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2017/03/30, 05:17 PM
4RNRRON
Re: Ultimate Trail Master
Ok all,
I have started a separate Carnage Canyon 2017 thread, so we don't hijack

this thread any longer
http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/...42#post3533342
2017/03/30, 05:56 PM
Reenen
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flipside

My kit is nog nie Carnage proof nie, maar my tong hang uit
om by hom uit te kom.
Miskien moet ek uitvind of ek iewers kan links voor of innie
boot sit om dit saam te beleef.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeanvn

Sit self en wonder, gaan my 'n klein karretjie se geld kos om
my TJtjie reg te kry.
Maar die trip wil ek baie graag doen.
Myne ook nie. Maar ek sal maar probeer...

Sal maar n 13 spanner saam vat...
2017/04/02, 07:45 AM
NEON DEON
The alure of attending Carnage canyon has side tracked this tread a little ,
fortunalt a new tread with all the details has been started for those that
wish to join.
Can we now get back to entering Ultimate trail master? 4/5 guys have
entered their 50 trail drives , i have entered xtremos , and the 50 trails ,
although not updated as yet( manny sick in bed)
Come on guys ,enter , its 50 bucks to list your 50 trails drived in your 4x4
carear , yes it takes a bit of thinking as you can only name a trail once even
http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/printthread.php?t=272194&pp=200&page=2 1/44
if you have driven it a 100 times, i read Flips list and thought Manny got
things wrong , mixed mine up with his as lots of the trails posted was a
match to the ones I have driven ,
Take a chance and enter one of the extreme tests , its you and your
machine agains nature and if you conquor them all have some bragging
rights , even if its just a mention under your forum name .
An idea like this has to be driven by the members , the organiseres can
only do so much and then its seems to them that they have to start licking
asses to get people to commit, and that they dont want to do, then the idea
dies a silent death.
Put your name on the bourd and join a event that couls be huge fun and
above all big adventure, you did not buy a 4x4 to go show off at the mall,
get it ditrty , drive it like you stole it , above all enjoy it for what it is a 4x4
.
2017/04/02, 12:00 PM
Reenen
Quote:
Originally Posted by NEON DEON

The alure of attending Carnage canyon has side tracked this
tread a little , fortunalt a new tread with all the details has
been started for those that wish to join.
Can we now get back to entering Ultimate trail master? 4/5
guys have entered their 50 trail drives , i have entered
xtremos , and the 50 trails , although not updated as yet(
manny sick in bed)
Come on guys ,enter , its 50 bucks to list your 50 trails
drived in your 4x4 carear , yes it takes a bit of thinking as
you can only name a trail once even if you have driven it a
100 times, i read Flips list and thought Manny got things
wrong , mixed mine up with his as lots of the trails posted
was a match to the ones I have driven ,
Take a chance and enter one of the extreme tests , its you
and your machine agains nature and if you conquor them all
have some bragging rights , even if its just a mention under
your forum name .
An idea like this has to be driven by the members , the
organiseres can only do so much and then its seems to them
that they have to start licking asses to get people to commit,
and that they dont want to do, then the idea dies a silent
death.
Put your name on the bourd and join a event that couls be
huge fun and above all big adventure, you did not buy a 4x4
to go show off at the mall, get it ditrty , drive it like you
stole it , above all enjoy it for what it is a 4x4 .
Ek gaan die extreme en die 7 devils doen, maar jy kan eers registreer na
eerste een voltooi is. So hulle sal moet wag tot ek eerste een klaar gemaak
het.
Wonder of ek die extreme in een sitting kan doen??? Transvaal is ver van
kaap...
50 trails.... ek het nie bewyse van almal, en ek was dom om n helse klomp
met my 1978 merc te doen om n punt te bewys, en nou tel dit nie want
alhoewel die roete tel, het ek dit met n slightly modified 4x2 sedan sonder
lowrange gedoen...
2017/04/02, 12:35 PM
Jeanvn
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenen

Ek gaan die extreme en die 7 devils doen, maar jy kan eers
registreer na eerste een voltooi is. So hulle sal moet wag tot
ek eerste een klaar gemaak het.
Wonder of ek die extreme in een sitting kan doen???
Transvaal is ver van kaap...
50 trails.... ek het nie bewyse van almal, en ek was dom om

n helse klomp met my 1978 merc te doen om n punt te
bewys, en nou tel dit nie want alhoewel die roete tel, het ek
dit met n slightly modified 4x2 sedan sonder lowrange
gedoen...
Stem saam dat afstand nogals n probleem is, wel tyd eintlik.
2017/04/02, 12:52 PM
Reenen
Quote:

Stem saam dat afstand nogals n probleem is, wel tyd eintlik.
Yip, afstand is niks. Ek geniet my voertuig, geniet om te ry, sal maklik

4000km in n naweek doen. Tyd is alles. As jy jouself 15 dae n jaar gee,
moet mens mooi dink tussen familie vakansie en 4x4 pret...
2017/04/02, 01:13 PM
Jeanvn
Quote:

Yip, afstand is niks. Ek geniet my voertuig, geniet om te ry,
sal maklik 4000km in n naweek doen. Tyd is alles. As jy
jouself 15 dae n jaar gee, moet mens mooi dink tussen
familie vakansie en 4x4 pret...
Daar is hy nou perfek opgesom.
2017/04/03, 12:14 PM
Mad Manny
I was off sick for 7 days & have just caught up with reading of this Thread.
Glad we finally have a Thread, purely for the 4x4 enthusiast - no Garden
Ant, Pool Care or Cooking Tip natter here.;D
Also glad the Extreme guys are getting organised.
BUT! If a lot of guys are coming up for Carnage Canyon, we should try
arrange that they knock off some of the other Extreme events at the same
time.
It's not like they can be expected to make numerours trips.
However, If it's just Reenen, then we can maybe get him up her later in the
year for Rhino Challenge etc.
wrt Dos Sete Diablos - I'll start promoting that later in the week...
2017/04/03, 12:27 PM
Mad Manny
PS, another two Cinquenta Qualifiers coming through tonight...
2017/04/03, 12:40 PM
Malkoppi
Manny this is an awesome initiative thank you. I got goosebumps from

excitement whenI saw the thread and my wife could not understand it😂😂
😂 Will do the seven devils and extreme 5, will have to do carnage canyon
next year since my rig will only be running just before whoopah to tick off
waterford. Will email you
2017/04/03, 12:53 PM
Mad Manny
Quote:
Originally Posted by Malkoppi

Manny this is an awesome initiative thank you. I got
goosebumps from excitement when I saw the thread and my
wife could not understand it😂😂😂 Will do the seven devils
and extreme 5, will have to do carnage canyon next year
since my rig will only be running just before Whooooopah to
tick off Waterford. Will email you
Have you driven anything other than sand Desmond?;D
Desmond, we'll get a 'Sete Diablos' group together, then you, Grips, Frans
etc. can come up here over a long weekend & we'll do Briekmerk & Koos Se
Klim & the guys doing Cinco Extremos can do God se Pad all on the same
weekend.
We'll be in touch...
2017/04/03, 01:01 PM
Malkoppi
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Manny

Have you driven anything other than sand Desmond?;D
Desmond, we'll get a 'Sete Diablos' group together, then

you, Grips, Frans etc. can come up here over a long
weekend & we'll do Briekmerk & Koos Se Klim & the guys
doing Cinco Extremos can do God se Pad all on the same
weekend.
We'll be in touch...
Sand and Fortuners are my favourite to go over yes😜😜😜
Manny that sounds awesome but you do remember that Ive told you I'm
not a Noordskaapenaar any more😂😂
2017/04/03, 01:03 PM
Jeanvn
Quote:

I was off sick for 7 days & have just caught up with reading
of this Thread.
Glad we finally have a Thread, purely for the 4x4 enthusiast

- no Garden Ant, Pool Care or Cooking Tip natter here.;D
Also glad the Extreme guys are getting organised.
BUT! If a lot of guys are coming up for Carnage Canyon, we

should try arrange that they knock off some of the other
Extreme events at the same time.
It's not like they can be expected to make numerours trips.
However, If it's just Reenen, then we can maybe get him up
her later in the year for Rhino Challenge etc.
wrt Dos Sete Diablos - I'll start promoting that later in the
week...
I'll be doing carnage as well with softroadertjie. Not sure if you want to go
to a lot of trouble for just the two vehicles though.
2017/04/03, 04:02 PM
Mad Manny
Our first Cinquenta Qualifier was Engel.

