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MATTER

OF
CRAFT

PARMA CHATTERJEE 31

hese days when we discuss an art form,, we tend

T to forget for some inexplicable reason the very


components that make it what it is. The craft that
enables an artist to express him/herself through a
medium seems to be regarded as a necessary evil
rather than an absolute precc,ndition. It is a malaise
that has overtaken the Arts particularly the cinema.
We have now, for our ben it, the so-called cineastes
who discuss what the giea Kenji Mizoguchi called
'the Flickers' from every c.inceivable viewpoint, be it
sociological, historical, ps)chological, philosophical
or even psychiatric; every Oing, that is, except the
cinematic! Given this strangt situation directors like
Mani Kaul suffer, despite their continuous mastery of
film language and signal coarribution to it, because
critics are Hind to their essemial cinematic qualities
and stick all sorts of labels including that of being
metaphysical onto the outward layers of their work

C/NEMAYA 31 I 19.9t
because of their narrative methods that only appear the blackboard in school. He regarded this phenom..
to he, but certainly are not. mystifying. enon as normal till he was caught out by his father I
Kaui's !::.. on a f,rnily excursion and treated. When he saw thf. q
.1
ability to translate with fidelity the vision seen in the world with his first pair of glasses it was magical and 1
mind's eye into a vivid cinematic image. His bril- for a long time he would get up at the crack of dawn irl
liance in this area first became apparent in a student to see the city of Udaipur come alive before his eyes. 1
film Shraddha, the name of the wife in the work made When he made A Day's Bread in 1970 on Mohan $
at the Film- Institute of India thirty years ago. In this Rakesh's story he was 26. The Film Finance Corpora- I
short, simple tale of a middle-class young man don, now the National Film Development Corpora-
Murad Ali tion, gave him just enough money to
in The Cloud stay alive - Rs. 250,000 or just over US$
Door (1994) 25,00) at the time. With an Anillex
camera and six lights he made a visual
tour de force that also made the reputa-
tion of his colleague, the cinematogra-
pher K K Mahajan.
Using the tonal range of the black and
white emulsion with distinction. he
brought into play the 32mm lens'
distinctive qualities in portraiture. He
photographed his lead actress, and paid
tribute to her in close-up with this
problematic wide-angle lens that could
distort the human face at a close range.
The lonely housewife, standing under-
32 neath a tree on the highway with a tiffin
carrier for her truck-driver husband has
become a memory-image in lodian and
indeed world cinema. He had, by his
own admission, photographed this
silent, gentle beautiful woman with a
32mm from slightly below eye-level
with the camera tilting ever so slightly
up. This shawl-draped beauty with sad *
eyes, whose lot is to wait for her not I
always reliable man, is the first of Kaul's
suffering heroines. The others are-
Mallika, the grea: Sanskrit poet
-_ making up with his wife-after quarrelling with her ___Kalidasi's beloved iri the perit.d piece•-beil -on
over his refusal to drink a glass of milk, the boy Mohan Rakesh's A Monsoon Day and the-silenfbilde in
- _
director handled volumes and cinematic space with- In Two Minds-. _

great-assurance and originality. This is all the_rnore Kaul's feeling for the human face is only _ matthed
astonishing as at that time-at_the. Film.Institufe very _by_his love for landscape, albci_t_animared by the

little practical training in cinematography was . human presence. Take, for instance, the shot of the
imparted to students of the direction course. This train drawn by a steam engine chugging across a
ability to 'see' and 'transform' has, perhaps, its serene, almost dormant nature in A Day's Bread. It has
origins in his childhood. all the grave beauty of a sustained note - in a vocal
As a litre boy growing up in Udaipur in Rajasthan alnap (introduction) in Dhrupad singing. Kau!, much
he suffered from acute myopia and was unable to see later. went to the veena maestro Zia Mohiuddin Dagar,

C6161.1AYA 31 / 1996
scion of the illustrious Dagar family, one of the he was literally without any resources. Arrr 2cl with a
• reading exponents of Dhrupad, the most ancient form 16mm Bolex reflex camera with a constant speed
F
of Hindustani classical music. The cinematic image of motor, a 16-86mm Switar Zoom lens, a tripod and
1/ t he train almost presagcs a deeply embedded yearning four sun guns, two of which failed in the fluctuating
:.-ri7hin the director. voltage conditions that mark rural electricity supply
A • usi cal • image but different in content and in India, Kaul ventured forth into the deserts of
s pirit is that of a horse seen from a high-angle, open Rajasthan to shoot his unusual love story derived
.t.rindow, disappearing down a wooded path subtly from a folk tale of a wife impregnated by a ghost
graded in greys in A Monsoon Day. It has within it while her trader husband is away. -Making a virtue of
--connadictory resonances: of pulsating-life and of necessity he used the Kodalcchrome1WversaLemtil-
loss, thus being celebratory and elegiac arthe one and sion rated at 25 ASA.clay-tight and 40 -ASA tungsten
t he same time. with telling effect to make a haunting film.- _
- _
There areother instances from the same film that He used the limitations of his audio-visual re-
king as limp to one's throat. Take: foi- instance, sources to find a new narrative mode-aliclexamine_=-:
Mallika in mid-shot feeding her pet deer: a-functional the silent cinema technic* of telling the story -
•act in a mirac:.! i lighting and composition is through pictures. He employed a cl:,t-rged folk ballad
suddenly changed into an intensely poetic one. as a leitmotif to punctuate the narration that used the
Another example is the final meeting of the poet spoken word sparingly. With practically no lights to
Kalidasa with Mallika in middle-age in the key shot of work with, he even managed a few elegant night
the film as the camera tilts up towards a sky full of sequences. But the most memorable image was a
shredded clouds after Kalidasa has told his beloved zoom out from a tree with almost translucent healthy
about the vastness of life and by implication their green leaves photographed in the evening cross-light
own place in its expanse. The viewer is suddenly as the silent bride goes away in a bullock cart
overcome with powerful emotion thus giving the lie towards a desert expanse.
to the charge made by many critics that Mani Kaul's He was to turn, with a typical mixture of cussed-
work lacks emotion. ness and ability, the zoom lens into a potent weapon 33
In the very same film he also used cross-fades of expression later when he went on to make Dhrupod
within the same sequence, sometimes within the on the Dagar Bani or Dagar School of Dhrupad
same scene, to handle both time arid mood in a singing and veena playing. He again made the simplest
unique way. Here time, seemingly suspended for the and most effective shot in the film: an austere zoom
waiting Mallika, is surreptitiously marking and out of a lad practising singing in a corridor tells us
transforming her as it is the surrounding countryside. more about the subject than the bravura sequence in
This is the second remarkable example oFthe use of the end that leaves the viewer in awe because of the
opticals in postwar cinema, the other being in Alain sheer expertise of camera movement and the ma-
Resnais' Hiroshima mon amour, where the painful nipulation of space, hence perspective.
memories of the French heroine's past overlap with He has with good reason become a cult figure
the present thus subtly altering, influencing her because of his phenomenal grasp of craft. He can
relationship with her Japanese lover, both of whom work with a novice cameraman and make him
have come through the Second World War with perform like a champion. When In Two Minds was
scarred psyches. made on a schoolboy's pocket money he personally
Kaul's career has been dogged till recently by the photographed the 16mm reversal original on 35mm
lack of proper funding and he has invariably fallen Eastman negative frame by frame over a period of
back on Government funding that has been far from fifteen days on the Oxberrystand set up for him
generous. He has as a result developed great resource- especially at Prasad Laboratories, Madras, 23 years
fulness and can give more value for money than any ago. This was in the pre-liquid gate days and
other director in the business. The only other person blowing up footage from 16mm to 35mm was a very
who could perhaps match him in this regard was the risky business. Those who have seen the film will
late G Aravindan always remember its images. It is indeed a great pity
By the time In Two Minds, his third film, was made that only soldiers get decotated for gallantry in

