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Troubleshooting Forum: Working With Stem Cells ?
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I am not certain of the proper method for determining whether a sample is positive or negative
for the antibody. I understand that it must be based on the cutoff or endpoint of the varying
dilutions of the sample. As I dilute the sample in the wells across the plate, at some point, I
lose the colored signal. Is that the endpoint used to calculate the titer? If so, is there a standard
way of calculating the titer by comparing the dilution factor of the sample to the negative
controls? Will someone please explain to me exactly how to determine an antibody titer
in an ELISA?
Also, when discerning between positive and negative wells, is a well considered positive
simply because a color is produced in that well? Would that also be true for barely diluted
samples? Or is there a standard ratio of antibody titers that forms a threshold between the
positive control and test samples?
A You are talking about the sensitivity of the ELISA. In general, as you dilute the standard
with a known amount of antigen, at some point, it will reach an absorbance that is twice
higher than that of the negative control. This is considered the minimal amount of antigen the
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A You cannot say that a sample is automatically positive just because the absorbance is twice
as high as the negative control. A sample might be positive even if it is only 1.5 higher. There
are also ELISA tests where samples are defined as positive when they are three times higher
than the negative controls. It all depends on the manufacturer and the test system you are
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from reacting patients, has a very high titer and needs to be diluted a great deal to reach
the endpoint. Signals from my positive samples are far lower than the signal from the
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the signals from my test samples are so far from the positive control signal, it makes me
question whether I should really consider those samples positive. When compared exclu-
sively against the negative control, the signals are clearly positive. Is it correct to use only
the negative controls to determine whether or not the sample is positive, and use the
positive control only to determine if the ELISA worked properly?
A I usually use the positive control to check if the ELISA is working well, just in case all
of my test samples turn out negative. When a sample is only weakly positive, you should
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Q I have been following this conversation of negative specimens from the population. Q2 I am running a sandwich ELISA for
on calculating the antibody titer in an Normally, a cutoff is equal to the mean OD TNF- in 96-well ELISA plates. I put
ELISA, but I still have a few questions. of the negative samples plus 3 standard my standards in rows A and H with the
(They are listed below). I am working on deviations. The cutoff can be made more samples in between. Recently, one row of
a previously established protocol, but have robust by adding a higher factor to the standards develops normally, but the other
some concerns about the experimental mean. This will make the ELISA more row does not develop at all. I load from the
design that Id like to resolve before specific, but with a slight loss of sensitivity. same reagent reservoir using a multichannel
proceeding with my experiment. I am new That is more desirable in most cases. pipet, so everything should be the same for
to ELISA, so Im not yet familiar with the the samples. I did the capture overnight in
best practices for these assays. To determine antibody titer, a positive a refrigerator with a glass door, but I dont
specimen is serially diluted 5-fold or think that the capture antibodies are light-
1. I found a method for determining more and then tested on the ELISA. The sensitive. What could be causing this?
endpoint cutoff values (Frey et al. endpoint titer is determined by the last
1998. A statistically defined endpoint diluted specimen that gives positive results A Is your plate reader working properly?
titer determination method for on the ELISA. Does it work if you move the standard from
immunoassays. J. Immunol. Methods row H to row B?
221:35-41) and wondered if this is A You should look in The ELISA
widely accepted or if there is a more Guidebook by John R. Crowther to Q For some of the ELISAs, row A does not
straightforward method. Specifically, find answers to all of these questions. It develop and in others, the problem was in
is twice the negative control signal a is common to use the average of negative row H. I also could not see any color in those
generally accepted threshold? samples + 3 sd to determine the cutoff. wells. I tried using rows A and B and didnt
2. Is the negative control referred to in All the ELISA tests used in serology for have a problem, but then I am concerned
the previous answers the blank or antibody detection should come with about how much I can trust the data from
background value? Or is this a measure details regarding their sensitivity and samples in row H. This only happens with
of the baseline reactivity? specificity. You can determine the cutoff by the TNF- ELISA.
3. To determine the percentage over whatever means works best for you; just be
baseline, should I compare mean certain to reference it when presenting your A Check the multichannel pipet to see if
endpoint OD values of the baseline results. You will need to mention how you it takes up the reagent equally in all tips.
versus samples? calculated it, how many negative samples If one tip is loose, it might not deliver the
you ran, how you knew they were negative, same amount of reagent as the others.
A The cutoff for an ELISA is usually calcu- and if you compared ELISA results with
lated using a sufficient number (~50100) other tests. Q I usually check the multichannel by
eye while adding reagent and will check
the volume in all of the tips on my next
attempt.
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