Our 2nd was Jurgen Steyn.
The 3rd was Ben Van Dyk.
The 4th Cinquenta Qualifier was Flipside...
Our 5th is NEON DEON
Deon Smith – List of 50

1. Chimes
2. The Gorge.
3. Buffalo Gorge
4. Berakah
5. Rhino park
6. Wolwekloof
7. Beast nest
8. Hennops 4x4
9. Hennops pride
10. leeuwenkloof
11. Hobby park
12. Sandwani
13. Kungwini
14. Gerotec
15. Att se gat
16. Moegatle
17. Mabilingwe
18. Jubaweni
19. Carnage Canyon
20. River Trip - Molototsi
21. Macmac 4x4
22. Mac mac Antenna mountain
23. Ossewa trail , Babertton
24. Piet se pad , Baberton
25. Nut bush farm , Nelspruit
26. Zilkaats river Witrivier
27. Njala 4x4 Nelspruit
28. Turtle rock trail , Swaziland
29. Diesel dog , Swaziland
30. Horseshoe trail Swaziland
31. Sand River trail , Swaziland
32. DVR falls
33. DVR mountain trail
34. Monatsa pass
35. Rebellie mountain trail
36. Rebellie kloof trail
37. Old mill 4x4
38. Black mountain Pass , Lesoto
39. Sani pass (In the snow)
40. Baboons Pass
41. Jock Strap Pass
42. Maletsuane Falls
43. Protea 4x4 Montague
44. Paradise 4x4 - Wilderness
45. Honingklip Botrivier
46. Die plaat Gansbaai
47. Ponta du Ora
48. Bilene dunes trip
49. Chloorkop
50. Goggos Swaziland
51. Rust de winter
52. Tjokwe trail (Moegatle )
53. Heidleberg 4x4
2017/04/03, 04:09 PM
Mad Manny

5th was NEON DEON
6th is Ron Hairbottle 4RNRRON
Ron's list of 50...
1. Madimbu Limpopo River Trail - Limpopo

2. Popallin Ranch 4x4 Trail - Limpopo
3. Mapungubwe National Park 4x4 Trail - Limpopo
4. Olifants river trail - Limpopo
5. Mabote River Camp - Limpopo
6. Masebe National Park - Limpopo
7. Carnage Canyon - Limpopo
8. Rock Rash - Limpopo
9. The Ranch 4x4 Trail - Limpopo
10. Sand Rivier 4x4 Trail - Limpopo
11. Lekgalameetse - Limpopo
12. Bewaarskloof 4x4 Trail - Limpopo
13. Hooggenoeg 4x4 Trail - Limpopo
14. Zebediela 4x4 Trail - Limpopo
15. Mateke - Limpopo
16. Kwela Anget - Limpopo
17. Jobedi - Limpopo
18. Marakele National Park- Limpopo
19. Mambas Pass - Limpopo
20. Makuya Park - Limpopo
21. Nwanedi 4x4 Trail - Limpopo
22. Knott’s Trail - Limpopo
23. Georges Valley 4x4 - Limpopo
24. Baltimore 4x4 - Limpopo
25. Bosvark - Limpopo
26. Serendipity - Limpopo
27. Rust De Winter - Limpopo
28. Schamach - Limpopo
29. Moegatle - North West
30. Letele Pass - Lesotho
31. Baboons Pass - Lesotho
32. Rampai Pass - Lesotho
33. Jock Strap Pass - Lesotho
34. Mafika Lisiu Pass - Lesotho
35. God Help Me Pass - Lesotho
36. Cannibal Pass - Lesotho
37. Sani Pass to Katse - Lesotho
38. Sehlabathebe National Park - Lesotho
39. Riverwild - Mpumalanga
40. Pilgrims Rest 4x4 Trail - Mpumalanga
41. Graskop 4x4 Track - Mpumalanga
42. Hondeklipbaai to Cape Town Beach Trail
43. Richtersveld - Northern Cape
44. Fish River Canyon - Northern Cape
45. Augrabies Falls 4x4 Trail - Northern Cape
46. Burchell’s Oxwagon Trail - Eastern Cape
47. Wild Coast 4x4 Route - KwaZulu Natal
48. Sodwana Bay to Kosi Bay behind the dunes trail - KwaZulu Natal
49. Makgadikgadi Pans - Botswana
50. Chobe & Linyanti - Botswana
51. Savuti & Moremi - Botswana
52. Harare 4x4 Jamboree - Zimbabwe
53. Eastern Highlands - Zimbabwe
54. Matusadona National Park - Zimbabwe
55. Chizarira National Park- Zimbabwe
56. Hobby Park - Gauteng
57. Hennops - Gauteng
Please see post #2 for the full list...

2017/04/05, 05:25 AM
NEON DEON
Their must be more than 6 members here that have done more than 50
different trail in their off road carreer , come on guys step up yo the plate
and enter , its only 50 bucks. Or around $4, 250 meticash , two beers , one
double and coke .
2017/04/05, 03:59 PM
Mad Manny

5th was NEON DEON
6th was 4RNRRON
Parabens! We have our SEVENTH!
Grips!
Christo/Grips list
1. Westcoast - Stransfontein to Kleinzee 1991
2. Westcoast - Koiignaas
3. Witsand Dune Route
4. Zeekoe baard Dune Route
5. Skerpioenpark 4x4 Dune competition
6. Kopfontein River route
7. Kopfontein dune route
8. Namib Luderitz to Walvisbay
9. Biesies se berg 4x4 route
10. Waterford
11. Freilingspan
12. 4x4 Mega world dune competition
13. Paleisheuwel dune competition
14. Port Nolloth Old Crayfish Factory dune drive
15. Waterford.
16. Olifantshoek 4x4 competition
17. Postmasburg Vermeulens Eco 4x4 dune competition
18. Ghoerapan
19. Knysna 4x4 route
20. Port Nolloth Oubeep roete.
21. Gariepdam 4x4 track
22. Donkerpoort 4x4 route
23. Ai AIS
24. Doringbaai coast drive
25. Srandfontein Private 4x4 dune route
26. Henties
27. Swakopmund
28. Hippoo pools
29. Ruacana Falls
30. Saldana to Strandfontein 1993
31. Brazil West Coast.
32. olifantshoek Micro Wave tower.
33. Upington Delta 4x4 dune competition.
34. Khamkiri 4x4 Trail
35. Van Zyls Dune Drive
36. Zwartberg Pass
37. Old Spektakel Pass
38. WildeperdeHoek Pass
39. Groenriviermond
40. Alexanderbaai Orange river mouth
41. Knysana to Port Nolloth coast tour.
42. Port Nolloth White Dunes
43. Hondeklipbaai 4x4 drive
44. Olifantshoek Elliesrust koms tower.
45. Pearsonshunt dune competition
46. Kanoneiland Boervereniging 4x4 track
47. Molopo river drive
48. Brandberg Namibia
49. Swartberg pass.
50. Pertified Forest Namibia
51. Soebatsfontein Namaqualand
52. Kanoneiland Boervereniging 4x4 track
53. Khamkiri 4x4 Trail
54. Transboegoe
55. Spitskopdam
56. Bloemhoffdam
57. Sunsetview Douglas
58. Seremoneng Private 4x4 drive.
59. Klein Aus Vista
60. Kolmannskuppe
2017/04/05, 06:18 PM
grips
Quote:

5th was NEON DEON
6th was 4RNRRON
Parabens! We have our SEVENTH!
Grips!
Still think the most extreme 4x4 I did was building overhead lines. Needed
to make our own roads and Bundubasing all day long. I have tested the
limits of Unimog`s, Samil 50`s and Land Cruisers during that phase of my
life. Still to this day believe very few things can beat a Mog in rock
crawling.;D;D
2017/04/05, 06:43 PM
Mike Nel GX
Looking at the list, it makes me note 3 things:
1) I am behind on trails
2) I need more holiday to complete trails
3) Junks Status came at the wrong time
2017/04/05, 09:01 PM
grips
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Nel FJ

Looking at the list, it makes me note 3 things:
1) I am behind on trails
2) I need more holiday to complete trails
3) Junks Status came at the wrong time
Mike maybe when you are 55 your list will be longer;D;D
Age sort of have advantage on this one;D;D
2017/04/06, 09:33 AM
Mike Nel GX
Quote:
Originally Posted by grips

