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Philosophy Part Tres
Philosophy Part Tres
Philosophy Part Tres
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Plato’s republic
-series of dialogues
-individual named
-better going through life trying to screw other people
-Origin of Justice
-Practiced Unwillingly
-when you are willing to lay down arms insofar that your brother is willing to do the same, that is a social
contract
-we should band together
-let’s all agree that the next time we have a conflict, let’s let her decide
-judge, arbiter, lawmaker, government
-hence the social contract
-Hobbs believes that there is no justice until there is civilization
-civilization is the salvation of man
-the framers of the American Revolution were very well read
-Franklin had a doctorate
-dig a whole instead of finishing the pool
-have to give him some money, but not $10,000
-13 original colonies became states
-became known as the United States
-every state was known to be sovereign of it
-Marx
-Marx wanted a fair distribution of the wealth
-The Soviet Union collapsed because everybody misunderstood human greed
-government would take 96% of everything you grow and distribute it to the commonwealth
-allow the peasant his own small plot
-everybody put much effort into what they own and put little effort into what was going to somebody
else
-you’ll work hard for yourself, you won’t work for somebody else
-wealthy people who have enough money will keep getting richer and richer
-some impoverished person will not be able to buy their kid a new laptop
-poor are getting richer at a rate much slower than the wealthy
-justice is practiced unwillingly
-gyges
-earthquake opens up huge underground vault
-shepherd finds tomb of king
-turns ring so that he can become invisible
-shepherd starts fooling around with other people’s wives
-he becomes king of kingdom just because of powers
-what would you do if you knew you couldn’t get caught
-either there is no God or God is so forgiving everybody goes to heaven no matter what you do
-magical powers ensure that you’ll never get caught and never get punished
-we are not just because we want to be, we are just because we’re forced to be
First Objection:
-the bread and circuses objection
-story of ancient roman emperor
-give the people bread and circuses
-if people are well fed and have entertainment on the weekends, they will never revolt
-entertainment and a full belly
Ecclesiastes 118
-He that increases knowledge increases sorrow.
-rocks
-rocks have no feelings rocks have no pain
-virus
-probably do not feel pain
-crustacean
-do not know enough about a lobster’s CNS; do not know if they experience pain or
pleasure
-reptiles and amphibians
-respond to cutaneous stimuli
-frog will avoid an open flame
-mammals
-experience same physiological pain that we do
-had to anesthize own live rats
-dogs get homesick
-dogs mourn themselves to death
-humans
-heartache
-agonies of a tortured mind
-depression, anxiety, existential angst
-when you are really dumb, not much bothers you
-genius
-walks razor’s edge between sanity and insanity
-philosophers who went insane
-John Stuart Mill had an I.Q. of 190; had a nervous breakdown at age 21
-William James had to spend 6 years in an asylum following a nervous breakdown
-Edgar Allen Poe married his thirteen year old cousin
-Berkley had coprofilia
-Freud was a cocaine addict and he used to hear voices
-the more intelligent you are, the more tortured you are, because you see more of
reality
-people do not want to lower intelligence because we are not happy unless we are pursuing
higher order pleasures
-people are not happy unless they are pursuing intellect
-the bread and circuses objection is dumb because people will never live like pigs
-if you are not using your mind, you are not going to be happy
2)
-Happiness is not obtainable
-have to understand what is meant by happiness
-nobody is in the state of bliss all of the time
-by happiness, we mean that we seek a preponderance of pleasure over pain
-51/49 split – can still seek to maximize pleasures in this world
4)
-Throughout history, there have been large groups of people who believe that we should abnegate the
pleasures of the flesh
-give up pleasures of the flesh
-person could mummify themselves by not drinking water and only drinking honey
-Christians tied themselves up with rope so every movement hurt
-St. Francis at the most disgusting food possible
-mixed ashes with his food
-You should not support happiness, you should support virtue
-Mills
-Any sacrifice that does not advance the greatest happiness for the greatest number is a waste
-If you care about animals you could write articles about animal abuse, give public lectures about the
plight of the animals
-disturbed that we live in the wealthiest nation, and there are people in our own vicinity that have no
shelter
-if you care about homeless, you could volunteer for the soup kitchen, habitat for humanity
-many things you could do to help people besides lacerating your feet
-William James
“Pray as if everything depends upon God, but act as if everything depends upon you”
-Aunt Laura is at Laurel Crest
-could say Rosary until you are blue in face
-could go visit Aunt Laura
-One might work, but one is certain to work
-lacerating yourself will not do anything
Next Objection:
5)
Godless doctrine
Mill is writing in nineteenth century in Victorian England; uptight, sanctimonious about religious belief
system
-“I don’t see God in any paragraph”
-how can you call this a doctrine of ethics?
1) Throughout the Christian tradition we are taught that God has ordained humans toward happinees
-do you like trying to fall asleep at night with the view that God hates me and I am going to rot
in Hell no matter what I do
2) Every revealed religion is inherently vague and ambiguous; you can fold spindle scripture to make it
say what you want it to say
6)
-Stigmatized immoral doctrine by giving it name of expediency-taking the easy way out
-Utilitarian’s will sometimes fib
-you have to lie if you want to get ahead in business
-you have to lie on job interviews
-half of human conversation is not exactly correct
-make distinction between the short run and the long run
-In the short run, you are allowed to fib, but that does not mean that as a long term principle, a
utilitarian is allowed to lie
-does not mean you are always allowed to steal
-allowed to steal bread from Wal-Mart if starving; allowed to speed if you are driving wife to hospital
-does not mean you can always do this
-an inflexible attitude toward ethics will always be unworkable
-human beings find themselves in situations where they have to make little violations of moral rules;
does not mean you can do it all of the time
7)
-Time
-Sometimes you don’t have enough time to figure out what you want to do
-Mill argues that since the memory of human kind, we have been calculating what sorts of actions
progress the greatest happiness for the greatest number and which do not
-grandparents found out that it is not a good idea to let baby get run over by buffalo, horse and buggy,
model T, 57 Chevy, don’t let any sentiate being get run over by anything if you can prevent it
-It is impossible to guide our conduct by Christianity because there is not time to read through the new
and old Testaments
-if you assume everyone is an idiot, no ethical theory will work
-if you assume everyone has a grain of sense, utilitarianism makes sense and works
On liberty “One should have unfettered liberty over one’s own life and person insofar as the
exercise of such liberty does not seriously encroach on the welfare of others”
-principle of harm
The only part of the conduct of anyone is that which concerns others; the part which concerns
himself