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in politics book 1 aristotle provides a

in politics book 1 aristotle provides a

in politics book 1 aristotle provides a


now-infamous but rather limited defense

now-infamous but rather limited defense

now-infamous but rather limited defense


of what he calls natural slavery in

of what he calls natural slavery in

of what he calls natural slavery in


which some people would be slaves by

which some people would be slaves by

which some people would be slaves by


nature meaning that they ought to be

nature meaning that they ought to be

nature meaning that they ought to be


slaves or that it makes sense for them

slaves or that it makes sense for them

slaves or that it makes sense for them


to be slaves to be in relations where

to be slaves to be in relations where

to be slaves to be in relations where


power is exercised upon them arbitrarily
power is exercised upon them arbitrarily

power is exercised upon them arbitrarily


and they don't have any autonomy or

and they don't have any autonomy or

and they don't have any autonomy or


decision-making capacity in how they're

decision-making capacity in how they're

decision-making capacity in how they're


going to live their lives now in point

going to live their lives now in point

going to live their lives now in point


of fact this part of Aristotle's

of fact this part of Aristotle's

of fact this part of Aristotle's


politics was indeed used or rather

politics was indeed used or rather

politics was indeed used or rather


abused by people who wanted to justify

abused by people who wanted to justify

abused by people who wanted to justify


slavery in a much broader sense than

slavery in a much broader sense than

slavery in a much broader sense than


Aristotle himself would have

Aristotle himself would have

Aristotle himself would have


countenanced as we shall see when we

countenanced as we shall see when we

countenanced as we shall see when we


look at the passages what I have in mind
look at the passages what I have in mind