Mike maybe when you are 55 your list will be longer;D;D
Age sort of have advantage on this one;D;D
Ja Oom. My vrou hoop ook dinge gaan langer wees as ek 55 is;D
Ek is so half pad met die lys. Probleem is, ek gaan baie van dit moet oor
doen want ek het nie foto's nie:mad:
2017/04/06, 09:38 AM
Reenen
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Nel FJ

Ja Oom. My vrou hoop ook dinge gaan langer wees as ek 55
is;D
Ek is so half pad met die lys. Probleem is, ek gaan baie van
dit moet oor doen want ek het nie foto's nie:mad:
Is jy nog in as co-driver? Carnage canyon 16 junie?
2017/04/10, 09:56 AM
NEON DEON
Come trail driver , get your list together and enter , You need not have
proof of every trail driven before you can submit , submit your list and then
Manny will go evaluate the list and if he is not convinced he will ask you to
provide him with proof that you have done the selected trails , if you have
the proof then he will list your on the tread , and you will get the
acknowledgement . easy peasy , I am aware that listing 50 trails does
become a problem somewhere after 35 as it is one trail listed not driven ,
some guys go out to the same play area every weekend , but you can only
list it once .
2017/04/10, 10:37 AM
Mad Manny
MadManny
Cinquenta Challenge:
I'm on 39.
I'll be doing The Gorge & Bass lake soon.
In May I do a new Trail through the Bridgestone Challenge.
Hope to hit 50 by September.
Dos Sete Diablos:
I have a vague plan which I'll finalise soon.

Will do 3 of the 7 this year... maybe 4.
Will do the balance next year.
Cento Extremos:
The 5 extreme trails were specifically chosen because a vehicle like Fearless
cannot do them.
They are for your more modded vehicles (Modded Rubi's etc).
So Cento Extremos is not for me.
2017/04/10, 03:38 PM
grips
1 Attachment(s)
Quote:
The 5 extreme trails were specifically chosen because a

vehicle like Fearless cannot do them.
They are for your more modded vehicles (Modded Rubi's
etc).
So Cento Extremos is not for me.
Come and visit me soon. I have a SFA and a set of 35`s workshop. Will just
take a grinder and enlarge the mudguards to take the 35`s with a six inch
lift. I am sure with a SFA and 35`s Fearless will be pretty capable of doing
extreme trials.
If you feel you have to less power for the 35`s we can slap in a D4D
Cruiser v8. I know you hate big petrol engines.;D;D
2017/04/10, 03:54 PM
Mad Manny
But going SFA & 35's will affect the turning circle - and you know how I
hate 4x4's that can't turn...
2017/04/10, 04:31 PM
grips
Quote:

But going SFA & 35's will affect the turning circle - and you
know how I hate 4x4's that can't turn...
So we need to add rear wheel steering;D;D
2017/04/10, 06:39 PM
Flipside
Quote:

So we need to add rear wheel steering;D;D
Please add an actual competent driver too :) :)
2017/04/10, 06:55 PM
Mad Manny
Quote:

Watchit!
2017/04/10, 09:26 PM
grips
Quote:

No he is a 4x4 god;D;D
2017/04/10, 09:34 PM
Flipside
double post
2017/04/10, 09:38 PM
Flipside
Quote:

No he is a 4x4 god;D;D
Jip, observing from a distance
2017/04/12, 09:07 PM
Mad Manny
The Extreme guys need to do Rhino Challenge.
This needs to be arranged as Rhino Challenge is closed.

I will call Berakah & chat to them.
I reckon a weekend in late October would be good.
Extreme guys?
2017/04/12, 09:10 PM
rechardt
Quote:

The Extreme guys need to do Rhino Challenge.
This needs to be arranged as Rhino Challenge is closed.

I will call Berakah & chat to them.
I reckon a weekend in late October would be good.
Extreme guys?
Rhino... Extreme...??
2017/04/12, 09:19 PM
Rainier Vermaak
Quote:
Originally Posted by rechardt

Obviously nie vir jou nie.
Net gewone mense....
2017/04/12, 09:22 PM
Mad Manny
Quote:

Have you seen it?

Have you done it?
Do you know why it was closed?
2017/04/12, 09:26 PM
rechardt
Quote:

Have you seen it?
Have you done it?
Yes I've seen it..Yes I have done it...twice. in 2006 with a standard Colt 2.8
and again in 2007 with my first Hilux .I shall send u the pics as soon as I
am back in SA. Albeit.. You know I'm good for it.
2017/04/12, 09:46 PM
Mad Manny
Quote:
Yes I've seen it..Yes I have done it...twice. in 2006 with a

standard Colt 2.8 and again in 2007 with my first Hilux .I
shall send u the pics as soon as I am back in SA. Albeit.. You
know I'm good for it.
Cannot wait Reshad... never knew you had it in you!;D
2017/04/13, 11:06 AM
Rainier Vermaak
There is a slight difference between now and 2006.
In 2006 D3's were thought to be ultra reliable....
2017/04/13, 04:15 PM
Mad Manny
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rainier Vermaak

There is a slight difference between now and 2006.
In 2006 D3's were thought to be ultra reliable....
In 2006 Jeep was owned by a different company... think it was Ford...
2017/04/13, 04:45 PM
Reenen
Quote:

In 2006 Jeep was owned by a different company... think it
was Ford...
Wat rook jy, ek soek ook daarvan
2017/04/13, 04:56 PM
Mad Manny
Quote:

Wat rook jy, ek soek ook daarvan
Ja, I see Ford never owned Jeep...

It was Chrysler or someone in 2006
2017/04/13, 06:53 PM
Rainier Vermaak
Quote:

Ja, I see Ford never owned Jeep...
It was Chrysler or someone in 2006
The company was called Daimler-Chrysler numbnuts....
2017/04/19, 12:12 PM
NEON DEON
No more entrants to be TRAIL MASTERS?
2017/04/19, 02:59 PM
Tweeling
Quote:

Have you seen it?
Have you done it?
The spare shops ran out of tie rods and drive shafts::);D
2017/04/19, 04:12 PM
Mad Manny
Quote:

No more entrants to be TRAIL MASTERS?
There are a few guys working on their lists of 50...
2017/04/19, 04:56 PM
NEON DEON
If they working on the list ,means they have not done the 50 required,
going to take them time to post theirs.
2017/04/20, 05:23 AM
Hermanator
Quote:

If they working on the list ,means they have not done the 50
required, going to take them time to post theirs.
It seems the biggest issue here is not the number of trails or obstacle
courses but the evidence required for proof. Most to these were done by
guys who wanted to have fun, to enjoy themselves and to see some
awesome places. They probably did not think of designing the evidence to
proof the happening.
2017/04/20, 06:34 AM
NEON DEON
Enter and post your list , then Manny will pic some of the trails from the list
in order for you to supply the proof . The way I see it is if you say you have
done Baboons pass , and you drive a 4x4 that you own that is capable of
doing Baboons he is not going to ask for proof , drive a Pruis he will want
the proof .
We played around the Chimes mine dumps for nearly two years , plenty
trails their but I could only list it once , same as Hennops , DeWILT , Groen
kloof , guys go out to these places regularly , but you can only list it once.
Manny started this post to get guys involved , If you are short a trail or two
to add your name to the " done 50 list " then go out and do so . but it
seems that its easier to come up with an excuse as to why I cant post my
50 trails list because I dont have all the proof that actually listing it .
Come on guys , lets be honest , these days its way easier to sit behind the
keyboard and bemoan the state of affairs than getting off our backsides
and go do something. IF ITS NOT THE POSSIBLE DAMAGE TO MY VERY
EXPENSIVE 4X4 THEN ITS FUEL COSTS , or kids in school / varsity . we can
always find excuses not to do something , finding a reason to do it very
hard .
We are all part of this Forum as the "sport " is in our blood , we enjoy it .
So why is it so difficult to actually go out and do so ?
Yes I have a modified Rubicon , to replace it with a new one with mods will
be over a BAR. But I did not buy it to go to the Mall , I have it for
adventure . to go offroad , see that amazing place that can only be reached
by 4x4 .
Am I the ultimate trail master , no I dont think so but would like to be
counted as one of them because I believe that I have the skill and
dedication to be counted . I have mentioned it before , I dont believe that
this forum with all its members have only 7-10 guys that could be Trail
masters , or is the slep of posting up the list just one to many and could
not be bothered ?
2017/04/20, 06:45 AM
grips
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermanator

It seems the biggest issue here is not the number of trails or
obstacle courses but the evidence required for proof. Most to
these were done by guys who wanted to have fun, to enjoy
themselves and to see some awesome places. They probably
did not think of designing the evidence to proof the
happening.
I think that is everyone`s problem. I did many trails that I have no proof
of. Wanted to add one particular trail to my list.
Could not find any pic`s which I was 100% sure I do have. So I excluded it
from my list. Only to find the pic`s on my external hard drive while looking
for something else yesterday.
Still the most hardcore 4x4 I did was while building overhead lines. On one
such an occasion I hooked the conductors behind the Mog and went down a
very steep incline. When I reached the bottom I realized I was in a trap.
With all lockers on the Mog made it to the top again. Lots of slipping sliding
bouncing over boulders. To this day I do not believe another 4x4 would
have made that trip. If only we had phones with decent cameras back
then.;D
2017/04/20, 07:14 AM
Reenen
Quote:

I think that is everyone`s problem. I did many trails that I
have no proof of. Wanted to add one particular trail to my
list.
Could not find any pic`s which I was 100% sure I do have.
So I excluded it from my list. Only to find the pic`s on my
external hard drive while looking for something else
yesterday.
Still the most hardcore 4x4 I did was while building

overhead lines. On one such an occasion I hooked the
conductors behind the Mog and went down a very steep
incline. When I reached the bottom I realized I was in a
trap. With all lockers on the Mog made it to the top again.
Lots of slipping sliding bouncing over boulders. To this day I
do not believe another 4x4 would have made that trip. If
only we had phones with decent cameras back then.;D
En baie plekke waar ons ry is nie eens n "roete" nie.
Ek het nie my 4x4's gekoop vir roetes nie. Die 4x4 waarmee ek die meeste
4x4 gebruik, sal seker nooit n 4x4 roete sien nie. Maar hy doen baie
strawwer 4x4 werk by my in berge waar bitter min saam met hom sal loop.
2017/04/20, 07:26 AM
Daniek
My list will be in by next week.
2017/04/20, 11:24 AM
DVR
Nou wat se lysies moet ons nou maak , lyk nie vir my ek
qualify vir al julle klomp wilde manne nie .;D
2017/04/20, 12:50 PM
Hermanator
Quote:

Am I the ultimate trail master , no I dont think so but would
like to be counted as one of them because I believe that I
have the skill and dedication to be counted . I have
mentioned it before , I dont believe that this forum with all
its members have only 7-10 guys that could be Trail masters
, or is the slep of posting up the list just one to many and
could not be bothered ?
Very valid and true statement. In my case I just did not do the required
number (lots of repetitions on Bonniedale, Vleesbaai, Kleinkranz, even
Berakah). And I had the privilege to spend two days in the Empty Quarter
in the UAE with a Ford Explorer.
I will get to maybe 10 or 15, but the qualifying number of 50 will take quite
a number of years for me. I really do not qualify now.
2017/04/24, 09:17 AM
NEON DEON
Anybody had the chance to complete and submit their list this weekend ?
2017/04/24, 09:27 AM
Daniek
My list is complete. Will register, pay and submit in the next day or three.
2017/05/02, 07:59 AM
NEON DEON
After another nice long weekend , will we see some more names on the 50
trails list ? I also have not seen any participants for any of the extreme
trails or challenges . lets keep the idea alive ,I am aware I push , but this is
a awesome idea .
2017/05/02, 04:26 PM
Mad Manny
All quiet here on the Western Front.
I've got myself to 40 so far.
Hoping a few more 50 lists will arrive soon.
2017/05/02, 09:54 PM
Mad Manny

3rd was Ben Van Dyk.
4th Cinquenta Qualifier was Flipside...
5th NEON DEON
6th 4RNRRON
7th Grips
We have Number Eight!
8th Daniek
DanieK's list!
1. Bospoort 4x4 (When ?)

2. Groenkloof 4x4 (When ?)
3. Wolwekloof 4x4 (When ?)
4. Bass Lake 4x4 (When ?)
5. Namibia (Apr 2003) – Rosh Pinah 4x4
6. Namibia (Apr 2003) – Sossos Vlei
7. Namibia (Apr 2003) – Sandwich Harbour
8. Namibia (Apr 2003) – Ais-Ais
9. Namibia (Apr 2003) – Langstrand Dunes
10. Lesotho (Sep 2003) – Sani Pass/Katsi Dam
11. Lesotho (Sep 2003) – Semonkong/Malutsenyane Waterfall
12. Lundeansnek Pass (Sep 2003)
13. Naudesnek Pass (Sep 2003)
14. Pitseng Pass (Sep 2003)
15. Protea Eco 4x4 (Dec 2003)
16. Baviaanskloof (Apr 2004)
17. Vleesbaai 4x4 (Apr 2004)
18. Welgedacht 4x4 (Jun 2004)
19. Kareekrans 4x4 (Mar 2005)
20. Rietfontein 4x4 (Apr 2005)
21. Khama Rhino Sanctuary (Jul 2005)
22. Tsodilo Hills (Jul 2005)
23. Kubu Island (Jul 2005)
24. Chobe NP (Jul 2005)
25. Vic Falls (Jul 2005)
26. Caprivi/Bum Hill (Jul 2015)
27. Hennops 4x4 (Sep 2005)
28. Sodwana/Lake Sibeya/Kosi bay (Sep 2005)
29. Ponta do Ouro/Ponta Malongane (Sep 2005)
30. Astor Shipwreck – Transkei Wildcoast (Dec 2005)
31. De Wild 4x4 (May 2006)
32. Serendipity 4x4 (Aug 2006)
33. Transkei Wildcoast (Des 2006) – Kei Mouth/Jacaranda Shipwreck
34. Rooi Ivoor 4x4 (Oct 2006)
35. Nata Bird Sanctuary/Sua Pan, Botswana (Mar 2007)
36. Berakah (Apr 2007)
37. Korannaberg/Van Zoelenshoek (Sep 2007)
38. Lekgalameetse, Orrie Baragwanath Pass (Dec 2012)
39. Joubert’s Pass (Jun 2014)
40. Volunteershoek Pass (Jun 2014)
41. Tiffendell/Tennehead Mountain Reserve (Jun 2014)
42. Sederberge (Various passes) (Jan 2015)
43. Amatikulu (Jan 2016)
44. Die Plaat, Gansbaai (Mar 2016)
45. 3 Provinces (Apr 2016)
46. Mabuasehube (Jul 2016)
47. Ongeluksnek Pass (Sep 2016)
48. Bastervoetpad Pass (Sep 2016)
49. Otto du Plessis Pass (Sep 2016)
50. DVR Falls Trip (Nov 2016)
51. Ribbokkloof 4x4 (Mar 2017)
52. Ossewa 4x4, Barberton (Apr 2017)
2017/05/03, 06:11 AM
NEON DEON
Eight has done it , who is going to claim the Tenth spot to complete the top
ten ?
2017/05/10, 08:12 PM
NEON DEON
No new trail master in the last week? Guys this is for you, we also need to
plan a day to go attemt some of the extreme challenges, but if their is no
participants then no reason to plan its a lost cause .
I have paid my entry fee , maybe I must ask Manny to transfer it as
membership fees to the A group?
2017/05/11, 06:37 AM
grips
I think that there is a lot of guys out there that have done more than 50
trails / overlanding trips. Thinking of it a few names comes to mind. I want
to add something but think Oom Dirk is going to hammer me>:D>:D
I plan to do the Seven Devils. Even bought another 4x4 that is more suited
to the tighter trails. Yes Many it does have a better turning circle than the
Yank Ranger.;D;D
Hope to invade Gauteng/North West early sometime next year and see if I
can add some of the famous trails behind my name.
Do not think there is any dune trail left in the NC that I have not done.
Still have a dream to take the Yank Ranger to the Namib.
2017/05/11, 07:07 AM
Daniek
Just taking the trip down memory lane, compiling the list, was worth it.
What a privilege to have had the opportunity. And then there is still plenty
to follow.
2017/05/16, 02:28 PM
Mad Manny
I have gone back to the 4x4 Action Group, after other options lead to dead
ends, and asked them to design & sponsor the Certificates.
At least they are reliable...
2017/05/16, 02:32 PM
Jeanvn
Manny how fixed is the no trailer rule?
2017/05/16, 02:36 PM
Mad Manny
Quote:

Manny how fixed is the no trailer rule?
What 'no trailer'rule?
2017/05/16, 02:42 PM
Jeanvn
Quote:

