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sachin.
gill07: hi
sunnyraghvendra: hey every1 joined
110.ashwin: Hi all :)
shashank.shekhar.singh: hello folks
praveen9787: Hi everyone
k.manish7: hello
viswanathan.janani: hey
Sid: Hi guys
agarwal.nikunj: Hi
viswanathan.janani: good evening :)
nitinveer: hi all
110.ashwin: MASS CHAT B-)
amitinjsr: Hi all
sunny.rmalik: hi All! I thought we'd be having voice chat :|
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viswanathan.janani: aimcat 1115 results out
8:59 PM nitinveer: I thought the same..
sunnyraghvendra: are bhai log
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sachin.gill07: hello every1
sunnyraghvendra: just tell pg meets kab hongi
gixxer7p: ya
k.manish7: Now I can feel the heat..itne saare dost and woh bhi competitor
gixxer7p: me also waiting for that
chat li8 lete hein
9:00 PM sunnyraghvendra: how about nxt weekend
at 7?
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nitinveer: NO
gixxer7p: dude this weekend
k.manish7: "Kinjal Kaha ho...Please start the proceeding"
nitinveer: why shifting it next week..
me: Ok Welcome all the to the chat session
sunnyraghvendra: arre means
this wekend only
me: from BLR Study Group
sunnyraghvendra: sorry
to.ashishbhat: hi all
9:01 PM k.manish7: Let Kinjal brief us guys..!!
me: Why mocks are Killing us and to know the wats to Kill the mocks
how*
Ok
to.ashishbhat: yup
k.manish7: Ya that's what we want to know
me: Ok we have r11gupta , Poluka
9:02 PM I am still waiting for Shashank
to.ashishbhat: ok
sunnyraghvendra: eeeehhhhooooooo
arindam9777: Hi everyone
to.ashishbhat: hi
me: and The_hate will not be able to join today
he will take Questions on the PG meet
Rohit you there?
fake.email.register: he is "away"
9:03 PM k.manish7: Heard about the_hate? Want to meet him someday
sunnyraghvendra: how to select di caselets to solve
?
shashank.shekhar.singh: i m in folks
me: just a sec
to.ashishbhat: hi shashank
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9:04 PM nitinveer: Hi Shashank..
k.manish7: Don’t your first and second premises contradict one another?--->Practice will let
you knw
oops typo
me: Ok before we can stat with the Questions
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me: Seba and Poluka is there?
praveen9787: Ya Kinjal...I am here
me: Rohit you there?
r11gupta
9:06 PM Rohit: hi all
sunnyraghvendra: hi
grewal.ashwani: hi
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110.ashwin: Hi
sachin.gill07: hi
k.manish7: here he comes
nitinveer: hi
me: Ok we have r11gupta
praveen9787: hi rohit
Rohit: :)
gixxer7p: hi all
vindhyabnreddy: Hello
me: just a brief about him
r11gupta was a part of DT 09
CAT - 99.85
IIM A,C,L calls
9:07 PM Converted all
XLRI BM Convert
to.ashishbhat: grt
viswanathan.janani: awesome
110.ashwin: cool B-)
viswanathan.janani: :)
me: And he is considered God in VA
Rohit: :)
shashank.shekhar.singh: gr8
gixxer7p: in short phoda
to.ashishbhat: wow
nitinveer: Great..
vindhyabnreddy: wow...:)
sunnyraghvendra: .... he used to say ki hum yaha mock nikalne nahi aaye... humein cat nikalna
hai... and he did it....
hats off to u dude
agarwal.nikunj: in addition to that... He scored a 99.xx in almost all the aimcats last year
9:08 PM sachin.gill07: its good to hear that
Rohit: thanks people
grewal.ashwani: Guys , read rohit's "all i want to say about cat " post. Its very inspiring
me: ok
Just a sec
to.ashishbhat: ok
me: guys
we will start
in a 2 mins
110.ashwin: Rohit , could you please share your strategies and preparation methods ?
Rohit: lets get to work, I am a little short on time
:)
viswanathan.janani: yes
nitinveer: Yes for sure..
9:09 PM viswanathan.janani: those who are late can read the transcripts.. cant take too much of
r11's time
sunnyraghvendra: how to gain from mocks
?
Rohit: see
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Rohit: first off
you all need to know there is no one formula for getting through CAT
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Rohit: the simple reason is, everyone has different strengths and weaknesses
9:10 PM I may be good at VA and someone else may find it a nightmare
same for the other sections
110.ashwin: yeh
Rohit: so
you all need to find out what works for you
9:11 PM also, whatever i tell you will obviously from my perspective, meaning that it worked for
me
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110.ashwin: true !
Rohit: you need to look at in your own context and modify accordingly
to begin with strategies
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9:12 PM Rohit: first and foremost, you need to fix an order of sections
that you will generally follow in attempting any MBA entrance
the reason for that is as follows
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Rohit: suppose you start with your weakest section first, thinking that you will put the most time
into it
the problem is
9:13 PM when you start off the paper, you are not in top gear
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Rohit: and when you are ending the paper, you are somewhat tired from all the graphs and RC
passages
so if you put your weakest section either first or last, you invest more time in it that it probably
deserves
9:14 PM also, since the section is weakest, the probability of getting questions correct
is lesser as compared to your strong section
so you lose out not only on time but also on the expected return value
to.ashishbhat: true
Rohit: so I used to keep my weakest section in the middle
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k.rajnihar549: Okay I have a problem. I just cant seem to gather the interest do touch RC's in
the mocks. I just leav ethem and only do the EU part and only when there are very few EU q's I
touch them. What shud I do?