look at the passages what I have in mind


here would be the justification in the

here would be the justification in the

here would be the justification in the


Confederate States of America and prior

Confederate States of America and prior

Confederate States of America and prior


to that within the United States of

to that within the United States of

to that within the United States of


Antebellum chattel slavery enslaving

Antebellum chattel slavery enslaving

Antebellum chattel slavery enslaving


people from Africa then it was also used

people from Africa then it was also used

people from Africa then it was also used


as a justification in South America to

as a justification in South America to

as a justification in South America to


justify enslaving indigenous inhabitants

justify enslaving indigenous inhabitants

justify enslaving indigenous inhabitants


but as we'll see much of that would have

but as we'll see much of that would have

but as we'll see much of that would have


been considered illegitimate from

been considered illegitimate from

been considered illegitimate from


Aristotle's point of view let's talk

Aristotle's point of view let's talk

Aristotle's point of view let's talk


about what a slave is from Aristotle's

about what a slave is from Aristotle's

about what a slave is from Aristotle's


perspective first before looking at the

perspective first before looking at the

perspective first before looking at the


question of whether slavery could be

question of whether slavery could be

question of whether slavery could be


justified so the slave is in greek

justified so the slave is in greek

justified so the slave is in greek


Doulos and you can translate that in a

Doulos and you can translate that in a

Doulos and you can translate that in a


variety of ways sometimes people want to

variety of ways sometimes people want to

variety of ways sometimes people want to


soften it by saying servant or that

soften it by saying servant or that

soften it by saying servant or that


there's other sorts of things a member

there's other sorts of things a member

there's other sorts of things a member


of the household client but one of the

of the household client but one of the


of the household client but one of the
things that is missing there is the lack

things that is missing there is the lack

things that is missing there is the lack


of inability to exit that relationship

of inability to exit that relationship

of inability to exit that relationship


if somebody is merely a servant then

if somebody is merely a servant then

if somebody is merely a servant then


they could leave of course if they're

they could leave of course if they're

they could leave of course if they're


indentured servant and that then they

indentured servant and that then they

indentured servant and that then they


can't but a regular servant could leave

can't but a regular servant could leave

can't but a regular servant could leave


and go somewhere else the slave is in

and go somewhere else the slave is in

and go somewhere else the slave is in


in Aristotle's point of view a piece of

in Aristotle's point of view a piece of

in Aristotle's point of view a piece of


property akka Tama property like books

property akka Tama property like books

property akka Tama property like books


or oxen or doors or pick whatever else

or oxen or doors or pick whatever else


or oxen or doors or pick whatever else
you like

you like

you like
and as a piece of property the slave can

and as a piece of property the slave can

and as a piece of property the slave can


be bought and sold they have a monetary

be bought and sold they have a monetary

be bought and sold they have a monetary


value probably a rather subjectively

value probably a rather subjectively

value probably a rather subjectively


determined one but as a piece of

determined one but as a piece of

determined one but as a piece of


property they are being treated not as a

property they are being treated not as a

property they are being treated not as a


person but as a thing and we might think

person but as a thing and we might think

person but as a thing and we might think


of different types of property for

of different types of property for

of different types of property for


example bits of technology other tools

example bits of technology other tools

example bits of technology other tools


animals and then we have living human

animals and then we have living human


animals and then we have living human
property slaves the other thing that's

property slaves the other thing that's

property slaves the other thing that's


even more important is that the slave

even more important is that the slave

even more important is that the slave


Aristotle stresses is a tool an organ

Aristotle stresses is a tool an organ

Aristotle stresses is a tool an organ


owned and tool is a very broad word in

owned and tool is a very broad word in

owned and tool is a very broad word in


Aristotle's work as a matter of fact

Aristotle's work as a matter of fact

Aristotle's work as a matter of fact


some of his books are actually called

some of his books are actually called

some of his books are actually called


the organ on the great tool for logic

the organ on the great tool for logic

the organ on the great tool for logic


right here's another tool this is the

right here's another tool this is the

right here's another tool this is the


the tool of tools the hand which

the tool of tools the hand which

the tool of tools the hand which


operates other tools and the slave is a
operates other tools and the slave is a

operates other tools and the slave is a


special kind of tool how are they

special kind of tool how are they

special kind of tool how are they


different than other things they're not

different than other things they're not

different than other things they're not


merely a living tool they are a tool

merely a living tool they are a tool

merely a living tool they are a tool


with a soul and and this implies not

with a soul and and this implies not

with a soul and and this implies not


just that they have life or awareness

just that they have life or awareness

just that they have life or awareness


but that they have a certain capacity

but that they have a certain capacity

but that they have a certain capacity


for thinking things through that have to

for thinking things through that have to

for thinking things through that have to


be done in their tasks sometimes at a

be done in their tasks sometimes at a

be done in their tasks sometimes at a


much higher level sometimes at a much

much higher level sometimes at a much

much higher level sometimes at a much


lower level depending on what their
lower level depending on what their

lower level depending on what their


tasks are and Aristotle actually

tasks are and Aristotle actually

tasks are and Aristotle actually


suggests that if we had tools that could

suggests that if we had tools that could

suggests that if we had tools that could


run themselves for example a loom in

run themselves for example a loom in

run themselves for example a loom in


which the shuttle would weave back and

which the shuttle would weave back and

which the shuttle would weave back and


forth by itself looms and shuttles are

forth by itself looms and shuttles are

forth by itself looms and shuttles are


very important in ancient times because

very important in ancient times because

very important in ancient times because


they were the way in which you

they were the way in which you

they were the way in which you


manufactured cloth which you need for

manufactured cloth which you need for

manufactured cloth which you need for


all of your clothing you either had to

all of your clothing you either had to

all of your clothing you either had to


get cloth from somebody else or you had

get cloth from somebody else or you had

get cloth from somebody else or you had


to manufacture it at home and it was a

to manufacture it at home and it was a

to manufacture it at home and it was a


time-consuming task and it required

time-consuming task and it required

time-consuming task and it required


certain tools to be in place in order to

certain tools to be in place in order to

certain tools to be in place in order to


process the raw materials you might

process the raw materials you might

process the raw materials you might


delegate

delegate

delegate
leave to be carrying that task out and

leave to be carrying that task out and

leave to be carrying that task out and


if you could in fact have a piece of

if you could in fact have a piece of

if you could in fact have a piece of


technology that operated itself there

technology that operated itself there

technology that operated itself there


would in fact be no reason to have a

would in fact be no reason to have a


would in fact be no reason to have a
slave doing that to devote that person

slave doing that to devote that person

slave doing that to devote that person


and their intelligence and their hours

and their intelligence and their hours

and their intelligence and their hours


to that task so a slave is a is a tool

to that task so a slave is a is a tool

to that task so a slave is a is a tool


that functions within the household to

that functions within the household to

that functions within the household to


make certain things possible a slave is

make certain things possible a slave is

make certain things possible a slave is


a tool that conduces to not just living

a tool that conduces to not just living

a tool that conduces to not just living


but living well one of the key questions

but living well one of the key questions

but living well one of the key questions


is how much they enjoy of that in the

is how much they enjoy of that in the

is how much they enjoy of that in the


household and the answer of course

household and the answer of course

household and the answer of course


varies considerably but it's never going

varies considerably but it's never going


varies considerably but it's never going
to be as much as the free members of the