CINIMAYA 31 1996
action beyond the call of duty. Had there been such a tended to disregard the written text, being the first
provision for artists then Kaul would have been 'non-literary director ill Indian films. In the early
amongst the first to be so honoured. days of his grand forays into black and white, he
He has always heavily influenced the look of every eschewed dramatic dialogue delivery in favour of a
film of his and has conclusively proved that he, and slow, deliberate style u I rn inade into d butt of jokes.
nor the cameraman, is responsible for the visual style But he somehow transcended this by using his flair
that has come to dominate his work - especially after for incidental sounds and music. His feaure films
his first two films. This is all the more interesting followed a style that was diametrically opposite to
because he has never ever transgressed upon the the prevalent dramatic one favoured by large
rights of the operating cameraman. When circum- audiences. The tempo too was slow though never
Zia Mohiuddin without interest.
Dagar in Dhrupad The biggest hurdle that he La i to
(1982) overcome like every genuine 1 mmaker
was the use of colour. He was a.: pains to
learn to use it organically, elo jaently and
not symbolically or decorativeiv. He did
not always succeed as his love for
primary colours was very strong. How-
ever, he often managed to turn a weak-
ness into a virtue and without notice
could produce an image that gripped the
imagination - for example the shot of the
dark, almost subterranean glove on the
beach av. akitst a olowitw backv,round of
pearly pink. taken early in the morning in
34 Idiot. It may interest readers to know that
stances pushed him against the wall he this film was shot entirely with a 28mm lens; Kaul
unhesitatingly chose the extraordinary still photogra- uses the distorting characteristics of this wide-angle
pher Navroz Contractor to photograph In Two Minds. lens to mirror the distortions in the lives of his
Similarly when he did documentaries for the characters. Incidentally Idiot also makes virtuoso use
stultifying (government) Films Division of India, he of the crab dolly in interiors. His ways of seeing will
worked with journeymen cameramen whom he certainly be enhanced as he works with European
inspired to perform way beyond their customary labs. Rank, London processed his latest featurette Thz
proficiency. Nomad Puppeteers of Rajasthan and Arrival Cloud Door and shall presumably process the next one
prove the point. Danish Girls Show Everything. He is, finally in his early
In recent years he has helped cinematographer fifties, finding backing in Europe that will enable
Piyush Shah find himself. He told him in his typical, him to -.York comfortably after years of struggle.
casual manner that the most expressive range on the His vision of the world changed after his last three
ZOOM lens is b- etween- 28 and 40mm - _that is where a films. He-seemed at that point ready 05 become a
film gets made! He dlso informe-d the focus-puller woman's director like Kenji Mizoguchi7Max-0- phuls
Rafe MiThammad,-about how to pull focus in an and- George Cukor, all masters temperamentally
expressive, but unobtrusive-way so that the viewer dissimilar to him and to each other but unitc.d in _
feels the impact of the_exer.cise Without ever nO-ticing _their love for
_ women. Kaul plOceeded in the direc-
- -
the means-employed to achieve it. ft took twelve don of inforrnation &tiering, towards a highly .
takes to get the necessary shot but at the end of it personal, poetic notion of the documentary form.
there was great satisfaction for both the teacher and With Idiot he has come back to fiction films and shall,
the pupil. it is hoped, stay there a long time finding new
If all this reads like a eulogy then it is only avenues of exploration with his hard won mastery of
partially true. He has had problems with scripts and film craft.

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located. The main character, But that does not come out in your film,
• Myshkin, is very much Russian in unless one follows it very thoroughly or
the b(iok hat you do not know :!oF.ely. He is atually the wisest of them
where he is from. all.

QLESTIONENG In the blm you don't know how he is


finked e, idi the people in Bombay - you
There's a slight problem, which I
wanted to avoid. He could easily

don't understand whose son he is, how he

FIXED knows the servant in the other family. It's


very confusing.
But tha: part is not confusing for
long. 'foil see, the whole problem

NOTIONS today a:. I see it, and what affects


me very deeply, is the conflict of
identity. In fact, it's such a
superficial conflict of identity
• based on religious and cultural
issues. Communities are preju-
diced against each other all over
Soon after a the world, not just in India. For
me, it is very important to find
screening of Idiot somebody we don't know
anything about. In fact, when for
Mani Kaul answered the first time he hears about the
marriage - where he gets an have been made into d religious
questions on his kind epileptic fit - the excitement for figure - a moral and religious
him is great.... It's the anonymity figure. I didn't want that at all.
of cinema to
36 I like but the word anonymous is
16-year-old not a very happy word because How would it be moral?
today it has various connotations Because he becomes a character
Inca Yamini Roy - associated with consumerism. who is so very sacrificing and
Like in today's world the human suffers a lot. Therefore, he is
being too is like an object in the more intelligent. He is not
market. The culture with which* intelligent simply because he
we are associated is also being knows nore or he can atiswer
destroyed so we are also becom- questions. When he talks, you
How different is your film, Idiot, frail
ing the anonymous man in a realise he knows more about life
the book? How different is the story? And
consumerist world. itself. There is a problem, you
when yo;t heaan to make the film did yau
know - he ^,iitht come across as a
intend iv:- illm to fall into the same
So how's this connected with the film? pathetic figure.
pattern as the book or did you see it
I alp talking in two ways - when • _
differently? _ - _ -
use the word anonymiius, I -do _ - - But yin don't have to involve teligion if
I tried to be as close to the book
not mean-this kind of anonymity. you want to make a person intelligent. If
as possible. But I was not - inter-
I mean, he is still ftesh and pure - doesn't come through religion.
ested in creating an interpretation
where the mind is still alive to _- What does it come through? I
of it_ The_ book has_ a very definite ,
traditions. _-mean, I also believe that it does_
view and ! was not interested in
not come throzigh religion.
that kind of interpretation
Yes, he is the most innocent in the world.
because I had a view. I can tell
That's what makes him an idiot. Intelligence from my point of view ...
you about what I feel.... i am very
comes from -
interested in charicters that are
But he is not an idiot From?
not confined geographically. or
No, he is not innocent in the face
are cultwally very specifically
of struggle - don't know because I haven't read the

