On multiple meanings of mat: activity of drinking, in this case

- why would you decide to go visit your family yet there is merry-making (wedding ceremony) in
the Lango village where there is more "myel, mat kede mwodo, MMM" ? Why would you skip the
important event in Ibuje?

Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 14:12:28 -0400

Subject: Re: ROAD ACCIDENT
From: cogole@gmail.com
To: tonny.okori@gmail.com
CC: eddieococ@yahoo.co.uk; jkokorom@yahoo.co.uk; jomark27@gmail.com;
jojokori@gmail.com; radupa80@hotmail.com; m.ogwal@moodinternational.org;
counselod@gmail.com; christineococ2007@gmail.com; denix.okori@gmail.com;
epodoiemma89@gmail.com; berna.abuni@gmail.com; moses4hope@hotmail.com

Dear Old Boy Mr. Tonny Okori,

You will excuse me for appearing to be a little skeptical (if at all this incident happened).
Perhaps, the sad story was written in hurry - so allow me seek clarity before I convey my
condolence.

On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Tonny Okori <tonny.okori@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Brothers and Friends

1. I trust you are all well. Am fine

For one, I am fine save for the usual and mundane struggles of life. Allow me ask the following
questions - line by line.

2. On Friday of
22nd August 2014 at around 5:30, a friend of mine whom I had trusted with my Premio
car UAT 573Z to go and drive the Groom and the Bridegroom at Ibuje Church of
Uganda on Saturday of 23rd August 2014, never reached the decoration ground in
Ibuje. He instead branched off to Alado road for his personal reason following a newly
constructed road. He overturned the car and left the car in a sorry state.
I suppose there is a road somewhere between Kungu - Masindi Port (where you gave the car to
the friend of yours) and Alado Road, where the friend "branched off". [Forgive me I don't know
the geography of the places here. I don't know where Kungu - Masindi Port is. Neither do I know
Alado and the distances between the places in question.

Also, I suppose the new Road is Alado itself.

3. While the accident happens, I was already on my way to visit my family in Kampala.
I got the news before reaching Kla that the man whom I gave the car at Kungu -
Masindi Port got an accident and died. It was the worst moment in my life.

Now, you said you were already on your way to Kampala when the accident happened. And I
suppose that that must have been between 22nd August 2014 at around 5:30 (am or pm?) and
early morning of 23rd August 2014 (say, latest, 6:00 am?- or 9 am ?- in time to drive the brides)
assuming it takes all that long to drive from Kungu - Masindi Port to Alado Road., where the
accident is alleged to have taken place.

Further, I assume that it takes more than that that long (above) for you to travel from Kungu -
Masindi Port to Kampala. [Unless there were some delays, or depending on the transport mode:
did you travel by bus, bicycle...?].

4. The victim was rushed to Ibuje health center III, then to Apac hospital then to Lira
referral hospital where he is recovering from. He was unconscious for three nights but
as I write, he is recovering.

You stated in 3 that you "got the news" before reaching Kampala that "the man whom I gave
the car at Kungu - Masindi Port got an accident and died". How then could he have
been transported from health center to health center.... and "he is recovering"- and how
far are these hospitals (assuming they are different from the ones I know of). Did he
resurrect from death? Even if that were true, the time intervals don't add up for you "got
the news that he died" before you reached Kampala.... [Well, the story of resurrection
could somewhat be plausible if you were using a slower means of transport, e.g. riding
a bicycle to Kampala or walking on foot... but again, I need to know the distance from
Kungu - Masindi Port to Kampala for me to try to think some supernatural intervention
occurred and the man rose from the dead as you "delayed" on your way to Kampala.
Suppose these were true, I would want to know the type of people who kept on moving
the dead body from Alado (new road?) to Ibuje health center to Apac hospital to Lira
referral hospital]......

Numerous (if not infinite) philosophical (and not only legal) questions could be asked down
to the beliefs of the world we are talking about. In any case,
- why would you decide to go visit your family yet there is merry-making (wedding ceremony) in
the Lango village where there is more "myel, mat kede mwodo, MMM" ? Why would you skip the
important event in Ibuje?