to be as much as the free members of the

to be as much as the free members of the


household so one of the key questions

household so one of the key questions

household so one of the key questions


then that Aristotle is going to ask is

then that Aristotle is going to ask is

then that Aristotle is going to ask is


is anyone a slave by nature and why is

is anyone a slave by nature and why is

is anyone a slave by nature and why is


this important this by nature it implies

this important this by nature it implies

this important this by nature it implies


that if a person is a slave by nature it

that if a person is a slave by nature it

that if a person is a slave by nature it


is good for them to be a slave or it

is good for them to be a slave or it

is good for them to be a slave or it


makes sense for them to be a slave they

makes sense for them to be a slave they

makes sense for them to be a slave they


may in fact have no capacity to be

may in fact have no capacity to be

may in fact have no capacity to be


anything other than that so freeing them

anything other than that so freeing them


anything other than that so freeing them
could be a major problem because they

could be a major problem because they

could be a major problem because they


would inevitably either fall into

would inevitably either fall into

would inevitably either fall into


something worse than slavery or go back

something worse than slavery or go back

something worse than slavery or go back


to slavery if that's the case and that's

to slavery if that's the case and that's

to slavery if that's the case and that's


one of the key questions being asked the

one of the key questions being asked the

one of the key questions being asked the


other question he asks that's related to

other question he asks that's related to

other question he asks that's related to


this that helps out in illuminating this

this that helps out in illuminating this

this that helps out in illuminating this


for Aristotle is is it ever useful or

for Aristotle is is it ever useful or

for Aristotle is is it ever useful or


profitable or however you want to put it

profitable or however you want to put it

profitable or however you want to put it


some Pharaon in Greek is it ever useful
some Pharaon in Greek is it ever useful

some Pharaon in Greek is it ever useful


or is it just is it right dekai owned

or is it just is it right dekai owned

or is it just is it right dekai owned


for any person to be a slave now why is

for any person to be a slave now why is

for any person to be a slave now why is


he asking these questions here is where

he asking these questions here is where

he asking these questions here is where


we should think about ancient culture it

we should think about ancient culture it

we should think about ancient culture it


was not the case that everybody in

was not the case that everybody in

was not the case that everybody in


ancient times thought that slavery was

ancient times thought that slavery was

ancient times thought that slavery was


a-ok as

a-ok as

a-ok as
matter-of-fact Aristotle doesn't name

matter-of-fact Aristotle doesn't name

matter-of-fact Aristotle doesn't name


them by name but he brings up a number

them by name but he brings up a number

them by name but he brings up a number


of people who say that slavery is
of people who say that slavery is

of people who say that slavery is


against nature that it's never good that

against nature that it's never good that

against nature that it's never good that


it's never useful or just for people to

it's never useful or just for people to

it's never useful or just for people to


be slaves

be slaves

be slaves
so he's considering what in his time is

so he's considering what in his time is

so he's considering what in his time is


really a live question there were of

really a live question there were of

really a live question there were of


course many other people who said it is

course many other people who said it is

course many other people who said it is


you know good for people to be slaves

you know good for people to be slaves

you know good for people to be slaves


and as we're gonna see as we look at it

and as we're gonna see as we look at it

and as we're gonna see as we look at it


there's people who kind of hedge

there's people who kind of hedge

there's people who kind of hedge


back-and-forth and there are probably

back-and-forth and there are probably

back-and-forth and there are probably


some people who said I don't really care

some people who said I don't really care

some people who said I don't really care


go just go do your work okay but these

go just go do your work okay but these

go just go do your work okay but these


are important questions so I think it's

are important questions so I think it's

are important questions so I think it's


best to begin by looking at the

best to begin by looking at the

best to begin by looking at the


arguments put forward by the people who

arguments put forward by the people who

arguments put forward by the people who