•, :iYA 31 / 1996
oo k - . I don't know how he got to be more You're going to mcke hir., behave like a incorporated in the form, but that Stills from Idiot
,
I

roiligent than the rest of them. You can corrupt character, So, you make him hold a is the second question. Anyway, I
<fe
from the way he talks, from some of the glass in a particular way and say a bad was talking of the question of
,Inas he says that he is a thinker. He is man holds a glass like that: a good man behaviour. When you have very
cr-tqe involved in his own world and he's an will pick up his glass gently, a bad man stereotypical characters in the
rver. He thinks about everything he will handle it roughly. films it is actually based on the
obstrres- You have an order in mind the reduction of a certain kind of
wen, when I said that there's a moment you start to interview; behaviour - meaning if I want the
danger of turning-him into a everything that doesn't pertain to character of corrupt person what
, refigious figuruethat.l meant was _the intery_iew_ i_s_ unnecessary. _ _ should-I look for in the person?—.7
- that. you may haye-a pfciblein of -Which brings me to the secon4-__
intelligence. You tend to create an question:- how that which_ is. An absolutely corrupt person can be an
image of intelligence in-which _. unrelated is unnecessary so the _. absolutely smooth talker. Yob can have a
case the person develops certain unfolding of the plot. very kind, normal.person who's not the
sigto and v7ays- Of liehaViour, - _ - _ slightest bit spicfous.-...jdoi't know how
talking,. sometimes manipulating like the Ole of the sister - you-don't to explain this.
languages, which makes him actually come to know that she's married What you are-trying to say is that
sound intelligent. But being the idea of corrup-
intelligent is a very difficult tion may not
t hing. What you are talking of is vividly show on a
a certain behaviour. That's an person ... how does
image of intelligence. To be one convey that in
honest is something else. It's not a film? If you're
behaving intelligently. I may not not showing it
behave intelligently but I am - physically then
what is its exist-
But when I talk to you I can make out ence in the film?
you're very intelligent. 37
You see, its not that when we That's it -
associate a certain kind of Forget abounny
behaviour with being innocent or film. I am raising
gullible that We shift the whole an issue: that when
issue to a moral gromd. For ex- you're showing an
ample, this is an intilligent man: intelligent man and
see how he talks, how he sits. you do not wish to
show it physically
No, an intelligent man can sit any way he how do you convey
his qualities - of
Then you're saying he looks how much he
dumb. He need i•ot look intelli- knows, what are
gent. his capacities to
grasp and to learn,
You have to have so i. thing that can show his capacity to
his intelligence! innovate, capacity
But now that's (Hbatable. The to the man. Like the roles you talked of, to make new links. These are all
idea of behaviour is at the root of that do not have any particular sequences his qualities and if it does not
the concept of characterisation. in the story. I couldn't understand at least. have to show on his face or his
That you make a character and say But you said it helps to orchestrate the body or the way he sits, then how
that this charactes is going to be sequence. do you show it?
good, then you associate one kind But there's something in it that
of behaviour with him. See, if I connects with an outside world; By the way he talks to somebody, in a
-a t . this clialatu.i is gull% u bc ;;.is,OiliCts,ai.Zs 7

corrupt - valid. Something that needs to be If you take a person in real life

CINF MAYA 31 J1996


who's like Myshkin. a thinker, an thoughts as one does in a feature Your films are among the very few that
observer who does not express film in which one has to deal play on sound and have no specific story.
• hoc ?nd abi,trart eid if you
very intelligent, then at some channelise thoughts. want the audience to foliow your Jiaioque
point people should realise lie is too closely but concentrate on the sound aryl
intelligent. Yes, but in cinema you're used to the image, then I think it is too long.
See, I have personally done everything being laid out for you, the story, The basic problem arises in not
away with the idea of the structure, everything has a speofic being able to relate to a work
characterisation, because I feel form - the way people behave - you know which does not have, first, a
that characterisation does not that this person is a fool, that this person centre and, then, a structure. A
belong to cinema. It belongs is good. But with you, you have a different structure enables you to relate to
either to a certain kind of theatre point of view, you don't want to do ii in the whole meaning. If I make
Lore my Eyes or to a certain kind of literature, that particular way. something in clay, I take some
(1988) and I think even literature has That is the first assumption. The wire and create a rough structure
second is whether that of the figure and then I start
person or group of putfing some clay around those
people will relate to the pliable wires and this structure is
entire image. The not just holding the clay or
4 painter Cezanne used to giving it form but also guiding it.
r'
`;r•-
•;, a. take very little time to It also makes you relate to the
• -- -• _ paint eyes which is the whole immediately: you have an
-
r? -4. - most important feature idea of what the posture is like, it
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of the face and he used gives you a contact with the


•••-, • to take two to three whole. Now, in any architecture,
months painting the the idea of the structure is to
sea, because he said provide a contact with whole of
that "there's no corner the building. Neemrana, where I
38 of a painting." For him shot my film The (loud Door, is a
given it up. It is just not the the entire image was important. fort which I am told wok some
essential issue anymore, at least Now, for example, if you work 400-500 years to make. Nobody
with me. The conflict - all the with an actor often the actor only had an idea, when the fort began,
drama as far as I am concerned - wants to show only his or her of what it would look like. They
comes not only through the face, so I tell them no, I am going began with terraces, certain kinds
people I am using, it comes to show only your hands, and just of doors, certain windows, with
through the image that I am like your face this is 'your' hand, voids but with no idea of a
using, the sound I am using, the how can you say that your face is whole; so there is this material
editing that I am doing. My more precious than your hand? but no structure. But now you
editing, my camera positions, my How can you feel that way? I . can look at that fort again and
sound. music, are not meant only have paid attention to these. again everyday because what is
to enhance the performance of details. If you stand in front of an happening is that everyday it gets
:he actors. I believe. that if you're__ image you won't look at the _ a new alignment: a dome gets
given lily film, and if you areltot___ -hands imme_dia_tely; you look ac .aligned to a windoWhi a_certain
looking at the-people, but the -the face because somehow you Way, and because of a cifange in a -
whole image7-yquill get involved - believe in a centre to tEe uni-- certain posiTion and because of no
and _absorbed in the idea as the verse. Philosophers have for the overriding structure that was
film unfolds. What I am trying to last thousands of years .believed in present before the window_came __
say is it is not just the person, but - the 'ce—rtaiiit-y. gf the universe, exis-teirce,---y-o-u- Suddenly -
the whole imagE that is impor- that there is nothing uncertain discover a completely shifted or _
tant. My film Before My Eyes, shot in about it. Similarly, the face is the changed alignment. Or you find a
Kashmir, which is 23 minutes centre of Cie body. Now I b:alieve wall aligned with the hill in a
long. has got nothing except that this is actually uncertain, and certain way, and the light
inountains, forests, rocks, trees. that there is no centre, either of changes as evening falls and it
It's not meant co create specific the universe or of the body. is a different alignment in a

