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Greek Nuggets or Fool's Gold?


The Truth about the Agape-Phileo Myth
by Herb Evans

Bible believers are constantly bombarded by Greek experts, who claim to have special insight to the hidden nuggets of the Greek N.T., which
cannot be found in the plain, ordinary English of the King James Bible. Most believers, not proficient in the Greek, may lack a refuting authority
for such claims.

Fortunately, most Bible believers are wisely either skeptical or suspicious regarding that which they cannot read, trusting only in that which
they can read, thus escaping the pitfalls of blindly following after the claims of the new age Rosicrucians [Rosicrucians were a sect of occult fanatics who
sprung up in Germany in the fourteenth century].

Just as the King James Bible is rich in synonyms (purposely according to its translators), the Greek N.T. is also rich in synonyms. Both Greek
and English synonyms fit into different contexts or blend into the rhythm of the text more suitably than others. Sometimes, one Greek word is
translated by more than one English synonym; at other times, multiple Greek synonyms are retranslated by one English word.

W.E. Vine, Bible Corrector First Class, confesses, and admits, regarding the Greek word for "love" (AGAPAO), "enquiry into its use
(AGAPAO), whether in Greek literature or in the Septuagint throws but little light upon its distinctive meaning in the N.T." In other words any
distinction must be found within the N.T., for it cannot be found in other Greek literature.

It is not always easy to confine Bible correctors to the scriptures. Thank you, Mr. Vine!

The following passages test both the Greek Bible teachers/experts' honesty and accuracy, as they claim there is a radical distinction between
the Greek noun "AGAPE" & the Greek verb "AGAPAO" as opposed to the Greek verb "PHILEO," all translated "love" in the King James Bible,
(with the exception of where the Greek noun "AGAPE" is translated "charity").

AGAPE (noun) and AGAPAO (verb)

"I loved ('AHAB) Jacob." - Malachi 1:2

"Jacob have I loved (AGAPAO)" - Romans 9:13

"Thou shalt love (AGAPAO) the Lord thy God with all thy heart . . . Thou shalt love (AGAPAO) thy neighbour as thyself." - Matthew
22:37-39

"thou shalt love ('AHAB) thy neighbour as thyself." - Leviticus 19:18

"thou shalt love ('AHAB) the LORD thy God with all thine heart." - Deuteronomy 6:5

"Demas hath forsaken me having loved (AGAPAO) this present world." - 2 Timothy 4:10

"men loved (AGAPAO) darkness rather than light." - John 3:19

"For they loved (AGAPAO) the praise of men more than the praise of God." - John 12:43

"sinners also love (AGAPAO) those that love them." - Luke 6:32

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The theories, which we have heard regarding the word "AGAPE" (which some tell us is the highest form of love) are many, i.e., selfless love,
intimate love, moral love, spiritual love, Christian love.

Could Demas actually have had a selfless or spiritual or Christian or moral love for this present world? Is it possible for sinners to have the
same kind of selfless, moral, spiritual love that saved people have?

Can darkness (John 3:19), praise of men (John 12:43), masters (Matthew 6:4),the world (1 John 2:15; 2 Timothy 4:10)nations (Luke 7:5),
creditors (Luke7:42), wages of unrighteousness (2 Peter 2:15), life (1 Peter 3:10) be loved in such away?

Strong tells us that the Hebrew word for love, "'AHAB" (Leviticus 19:18), means "to have affection for (sexually or otherwise). . ."Could
Matthew (Matthew 22:37-39) have mis-rendered the Hebrew word for "love" of God and one's neighbour? Or is the "original" Hebrew word for
"love" in error (for one's neighbor - Leviticus 19:18 or for God -Deuteronomy 6:5 or for women - 2 Samuel 13:1; 1 Kings 11:1; 2 Chronicles
26:10)? Could Paul have mis-rendered the Hebrew word for love regarding Jacob (Malachi 1:2 and Romans 9:13)? Are the Hebrew and the English
words for love too inclusive and in need of correction?

PHILEO

"the Father himself loveth (PHILEO) you, because ye have loved (PHILEO) me." - John 16:27

"If any man love (PHILEO) not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema." - 1 Corinthians 16:22

"For the Father loveth (PHILEO) the Son." - John 5:20

"Greet them that love (PHILEO) us in the faith." - Titus 3:15

We are told by the Greek experts that the Greek word "PHILEO" means only a casual or friendly type of love. Does God love the saints
casually because they love His Son casually? Should we love our brothers in the faith casually? Should we love the Lord Jesus Christ casually?
Does the Father love the Son or us casually? Is love in the faith casual?

