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National Institute of Life and Family Advocates Et Al v. Becerra Et Al Transcript
National Institute of Life and Family Advocates Et Al v. Becerra Et Al Transcript
National Institute of Life and Family Advocates Et Al v. Becerra Et Al Transcript
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ET AL., )
Petitioners, )
v. ) No. 16-1140
OF CALIFORNIA, ET AL., )
Respondents. )
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1 C O N T E N T S
6 JEFFREY B. WALL
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11 JOSHUA A. KLEIN
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1 P R O C E E D I N G S
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7 Mr. Farris.
23 viewpoints. So for -
9 that be unconstitutional?
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17 hypothetical case.
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15 unconstitutional?
20 pregnancies.
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5 what?
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1 doctor?
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12 pregnancy. To be sure -
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8 redefining medicine.
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1 "Choose Life."
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8 counsel.
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