say that slavery is unjust or against

say that slavery is unjust or against

say that slavery is unjust or against


nature in every case or at least in some

nature in every case or at least in some

nature in every case or at least in some


cases so he goes on this is in book one

cases so he goes on this is in book one

cases so he goes on this is in book one


he says it's not difficult to see that

he says it's not difficult to see that


he says it's not difficult to see that
those who assert that slavery is not by

those who assert that slavery is not by

those who assert that slavery is not by


nature are right in a certain fashion

nature are right in a certain fashion

nature are right in a certain fashion


their right to a certain degree he says

their right to a certain degree he says

their right to a certain degree he says


the fact is the term slavery and slave

the fact is the term slavery and slave

the fact is the term slavery and slave


are ambiguous we think of them as one

are ambiguous we think of them as one

are ambiguous we think of them as one


thing but they actually named different

thing but they actually named different

thing but they actually named different


relations different things and some of

relations different things and some of

relations different things and some of


them may be quite unnatural so he says

them may be quite unnatural so he says

them may be quite unnatural so he says


there is such a thing as a slave or a

there is such a thing as a slave or a

there is such a thing as a slave or a


man that is in slavery by law law as a

man that is in slavery by law law as a


man that is in slavery by law law as a
sort of agreement under which things

sort of agreement under which things

sort of agreement under which things


conquered and war are said to belong to

conquered and war are said to belong to

conquered and war are said to belong to


their conquerors they says this

their conquerors they says this

their conquerors they says this


conventional this this legal the word

conventional this this legal the word

conventional this this legal the word


for law here by the way is Nomos which

for law here by the way is Nomos which

for law here by the way is Nomos which


can mean law or custom so it doesn't

can mean law or custom so it doesn't

can mean law or custom so it doesn't


necessarily have to be a law on the

necessarily have to be a law on the

necessarily have to be a law on the


books it could be something that is a

books it could be something that is a

books it could be something that is a


custom of a particular people part of

custom of a particular people part of

custom of a particular people part of


their culture he says this conventional

their culture he says this conventional


their culture he says this conventional
right is actually denied or attacked by

right is actually denied or attacked by

right is actually denied or attacked by


many legal ideas just as a state's

many legal ideas just as a state's

many legal ideas just as a state's


person is impeached for proposing an

person is impeached for proposing an

person is impeached for proposing an


unconstitutional measure they say that

unconstitutional measure they say that

unconstitutional measure they say that


just because somebody is strong enough

just because somebody is strong enough

just because somebody is strong enough


to use force against another

to use force against another

to use force against another


and that doesn't mean that they should

and that doesn't mean that they should

and that doesn't mean that they should


thereby but you know by being an object

thereby but you know by being an object

thereby but you know by being an object


of aggression or a prisoner be turned

of aggression or a prisoner be turned

of aggression or a prisoner be turned


into a slave that seems quite irrational
into a slave that seems quite irrational

into a slave that seems quite irrational


quite arbitrary and as in point of fact

quite arbitrary and as in point of fact

quite arbitrary and as in point of fact


Aristotle will point out there's many

Aristotle will point out there's many

Aristotle will point out there's many


people who appear to not be natural

people who appear to not be natural

people who appear to not be natural


slaves that got swept up in some dragnet

slaves that got swept up in some dragnet

slaves that got swept up in some dragnet


and turned into slaves in the process

and turned into slaves in the process

and turned into slaves in the process


and that was illegitimate in his view so

and that was illegitimate in his view so

and that was illegitimate in his view so


he says that one reason why this this

he says that one reason why this this

he says that one reason why this this


might be attacked is that in a certain

might be attacked is that in a certain

might be attacked is that in a certain


manner virtue when it obtains resources

manner virtue when it obtains resources

manner virtue when it obtains resources


has in fact great power to use force and
has in fact great power to use force and