CINEMAYA 31 / 1996
different way. something new, a different angle. film like that, but it ended
The idea of perspective arose It's not a question of seeing because physically I can't make a
from the idea of conveigence and something new, but because of film of more than two hours I
e idea of structure arose from the film, something arises in your mean, that the film can end only
dlat of perspective. Imagine what head because of what you see. physically.
kind of films I make - when I
. d3n't have a centre, or a structure What? But if you make a film that pcople do not
of which I am-not certain. What I A new thought - that is the understand -
want to relate to is the idea of purpose of my film. If the film is That's a possibility - that they -
—uncertainty '--cructal for me is-the Ro shOw-you soniething that.is- would-not understand. But the _
uncertain..-There is a possibility alr-eady known, not-only by-the more unfortunate thing is that
that the audience will not filmmaker but also by the - there's not even a curiosity to
-unTerstand, but the more audience, whtre will it lead us? understand which is a tragedy. - -Stills from
unfortunate thing is that there is At any. given_stage-_of time for all What I am trying-to say is..that -the Idiot
not even a -curiosity to understand that we know; therels-always
- which is a tragedy. something that is unknown.
There has been no time in the
I understand very well your point of view history of the world when
and how you - everything has been known and
Sorry for interrupting you; won't there shall be no time when
you grant me this much that a everything will be known. It's an
film like that for the first time
will cause a very seVere sense of al

disorientation - I mean, you can't you know yourself as part of a


blame me, you know! galaxy, as part of a universe -
No, I'm not blaming you. I suppose each where does it end? If it doesn't
time one looks at your films one sees end then we're living in a very,
very uncertain
- world. If world we are exposed to on
we're doing television is killing the capacity of
that, then wanting to understand. It feeds
where is the you like you're a sick, old person
question of at home and it feeds you as if you
certainly have no capacity for chewing. I
ending a film, am using the word chewing
or of certainly because the mind is like the
making a stomach. What food is to stom-
character, or ach, thought is to the mind. If!
of making a were to give you only pre-
structure? digested material where the mind
That's what does not have to exercise itself
we look for you would sooner or later lose
when we go the capacity of making your own
to a film. You kind of links, of utilising your
don't watit to mental muscles.
look at an
uncertain
universe
which won't
end - or end
only on
account of
dine. I made a

CINEMAYA 31 1 1996
Right: Light
Apparel
(1995)

Extreme
right:
Before my
Eyes (1988)

40

ften, while looking at Mani unlike its auteurs, chose to speak if in some way Mani Kaul's work f;
Kaul's work, I have been from the fragile margins of did riot reopen the prob!ematic
moved to thinkif the-re is _ cinema to intuit its new possihili--- ontology of cinema to unhingeits
life-for cinema beyond theimag-g;= ties; ecalogues -who opened -anehor in the image of 'home'.
if, indeed, a _cizerna_of'being' question of being' _in turning -_ Mani Kaul's work has never
against that of the 'subject', is quietly away from the highways failed to raise some of the most r
truly. possible; also, if it is of narrative .where the sublect _ unusual and, to my mind,
possible -to devise a new ecologi- never failed to achieve-a certain extremely_important. questions
cal sign that would follow the Jisposition in r_hetoric;.ecologues about cinema....
trail of cinema beyond the who created space through - There is ark inherent difficulty
movement and time of its image oneiric resonance of partial to bind Mani's work within a
to unexpected openings, to the memories and cast irords and context even though one could
site of another, altogether new, things in a durative stillness mention a few invocations here:
image. [low else does ont talk against the violence of causality his teacher and guru, Ritwik
about the ecclogues of cinema who, in hiszory! ; Lave often wondered Ghatak; the classical Indian texts

eiNEMAYA 31/ 1996


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on aesthetics - Dhvanyalok (The tt tomqvith an ,ather (image), in narrative driv.es or cultural cross-
Luminous Sound), the 9th c;reati.ig a symbolic exchange currents - but never as a 'clearing'
century treatise on literature, and t:.hroqgh this conjunction, that the or something leading to a
Sangeet Samay Saar, the 13th century inrotr. evistence. The 'clearing'.
treatise on music; dhrupad, the actoil its o‘‘...,.production Mani Kaul's work is impelled
earliest form of Indian classical riemained unr..,21 except in by an ethic of separation. His
music; Matisse and Bresson. More re167e::- • •'• •!,,mitunt impatience with a particular
definitively, however, one could (marritive) that it helped bring narrative disposition or even with
begin by creating a new binary albout in the fist place. The image the narrative form itself could
where one pitches a sensuous hiadleen, as ifdestinially, possibly be linked to this ethic.
ethic of separation against the ex htm 1.•r• • conventions of His persistent refusal to cast his
formal idea of unity. The idea of subjectivity. bf itself, it could work within the conventions of
enity cast the image within a appo.ar ther,x—t, as only a subjectivity makes it not a little
mimetic mode of continuity and forna• reference, a difficult to write about his work
ia lance. It was only in conjunc ••4 from a:11,J within a dominant mode of
CINLLIATA 31 1996
thinking which pitches its entire cosmology, the incessantly
argument around modern/ waiting women go through the.
posttnodern cultural practices. It &native stillness of being -
WOUjdNt.TILI OS II (jucsil0IIS fragile at first Out gainiiig
regarding the narrative choices fortitude as they gradually asstinif
thrown up by the archetypal and an existence uncomfortably
historical subject have been contiguous but ironically inde-
resolutely put under erasure. It is pendent of the exchange (home
almost impossible to critique his and outside; love and trauma) to
work within the known allegories which they had seemed to have
of nationality. He rigorously been almost fatalistically bound.
pushes the image into a pre- The stillness of look and body,
narrative space) It is perhaps here invoking the paintings of Amrita
that the problematic concerning Shergill and the frescoes from the
the ontology of the cinematic Ajanta caves, grows with reti-
image is reopened. We reach this cence into an ecological sign - a
space to find that the narrative non-transgressive mode of
has been played out already, duration. A gesture deepens in
brought to an end, much like the space, a sense of time surfaces on
ontology which appears only after the periphery. For a while space
the philosophy has ended in a and time become indistinct
way in which we speak of the end within an unusual pacing of the
of philosophy: not as death but as posture. This rhythm of the
a condensation and a possible imaginary, which cannot be
reorganisation. And, even though explained away as a question of
one may feel slightly more stylisation alone, brings the unity
comfortable, in speaking about his of the narrative drive to eventu-
aesthetic choices,' such enumera- ally dissolve without disintegrat-
tions may often turn to be not a ing. (This to my mind, is the
little misleading in their witting/ crucial difference between him
unwitting anxiety to exhume and the other 'stylist' of the 70s,
spectres of formalism. It is Kumar Shahani, who pushes the
obvious that Mani Kaul is not a gesture, through a rhythm of the
formalist. The sites where 'the symbolic, back into the narrative
question of being' resonates here drive.) The continuous mode of
function like blindspots: fluid and space, the suffused elemental
contradictory. The sites of signs, the saturated 'look' all
subjectivity, however, function as contribute to his initial ,ncplora-
perhaps the only formal sites of don of the imaginary in his
Mind of Clay (1 985) eali; work. Time beg!.1-.. to
construction.
appear as the barely perceptible
The-First Films - _ threshold of being:
In his first two films, A Day's-Bread — The classical- Sanskrit poet,
and A Monsoon Day, Mani_Kaul put Kalidasa, who remains a major
the schema of unity into an presences, if not exactly-an
irreversible paradox. Within an influence, _fur both Mani Kaul and
apparently continuous mode- of his teacher Ritwik- Ghatak, -
representation, he developed time developed a tertiary schema to
as an integral of the feminine create the imaginary of both
imaginary - a time without home space (a limen between heaven
or even a reference within the and earth) and time (a limen
symbolic order of exchange. between remembrance and
Surrounded by a symbolic

