Carlos Norman Hathcock II (May 20, 1942 – February 22, 1999) was a United States

Marine Corps (USMC) sniper with a service record of 93 confirmed kills. Hathcock's record
and the extraordinary details of the missions he undertook made him a legend in the U.S.
Marine Corps. He was honored by having a rifle named after him: a variant of the M21
dubbed the Springfield Armory M25 White Feather, for the nickname "White Feather" given
to Hathcock by the North Vietnamese People's Army of Vietnam (PAVN).

Early life and education Carlos Hathcock

Hathcock was born in Little Rock,

Arkansas on May 20, 1942. He grew up in
Wynne, Arkansas, living with his
grandmother after his parents separated
for the first 12 years of his life. While
visiting relatives in Mississippi, he took to
shooting and hunting at an early age,
partly out of necessity to help feed his
poor family. He would go into the woods
with his dog and pretend to be a soldier
and hunt imaginary Japanese with the old
Mauser his father brought back from Hathcock in November 1996
World War II. He hunted at that early age
Nickname(s) "White Feather"[1]
with a .22-caliber J. C. Higgins single-shot
rifle. Hathcock dreamed of being a Marine Born May 20, 1942
throughout his childhood, and so on May Little Rock,

20, 1959, at the age of 17, he enlisted in Arkansas, U.S.

the U.S. Marine Corps.[2] Hathcock Died February 23, 1999

married Jo (nee Broughton) Winstead on (aged 56)
the date of the Marine Corps birthday, Virginia Beach,
November 10, 1962.[2] Jo gave birth to a Virginia, U.S.

son, whom they named Carlos Norman Buried Woodlawn Memorial

Hathcock III. Gardens

Allegiance United States

Career of America

Service/branch United States

Before deploying to South Vietnam, Marine Corps

Hathcock had won shooting

Years of service 1959–1979
championships, including matches at
Camp Perry and the Wimbledon Cup. In Rank Gunnery
1966, Hathcock started his deployment in sergeant
the Vietnam War as a military policeman
Unit 1st Marine
and later became a sniper after Captain
Edward James Land pushed the Marines Division

into raising snipers in every platoon. Land Battles/wars Vietnam War

later recruited Marines who had set their
Awards Silver Star
own records in sharpshooting; he quickly
Navy
found Hathcock, who had won the
Commendation
Wimbledon Cup, the most prestigious
Medal
prize for long-range shooting, at Camp Purple Heart
Perry in 1965.[3]
Spouse(s) Josephine (Jo) (nee
Broughton)
Winstead
Confirmed kills
Relations Carlos Norman
During the Vietnam War, Hathcock had 93 Hathcock III (son)
confirmed kills of PAVN and Viet Cong
personnel.[4] In the Vietnam War, kills had to be confirmed by an acting third party, who had
to be an officer, besides the sniper's spotter. Snipers often did not have an acting third party
present, making confirmation difficult, especially if the target was behind enemy lines, as
was usually the case.

Hathcock estimated that he had killed between 300 and 400 enemy personnel during his
time in the Vietnam War.[5]

Confrontations with North Vietnamese snipers

The PAVN placed a bounty of US$30,000 on Hathcock's life for killing so many of their men.
Rewards put on U.S. snipers by the PAVN typically ranged from $8 to $2,000. Hathcock
held the record for highest bounty and killed every known Vietnamese marksman who
sought him to collect it.[6] The Viet Cong and PAVN called Hathcock Long Tr'ang, translated
as "White Feather Sniper", because of the white feather he kept in a band on his bush

hat.[7][8][9] After a platoon of Vietnamese snipers was sent to hunt down "White Feather",
many Marines in the same area donned white feathers to deceive the enemy. These Marines
were aware of the impact Hathcock's death would have and took it upon themselves to
make themselves targets in order to confuse the counter-snipers.[10]

One of Hathcock's most famous accomplishments was shooting an enemy sniper through
the enemy's own rifle scope, hitting him in the eye and killing him.[11][12][13][14] Hathcock and
John Roland Burke, his spotter, were stalking the enemy sniper in the jungle near Hill 55, the
firebase from which Hathcock was operating, southwest of Da Nang. The sniper, known only
as the "Cobra," had already killed several Marines and was believed to have been sent
specifically to kill Hathcock.[10] When Hathcock saw a glint (light reflecting off the enemy
sniper's scope) in the bushes, he fired at it, shooting through the scope and killing the
sniper. Hathcock took possession of the dead sniper's rifle, hoping to bring it home as a
"trophy", but after he turned it in and tagged it, it was stolen from the armory.[15]

A female Viet Cong platoon leader called "the Apache woman," with a reputation for
torturing captive U.S. Marines, was killed by Hathcock around the firebase at Hill 55.[16]

