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En Common Installation Rules For J1708, J1939 CANbus Data and OBD DTC Reading
En Common Installation Rules For J1708, J1939 CANbus Data and OBD DTC Reading
Preface ................................................................................................................................................................2
1.1 Introduction................................................................................................................................................2
1.2 Legal notice ................................................................................................................................................2
1.3 PDF viewing notes .....................................................................................................................................2
1.4 Document change log ...............................................................................................................................2
2.2 Antenna
It is recommended to place GPS/GLONASS antenna behind the dashboard as close to the window as
possible.
Adapters allow to read data from vehicle`s system without physically connecting to the CANbus wires. It
is a safe, reliable and quick way to connect.
Installation instruction, supported vehicle list or other information source provided by Ruptela will specify
when to use these adapters. Some of these cases will be discussed below.
Usually this includes light vehicles and vans. However, there might also be some exceptions.
Choose preferred LCV Group and Sub group combination manually or use “?” button and select
your vehicle by Make, Model and Manufacture year.
In the FM device configuration always set configured interface into the "silent" mode (check box
Active is NOT enabled).
3.3 CANbus data reading from HCV vehicles
HCV vehicle in this case is any vehicle that requires FMS, J1708 or HCV mode set in the FM device's
configuration. FMS mode can be set on one of the CAN interfaces, it would looks something like this:
J1708 mode can be set on RS485 interface, it would looks something like this:
HCV mode is in many cases very similar to the LCV mode. It is used to read CANbus parameters from
the Heavy Commercial Vehicles. In configurator it would looks something like this:
HCV vehicles usually covers trucks, buses and specialized construction vehicles. However, there are also
a few vans that fall under this definition.
Only after device configuration you can begin device installation. Connect EasyCAN Volvo to the
RS485 serial interface on the FM device.
Locate J1708 wires in the vehicle. Place these wires in the EasyCAN Volvo.
Choose preferred HCV Group and Sub group combination manually or use “?” button and select
your vehicle by Make, Model and Manufacture year.
In the FM device configuration always set configured interface into the "silent" mode (check box
Active is NOT enabled).
If this truck requires a HCV mode, then set CAN interface into HCV mode.
Choose preferred HCV Group and Sub group combination manually or use “?” button and
select your vehicle by Make, Model and Manufacture year. Check box "Active" NOT
checked.
Connect EasyCAN Volvo to the PortC (RS485) serial interface on the FM device.
Connect EasyCAN for J1939 CAN line to the CAN interface on the FM device.
Locate J1708 and J1939 CANbus wires in the vehicle. Place J1708 wires in the EasyCAN Volvo.
J1939 wires go into the ordinary EasyCAN.
J1708 and J1939 CANbus lines: CAN parameters and their values
In this case FM device’s configuration pays an important role. Values for CAN parameters can be
obtained from both CAN lines. Three common cases are described below.
Configuration case 1
PortC on FM device: J1708
PortC on FM device: J1708
- or - CAN/CAN2 interface on FM device: HCV
CAN/CAN2 interface on FM device: FMS
HCV Group: Tractor; HCV Subgroup: Tractor1
Parameter Source Description
FM device can obtain parameter values via
both interfaces, however J1939 interface
has a higher priority. Device checks both
CAN engine speed interfaces. If parameter values from both
sources are valid, than data from J1939
CAN Actual engine percent load
CAN line will be used.
CAN fuel level1 Dynamic
If there is no data form J1939 or parameter
CAN engine hours values are invalid, then data from J1708
CAN high resolution total vehicle distance will be used.
If there is no data form J1708 or parameter
values are invalid, then data from J1939
will be used.
When J1708 interface is enabled in the
CAN fuel rate
configuration, FM device will use data from
CAN engine total fuel used J1708 this source to calculate parameter values.
This is true even when data from the J1708
CAN high resolution engine total fuel used
CAN line is not available.
Values for the remaining CAN parameters
are always obtained from the J1939 line.
Remaining CAN parameters J1939
This is true even when data from the J1939
CAN line is not available.
Configuration case 2
PortC on FM device: J1708
CAN/CAN2 interface on FM device: HCV
HCV Group: Volvo; HCV Subgroup: Volvo6
Parameter Source Description
FM device can obtain parameter values via
both interfaces, however J1939 interface has
a higher priority. Device checks both
interfaces. If parameter values from both
sources are valid, than data from J1939 CAN
CAN engine speed line will be used.