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pugetfulness) in his celebrated Ghatak envisions woman as a more recently, in Siddhrbwari.
pia-y Abhigyan Shakuntalam (Remem- possibility to open the enclosure Memory, here, is neither the cleft
txring Shakuntala). He rejected a of the symbolic, although she site of melodic excess nor a fixed
ple inscription/dissolution of herself does not enter the domain point of reference; it functions,
111 imaginary within the
7, of the symbolic. She is not a instead, as an oneiric reticence
sembolic order constituted almost subject of history for she is simultaneously closed and open
entirely as a referential range. The always already larger than like the luminous poetic word....
woman is forgotten because she subjectivity. Ghatak's is the Both Ghltak and Mani belong to
fails to-produce the reference cinema of melodic excess where, an in-cligenous oral tradition.
"
'too, space and time Whekati orality hi Ghatak _
- Left: Arising
appear to become - reappears in the form of insomnia
from the
indistinct within the. and melodic-excess, in Mani Kaul,
Surface
feminine conscience. until very recently (ThF Gaze), it IT (1980)
It is as if the entire . e.en_to be-closer toleep and
cosmos appears as a silence. the 'tit in-hibrain', is
mirror to this like a transgression of the self.
feminine imaginary. Unlike Ghatak who lived the life
The wedge between of a nomad, Mani Kaul could be
the two, the turmoil described, with some reticence,
of the lived, is as a monad. They both live the
sutured by a real too metaphor of 'homelessness' and
vast to remember. It in living it become enormously
is through her that different from each other.
the sites of faded I have often wondered if the
memory begin to idea of 'a vital tradition demand-
resonate. The ing sharp differences and violent
which would function as a unflinching affirmation of hope breaks'6 aptly describes the
condensation of narrative and of in his work is actually the coming continuity between Ritwik 43
power. The woman has forgotten together of these resonant sites - Ghatak, Mani Kaul and Kumar
the 'name of the father' much not as references but as memories Shahani. What brings Ritwik
earlier. The woman bears the that are cleft and without articula- Ghatak and his students together
weight/wait of the child in her tion. His is the cinema of grand appears to me to be more of a
womb (a limen between the poetic conscience. His other disciple, filial bond. Mani's relationship,
imaginary and the symbolic): The Kumar Shahani, tries, on the however, escapes this simple,
woman retreats to an as yet other hand, to stage woman though higkly productive,
unformed cosmology, a third between subjectivity and para- narcissism. To extend a Hegelian
space. which could be recovered subjectivity (cf. Tarang/Wages and phrase, though not without some
only after the symbolic forma- Profits, 1984). The sites of degree of trepidation, his is a
tions - the heaven and earth, i.e., memory are, here, transformed relation of 'homage and pa -1-
- have receded and the woman into points of reference in order cide'.7
has become an ecological that the vitality of the new For Ghatak, the real is his
Possibilty. The woman gives birth epistemes of history could be effective field; for Kumar, t is
to the child and is ever rally both interpreted and built upon quite specifically the symbo;ic; for
rece!ved at the threshol3 but only. in its complexity. In this sense, Mani, however, it has beer be
Ir., be included within the Kumar is closer to the modern epic imaginary, always.
symbolic order. form. Mani Kaul, whom Ghatak
In different ways, both Mani had once descibed as someone The Second Phase
Kau] and Ritwik Ghatak eissolve who had a tilt in his brain and In the second phase of his ....ork,
the. binary schema with which who was almost boyishly in love Mani Kaul moved away frou the
narrative subjectivity is 1130St with words,' has repeatedly posed paradox of unity and entere -:. the
often constituted. In different 'the question of being' within far more fluid domain of disners-
ways, both invent their imaginary the imaginary of feminine desire als. The first indication .of this.
zo excavate the ecological sign. in A Days Bread, A Monsoon De.y and, shift had become visible in In Two

CINEMAYA 31/ 1996


A Day's Bread
(1970)

44
Minds itself where a clear disjunc- however, appeared as an absence imaginary, thus, becomes a
tion had appeared within the - as the edge of music, the human functional principle of thought
'classical' unity of time and space. voice outside the narrative, that and moves freely through the
The folktale regarding the two cut through the stillness of this interstices of a number of short
claimants of the bride - the real space. stories and poems by the Marxist
man (a trader who is also a The domain of dispersals is Hindi poet, Muktibodh.
husband) and the virtual man (a itself divided into phases. The The dispersal constituted as
lover who has been a ghost for a first one constitutes thought as an both intertextual and intratextual
long long time) - not only act of decentring and ends with movement in Arising from the Surface
brought into play the ideological Arising from the Surface. The shift, as hinted at the possibility of an
category of 'alienation' as an became visible. in In Two Minds, is acentred cinema. It had, pin-naps,
extension of his earlier explora-_ - even more• clearly from -'the something_to do with his explora-
tion of-the-imaginary but it also -7 question -inflbeini to thinking tion of the musical formswhere
strongly hinted at the_possibility_ about 'the question of being'. the musical note becomes
Of a virtual universe of both Though the ideological categories perpetually homeless withinihe -
narrative and cinema. In a radical such-as 'alienation' and !_objectifi- given musical structure. It had
_ _ departure from the. , catiOn -are_more concretely in - also something to do with the
films, In Two Minds was cait in a evidence here,- these are also, in a idea of range as proposed by
world bereft of time, a world way, subCterted by a surreal, Gilles Deleuze and Felix Guattari
constituted almost exclusively by almost phantasmic: presence in Mille Plateau where the over-
space. Evacuated of time, the which is felt rather than seen. flowing grass emerge as the
space became flat and hauntingly This is also the site where one moral lesson. The idea of depth
pplemicised the objectification of could locate the creative anxiety and centre inheren- in the image
the being and the image. Time, of the author in the film. The of 'root' was definitively cast