Hathcock only once removed the white feather from his bush hat while deployed in
Vietnam.[17] During a volunteer mission days before the end of his first deployment, he
crawled over 1,500 yards of field to shoot a PAVN General.[18][19] He was not informed of the
details of the mission until he accepted it.[20] This effort took four days and three nights,
without sleep, of constant inch-by-inch crawling.[19] Hathcock said he was almost stepped
on as he lay camouflaged with grass and vegetation in a meadow shortly after sunset.[2] At
one point he was nearly bitten by a bamboo viper, but had the presence of mind to avoid
moving and giving up his position.[19] As the General exited his encampment, Hathcock fired
a single shot that struck the General in the chest, killing him.[21][22][23][24]

After the arduous mission of killing the PAVN General, Hathcock returned to the United
States in 1967.[20][19] He missed the Marine Corps, however, and returned to Vietnam in
1969, where he took command of a platoon of snipers.[10]
Medical evacuation

On September 16, 1969, Hathcock's career as a sniper came to a sudden end along
Highway 1, north of LZ Baldy, when the LVT-5 he was riding on struck an anti-tank mine.
Hathcock pulled seven Marines from the flame-engulfed vehicle, suffering severe burns

(some third-degree) to his face, arms and legs, before someone pulled him away and got
him in water because he did not realize he was burnt that badly. While recovering, Hathcock
received the Purple Heart. Nearly 30 years later, he received a Silver Star for this
action.[10][25][26] Hathcock and the seven marines he pulled from the vehicle were
evacuated by helicopter to hospital ship USS Repose, then to a naval hospital in Tokyo, and
ultimately to the burn center at Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio, Texas.

After the Vietnam War

After returning to active duty, Hathcock helped establish the Marine Corps Scout Sniper
School at the Marine base in Quantico, Virginia. Due to his extreme injuries suffered in
Vietnam, he was in nearly constant pain, but he continued to dedicate himself to teaching
snipers. In 1975, Hathcock's health began to deteriorate, and he was diagnosed with
multiple sclerosis. He stayed in the Marine Corps, but his health continued to decline. And,
just 55 days short of the 20 years that would have made him eligible for regular retirement
pay, he received a permanent disability separation. Being medically discharged, he received
100 percent disability pay.[27] He would have received only 50 percent of his final pay grade
had he retired after 20 years. He fell into a state of depression when he was forced out of
the Marines because he felt as if the service had kicked him out. During this depression, his
wife Jo nearly left him but decided to stay. Hathcock eventually picked up the hobby of
shark fishing, which helped him overcome his depression.[28]

Hathcock provided sniper instruction to police departments and select military units, such
as SEAL Team Six.[29]

Later life and death

Hathcock once said that he survived in his work because of an ability to "get in the bubble",
to put himself into a state of "utter, complete, absolute concentration", first with his
equipment, then his environment, in which every breeze and every leaf meant something,
and finally on his quarry.[30] After the war, a friend showed Hathcock a passage written by
Ernest Hemingway: "Certainly there is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who
have hunted armed men long enough and like it, never really care for anything else
thereafter." He copied Hemingway's words on a piece of paper. "He got that right,"
Hathcock said. "It was the hunt, not the killing."[17] Hathcock said in a book written about his
career as a sniper: "I like shooting, and I love hunting. But I never did enjoy killing anybody.
It's my job. If I don't get those bastards, then they're gonna kill a lot of these kids dressed up
like Marines. That's the way I look at it."[31]

Hathcock's son, Carlos Hathcock III, later enlisted in the U.S. Marine Corps;[32] he retired
from the Marine Corps as a Gunnery Sergeant after following in his father's footsteps as a
shooter and became a member of the Board of Governors of the Marine Corps
Distinguished Shooters Association.[33]

Hathcock died on February 22, 1999, in Virginia Beach, Virginia, from complications
resulting from multiple sclerosis.[34] He is buried at Woodlawn Memorial Gardens in Norfolk,
Virginia.

Awards and decorations

Silver Star

Purple Heart

Navy Commendation Medal

Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medal

Good Conduct Medal

 National Defense Service Medal

Vietnam Service Medal

Gallantry Cross

Vietnam Campaign Medal

Legacy

Hathcock remains a legend in the U.S. Marine Corps. The Gunnery Sergeant Carlos
Hathcock Award is presented annually by the National Defense Industrial Association "to
recognize an individual who ... has made significant contributions in operational
employment and tactics of small arms weapons systems which have impacted the readiness
and capabilities of the U.S. military or law enforcement."[35] The Marine Corps League
(MCL) sponsors an annual program with 12 award categories, which includes the Gunnery
Sergeant Carlos N. Hathcock II Award presented "to an enlisted Marine who has made an

outstanding contribution to the improvement of marksmanship training."[36][37] A sniper

range named for Hathcock is at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina.

