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02-10-2006 03:35 AM #1
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Default Home Fentanyl Synthesis
SWIM ran across this, searched the forums here for it, didn't see it, so
he's posting it here for anyone who is savvy enough...
It turns out:
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dang! Somehow I doubt that anyone with the resources and equipment would
risk such a ghetto synth.....but hell, if it works, it works!
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ok, guess I just flush the kilo of o I was going to use o make h, and go
with this..lol:D
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LMAO! Yeah, who needs opium when you have ghetto fentanyl made from deadly
nightshade! LOL :D
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Hey Guys...I am new, and aced Chem 1 in college, IQ 191 and have a several
engineering degrees.
Think I can systhesize some FA?
I want to develop a detailed procedure for this, step by freaking tiny
step, listing every piece of equipment and labwear, how and where to get all the
precusors (nightshade, dexatrim, sodium propionate).
All Who Participate Will Be Compensated! We will share the wealth.
This is a SERIOUS PROPOSAL....REMEMBER THAT THIS IS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF
THE PROCEDURE ONLY AND IS NOT INTENDED TO BE ACTUALLY USED...:D
Let us start with complete, detailed lab procedure steps for the following
modules:
1) PPA(Phenylpropanolamine) free base extraction from Dexatrim tablets.
This procdeure needs detailing.
2) Extraction and purification of Atropine from Nightshade
==>hydrolyzation==>oxydation==>methylation (iodomethane)==>tropinone (or can
atropine be bought? Sched IV drug - so I don't think so...) the plant is only found
in a few areas of the USA, can it be bought at nurseries? This procdeure needs
detailing.
3) Propionic anhydride synthesis: Calcium propionate + Br ==> Propionic
anhydride This procdeure needs detailing.
4) Obtaining Aniline: Is it a monitored chemical? I don't think so as it is
used in dye production.
What specific type of aniline is required for this process?
5) Aniline + tropinone, then reduced with NaBH4. This procdeure needs
detailing.
6) Details of the flash chromatographing operation used to separate the
product. What is the citric acid used for? Recomendations on the type and brand of
unit are needed.
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Second Movement
Dexatrim is bought in a fiendish quantity. The PPA is
extracted and isolated as its free base. This is
combined with tropinone, to form
N-(1-hydroxy-1-phenyl)isopropyl tropinone.
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first of all, to propose something like this makes you sound like a cop. to
say you're a chemist, and a genius, and looking for people to help you make
fentanyl...... now that's just stupid.
besides these points, you're on the wrong forum for this kind of shit. it's
not secure, it's not chemistry oriented, and it's not going to be much help (unless
you're looking for some suckers to throw in jail)
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Yeah, superman's right that kinda sounds like there would be an exchange of
an illegal substance and this is strictly forbidden. There's alittle chemistry talk
around here, not too much though; this is a forum that get's into sythesis alot
more/indepth (although they seem to be down at the moment)
https://www.synthetikal.com/
I'm not too sure that Atropine is a controlled substance either, in the
medication Lomotil it is schedualed but that is due to the Diphenoxylate not the
Atropine. The Atropine is in there to prevent abuse and thus the low schedual (or
high I guess); I bet that Diphenoxylate by itself would be a much lower schedual. I
know of at least one chemical supply house that currently advertises Atropine HCL
in it's cateloge... whether or not they have it in stock is another matter though,
if you had your email addy up I could send it along but I won't post it publically
and you don't have PM ability yet.
And this is the second time in a week that someone has dropped their IQ on
us... that's just weird.
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yea 191 no less shit that is signifigant what % does that fall in yikes
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Peeps have already started posting their IQ's.So when it feels right go for
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thanks, nick. I'll retake the test when I'm finished writing up my American
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This is really cool, and there must be a way to make homeade opiates...but
this recipie lacks details, and way to many steps....without yeild...and from my
experince atropine s a fragile chemical that breaks down easy. the final yeild must
be like .02% lol
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This is really cool, and there must be a way to make homeade opiates...but
this recipie lacks details, and way to many steps....without yeild...and from my
experince atropine s a fragile chemical that breaks down easy. the final yeild must
be like .02% lol
It was the Meperidine analoge MPPP that was the goal of the synthesis in
question, it ended up being tainted with MPTP; which is the compound that caused
the instant Parkinson's-like symptoms and subsequently all the ruckus.
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[quote=chemboy7;43117]It was the Meperidine analoge MPPP that was the goal
of the synthesis in question, it ended up being tainted with MPTP; which is the
compound that caused the instant Parkinson's-like symptoms and subsequently all the
ruckus.[/quote}
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In one of the recipes above it says to acquire DEXATRIM tablets. But they
took those off the market so good luck finding that unless you live in Brazil or
some crazy country like that. Nothing against brazil but you guys are crazy!