CINEMAYA 31 11996
, away. traces of-new cinematic enuncia- rt-turn tohis original 'home' - nature suflust-d .
as an elemental sign - after having been
.Siddheshwari. based on the life of tion could possibly be found on
anointed by the court and married off to the
the legendary exponent of the the hidden footways of the princess. The beloved back horn': receives news
se mi-classical musical form, sound-image.... of his success as a writer and courtier but also

Mani's is a cinema about of his marriage. The symbolic bond of love a :Id
3kutrui, was his first film essay in
creative compassion that bound her to the poet
ASzhich the idea of limen or the possibilities. Casting ahnost the becomes an imaginary of remembrance and
twely perceived threshold - 'the entire film in a maze of virtual forgetfulness much as it did in Abhigyao
question of being' as an acentring reality; casting it in the mirror, as Shakantolum,
Ritwik Ghatak's Kornai Candor (1961) is
- was fully stretched. The 'name it were, giving the 'cut' (or is it similarly woven around-the theme of
of the father', as in Kalidasa, is the_Inne)_ an autonomy_ from a . remembrance and forgetfulness and, in lam
forgotten. Both space and time 'lif before' an into a 'life aftet , builds a lotOf t he narraiivelciion a rc7und an
--actual dramatisation ofKalict'asa's play. - -
3 ppear as an unfolding range like spreading the imaginary almost
4. "An Interview with-RitwikGhatar, by Ravi
the city-of Benaras which, in its infinitely across the domain of Ojha and ludhajit Sarkar in Film Miscellany,
pre-narrativity conceals shadows the-lived, with The Gaze and Idiot, Pune, 1976.
:S. Has perhaps the only-Indian filmmaker to ,
of narratives almost impossible to -he- rhO_V-es MI° anzarea
- of - do so. Others like Aeloor (3opalakrishnan and
remember. Such a cinema is excessivity as immediate and - - the late G Aravincian have addressed themselves
unthinkable without a degree of Jrgent as the sense of overhang- to notions ofinteriority rather than the
blindness which comes with the ing breath that one experiences in question of being.
6. Arun Khopkar, ibid. p. 188.
dissolution of thv. gaze. Dostoevsky's endless monologues 7.1n her translator's preface to Of
i recollect a s. i‘2ening of Mani that seem to exorcise the phan- Granimaio/ogy, Gayatri Chak r.borty Spiro k
Kaul's The Gaze (an adaptation of toms of the symbolic. points out how in explaining the preface's
relationship to the text, Hegel had coin -A tins
Dostoevsky's The Meek One, where
paradoxical image.
a fellow filmmaker, with charac- Notes
8. John Sallis: "Echoes- Philosophy and Non-
I. With self-assured irony, Satyajit Ray declares
tefistic self-assurance, had raised Mani Kaul's cinema to have 'wilfully adopted a
Philosophy After Heidegger" in Hugh)
Silverman ed. Philosophy and Non-Philosophy Since
objections to Mani Kaul's rather very special and very private mode of
Merleau -Peaty, New York, 1988.
'determined obfuscation of expression.' In a statement that reads like
&tills begins his essay with a description of
inverted ridicule, he calls him a phenomenon
sound. He had a genuine problem him wandering alone in the Alps under a clear
in the hatory of Indian cinema for having 'not
in granting sound an existence only done away with most of the cliches of
sky where the transparent intensity of sunlight
is cooled by the mask of fresh mountain air:
45
beyond the double edge of narrative cinema, but with most °fits axioms
"... climbing over a ridge and then down into a
too.' What surprises him, however, is that
information and ambient sensu- high valley. Boulders are strewn here and
Mani too 'has not discarded narrative itself '
ousness and seemed politely there, reminders ofdeafening avalanches: but
Extending the range of his ridicule, he likens
now only the occasional tinkle of a cowbell is
amused at The Gaze's unhelpful his image to that of the 'chic in modern
to be heard. Nothing else ... listening proves
soundt-ack. In effect, it meant advertising photography'. See Satyajit Ray's
so exceptional here because there is almost
"Four and a Quarter" in hisOar Films Their
that cinema had little chance of Films, Calcutta, 1976.
nothing to hear; but also because the valley,
encircled by snow-covered peaks forms a kind
surviving beyond the monologic This response is almost symptomatic of the
. of open enclosure into which one's voice can
interiority and dialogic exchange. objections that were raised against Mani Kaul's
expand and resound. Here monologue and
work initially. It was severely panned for
The question, as it had ap- interiority are unthinkable. Instead, the voice
obvious radical deviation from a known
is drawn out into a space which, rather than
peared to me, then, was whether narrative behaviour and even more for its not
being simply filled by the sound of the voice,
sound, beyond a certain feel of so obvious though equally radical spat io-
claims it and in a sense takes possession of it....
temporal aspiration. In likening Mani's image
oridity could, here and there, Hearing the echo, one then experiences
to that of advertisement photography, what
appear, like silence, as the 'open silence, not as the mere opposite of speech but
Ray shockingly overlooks is its spatici-temporal
as the open space of the voice."
si,,ce of voice' .° Like the sound demeanour. The advertisement image is
ti at returns to you When you first valorised only in its dismemberment. Mani's
image. on the other hand, puts it through a
Teak on landing at any pre-
pre-narrative space (and time) to recover its
p tirative space! A space that has body within the site of ontology.
lain unnoticed and fallow - on tile 2. Arun Khopkar adduces the 'gestures and
postures from the paintings of Amrita Shergill,
ee'ye of a faded memory! Sound,
the sidelong glances andtribbhanga postUres
he -e, would be recovered not from the frescoes of Ajanta and Levi-St rauss's
flit ely as an echo but as a structural analysis of myths' antongst the major

clearing, as something returned influences in Main Kaul's early cinema.


See Arun Khopkat -Works of Mani Kaul and
in an open enclosure. Even as Kumar Shahani" in TM Ramachandran edited
Stills from: The Cloud Door, idiot,

turned the argument in my mind Before M.) Eyes, Mind of Clay


70 Years of Indian Cinema, Bombay, 1985, p I 8°
3 Mani's A Monsoon Day depicts Kalidasa's and Main Kaul by Lalitha Krishna
I began to gradually feel that the

CINEMAYA 31 11996
The Servant's Shirt defies a reduction
of its fictional material to a
synopsis or a syn;:pt_
The text may be termed 'non-
narrative': it does not plot a
structured development of events.
Rather than moving to converge,
the narrative takes events to
elaborate upon them. There is a
significant (and historical)
difference between the two
approaches. The former finds its
origins in the discovery of at the ver .. end. Fight against
'perspective' during the European perspectil e has inspired many a

APPVACH Renaissance, whereas the latter modern p .inter, writer, musician


has been deeply explored in India and filmn,..ker from the turn of
and made the basis of transmis- the 20th rentury. The effort in
sion of musical and philosophical cinema has been naturally limited