9:15 PM Rohit: lemme finish first and i'll take questions later
no offence :)
k.rajnihar549: My bad. joined in the middle. dint know what was going on
grewal.ashwani: plz continue
Rohit: its ok :)
as i was saying
9:16 PM another reason for keeping the weakest section in the middle was that i could extract
extra time from both the strong and medium sections
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Rohit: giving me more leverage in case the weak section is difficult in any particular paper
k.rajnihar549: interesting strategy this. I'll try itout.
Rohit: I used to put my strongest section first
9:17 PM the reasons are the same as those for not keeping the weakest first
the return on time invested is high, in terms of less time taken and higher probability of getting
questions correct
karthik.vys: very good one Rohit
9:18 PM vinay.keshava: continue
Rohit: not to mention the confidence that flows in from having conquered a section
makes it easier to tackle the weak section right after the strongest one
since the high confidence will ease out some of the fears
this is the first half of the strategy
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9:19 PM Rohit: the second half is like this : just like you should know what sections you are
good at, you should also know what type of questions you are good at
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Rohit: CAT is not meant to be done in the order the questions are given
its not a Class 12 board paper
its a managerial test and tests you ability to choose
to give an example
9:20 PM I used to look for grammar questions as soon as I got into the VA section
since i was good at them
I did not touch FIJ if possible
would do them only if necessary, that too at the last
always, always, first finish off what you know
that is enough to get you across cutoffs, usually
9:21 PM after that comes the maximising of your score
and that can be done with just one section
be God in any one section
nobody's asking you to be God in all 3
just cross the cutoffs in the others
bottom line : find out the questions you are good at and do them first
9:22 PM obviously, you need to be very good at the things you are good at, since you need to
compensate for being weak in other areas
as far as mocks go, i always believed what you did not do is far far more important than what
you did
because what you know, you will always know and do
9:23 PM but if you do not rectify what you don't know, it will sting you again and again, mock
after mock
there can be 2 reasons you leave a question in a mock
i'll pause here a minute
9:24 PM kinjal you there ?
?
karthik.vys: tell me,Rohit
i am karthik
k.rajnihar549: yea we all are
karthik.vys: Kinjal has some problem i think
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agarwal.nikunj: I think he is dropped out.. His status message says so
9:25 PM sunnyraghvendra: hi
Rohit: hi
sunnyraghvendra: gt disconnected
dipesh.prabhakar: Hi
sunnyraghvendra: wt did i missd
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sunnyraghvendra: hey rohit
k.rajnihar549: i ee Oct-Nov lo placement andukey adugutunna
sunnyraghvendra: just be there for sm time dude
viswanathan.janani: rohit, do you want to continue?
we are all listening
Rohit: just a min
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k.rajnihar549: *folks
nitinveer: yes we all want more inputs..
9:26 PM k.manish7: ya..please continue and take your time
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nitinveer: We are here all night :)
dipesh.prabhakar: Hi Rohit... we also wanted to know your strategy depending upon the
difficulty level of paper
me: Just a sec
110.ashwin: will try some AIMCAT's in yer style...
dipesh.prabhakar: :)
karthik.vys: any tips for RC,Rohit?
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k.manish7: Let Rohit continue in his own way
Rohit: ok
continuing
sorry about the pause
k.manish7: Np :)
Rohit: as i was saying
9:28 PM there will generally be 2 reasons you leave a question in a mock
Rohit: 1) you lack the knowledge
2) you lack the speed
now, the methods to rectify these are obvious
9:29 PM if you lack the knowledge, get familiar with the concept so that you do not miss it the
next time
if you are slow, practice !
Rohit: for every mock you take, go back and figure out why you left a question
9:30 PM then make sure you never miss out on that type of question again
the test series people will generally cover all concepts reasonably well in a test season
Rohit: so if you have the mocks for an entire season, you should be pretty good to go
Questions ?
me: One by one
Guys
110.ashwin: Thanks a ton :)
9:31 PM Rohit: :)
amitinjsr: thanks rohit!!
shashank.shekhar.singh: thanks rohit :)
sunnyraghvendra: u already told enuf
thanks rohit
Rohit: my pleasure guys
sebabratabanerjee: Great points Rohit, the ones which we know but always neglect
Sid: Hey since VA is ur domain can just give us tips on that.. and thanks a ton for ur imputs..
viswanathan.janani: thanks :)
sebabratabanerjee: we shud keep in mind to atleast be a part of R11
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9:32 PM vindhyabnreddy: Thanks a ton Rohit :)
to.ashishbhat: hey rohit
Rohit: yeah
k.manish7: EU and VA
to.ashishbhat: as u said ur strengths,,,,
sometimes i find rc to be my strength..sometimes va..
how to go abt that?
k.rajnihar549: tokka em leva :P
agarwal.nikunj: thanks for the gyaan rohit :)
k.rajnihar549: again wrong window :\
dipesh.prabhakar: Hi Rohit... How do we decide upon accuracy Vs attempts depending upon
the difficulty level of paper
sunny.rmalik: Thanks Rohit for the invaluable inputs :)
dipesh.prabhakar: I mean the difficulty is quite subjective to each one of us
9:33 PM Rohit: @manish : see, i think your strength is VA as a whole
dipesh.prabhakar: what might be difficult for me may not ne difficult for you
Rohit: yeah obviously
nitinveer: Thanks for inputs Rohit.. Never knew importance of analyisng the Mocks..
