, Jane Eliza Baird died on (?3?) May
1911 (?1914?) and is buried in the Munford Cemetery in Covington, Tennessee. She was
living with her daughter, Annabelle, at the time.
 REFERENCES

1. Source not known. Probably obtained from Janet Zillman Shinkle, daughter of Wilma
Jane Older Zillman. Wilma Jane Older was a granddaughter of James Grant Older, a
son of Samuel Clarence Older and Jane Eliza Baird Older.

2A. BAIRD FAMILY from Helen Culbreath Hamers handwritten notes from
information her Grandmother Anna or Mother Gertrude passed on to her.
James Baird (b. 1806) in Ohio - Zanesville Originally in Scotch Highland
Orangeman (?)
Eliza Pergrin (b. 1802) (Va) wife of James Baird (Married in Ohio or
Pennsylvania)
Children: Thomas Baird (b. 1828 - died young); Martha Noble Baird (b.
1832)-- who married William McKenzie--Jane Eliza (b. 1835 1911) (Her name
was Elizabeth Jane Baird)
Martha married William McKenzie and they moved to Edinburgh, Illinois.
They had 3 children--William, Jr., Laura and Alice who married ___Beck. They
moved to Table Rock, Nebraska and were there in 1920 when Anna Older Roby
visited there. They had two boys and one girl.
"Allie" as Anna called her was probably older than Anna Roby but they
corresponded thru the years.
A note says: Thomas Harlan Baird married Maria Louise King (sister? Of
Aunt Jane King) whose hair Grandma Older had on a paper with some others.
Also there is a note that lists: James, Henrietta & Elizabeth (old maids) (scotch).
Nancy Baird (Black)

An old newspaper clipping shows that Mrs. John A. Black was a cousin to
Eliza Older. The Blacks lived at Marshall, Illinois when the Olders were living in
Danville and Eliza saw the name in the paper and contacted the cousin. They
were reunited with a dinner party at Mrs. Blacks home. Erastus Baird & family
and Mrs. Sallie Baird attended also.

2. 1850 Ohio Federal Census for Ross County, Union township, city of Bourneville,
enumerated September 25th, page 358, roll M432_725. Household of James Beard, age
45, male, butcher, birthplace Ohio; Eliza Beard, age 48, female, born in Virginia; Jane E.
Beard, age 15, female, birthplace Ohio; Albert Myers, age 5, male, born in Ohio.

3. Ohio, Adams County, Marriage Records, Anderson, Eliza, Baird, James, Jr., Aug 16,
1827.

4. Not used.

5. 1850 Ohio Federal Census, Ross County, Union township, city of Bourneville.

6. Ibid.

7. 1850 Ohio Federal Census, Ross County, Union township, city of Bourneville.
8. Ross County, Ohio, marriage records, Samuel Older and Jane Eliza Baird, August 14,
1856.

9. The Descendants of Samuel Older by Susan L. Bingler, copyrighted February 2000.

10. Illinois Marriage Records, James Grant Older and Minnie F. Lorenz, married May
21, 1885, in Danville, Vermilion County, Illinois. Volume V, Vermilion County, IL,
Marriages, Vermilion County Court Records, Film #1298746:1298749, lists S. C. Older
and Elisa Baird as his parents; Illinois Marriage Records, John N. Butner and Rosabelle
Older, married February 27, 1883, Vermilion County, Illinois; 1870 Illinois Federal
Census, Danville Township, Vermilion County, enumerated July 4, 1870; 1880 Illinois
Federal Census, Village of Germantown, Vermilion County; 1900 U. S. Census for
Indiana, Vigo County, Terre Haute, Harrison Township, Ward #8, enumerated June 2,
1900, house number 1658, dwelling number 51, and family number 52, James Older
head of household.

11. Illinois Marriage Records, John N. Butner and Rosabelle Older, married February 27,
1883, Vermilion County, Illinois.

12. Illinois Marriage Records, James Grant Older and Minnie F. Lorenz, married May
21, 1885, in Danville, Vermilion County, Illinois. Volume V, Vermilion County, IL,
Marriages, Vermilion County Court Records, Film #1298746:1298749.

13. 1860 Illinois Federal Census for Sangamon County, Mechanicsburg Post Office,
District #16, enumerated August 6th.

14. 1870 Illinois Federal Census, Vermilion County, Danville Township, dated July 4, by
James A. Davis.

15. 1880 Illinois Federal Census for Vermilion County, Germantown, Post Office
Danville, enumeration district #208.