- Yes, so you live out of town/Kampala. Why would you choose the lend the car to the friend at
Kungu - Masindi Port ? Where were you coming from, or where was your friend coming from?
Did you arrange to me your friend at Kungu - Masindi Port ? Why? Did you have some motive....
on this friend of yours?

- How did you know that the friend whom you lent the car "branched off to Alado Road for
personal reasons". Of course, the time he died was not given... but many things need to be
clarified. If he died on the spot, then how can you posit that he branched off for personal reasons.
How did you know that he (and not some hijacker at all) overturn the car.. leaving it in a sorry
state?

- How did you get the news (while you were still on your way to Kampala)? Telephone call?

- The above, I suppose are mostly legal questions. [I am by no means knowledgeable in that
area,... but I am using common sense.. so legal experts here will forgive me for meandering
around...].

- etc

5. It is a trying moment for me and I want you to put us in your prayers.

But for simplicity, let me assume the vague description matches my knowledge of the real world
of Uganda (and no paranormal in play), then, OB, I think yin ite itemo bedo okora....!

I will save my condolence until you rephrase the announcement - providing utmost clarity!

I will call [on telephone] you in a bit, nonetheless.

The pictures you provided are a necessary but not sufficient condition to the truth of the narrative.

Thanks,

Caesar Ogole
Broader/complete context:

On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 5:25 AM, Tonny Okori <tonny.okori@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Brothers and Friends

I trust you are all well. Am fine

On Friday of
22nd August 2014 at around 5:30, a friend of mine whom I had trusted with my Premio car UAT 573Z to go and
drive the Groom and the Bridegroom at Ibuje Church of Uganda on Saturday of 23rd August 2014, never reached the
decoration ground in Ibuje. He instead branched off to Alado road for his personal reason following a newly
constructed road. He overturned the car and left the car in a sorry state.

While the accident happens, I was already on my way to visit my family in Kampala. I got the news before reaching
Kla that the man whom I gave the car at Kungu - Masindi Port got an accident and died. It was the worst moment in
my life.

The victim was rushed to Ibuje health center III, then to Apac hospital then to Lira referral hospital where he is
recovering from. He was unconscious for three nights but as I write, he is recovering.

It is a trying moment for me and I want you to put us in your prayers.

Thank you
--
Tonny Okori
ICT Specialist
Mob. 0782 45 45 18
0757 45 45 18

Psalms 133
"How wonderful and pleasant it is when brothers live together in harmony"
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Ogwal Moses Fred <moses4hope@hotmail.com>
To: "eddieococ@yahoo.co.uk" <eddieococ@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: "tonny.okori@gmail.com" <tonny.okori@gmail.com>; "cogole@gmail.com" <cogole@gmail.com>;
"jkokorom@yahoo.co.uk" <jkokorom@yahoo.co.uk>; "jomark27@gmail.com" <jomark27@gmail.com>;
"jojokori@gmail.com" <jojokori@gmail.com>; "radupa80@hotmail.com" <radupa80@hotmail.com>;
"m.ogwal@moodinternational.org" <m.ogwal@moodinternational.org>; "counselod@gmail.com"
<counselod@gmail.com>; "christineococ2007@gmail.com" <christineococ2007@gmail.com>;
"denix.okori@gmail.com" <denix.okori@gmail.com>; "epodoiemma89@gmail.com"
<epodoiemma89@gmail.com>; "berna.abuni@gmail.com" <berna.abuni@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014, 5:28:25 AM EDT
Subject: Re: ROAD ACCIDENT

For sure Eddy u are right, I was very deeply annoyed,provoked a lot on the mail send by Caesar, I felt mocked as a
friend to Tony, It took me time to really get him well.We need to examine friends a lot before we can trust
them,others sometimes "Nwongo itye ikelo Lwit kede atemetema me Lobo". he has to apologise to all of us who
read that mail and Tony remember who to run to when u have a problem otherwise not all the things are meant for
every body
I think now God has heard u and he will give u courage,hope and all u need, proverbs ,3:5 trust in Lord with all it
heart,mind and do not lean in it own wisdom. we are all thing about u.

all with love

Moses & Apphia

Eddy Ococ <eddieococ@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Dear Tonny Okori

While I find a tart rejoinder from your so called friend a one Ceaser Ogole the most nauseating, provocative and
highly offensive especially at a time when we as a family are on our knees praying for the quick recovery of the
driver who got involved in the accident and a way of reparing your car, as head of the family I strongly advise you
to ignore and disregard such a revulsive and infurative post with all the contempt it deserve.