PUZZLING GREEK CROSS-REFERENCES

"Then Peter . . .seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved (AGAPAO)" - John 21:20 (19:26; 21:7)

"She. . .cometh . . .to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved (PHILEO)" - John 20:2

"For whom the Lord loveth (AGAPAO) he chasteneth." - Hebrews 12:6

"As many as I love (PHILEO), I rebuke and chasten" - Revelation 3:19

"ye love (AGAPAO) the uppermost seats in the synagogues, and greetings in the markets." - Luke 11:43

"love (PHILEO) greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues" - Luke 20:46

Why would John tell us that Jesus loved that disciple intimately, deeply, selflessly, and spiritually in one place but tell us in another that Jesus
loved him only casually? Why would Luke tell us that the Pharisees loved "greetings" and "uppermost seats" in the synagogue intimately, deeply,
selflessly, morally, or spiritually in one place but tell us in another place that they only loved these things casually?

IS PHILEO LOVE OR AGAPE LOVE "BROTHERLY" LOVE?

"But as touching brotherly love (Philadelphia) . . . ye yourselves are taught of God to love (AGAPAO) one another." - 1 Thessalonians
4:9

"obeying the truth. . . unto unfeigned love of the brethren (Philadelphia), see that ye love (AGAPAO) one another." - 1 Peter 1:22

If our Bible correcting friends are correct, it would seem that the word for brotherly love or love for the brethren would be based on the higher,
more intimate, deep, selfless, spiritual Greek word "AGAPAO," rather than on the casual Greek word "PHILEO, "but this is not the case. But then,
King James Onlys are ignorant and don't understand.

Or do we?

AGAPE or PHILEO Thou Me?

"Jesus saith to Simon Peter. . . lovest (AGAPAO) thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love
(PHILEO) thee...He saith to him again the second time . . . lovest (AGAPAO) thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thoughtless that
I love (PHILEO) thee. . . He saith unto him the THIRD time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest (PHILEO) thou me? Peter was grieved
because he said unto him the THIRD time, Lovest (PHILEO) thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou
knowest that I love (PHILEO) thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep." - John 21:15-17

Self styled Greek expositors go bonkers with this passage, seeking to get something out of the passage that is not there, while they miss the
main point that Peter was asked this question three times because he denied his Lord three times. Their idea, however, is that Jesus was asking
Peter, with the higher Greek word (AGAPAO), if he loved Him deeply and intimately. Supposing that Jesus thought Peter fudged by using the

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lower Greek love word (PHILEO), Jesus repeated the question three times to Peter.

But Bible correctors have missed something. . .

It says that Jesus said to Peter the "THIRD TIME, Lovest (PHILEO) thou me?" Now, poor ignorant Bible believers understand this to mean
that the first and second time were the same as the third time. Either the Greek matching words are in error or it doesn't make a hill of beans worth
a difference which Greek words, "AGAPAO" or "PHILEO," are used in either place. Selah!

END OF ARTICLE

KING JAMES VERSION "ERRORS" IN DEFENSE OF ERASMUS


1 JOHN 5:7 - KJV "ERRORS" OLD TESTAMENT TEXTS
RETURN TO THE OLD PATHS APOCRYPHA
Biblical English of The KJV 1611 "Archaic Words"? SEPTUAGINT
GOT MORALS ? KJV VOCABULARY "Archaic Words"?
LUCIFER: ANGEL OF LIGHT - FATHER OF LIES SPIRITUAL ADULTERY
KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE FACTS IN AWE OF THY WORD
QUESTIONS FOR THE KJV CRITICS NEW AGE BIBLE VERSIONS
ANOTHER BIBLE - ANOTHER GOSPEL THE SEVEN SEALS OF THE HOLY BIBLE
KJV 1611 - THE MYTH OF EARLY REVISIONS ANCIENT BIBLE VERSIONS
KJV 1611 - ONLINE PHOTOGRAPHIC COPY OF ORIGINAL ONE BAPTISM, ONE GOD
THE NAME OF GOD Jehovah or Yahweh ?
THE SPIRIT AND THE WORD AGREES
HOLY BIBLE TITLE PAGES (& 1611 KJV Gothic print)
FOLLOW THE LAMB OR FOLLOW THE MAN
IS HELL REAL ?
GNOSTICISM and CHRISTIANITY
THE CATHOLIC PRIESTHOOD (by a former priest)
BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS
EXPOSING THE PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE FALLACY
IMPORTANT MESSAGE TO VISITORS
THE SECRET RAPTURE FOX's BOOK of MARTYRS
TESTIMONY OF THE REFORMERS KING JAMES AUTHORIZED VERSION: VIDEO

Question:
What do Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormonism, Scientology, Free Masonry and Catholicism all have in common?