What 'no trailer'rule?
Rules:
1. You must complete all 7 challenges within 24 months of completing the
1st one.
2. Only Challenges done after 1 January 2017 qualify.
3. You must submit proof (photos or video etc.) within 7 days of
completion.
4. Vehicle Specifications:
• No restrictions to vehicle mods, but the vehicle must be road legal,
licensed & registered.
• The vehicle must be owned by the competitor
• Different vehicles may be used, providing the competitor can prove they
owned the vehicle at the time.
• The vehicle must be driven to the challenge, not taken on a flatbed or
trailer or towed.
This one.
2017/05/16, 02:44 PM
Daniek
Maybe he is referring to the rule that the vehicle shall be driven to each
location and not towed there on a trailer.
2017/05/16, 02:45 PM
Mad Manny
Ahh, I thought you were talking about an Off Road Trailer!;D
Is this for Carnage Canyon?
I haven't read the Thread lately, what vehicle & why are you towing it?
2017/05/16, 02:50 PM
Dirk
Quote:

I have gone back to the 4x4 Action Group, after other
options lead to dead ends, and asked them to design &
sponsor the Certificates.
At least they are reliable...
Sorry, but that is a joke.
I will arrange it, strange that between your options and leads you never
thought of asking the one person who has direct access to design and print
facilities.
I will arrange it, please email requirements.
2017/05/16, 03:13 PM
Mad Manny
Thanks Dirk, I asked a Commercial member & they said they'd do it - but
then never came through
I'll mail you something soon.
2017/05/16, 03:16 PM
Reenen
Quote:

Ahh, I thought you were talking about an Off Road Trailer!;D
Is this for Carnage Canyon?
I haven't read the Thread lately, what vehicle & why are you
towing it?
We want to put his Jeep behind my dustbin on a trailer to save fuel.
2017/05/16, 04:19 PM
PhlippieV
Quote:

We want to put his Jeep behind my dustbin on a trailer to
save fuel.
Won't it count if you drive the jeep from the previous night's
accommodation to the challenge?
The rule doesn't note where it must be driven from?
Devil's advocate...
2017/05/16, 04:23 PM
Mad Manny
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhlippieV

Won't it count if you drive the jeep from the previous night's
accommodation to the challenge?
The rule doesn't note where it must be driven from?
Devil's advocate...
Exactly...
Jean, do what this smartas... err... clever child suggests.;D

If you make Carnage Canyon then the towing rule is a minor issue...
So I'll allow, in this case.
.
2017/05/26, 09:15 AM
NEON DEON
Any updates on this ?
2017/06/09, 10:32 AM
NEON DEON
Come guys , we cant let this brilliant idea die , in the last two weeks not
much happened here .
2017/06/09, 08:10 PM
gualter
I'm working on my list
2017/06/09, 08:21 PM
Mad Manny
FEEDBACK:
Cinquenta Conquistadors
Gualter & I are working on our list of 50.
We are both just past 40.
Dos Sete Diablos

Grips & Malkoppie will start their 7 Devils challenge next year.
Cinco Extremos
The very first event of the 5 Extreme Challenges is being held next
weekend.
Carnage Canyon.
About 15 vehicles are going.
So Ultimate Trail Master is chugging along nicely...
2017/06/09, 08:41 PM
KurtG
I'm on 23 trails now. A long way to go but then I have 14 years until I
catch up to Manny in age....
2017/06/09, 08:45 PM
gualter
I'm doing Sani pass end of the month
2017/06/09, 08:46 PM
KurtG
Quote:
Originally Posted by gualter

I'm doing Sani pass end of the month
I did that in a 2008 Forester. Yawn......
2017/06/20, 12:36 PM
Mad Manny
FEEDBACK:
We've got nearly 10 qualifiers already.
Gualter & I are working on our list of 50.

We are both just past 42.
Dos Sete Diablos

Su-SWYS-ki is way ahead, he has done:
Koos se Klim at Moegatle.
Moolmanshoek.
He also did Carnage Canyon up to Dead Dog Gorge.
Carnage is NOT on the Sete Diablos list, but I've allowed it as a substitution
& I was there to verify he made it.
It is on the Cento Extremos list, so since he did 85%, I felt it's justified.
Grips & Malkoppie will start their 7 Devils challenge next year.
Cinco Extremos
The very first event of the 5 Extreme Challenges was last weekend.
Carnage Canyon.
Due to the water flow THIS YEAR, I've allowed them to add Carnage as
long they got as far as DDG (Dead Dog Gorge).
Ordinarily you'd need to do the next 600m & get to 'The Beach'.
About 5 entrants, including Mrs LREX, made it - so Cento Extremos is now

UNDERWAY!!!
Ultimate Trail Master is chugging along nicely...
2017/07/18, 10:42 AM
NEON DEON
Three weeks has gone by , and not a new post on this thread , come guys ,
add your names to the lists . this is still a great idea .
2017/07/21, 08:55 AM
castos
Hi guys
We will be testing our first winch hill with a campsite on top with 360deg
view of the lowveld this weekend. To my knowledge it will be the first in SA
and we are excited.
Might be something to add to the Trail master?
2017/07/21, 09:58 AM
grips
1 Attachment(s)
I can add another one to my list even have the
photographic proof.;D;D
Attachment 454814
2017/07/25, 09:07 PM
Mad Manny
Quote:
Originally Posted by castos

Hi guys
We will be testing our first winch hill with a campsite on top

with 360deg view of the lowveld this weekend. To my
knowledge it will be the first in SA and we are excited.
Might be something to add to the Trail master?
Mail me.
Is this for the Cinquenta Conquistadors category?
2017/07/25, 09:09 PM
Mad Manny
Epa Patrao, I am on 46... only 4 to go to 50...
How are you doing Gualter?
2017/07/25, 09:48 PM
grips
Quote:

Amper daar ouman;D;D
Must say Manny is one of the most active 4wheelers on the forum. For him
it is easier to mention the weekends not 4x4`ing than those he does.
Welldone 4x4god.;D;D
2017/07/26, 04:50 AM
gualter
Quote:

I'm still on 43 or 44 not even sure

This is taking longer than expected
Need to get out there this weekend
2017/07/26, 05:05 AM
gualter
Just checked now

I'm on 42 only[emoji24][emoji24][emoji24][emoji24]
Long way to go
2017/08/28, 09:22 PM
NEON DEON
This weekend it's Briekmerk 3 , join and get to add a mark on your list
2017/08/29, 06:29 AM
grips
Deon I plan to do a road trip next year sometime that will include
Briekmerk.
On this thread and the idea to have certain 4x4 categories which I think is
a very excellent idea right from the start.
What I cannot believe is the lack of interest.
If I read the many threads here about 4x4 trails, overlanding and even
extreme trails one would think that 4x4Community is for the
diehard 4x4 enthusiast. I am slowly changing my view on this. Looks like
everyone wants a 4x4, want his name connected to 4x4 activities or even
better brag about his 4x4 and his activities.
The more I think about it here are very few that are getting dust on their
4x4`s.
I see this lifted big wheel 4x4`s in town every day. I am part af all 4x4
groups in the area. You never see these 4x4`s on outings.
Now the question how much for real and how much for show.
2017/08/29, 06:43 AM
NEON DEON
Christo , (grips) think I have your name right , I think that fact could be the
guts of a new thread , But I have to agree with you , very few hardcore 4x4
guys left over. A lot of buyers with the bucs take their new toy to have it
pimped to the max to be able to show it off in the mall , they not going to
take their million buck pimped toy out to go play in the dust , are you craze
mad or both .
I had a chat to Shane JKA a while ago and he confirmed it o me , they have
many customers at ZONE that have the most insane rigs built , but not
keen to use them . To me its the same as the guys that own Porsche and
Ferrari , parked in a garage covered with a specail cover just to say he has
one , to scared to drive it , could get a scratch on it .
Aaaagg , to each his own , Even Manny told me I am part of a dying breed ,
most newbys are very keen keyboard offroaders , but not keen to go off
road .
2017/09/26, 02:24 PM
Mad Manny
Well, we have a Champion in the making

Francois Herbst (Su-swys-ki) has already completed FIVE of the SEVEN
Challenges in Dos Sete Diablos (The 7 Devils)
1. Moolmans hoek 11 March 2017