In 1967, Hathcock set the record for the longest sniper kill. He used an M2 .50 Cal Browning
machine gun mounted with a telescopic sight at a range of 2,500 yd (2,286 m), killing a
Vietcong guerrilla.[38] In 2002, this record was broken by Canadian snipers (Rob Furlong
and Arron Perry) from the third battalion of Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry
during the War in Afghanistan. Hathcock was one of several individuals to utilize the M2
Browning machine gun in the sniping role. This success led to the adoption of the .50 BMG
cartridge as a viable sniper round. Sniper rifles have since been designed around and
chambered in this caliber since the 1970s.

Springfield Armory designed a highly accurized version of their M1A Supermatch rifle with a
McMillan Stock and match grade barrel and dubbed it the "M-25 White Feather". The rifle
had a likeness of Hathcock's signature and his "white feather logo" marked on the
receiver.[39]

Turner Saddlery similarly honored Hathcock by producing a line of leather rifle slings based
on his design. The slings are embossed with Hathcock's signature.[40]

On March 9, 2007, the rifle and pistol complex at Marine Corps Air Station Miramar was
officially renamed the Carlos Hathcock Range Complex.[41]

Books

Hathcock is the subject of a number of books including:

Henderson, Charles (1986). Marine Sniper: 93 Confirmed Kills . Stein and Day. ISBN 0-
 8128-3055-5.
reissued as a paperback in 1988, ISBN 0-425-10355-2, OCLC 45427612

reprinted 2001, ISBN 978-0-425-18165-2

Sasser, Charles; Roberts, Craig (1990). One Shot, One Kill. Pocket Books. ISBN 978-0-
671-68219-4.

Chandler, Roy F. (1997). White Feather: Carlos Hathcock USMC scout sniper: an
authorized biographical memoir. Iron Brigade Armory Publishing. ISBN 978-1-885633-
09-5.

Henderson, Charles W. (2003). Silent Warrior . Berkley Books. ISBN 978-0-425-18864-

4.

Weaponry

Hathcock generally used the standard sniper rifle: the Winchester Model 70 .30-06 caliber
rifle with the standard 8-power Unertl scope. On some occasions, however, he used a
different weapon: the M2 Browning machine gun, on which he mounted an 8X Unertl scope,
using a bracket of his own design. Hathcock made a number of kills with this weapon in
excess of 1,000 yards, including his record for the longest confirmed kill at 2,500 yards
(since surpassed).[42] Hathcock carried a Colt M1911A1 pistol as a sidearm.[16]
In popular culture

Hathcock's career as a sniper has been used as a basis for a variety of fictional snipers,
from the "shooting through the scope incident" to the number of kills he made.

Film

In RoboCop 2 (1990), Robocop (Peter Weller) recreates the famous "scope shot" where
he shoots a sniper in the eye through the sniper's own scope.[43]

In Saving Private Ryan (1998), Private Daniel Jackson (Barry Pepper) shoots a German
sniper through the latter's rifle scope, giving a nod to Carlos Hathcock.

The movie Sniper (1993), featuring actor Tom Berenger, is loosely based on some of
Hathcock's exploits in Vietnam.[44]

The H2 documentary, Sniper: Inside the Crosshairs (March 10, 2015), depicted a sniper
team that successfully reenacted the "through the scope" shot.

Literature

The protagonist of Stephen Hunter's Bob Lee Swagger thriller series, comprising the
 novels Point of Impact (1993), Black Light, Time to Hunt (1999), and I, Sniper (2009), is
loosely based on Carlos Hathcock (Hathcock is alluded to in the book as "Gunny Sgt Carl
Hitchcock").[45][46]

Television

In the fourth episode of the first season of the CBS show Criminal Minds: Suspect
Behavior, the criminal being chased by the Behavioral Analysis Unit's red cell team is a
long-distance sniper killer, played by Noel Fisher. Fisher sends Mick Rawson (played by
Matt Ryan) of the BAU team a package containing a pager which he uses to notify
Rawson of his next kills; he signs the package "Carlos Hathcock", which Rawson explains
by sharing the tale of Hathcock's 93 kills and an incident during the Vietnam War in which
he was put up against the best sniper of the NVA, known only as "Cobra" (thus mimicking
the incident, since Rawson is also a skilled sniper).[47]

In JAG, Season 1, Episode 15 ("High Ground"), Gunnery Sergeant Ray Crockett (portrayed
by Stephen McHattie) is based on Hathcock. Crockett is a sniper instructor at Quantico,
Virginia, who believes he is being "forced out of the service" short of his retirement. He
makes the statement that he "wrote most of the book" on sniper operations. The
character Rabb refers to an incident wherein Crockett pinned down an NVA unit by killing
their officer with the first shot. In Beirut, Crockett used a Browning .50 to take down an
enemy sniper at about 2,500 meters. Lastly, Gunny Crockett is a winner of The
Wimbledon Cup.[48]