Your so called friend is trying to be very philosphical, but then again if he is a man of wisdom as he is trying to
portray and have us all belive, common sense (assuming it is common) should have inculcated in him that this issue
is highly sentive and emotive. To say "I think yin itye itemo bedo okora....!" border insanity and depicts a man on
the edge. He is asking for a reply - don't give him one, you neither owe him an explanation nor a response. He said
he will call you, you need not answer his call, he should have done that before posting this rile and needling mail
and calling you 'okora'. I shudder to believe he is even your friend.

Take heart it will be well with you especially as your blood family and true friends are with you at this trying
moment.

Eddy Ococ-Okori
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 26/8/14, Caesar <cogole@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: ROAD ACCIDENT

To: "Tonny Okori" <tonny.okori@gmail.com>
Cc: "Eddie Ococ" <eddieococ@yahoo.co.uk>, "james kokorom" <jkokorom@yahoo.co.uk>,
"John Mark Agong" <jomark27@gmail.com>, "jimmy ojok" <jojokori@gmail.com>, "Richard
Adupa" <radupa80@hotmail.com>, "D'Martin Ogwal" <m.ogwal@moodinternational.org>,
"Robinson Odongo" <counselod@gmail.com>, "Christine Ococ"
<christineococ2007@gmail.com>, "denix okori" <denix.okori@gmail.com>, "EPODOI
EMMANUEL" <epodoiemma89@gmail.com>, "BERNADETTE ABUNI"
<berna.abuni@gmail.com>, "Ogwal Fred" <moses4hope@hotmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, 26 August, 2014, 21:12

Dear
Old Boy Mr. Tonny Okori,
You will excuse me for appearing to
be a little skeptical (if at all this incident happened).
Perhaps, the sad story was written in hurry - so allow me
seek clarity before I convey my condolence.

----- Forwarded Message -----

From: BERNADETTE ABUNI <berna.abuni@gmail.com>
To: "tonny.okori@gmail.com" <tonny.okori@gmail.com>
Cc: "eddieococ@yahoo.co.uk" <eddieococ@yahoo.co.uk>; "jkokorom@yahoo.co.uk"
<jkokorom@yahoo.co.uk>; "jomark27@gmail.com" <jomark27@gmail.com>;
"jojokori@gmail.com" <jojokori@gmail.com>; "radupa80@hotmail.com"
<radupa80@hotmail.com>; "m.ogwal@moodinternational.org"
<m.ogwal@moodinternational.org>; "counselod@gmail.com" <counselod@gmail.com>;
"christineococ2007@gmail.com" <christineococ2007@gmail.com>; "denix.okori@gmail.com"
<denix.okori@gmail.com>; "epodoiemma89@gmail.com" <epodoiemma89@gmail.com>;
"cogole@gmail.com" <cogole@gmail.com>; "moses4hope@hotmail.com"
<moses4hope@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014, 1:56:21 AM EDT
Subject: Re: ROAD ACCIDENT
Tonny dear,
sorry for the happening! there are some things that happen and you cant explain, so many
questions to ask without answers.

Do remember lamentations 3:37....''Who is he that saith, and it cometh to pass, when the Lord
commandeth it not?''KJV. so i know that in everything that happens God has a hand and for a
reason, which reason is in your best interest, because God says in Jeremiah 29:11(KJV) For I
know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the Lord, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to
give you an expected end."