2. Koos se klim @ Moegatle 08 March 2017
3. Carnage Canyon 16 June 2017 ***
4. Briekmerk @ Att se GAt 2 September 2017
5. Hells hoogte @ 3 Provinsies 24 September 2017
*** I allowed a substitution, I was there, I witnessed it.
2017/09/26, 04:04 PM
grips
Well done Francois.;D;D Good to see there are still people out there that is
serious about 4x4;D
2017/09/26, 04:17 PM
Mad Manny
Francois will be doing Baboons soon, he should be the World's First Dos
Sete Diablos Ultimate Trail Master...
2017/09/26, 04:36 PM
KurtG
Awesome stuff!
2017/09/26, 06:50 PM
Daniek
Mooi so Francois.
2017/10/15, 08:28 PM
Mad Manny
Quote:
Well, we have a Champion in the making

Francois Herbst (Su-swys-ki) has already completed FIVE of
the SEVEN Challenges in Dos Sete Diablos (The 7 Devils)

2. Koos se klim @ Moegatle 08 March 2017
3. Carnage Canyon 16 June 2017 ***
4. Briekmerk @ Att se GAt 2 September 2017
Quote:

Francois will be doing Baboons soon, he should be the
World's First Dos Sete Diablos Ultimate Trail Master...
He did Baboons, he only has ONE more to do to be the World's First Dos
Sete Diablos Conquistador...
2017/12/03, 10:04 PM
grips
50 for the 4x4god;D;D
2017/12/13, 07:22 AM
KurtG
Quote:

50 for the 4x4god;D;D
Almost as many trails as his age....
2017/12/27, 03:26 PM
Mad Manny
CONGRATULATIONS
Francois!!!
Francois Herbst (Su-swys-ki) has completed SEVEN Challenges in Dos Sete
Diablos (The 7 Devils)
Francois completed the following:

2. Koos se klim @ Mogatle 08 March 2017
3. Carnage Canyon 16 June 2017***
4. Briekmerk @ Att se Gat 2 September 2017
6. Baboons Pass Lesotho 5 - 8 October 2017
7. Brakkenduine EC 27 December 2017
Francois Herbst (Su-SWYS-ki) is the 9th ever Ultimate Trail Master but the
first to complete Dos Sete Diablos
Well done Francois! I will contact you in January to present you with your
certificate!
2017/12/27, 03:40 PM
KurtG
Well done Francois, jolly good work old chap [emoji1303]
2017/12/27, 04:22 PM
Mad Manny
Francois, as per post #9, in addition to the sticker & certificate, you'll
receive, from our Sponsors:
Autoline (Sidestep) - A Winch for 1st competitor to complete Dos

Sete Diablos
Goloso (Johan Slabbert) - R2000 meal voucher for first competitor
to complete Dos Sete Diablos.
THANK YOU to our generous Sponsors!!!
Johan Slabbert is no longer on the Forum, but I have contacted him & he
will be honouring his sponsorship...
2017/12/27, 04:40 PM
Oppies3800
Quote:
Johan Slabbert is no longer on the Forum, but I have

contacted him & he will be honouring his sponsorship...
That's a nice gesture.
Well done
2017/12/27, 05:15 PM
Hedgehog
Well done Francois
2017/12/27, 06:26 PM
Woolf
Mooi Francois!
2017/12/28, 09:12 AM
CornellMans
So I am one of those okes that own a 4x4 but are too #### scared to take
in on any track or road that is mildly intimidating. This is also my daily
runner and our long distance vehicle. But looking at the lists of al the
trails/tracks/roads some of the guys did, I can probably get up to 10 or 15
out of the 50. Hopefully I'll be able to add a few more this new year. Funds
are just always a problem, and unfortunately I can fork out a few thousand
rand every now and then to repair damages. But man would I love the
adventure. Maybe it becomes easier when the kids get older.
2017/12/28, 10:08 AM
Dirk
With careful driving, and being sensible you should be able to drive most
regular (note regular) trails without damage, as long as your ego does not
take over and you prepared to take an escape route where unsure. (I think
ego and being silly is probably the biggest reason for vehicle damage). This
is also where training plays a big role. Know your vehicle and limits and you
should be fine.
2017/12/28, 10:49 AM
veedub
Well done Johan...
2017/12/28, 11:52 AM
Mad Manny
So, at the END of 2017 we have NINE Ultimate Trail Masters.

You can regard these guys as "Know their stuff" chaps.
Eight Became Ultimate Trail Master Conquistadors through Cinquenta
Desafios
One through the slightly more prestigious Dos Sete Diablos.
We still don't have a single Cinco Extremos Conquistador, but a few guys
are plotting to attempt it in 2018...
ROLL OF HONOUR:
Ultimate Trail Masters
First Engel.
2nd Jurgen Steyn.
3rd Ben Van Dyk.
4th Flipside
5th NEON DEON
6th 4RNRRON
7th Grips
8th DanieK
9th ?
Dos Sete Diablos (The 7 Devils)
First Francois Herbst.

2nd ?
2017/12/28, 07:28 PM
Paul#25
Well done to all involved.
2017/12/31, 05:36 PM
Mad Manny
The Great & Glorious Mad Manny has completed his Cinquenta Desafios
Challenge...
The 10th person ever to become an Ultimate Trail Master
I went to 53 because some items are repeats (see #7 & 53, #22 & 23, #26
& 27).
These were completely different routes & obstacles on different days, but I
decided to play it safe as they are the same venue.
As far as I know I am the first Cinquenta Conquistador to complete all 50

IN THE SAME VEHICLE.
I have now done over 100 4x4 Outings in that vehicle!
I vaguely recall doing Hiedelberg too. but can find no records, I may have
amnesia!
I humbly submit my list:

2010
1. Halfway Toyota 4x4 Training Silvermine (Near Maropeng)
2011 - 2016
2. Berakah (5 times)
3. Hennops (Many times)
4. Hennops Pride (3 times)
5. De Wildt (Over 12 times)
6. Att Se Gat (A few times, 4 - 6)
7. Moegatle (Many times)
8. Diggers Hole (Forum 5th Birthday)
9. Bosvark/All Out Africa/Hobby Park (once or twice per name)
10. Brakkenduine (@ 1st NGTG)
11. DroogeHeuwel - Randfontein (3 times)
12. Jobedi (Twice)
13. Donkerpoort 4x4 (twice)
14. Rebellie - Clarens (twice)
15. Moolmanshoek
16. Meiringskloof
17. Atlantis Dunes
18. 3 Provinces - Main Trail (twice, including Hells Hoogte)
19. Waterford (Groblershoop NC) Whooooopah
20. Boegoebergpas (Groblershoop NC) Whooooopah
21. Skid Pan Event @ Zwartkops
22. Wolwekloof - Trail
23. WolweKloof - Bridgestone Challenge
24. Spookspruit - Bridgestone Challenge
25. McCarthy Rhinopark - Bridgestone Challenge
26. Sandwani - Bridgestone Challenge
27. Sandwani - Trail
28. Riverwild (Nelspruit)
29. Nzikazi River (Kruger Gate)
30. Piet Se Pad (MP/Swazi border)
31. Iquana Track & Trail Camping
32. River Trip - Molotosi - Letaba Camping
33. Olifantsrivier Lodge 4x4 Event
34. Leeuenskloof (Near Harties) – Bridgestone Challenge
35. Rust De Winter - Mountain Trail Camping
36. Base4 (4WDCSA Home Track) AAWDC Fun Day & RFAD 4x4 Day
37. Serendipity
38. Kungwini Camping
39. Groenkloof with Suzuki 4x4
40. Buffalo Gorge Camping
41. The Wedge - Beyer’s Naude Dr
42. Berg & Bush GTG (De Wildt to Karee Krans) Towing Trailer 3 - 5 June
2016 Camping
2017
43. Piesangkloof (Mooinooi) 14 April 2017
44. In The Gorge/Lost Horizons (Hekpoort) 22 April 2017
45. Tshekweni in Dinokeng for Bridgestone 21 May 2017 Camping
46. Chimes (c Gualter) 28 May 2017
47. Carnage Canyon Supporter/Spectator 16 - 18 June 2017 (L/R Camping
).
48. Beestekraal 4x4 North West 2 July 2017
49. DeVoetPadKloof for Bridgestone Challenge 22 July 2017 Camping
50. Lekoa Lodge for Bridgestone Nite Challenge 23 September 2017
Camping
51. Malonjeni Guest Farm for Bridgestone Final 25 November 2017
Camping
52. Berg En Rivier Bronkhorstspruit 2 December 2017 Camping
53. BosvarkS Diggers Hole (See #7) Cullinan 30 December 2017
2017/12/31, 05:49 PM
Chris Stoffel
Quote:
Francois, as per post #9, in addition to the sticker &