To knowledge. since the birth of the pinhole


Convergence (or 'climax' in the camera came about through
conventional narrative) is very perspective itself. Perspective also
much the fruit of a movement provides an illusion of being or
that runs from a foreground to a movhg in a three-dimensional
NATIKAR middle 0,rolm(I t, upto notions of
casting a -toriLoi. .
lines are 'seen' to converge. After narrative, which control the
a series of minor convergences contemporary idiom in the
KI KAMEEZ the major climatic convergence cinematograph and generate
winds up the argument of the certain powerful cliches, includ-
narrative discourse. Prior to the ing those that animate hyper-
• appearance of perspective, the realist conventions.
epics and later the chronicles One of the three experiments I
spread themselves in the manner desire to attempt with this project
MANI KAUL of poetic elAborarion, expansive is to not let the cameraman Ion:,
description, often not reaching through the camera while a shot
the climax in time when viewed is being taken. Doubtless, I have
against rhythms prevailing today. already tried this experiment in
The proposed film The termination of the event my earlier films but to a limited
which, these days, would be built. extent. I believe the moment the
is based on
developing into a climax, did in the eye looks through the camera it
Naukar ki Kameez traditional _texts suddenly appear :appropriates' the spac it is
filming by_ a diehotonious
(The Servant's Sh_li70, organisation that splits the
experience" of that space into a
a novel in Hindi by fork: of being sacred and/or of
being pyofane._ Obviously it saves
Vinod Kvinar Shukla. what it knows as sic-red from an
exposure to what it thinks is
profane. in preparing a shot it
includes c:rtain features of the
space being ;:overed and excludes
all the rest that threvea the order
of what has been included. What
•;.NEt.1AYA 31 1996
has been excluded from the require a looking through the responds to space and movement
composition happensstrain just camera. And how by not looking with certain rhythms that are
outside the fringes of the rectan- through may we invent the much linked to specific feelings, the
t*plar format (of whatever aspect desired approximation to the feeling director may oversee the entire
. Jatio). To my mind, when that in question is something that will shooting on a video monitor
whatever-by-chance does get become clearer as we proceed. hooked to an output from the
:ncluded, more often than not, it in a closed relation between the camera. Instead of composing by
is not an unfortunate accident - it- camera and its material, the visual control and execution, the
is, on the contrary, coincidental camera, absorbed by the narra- director would enfploy a more
to the intuitive strain of-making- tfve, is absent-and SO is-the sound, intrinsic artistic gift of selection:
the very film. The random -- again for reasons of realism, recognise-the living moment —
happening, an inch outside the made .to duplicate the visual when it takes place. What needs
four lines of-the forrna-r, when stresses upon the screen. In an to be determined by The director
--_thought of_-as equally significant encounter with an original Van -_ and-the cameraman i the act-of
- to an elaboration (we couldn't Gogh, for example-, the colour - making the shot: attention being
call thai -3 construction) makes the white presents itself as water in a that aspect of time that deeply
dichotom) between the sacred light that may belong to a colours the emergent feeling in a
and the profane irrelevant. The particular hour and carry a feeling shot. The technical arrangement
secret no longer lies in the particular to what the artist may would enable him to abort
manner a space is covered but in have been seized with in that
the act of covering it. The eye moment of imagination - but it is
while looking through the camera only a certain distance from the
immediately transposes its spatial painting that enables us to sustain
material to a vertical/horizontal/ this vision. For if we approach
diagonal vertex and doing that it the painting and in proximity
walls up the filmed space into examine its surface, we find the
significant closure. And therein ties water to be mere paint ana a
the familiar meaning contained in paint that was perhaps directly 47
the 'old' composition. Should the applied from a tube. The paint as
procedure become more open- thing has been maintained as a
ended as suggested by us here.. thing the artist worked with and
are there possibilities of the yet it opens a new space in being extreme mistakes that may take
whole experience turning water. Here the paint, the way of place if the cameraman is not
chaotic? its application and the effect seem looking through the camera.
. r• looking
camera frees the camera from a tion in regard to the feeling at through the camera naturally
slavish synchronicity with the that moment. In order that the presumes that there will be no
placements and movements of discipline of the cinematograph retakes as understood in the
objects and figures in space. With may reach such strength in conventions till date. A retake
a flexible difference between the expression it is imperative that normally involves a desire to see
operation of camera- and its the shot function both as a thing the planned take perfected to a
material, a basis for an open of celluloid and. a vision tharthe considered notion of how it must
relationship between the two is thing is able to cisclose. I believe finally appear. The retakes
unlocked. Major factors that shape every filmmaker is deeply aware repeatedly strive to essay the
images such as the lens or the of this universal . equation and projected sacred space and any
Position and the range on the winch i. why , • o. iiimmak- eruptt.;11 cm the unpaued (and
zoom lens, the direction of light, ing make the mcst stimulating therefore profane space) disrupts
the angle pointing towards the films. They cont?in both the the very meaning of the enter-
action, the distances that result in matter and the f-rm. It should be prise. When one hears the famous
orchestration of volumes, the possible to ester. 3 that quality to exclamation 'cut it' to stop a take
hP•1...en other kinds of films. in the middle of its filming, most
the lit up areas, the arrangement In practical terms it is proposed likely some random elements are
of colours et cetera, do not that while the cameraman at work.