Rohit: @dipesh : this will come with practice
for example
to.ashishbhat: hey rohit...my qury pls
Rohit: XAT 2010 has a very tough DI
i took one look at it and realised it was not to be touched
9:34 PM k.rajnihar549: Okay I have a Q. VA is most certsainly my weakest area. Should I go
all out gung ho and attempt all the q's in VA or shud I stick to what I know
arindam9777: rohit,i always miss out some questions in VA just bcos i dont know the meaning
of some of the word used . So any suggestion for this ?
Rohit: did only the QA questions, got most of them right and got a BM call at 99.01 overall
percentile
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to.ashishbhat: rohit ...
Rohit: yeah ashish
see
to.ashishbhat: as u said ur strengths,,,,
sometimes i find rc to be my strength..sometimes va..
how to go abt that?
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Rohit: it can't be both ways yaar
to.ashishbhat: sometimes i do bad in both
9:35 PM Rohit: if you are equally good at both
you can try starting your english section with any of them
won't matter much
Rohit: just keep in mind the thing about returns on time invested in terms of the probability of
being right
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Rohit: @Rajnihar
k.rajnihar549: yea
to.ashishbhat: did u do RC's wid 100% qaccuracy?
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Rohit: its not expected to go all out with VA if you are not too good at it
i mean, dont make it a prestige issue to attempt all questions
because VA is very very tricky
it can destroy your paper any day
k.rajnihar549: I still cant figure out my VA. I got 97.xx in XAT and 77.xx in CAT and my
scors in the mocks vary similarly
Rohit: it destroyed mine in CAT 2008
to.ashishbhat: wat abt RC ROHIT
9:37 PM did u get 100
Rohit: nope
to.ashishbhat: accuracy?
Rohit: I never got 100% accuracy
to.ashishbhat: generally?
Rohit: the highest I have reached in VA is AIR 2
in some time mock
dont remember which one
to.ashishbhat: ok
Rohit: so obviously someone was better than me in VA :)
9:38 PM get about 80 - 90% right in RC
dipesh.prabhakar: Just one :)
Rohit: that is good enough usually
to.ashishbhat: hmm
karthik.vys: At times para jumbles ,i miss out my connection of logic and theirs differes ..have
you faced such,if so what to do to overcome it?
k.rajnihar549: Okay so how do I make sure I scrape thru VA to get to the cutoff. As I said I
always maintain a sine wave with my VA scores :\
to.ashishbhat: how was ur vocab?
snlraju: hi rohit, i attend upto 35 ques in a mock, my accuracy lingers from 50-60%. wat to do
to improve accuracy????
Rohit: see
all your queries are basically just one query
as in how to improve English
9:39 PM the one thing I will say is, read !
read like there is no tomorrow
grammar is a little bit like chess I believe
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to.ashishbhat: how was ur vocab rohit?
Rohit: if you have come across a particular grammar structure before, you will automatically
recognise it
9:40 PM Rohit: i could predict the correct answer sometimes without looking at the options in
grammar
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k.rajnihar549: The problem isnt with my grammar. My spoken English is pretty decent. It's my
choice making ability in VA that hurts me
santraghu: whoa is this r11gupta?
Rohit: good resources to read would be Hindu Editorial and NY Times editorial
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Rohit: @Santosh : yes
to.ashishbhat: how was ur vocab rohit?
Rohit: my vocab is quite good
santraghu: Great! Big fan sir!
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Rohit: due to extensive reading habit since childhoob
dipesh.prabhakar: the economist recommended too from my side
Rohit: childhood
arindam9777: Rohit,which wordlist should i follow ? IMS/ arun sharma /...
jon.anshul: hi everybody
k.manish7: Rohit, tell me one thing..! How you used to prepare for VA?
Rohit :)
Rohit: see, research suggests you need to come across a word 6 times before it is committed to
memory
Rohit: i hardly think anyone of us has the time to do a wordlist that many times
9:42 PM k.manish7: ya
nitinveer: ya..
jon.anshul: rght
santraghu: My problem is this-I'm clearing VA usually but not clearing QA or DI. One of them
always is a problem for me.
Rohit: a better usage of your time would be to read extensively
santraghu: Please suggest something
k.rajnihar549: yea pick up as many words as you can from daily usgae and be an extensive
reader. No point in mugging Word Lists
k.manish7: Rohit one Qs from my side:
Rohit
snlraju: Rohit, how to improve on accuracy esp in DI??? how did u prep for DI????