certificate, you'll receive, from our Sponsors:
Autoline (Sidestep) - A Winch for 1st competitor to

complete Dos Sete Diablos
Goloso (Johan Slabbert) - R2000 meal voucher for
first competitor to complete Dos Sete Diablos.
THANK YOU to our generous Sponsors!!!
Johan Slabbert is no longer on the Forum, but I have

contacted him & he will be honouring his sponsorship...
Thanks Johan, you are a Man of Honour.
2017/12/31, 05:55 PM
Chris Stoffel
Well done Manny, you are a Man of Action.;D
2017/12/31, 05:56 PM
hunter26
Wow,well done Manny and you accomplished this with all tyres on the floor.
Well done to the other achievers
2017/12/31, 05:57 PM
Mal Hannes
Well Done Mad man!
Awesome Gentleman Johan!
This is fun and encouraging!
2017/12/31, 05:59 PM
Flipside
Congratulations Francois,
That was a busy year.
Your next year will be busier with the youngster [emoji4]
Well done Manny, it took you long enough...
2017/12/31, 06:00 PM
Prof
Well done, Manoel[emoji2]
2018/01/01, 05:50 AM
Oppies3800
Manny is too modest... well done Manny
2018/01/01, 06:57 AM
Nico-MAD
Well done Many. So Henri needs to organize a day at Bass Lake to add to
your list. Nice easy day and great braai facilities. Even great cooling off in
the lake.
Nico>:D
2018/01/01, 07:10 AM
grips
Welldone Francois. ;D;D You have done some though trails.
Manny jou ou bogger, mooi man;D;D
2018/01/01, 07:24 AM
Baasvark
Well done Manny!
Truly an accomplishment! We need a little more 4x4ing amd less

keyboarding [emoji3] - and yes, I too am guilty of the latter!
Post some pics to wet our appetites...
2018/01/01, 09:48 AM
Mad Manny
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nico-MAD

Well done Many. So Henri needs to organize a day at Bass
Lake to add to your list. Nice easy day and great braai
facilities. Even great cooling off in the lake.
Nico>:D
Interesting story:
As you know - I have little regard for the Trail owners of South Africa, only
De Wildt & Alex of Moegatle have any customer focus & business acumen
I decide to use the last Saturday of 2017 to do my 53d event so that I

could become a UTM before 2018.
I also wanted the 10th spot overall.
I chose Bass Lake as it is one of the few trails nearby that I haven't done. I
check their Website & FB page - all looks good, I send an online enquiry
just to check they are open.
It's last Thursday & I want to go Saturday.
I needed some company, but it's a bad time of year & of course, it's very
short notice.
I invite 78 odd people via Whatsapp.
About 9 respond but there are a few questions - I go back to their web
page & there is now a big RED pop up notice saying they are closed! :o
I then contact Heidelberg - not easy as they don't have proper details, I
send a mail AND I SMS the cell number.
I get no response so I contact Michael of Diggers Hole. He says they are
closed, but he'll open for a group of 6 - 8 (we were eventually 9).
Heidelberg replies saying they are open. I say cool how much? Guy replies
saying R200 a vehicle & R30pp.
So I reply asking if that means a vehicle with a driver & passenger is then
R230 - he snaps back "No! I said R30pp, so it's R260!".
Well firstly - Why have an amount of R200 if I can never pay R200 until
driverless 4x4's are launched?
Since every vehicle will have a driver, just say R230 + R30 per additional
person.
Next, R260 for 2 people is a rip off for that 3 hour trail.
Some of the guys are bringing kids making it around R300
If he had any business acumen he's say R250 per vehicle.
Diggers Hole charges R200 per vehicle - finish & klaar. This multi layered,
convoluted, difficult pricing strategy has got to go!
Anyway - we went to Diggers hole.
2018/01/02, 07:47 AM
CornellMans
Digger's Hole was good, was a great day altogether.
2018/01/02, 09:27 PM
Mad Manny
Quote:
Originally Posted by CornellMans

Digger's Hole was good, was a great day altogether.
To be honest - it's a snooze fest & a group of 4 regulars could do it all in

under 3 hours.
But Michael was very accommodating & helpful & it's priced right...
Hopefully he adds to it in the coming months...
2018/01/03, 08:08 AM
CornellMans
Ja I thought that you would be bored there, but for me it was great. Done a
few of the obstacles that I would not have done were I not with you guys.
But yeah, gaining more confidence in my Trailblazer although it has a lot
lacking. Few extra scratches to show for it but it was worth it.
2018/01/11, 07:09 PM
Mad Manny
We have another Cinquenta Conquistador coming soon, in fact, maybe

two...
2018/01/11, 07:23 PM
Engel
Quote:

all 50 IN THE SAME VEHICLE.
That is actually very sad. Just because you're a poor contractor that never
upgraded your vehicle does not automatically make it good porra
Congrats anyway, you're not a mall crawler only ;D
2018/01/13, 02:03 PM
Mad Manny
Our 10th &

Oldest
Conquistador!
Chas Dean! (Bush Nomad)
1 Ezemvelo
2 Dinokeng/Elephant Water Hole
3 Kungwini
4 De Wilde
5 Mogatle
6 Somabula
7 Diggers Hole
8 Ivory Trail
9 Khama Rhino Sanctuary
10 CKGR & the Pans before Kubu island
11 Groenkloof
12 Rust de Winter \AKTV
13 River Trip
14 AfriSun\Maroela\Mooinooi
15 Seekoeigat, Loskop
16 Tiffendal
17 Tembe
18 Bushmans River Weenan
19 Gerotek
20 Wolwekloof
21 Gonarezhou
22 Bergen Rivier
23 Hennops
24 Base 4
25 Iquana
26 Ithala
27 Khama
28 Wolkeberge
29 KosiBay
30 Sudwana
31 Kalagadi
32 Witsand
33 Mapangubwe
34 Marakele
35 Buffalo Gorge
36 Karee Kranz
37 3 Provinces
38 Golden Gate
39 Kruger
40 Hluhlue
41 Willem pretorius
42 Cape Vidal
43 Mkuzi
44 Umfolozi
45 Oribi Gorge
46 HogsBack
47 Borakalelo
48 Nylsvlei
49 Pilansberg
50 Vaalkop
51 Magoebaskloof
52 Cederberg Bains Drift
53 Matopos
54 Umlalazi
55 iSamangaliso Wetland Park
56 Transkei\Hole in wall etc
57 Malonjeni
Post # 2 has been updated!
Congratulations Chas!!!
2018/01/13, 02:26 PM
grips
Congrads;D;D Well Done;D
2018/01/13, 03:14 PM
KurtG
Well done old man [emoji1303]
2018/02/09, 12:46 PM
Su-SWYS-ki
Quote:
CONGRATULATIONS
Francois!!!
Francois Herbst (Su-swys-ki) has completed SEVEN
Challenges in Dos Sete Diablos (The 7 Devils)
Francois completed the following:

2. Koos se klim @ Mogatle 08 March 2017
3. Carnage Canyon 16 June 2017***
4. Briekmerk @ Att se Gat 2 September 2017
6. Baboons Pass Lesotho 5 - 8 October 2017
7. Brakkenduine EC 27 December 2017
Francois Herbst (Su-SWYS-ki) is the 9th ever Ultimate Trail