As Eddie has said, give thanks and see how the lord will surprise you . has he not said in exodus
14:14 ...."The Lord will fight for you, and you shall hold your peace and remain at rest."? so I
can boldly that it is well my dear and I pray that the Lord strengthens you as its written in Psalms
31:24 (KJV) Be of good courage, and he shall strengthen your heart, all ye that hope in the
LORD.
Blessings and Good health to you and your family.

Berna A.

----- Forwarded Message -----

From: Eddy Ococ <eddieococ@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "tonny.okori@gmail.com" <tonny.okori@gmail.com>; "cogole@gmail.com"
<cogole@gmail.com>
Cc: "jkokorom@yahoo.co.uk" <jkokorom@yahoo.co.uk>; "jomark27@gmail.com"
<jomark27@gmail.com>; "jojokori@gmail.com" <jojokori@gmail.com>;
"radupa80@hotmail.com" <radupa80@hotmail.com>; "m.ogwal@moodinternational.org"
<m.ogwal@moodinternational.org>; "counselod@gmail.com" <counselod@gmail.com>;
"christineococ2007@gmail.com" <christineococ2007@gmail.com>; "denix.okori@gmail.com"
<denix.okori@gmail.com>; "epodoiemma89@gmail.com" <epodoiemma89@gmail.com>;
"berna.abuni@gmail.com" <berna.abuni@gmail.com>; "moses4hope@hotmail.com"
<moses4hope@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014, 4:38:34 AM EDT
Subject: Re: ROAD ACCIDENT

Dear Tonny Okori

While I find a tart rejoinder from your so called friend a one Ceaser Ogole the most nauseating,
provocative and highly offensive especially at a time when we as a family are on our knees
praying for the quick recovery of the driver who got involved in the accident and a way of
reparing your car, as head of the family I strongly advise you to ignore and disregard such a
revulsive and infurative post with all the contempt it deserve.

Your so called friend is trying to be very philosphical, but then again if he is a man of wisdom as
he is trying to portray and have us all belive, common sense (assuming it is common) should
have inculcated in him that this issue is highly sentive and emotive. To say "I think yin itye
itemo bedo okora....!" border insanity and depicts a man on the edge. He is asking for a reply -
don't give him one, you neither owe him an explanation nor a response. He said he will call you,
you need not answer his call, he should have done that before posting this rile and needling mail
and calling you 'okora'. I shudder to believe he is even your friend.

Take heart it will be well with you especially as your blood family and true friends are with you
at this trying moment.

Eddy Ococ-Okori

On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Tonny Okori <tonny.okori@gmail.com> wrote:
Caesar,

I have read your email. You were trying to understand things clear and I want to put it
clear this way.

1. The accident that occurred is very true. I have never been a tricky man, conman
whatsoever. I trust you know a bit of me. Even if I was dying n needed support from
friends and relatives, I wouldn't go to that extent.
I have never conned anyone and I don't think I will ever do that.

Right; I wasn't very clear in my email but I trust everyone understood my situation. A
car in Uganda is very important and when you lose it means a big thing. So I must say
am to some extent, disorganized and disturbed.

Now, the issue was;

1. I drove with my friend from Apac town to Masindi port. I was going to Kla on Friday
evening.
2. I gave him the car from Masindi port to come back to Apac to drive the bagoles on
Saturday morning. The wedding was to take place on Saturday at Ibuje COU

.
3. He drove from Masindi port but did not reach Apac town
. Instead he branched off from Amii corner and got an accident between Amii and Alado.
Since he was alone in the car, no one knows where he was going since he branched off
Apac highway.
4. That is what we I can tell. I suspect he was visiting Alado Health Center II where he
worked before being transferred to Kidilani Health Center II where is he currently
working.

5. The car I sent is really mine. A car I bought last year in December. It's a premio
1998 model.

Please, am not okora and I will never be.

Thank you

--
Tonny Okori
ICT Specialist
Mob. 0782 45 45 18
0757 45 45 18

Psalms 133

"How wonderful and pleasant it is when brothers live together in harmony"

On 28 August 2014 16:43, Caesar <cogole@gmail.com> wrote:

Tonny,

The telephone conversation you and I had an hour ago shed a lot of light on the real problem on
the ground. Keep in touch, and slowly we will concertedly get over the issues compounding this
problem.