has in fact great power to use force and


the stronger power always possesses

the stronger power always possesses

the stronger power always possesses


superiority and something that's good

superiority and something that's good

superiority and something that's good


so it's thought by many that force

so it's thought by many that force

so it's thought by many that force


cannot be devoid of goodness but that

cannot be devoid of goodness but that

cannot be devoid of goodness but that


doesn't really get to the heart of the

doesn't really get to the heart of the

doesn't really get to the heart of the


issue then does it the fact that the

issue then does it the fact that the

issue then does it the fact that the


person who engages in aggression and

person who engages in aggression and

person who engages in aggression and


captures people and turns them into

captures people and turns them into

captures people and turns them into


slaves may be good in some sense doesn't

slaves may be good in some sense doesn't

slaves may be good in some sense doesn't


mean that that act of turning them into

mean that that act of turning them into

mean that that act of turning them into


slaves or selling them or keeping them

slaves or selling them or keeping them

slaves or selling them or keeping them


as slaves is indeed good justified or

as slaves is indeed good justified or

as slaves is indeed good justified or


even useful we can think of many other

even useful we can think of many other

even useful we can think of many other


examples that Aristotle doesn't go into

examples that Aristotle doesn't go into

examples that Aristotle doesn't go into


but of which he was quite aware namely

but of which he was quite aware namely

but of which he was quite aware namely


debt slavery in ancient times not only

debt slavery in ancient times not only

debt slavery in ancient times not only


in ancient Greece but in many other

in ancient Greece but in many other

in ancient Greece but in many other


places you could become a slave because

places you could become a slave because

places you could become a slave because


your parents had to sell you because

your parents had to sell you because


your parents had to sell you because
they were settling debts that they had

they were settling debts that they had

they were settling debts that they had


sometimes people would even themselves

sometimes people would even themselves

sometimes people would even themselves


sell themselves into slavery so as to

sell themselves into slavery so as to

sell themselves into slavery so as to


pay back all or part of their debts this

pay back all or part of their debts this

pay back all or part of their debts this


is something that goes on today by the

is something that goes on today by the

is something that goes on today by the


way in the illegitimate instances of

way in the illegitimate instances of

way in the illegitimate instances of


slavery that we still see here in in the

slavery that we still see here in in the

slavery that we still see here in in the


modern era so debt slavery would also be

modern era so debt slavery would also be

modern era so debt slavery would also be


by Nomos by law or by custom but there's

by Nomos by law or by custom but there's

by Nomos by law or by custom but there's


nothing to say that that would be

nothing to say that that would be


nothing to say that that would be
legitimate Aristotle goes on and he says

legitimate Aristotle goes on and he says

legitimate Aristotle goes on and he says


somebody might say that and

somebody might say that and

somebody might say that and


of prisoners is just but they might also

of prisoners is just but they might also

of prisoners is just but they might also


deny the assertion they could say that

deny the assertion they could say that

deny the assertion they could say that


Wars could be unjust in their origin

Wars could be unjust in their origin

Wars could be unjust in their origin


nobody who doesn't deserve slavery can

nobody who doesn't deserve slavery can

nobody who doesn't deserve slavery can


really be a slave and they might also go

really be a slave and they might also go

really be a slave and they might also go


on and make a distinction an

on and make a distinction an

on and make a distinction an


ethnocentric distinction that Aristotle

ethnocentric distinction that Aristotle

ethnocentric distinction that Aristotle


has no problem with between Greeks and

has no problem with between Greeks and


has no problem with between Greeks and
barbarians which means everybody else

barbarians which means everybody else

barbarians which means everybody else


and say that well you know enslaving

and say that well you know enslaving

and say that well you know enslaving


Greeks not a good thing but enslaving

Greeks not a good thing but enslaving

Greeks not a good thing but enslaving


barbarians that that could be all right

barbarians that that could be all right

barbarians that that could be all right


and we could think of many other

and we could think of many other

and we could think of many other


instances where people have said these

instances where people have said these

instances where people have said these


sorts of things so he talks about them

sorts of things so he talks about them

sorts of things so he talks about them


saying that Greeks themselves have taken

saying that Greeks themselves have taken

saying that Greeks themselves have taken


prisoners shouldn't be slaves but

prisoners shouldn't be slaves but

prisoners shouldn't be slaves but


barbarians are and he says what this
barbarians are and he says what this

barbarians are and he says what this


leads us to why is this important what

leads us to why is this important what

leads us to why is this important what


this leads us to is some sort of

this leads us to is some sort of

this leads us to is some sort of


principle if they're going to say