Dynamic
CAN fuel level1 If there is no data form J1939 or parameter
values are invalid, then data from J1708 will
be used.
If there is no data form J1708 or parameter
values are invalid, then data from J1939 will
be used.
CAN fuel rate When J1708 interface is enabled in the
CAN engine total fuel used configuration, FM device will use data from
J1708 this source to calculate parameter values.
CAN high resolution engine total fuel used This is true even when data from the J1708
CAN engine hours CAN line is not available.
Configuration case 3
PortC on FM device: J1708 PortC on FM device: J1708
CAN/CAN2 interface on FM device: HCV - or - CAN/CAN2 interface on FM device: LCV
HCV Group: Any; HCV Subgroup: Any LCV Group: Any; LCV Subgroup: Any
Parameter Source Description
FM device can obtain parameter values form
J1939
both CAN lines. Some parameters in records
All CAN parameters and
can have values form J1939 data, other from
J1708
J1708.
3.3.8 Tachograph data reading
Detailed descriptions about tachograph data reading, FM device connection and configuration can be
found at doc.ruptlea.lt. Before any action regarding tachograph connection refer to this instruction first:
FM-Tco4 HCV + Ruptela Tachograph Solution
Below you will find just a few key points that are important to mention considering CANbus data
reading:
An interface for third party devices, which enables them to read truck data via FMS standard,
sometimes allows tachograph data reading. This is possible when truck supports such a feature.
Connection in this case should be made directly to the FMS connector pins. Also CAN interface
on the FM device must be set in “Active” mode.
In all other cases, where truck does not support such feature, standard FMS connector is not
available or when EasyCANs are used (direct connection to the wires is not allowed), tachograph
data cannot be obtained via same CANbus line. Then, to read tachograph you will be required to
make a second connection directly to the tachograph. For that a second CAN port on the FM
device can be used. It also have to be configured accordingly. A likely configuration example for
such case is showed below. Here connection was made to the CANbus line, where data is
transmitted in FMS standard.
If this truck requires a HCV mode, then configuration would look like this:
4 Connection and configuration for OBD DTC reading
Note
It is possible to configure OBD on one CAN interface and LCV or FMS on the other. If LCV+OBD or
FMS+OBD is configured, it is important that the OBD interface works properly! If the OBD is not
receiving information (no communication), then the other interface (FMS or LCV) will not work.
Additionally if OBD+LCV or OBD+FMS is used, both CAN interfaces cannot be connected to the same
spot! (This may occur if LCV or FMS is connected via the OBD connector PIN 6 & PIN14. In this case the
OBD connecter should be connected as intended, while LCV or FMS should be connected to the wires
using a EasyCAN adapter).
OBD Diagnostic Trouble Code reading is a different functionality based on other principles than
previously discussed CANbus data reading. To read the codes, you will have to connect/plug the device
into the 16-pin OBD II diagnostic connector, which is usually located under the dash near the steering
column. For OBD DTC reading EasyCAN adapters are not needed.
OBD DTC reading functionality is supported by:
FM-Plug4+
FM-Tco4 HCV & FM-Tco4 LCV
FM-Tco3 (special firmware version needed)
All these devices support the following OBD II signal protocols:
ISO 9141-2 / ISO 14230-4
ISO 15765-4
FM-Plug4 and FM-Plug4+ are meant to be connected to the OBD II (SAE J1962) socket. Other types of
OBD sockets, that conform to different standards (OBD-I; OBD-1.5; etc.) are not supported.
Only FM-Plug4+ can read OBD DTC. For some vehicles OBD DTC can be obtained through the OBD CAN
interface, for others through the OBD K-line. During device configuration, when preparing it to read the
OBD DTC, you can choose what interface to enable. Refer to supported OBD vehicle list. In its 4th
column named "Connection” you will find recommendations:
https://doc.ruptela.lt/display/AB/OBD
If a vehicle from this list in "Connection" column has K-line listed as recommended interface,
then during FM-Plug4+ configuration it is also recommended to enable K-line interface.
If a vehicle from this list in "Connection" column has CAN listed as a recommended interface,
then during FM-Plug4+ configuration it is also recommended to enable CAN interface.
Recommendations for other FM devices
Other FM devices are connected directly to the OBD CAN or OBD K-line interfaces via wires. Connection
instructions available at doc.ruptela.lt. Similarly, during device configuration, when preparing to read
the OBD DTC, you can choose what interface to enable. Again, refer to supported OBD vehicle list for
the recommendations.