The Discovery Channel series MythBusters tested the question of shooting another sniper
through their riflescope. Episode 67, entitled "Firearms Folklore" (November 29, 2006)
featured the test: "Can a bullet travel through a sniper's scope and kill him?". Using a
police industry standard SWAT sniper rifle and standard police match ammunition, the
MythBusters fired several shots at a scoped rifle mounted on a ballistics gel dummy. The
bullet was unable to hit the dummy: it was either stopped or deflected by the multiple
layers of lenses in the scope, leaving the dummy relatively unharmed. Without any clear
evidence that a bullet can penetrate a sniper scope, the MythBusters decided to label the
myth as "busted".[49] But, due to much debate by viewers, it was revisited in episode 75.
Using a period-accurate scope (this story originates from reports of Carlos Hathcock in
the Vietnam War, and the scope used by Hathcock's opponent did not have the numerous
internal optical elements of the scopes tested), it was found to be plausible.[50]

Hathcock was mentioned in the NCIS episode "One Shot, One Kill", when a white feather
was found at two crime scenes where the victims were shot and killed by a sniper. The
series protagonist, Special Agent Leroy Jethro Gibbs, a former Marine scout sniper,
realized the significance of the feather as the perpetrator's "calling card", referencing
Hathcock's nickname during the Vietnam War ("White Feather Sniper"). He credits

Hathcock with "39 confirmed kills", apparently having transposed the digits of Hathcock's
 actual 93 confirmed kills.[51]

Hathcock's duel with Cobra was mentioned in the History Channel Sniper - Inside The
Crosshairs in 2016. As in Mythbusters, this show also tested the question of whether
shooting a sniper through his scope was possible and came to the conclusion that it was
highly plausible after four shots by a modern marine sniper.[52]

See also

Jack Coughlin, a retired Marine sniper with over 60 confirmed kills whose service includes
Iraq and Somalia

Eric R. England, holds the second highest number of confirmed kills (98) for any United
States Marine Corps sniper

Chris Kyle, a Navy SEAL who holds the current record for the most confirmed kills in
American military history, with 160 kills in the Iraq War, acknowledges Hathcock on page
200 of his book American Sniper

List of historically notable United States Marines

Longest recorded sniper kills

Chuck Mawhinney, who holds the highest number of confirmed kills (103) for any United
States Marine Corps sniper in history
 Adelbert Waldron, who held the record for the most confirmed kills in American military
history, with 109 kills in Vietnam

Edward James Land - established first Marine Corps Scout Sniper school at Quantico, VA

Richard O. Culver Jr. - worked with Land in establishing the first Marine Corps Scout
Sniper School; Hathcock was Culver's Senior NCO at the school.

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Further reading

Chandler, Roy F. (1997). White feather: Carlos Hathcock USMC scout sniper: an authorized
biographical memoir (1997 ed.). Iron Brigade Armory Publishing. ISBN 978-1-885633-09-5.

Dockery, Kevin (2007). Stalkers and Shooters: A History of Snipers. Penguin. pp. 150–153.
ISBN 978-0-425-21542-5.

Dougan, Andy (2006). Through the Crosshairs: A History of Snipers (2006 ed.). Da Capo Press.
ISBN 978-0-7867-1773-6.
Henderson, Charles W. (2003). Silent Warrior (2003 ed.). Berkley Books. ISBN 978-0-425-
18864-4.

Mann, Don (2011). Inside SEAL Team Six: My Life and Missions with America's Elite Warriors. Little,
Brown and Company. ISBN 978-0-316-20429-3.

Sasser, Charles; Roberts, Craig (1990). One Shot, One Kill (1990 ed.). Pocket Books. ISBN 978-0-
671-68219-4.

Roberts, Craig; Sasser, Charles W. (2004). Crosshairs on the Kill Zone: American Combat Snipers,
 Vietnam Through Operation Iraqi Freedom. Simon and Schuster. ISBN 978-1-4165-0362-0.

Senich, Peter R. (1996). The one-round war: USMC scout-snipers in Vietnam (1996 ed.). Paladin
Press. ISBN 978-0-87364-867-7.

Kyle, Chris; McEwan, Scott; DeFelice, Jim (2012). American Sniper: The Autobiography of the Most
Lethal Sniper in U.S. Military History. Harper Collins. ISBN 978-0-06-208235-0.

External links

Marine Corps Sniper Carlos N. Hathcock , Marine Corps Heroes.

Carlos Hathcock , Sniper Central.

Vietnam: NVA General Sniper Takeout documentary by The History Channel.

 Records

Longest confirmed combat sniper-

shot kill
Preceded by Succeeded by
1967–2002
Billy Dixon Arron Perry
2,286 m (2,500 yd/1.420 mi)
Browning M2 w/.50 BMG

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