principle if they're going to say

principle if they're going to say


something like that they need a

something like that they need a

something like that they need a


criterion by which to say some people do

criterion by which to say some people do

criterion by which to say some people do


in fact deserve to be slaves if they're

in fact deserve to be slaves if they're

in fact deserve to be slaves if they're


captured but other people don't what

captured but other people don't what

captured but other people don't what


could such a criterion B what would

could such a criterion B what would

could such a criterion B what would


justify enslaving some people but not

justify enslaving some people but not

justify enslaving some people but not


enslaving others so one possibility he
enslaving others so one possibility he

enslaving others so one possibility he


says is the difference between virtue

says is the difference between virtue

says is the difference between virtue


and vice the virtuous person shouldn't

and vice the virtuous person shouldn't

and vice the virtuous person shouldn't


be a slave the vicious person should and

be a slave the vicious person should and

be a slave the vicious person should and


you know if you have households and

you know if you have households and

you know if you have households and


people you know bringing their children

people you know bringing their children

people you know bringing their children


up presumably the virtuous are gonna

up presumably the virtuous are gonna

up presumably the virtuous are gonna


generate virtuous children and the

generate virtuous children and the

generate virtuous children and the


vicious are gonna generate vicious

vicious are gonna generate vicious

vicious are gonna generate vicious


children now Aristotle of course says it

children now Aristotle of course says it

children now Aristotle of course says it


doesn't really turn out like in many

doesn't really turn out like in many

doesn't really turn out like in many


instances where a virtuous person will

instances where a virtuous person will

instances where a virtuous person will


have children and those children turn

have children and those children turn

have children and those children turn


out completely vicious and vice versa

out completely vicious and vice versa

out completely vicious and vice versa


so that's not it so what could be a

so that's not it so what could be a

so that's not it so what could be a


justification and he's discussed this a

justification and he's discussed this a

justification and he's discussed this a


little bit earlier he says that what

little bit earlier he says that what

little bit earlier he says that what


could justify slavery as natural as

could justify slavery as natural as

could justify slavery as natural as


something that is in accordance with

something that is in accordance with

something that is in accordance with


nature is several things you would need

nature is several things you would need


nature is several things you would need
to have somebody who is a natural slave

to have somebody who is a natural slave

to have somebody who is a natural slave


now what would make a person naturally

now what would make a person naturally

now what would make a person naturally


be in such a state where

be in such a state where

be in such a state where


it's better for them to be a slave than

it's better for them to be a slave than

it's better for them to be a slave than


to be free for Aristotle it has to do

to be free for Aristotle it has to do

to be free for Aristotle it has to do


with this rational part of the human

with this rational part of the human

with this rational part of the human


soul or mind being either undeveloped or

soul or mind being either undeveloped or

soul or mind being either undeveloped or


being underdeveloped it's developed to

being underdeveloped it's developed to

being underdeveloped it's developed to


the degree that it can at least listen

the degree that it can at least listen

the degree that it can at least listen


to reason on the part of somebody else

to reason on the part of somebody else


to reason on the part of somebody else
who actually does understand things but

who actually does understand things but

who actually does understand things but


it's not developed to the point where

it's not developed to the point where

it's not developed to the point where


the person can conduct their own affairs

the person can conduct their own affairs

the person can conduct their own affairs


in a way that is not going to get them

in a way that is not going to get them

in a way that is not going to get them


into some sort of trouble that's not

into some sort of trouble that's not

into some sort of trouble that's not


going to lead to problems children are

going to lead to problems children are

going to lead to problems children are


like this when they are young but they

like this when they are young but they

like this when they are young but they


develop out of that unless they become

develop out of that unless they become

develop out of that unless they become


the kind of people who Aristotle would

the kind of people who Aristotle would

the kind of people who Aristotle would


say would be natural slaves so for the

say would be natural slaves so for the


say would be natural slaves so for the
natural slave who has not developed

natural slave who has not developed

natural slave who has not developed


those rational capacities it is in fact

those rational capacities it is in fact

those rational capacities it is in fact


advantageous to them to be under

advantageous to them to be under

advantageous to them to be under


somebody else's guidance somebody else's

somebody else's guidance somebody else's

somebody else's guidance somebody else's


rule to not get to decide for themselves

rule to not get to decide for themselves

rule to not get to decide for themselves