Answer:
They all teach that you cannot fully trust nor believe the Holy Bible; and that you must put your faith in their theologies, traditions,
customs and rituals in order to please God and have everlasting life.

AUTHENTIC KING JAMES VERSION HOLY BIBLES PRINTED BETWEEN 1611 and 2004
Comparing the Texts of these early KJV Bibles with a modern un-corrupt KJV shows that the Authorized Version of 1611 has
never gone through a single Textual Revision and proves that God has indeed kept his promise to preserve his pure word.

THE HOLY BIBLE, Printed in 1611


Seeing its readings proves to cynics that the KJV's text has never been "revised" and is identical to that used today
(except for the rare 1611 typographical slips which were shortly thereafter fixed by King James translators themselves).

THE HOLY BIBLE, Printed in 1637 THE HOLY BIBLE, Printed in 1829

THE HOLY BIBLE, Printed in 1772 THE HOLY BIBLE, Printed in 1872

THE HOLY BIBLE, Printed in 1787 THE HOLY BIBLE, Printed in 1903

THE HOLY BIBLE, Printed in 2004

You can now purchase a 1611 King James Version 400th Anniversary Edition at a very low price. Published by Zondervan this is an exact, page-by-page,
digitally re-mastered replica of the original 1611 printing, re-sized to a convenient 8.1 x 5.7 x 3 inches, and contains the original Old English Black Letter font.

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Compare these scripture verses, John 14:16, John 16:7, I Corinthians 1:18, II Corinthians 2:15, Revelation 1:18 and Revelation 20:13,14, in modern bible
versions such as the NIV and the NKJV and you will see that the KJV's superior "Comforter" has been replaced by a subordinate "helper"; and the assurance of
our present salvation here and now where we "are saved" by grace through faith has been replaced by a works-based salvation where we are in the process of
"being saved" by our own good works; and the word "hell" has been omitted thereby obscuring its philological meaning.
It is no coincident that new bible versions often agree with the Jehovah Witnesses New World Translation and the Roman Catholic New American Bible. For
those who take the time to [search] the scriptures daily to [p]rove all things, and search out a matter to try the spirits and do their own research (Acts
17:11; I Thess. 5:21; Prov. 25:2; I John 4:1), the serpent's signature can be seen subtly weaved into the pages of new bible versions. There is overwhelming evidence
exposing the nature of the unholy omissions, additions and substitutions and the spiritual forces responsible for the changes (Isa. 14:14; II Cor. 2:17; 11:14,15; Eph. 6:12; II
Thess. 2:3,11; I Tim. 4:1; Rev. 13:8).

RONALD REAGAN AND THE KING JAMES BIBLE


ROME'S CHALLENGE - WHY DO PROTESTANTS KEEP SUNDAY?
HISTORICAL BOOKS & DOCUMENTATION OF FACTS

Frequently Asked Questions

1. Do new versions corrupt the gospel?


2. Do new versions corrupt the Lord's model prayer?
3. Do new versions permit sodomy?
4. Do new versions support foul spirits?
5. Do new versions support Roman Catholic errors?
6. Do new versions hurt Christians?
7. Does the Amplified Bible ignore the Rev. 22 warning?
8. Do some Dead Sea Scrolls pervert scriptures?
9. What about the Geneva Bible?
10. Why didn't Jesus use the Septuagint?
11. Do new version editors admit "important" changes?
12. Where does the NIV omit 15 verses?
13. Why avoid Greek and Hebrew lexicons, interlinears, software, and grammars for Bible study and translation !!!!!!!!
14. What is the most subtle Catholic change in new versions?
The preceding information is available at A.V. Publications web site.

In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established. (Matt. 18:16; II Cor. 13:1)

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1611 KING JAMES BIBLE's NEW TESTAMENT Photographic Reproduction of the Original 1611 KJV Bible's New Testament
Seeing its readings proves to cynics that the KJV's text has never been "revised" and is identical to that used today (except for the rare 1611 typographical slips which
were shortly thereafter fixed by King James translators themselves).

BIBLE PROBLEMS by Gerardus Bouw


Answers every question. A classic! Proves KJV error free!

KING JAMES: UNJUSTLY ACCUSED by Stephen Coston


Conclusively proves false the myriad of lies propagated about King James.