Rohit: as you come across more grammar structures and vocab, you will be more familiar with
them
9:43 PM @manish : I did not explicitly prepare for VA, i was quite good at it, but i read the 2
editorials i mention daily, without fail
k.manish7: :)
thanks
Rohit: @Santosh : see where your problem lies
if you are missing out on 2 sections, maybe you are giving too much time to VA
9:44 PM santraghu: No
Rohit: or maybe you lack depth of knowledge in QA or DI
santraghu: i finish VA in 35 mins
For QA and DI i give 50 mins each
Rohit: if its not about speed , its about knowledge
obviously
correct that
9:45 PM to.ashishbhat: rohit
Rohit: yeah
amitinjsr: @rohit,,,,Any quick tips that can be worked in few days for VA score improvement.
to.ashishbhat: now with 3 months in hand
how shd we go abt the prep
Rohit: @amit : VA is a long term investment yaar
its not maths, unfortunately
you have to slog for it
@ashish : i can't answer that in general
9:46 PM because all of you will be at different stations in the journey
the bottom line is, see what is going wrong
if you are crossing the cutoffs, its well n good
if you are not, something is amiss
either strategy or time allocation or knowledge depth or question selection or something else
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Rohit: try to see yourself in a mock as an objective observer
see what u do wrong
9:48 PM vinay.keshava: DI how to select the caselet - is based on only practice or any strategy
to.ashishbhat: u devoted how much tym daily?
Rohit: DI is the same as i said
to.ashishbhat: rohit
Rohit: i was good at the DI part but not so good at the LR part
to.ashishbhat: u devoted how much tym daily?
Rohit: so i made my DI part pretty strong and went with it
9:49 PM @ashish : its not the hours buddy
grewal.ashwani: hey rohit, 1 question from my side. Every time i see a mock, especially a QA
section, i feel like doing every question and end up doing just 12-13 in 45 minutes. I know i am
lacking judgement, but i want to make QA as my strongest section. I feel i am equally
comfortable with most of areas in QA but unable to do questions quickly especially in exams.
Any suggestions?
Rohit: if the train engine takes 5 times as much time to get me from Delhi to bangalore, do i call
it hardworking ? No, I call it slow
vinay.keshava: out of 3 or 4 , which to solve first is based on only familiarity or glance all at
once then start or how is it
9:50 PM fake.email.register: Rohit, How to improve on quant accuracy as well as speed...
Rohit: @ashwani : maybe you are not too familiar with the various types of questions that come
in
gixxer7p: @s.j. practice
Rohit: try to get more familiar
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to.ashishbhat: rohit...time di is generally Logical...how did u fair @ aimcats..was it good?
Rohit: @vinay : didnt get your question
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grewal.ashwani: yup, will try that
Rohit: @ashish : I did reasonably ok. the key was optimum question selection
mock links in my PG signature
in case you want more details
to.ashishbhat: ok
9:52 PM wat abt Quant....were u comfortable ?
Rohit: yup
santraghu: how does one block out the nervousness before the exam? I was very restless while
attempting VA in the last mock..
Rohit: was pretty much ok
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vinay.keshava: there are 3 o4 4 set of questions, we should glance all 4 and start with which i
have solved before or what is the approach?
me: One Question From navaneeth : whats the strategies for DI?
jon.anshul: @rohit: how to pratice vareity of DI & LR sets, can u tell some good source
9:53 PM Rohit: @santosh : that is why i suggest doing your strong section first
gives you a high
santraghu: yeah, exactly
Rohit: @Vinay : totally depends on what section you are talking about
to.ashishbhat: what was ur order of attemoting
santraghu: i attempt VA(my strength) first
to.ashishbhat: the paper
santraghu: But was very nervous last time
Rohit: @Kinjal : same strategy as other sections : get really really good at some parts if you
cannot be very good in all
to.ashishbhat: rohit?
9:54 PM Rohit: VA - DI - QA
arindam9777: did you use the approximation techniques like using 10 %, 5% etc, to find out
fractions like 257/697 etc ?
to.ashishbhat: ok
santraghu: yes, i follow the same
viswanathan.janani: okay.. one silly question..
Rohit: one more thing people
vinay.keshava: Rohit DI & LR
Rohit: this might sound too much but it helped me
viswanathan.janani: what to do when you don't have any particular weak/strong section?
k.manish7: Gud Qs Janani :)
Rohit: i remembered the squares from 1 to 60 , cubes from 1 to 15 and 1/x from 1 to 12
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Rohit: it sometimes helps a lot
praveen9787: @ All, Kinjal has some problems with his internet connection, so he will be out
of the cha t for a while
to.ashishbhat: yup
Rohit: it did help me in cat
viswanathan.janani: okay..
nikutelusu: how about tables ??
santraghu: ok..
Rohit: @arindam : sometimes i did approximate
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Rohit: @janani : no question is silly
trust me
to.ashishbhat: wat abt XAT verbal
vinay.keshava: Rohit- DI & LR
9:56 PM Rohit: one by one people , please
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viswanathan.janani: what to do when you don't have any particular weak/strong section?
Rohit: @Janani : if you don't have a particularly weak section, congrats ! :)
viswanathan.janani: if the performance across sections is inconsistent and varies from mock to
mock what to do..
Rohit: you then have the freedom to choose which one to maximise in
viswanathan.janani: well its not exactly good news.. it also means no strong area
110.ashwin: sort of a same ques i had , thx Janani :)
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k.manish7: Ya
Rohit: it takes much more effort to come from -10 to 0 in CAT , then it does to go from 0 to
+10, if you know what I mean :)
Rohit: if you are not strong , you can become so with practivce
viswanathan.janani: okay..
Rohit: but its nice if you are not weak
9:58 PM viswanathan.janani: so which section is the easiest to become strong?
k.manish7: :)
viswanathan.janani: or rather which comes faster with practice?