CINEMAYA 31 i 1 C3t;
Developments such as these are change movements, change stretch which enables a section to
thought of as errors. However, in lighting in ways that are subtle, function as a part and a whole at
what we are proposing, the even minimal, to make a new the same time. These sections
appearance of the random is becoming in/of space and not to need to be rewgnised in the
crucial to certain configurations freeze an eternal recurrence.. 'rushes' without necessarily
one may be aspiring to. Of the The 'cut' as a joint is our third locating or fixing their positions
old order, the great master Robert step. What has been of impor- in different sequences. The joint
Bresson is the lone example of a tance in splicing two shots is the or the cut thus becomes an
filmmaker who totally accepts the particular fashion in which the indescribable moment and not
technique of retake. He is known preceding shot terminates and merely a transit post between
to retake until the actor and the meets the succeeding one at its spaces. The joint/cut thus
very beginning. Whatever be the disables convergence and instead
coloration of the joint, the cut is makes the cinematograph an art
either made to hide or show itself of divergence.
in the service of the narrative. For The method of 'taking' (shoot-
us the joint, like not looking ing) and 'cutting' (editing)
through the camera, must offered here as a radical alterna-
resonate with coincidental tive to established conventions
happenings. If the entire signifi- may lead us to discredit the use of
cance is saturated in that one script, of scripting. It is only
instant, i.e., in the last and the partly true. The script, thought
first frames of the two shots, the out and written in whatever
more important wholes (dura- detail, is only a series of noLitions
tions) which make up the shots for my kind of work. But a
crew 'give up' - by a paradox the are ios‘ :6 an o:-)11 :en. What loes cenetv
retake in his case reaches a point meaning, of open meaning, is to the film a matter and even a
of no control, of what others have first the duration and second its body which is useful for the kind
48 described as the descent of grace position. In that order. The "her of experiments that I feel confi-
upon his shots. For good reason way round, when position is dent of carrying out. A
the master never uses the word given the first place, the editor groundedness should only
'grace' in his writings or inter- can only make an assembly on enhance the nature and quality of
views: what cannot be controlled account of certain preconceptions the experiments; formal engage-
cannot be described. His retakes (of the narrative) and fit in the ments that saw the air with
are not five or ten but forty and required 'o.k.' lengths to make techniques face the danger of
fifty. The exhaustion of the the continuity of the illusion falling irk:, empty gestures. The
actors' will and that of the crew more real. This kind of position- novel and the script of The Servant's
lead to notion; of predetermina- ing kills the free, the unexpected Shirt pursue the enigma of a clerk
tion which suit Bresson's own and the unpremeditated juxtapo- named Santa to a self-mocking
spiritual convictions. With him sition that may arise between the spiritual depth but -.t the same
the moment of realisation is a collision of two wholes. Doubt- time spread the narration on a
'privileged moment', whereas for less. the principle of 'duration' material width that sweeps across
-
us--niovement is hoped to te - ni intb an -
which turns---a-- frigme -the -struggles of a lower niiddle
— — realised between two -moments - overtone of the whole, into a class life. To us, the author Vinod
whenever, whatever! And living movement within the Kumar Stitikla, through his
- —therefore, error, with itS-, is very filmed material-has VI be-sacri- writing, gifts to Santu and to the
mach an aspe-ct of our art. The ficed.- — - =- lorveriniddle class in India 2
new is significant as it becomes. Once you are open to multiple poetics of resilience that he
Not the eternal. The reason to possibilities through elaborations would have in the first place
retake in our c:ase would be to made during the shooting you discovered amongst the people ke
elaborate and not to repeat, to may carve out multiple durations abstracted his novel from. And
create figures. new figures upon a
th:t have multiple ways of that is what is precisely hoped for
moment and not to perfect a
coming together. Duration is a the film and is indeed an impor-
r• C., to change angles,
continuous and unbreakable tant objective we have in mind.

CIWINAYA 31 13915
ithin the Europ-ean tradition, I am espe-
% cially fond of Dostoewsky, Matisse, Bresson
and, barring his last two films, Tarkovsky.
Despite being very different from one another all
ti.,ur are important for me. Once a student told
Yoe that all four had come together in The Gaze;
i.key had become suddenly piesent. Obviously,
iheir pregence in my work is an internal pres-
ence. I think a lot about what it is which could be
- common to all four. I . feel all of thern_we-i-e
wor_king against the idea of perspective and conver-
gence. This was, perhaps, the method of their
work. In Dostoevsky, especially, the manner of
his writing.is such that nowhere do you feel that •
the world is-moving towirds rconvergence. It is:
as if numerous worlds are opening up.:..
Bresson's schocl, like Cezanne's, is
constructivist. Cezanne works upon a painting by
UNDWIDED
building one stroke upon another, inducing thus
a feeling of light so extraordinary that when he
stands next to a hill he can sec blue light. By
construction I mean building one thing on top of
SPACE
another and so on. Roughly this is also the
definition of structure where one thing is placed

on top of another such that if you take away one
tlement it will disrupt the whole (although
defining a structure entirely like this will not be MANI KAUL
appropriate). 49
isresson's work is a typical example of con-
struction. It is also closely linked to his philoso- SPEAKS TO
phy. You would have noticed in his films that a
door opens, a .person comes out, enters one door,
emerges from another, goes down from a third,
OMAN VAJPEYI
and then goes out of the room, goes out of the
house from a fourth, comes back again, opens a
door, enters, opens a chest, takes out something
from the chest, puts it on the table - in other
words, a person within the labyrinth of the
world, in which everyone is caught. Someone - it
could be anyone - breaks loose, like this girl in A
Gentle Creature. Breaking loose here means death.
Dying is essential, though not in all his films.
Nonetheless, like the ass in Balthazar and the girt
in A Gentle Creature, they achieve 'grace'.
Bresson has spoken about filmmaking in his
Notes on Cinematography.... He speaks about juxtapo-
sition. Suppose you are not able to find the space
for a shot. That is, there is a shot that is not able
to express itself. You change its place - take away
from where it is placed and put it three shots
away and it will suddenly become eloquent.... A
shot is born out of closeness to another. There is
a thought to this juxtaposition to which Bresson

CINEMAYA 31 / 199E;
The Gaze FILMOGRAPHY
(1990),
with 1965
Sharnhhavi Shradd
d ud
(app:o q.
Shekhar
Kapur 1966
Yatrik (The Traveller, 20 mit.$)

1970
Uski Roti (A Day's Bread, 110 mins)

1971
Ashad ka Ek Din
(A Monsoon Day, 143 mins..

1973
Duvidha (In Two Minds, 82 Is LIS)

1974
The Nomad Puppeteers (18 mins)

has given great importance. His method of filming is 1977


thus a constructivist method. He uses non-actors Chitrakathi (I 8mi ns)
whom he does not let act. For him acting in cinema
1980
is as absurd as a living horse on stage. •
Satah se Uthata Aadmi (Arising from the
The kind of affinity he has with Cezanne, I think I
Surface, 114 mins)
have the same sort of affinity with Matisse. Matisse
had a great regard for Cezanne ... although it is Arrival (20 mins)

difficult to establish auy relationship, barring very 952


few canvases, between the two.... Matisse drew Dhrupad (72 mins)
50 figures; he did not construct. This is what had
1985
impressed him in the Chinese painting. A figure is
Mati Mantis
born out of a single stroke. There was no need to
(Mind of Clay, 92 mins)
•stand here and construct.... He has himself "Written
that he had become so anarchic that in the end he 1986
even forgot to apply colour. He could not understand The Desert of a Thousond Liars
how to apply colour to painting. In a way, he was 1988
saved by an inner relationship with Cezanne. Befwe My Eyes (23 mins)
I feel that I have one relation with Bresson,
another with Ritwik Ghatak. But there is a wide 1989
difference between the two. It is strange that I have a Siddheshwati (90 mins)
relation with two persons so contrary in disposition. 1990
I am often trying to figure out how one could fuse Nazar (The Gaze, 124 mins)
the two into some sort of harmony. I have absorbed
1 992
bitilh
- — of .them. _They are both-there inside Me. Only-
• Idiot—(18-4 ruins)
_now, in Idiot-, lath begin-fling to feel tat the two
have gradually come through-a door that has beerr _ 1994
shut for years. To bring restiaint and sensuousness The Cloud Door (26 mins) in ths_ series Erotic
together is an extremely difficult task. — Talcs_

199 5
Extract from Abhed Akash (Undivided Space) - a long
Light--Apparel
- (4 mins 30 secs)
conversation with Mani Kaul. Madhya Pradesh Film Develop-
ment Corporation, Bhopal, 1994. in the series Danish Girls Show E,erything

Translated from the original Hindi by Madan Gopal Singh Pre-production


Naukor ki Kameez
(The Servant's Shirt)

CINEMAYA 51 11996

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