Master but the first to complete Dos Sete Diablos
Well done Francois! I will contact you in January to present

you with your certificate!
Hi guys so after taking a break from the forum, I am slowly coming back.
Here are the details of the challenges.
Vehicle. PANDA
2012 Jeep JK(2dr) Rubicon
33" tyres
2 inch bds/fox suspension.
Advanced front and rear bumpers.
So to start off here is a summary of the events.
1. Moolmanshoek...... Closest
Here I was fortunate that we had a "mannekamp" and the Saturday's

activity was some 4x4.
I did the trail the previous year with my Jimny, so Sampie(the horse guide)
was not going to let me off easily. It was one hell of a scenic trail with some
moderate obstacles. It was really a fun outing.
The challenge was with the Sandstone...... it is brittle in some places and
then you lose traction like you can't believe. The wet sand stone was even
worse. Another hidden problem was grass patches; growing on the
sandstone their roots can't go very deep, so once you land on them they
pull out or the roots rip off.
2. Koos Se klim .... Moegatle
What an experience.....to be really honest it was the car and not me....
engage both lockers, 1st low, point and crawl.............up you go.
Down is a different story, even flat on the brakes it still slides forward so
the trick was not to lock the wheels but to do a controlled descent.
3. Carnage canyon......crap just got real
Rocks, wet rocks, rocks and sand, rocks followed by bigger rocks and no
facilities whatsoever. No toilets,water or power(awesome).
This was very very technical and made you gatvol of klippe.... Get the
perfect line and whoops you slide off a wet rock. Ask oom Sakkie and Neon
Deon.
I made it to Dead Dog Gorge and back to the campsite. It was a great
event.
Not to be taken on with 33" tyres and 2inch lift. Damage was plentiful. I
even managed to bend a ratchet strap that holds the spare wheel steps for
the roof rack, while on the wheel.
The rock sliders,bumpers and standard underbelly took the brunt of the
nocks.... and then the steering damper, that was actually hiding a few
issues with my suspension. So I met with mr Death Wobble all the way
back to JHB. It was thereafter that I became good friends with Corne from
Zone. I had to replace almost the whole front suspension. Its was more to
do with a lack of torque services on the suspension that some brackets had
elongated holes and needed to be welded up.
4. Briekmerk.... AT se gat.
I did this with the 4x4 Action group. Nerves were high for this one; the last
time I was there was with the first event after the Late Master Willie tried it
on one wheel, be it the spare.
Before me went a 2dr Sahara that made a mess of the obstacle getting
stuck for 45 min, this did not go well with the nerves.
So I strapped in and Anthony Forgey guided me. It was a breeze, the
Rubicon does it without any hassles.
I must admit this obstacle is NOT as it use to be...... it became a lot easier
than it use to be. On the first event Flip with his Jimny took a while to get
up, being the most experienced Jimny driver I know. Now a few near stock
Jimnys have conquered the obstacle.
SO ENTER 35" Tires, Cut Flares and small adjustments to the

suspension.
Ultimate Adventure Swaziland........ what a flippin AWESOME trip. On route

back home...... NO 5.....
5. Hells hoogte............. 3 provinces
THIS WAS BY FAR THE WORST ONE.
We first came from the top and did it down..... Not too bad but a lot of
loose rock... We got to the bottom and deflated more to 0.8 with no issues
with clearance...Turned around and up we went.
Drove sliding to the steps on top, and tried going up a few times but kept
losing traction on that step, even with both lockers on. When the right front
starts to lift the left rear just gives way on the loose rocks. A few bumps
later I decided to gun it a bit, it worked but lifting the right front wheel with
a slope downhill to the left...... not fun in the end, but got up and drove
back to camp.
6. Baboons pass.
Went with the Nissan patrol club. I was told a lot of stories of how they
were going to tow the Jeep, make it bigger etc...........We started the trail
at 9am and finished by 4:30pm. It was intimidating but not difficult with
35"s doing their job...
After the weekend 2 quotes remained: " I am never following a Jeep down
to a waterfall again"(Alex) and "Follow the Jeep they said, it would be fun
they said" (my wife)
7.Brakkeduine.
Went so see the in-laws in PE, but bailed for a day and went to finish the
Challenge. It was very interesting, especially as it was my first time playing
on sand. I made my name arse after getting stuck in 4h. I could not get
out, Choppie came to have a look and the dumbass that I am, I had shifted
in to 2h instead of 4L to get out:rolleyes:. Corrected the error, into 4L and
Panda was on the move again.
Langbult was a hell of a challenge, did it after a few attempts.
The roller-coaster was really fun driving on 0.4 bar that was...
So as usual a few people to thank.
1. thanks to the Lord for giving us such a stunning country and the
privilege to see it all whilst keeping us safe
2. My Swambo she did all except the Brakkeduine with me.

3. Mad Manny for arranging this.
4. the Community forum for support and motivation.
5. All the people I tagged along with and got to meet along the way..... it
was awesome
Neon Deon, Oom sakkie, Manny, David with his Mog, Vic with his Jimny @
Carnage, Ronald 2 trips in a year, Buchner, Pieter Zeus, Mitch, Flip
(especially at Klipdrift), Anthony, The Patrol club - Alex and his cronies,
Henk 'die Pajero oom' also 2 trips. Choppie.
A special thanks to Corne and Nonette from Zone offroad for maintaining
and repairing PANDA.
2018/02/09, 01:03 PM
grips
Nice post Francois.;D;D Always lekker to read real 4x4 stuff.
2018/02/09, 01:08 PM
Bartho
Pics or did not happen ...😊
2018/02/09, 07:26 PM
KurtG
Well done, that’s awesome stuff [emoji1303][emoji1303][emoji1303]

[emoji1303]
2018/02/09, 07:55 PM
Flipside
Ultimate Trail Master
Well done Francois. Nice post
2018/02/13, 12:17 PM
Su-SWYS-ki
Thanks all was a awesome experience
2018/02/23, 09:36 PM
Mad Manny
Quote:
Originally Posted by Su-SWYS-ki

So as usual a few people to thank.
1. thanks to the Lord for giving us such a stunning country

and the privilege to see it all whilst keeping us safe
2. My Swambo she did all except the Brakkeduine with me.

3. Mad Manny for arranging this.
4. the Community forum for support and motivation.
5. All the people I tagged along with and got to meet along
the way..... it was awesome
Neon Deon, Oom sakkie, Manny, David with his Mog, Vic
with his Jimny @ Carnage, Ronald 2 trips in a year, Buchner,
Pieter Zeus, Mitch, Flip (especially at Klipdrift), Anthony, The
Patrol club - Alex and his cronies, Henk 'die Pajero oom' also
2 trips. Choppie.
A special thanks to Corne and Nonette from Zone offroad for

maintaining and repairing PANDA.
Thanks Francois
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I have started a separate Carnage Canyon 2017 thread, so we don't hijack

Originally Posted by Flipside

Originally Posted by Jeanvn

Myne ook nie. Maar ek sal maar probeer...

Originally Posted by NEON DEON

Originally Posted by Reenen

50 trails.... ek het nie bewyse van almal, en ek was dom om

Originally Posted by Jeanvn

Yip, afstand is niks. Ek geniet my voertuig, geniet om te ry, sal maklik

Originally Posted by Reenen

Daar is hy nou perfek opgesom.

Also glad the Extreme guys are getting organised.

PS, another two Cinquenta Qualifiers coming through tonight...

Manny this is an awesome initiative thank you. I got goosebumps from

Originally Posted by Malkoppi

Have you driven anything other than sand Desmond?;D

Originally Posted by Mad Manny

Desmond, we'll get a 'Sete Diablos' group together, then

Sand and Fortuners are my favourite to go over yes😜😜😜

Originally Posted by Mad Manny

Glad we finally have a Thread, purely for the 4x4 enthusiast

Also glad the Extreme guys are getting organised.

BUT! If a lot of guys are coming up for Carnage Canyon, we

Our first Cinquenta Qualifier was Engel.

Our 5th is NEON DEON

Deon Smith – List of 50

Our first Cinquenta Qualifier was Engel.

Ron's list of 50...

1. Madimbu Limpopo River Trail - Limpopo

Please see post #2 for the full list...

Our first Cinquenta Qualifier was Engel.

Parabens! We have our SEVENTH!

Please see post #2 for the full list...

Originally Posted by Mad Manny

Parabens! We have our SEVENTH!

Please see post #2 for the full list...

Looking at the list, it makes me note 3 things:

Originally Posted by Mike Nel FJ

Mike maybe when you are 55 your list will be longer;D;D

Age sort of have advantage on this one;D;D

Originally Posted by grips

Age sort of have advantage on this one;D;D

Ja Oom. My vrou hoop ook dinge gaan langer wees as ek 55 is;D

Originally Posted by Mike Nel FJ

Is jy nog in as co-driver? Carnage canyon 16 junie?

Hope to hit 50 by September.

Dos Sete Diablos:

I have a vague plan which I'll finalise soon.

Will do the balance next year.

Originally Posted by Mad Manny

The 5 extreme trails were specifically chosen because a

Originally Posted by Mad Manny

So we need to add rear wheel steering;D;D

Originally Posted by grips

Please add an actual competent driver too :) :)

Originally Posted by Flipside

Originally Posted by Flipside

Originally Posted by grips

Jip, observing from a distance

The Extreme guys need to do Rhino Challenge.

This needs to be arranged as Rhino Challenge is closed.