Rohit: totally your call
k.manish7: QA DI
Rohit: obviously maths can be learnt faster than english
viswanathan.janani: grammar and VA take longer to master..
Rohit: common sense :)
to.ashishbhat: what abt XAT verbal
Rohit: XAT verbal is just a notch higher than CAT verbal
9:59 PM same strategy : read read read !
sachin.gill07: hi janani!
viswanathan.janani: thanks rohit
:)
110.ashwin: Rohit , is IIM the only option , IF at all - i don't get into them , as a backup option -
"are the top 50" B-schools good enough for a decent degree ?
viswanathan.janani: hi sachin
:)
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Rohit: @ashwin : Again, its an individual perspective
10:00 PM amitinjsr: @ashwin.. dats off topic sir!!
Rohit: i was hell bent on IIMs/XL-BM/FMS
me: @Ashwin : we will take that offline
Rohit: its upto you what level of college you find acceptable
110.ashwin: @amit , kinjal - fine , sorry ! :)
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k.manish7: :)
me: No problem :)
dwivedibrij: @Rohit: DI + LR is pending :-)
10:01 PM amitinjsr: all iz well ;-)
Rohit: 1 minute people
to.ashishbhat: ya pls proceed wid DI and QA
Rohit: call
to.ashishbhat: ok
me: Hey we have poluka along with us, till Rohit joins back
we can still ask Poluka and Seba
who are part of UDT and soring consistantly
10:02 PM dwivedibrij: ya ppl u can check wid Poluka ..
dwivedibrij: he has improved DInLR very well..
to.ashishbhat: poluka
to.ashishbhat: pls give sme insights on id DI
k.manish7: Ya Poluka where r u?
me: Poluka , you there?
Seba?
10:03 PM praveen9787: @ Kinjal, Brij....i am there
to.ashishbhat: pls start with DI
praveen9787: Please go on
me: can you please take Questions
sebabratabanerjee: Hi Kinjal
sebabratabanerjee: am there
10:04 PM Shashank has joined
sunnyraghvendra: @poluka
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me: Guys we have DT Captain here
praveen9787: ya..shoot ur queries..will try me best
me: Shashank
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to.ashishbhat: grt
sebabratabanerjee: hi Shashank
nitinveer: Any stratergies for DI?
110.ashwin: gr8 !
praveen9787: hi Shashank
me: Shashank, Poluka and Seba
will take questions now
me: One by one
10:05 PM nitinveer: In DI, sometimes I get most of them right & sometimes everything wrong..
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sebabratabanerjee: Hi Nitin
sunnyraghvendra: how to familirise oneself with myriad of caselets so that whilefacing one on
d day does not sends shivers to spine like wt d hell .... how to start with this one.... i hope u got
wt m trying ti ask
Rohit: yo Doc ;)
Shashank: sorry people am late :(
10:06 PM sunnyraghvendra: hi shashank
arindam9777: @rohit,doc,poluka , some good di calculatione source, article, link whatever plz.
nitinveer: hi shashank..
sunnyraghvendra: 1st rank in mahcst
mahcet
Shashank: hello everyone
me: Ok just a sec
Rohit: @arindam : Kinjal has some material i left with him
Rohit: please contact and take
me: Just a give a brif about Shashank
arindam9777: k
me: Shashank was a member of DT 09
dwivedibrij: wow Kaptan saab aa agye
me: captain of DT 10
dwivedibrij: welcome :)
me: XAT 99.96
sunnyraghvendra: shashank convertd jbims
10:07 PM 1st rank in mahcet
me: MAH CET Topper
errishiarora: welcome
110.ashwin: B-)
sunnyraghvendra: @poluka
dwivedibrij: I think ppl dnt need intro of Kaptan saab ..
praveen9787: whoa!! :)
k.manish7: hoola
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Shashank: yeah thats me :P
to.ashishbhat: pls gibe sme insights shahank
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10:08 PM k.manish7: Let Shashank speak
to.ashishbhat: pls gibe sme insights shahank
Shashank: yeah
so what have you covered till now?
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Shashank: i mean in the confy
to.ashishbhat: VA
Shashank: i can continue after that
dwivedibrij: Rohit ne VA cover kiya ..
to.ashishbhat: yup
pls
dwivedibrij: we need DI + LR
me: VA and Tips and strategies from Rohit.
dwivedibrij: then QA
110.ashwin: Shashank - Rohit shared his strategy , experiences
me: Quite insightful
sunnyraghvendra: @poluka how to familirise oneself with myriad of caselets so that
whilefacing one on d day does not sends shivers to spine like wt d hell .... how to start with this
one.... i hope u got wt m trying ti ask
10:09 PM 110.ashwin: he was more onVA
*on VA
me: Puys one by one
sunnyraghvendra: ok
k.manish7: Let Shashank speak..!
to.ashishbhat: shashank go on
k.manish7: Pause everybody
Shashank: yeah so i will start with some basics of lr di
me: Yup shashank, can you share your experince
How do you appraoch your paper
ok
Shashank: ok so first how i go about the paper
10:10 PM Rohit: bhai ek min
Shashank: no great strategy actually
haan sirjee
Rohit: people since I have a hell load of work for tomorrow and Doc is THE expert for Quant
DI
i will take your leave
sunnyraghvendra: bye rohit
me: Oh :)
santraghu: bye rohit
sunnyraghvendra: thanks
me: Thanks Rohit
Shashank: rohit \___-___O/
tata
k.rajnihar549: bye Ro'it
to.ashishbhat: thnks rohit
santraghu: thanks a lot
dwivedibrij: jayo baks diya ;)
me: thanks a lotttttt
110.ashwin: Bye Rohit , thx a ton again :)
praveen9787: Sure Rohit...Great Insight :)
errishiarora: Thanks
sunny.rmalik: Thanks a lot Rohit!