Caesar
From: tonny.okori@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 09:17:42 +0300
Subject: Re: ROAD ACCIDENT
To: cogole@gmail.com
CC: eddieococ@yahoo.co.uk; jkokorom@yahoo.co.uk; jomark27@gmail.com;
jojokori@gmail.com; radupa80@hotmail.com; m.ogwal@moodinternational.org;
counselod@gmail.com; christineococ2007@gmail.com; denix.okori@gmail.com;
epodoiemma89@gmail.com; berna.abuni@gmail.com; moses4hope@hotmail.com

Thank you Caesar.

I hope for the best.

----- Forwarded Message -----

From: Richard Adupa <radupa80@hotmail.com>
To: "cogole@gmail.com" <cogole@gmail.com>; "tonny.okori@gmail.com" <tonny.okori@gmail.com>
Cc: "eddieococ@yahoo.co.uk" <eddieococ@yahoo.co.uk>; "jkokorom@yahoo.co.uk" <jkokorom@yahoo.co.uk>;
"jomark27@gmail.com" <jomark27@gmail.com>; "jojokori@gmail.com" <jojokori@gmail.com>;
"m.ogwal@moodinternational.org" <m.ogwal@moodinternational.org>; "counselod@gmail.com"
<counselod@gmail.com>; "christineococ2007@gmail.com" <christineococ2007@gmail.com>;
"denix.okori@gmail.com" <denix.okori@gmail.com>; "epodoiemma89@gmail.com"
<epodoiemma89@gmail.com>; "berna.abuni@gmail.com" <berna.abuni@gmail.com>;
"moses4hope@hotmail.com" <moses4hope@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014, 11:55:31 AM EDT
Subject: RE: ROAD ACCIDENT

Dear Caesar,
Many thanks for your reply to Tonny but I think it was not the right message
he needed at this moment. True friends don't console in that manner! I'm
really sorry if this is judgmental.

Kind regards,

Richard Adupa
Chief Executive Officer
Obaya Community Association
Plot 4, Nubi Road, Junior Quarters, Adyel Division
P.O. Box 1037 Lira, Uganda
Tel: +256 (0) 392944554
Mobile: +256 (0) 772900976 / 703366440
E-mail: radupa@obayacommunity.org
Web: www.obayacommunity.org
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Ogwal Moses Fred <moses4hope@hotmail.com>
To: "eddieococ@yahoo.co.uk" <eddieococ@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: "tonny.okori@gmail.com" <tonny.okori@gmail.com>; "cogole@gmail.com" <cogole@gmail.com>;
"jkokorom@yahoo.co.uk" <jkokorom@yahoo.co.uk>; "jomark27@gmail.com" <jomark27@gmail.com>;
"jojokori@gmail.com" <jojokori@gmail.com>; "radupa80@hotmail.com" <radupa80@hotmail.com>;
"m.ogwal@moodinternational.org" <m.ogwal@moodinternational.org>; "counselod@gmail.com"
<counselod@gmail.com>; "christineococ2007@gmail.com" <christineococ2007@gmail.com>;
"denix.okori@gmail.com" <denix.okori@gmail.com>; "epodoiemma89@gmail.com"
<epodoiemma89@gmail.com>; "berna.abuni@gmail.com" <berna.abuni@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014, 5:28:25 AM EDT
Subject: Re: ROAD ACCIDENT

For sure Eddy u are right, I was very deeply annoyed,provoked a lot on the mail send by Caesar, I felt mocked as a
friend to Tony, It took me time to really get him well.We need to examine friends a lot before we can trust
them,others sometimes "Nwongo itye ikelo Lwit kede atemetema me Lobo". he has to apologise to all of us who
read that mail and Tony remember who to run to when u have a problem otherwise not all the things are meant for
every body
I think now God has heard u and he will give u courage,hope and all u need, proverbs ,3:5 trust in Lord with all it
heart,mind and do not lean in it own wisdom. we are all thing about u.

all with love

Moses & Apphia