CHRONOLOGY OF THE OLD TESTAMENT by F. Jones


Compelling answers for those who say there are errors in the KJV.

A DISSERTATION CONCERNING THE ANTIQUITY OF THE HEBREW LANGUAGE, LETTERS, VOWEL-POINTS, AND ACCENTS by
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It documents and traces the Hebrew Old Testament to its origin, proving that God's name was pronounced JEHOVAH.

A TESTIMONY FOUNDED FOREVER: THE KING JAMES BIBLE DEFENDED IN FAITH AND HISTORY by James Sightler
The most thoroughly researched book on the KJV issue in the last 100 years!

WHICH BIBLE? edited by D.O. Fuller


The classic defense of the KJV which led Dr. S. Franklin Logsdon, who had set forth the guidelines for the NASB, to renounce his own NASB and all new versions.

THE IDENTITY OF THE NEW TESTAMENT TEXT edited by Wilbur Pickering


The best single book (facsimile) documenting that the most recent scholarship and collation of the papyri prove that the KJV readings are earlier than those in modern
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The author presents overwhelming evidence for the historical accuracy of the KJV.

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FOREVER SETTLED by Jack Moorman


An excellent history of the bible and its documents. It answers well the question "Where was the bible before the KJV 1611?"

HISTORY OF THE DEBATE OVER 1 JOHN 5:7-8 by Michael Maynard


Powerful new release.

KJV's OWN DEFINITION OF OVER 800 WORDS by Barry Goddard


(50+ xerox pages)

IN AWE OF THY WORD by G.A. Riplinger


This book is the first and only documented history of the words of the Holy Bible.

NEW AGE BIBLE VERSIONS by G.A. Riplinger


An exhaustive documentation exposing the message, the men and the manuscripts moving mankind to the antichrist's One World Religion.

HAZARDOUS MATERIALS by G.A. Riplinger


Sequel to New Age Bible Versions. Proving the inspiration of the KJV & the hazardous materials underlying the NIV, NKJV, ESV, NASB, and HCSB.

MASONIC AND OCCULT SYMBOLS by Cathy Burns


Traces the history of occult/Satanic symbols and their influence upon society and the church. Includes 728 illustrations.

FINAL AUTHORITY by William Grady


This book exposes the deceit behind many of the common charges leveled against the A.D. 1611 Authorized version, and addresses those issues rarely discussed by
critics of the King James Bible.

ONE BOOK STANDS ALONE by Douglas D. Stauffer


This author personally exposed the errors of the NKJV editor, James Price, in front of Price's bible school's president, leaving Price speechless and the president
promoting this author's book.

Click here for important notice regarding information & recommended material on this web site!
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1 JOHN 5:7 - KJV "ERRORS" KJV 1611 - THE MYTH OF EARLY REVISIONS

ABORTION FACTS NEW AGE BIBLE VERSIONS

ALLEGED KJV ERRORS: Easter/Passover ONLY ONE GOD

AMERICA: REPENT OR PERISH! PROPHECIES OF THE MESSIAH FULFILLED IN JESUS CHRIST

ANOTHER BIBLE - ANOTHER GOSPEL REMEMBER THE SABBATH DAY

APOCRYPHA ROMAN CATHOLIC AND PROTESTANT CONFESSIONS ABOUT SUNDAY

ARE YOU A MORMON ?


SCRIPTURES FROM THE HOLY BIBLE
BIBLE VERSIONS - WHICH IS THE REAL WORD OF GOD?
SEPTUAGINT

CHRIST'S MASS - HISTORY REVEALS THE TRUTH THE 1611 KJV DEDICATORY

CHRISTMAS 2000 Years Before Christ THE BIG BANG

COULD THIS BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST ? THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS AT HAND

FREE MASONRY EXPOSED THE GOD OF HEAVEN OR THE god OF THIS WORLD ?

GOD and AMERICA THE ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT

GOT MORALS ? THE TEN COMMANDMENTS

HISTORY OF BAPTISM THE TRUE SABBATH

HISTORY OF THE RED LETTER EDITION WHAT'S WRONG WITH HALLOWEEN

IMPORTANT NEWS ARTICLES WHAT MUST I DO TO BE SAVED ?

IN AWE OF THY WORD WHO IS KING JAMES ?

IN DEFENSE OF ERASMUS WICCA/PAGAN SATANIC TIES

IS SUNDAY SACRED AND HOLY ? WORLD RELIGIONS

JESUS' BIRTH - THE UNTOLD STORY WORLD RELIGIONS - Article 2

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