16. Peoria, Illinois, City Directory, 1890 and 1891, Samuel Older.

17. Jane Eliza Baird Older Entry, Vermilion County, Illinois marriages v. 3 p. 100.

18. Civil War Soldiers and Sailors System, National Park Service, David B. Wire, 28th
Illinois Infantry, Union, Company G, Soldier's Rank_In - Private, Soldier's Rank_Out -
Private, Film Number M539 roll 99.

19. Bingler, Susan L., CGRS, Samuel Older of Sussex, England and His descendants in
America, draft version, June 2005, page 35.

20. 1900 U. S. Census for Indiana, Vigo County, city of Terre Haute, James Older
household.
21. 1910 U. S. Census for Illinois, Macon County, city of Decatur, Decatur Township,
Ward #6, enumerated April 21, 1910, enumeration district #117, Sheet 10 A, house
number 1657, dwelling number 226, and family number 271.

22. Sarah Hamer Chumney.

1850 Federal Census for Ohio, Ross County, Bourneville, enumerated September 25, 1850,
Page 358, Roll M432_725

Dwelling 719, Family 720

James Beard, age 45, male, butcher, born in Ohio
Eliza Beard, age 48, female, born in Virginia
Jane E Beard, age 15, female, born in Ohio
Albert Myers, age 5, male, born in Ohio, attended school during the year
1860 U. S. Census for Illinois, Sangamon County, Post Office - Mechanicsburg, Page 347,
District No. 16, enumerated August 6, 1860, by J. H. Currier
Dwelling #2467, Family #2467
1860 U. S. Census for Illinois, Sangamon County, Post Office - Mechanicsburg, Page 347,
District No. 16, enumerated August 6, 1860, by J. H. Currier
Dwelling #2467, Family #2467
S. C. Older, age 23, male, Broom Maker, personal property = $100, born in Canada
J. E. Older, age 24, female, born in Ohio, over 20 years of age and cannot read or write
James Baird, age 54, male, Butcher, real estate = $75, born in Ohio, over 20 years of age and cannot
read or write
Eliza Baird, age 58, female, born in Virginia
Henrietta Drury, age 17, female, born in Ohio
Albert Baird, age 14, male, born in Ohio
1870 U. S. Census for Illinois, Vermilion County, Danville Township, Post Office - Danville,
page number 15, enumerated July 4, 1870, by James A. Davis

Dwelling 124, Family 123

Samuel Older, age 34, male, white, Broom Maker, born in Canada, male citizen of U. S. 21 years old
Eliza Older, age 36, female, white, keeping house, born in Ohio
Rose Older, age 8, female, white, born in Illinois, father foreign born
James Older, age 6, male, white, born in Illinois, father foreign born
1880 U. S. Census for Illinois, Vermilion County, Germantown, Roll T9_255,
Family History Film 1254255, Page 290D, Enumeration District 208, Image 0069

Dwelling 284, Family 305

1880 U. S. Census for Illinois, Vermilion County, Village of Germantown, Roll T9_255,
Family History Film 1254255, Page 290D, Enumeration District 208, Image 0069

Dwelling 284, Family 305

Samuel Older, white, male, age 43, married, painter, born in Canada, parents born in England
Eliza Older, white, female, age 46, wife, married, at home, born in Ohio, father born in Ohio,
mother born in Virginia
Rose Older, white, female, age 17, daughter, single, at home, born in Illinois, father born in
Canada, mother born in Ohio
James Older, white, male, age 16, son, apprentice to painter, born in Illinois, father born in Canada,
mother born in Ohio
1900 United States Census, Indiana, Terre Haute, Harrison Township, Ward #8, enumerated June 2, 1900, by William L. Canary,
enumeration district 119, page 3B
house number 1658, dwelling number 51, family number 52,

Older, James G., head, white, male, March 1864, age 36, born in Ohio, father born in England, mother born in Ohio, painter, can
read, can write, can speak English, rent, house
Older, Minnie, wife, white, female, born March 1867, age 33, born in Illinois, father born in Germany, mother born in Germany, can
read, can write, can speak English
Older, Roy, son, white, male, born February 1886, age 14, born in Illinois, father born in Ohio, mother born in Illinois, attended
school 9 months, can read, can write, can speak English
Older, Nella, daughter, white, female, born March 1889, born in Illinois, father born in Ohio, mother born in Illinois, attended
school 9 months, can read, can write, can speak English
Older, Mable, daughter, white, female, born November 1892, born in Illinois, father born in Ohio, mother born in Illinois,
attended school, 9 months
Weir (Wire), Eliza, mother, white, female, born August 1834, age 63, married, mother of three children, two of these children now
living, born in Ohio, father born in Ohio, mother born in Ohio, can read, can write, can speak English
JANE ELIZA BAIRD (#17), MOTHER OF JAMES GRANT OLDER

Curt, I had planned to do four files today. Unfortunately, I did Janes file first, coming to
some conclusions that I wouldnt have come to, if I had read Samuels file first. Therefore,
I had to do some re-evaluating. This is because some of the data relating to Janes possible
BAIRD parents were in Samuels file, instead of Janes.