what to do with their earnings or their

what to do with their earnings or their

what to do with their earnings or their


time or whether they go from place to

time or whether they go from place to

time or whether they go from place to


place

place

place
or perhaps even over their own sexuality

or perhaps even over their own sexuality

or perhaps even over their own sexuality


there's another key component that is
there's another key component that is

there's another key component that is


absolutely necessary here that often

absolutely necessary here that often

absolutely necessary here that often


gets left out in the abuses of this

gets left out in the abuses of this

gets left out in the abuses of this


let's assume that there are natural

let's assume that there are natural

let's assume that there are natural


slaves you do not have a slave by nature

slaves you do not have a slave by nature

slaves you do not have a slave by nature


unless that person is also under a

unless that person is also under a

unless that person is also under a


natural master they are a slave by

natural master they are a slave by

natural master they are a slave by


nature in a way but it's not really

nature in a way but it's not really

nature in a way but it's not really


advantageous to them to be under anybody

advantageous to them to be under anybody

advantageous to them to be under anybody


whatsoever I mean it could be that the

whatsoever I mean it could be that the

whatsoever I mean it could be that the


person who owns them is actually a
person who owns them is actually a

person who owns them is actually a


natural slave and they just happen to be

natural slave and they just happen to be

natural slave and they just happen to be


in the right position in some elite and

in the right position in some elite and

in the right position in some elite and


they can't manage their own affairs well

they can't manage their own affairs well

they can't manage their own affairs well


and then they screw up the slaves

and then they screw up the slaves

and then they screw up the slaves


affairs as well a natural master would

affairs as well a natural master would

affairs as well a natural master would


have to be somebody who is fully

have to be somebody who is fully

have to be somebody who is fully


rational who has self-control who either

rational who has self-control who either

rational who has self-control who either


has or is on the way to developing the

has or is on the way to developing the

has or is on the way to developing the


moral virtues especially prudence which

moral virtues especially prudence which

moral virtues especially prudence which


is required to make sense out of

is required to make sense out of

is required to make sense out of


decision

decision

decision
that we need to make regarding ourselves

that we need to make regarding ourselves

that we need to make regarding ourselves


and regarding others and our households

and regarding others and our households

and regarding others and our households


without a natural master you don't

without a natural master you don't

without a natural master you don't


really have slavery by nature or in

really have slavery by nature or in

really have slavery by nature or in


accordance with nature now the question

accordance with nature now the question

accordance with nature now the question


is open how many of these natural

is open how many of these natural

is open how many of these natural


masters are there out there

masters are there out there

masters are there out there


Aristotle doesn't discuss that but

Aristotle doesn't discuss that but


Aristotle doesn't discuss that but
that's well worth considering so if it's

that's well worth considering so if it's

that's well worth considering so if it's


going to be natural slavery Aristotle

going to be natural slavery Aristotle

going to be natural slavery Aristotle


says the rule needs to be the best

says the rule needs to be the best

says the rule needs to be the best


option for both of them obviously for

option for both of them obviously for

option for both of them obviously for


the master it's nice to have a slave but

the master it's nice to have a slave but

the master it's nice to have a slave but


it has to be advantageous for the slave

it has to be advantageous for the slave

it has to be advantageous for the slave


or else it's not really you could say

or else it's not really you could say

or else it's not really you could say


good or just or natural slavery it

good or just or natural slavery it

good or just or natural slavery it


becomes slavery against nature

becomes slavery against nature

becomes slavery against nature


so Aristotle's defense of slavery here

so Aristotle's defense of slavery here


so Aristotle's defense of slavery here
is quite a bit more limited than many

is quite a bit more limited than many

is quite a bit more limited than many


people assume honestly many instances of

people assume honestly many instances of

people assume honestly many instances of


slavery not only in later history but in

slavery not only in later history but in

slavery not only in later history but in


his own time would be viewed by him as

his own time would be viewed by him as

his own time would be viewed by him as


illegitimate as unjust as dis

illegitimate as unjust as dis

illegitimate as unjust as dis


advantageous for the people involved as

advantageous for the people involved as

advantageous for the people involved as


unnatural so we now see what the

unnatural so we now see what the

unnatural so we now see what the


conditions are for natural slavery and

conditions are for natural slavery and

conditions are for natural slavery and


we can think about whether they're ever

we can think about whether they're ever

we can think about whether they're ever


in fact met
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