Fentanyl synth is going to be more and more common in the future. People in America
are going to start learning it and doing it. I think it's already begun. In mexico
they could make this shit and pump it into the U.S and canada easily and it's very
cheap to make and a good high very strong. but along with this comes unexperienced
chemists and they will probably not dilute it right or cut it right and end up
killing alot of people. people dont know how to handle fentanyl either they always
asusme it's just good white heroin and shoot it up and they end up in a coma. I
heard of a group of users in the U.S who were shooting up and they found them all
dead in a circle. I think it was 8 people but i may be wrong. Apparently they all
died from a fentanyl overdose. Not plain Fentanyl i think it was alpha methyl or
methyl fentanyl i'm not sure of the name.
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Damn, why's chemistry gotta be so damn complicated? I just want some fent,
I'm not trying to win a Nobel prize for science. Jeez...
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Wasn't that guy trying to make fent in Calafornia when he turned people
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"In one of the recipes above it says to acquire DEXATRIM tablets. "
that's odd... isn't dexatrim just dextroamphetamine?the only usefull thing
someone would make with this is methamphetamine but it's not even worth the effort.
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Maybe I'm odd too, but I'm taking Organic Chem right now for the fun of it.
I'm interested in this idea, but it doesn't seem to be a "home" thing.
Like it was mentioned: the %yield will probably be tiny for us amateur
chemists without access to professional lab equipment and pure precursors. Also,
there is no detailed info on reactions (I doubt these all work out fine at Room
Temp in unfettered aqueous sol'n) and no good info on extraction. In the end, you
might end up with a mess of white gook of which 1% is some random-ass fentanyl
analogue and the other 99% is SodiumBromatoic acid or whatever.
I just don't know about drone #342, but I wish it were good enough to be
true. I think it's easier to be a social-engineer than a chemical-engineer and go
doctor-shopping. However much I love chem, I'm still only going to stick to the
easiest of reactions for now.
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Maybe I'm odd too, but I'm taking Organic Chem right now for the fun of it.
I'm interested in this idea, but it doesn't seem to be a "home" thing.
Like it was mentioned: the %yield will probably be tiny for us amateur
chemists without access to professional lab equipment and pure precursors. Also,
there is no detailed info on reactions (I doubt these all work out fine at Room
Temp in unfettered aqueous sol'n) and no good info on extraction. In the end, you
might end up with a mess of white gook of which 1% is some random-ass fentanyl
analogue and the other 99% is SodiumBromatoic acid or whatever.
I just don't know about drone #342, but I wish it were good enough to be
true. I think it's easier to be a social-engineer than a chemical-engineer and go
doctor-shopping. However much I love chem, I'm still only going to stick to the
easiest of reactions for now.
I agree with you about this being a "dodgy" recipie, but about the
fractional diastillation....its used in the refineing of oil, and in principle
seems simple....altho prob misleading. What do they use in a O-chem lab to do this?
Could someone build a fractional still at home.....diffrent chemicals sublimate at
different tempatures, and are collected at different points in the colum, lowest to
highest i belive.....
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there are countless drugs that can be made at home, but i suggest anyone
wanting to be a clandestine chemist learn to use search engines and find a strictly
chem forum for support. if you want help with extractions and other basic things,
you should be able to get the advice here (unless you didn't use the search engine
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Hey all,
new here, just wanted to add my 2 cents to this as it's one of my favourit
themes :)
Dexatrim is, as far as i know only required as a source for
Phenylpropanolamin, which is, banned now almost everywhere in "the western world".
Don't know about the rest.
- none the less drone was a real genius - his name shall be praised in
eternity :)
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I'll have to look into it more but this could be a feasible idea to get
NPP.
Edit: I'm having a real hard time seeing this reaction. He said either one
can be the quaternary salt and react with the other, but how does this reaction
occur and what is the side product?
As someone who actually knows what I am talking about, drone 342 is likely
full of feces, and this would be best used to grow poppies, not synth fent. Very
derivative procedure written by a creative guy with some knowledge of the
structures, but one could only react the atropinonen with the exhaustively
methylated (what he called the trimethy iodo salt of alpha whatever phenethylamine)
quat amine salt of PEA/PPA/amp. And by the way, doing it a more creative way one
can use amp to make AMF. This procedure may be actually doable in theory but not
the way he says.
I call self serving trollish bullshit on drone 342. The queen (or king) bee
probably sacrificed his ass after that post...
For all of you guys who really want to know this stuff the best place to
look is the college bookstore and pick up Ege or McMurry or Streetweiser Organic
chem texts, then maybe March or another Advanced Organic text. Then you can figure
out all thewhys and hows as well as nail the bullshit as it steams.
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