Therefore, my first suggestion is that your footnotes in Samuels file relating to the
BAIRD research, should be moved to Janes file. Here I am referring specifically to
footnotes 22, 23, 24, and 25. These relate not to Samuel Clarence Older, but to Jane Eliza
Baird, his wife, and much of the material is not in her file at all. I will talk more about
Janes parents in her file later in this report.

JANE ELIZA BAIRD (#17)

This report is a nice example of how consistent census reports can be used
as proof of parentage, even without one other definitive document that names
Jane Eliza as the daughter of James Baird and Eliza!

First paragraph: You state that James and Eliza Baird are believed to be
buried in the Minonk Township Cemetery and cite the cemetery index. That
pretty much guarantees that they are buried there otherwise, how would the
indexs compiler have known the names? The main problem is if this is the
correct James and Eliza! Perhaps the 1831 date is a transcriptional error for
1801. You might want to say that they are listed as buried in the cemetery,
rather than believed to be, which sort of casts a doubt on their burial location.

NOTE: There seems to be quite a bit of conflicting data I am completely befuddled by

footnote #22 in Samuel Clarence Olders file! Are you saying that James Baird, born
1764, and Mary Robinson, died 1849, are the parents of James Baird, Jr.? I think all
references to the BAIRDS should be in THIS file, not in Samuels. If you will turn to
footnote #22 in Samuels file, just a couple of minor points. On the first line, the
c in Guernsey County should be capitalized. Also, about _ of the way through
this footnote, there is an odd explamation point just before the word source.

Now, back to Jane Eliza.

Its a shame that Jane Eliza Bairds marriage license doesnt give her
parents names, but her census reports are almost entirely consistent with her
being the daughter of James and Eliza Baird. First of all, you have her in her
parents household in the 1850 census. That census reports states that her father
was born Ohio and her mother in Virginia, two diverse locations. Lets go next to
the 1860 census, where fortunately James and Eliza Baird, born in Ohio and
Virginia respectively, are living with daughter Jane Eliza Older and her husband
Samuel! Again, the birthplaces of James and Eliza are consistent with the 1850
census. Leaping ahead to the 1880 census, Eliza states that her father was born in
Ohio and her mother in Virginia. A perfect match with the 1850 birth place
locations. The match is not quite so perfect in the 1900 census, but James G.
Older, Jane Elizas son, most probably gave that information to the census taker,
since she was living in his household. That record gives both Elizas parents as
born in Ohio. James may not have known that his grandmother was born in
Virginia.

If you are able to locate this family in 1840, they would have at least one
daughter age approximately five years. .

Of course, there is also the matter of Jane Elizas name her mothers
name was also Eliza! Speaking of names, Jane Elizas only son was named
James, her fathers name. Another nice match.

Where the paragraph begins Jane Eliza Baird Older married David B.
Wire if this is all one big quote from Susan L. Bingler (footnote 19), I would
put a space between the start of this and the end of the preceding paragraph that
discusses the 1890 census. That would set it off better as a quote. Also, I would
move this sentence from the end of your narrative to a spot immediately before
the discussion of Jane Elizas remarriage: The date of death of Samuel Clarence
Older is not known. We can assume he died before February 18, 1896, when Jane
Eliza Baird Older remarried. This would make the narrative flow better and
lead nicely into the part about her second marriage. (It was so abrupt, I couldnt
figure out what happened to Samuel!)

You are correct poor Jane Eliza does indeed sound like an afterthought
in her second spouses deposition. That was most interesting!

In the very last sentence, technically her name is Jane Eliza Baird Older
Wire.

CONCLUSION: Proof of the parentage of Jane Eliza Baird has been established
through census reports showing her within her parents household in 1850; they
are in her and her husbands household in 1860; the parents birthplaces (Ohio
and Virginia) are also repeated consistently in the 1880 census for Jane Eliza.
Additionally, she is named for her mother and her only son is named for her
father (not proof of itself, but certainly more than coincidence). She is definitely
the daughter of a James and Eliza Baird, James being born in Ohio and Eliza, in
Virginia, based on these census reports, especially the 1850 and 1860 listings.

HOWEVER based on the info regarding Baird families in Samuel C. Olders

new file, it is not yet possible to determine if the James and Eliza Baird in the
1870 Woodford Co., IL census (later buried in the Minonk Cemetery) are the
right couple, since this Eliza seems to have been born in Pennsylvania. I suspect
that they are the right people, but it needs more evidence.