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Errors PHY461a
Errors PHY461a
Errors PHY461a
The electron g-factor is one of the most precisely measured values in physics.
• “True value” and estimation of the “true value”: “Throwing dart” analogy
• Example:
Types of errors in measurement: systematic and random
• Example:
Types of errors in measurement: systematic and random
• Example:
Types of errors in measurement:
• Precision vs accuracy:
Estimating errors:
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•Linear scale (e.g. a ruler)
•Need to estimate precision with which measurement can be made
•May be a subjective choice
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• The average value is then related to the averages(might not be exact always) as:
• How is this error related to the errors from the individual measurements?
Estimating errors: from formulas
• Variations of each estimated data points can be related to the variations in the variables as :
(Note: for higher errors, one would have retained higher order terms in the expansion)
• One can then use the formulae for standard deviation to calculate :
Estimating errors using formulas: Error propagation
• For almost all measurements in the lab, the variables will be independent random numbers and
accordingly, the covariance is zero. However, one should think and discuss on conditions of
specific experiments.
Estimating errors using formulas: Error propagation
• Propagation of errors (always express errors as relative errors because they have
units):
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Z A B C
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Z ABC or AB / C etc
Z A B C
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Z ln A Z
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Z exp A A
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Estimating errors:
For an unknown mean, the probability of getting the N data points is then:
Estimating mean of the parent distribution (Maximum likelihood of data
points):
The most probable data set is the one with the maximum probability P.
Maximizing this probability becomes equivalent to minimizing the numerator:
This implies:
What about the error in the estimation of the mean? We can estimate it by propagating the error:
Assuming the uncertainty of all the data points to be equal (since they are drawn from the same parent distribution):
Estimating mean of the parent distribution (Maximum likelihood of data
points):
(This is one version of the central limit theorem. Note: if the initial distribution was not Gaussian,
you would have gotten something else.)
To summarize:
1) From a data set, one can estimate the mean and standard deviation with the usual formulas.
2) However, when estimating error from a formulae, if a particular value is limited by the least count
of the instrument, then the standard practice is to take the least count as the standard deviation of the
parent distribution.
Estimating mean of the parent distribution (Maximum likelihood of data
points):
Word of caution:
1) When limited by least count, a single measurement becomes equivalent to many such repetitions: your
single measurement is then interpreted as the mean, with the least count as the standard deviation.
2) There might be serious limitations on how many data sets you can take. So indefinite increase might not
be a possibility. Systematic and non-statistical errors will keep adding to it.
Max/Min errors(?) vs statistical nature of errors:
Max/Min errors:
Max/Min errors(?) vs statistical nature of errors:
It is usually meaningless to talk about maximum errors.
Errors are only supposed to state a confidence interval, in which,
a randomly chosen measurement will fall with high probability (67%, for standard deviation)
Probability
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of result
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Summary:
• “Data never lies” : every observation or data set is trying to communicate something.
• Lab notebook: note down your observations, strange behaviors, subsidiary data sets and anything
you think is important to understand the measurement or the instrument
• Come prepared: you can then use the time in the lab to delve into the measurement. Finish the lab report
in the lab, so that you can save time for other things.
Laboratory classes will start on Jan 13, 2020 (Monday)at 1400 hrs.
It will run from 14:00 - 18:00 hrs on four days of the week with one group
(A) coming on Mondays and Tuesdays and the other group
(B) coming on Wednesdays and Fridays.
Course outline: Basic Rules
Rule 1: Lab experiments
All students are required to submit lab report with in one week of
completion of experiment. It should contain a brief introduction to the
theory of experiment, principle involved with relevant diagram (s) etc,
methodology of performing the experiment, data in tabular form, error
analysis, precautions, answer to questions given at the end of each
experiment in the lab manual.
Course outline: Basic Rules
Rule 4: If two lab reports go pending for a student, new lab will not be
assigned, unless the pending reports are cleared.
Rule 5: Students are expected to come prepared with the experiment you are
allotted,each day evaluation depends on your preparedness of the
experiment. There will be viva conducted by TAs to check this.
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