errishiarora: :)
10:11 PM sachin.gill07: thnks rohit
bye
sebabratabanerjee: Thanks a zillion Rohit
me: :)
praveen9787: Good Night...If u can manage Sleep in WIMWI
Rohit: Doc'll handle all queries, if you particularly need my input on something , drop a mail at
r11gupta@gmail.com
praveen9787: :)
Rohit: no sleep yaar
i can't sleep till 12 tomorrow night
no chance at all
:(
Shashank: rohit sweet dreams ;)
praveen9787: :)
10:12 PM sunnyraghvendra: i dont want to go to iims:)
Rohit: chalo
to.ashishbhat: shashank
Rohit: bbye
to.ashishbhat: pls proceed
Rohit: take care and good luck :)
Shashank: chalo to shall we start
sunnyraghvendra: yups
pls
sebabratabanerjee: sure Shashank
110.ashwin: yes pls
sachin.gill07: yup
sunnyraghvendra: phr pata nahi wen u all wud be here
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Shashank: ok i will write my approach and a bit abt di lr
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k.manish7: Pause Everybody
:)
Shashank: haan so how i approach the paper is actually very simple
10:13 PM no strategy
no favourite section
no weak section
sunnyraghvendra: :(
Shashank: straightaway 1-60
110.ashwin: :O
Shashank: the thing i keep in mind is i make sure a section is done in 45 mins or less
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Shashank: if i cannot do it in 45 i dont stick with it and come back to it later if i have time left
if i get an easy section, i try to rush through in like say 25-30 mins
so thats about how i go
10:15 PM now coming to lr-di
Shashank: people might have told you that there are 7-8 types of questions and they are
something like bar graphs, piecharts and so on
well, i dont think thats the right way to classify
any form can be represented as the other
10:16 PM so rather than going for 10 bar graph based questions or piechart based questions, try
getting the logic of the caselet
like say sports based di sets or tables
10:17 PM or say something like binary logic-the things in truth and lie sets
classify it that way and then prepare for it.
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sunnyraghvendra: more gyaan needed pls
Shashank: now sources to prepare for di-lr are very few
sunnyraghvendra: how to classify
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110.ashwin: what happened - pause for sometime now
10:19 PM Shashank - u there dude ?
Shashank: yeah so how we can classify is say venn diagrams, binary logic, sports based di
caselets, info based di sets (tables, charts etc)
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Shashank: as you go on solving material, you will get to know more varieties of questions
which you can keep adding to your arsenal
as far as the material for practicing di is concerned, there is only one source which is good
enough or probably better than what we can expect in CAT
Shashank: that are your mock papers
10:21 PM try getting previous yr mocks from your center and make a copy for yourself
they have it generally as even the faculty needs it for its reference
10:22 PM make a note of any set you find interesting or has a different way of solving than you
were doing
now, coming to mocks while solving di one thing is very important
this is not solving the set but leaving one. I call it the Art of Leaving :P
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Shashank: say for instance, i guess most of you would have taken aimcat 1115
there was this venn diagram set which looked short and peaceful
karthik.vys: ok
Shashank: but once you started solving, it would have boomeranged
10:24 PM so you were not advised to solve it at the start itself
whenever i see a set, i try to collect the data given
put it in a easier format say a table or something
and then decide whether or not it will be worth the time
10:25 PM k.manish7: How?
Shashank: well that comes by a bit of experience
see
karthik.vys: :)
Shashank: what happens is
k.manish7: :)
Shashank: there are 2 possibilities
you either think you can easily crack it
10:26 PM or you think it is desirable to solve it at a later stage
if you plan to do it later, you should make sure you get time to solve it later
that is where the 45 min thing comes into play
10:27 PM you should under any circumstances leave a section after 45 mins
earlier you leave the better for you to concentrate on your weaker section
so go with a base distribution of 45-45-45
10:28 PM and them improvise
so, coming back to 1115
i left the venn diagram set for 2 reasons
1) it seems pretty complex
2) it was only the second set in the section
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10:29 PM Shashank: as there were 10-12 more questions to go, it was very important that i
atleast try those sets before i leave the section
so, i left the set
Shashank: the other sets were pretty doable compared to this one so you could easily have
attempted like 10-12 questions correctly
10:30 PM 30-36 marks in this section is like a huge thing
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to.ashishbhat: u got?
Shashank: i got 43 in di
15c2w
10:31 PM Shashank: and 132 overall
nikutelusu: omg
to.ashishbhat: air 1?
Shashank: yup
to.ashishbhat: grt
110.ashwin: B-)
Shashank: ok so, coming back
10:32 PM di is a tricky section
you crack a set you get 3-4 right
if you dont, you get frustrated
the best thing to do is put a cap on the time taken to crack a set
say 5 mins
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10:33 PM Shashank: if you cannot make head or tail of a set in 5 mins better to leave it for later
me: Shashank, Sorry for interuuption, I have to close my browser. It migh t affect the chat for 5
secs
Shashank: 2-3 mins it takes to organize the data
ok
10:34 PM karthik.vys: You've been invited to this chat room!
