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Audiencia 14may2019 - Usa V Raniere - Caso Nxivm
Audiencia 14may2019 - Usa V Raniere - Caso Nxivm
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8 TRANSCRIPT OF CRIMINAL CAUSE FOR TRIAL
BEFORE THE HONORABLE NICHOLAS G. GARAUFIS
9 UNITED STATES SENIOR DISTRICT JUDGE
BEFORE A JURY
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APPEARANCES
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For the Government: UNITED STATES ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
12 Eastern District of New York
271 Cadman Plaza East
13 Brooklyn, New York 11201
BY: MOIRA KIM PENZA
14 TANYA HAJJAR
MARK LESKO
15 Assistant United States Attorneys
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18 adjourn for the day and then return tomorrow. The juror,
1 want to discuss among each other before you meet with me?
7 All right?
10 (Recess.)
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13 Trail, when a search warrant was executed on that home the day
20 And I will say that the home -- the home served both
24 was a box, a plastic box. And inside the -- inside the box,
14 overseeing cases.
22 enemies.
7 email address off the top of my head, but there's two buckets
8 of email accounts.
15 the enterprise.
10 about admissibility.
18 enterprise.
25 their --
17 not to put a finer point on it, were judges who had cases
23 investigated.
25 the case indicating that they felt that that judge was not
1 aligned with them somehow and they were trying to see if she
4 not being offered for the truth of the statements, what's the
13 words --
22 jury wouldn't know any of this. And the jury wouldn't know
4 this stuff in through her. That's the witness who did it.
5 There's no doubt about it. And also the stuff in these boxes,
7 about her plans to do these things. How are they going to put
10 Keeffe's to do list. These are the things I'm gonna do. Who
15 Yes?
22 emails.
7 make his arguments about that and whether -- and that all goes
21 then he talks about the Branch Davidians and the Waco siege.
3 one.
5 basis. I mean that's why it's done when you have a witness on
6 the stand, you say: Here's an email. And you give a copy to
10 truck and back it up into the courtroom, into the jury box and
18 They said we can call her. We've never spoken her. They've
20 call her.
22 because they're afraid of the cross, and maybe they should be.
24 all of her work product, all the different things that she was
8 for admissibility. And then Mr. Agnifilio can say, you don't
9 know who actually wrote these blah, blah. He can do all that.
13 her.
17 Why shouldn't that come in, not for the truth of the matter
18 asserted? Wouldn't that, you know, the research that was done
21 Why shouldn't that come in, not for the truth of the
23 about that?
5 going on? And that's what we have eyewitnesses for who are
6 alive and well and able to testify. And that's the -- there's
10 that witness did. That witness -- why did this witness -- why
2 completely irrelevant.
5 individuals. And so they laid down with dogs and maybe they
6 got flees, and maybe they got defrauded, but that is totally
8 for its truth. It does not matter whether these were actually
18 through this trial and we're going to hear a lot more about.
21 it's significant.
23 that they are making the choice not to call so that they can
25 get this stuff in, in this old style fashion at the last
4 way.
16 heck of an assumption.
18 the witness and, you know, you can -- you can put that to the
19 witness.
25 Salzman's basement --
4 and she was keeping records there and half a million dollars
5 in cash, you don't -- you know, if it's not yours, you don't
6 keep it there.
17 is in.
24 was.
5 fly should not happen. And it's happened because they told us
6 yesterday for the first time they were doing this, and they
10 huge case.
19 assumption is ludicrous.
1 if-they're-in-a-box-of-the-president-of-the-company hearsay
5 a lot of these things, but they don't want to call her, and so
7 in a difficult position.
12 to show Your Honor some of the stuff that we're talking about,
1 if that's okay.
18 various things.
20 allegedly?
22 liaison.
3 Bronfman did.
5 committee?
11 defendant.
13 organization?
20 our witnesses of the back and forth between Nancy Salzman and
21 other members of the enterprise and other women with whom the
25 enterprise.
9 The one that I'm thinking of, one of the ones that
20 exception.
22 being offered for its truth. Whatever this woman believed her
13 admissible.
15 well.
20 All right.
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