Shashank: another 2-3 mins you can work on it and then carry on if you think you can answer
some of the questions or leave it at that
just make sure you have seen each and every set in the 45 mins
10:35 PM to.ashishbhat: ok
Shashank: most of the time it happens that you get busy with a set and the easiest set is at the
last
those who score high will tell you that they have gone through the entire paper
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to.ashishbhat: ok
Shashank: also, remember that accuracy is very important in di
10:36 PM people go for guesswork if they havent done more than say 6-7 questions
to.ashishbhat: ok
Shashank: but doing 6-7 questions correctly itself is a big thing and good enough to clear the
cutoffs if the paper is that difficult
sunnyraghvendra: yups
u r ryt
and it is bad when flukes get correct
10:37 PM Shashank: hahaha
yeah very bad
k.manish7: :)
Shashank: happens with me in va
;)
sunnyraghvendra: :)
nikutelusu: that never happend with me
k.manish7: haha'
Shashank: so, thats how you basically go abt di-lr in prep and in the mock
10:38 PM sebabratabanerjee: Shashank
Shashank: well, i go about
sunnyraghvendra: @shashank
sebabratabanerjee: one ques
Shashank: yup seba
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sebabratabanerjee: Suppose I have 10 minutes left after attending all ques
and wanna go for more DI
But all are big caselets
in my exposure
Shashank: ok
sebabratabanerjee: what do I do
10:39 PM Shashank: if you feel you have underperformed in the section
you can go for the set which you were more confident earlier
Shashank: at the end, i wont advice going for proper caselets or even rcs for that matter
errishiarora:
Shashank: singlets will be better
10:40 PM Shashank: seba is that fine?
sebabratabanerjee: lya Shashank
Shashank: ok
sebabratabanerjee: I always loose 10 minutes in these things
to.ashishbhat: shashnak
karthik.vys: which sets to attempt like--table/LR like seating arrangement/pie charts/bars?
sebabratabanerjee: either go for RC or DI
to.ashishbhat: generally aimcats LR Is tough..how do u manage to attemot 15 or 16 q's wid
accuracy
sebabratabanerjee: That was rally helpfull
10:41 PM Shashank: karthik: depends on how comfortable you are with the sets and also the
level of difficulty
even if you loved venn diagrams it would have been foolish if you had attempted that set in 15
to.ashishbhat: how would u rate the diff level ?
10:42 PM ok
Shashank: ashish, if i am not able to solve chances are less that many will be able to solve it
it comes after solving few mocks
amitinjsr: 1 ques shashank..
Shashank: and you have to back yourself everytime
to.ashishbhat: as in ?
10:43 PM Shashank: as in you have to believe there are just a few things you cannot do
if you are finding it tough, 85% of the junta will
to.ashishbhat: ok
shashanl
sometimes i dnt get the head or tail of a DI caselet
what to do i such a case.
10:44 PM Shashank: chuck it
amitinjsr: once u find out dat the logic behind ur solution is completely wrong(usually happens
with LR)
to.ashishbhat: ok
Shashank: move on to the next set
to.ashishbhat: what shd be the general approach towards a caselet?
amitinjsr: hw shd one go ahead with damage control
Shashank: amit: if you have almost cracked, it cannot be all wrong
there is some facet you have overlooked somewhere
amitinjsr: true!!
10:45 PM Shashank: the fact that you were able to connect the data is a good enough reason to
continue with it
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Shashank: but keep yourself open
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Shashank: i mean there was a caselet last year
jandial.adi: sorry am late...but is it still on ??
Shashank: a family tree one
me: Yup
Go on Shashank
Shashank: general notion is to make a family of 2-4-2
10:46 PM but there was a twist in the set
it was there in some aimcat at the start i think
1121 i think
we had to make a 2-3-3 family
so, i made the 2-4-2 one
and answered 2-3 qs
10:47 PM but then, at the last question, my answer was not there in the options
i had to redo the set again
so, whatever we think at first might not be correct always
10:48 PM be a bit flexible in other words, make it a habit to accept your mistake
people have a thought that they are doing a set correctly but the data isnt matching
so they are quick to say that the question was wrong
most of the time it isnt the case
you have probably overlooked something
10:49 PM karthik.vys: or even attempt the nearer answer though the q is about absolute ans
bcs i do like that and got lot errors :(
Shashank: hehe
never guess
me: :)
Shashank: it should be perfect and not near perfect
amitinjsr: nd u promote the same ;-)
to.ashishbhat: what shd be the general approach towards a caselet?
10:50 PM Shashank: ashish: as i said note down the data in a better format
at one place
and then decide
to.ashishbhat: ok..
10:51 PM dwivedibrij: correctly I guess incorrect option :(
sachin.gill07: it always happen with me when i guess
no liuck with it
k.manish7: so we shldnt guess
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k.manish7: :)
Shashank: well this isnt luck na
10:52 PM if people start getting lucky no one would attend this confy
:P
me: :)
to.ashishbhat: :-)
shashank
dwivedibrij: i did a lot of calc mistake :(
amitinjsr: calculated guess is always suggested..provided u do teh calculation properly!!
10:53 PM to.ashishbhat: dnt u feel that last yr AIMCAT had very tough DI
Shashank: brij: work hard on it. Get to love numbers. there is no option to that. maybe you can
do things a bit more carefully
karthik.vys: @shashank did you attempt the arrangement set in 1115? do you attempt such
arrangement qs first or calculation intensive first(as in 1115 group wala school set)
10:54 PM Shashank: which arrangement one
sorry its all messed up. i mean all the mocks
:P
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karthik.vys: the seating arranagement of 10 members
10:55 PM Shashank: ok
these type of questions have to be done from the options
karthik.vys: you mean arrangement qs from options,,yes good startegy
Shashank: there must be some criterion which is being violated
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Shashank: so you can easily eliminate options
sebabratabanerjee: True
karthik.vys: yes!
Shashank: these are the ones which can be attempted and are not that difficult
to.ashishbhat: wats difficult for u ;-P
10:57 PM :-P
Shashank: ashish: many things ;)
to.ashishbhat: comoon yar
me: Puys I guess we can continue the QA Session later.....
to.ashishbhat: then we toh are zero
me: I guess for summarising the DI
karthik.vys: another thing i saw in Time mocks are when a calculation set comes (like in 1115-
Group of games etc,,) do write and do calculations neatly..the following qs might use the same
calculation ,so need not do it gain
k.manish7: ya
karthik.vys: just my observation
10:58 PM Shashank: yup
anything you write down make sure it is atleast legible
me: Yup,
110.ashwin: I've observed it too :)
Shashank: r11 had terrible handwriting if i remember correctly
;)
karthik.vys: :)
me: He used to understand and now us
Shashank: but he advised to keep things clean
me: as far as I remember
10:59 PM :)
Anyway,
karthik.vys: might be vision is great..at times ppl see regularity in irregularity
Shashank: make larger than life tables if you like
me: Shashank, may be we can wrap this confy at this point of time
Shashank: sure kinjal
to.ashishbhat: shashank ur personal id?
k.manish7: ya
Shashank: shashank3012@gmail.com or shashank.prabhu@pagalguy.com
11:00 PM karthik.vys: kinjal..can we have VA and DI chats after each mock
dwivedibrij: I m not gett'g ny text ..
110.ashwin: yeh
11pm
karthik.vys: just say perfect rigid 1 hr
just startegies
me: May be not PG id, He is reachable in gmail id
sunnyraghvendra: shashank thanks dude
karthik.vys: like say which one attempted and why and how
after solutions are out
me: Thanks Shashank, Thanks a lot
to.ashishbhat: yup
sunny.rmalik: Thanks Shashank for the insights! Really helpful!
me: Congrats for being AIR 1
to.ashishbhat: thanks
110.ashwin: Thx a ton shashank :)
Shashank: @All: thank you for being patient
me: 132
k.manish7: Congooo
11:01 PM agarwal.nikunj: thanks a lot shashank
errishiarora: Thanks a lot shashank.
me: When you talk we have to listen :)
Shashank: am sorry i got a bit stuck in office
sunny.rmalik: Thanks Kinjal for putting this all together!!
sunnyraghvendra: shahshank
sebabratabanerjee: Shashank we were not patient....we were cuurious
praveen9787: Thanks Shashank...:)
amitinjsr: thnx shashank..
me: Awesome insghts
sebabratabanerjee: thanks a lot
sunnyraghvendra: just one last query
karthik.vys: thanks shashank
santraghu: thanks shashank
me: shoot
errishiarora: Kudos Kinjal
karthik.vys: grt insights
sunnyraghvendra: is work and prep manageble?
Shashank: yup redemption
i can so anyone can
110.ashwin: Thx to Kinjal for organising ! :)
Shashank: ;)
sunnyraghvendra: ok
thanks
sachin.gill07: thnx every1
karthik.vys: thanks Kinjal
dipesh.prabhakar: Thnx every1
agarwal.nikunj: thanks kinjal
to.ashishbhat: thnx everyone
11:02 PM it was grt
Shashank: read r11's aiwtsac post if you want to know how to manage work and prep
sebabratabanerjee: Kinjal great job buddy.....you are the real manager
sunnyraghvendra: hope to get air 1 and beat u
:)
santraghu: yes thanks also to kinjal
agarwal.nikunj: thanks evryone.. Looking forward to the BLR meet
sunnyraghvendra: read
he is superman
Shashank: redemption: will keep me on my toes
:P
sunny.rmalik: To do the least, I'll put up the chat transcript on PG BLR Study Group!
sunnyraghvendra: :)
11:03 PM me: Thats great
karthik.vys: sure thats a grt thing
me: Even I will do it
Thanks all
errishiarora: Thanks
me: Next meet is PG BLR Meet next Sunday
:)
karthik.vys: need to read and prepare startegy and attempt nxt aimcat
Shashank: thank you people
sebabratabanerjee: Good night everyone
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me: Abhishek will take your queries there
karthik.vys: BYE..gn
to.ashishbhat@gmail.com has left
me: Thanks
sebabratabanerjee: Have a tight sleep after a tight session
errishiarora: Good night
sunny.rmalik: Good night people! Hope to meet you in person soon ....
errishiarora: guys
110.ashwin: Kinjal , as always , a mail with details would be better :)
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me: Definitely
11:04 PM k.manish7: Chat Histiry will help
me: You will get a mail about the details

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